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    External websites: the rules

    Jazza

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    Perth, WA

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    I want to make it very clear what my (so BAU's) stance is on external / third party websites

    and communities. As much as I want to be friendly and polite to other groups, I have to draw

    the line somewhere.

    do not link to brony Facebook groups and pages do not link to private Facebook events (private = group-only) do not advertise other brony forums and groups

    There are some exceptions to these rules so please query me directly if you want to check if

    you're allowed to post it.

    Event organisers that use Facebook groups are encouraged to post forum calendar events and

    threads for their events, but please do not link to the event itself (unless it's public, see the

    rules above).

    Thank you for understanding.Casparis my OC

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    Look! It's Featured!, SA

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    Question,

    Is this a legal issue or just a personal one?

    "Open the Dumblerdoor, get on the Dumblefloor, everybody walk the Dumbledore." -Derrick Steamstram

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    (Today 01:32 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to brony Facebook groups and pagesI can kinda agree with this, although it hasn't really been much of a problem. Most of why

    you don't want Facebook stuff posted is due to your personal problems with a group in the

    past and I'm not sure that that should be the grounds for a complete ban.

    (Today 01:32 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to private Facebook events (private = group-

    only)

    Makes sense

    (Today 01:32 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to other brony forums

    I don't really agree with this at all, there is a lotthat happens on other forums and discussion-

    centered sites in teh brony community and banning links to them doesn't make sense to me.

    (Today 01:32 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to other brony groups

    Define group

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    Jazza

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    Perth, WA

    Posts: 6,678

    Joined: Oct 2011

    (Today 01:50 PM)Merrylexiious Wrote: Question,

    Is this a legal issue or just a personal one?

    Neither. I'm doing this in the interest of the community.

    (Today 01:51 PM)Cameron:D Wrote:

    (Today 01:32 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to brony Facebook groups and pages

    I can kinda agree with this, although it hasn't really been much of a problem. Most of why

    you don't want Facebook stuff posted is due to your personal problems with a group in the

    past and I'm not sure that that should be the grounds for a complete ban.

    This isn't a personal thing.

    (Today 01:51 PM)Cameron:D Wrote:

    (Today 01:32 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to other brony forumsI don't really agree with this at all, there is a lotthat happens on other forums and discussion-

    centered sites in teh brony community and banning links to them doesn't make sense to me.

    (Today 01:32 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to other brony groups

    Define group

    I should've been more specific. I'm mostly talking about Australian brony groups, however it

    also applies to any third party community. It's intended to stop people taking other people

    away from our community. If in doubt, you should contact me directly. Chances are I'll

    approve of it, but there are some instances when I won't.

    The overall thing I'm trying to get across here is to stop people from saying "Hey guys, join

    this community!".

    Casparis my OC

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    (Today 01:51 PM)Jazza Wrote:

    (Today 01:50 PM)Merrylexiious Wrote: Question,

    Is this a legal issue or just a personal one?

    Neither. I'm doing this in the interest of the community.

    I see,

    Another question.

    (Today 01:51 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to other brony forums

    I'd like a bit more context with this,

    Is this to stop advertising? I'm curious.

    "Open the Dumblerdoor, get on the Dumblefloor, everybody walk the Dumbledore." -Derrick Steamstram

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    (Today 01:51 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to other brony forums

    I'd like a bit more context with this,

    Is this to stop advertising? I'm curious.

    Yes, exactly. Even if people don't say "Go here, it's a cool place!" I don't want people

    accidentally drawing people away from here.

    Casparis my OC

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    Joined: Dec 2011(Today 01:59 PM)Jazza Wrote:

    (Today 01:56 PM)Merrylexiious Wrote:

    (Today 01:51 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to other brony forums

    I'd like a bit more context with this,

    Is this to stop advertising? I'm curious.

    Yes, exactly. Even if people don't say "Go here, it's a cool place!" I don't want people

    accidentally drawing people away from here.

    I guess that makes sense, but I feel like it's unnecessary. We should be able to keep people

    here just by being an awesome community, not by restricting links to other communities.

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    Jazza

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    (Today 02:09 PM)Porcupine Wrote:

    (Today 01:59 PM)Jazza Wrote:

    (Today 01:56 PM)Merrylexiious Wrote:

    (Today 01:51 PM)Jazza Wrote: do not link to other brony forums

    I'd like a bit more context with this,

    Is this to stop advertising? I'm curious.

    Yes, exactly. Even if people don't say "Go here, it's a cool place!" I don't want people

    accidentally drawing people away from here.

    I guess that makes sense, but I feel like it's unnecessary. We should be able to keep people

    here just by being an awesome community, not by restricting links to other communities.

    I agree, but we have to do what we can to encourage people not to join others. It's less aboutthat and more about people blatantly advertising.

    Like this.

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    Okay, so the main problem I have with this is when I organise the South Australian brony

    meets. I always make a forum thread for each meet, as well as a Facebook event. This has

    shown to work well, and on occasion has also drawn people from Facebook to Bronies

    Australia. I have tried to promote Bronies Australia at events and such, but at the end of theday I am not other people and cannot force them to use Bronies Australia instead of Facebook

    for these things. So what I am asking is, may I still link to the Facebook event page in the OP

    of my threads? If not then I thoroughly disagree with this as it seems far too strict and I don't

    want that kind of environment promoted here, I don't think we need to be overly tight on such

    regulations - it's unnecessary.

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    (Today 02:25 PM)ExplodingPonyToast Wrote: Okay, so the main problem I have with this is

    when I organise the South Australian brony meets. I always make a forum thread for each

    meet, as well as a Facebook event. This has shown to work well, and on occasion has also

    drawn people from Facebook to Bronies Australia. I have tried to promote Bronies Australia

    at events and such, but at the end of the day I am not other people and cannot force them to

    use Bronies Australia instead of Facebook for these things. So what I am asking is, may I still

    link to the Facebook event page in the OP of my threads? If not then I thoroughly disagree

    with this as it seems far too strict and I don't want that kind of environment promoted here, Idon't think we need to be overly tight on such regulations - it's unnecessary.

    This is where the exceptions come into play. If people can explain good reasons why they

    should be able to link to another brony community, then I would probably permit it.

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    Alrighty, sounds ok to me then. As long as this is done sensibly then I'm ok with it.

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    Dude this is kinda ridiculous, if there is a cool event or what not being put on by another

    group why cant we go hey check this out we should go and have fun. Its not driving people

    away or making them choose its being all inclusive, and then to try and say its good for the

    community is asinine.

    "I agree, but we have to do what we can to encourage people not to join others. It's less aboutthat and more about people blatantly advertising."

    This right here is the problem for some reason you always have this preconceived notion that

    its us vs them, its not. That link you posted wasn't blatantly advertising as much as trying to

    show off a good time. And why must we be hay you should come here and only here....

    seriously buck that. The community is not going to die just because people visit other sites

    every now and then.

    So yea my opinion which Im sure will be ignored as per usual, but this seems like a heavy

    case of god admining and is bringing up flashbacks of teh whole "Your" community thing.

    People aren't forced to stay here and the more rules like this you enforce, the more you maydrive people away.

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    Edit: Also once again Im surprised to see mods not knowing about these rule changes, or any

    notion that they were discussed before hand

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    Am I the only one of the impression that a person can be in multiple groups at once? I'd also

    like to say that making a ton of restrictions isn't the way to encourage people to stay/join the

    community.

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    (Today 01:51 PM)Jazza Wrote: I should've been more specific. I'm mostly talking about

    Australian brony groups, however it also applies to any third party community. It's intendedto stop people taking other people away from our community. If in doubt, you should contact

    me directly. Chances are I'll approve of it, but there are some instances when I won't.

    I think things like this should be handled on a more reactive basis, rather than outright

    banning them before anything happens. No one is going to ask you if they are allowed to post

    a link, instead they will just not post it because that is a lot easier than waiting hours for a

    response for you.

    Also in response to the Facebook groups, I feel that outright banning links to them will

    actually most people away from our community as the active members in the FB groups aregoing to see that cross-discussion between their group and our community is not allowed so

    they aren't going to bother being active here or getting others to sign up here.

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    (Today 02:35 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: Dude this is kinda ridiculous, if there is a cool

    event or what not being put on by another group why cant we go hey check this out we

    should go and have fun. Its not driving people away or making them choose its being all

    inclusive, and then to try and say its good for the community is asinine.

    That's why I specifically said that event organisers should create an event here. Is that so

    hard?

    (Today 02:35 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: That link you posted wasn't blatantly advertising as

    much as trying to show off a good time.

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    Are you looking at the same link I am?

    (Today 02:35 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: So yea my opinion which Im sure will be ignored

    as per usual, but this seems like a heavy case of god admining and is bringing up flashbacks

    of teh whole "Your" community thing.People aren't forced to stay here and the more rules like this you enforce, the more you may

    drive people away.

    I haven't been running successful communities for years? This is how most other

    communities operate, it's how BAU has been operating since day one pretty much (I've had to

    privately request people to remove advertisements) and now I'm just putting out here in the

    open.

    Would you like me to be more strict than I am? I could easily be x100 more stricter and

    impose numerous more rules to restrict everyone. Yet I am not. The mere fact that I'm

    allowing everyone to discuss and oppose rules shouldn't be taken for granted.

    (Today 02:41 PM)Cameron:D Wrote: I think things like this should be handled on a more

    reactive basis, rather than outright banning them before anything happens. No one is going to

    ask you if they are allowed to post a link, instead they will just not post it because that is a lot

    easier than waiting hours for a response for you.

    I'm quite sick of requesting other people to take down links and the like, so I'm saving myself

    a lot of time and effort doing it in future.

    (Today 02:41 PM)Cameron:D Wrote: Also in response to the Facebook groups, I feel that

    outright banning links to them will actually most people away from our community as the

    active members in the FB groups are going to see that cross-discussion between their group

    and our community is not allowed so they aren't going to bother being active here or getting

    others to sign up here.

    Facebook groups are the number one competitor to this community. I have worked very hard

    from day one to make BAU what it is, even with a lot of criticism from Facebook groups. It

    is true that I have an intense disliking for Facebook groups, however I believe my actions to

    ban them are not related.Casparis my OC

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    Not at all space, I am in multiple groups, why because I love interacting with everyone, and

    yet the site I frequent the most seems to have the largest problem with sharing, I honestly

    dont get it.

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    I don't get what you linked. So we can't link to a Facebook gallery of pictures of an event

    people here went to that they might be interested in viewing without any implications of 'you

    guys should totally join this group'?

    Gotta agree, getting kinda draconian here. What about sharing info from other forums while

    linking to said forum to let people know the source? Or should I just make myself a target of

    SA again?

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    (Today 02:42 PM)Paingod556 Wrote: I don't get what you linked. So we can't link to a

    Facebook gallery of pictures of an event people here went to that they might be interested in

    viewing without any implications of 'you guys should totally join this group'?

    Why not upload the photos to an Imgur gallery then link them here? Not everyone has

    Facebook either.

    Casparis my OC

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    (Today 02:41 PM)Jazza Wrote:

    (Today 02:35 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: Dude this is kinda ridiculous, if there is a cool

    event or what not being put on by another group why cant we go hey check this out we

    should go and have fun. Its not driving people away or making them choose its being all

    inclusive, and then to try and say its good for the community is asinine.

    That's why I specifically said that event organisers should create an event here. Is that so

    hard?

    (Today 02:35 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: That link you posted wasn't blatantly advertising asmuch as trying to show off a good time.

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    Are you looking at the same link I am?

    (Today 02:35 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: So yea my opinion which Im sure will be ignored

    as per usual, but this seems like a heavy case of god admining and is bringing up flashbacks

    of teh whole "Your" community thing.People aren't forced to stay here and the more rules like this you enforce, the more you may

    drive people away.

    I haven't been running successful communities for years? This is how most other

    communities operate, it's how BAU has been operating since day one pretty much (I've had to

    privately request people to remove advertisements) and now I'm just putting out here in the

    open.

    Would you like me to be more strict than I am? I could easily be x100 more stricter and

    impose numerous more rules to restrict everyone. Yet I am not. The mere fact that I'm

    allowing everyone to discuss and oppose rules shouldn't be taken for granted.

    Point 1. So your saying if a facebook group is holding an event, we can point it out, we just

    have to take all teh details, recreate them and then start a new event and yada yada yada

    work..... that's a lot of busy work that can be shortened with one link, one link that people are

    still getting from this site.

    Point 2. Agree to disagree

    Point 3. Running a community is different to owning a community, have you been successful

    at running it? Yes, but that doesnt mean you own it. Similarly saying that its now open for

    discussion is kind of a lie, yes we can discus the rule changes but nothing is going change, the

    rules are still going to be their so really discussing them is pointless, especially whenever you

    bite anyone's head off who disagrees. I have been on other sites, they dont operate this way, I

    have never seen a forum impose rules like these, nor have I seen one so desperate not to let

    members go, its off putting and thats why most forums dont do it.

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    (Today 02:48 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: Point 1. So your saying if a facebook group is

    holding an event, we can point it out, we just have to take all teh details, recreate them andthen start a new event and yada yada yada work..... that's a lot of busy work that can be

    shortened with one link, one link that people are still getting from this site.

    Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. If an organiser can't spend the 30 seconds or so to create

    an event here, then they don't deserve to organise an event.

    (Today 02:48 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: Point 3. Running a community is different to

    owning a community, have you been successful at running it? Yes, but that doesnt mean you

    own it. Similarly saying that its now open for discussion is kind of a lie, yes we can discus

    the rule changes but nothing is going change, the rules are still going to be their so really

    discussing them is pointless, especially whenever you bite anyone's head off who disagrees. I

    have been on other sites, they dont operate this way, I have never seen a forum impose rules

    like these, nor have I seen one so desperate not to let members go, its off putting and thats

    why most forums dont do it.

    A) I do own BAU. That's why I can introduce rules without discussing them with staff, that's

    why I can change anything on BAU without anyone's permission, that's why I spend hours of

    my day working on it to make it the best it can be and that's why BAU is how it is today.

    B) You've never seen other forums impose rules like these? Alrighty then.

    Casparis my OC

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    You're kind of pressing this a bit too far Jazza. I mean yes blatant advertising is an issue (one

    that we dont see on this forum very often) but banning linking to other communities all

    together? That's kind of taking to too far. Especially when it comes to meetups when you

    consider most meets are organized in conjunction with the FB groups. There is nothing

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    wrong with linking the FB photo album or a FB even or even if people are curious as to the

    people they were hanging out with, the group themselves. No offense but this just seems like

    you're pressing your personal hate of Facebook onto the the rest of the forum because you

    don't want the members to associate with the FB groups.

    Also the biggest issue I see with this is the lack of communication with the mods and otherstaff. You always say that you want the staff to have input and that you want them to be

    included in decisions. Yet you did this out of the blue, no staff discussion in meetings and not

    even a thread discussing it in the staff forums, nothing. I honestly think you should have

    come to a consensus with the rest (or rather the majority) of the staff before making any

    major changes to the rules.

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    (Today 02:51 PM)Jazza Wrote:

    (Today 02:48 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: Point 1. So your saying if a facebook group is

    holding an event, we can point it out, we just have to take all teh details, recreate them and

    then start a new event and yada yada yada work..... that's a lot of busy work that can be

    shortened with one link, one link that people are still getting from this site.

    Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. If an organiser can't spend the 30 seconds or so to create

    an event here, then they don't deserve to organise an event.

    (Today 02:48 PM)Christmas Riot Wrote: Point 3. Running a community is different to

    owning a community, have you been successful at running it? Yes, but that doesnt mean you

    own it. Similarly saying that its now open for discussion is kind of a lie, yes we can discus

    the rule changes but nothing is going change, the rules are still going to be their so really

    discussing them is pointless, especially whenever you bite anyone's head off who disagrees. I

    have been on other sites, they dont operate this way, I have never seen a forum impose rules

    like these, nor have I seen one so desperate not to let members go, its off putting and thatswhy most forums dont do it.

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    A) I do own BAU. That's why I didn't discuss it with the staff, that's why I make the rules,

    that's why I spend hours of my day working on it to make it the best it can be.

    B) You've never seen other forums impose rules like these? Alrighty then.

    Ok back to point 1 what if your not the one whos actually organizing it, you heard of it from

    the facebook group and want more people to come, you actually don't know all the details

    just have the facebook link. By creating the event again through here you may be giving

    people the wrong details or misleading them into thinking its something it isnt..... hell from

    what you wrote im not even sure you would be allowed to even do that.

    The other point you own the site yes, you run the site yes, you don't own the community, theyaren't things that can be owned by one person, its a collective. Thats why when I see you

    make these decisions for the community, without discussing it with the community I cant

    help but feel your taking it a step to far. Im not the only one here who thinks some of these

    rules are ridiculous and it wouldn't have come as such a shock if you had discussed it with

    people first.

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    (Today 02:54 PM)Opine_Dazemas Wrote: You're kind of pressing this a bit too far Jazza. I

    mean yes blatant advertising is an issue (one that we dont see on this forum very often) but

    banning linking to other communities all together? That's kind of taking to too far. Especially

    when it comes to meetups when you consider most meets are organized in conjunction with

    the FB groups. There is nothing wrong with linking the FB photo album or a FB even or even

    if people are curious as to the people they were hanging out with, the group themselves. Nooffense but this just seems like you're pressing your personal hate of Facebook onto the the

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    rest of the forum because you don't want the members to associate with the FB groups.

    Also the biggest issue I see with this is the lack of communication with the mods and other

    staff. You always say that you want the staff to have input and that you want them to be

    included in decisions. Yet you did this out of the blue, no staff discussion in meetings and not

    even a thread discussing it in the staff forums, nothing. I honestly think you should havecome to a consensus with the rest (or rather the majority) of the staff before making any

    major changes to the rules.

    It seems that I'm the only person who understands why I'm doing this, so I didn't see any

    reason to mention this to the staff. By saying what you've said, you've proved my point.

    Casparis my OC

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    Maybe if you are the only person who understands it then you may actually be incorrect with

    this decision? It just seems to me that the stance on this with what you've just said is 'they

    won't agree with me so I won't tell them'.

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