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CHEMICAL PROCESSINGJUNE 2013

CONFIRMED MINUTES

CONFIRMED MINUTESJUNE, 3-6, 2013

MARRIOTT RIVE GAUCHE HOTEL & CONFERENCE CENTERPARIS, FRANCE

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

MONDAY, 03-JUN-13 to THURSDAY, 06-JUN-13

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – CLOSED

The Chemical Processing (CP) Task Group was called to order at 9:00 a.m.,03-Jun-13.

Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct presentations were reviewed.

It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting. Neil Cowan, an Auditor, was also in attendance through invitation of the Chairperson

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Alan Gilbert of Cessna Aircraft Company gave his proxy to Aleck Featherston of Bell Helicopter Textron.

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

* Hal Abel Raytheon CoDaniel Amara Israel Aerospace IndustriesLatchezar Anguelov SANFRAN GroupAlexandra AYMARD LatecoereMark Binfield Goodrich (UTAS)

* Malik Boutoba EurocopterYannick Cadoret Thales

* Bob Cashman Parker Aerospace GroupSylvain Cassagne LatecoereAlessio Colombara AgustaWestland S.p.A.

* Terry Curtland Ball Aerospace & Technologies* Karyn Deming Goodrich (UTAS) Vice Chairperson* Peter Droste Airbus* Robert Faticanti Textron Systems* Aleck Featherston Bell Helicopter Textron

Susanne Gebhard Rolls-Royce Deutschland GmbH* Gerald Harvey Triumph Aerostructures - VAD

Daniel Hoeft Premium AEROTEC Gmbh* John Koenig The Boeing Company

Martin Kolinko Eaton Aerospace* Robert Koukol Honeywell Aerospace* Serge Labbe Heroux Devtek Inc.

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* Marc-Andre Lefebvre Heroux Devtek Inc.Eric LeFort SONACA

* Susan Lewis Lockheed Martin CorporationChantal Lewis GKN Aerospace Western Approach

* Mihaela Lupu SAFRAN Group* Nick Magnapera BAE Systems - E & I* Veronique Marcel SAFRAN Group* Angelina Mendoza Goodrich-UTAS* Jerker Nordh GKN Aerospace Sweden AB

Luis Gustavo Pacheco Embraer* Fabrizio Quadrini AgustaWestland* Muralikishnan Ramalingam GE Aviation

Rainer Ricken Premium AEROTEC GmbhCarl Roche Goodrich (UTAS)

* Josefa Rodriguez Baena EADS CASA* Jerry Satchwell Rolls-Royce PLC Chairperson

Mariusz Stanczyk Lockheed Martin* Steve Starr Honeywell Aerospace* Mike Stolze Northrop Grumman Corporation

* Zia UsmaniBAE Systems Air & Information (MAI)

* Shawn Vierthaler Spirit AeroSystems Inc.* Debbie Vogel Triumph Aerostructures - VAD* Miao Wang COMAC* Sergey Yesilevich Hamilton Sundstrand

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

* Mark Airey Robert Stuart Ltd.Mathew Akin True Logic Company, LLC.Tomohiko Ashikaga Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.

* Lee Bruce Robert Stuart Ltd.* Stephane Chaumeil Galion

Neil Cowan Nadcap - AuditorNathalie Crozat Vigier SKF Aerospace FranceDavid Curry Tewkesbury (Diamond Chrome) Plating Co. Ltd.Thomas Desbois SKF Aerospace FranceDaniel French Aerofin Laboratories Ltd.

* Paul French Aerofin Laboratories Ltd.Philippe Germa GillisDave Gray Mitchell Laboratories Inc.Hirohiko Hattori Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.

* Bill Heeter Skills Inc.* Eric Jacklin F.M. Callahan & Son Inc.

Heinrich Kuchlbauer Aerotech Peissenberg GmbH & Co KG* Rosa Martin Superior Plating Co.

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Salete Marques P. Niklaus S AIan McDonald Robert Stuart LTD.Cory McGraw PM Testing Laboratory Inc.

* David Michaud Fountain Plating Inc.Thomas Newton Aircraft X-Ray Laboratories Inc.

* Michael Noettl Magnetic Inspection Laboratory Inc.* Dave Serbousek Olympic Scientific Inc.

Simone Sinclair Darchem Engineering Ltd.Mark Singer Kessington Machine ProductsBernd Spelsberg Otto Fuchs KG

* Vittorio Stana Avcorp Industries Inc.Gary Thompson Darchem Engineering Ltd.Gerald Wahlin AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.Stephen Wright Brazonics Inc.

Staff Present

Nigel CookMichael GrahamWilliam CalvertRobert Nixon

2.0 DELEGATION OVERSIGHT – CLOSED

NOP-003 was reviewed to identify the new delegation oversight requirements.

The delegation trackers of Nigel Cook, Mike Graham, Will Calvert, and Bob Lizewski were reviewed by the Task Group. All continued to meet requirements for maintaining delegation.

The delegation tracker of Bill Dumas was reviewed by Jerry Satchwell, Karyn Deming and John Koenig. He also continued to meet the delegation requirements.

Motion made by Hal Abel and seconded by Susan Lewis to grant Robert Nixon early delegation. Motion Passed.

3.0 NUCAP – CLOSED

Scope exception 85 was reviewed. The scope exception was waiting on release of AC7108/2 Rev C. The checklist has now been released and the scope exception closed.

There was no other NUCAP business

4.0 PROFICIENCY EXAMS – CLOSED

The proficiency exams for conversion coating, painting and plating were reviewed and accepted.

5.0 AUDITOR OVERSIGHT – CLOSED

Nigel Cook reviewed the latest NOP-012 Draft. Concerns were expressed regarding the overall workload for Subscribers, the costs incurred to observe the audits, and the time frame and potential changes in audit scheduling that make planning difficult.

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Susan Lewis, Serge Labbe, Steve Starr, Shawn Vierthaler, Aleck Featherston volunteered to be part of the team to investigate and address these concerns of the time frame, costs and changes in the draft.

ACTION ITEM: Auditor Oversight Sub team to report out on recommendation to resolve concerns of the time frame, costs, and changes in the NOP-012 draft at the October meeting. (Due Date: 21-Oct-13)

6.0 RESOLUTION BY TASK GROUP ISSUES – CLOSED

TG Review and Notification Checkbox: Only check this if you have made a comment you need others to see. The Staff Engineer is getting many emails from people who have just “accepted” an audit and this tends to overfill the inbox.

Audit 151722 NCR #3: AC7108/3 para 5.3.7.b. requires the anodize tank to be fitted with continuous amperage/voltage recording equipment. The anodize tank was fitted with a continuous recorder but it was not being used for this Chromic Acid Anodize job. The process specification did not require continuous recording of the voltage/amperage. The next revision of the AC7108/3 checklist, due to become effective this month, only requires the equipment to be fitted when required by specification. It is not clear when recording is required.

Motion made by John Koeing and seconded by Hal Abel to propose putting clarification of this issue in the Auditor Handbook. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to amend the Audit Handbook to clarify the expectation for AC7108/3 para 5.3.7.b. Continuous recording should only be enforced when required by specification. (Due Date: 21-Oct-13)

Audit 130209 NCR#7 item b: (This item should have been raised in 2009 but there is no record of it in the meeting minutes.)

The NCR: The job was to process to MIL-A-8625 with Hot Water Seal. Per the specification’s paragraph 3.8.1.1, the hot water seal is to be in boiling water. The tank label stated 190-212⁰ F and the actual temperature was 205⁰ F. There was no evidence of boiling.

Supplier requested the NCR be voided based on the following:

Paragraph 4.3.1, from specification MIL-A-8625, Ty 2, Rev. F., states that, at a minimum, there must be ranges for immersion time and temperature for each step in the process. MIL-A-8625 para 3.8.1.1. actually states “.. sealing shall be accomplished in a sealing solution

such as…”, the list of sealing solutions are examples. Corrosion test panels have passed the monthly tests and records show these were processed at temperatures between 200-207⁰ F

The temperature needed for liquid to boil varies according to altitude.

The audit report reviewer closed the NCR with the proviso that it would be reviewed at the next Task Group meeting.

The consensus of the Task Group was that the supplier met specification requirements and the NCR is void. Since the audit is already closed and certified no other action is required.

ITAR/EAR Compliance: Questions and concerns about recording ITAR/EAR were discussed. In Summary:

For Job Tracker Content, is it acceptable to record the part number, specification number, and specification title / description, in the job tracker for an ITAR part?

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In the Job Audit Data field, what data fields must be completed and which ones can be removed?

The Task Group membership felt that they did not have the familiarity to know what does or does not meet ITAR/EAR requirements and hence it should be handled by NMC Standardization Team.

ACTION ITEM: Mike Graham to raise the issue on what data can be recorded in the job audit, and therefore job tracker, for an EC/LR job to NMC Standardization Team. (Due Date: 21-Oct-13)

The list of Process Experts was updated:

Process ExpertsElectroplating Serge Labbe, Hal AbelAnodize John Koenig, Shawn Vierthaler, Bob CashmanConversion Coating Hal Abel, Aleck FeatherstonEtch Jerry Satchwell, Mihaela LupuCleanliness Verification Debbie Vogel, Jim O’SheaChemical Milling Karen Deming, Zia UsmaniPaint/Dry Film Veronique Marcel, Mike StolzeElectroless Plating Jim Chan, Hal AbelTitanium Ramalingam Muralikrishnan, Mihaela LupuBrush Plating Serge Labbe, Hal AbelSurface Prep For Metal Bond Mike Stolze, Aleck FeatherstonElectropolish Jim Chan, Veronique MarcelPassivation Hal Abel, Shawn Vierthaler

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to update the “Process Expert List for use by Audit Reviewers” on eAuditNet > Chemical Processing > Subscriber Tools. (Due Date: 30-Jun-13)

Audit 151126: Identified Nonconformance: AC7108 Rev E Section 4.1.3 is periodic and lot acceptance testing reviewed in the audit in compliance with customer and/or specification requirements, including Nadcap Table 1, see Appendix G?

Finding: There is no evidence that the supplier runs monthly periodic test coupons with the hardware they represent as required by specifications.

Some examples, but not limited to, are:

The supplier is not conforming to AMS 2485 Section 4.3.2. There is no evidence that the supplier runs monthly IGA/EGP periodic tests with the actual hardware they represent as required by AMS 2485 Section 4.3.2.

The supplier is not conforming to AMS-C-26074 Section 4.3.2. There is no evidence that the supplier runs monthly periodic tests for embrittlement testing and corrosion testing with the actual hardware they represent as required by AMS 2485 Section 4.3.2. AMS 2485 Section 4.3.2: states "Separate specimens: When the coated parts are of such form as to be not readily adaptable to a test specified herein ... the test may be made by the use of separate specimens coated concurrently with the parts represented."

The Supplier believes the auditor may not be interpreting the specs correctly as paragraph (4.3.2 in both specs) applies to lot testing and not periodic tests.

The Supplier provided the following position statement regarding this issue.

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This finding does not appear to be a violation of the spec requirements. It is our opinion, that par. 4.3.2 of AMS2485 K applies to lot testing samples not periodic testing. That paragraph would seem to be guidance for the selection and processing of samples to represent a specific “lot”. It states that the separate specimens will be of the same class of alloy and heat treat condition “as the parts represented”. That would go to lot testing. AMS-C-26074 par. 4.3.2 would appear to be the same. The preceding paragraph 4.3.1 defines an inspection “lot”. Logically following, par. 4.3.2 goes to guidance for separate specimens for lot testing. It states: “The separate specimens shall be of a basis material equivalent of that “of the parts represented”.

Motion made by Jerry Satchwell and seconded by Hal Abel to have Supplier take this back to the Customer for interpretation. Motion Passed.

The Task Group agreed that the supplier be requested to obtain clarification from their Customer(s).

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to update the Audit Handbook and Audit Reviewer Guidelines to state that the supplier shall obtain customer clarification on specification interpretation issues and that these clarifications be collated and brought to the next meeting for review. (Due Date: 21-Oct-13).

Audit 152277, NCR 2: AS5528, Rev. A, 3.2.8 (invoked by AS5272, Rev. E, 3.6 for manufactured parts) requires that cure for type 1 be performed at 302 +/- 27 deg F for at least 1 hour.

During job audit #4, dry film lube per AS5272, Rev. E, type I, WO#M019290-001, P/N F54622A3-5XN (Boeing P/N BACN11P3A1), was processed with a cure temperature of dry film lube at 340 +/- 25 deg F per their internal procedure, PS 301, Rev. 28.

Actual cure temperature, 340 deg F, was 11 deg F higher than the upper range of the requirement per AS5528/AS5272.

NOTE: Supplier showed PCD approval for another P/N F54622-4-5XN which was approved by Boeing for dry film lube to PS 323, using same AS 5272, type I dry film lube and processed at same cure temperature of 340 +/- 25 deg F, but of a thinner consistency and two coats to be applied. The job in question, P/N F54622A3-5XN did not have a PCD associated with the part number, nor were there any approved deviations for cure temperature.

Supplier is requesting the NCR be void: Invalid per AS5528 section 1. AS5272 is for manufacture of lube and the temperatures listed are not hard requirements the specification states lube must be capable of being baked at the listed temps. AS5272 calls out AS5528 for application of lube. AS5528 states not required for threaded parts therefore this finding is invalid.

Motion made by John Koenig and seconded by Hal Abel that this stand as a NCR. Motion Passed.

The Task Group agreed that the NCR be upheld.

Complaint: Mike Graham received a complaint from a manufacturer. This manufacturer making the complaint did not want their name to be disclosed to the Task Group, and explicitly, does not authorize any action on their behalf. The Chairperson felt the Task Group Primes should be made aware of the complaint. The manufacturer had received plated parts with visual failure of adhesion, e.g. blistering, and felt that the response received from the processor to their complaint was inadequate.

The Task Group reviewed the letter of complaint, with the names blacked out, and agreed that no further action was required.

SE Review Guidelines: The Task Group reviewed the revised Audit Review Guidelines with formatting amendments

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Motion made by Susan Lewis and Seconded by Hal Abel to propose to accept the revised Audit Review Guidelines. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to update the Audit Review Guidelines to include a tabular format for Section 9, and post them on eAuditNet: Resources > Documents > Public Documents > Chemical Processing > Subscriber Tools. (Due Date: 21-Oct-13)

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS

Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct presentations were reviewed.

1.1 Review and Accept Minutes from the Last Meeting.

The minutes of the last meeting were amended to correctly identify the UVM and ALT UVM members for COMAC.

Hal Abel proposed to accept the amended Minutes to the last Meeting. Zia Usmani All in favor

1.2 Review Agenda

1.3 Review and Update RAIL

7.0 NEW VOTING MEMBER APPROVAL & COMPLIANCE WITH VOTING REQUIREMENTS – OPEN

Requests to become voting members were received from:

Title

First Name Surname Company Voting Member Type

Meetings Attended

Mr. Ken Shouse Lord Corporation ALT/SVM Oct 12 Feb 13Mr. Fabrizio Quadrini AgustaWestland UVM Feb 13 Jun 13Mr. Mark Airey Robert Stuart Ltd. ALT/SVM Oct 12 Jun 13Note: You must be registered on eAuditNet before you can be made a Voting Member.

Nigel Cook reviewed the changes to NOP-001.

Richard Shain changed from Hawker Beechcraft to General Dynamics Corp (Gulfstream) as a Voting Member.

The above voting members were confirmed by the Task Group Chair

Compliance with voting requirements of voting members was reviewed. There were a couple of entries in the compliance spreadsheet that required review/correction.

The Pratt and Whitney representative has missed 3 consecutive meetings.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook and Jerry Satchwell to review and update the compliance to voting requirements spreadsheet and address members who have not met requirements. (Due Date: 30-Jun-13)

8.0 NEW SUPPLIER ORIENTATION – OPEN

Mike Noettl gave his presentation on new supplier orientation.

9.0 TRANSLATION OF CHECKLISTS – OPEN

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The French translation of the Chemical Processing Auditor Handbook (Rev Feb 2013) was approved by Veronique Marcel, Malik Boutoba and Stephane Chaumeil.

The Chemical Process Audit Handbooks, both English and French versions, are posted on eAuditNet. Resources > Documents > Public Documents > Chemical Processing > Audit Information.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to post the French translation of the February 2013 Audit Handbook to eAuditNet: Resources > Documents > Public Documents > Chemical Processing > Audit Information. (Due Date: 30-Jun-13)

AC7108 Rev F, AC7108/1 Rev B and AC7108/2 Rev B have all been translated and are available on eAuditNet. Resources>Documents>Audit Checklists>Translated Checklists>Chemical Processing.

10.0 NMC METRICS, REGIONAL AUDITOR CAPACITY – OPEN

Nigel Cook reviewed the Task Group Metrics.

Auditor Capacity – Although capacity in Asia is below the goal due to the increasing number of ITAR audits the actual requirement for restricted Asian auditors is declining. There is need to identify if there are any unrestricted auditors residing in the Asian region.

On Time Accreditations – Some reaccreditation audits fail to be accredited prior to the previous accreditation expiring. The present guidance used by staff engineers is that extensions to accreditation are not granted if the supplier has a significant number of delinquency days.

Motion made by Jerry Whalin and seconded by Bill Heeter to allow the Staff Engineer to issue an extension when there is good reason to do so for up to 3 months and to document the reason in the audit’s notes section. Motion Passed..

Supplier Merit – The Task Group metric for merit is still amber and has been running at 78-79% for two years – green requires 80%.

Merit data for the last 12 months to be analyzed to identify the reasons why suppliers are not achieving merit.

ACTION ITEM: Will Calvert to obtain and analyze the last 12 months of chemical process audits to determine why suppliers who are eligible for merit are not obtaining it. (Due Date: 21-Oct-13)

Data on suppliers’ 3rd audits to be obtained to determine what percentage achieved merit and reasons for not achieving it.

ACTION ITEM: Will Calvert to obtain the last 24 months of audit data for suppliers who had their 3rd Nadcap audit and to analyses the percentage who did not achieve merit and the reasons for it not being achieved. (Due Date: 21-Oct-13)

11.0 CHEMICAL PROCESS AUDIT HANDBOOK APPROVAL

Task Group could not approve Handbook changes because it was submitted 1 week before the meeting when the minimum is 2 weeks. There is only one change regarding clarification of requirements for both Taber Wear test pieces to meet acceptance requirements and this was sent out as an auditor advisory. This approval is to become part of the review for the next meeting in October. Do we need an Action Item?

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12.0 2013 AUDITOR CONFERENCE

The auditor conference draft agenda and the status of presentations to date were reviewed. The presentations will be posted on eAuditNet for members to review and provide feedback.

ACTION ITEM: Will Calvert to have the presentations posted in eAuditNet for review and send out a notice when this has been completed. (Due Date: 12-Jul-13)

13.0 REVIEW OF AUDITOR ADVISORIES – OPEN

The open auditor advisories issued since the last meeting were reviewed.

14.0 TECHNICAL DATA SHEETS – OPEN

Mike Stolze gave an update on the sub-team’s progress on Technical Data Sheet (TDS) requirements. The team has chosen to require the supplier to define the process parameters through a process control document (PCD). When these parameters are compliant with the TDS, no further validation of parameters is mandatory via AC7108. Where the defined PCD parameters are not compliant with the TDS, the sub-team is still trying to reach consensus on minimum validation requirements for inclusion in AC7108.

Motion made by Mike Noettl and seconded by Stephane Chaumeil to accept this methodology and move forward.

Motion Passed.

15.0 CHECKLIST STRATEGIC PLAN – OPEN

Jerry Satchwell gave an update on the status of the checklist strategic plan. All but 2 checklists have been reviewed and posted out for response. The /2 checklist is being postponed due to the on-going efforts with NDT to modify this checklist during the development of a common auditing method between the commodities. The responses received to date were reviewed and the next actions identified. It was requested that the feedback forms be included in the ballot with the checklists. Checklists to be balloted individually as an affirmation ballot to the Task Group, to confirm changes are editorial only, and then en block to the NMC

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to ensure the compiled checklist feedback forms are included with each checklist when balloted to the Task Group. (Due Date: TBA)

Mike Stolze gave a presentation on the work done by the sub-team on the effect of the new strategy on audit duration. There were some theoretical conditions where the duration of an audit may be increased but the data analysis done by the sub-team has shown that audits are more likely to stay the same length or reduce in length. The Task group agreed to accept the proposed guidelines for audit duration and implement them at the same time that the checklists are implemented.

Motion made by Serge Labbe and seconded by Steve Star to accept the proposed guidelines as written. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to amend the s-frm-16, audit grading criteria, when the new checklists are implemented. (Due Date: TBD)

16.0 INTERNATIONAL PROCESS SPECIFICATIONS/STANDARDS – OPEN

The amended preliminary questionnaire for chemical processing, s-frm-09, was shown and reviewed. This will be made active as part of the implementation of AC7108/2 Rev C.

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ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to update the preliminary questionnaire, s-frm-09, to include the international specifications when AC7108/2 Rev C is rolled out. (Due Date: 31-Jul-13)

17.0 SMART CHECKLISTS – OPEN

Louise Stefanakis from the eAuditNet team gave a presentation on how the SMART checklist system would work. The SMART checklist is an electronic version of the modified scope audit protocol used by the Chemical Processing Task Group. Implementation of SMART checklists should take place in October.

An issue was raised regarding the Word and PDF versions of the checklists and grayed out modified scope questions. A number of auditors typically use a paper version for conducting the audit and then transfer the data to the electronic version. Louis advised that the printable version of the electronic checklist, available once the audit checklists have been assigned, will have the modified scope questions grayed out if it is a modified scope audit.

The grayed out questions will not be considered in the completeness check

18.0 NDT AC7108/2 PROPOSAL – OPEN

An updated presentation, given by the NDT/CP sub-team to the Nadcap Management Council, was reviewed.

The proposal has deviated from the original presentation given to the Task Group in two significant areas:

The original proposal was that the supplier could choose to have the etch checklists included within either their NDT audit or CP audit subject to the 5 day audit rule. The present proposal requires the Etch audit to be a CP audit much in the way it is done now.

The original proposal was that each commodity would define the number of job audits required. The present proposal requires a minimum of three job audits with at least one for each etch method (Pre-Penetrant Etch, Nital/Temper Etch, Macro Etch) in the scope.

At the NMC meeting, the Task Groups were asked to address these issues as part of the implementation.

During discussion two other items should be considered by the sub-team when implementing the new etch requirements.

Can paper job audits and/or test pieces be used to complete required job audits?

How to handle the transition of accreditation from CP to NDT based on suppliers that have present accreditation in both commodities but expiration dates are significantly different. For instance, the present CP accreditation includes etch and expires in April but their NDT accreditation expires in October.

CP Sub team Members: Karyn Deming, Mike Noettl, Steve Starr, Serge Labbe, Miheala Lupu

19.0 RECORDING OF PROCESS PARAMETERS

Zia Usmani made a proposal on the recommended reduction in the requirement of recording certain Operator Controlled Variables (OCV). These recommendations were based on objective criteria that allowed evaluation of each OCV. This approach found a significant number of OCV that would not need to be recorded.

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Concern about this reduction was voiced as some of the Primes rely on these OCV to better access compliance during paper audits.

Motion made by Mike Stolze and seconded by John Koenig to reject the proposal on whole. Sixteen (16) for and four (4) opposed. Motion Passed.

Motion made by Jerry Wahlin and seconded by Mike Noettl that this recommendation be put on hold until the new checklist is in place, and then to evaluate each OCV one at a time.Motion Passed.

20.0 REACH (Boeing, Raytheon, Robert Stuart, BAe Systems) REACH presentations and updates from suppliers and primes.)

Zia Usmani made a presentation on REACH (Registration, Evaluation, Authorization and Restriction of Chemical substances). He stated that some companies are forming collaborations to assist with compliance. With this in mind, it was asked if the Chemical Processing Task Group should be used as a repository of information. A concern was voiced that this may be outside of the scope on Nadcap.

The Task Group voted to keep this as part of the agenda.

ACTION ITEM: Stephane Chaumeil to make a presentation at the next meeting. (Due Date: 21-Oct-2013)

21.0 NMC Summary Report (Compile the NMC Summary Report.)

The Task Group compiled the NMC Summary Report.

22.0 REPORT OUTS: NMC (MICHAUD), SSC (JACKLIN), P&O/CLOSED, STEERING (LEWIS), CP-SAT (CUMMINGS) – OPEN

Reports outs were received on NMC, SSC, P&O, Closed Meeting, Steering and CP-SAT.

NMC - Thanks were given to Dave Michaud for his participation and NMC representation and he was wished well in his endeavors with the newly formed Measurement and Inspection commodity. A request was made for nominations to replace Dave in representing the NMC for CP. All nominations request should be sent to Nigel Cook.

Planning & Ops - REACH to be added to the P&O as a risk.

Bill Heeter raised a concern regarding what is a “requirement” and asked if AC7108 Rev F could be updated (editorial) to point to the definition of a “requirement”.

Motion made by Bill Heeter and seconded by John Koenig to form a Sub team to research and present a CP definition of “Requirement”. Eleven (11) for and seven (7) opposed. Motion Passed.

Sub-team: John Koenig, Zia Usmani, Bill Heeter, Lee Bruce, Dave Serbousek and Robert Nixon

ACTION ITEM: Sub-Team to research and present a CP definition of “Requirement”. (Due Date: 21-Oct-2013)

Steering - The Steering Committee requested that they have the ability to close action items on the RAIL.

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Motion made by Jerry Wahlin and seconded by Bill Heeter that the Steering Committee not be allowed to close action item. Motion Passed.

23.0 ANY OTHER BUSINESS – OPEN

NTGOP-001 CP – NTGOP-001 CP latest draft was reviewed and it was agreed to submit it to Task Group ballot.

AC7108 Section 5.4 – Mike Brandt from Alcoa gave a presentation on issues regarding part drying and conformance to AC7108. The amendment to section 5.4 that was previously implemented is too cumbersome to comply with due to the large number of customers. A sub-team was formed and asked to review and return to the October meeting with another proposal. Proposal is to include detailed definitions of Thermal Treatments.

Sub team Members: Laura Moyer, Nigel Cook, Dave Serbousek, Murali, Karyn Deming, Bob Faticanti.

ACTION ITEM: Sub-Team to liaise with HT and Composites and look at our questions to determine the appropriate questions. (Due Date: 21-Oct-2013)

Motion made by Serge Labbe and seconded by John Koenig that the checklist be investigated for modification and an Auditor Advisory be issued to address this until the checklist can be modified. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to talk to Jerry Aston regarding previous HT Auditor Advisories that create clarification or exception of Checklist errors. (Due Date: 30-Jun-2013)

Christian Buck has been observing the Chemical Process Task Group meetings in February and June for compliance to NOP-001, NOP-002 and NTGOP-001. There were no non-conformances but he did identify an observation (opportunity for improvement) regarding contribution of Subscriber members to Task Group discussions and sub-team activities.

24.0 DEVELOP AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 2013 TASK GROUP MEETING – OPEN

- Review Open Action Items.- John Koenig, Jerry Wahlin, and Stephane Chaumeil to do a REACH update. - Robert and Mike Stolze to review NOP-012 and be ready to discuss.- Feedback on Auditor Conference - Smart Checklist Update- Voting in a new NMC representative- Presentations to be posted by end of July for review.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to invite Dave Johnson to give the presentation on the 250 tape. (31-Jul-2013)

Jerry Satchwell requested that any suggestions to be added to the agenda be forwarded to Nigel Cook.

Minutes Prepared by: Nigel Cook [email protected] /Joyce Benkart [email protected] / Will Calvert [email protected].

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Is procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select one)

YES* NO

*If yes, the following information is required:

Documents requiring revision:

Who is responsible: Due date:

NTGOP-001 App CP Nigel Cook 21-OCT-13

Audit Reviewer Guidelines

Nigel Cook 21-OCT-13

Audit Handbook Nigel Cook 21-OCT-13

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