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Page 1: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Professional Registration

Who, why and how?

PE

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Page 2: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

What is a licensed engineer?

The Professional Engineering license grants you the legal ability to perform engineering services for the public, take responsibility for your designs, reports, plans, professional opinions, etc., and allows you to place your state-authorized engineering “seal” on your engineering work.

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Page 3: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Who Must be Licensed?

Persons performing engineering services for the publicPersons supervising design and construction of public worksPersons using the term “Engineer” or “Professional Engineer”Anyone who violates these parameters is subject to legal penalties

http://www.tbpe.state.tx.us/disciplinary_all.htm

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Page 4: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

What is a Licensed Engineer?

Under the Texas Engineering Practice Act, only duly

licensed persons may legally perform, or offer to perform

engineering services for the public.

Having an engineering license means more than just

meeting a State’s minimum requirements. It means you

have accepted both the technical and the ethical obligations

of the engineering profession.

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Page 5: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Licensing: the product of collaboration between Industry, Government & Education

EDUCATION GOVERNMENT

INDUSTRY

Professional Associations

ABET NCEES

State Licensing BoardsProgram Accreditation

ABET - Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology

NCEES - National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying

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Page 6: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Background and History

School explosion, New London, Texas (March 18th, 1937)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_London_School_explosion

Engineering Registration Act (May 28th, 1937)

http://www.tbpe.state.tx.us/lic.htm

Texas Engineering Practice Act (August 30,1965)

http://www.tbpe.state.tx.us/downloads/law_rules306.pdf

Modified in 2006

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Page 7: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Engineering Practice Act

Engineers shall :

Protect the public

Be objective and truthful

Be competent

Maintain the confidentiality of clients

Act in a responsible manner

Maintain competency through continuing education

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Page 8: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Engineering Practice Act

Establishes:

That the privilege of practicing engineering be entrusted only to those persons duly licensed

Ethical guidelines and rules of conduct

Texas Board of Professional Engineers

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Page 9: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

State Board of Professional Engineers

They are authorized to license those individuals qualified to practice engineering

They regulate the practice of engineering in Texas

They make and enforce rules dealing with licensing, compliance and enforcement, and standards of conduct and ethics

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Page 10: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Licensing Board

Nine members appointed by Governor

Six licensed professional engineers

Three from the general public

Staggered six year terms

Currently meets four times per year

Only compensation is per diem and transportation expenses

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Page 11: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Requirements for Licensing

1. Formal Education

2. Practical Experience

3. F.E. and P.E. Examinations

4. Continuing Education

http://www.tbpe.state.tx.us/lic_basic.htm11

Page 12: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Idealized Engineering Licensure Model

ABET Accredited

Engineering Bachelor

of Science Degree

[or substantially

equivalent engineering

degree]

FE Exam

Fail

Engineer-in

Training

Pass 4 Years

of

Acceptable

Experience*

Fail

Pass No

“Licensed

Professional

Engineer”

PE Exam

Yes

Inactive

Mandatory

Continuing

ProfessionalCompetency

* Note: The number of years of acceptable

experience depend on the academic career

and highest earned degree.

Fail, can retake

Pass, good forever

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Page 13: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

RequirementsType of

Education

Experience

Requirement

Examination

Requirement

Reference Requirement

Accredited

engineering

degree (usually

bachelor's)

4 years

Must pass FE, PE

and ethics exams;

may be eligible for

waiver of FE exam

with additional

experience.

Three (3) references are required, all must be

currently licensed P.E.’s. If requesting exam

waiver, then five (5) references are required

from currently licensed P.E.’s. The P.E.

references not licensed in Texas must

provide a copy of their current pocket card

to verify licensure.

Accredited

engineering

degree and MS

or PhD in

engineering

3 years for MS

or PhD only; 2

years for MS

and PhD

Must pass FE, PE

and ethics exams;

may be eligible for

waiver of FE exam

with additional

experience.

Three (3) references are required, all must be

currently licensed P.E.’s. If requesting exam

waiver, then five (5) references are required

from currently licensed P.E.’s. The P.E.

references not licensed in Texas must

provide a copy of their current pocket card

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Page 14: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Key Elements of Experience

Must demonstrate use of engineering knowledge, education, and judgment

Must be progressive and of increasing standard of quality and responsibility

Should be obtained while working under supervision of a licensed engineer

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Page 15: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Acceptable Experience

Design experience - selection and use of recognized engineering principles and methodologies

Analysis experience - use of mathematical modeling and acceptable data collection techniques

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Page 16: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

References

At least 3 references

References must be current PE’s with personal knowledge of the applicant’s engineering experience

They verify your experience

They attest to your character, reputation, and general suitability to hold a license

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Page 17: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

All applicants for licensure must pass three examinations

Fundamentals of Engineering (FE)

Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE)

Texas Ethics of Engineering

Examinations

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Page 18: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

More information on registration

http://engineeringregistration.tamu.edu

http://www.tbpe.state.tx.us/lic.htm

http://www.ncees.org/

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Page 19: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

FE Exam at TAMU

Offered in fall and spring

Review sessions - math, science, engineering science, and civil engineering found athttp://engineeringregistration.tamu.edu

TAMU CVEN pass rate – 85% to 98%

Exam coverage -http://www.ncees.org/exams/fundamentals/

Closed book

Calculator must come from approved list

Reference manual and pencils are supplied

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Page 20: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

FE Exam (Fundamentals)Morning Session – 4 hours – 180 multiple choice

Chemistry ( 9%)

Computers ( 7%)

Electricity and Magnetism ( 9%)

Engineering Economics ( 8%)

Ethics ( 7%)

Fluid Mechanics ( 7%)

Materials Properties ( 7%)

Mathematics (15%)

Mechanics (Statics & Dynamics) (10%)

Probability and Statistics ( 7%)

Strength of Materials ( 7%)

Thermodynamics ( 7%)

See http://ncees.org/Exams/FE_exam.php, Download specs for details

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Page 21: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

FE Exam (Fundamentals)

Afternoon Session – CVEN Discipline Specific– Construction Management (10%)

– Environmental Engineering (12%)

– Hydraulics & Hydrologic Systems (12%)

– Materials (8%)

– Soil Mechanics & Foundations (15%)

– Structural Analysis (10%)

– Structural Design (10%)

– Surveying (11%)

– Transportation (12%)

– You now choose your afternoon module when you register

– See http://ncees.org/Exams/FE_exam.php, Download specs, for

details

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Page 22: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

FE Exam (Fundamentals)

Afternoon Session – “Other”

– Advanced mathematics (10%)

– Engineering probability and statistics ( 9%)

– Biology ( 5%)

– Engineering economics (10%)

– Application of Engineering Mechanics (13%)

– Engineering Materials (11%)

– Fluids (15%)

– Electricity and Magnetism (12%)

– Thermodynamics and heat transfer (15%)

– You now choose your afternoon module when you register

– See http://ncees.org/Exams/FE_exam.php, Download

specs for details22

Page 23: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

FE Exam (Fundamentals)

Which exam should I take?

NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.”

Since there is a Civil version, that is probably what you should take, rather than Other.

It is rumored that some states are not giving, or may not give, reciprocity for Civil Engineering unless you take the Civil version.

Pass rates are pretty much the same.

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Page 24: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Principles and Practice Exam

• Morning Session (“Breadth”: same for all civil

engineers) with forty multiple choice questions

• Afternoon Session (select “Depth” area) with

forty multiple-choice questions

http://www.ncees.org/Exams/PE_exam.php

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Page 26: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Ethics of Engineering Exam

Open book exam over the law and rules of the Texas Engineering Practice Act

Assures applicant is familiar with state law and board rules

Gives applicant experience in applying the law and board rules

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Page 27: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Continuing Professional Competency

Requires engineers to continue their engineering training and educationMust obtain 15 Professional Development Hours (Continuing Education) each year as a requirement for license renewal. Course/Activity - Any qualifying course or activity with the clear purpose and objective of maintaining, improving, or expanding the skills and knowledge relevant to the license holder's field of practice. One hour must deal with engineering ethics

http://engineeringregistration.tamu.edu/ContinuingEducation/index.htm

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Page 28: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Why Should I Become Licensed?

Job requirements -- Only a licensed engineer

may prepare, sign and seal, and submit engineering plans and drawings to a public authority for approval, or seal engineering work for public and private clients.

Aids in promotion -- sets you apart from others.

Employers look to licensure in evaluating the advancement potential of their employees.

Prestige -- Licensed engineers achieve an enhanced

status in the eyes of the public

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Page 29: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Why Should I Become Licensed?

Technical Responsibility: Your education and experience will prepare you for technical engineering work. Your license legally allows you to take personal responsibility for the engineering work that you perform for

public and private clients.

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Page 30: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Why Should I Become Licensed?

Public Recognition: As a licensed engineer you achieve an enhanced status in the eyes of the public, which equates you with professionals licensed in other fields such as physicians, attorneys, etc.

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Page 31: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Why Should I Become Licensed?

Private Practice:

If you want to pursue a career as a consulting engineer, or own your own engineering firm, or be in responsible charge of engineering work for the public, you must be licensed.

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Page 32: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Why Should I Become Licensed?

Public Practice:

Many federal, state, and municipal agencies require that certain responsible engineering positions, particularly those considered “higher level,” be filled only by licensed engineers.

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Page 33: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Why Should I Become Licensed?

Changing Workplace: Today’s workplace is rapidly changing: restructuring, downsizing, privatization, and outsourcing (where firms terminate employees and then hire them back as consultants) are common. You should be prepared to face a possible transition into a consulting or contract relationship with a former employer in the event of corporate outsourcing. Such a relationship requires an engineering license.

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Page 34: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Why Should I Become Licensed?

Ethical Responsibility: Licensure also aids you and the profession in the important area of ethics. While technical societies such as ASCE and others have codes of ethics for guidance, none have “legal” standing in the practice of engineering.

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Why Should I Become Licensed?

On the other hand, state licensing boards have standards of ethical conduct that are legally binding. The recognition and enforcement of these standards gives greater definition to our profession, and significantly enhances the image of licensed civil engineers.

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What are my chances of passing the FE Exam?A&M vs. National Pass Rate

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When should I take the exam?

If you take it one semester before you graduate, you have learned less of the material that will be on the exam, but will have forgotten less of your math. You also have a second chance to take it again while here. You can take it as many times as it takes, and it never “dies” with age after you pass it once.

If you take it your last semester, you will have learned more of the material that will be on the exam, but will have forgotten more of your basics. If you don’t pass it your last semester, you have to take it in Austin (or someplace else).

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What you should start doing now

Go to http://engineeringregistration.tamu.edu

Look over those materials, including what is on the exam.

Click on “Reference Manual” and print one out (free).

Look over the materials covered and see how they relate to the classes you are now taking. Chemistry, math, projectile motion, statics, strength of materials, steel design, etc.

Fully understand the difference in notation used between your text and that used in the reference manual.

Try and work your homework problems using the reference manual.

Make copies of any of your homework problems which correspond to different equations in the reference manual and keep copies of them in a tabbed notebook.

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Example: Math

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Example: Engineering Economics

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Page 41: Who, why and how? · FE Exam (Fundamentals) Which exam should I take? NCEES says “you will be asked to select the module that best corresponds to your undergraduate degree.” Since

Example: Statics

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Example: Steel Design

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What should I do once I go to work?

Keep a daily log of your activities.

State your work in terms of the engineering involved – inspection, design, analysis, …

Work with a registered professional engineer in the company.

List that person in your daily log.

When he quits, get with another one.

Develop engineering references who are willing to testify to your qualifications, both in and out of house.

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Where to get information

http://engineeringregistration.tamu.edu

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