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This article was downloaded by: [UNIVERSITY OF ADELAIDE LIBRARIES]On: 13 November 2014, At: 10:24Publisher: RoutledgeInforma Ltd Registered in England and Wales Registered Number: 1072954Registered office: Mortimer House, 37-41 Mortimer Street, London W1T 3JH, UK

Educational StudiesPublication details, including instructions for authors andsubscription information:http://www.tandfonline.com/loi/ceds20

Roles and Responsibilities in InitialTeacher Training‐‐student viewsE. Anne Williams aa School of Education , University of Birmingham ,Edgbaston, Birmingham, B15 2TT, UKPublished online: 30 Jul 2010.

To cite this article: E. Anne Williams (1994) Roles and Responsibilities in Initial TeacherTraining‐‐student views, Educational Studies, 20:2, 167-180, DOI: 10.1080/0305569940200202

To link to this article: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/0305569940200202

PLEASE SCROLL DOWN FOR ARTICLE

Taylor & Francis makes every effort to ensure the accuracy of all the information(the “Content”) contained in the publications on our platform. However, Taylor& Francis, our agents, and our licensors make no representations or warrantieswhatsoever as to the accuracy, completeness, or suitability for any purpose of theContent. Any opinions and views expressed in this publication are the opinions andviews of the authors, and are not the views of or endorsed by Taylor & Francis. Theaccuracy of the Content should not be relied upon and should be independentlyverified with primary sources of information. Taylor and Francis shall not be liablefor any losses, actions, claims, proceedings, demands, costs, expenses, damages,and other liabilities whatsoever or howsoever caused arising directly or indirectly inconnection with, in relation to or arising out of the use of the Content.

This article may be used for research, teaching, and private study purposes. Anysubstantial or systematic reproduction, redistribution, reselling, loan, sub-licensing,systematic supply, or distribution in any form to anyone is expressly forbidden.Terms & Conditions of access and use can be found at http://www.tandfonline.com/page/terms-and-conditions

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Roles and Responsibilities inInitial Teacher Training--studentviewsE. ANNE WILLIAMSSchool of Education, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham, B152TT, UK

SUMMARY Students from four different institutions were interviewed at the end of theirsecondary postgraduate certificate in education (PGCE) year to obtain their views aboutvarious aspects of their training including their perceptions of the support given to them duringschool placements. Their responses are analysed in the context of changing requirements forcourses of initial teacher training and of an increase in the variety of training routes available.These students received support of variable quality from both higher education tutors and schoolteachers. At best both teachers and tutors were valued for the complementary roles which theywere able to play. While there appears to be scope for some interchangeability of role, otheraspects would not be easily assumed by the other partner. Students valued school-based workenormously but provided little evidence of support for wholly school-based courses. Implicationsof these findings are discussed for future initial teacher training provision including issues ofquality control.

Introduction

The immediate future of secondary initial teacher training is yet to be finallydecided although the Secretary of State has stated his intention to continue itsreform (Department for Education [DFE], 1993). Higher education-led part-nership, or joint venture schemes are to continue and an increase in school-ledcourses is expected. The balance between these two forms of provision is not yetknown. An increase in secondary initial teacher training numbers from 14,450in 1993/94 to 17,935 in 1996/97 (HEFCE, 1993) means that a significantincrease in school-led courses from the modest start of 250 in 1993/94 wouldstill leave large numbers within higher education-led courses. Issues which affectboth kinds of provision thus need continued informed consideration. This paperwill contribute to the debate through an analysis of the views of a small sampleof postgraduate certificate in education (PGCE) students, interviewed at theend of their initial training course.

Much of the current debate in teacher education has focused upon the rolesand relative responsibilities of the school and the higher education institution or

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other agency. At one extreme, political activists (O'Hear, 1988) and pressuregroups such as the Centre for Policy Studies (Lawlor, 1990) see no role at allfor higher education. Others (Hargreaves, 1989; Barber, 1993) see a role forhigher education, but not one which necessarily involves its staff directly inteaching or tutoring the student teacher. The current criteria (DFE, 1992)speak of partnerships between higher education institutions and schools and atthe same time of schools playing a leading role. The introduction of school-ledtraining from September 1993 opens up the possibility of training taking placewith no higher education involvement. Towards the other end of the contin-uum, genuine partnerships have been forged, such as those between schools andthe university within the Oxford internship scheme, albeit at a cost, much ofwhich has, in the past, been borne by the local education authority (LEA) ratherthan by the university. Immediate responses to the requirements of Circular9/92 (DFE, 1992) range from demands from schools for a lion's share of theresource cake in return for doing the majority of the training to far more modestagreements in which higher education continues to make a major contributionto teaching and retains a significant amount of the available financial resource.It seems clear that there will be a great deal of further negotiation between thesetwo partners.

An equally important partner, particularly in a system which claims to givesignificance to the wishes of the client, is the student, whose views have not beencanvassed widely. Such evidence that is available (Furlong, 1990; Williams etal., 1992; Booth, 1993) suggests that while students wish to spend a significantpart of their training in school, they do see institution-based work as importantand they also value the contribution from both higher education and school staffto their development as teachers. Moreover the study of Williams et al. suggeststhat the higher education tutor role is a potentially important one, not only forthe work undertaken in the higher education institution, but also for thedistinctive contribution which the tutor can make in supporting the student inschool. This raises the question of whether and to what extent this role could betransferred to the teacher, given a resolution of issues of resources.

These studies and the one reported here raise important questions whichneed to be addressed by all providers of initial teacher training. Higher edu-cation institutions have to consider how roles might best be shared betweenthemselves and partner schools. Schools bidding to lead training consortia willneed to make decisions about whether and how to involve higher education intheir training arrangements. One result of these changed arrangements will begreater choice of training for students. Their views, as 'consumers' of initialtraining may thus become increasingly important.

The Study

This study involved interviews with students from four different higher edu-cation institutions. The interviews were carried out at the end of the PGCEyear. All four institutions were in the process of adapting courses to meet the

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requirements of Circular 9/92 (DFE, 1992). The extent of the planned coursechange varied. Student availability was a major factor in identifying those to beinterviewed, and this, together with the small size of the sample, means thatresults should be interpreted with caution. Their value will lie in raisingquestions which should be addressed by all involved in initial teacher educationrather than in the provision of definitive answers. Thirty students were inter-viewed using a semi-structured interview schedule. Interviews were recorded forlater transcription. Three recordings were damaged and could not be tran-scribed. The information provided by 27 students is therefore reported here.Questions covered a wide range of topics, including the kinds of support givenby tutors and teachers and perceptions of the optimum balance betweenschool-based and other work. Discussion of responses to these questions formsthe substance of this paper.

The sample consisted of 18 female and 11 male students. They weretraining to teach a range of secondary subjects: science (4), mathematics (3),physical education (PE) (5), English (7), history (2), humanities (2), modernlanguages (2), technology (2). Most had been placed in comprehensive schoolsfor their major teaching practice, although one had been in an independentschool and one in a selective school. Twelve of the schools catered for the 11-18age range, 12 for 11-16, one for 10-14, one for 11-14 and one for 14-18.

Results and Discussion

Analysis of the interview material raised a number of questions, three of whichare discussed in this paper. The first is the extent to which roles of teacher andtutor are interchangeable. The second is the amount of school-based workwhich students think is necessary. The third is the issue of assuring the qualityof the processes of initial teacher training in its changing context.

The Role of Teacher and Tutor

Booth's (1993) study of students following a single PGCE course suggested thatthe mentor is of crucial importance in the development of the student teachers'professional skills. He concludes that simply placing students in school withoutadequate mentoring support would give students little opportunity to developeffective classroom and teaching skills and understanding. While stressing theneed for the full involvement of mentors in all aspects of the planning, teachingand review of the course he does not address the question of whether this wouldbe sufficient to guarantee high quality support for students. This study supportsBooth's findings but suggests that, at best, high quality mentoring by teachers,complemented by high quality support from tutors offers the optimum trainingfor students.

Students in this study were supported both by teachers in their placementschool and by tutors from their higher education institution. They were askedabout the sorts of support received. That provided by teachers was varied. Atone extreme the thoroughness of the support given by the teacher was exemp-

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lary, particularly since the interviews were carried out prior to the implemen-tation of the requirements of Circular 9/92 (DFE, 1992). The student receivedboth written and oral feedback, was involved in negotiating the focus of teacherobservations and had regular meetings with the teacher to discuss progress.

Everything very detailed, she'd sit at the back and make detailed notesto say the least ... Written and oral because I had a meeting once aweek with J to discuss the actual teaching side of it and talk about anyproblems I had. It was very two-way—she's always there for me to talkto about something ... She made up this actual sheet that I filled in thefront page of before the observation telling her things that I'd like herto look out for and also she referred to things she made a commentabout beforehand ... so she's very detailed. (PN)

In contrast, other students felt that teachers had no time to help them and thatthey were on their own in school.

I didn't really feel that I was supported in the right way, althoughmaybe I should have asked for it more, but I also got the feeling in theschool that when I did ask for anything, they were always in a rush anddoing something else. (TN)

Many teachers were valued for the immediacy of their support and for their helpin coping in a particular school.

The school people could tell me the experiences they had of thechildren and how the work that I was doing was supposed to fit intothe whole scheme of the children's education in that school becausethey were at the school, they knew the ethos of the school. (KB)

While a number of students received written feedback from teachers on lessonstaught, many received only oral feedback and little of any sort once the teacherwas satisfied that the student was not at risk of failure. These teachers,according to the students, saw their role as checking that nothing was goingbadly wrong rather than as furthering the student's development as a teacher.

Basically their job was to oversee you and to just look at you andbasically there wasn't a lot of feedback. (JB)

I think he saw he was there basically to make sure nobody fell out ofthe window or that nothing really dreadful happened ... X was lovelybut he didn't like to criticise basically and I would have liked him to.(YN)

Most students did receive some feedback, either oral or written, and there weremany comments about the positive nature of this.

They'd always talk to me afterwards about it ... it was always very

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positive. All the teachers I worked with, I was very lucky, they gave youreally positive feedback. Not that they overpraised you and didn't tellyou what your faults were, they just didn't do it in a way thatundermined you at all. (SN)

While support from tutors was consistent in that it was always in the formof some written comment, in other ways, it was as variable as that provided byschools. The major difference was that while teacher support seemed to be afunction of individual schools and not related to the higher education institutionattended by the student, tutor support did appear to be affected by the natureof the institution. This said, it should be remembered that the sample size issmall and that results should be interpreted with caution. The findings reportedhere do raise questions about the relationship between institutional structuresand tutor support. Course structures vary considerably both between differenttypes of course, and within one type. What emerged from this limited study wasthat tutor support appeared to be viewed much more positively by thosestudents who were following courses where school-based support was under-taken by the same person who taught or tutored the student in the universityand where the tutor knew both the student and the school well. Several studentsin this situation compared tutor support favourably with that provided byteachers. This might be expected given that students were following coursesprior to the implementation of partnership agreements and transfer of resourcesfor student support.

Well it was more structured—there was more feedback basically. Imean every lesson they watched there was more kind of talk aboutlesson content, lesson plans, teaching styles, so it was very structuredin the way they looked at it. QB)

I found feedback from the tutors very helpful. To start with it waswritten feedback which was very thorough and looked at aspects thatperhaps the head of department was missing. It was comments onpaper, it wasn't just given and off you go, it was then a discussion aswell. (HB)

This was not, however, the experience of all students. Some found tutorexpectations unrealistic.

I thought in some cases they were unrealistic. It seemed to me theywanted an all-singing, all-dancing sort of lesson far more concernedwith the children being in groups and doing role play and acting things... You give them what you know they want to see. (ML)

For others the feedback was rushed or non-existent.

Mainly similar to the school's in that the tutor was in a hurry to beelsewhere and I had further lessons to go to so mainly it was a writtenreport which I digested in my own time. (OL)

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Where students were visited by tutors whom they felt that they did not know,their perceptions tended to be that the value of the tutor visit was muchdiminished.

In education study it says you've got to have a really good rapport withthe students cos then they learn and feel confident and then they putyou in with a TP [teaching pratice] tutor that you've never seen before.(PL)

At best, tutor support was seen very favourably. This depended less on thefrequency of the tutors' visits than on the rapport established between tutor andstudents and on the quality of the feedback given.

Well he was brilliant. I mean even though he was only here three times.He knew the school well and he knew what X was like. He would writeat least one and a half sides of notes for you to keep and cover certainpoints like management, resources etc., rapport with the children. Andhe was always interested in how you were getting on ... I felt he wasnever intrusive and he was willing to appreciate that each school wasdifferent and something you might have tried at some other schoolwould just not have worked at Y because, say, of the physical confinesof the school. (YN)

When asked whether input from both teachers and tutors was neededduring school practice, it became clear from the responses of these students that,given certain conditions, both were valued. The results of this study support thefindings of Williams et al. 's survey of students who had previously followed onePGCE course just prior to the publication of Circular 9/92 (DFE, 1992). Thissuggested that the contribution of the higher education tutor was one whichwould not be replicated easily by a member of the school staff. Key factors forthe students who felt this were the objectivity of the tutor with no affiliation toa specific school, the breadth of school experience which some tutors can bringand the availability of someone for whom the student rather than the school isthe main priority. This does imply the good student-tutor relationships referredto earlier.

The students interviewed here reinforced these views. The best tutorsbrought qualities which would not be replicated easily in schools, or, at least,not in all schools. The breadth of experience which tutors can bring to studentsupport, as a result of their work in many different schools with many differentpupils, students and teachers, would not be found among all or even manyteachers. This breadth of experience is often undervalued by those who criticisethe higher education input to initial teacher training, but it existed very clearlyfor those students who had enjoyed high quality support.

A different view because the teachers know what they were doingwithin school and how the school system worked and X is pointing out,

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'You've done that in school, how do you think that would apply tosome of the other schools that you've been to?' (GB)

I think it's best it shouldn't be interchangeable because your tutorshould have built up a body of experience of handling students in somany different schools and situations. He or she should be veryknowledgeable about the leading edge of teaching ideas, resources fortheir subject ... indeed one of the values that every school I've beeninto has [been that they have] said, 'Ah good we'll be able to get somenew ideas'. (FB)

The fact that a student would not necessarily choose to teach in the same kindof school as that used for a placement was another reason advanced in supportof access to a tutor who could offer several perspectives on aspects of teaching.

I think the school were offering me a very focused look at the way Itaught within their school. The things I would have to improve uponto be a good teacher in their school, in that kind of environment whichI decided by half term was not the sort of environment I wanted toteach in ... on the other hand what P could give was a more objectivelook at me as a teacher. I mean in that particular school but also howI'd fare in different sorts of schools. (QN)

Detachment from the specific school context is another feature of tutor supportwhich might not be easy to achieve in all schools. The greater the commitmentof the teacher to his or her pupils, the harder it is to remain objective about thestudent's performance with them.

You do really need independent support because you're still very muchof a guest and you feel even if you may not be, you feel very much atthe mercy of the school and at the goodwill of the staff ... (OL)

Tutors were also seen as needed in case of personality clashes in the school.

You can't guarantee that you're gonna get on with everyone and youcould quite easily be placed with someone you don't get on with or ina department where your ideas don't work. (SN)

All of these reasons for needing both teachers and tutors assumed a goodrelationship between student and tutor and what the students saw as up-to-dateand well-informed tutors. The statements quoted above were also seen asreasons for having tutor support in addition to, rather than instead of, teachersupport. A minority of this group had not had this experience and for them,tutors were seen as either out of touch or not sufficiently well known to thestudent to be of any help.

I think the teachers to be honest are in a better position becauseobviously they know the class and they're in the classroom themselvesso they really know what's what as it were. So I think that was more

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important than what the tutors had to say ... Well yeah they've beensitting in their little office for the last 10 years or whatever and theydon't have a clue what goes on in the classroom. (ZN)

Well to be honest with a tutor that's never seen you that doesn't reallyknow you, has no information on you, doesn't make any effort to knowyou, comes in twice, can't really see the point in that to be honest.(AL)

Even here, students felt that if someone were having major problems it wouldrequire a tutor to sort out the difficulties.

No, forget the tutors, just the teachers ... I don't need the tutors. Noeverything was there in the school for me. Someone who was havingbigger problems would need their tutors certainly coz there's no wayteachers in schools can give up time to cope with students. (BL)

Variability of student experience is a function of a range of factors. There are,and always will be a wide variety of schools, both in terms of school type—com-prehensive, selective, city technology college, independent and so on—catch-ment—inner city, rural, outer suburban, multi-and monocultural—ethos andlevel of resourcing. This is, of course, an argument for experience of more thanone school, but all students will inevitably be attached to a single school for theirfinal or major placement, or to a lead or base school in school-led training, andit is this school which is likely to have the greatest influence upon theirimmediate development as a teacher. Student experience will remain very variedin this sense. It could be argued that access to someone outside the school whocan help the student to put their specific experience into context will still beneeded, especially where students are likely to seek employment nationallyrather than locally.

It might be argued that, once resources are allocated to schools for studentsupport, variations in levels of support will diminish. In practice however,support is a function of interest and commitment on the part of school staff(Wildman et al., 1992) as well as of resourcing. The students interviewed herehad received support which varied both in amount and quality. In terms of thelevels of mentoring described by Mclntyre & Hagger (1992) and Williams(1993), some reported here was minimal while in other cases, it appeared to bewell developed. Further work will need to be undertaken to monitor the effectwhich resource transfer and mentor preparation have upon the experience ofstudents. There may be very positive effects upon the mentor's awareness ofwhat is involved in this role and upon ability to undertake specific mentoringtasks. However, the extent to which training and resources will affect the prioritywhich mentors give to their work with students compared with their otherresponsibilities remains an important issue, particularly where schools havetaken on a major training role.

A number of the roles identified by these students were being undertakenby teachers in some instances and by tutors in others. Clearly many of these

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could be undertaken by teachers in all schools given training and resources.Other roles do not lend themselves so easily to this kind of interchangeability.All students felt that the support of weak students would have to involve highereducation because of the time needed. This was thought necessary even ifschools were better resourced for supporting students. It is related to theschool's inability to guarantee priority treatment to students because their primeresponsibility has to be to pupils. This priority is a major reason for retaininghigher education involvement. Many students clearly felt extremely vulnerablewhen placed in schools and saw the reassurance which could be provided by animpartial outsider as invaluable.

At the same time, there are clearly areas of support which are much betterprovided by the school and which are not easily undertaken by tutors. Detailedknowledge of classes and individual pupils and of the day-to-day working ofspecific schools are clearly areas where the student looks first to the teacher forhelp. Teachers are seen as being essential to an understanding of how to teachsuccessfully in their own school and as providers of immediate practical assist-ance or ideas. For other students, poor quality support from tutors means thatthe school has to become the major source of help.

This raises questions about the value of tutor support if tutors are assignedto students who they do not know well and are visiting schools which they donot know and where they are not known. The tutor needed to be sensitive towhat might or might not work in a specific school and to be able to consider theimplications for practice in different schools of a student's experience in theirplacement school. He or she also needed to be perceived as both up to date andrealistic. Some tutors achieved all of these and their support was valued highlyby students. The value of tutor support where these conditions cannot beprovided seems to be questionable. In particular, tutor support which is'bought-in' by higher education institution may, unless carefully set up, be oflittle value and less useful than the support provided within the school.

Proportions of School-based Time

Earlier work by Furlong (1990) concluded that while students wanted a trainingwhich was clearly practical, whether this took place at school or in the highereducation institution, practice was not seen as sufficient on its own. Studentsalso felt that they needed opportunities for reflection and for sharing anddiscussing their experience with others. Like the students described by Furlong,those described in this study all felt that they wanted to spend a lot of time inschool and that they wanted a lot of practical 'hands-on' experience. They did,nevertheless, value university-based work for a variety of reasons. For a number,'university-based' was interpreted as involving the tutors and thus included workwhich included school-based elements. For example, many students had beeninto school at a very early stage in their course to teach small groups or parts ofa lesson which had been prepared with their tutor and which was subsequentlyreviewed with that tutor. For some a higher education-based preparation was

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seen as important in order to ensure that student needs were met prior toembarking on school-based work.

People coming on the course have lots of different backgrounds andcertain areas, they just wouldn't feel confident at all, like going in toschool and being faced with children or even preparing lessons at anearly stage and you need a little bit of back-up and a bit of supportearly on at the university ... I don't think teachers have the time ... Ithink if they did it would detract from the job they're supposed to bedoing ... (HB)

You couldn't put it all into the school because although on teachingpractice your head of department was there for everything that wentwrong whilst you're there, there is no way that she's got time to try toprepare you to teach, she can't give you practices in everything you'relikely to come across, but the university does. It goes through teachingstyles with you, through potential discipline problems, they look atequal opps ... all that the secondary school teacher hasn't got time todo. (GB)

For others the supported introduction to work with pupils, with time availablefor a tutor to help students both before and after lessons was seen as valuable.

I think the government's right in saying that you learn very quickly infront of classes and there is no substitute for spending that time infront of classes, but I think that it can be overdone. I think what we dohere ... which is small group teaching practice, there's a lovely intro-duction, it's safe, it's interesting, the kids are very well resourced insmall groups like that—the schools love having us ... (FB)

For others, the prospect of starting in school without some university-basedintroduction was simply seen as too stressful. Moreover it was recognised asenabling schools to benefit from work with students.

I think that I would have found that very, very stressful and very verynerve-wracking ... I don't know. I think I would have gone in withabsolutely no experience whatsoever and there'd be nowhere to drawfrom. I think that would have been extremely difficult. I couldn'timagine doing that. Not even with good support within the school ...I think you can have good support but with how busy teachers are Idon't think you'll ever be able to have the amount of time you willneed if you're going to have it totally school-based. (AB)

In some cases this was clearly related to a practice school offering verylimited support.

I think it really stinks. Because basically student teachers are a necess-ary pain in the neck aren't they? You need them because you need to

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give people time in the school to fail or succeed and that's basically allit is ... (PL)

In others the issue was not one of lack of support or commitment on the partof the school, but one of the ability of the school to meet the needs of allstudents, rather than simply those of the competent.

I think I learned more on teaching practice than I did in my time atuniversity. But something's got to be done to try and structure it wellbecause otherwise I think you're just gonna lose so many people justthrough the net, because teachers don't have the time ... with me herethe teachers just didn't have the time to spend with me. They admittedthey were glad that I was quite sort of self-sufficient and independent... (ML)

Some students also felt that teachers are not trained to be teacher trainers andthat they should not be expected to take on this role in addition to their mainjob as teachers of children. For many students, someone for whom they are thepriority is very important to their development and it is difficult to see how thiscould be provided within the school.

I think you do need a lot of time outside the classroom to do thetheory, to think about issues in schools before you go in. I mean ifsomeone had told me to go into school in September and teach withina few weeks and just have the odd day here and there I don't think I'dhave fared very well and I wouldn't have had a good impression ofschool and I don't think it's fair on the schools ... I mean they've gota job to do—they've got to provide education for those children.They're not trained as teacher trainers. They might be very goodmentors but they're not actually trained to do that and it's not reallywhere their duties should lie. (QN)

These students felt that the training of teachers was a different job needingdifferent skills and aptitudes from those required to teach children successfully.

I think it's a real shame. I feel that for a start, the teachers aren'ttrained to train teachers in that way. I mean obviously to train teachersyou have to have an amount of experience but then a certain sort ofperson becomes a tutor because they want to be involved in that andI feel that if training goes into school a lot of teachers will be landedwith training students when they have no desire to be involved intraining. They might have interest elsewhere no matter how wonderfulthey are as a trainer and I think that may cause resentment. (VN)

For several, time was needed at the university, not just because of tutor support,but for the opportunity offered to share experiences and to learn from otherstudents.

I found the times at university have been very useful. Being able to

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discuss, being able to look at issues has helped ... I certainly enjoyedspending time in university and spending time talking with otherpeople who're going to become teachers. (AL)

There are all sorts of issues about sharing experiences between otherstudents that are out at different schools, different placements ... (FB)

Issues of Quality

Provision of quality training involves the monitoring of course procedures andprocesses and the establishment of systems to ensure that there is an acceptabledegree of consistency of quality and mechanisms for dealing with situationswhere there is evidence of a lack of such consistency. It also involves processesto assess the quality and the effectiveness of the procedures which have beendeveloped. In initial teacher training this has tended, to date, to involve variousmechanisms such as the external examiner system, course validation and accred-itation, internal reviews and inspection by Her Majesty's Inspectorate. Thequality of the student's teaching experience has been assessed through lookingat the support provided through the higher education institution. Since, untilrecently, most courses were required to provide only 15 out of 36 weeks inschool, it was generally assumed that lack of quality of school placement couldbe compensated by high quality institutional training and that the responsibilityfor quality rested firmly with higher education. The new arrangements for initialtraining clearly change this. Given the leading role given to schools, they areobviously key players in issues of quality and also in terms of ensuring thatstudents receive certain minimum entitlements. The views of the studentsinterviewed here, suggest that this is likely to be problematic.

The variability of schools was mentioned by several students.

There must be a tremendous variation between the quality and stan-dards of schools out there which makes me worry a little; whenstudents are placed with a particular school you may get tremendousvariations of standards of training. (OL)

Students were very aware of the variable nature of the support given and anumber referred to others who seemed to be better supported than they were.

I have seen a couple of reports written on my friends and seen someof the things that they've written—I thought, yeah, ... I'd like that ...I saw one report where the teacher actually wrote down timings andthings and actually wrote something, yes moved on to this part, youintroduced this part well but perhaps you could have said this or youcould have done that and actually go through the whole structure ofwhat we're doing which I think would have been a benefit even if onlydone once. I just felt I wasn't really given anything that I could workon. (NL)

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Students were, in the main, very conscious of both the time pressures onteachers and of the fact that their priority had to be the pupils. They were notcriticising schools or teachers, but pointing out that teachers' conditions ofservice currently mean that pupils must have first call on their time and that thismust affect their ability to give guarantees of quality in terms of time commit-ments.

I was actually talking to a teacher yesterday and she said how on eartham I going to fit this into my timetable and be able to give adequatetime to students? Whereas here, when my tutor comes in to see me heknows that he has this hour and a half and it's my time and nobody isgonna be able to say, 'Oh can you come—so and so's fallen and brokentheir leg'. I think the thing is in a school you never know what's gonnahappen from day to day whereas that time with a university tutor canbe so structured. (YN)

These variations will not be easy to eliminate. The quality of support providedby the higher education institution was also variable. The difference here wasthat variability appeared to be a function of the institution and its structures andprocedures. Given the small size of this sample, this is a question worth furtherinvestigation and not one which can be answered here. It can, however, besuggested tentatively, that structures which result in tutors with a major re-sponsibility for teaching and school-based support of students may producebetter quality and greater consistency of quality than those which allocate tutorsto student support as a minor part of their job.

Conclusions

Initial teacher training is a complex undertaking, which currently takes place invaried contexts which provide different levels of training. A continued supply ofwell-prepared and committed new teachers depends upon provision of trainingwhich meets their needs. For some of this group of students, the school andhigher education institution each had much to offer which was of value. Forothers, the contribution of one of the partners was seen to be less thansatisfactory. It seems that, at best, both school and higher education are valued.For some students this may be necessary to their survival during what, for many,is a stressful period of training. It appears that it would be difficult for eitherpartner to assume fully the role currently played by the other. If this is the case,then ways need to be found which enable both to continue to play a full part inteacher training, while allowing other forms of provision to develop to meet theneeds of different students. This means identifying not only those conditions inschool which are best able to ensure good support for students, but also highereducation structures which provide support which is of value. This study seemsto confirm that greater involvement of schools makes the management andcontrol of quality more difficult. This is partly a question of resources which willnot be solved wholly by allocating more money to schools for the training of

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teachers, but is also a question of priorities. Higher education may be able tooffer quality guarantees not simply through being given this responsibility, butby discharging it through a continued involvement in the training process ratherthan simply through its management. This level of involvement would clearlymeet the needs of many of the students interviewed here.

Acknowledgement

I would like to acknowledge the assistance of Mairead Dunne who conductedmany of the interviews on which this paper is based.

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