does god exist? the case from morality

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Premise: A Christianity Worth

Thinking About

Are there good reasons to

believe that God exists?How can I know? Part 2

The Case from Morality

Speaker: John Ferguson ~ When: Oct 27, 6pm ~ Where: Confederation Park Activity Centre


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...in your hearts set apartChrist as Lord. Always be

prepared to give an answer

to everyone who asks you togive the reasonfor the hope

that you have.

~ The Apostle Peter, in 1 Peter (3:15)


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apologia = a defense

Apologetics

Commending and Defending

the Christian faith

(Christ is Lord)


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believe that God exists?

How can I know? Part 1

The Cosmological Argument


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1. Everything that begins to existhad a cause.

2. The universe began to exist.

3. Therefore the universe hada cause.

The Cosmological Argument


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The Creator MUST be...

1. Self-existent

2. Timeless

3. Spaceless

4. Immaterial

5. Powerful

6. Intelligent

7. Personal


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believe that God exists?

How can I know? Part 2

The Case from Morality


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Can we be

GOODwithout God

?


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If God does

not exist,

everything is

permissible.


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Premise 1: If God does not exist, objective

moral values and duties do notexist.


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Premise 2: Objective moral values and

duties exist.


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Premise 2: Objective moral values and

duties exist.

Conclusion: Therefore, God exists.


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In my experience, the moral

argument is the most

effective of all the arguments

for the existence of God.

The moral argument cannot

be so easily brushed aside.For every day you get up you

answer the question of

whether there are objective

moral values and duties by

how you live. Its

unavoidable.

~ William Lane CraigOn Guard


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{moral values}

refers to whether something is good or bad(eg., a person or an action).


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{moral values}

refers to whether something is good or bad(eg., a person or an action).

{moral duties}

refers to our obligation to act in acertain ways; ought-ness


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{objective morality}

morality is independent of peoples opinion;there is a standard of right and wrong that

applies to everyone, everywhere


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{objective morality}

morality is independent of peoples opinion;there is a standard of right and wrong that

applies to everyone, everywhere

{subjective morality}

morality is dependent on peoples opinion;there is no objective standardof right & wrong


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So, where doyou stand?

Is there such a

thing as right

and wrong?


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nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.

~ Oscar Wilde


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Bibi Aisha



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Torturingchildren?


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Bullying?



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Sexualabuse?



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Genocide?



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Child sacrifice?



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Slavery?



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Spanish Inquisition?



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Salem witch trials?



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Homosexual priests molesting boys?


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Roman Catholic Church cover up?


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Moral

Intuition


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A man does notcall a line crooked

unless he has

some idea of astraight line?

~ CS Lewis

Mere Christianity


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Four options on the source of morality:

1. My self

...everyonedoes what is

right in his or herown eyes....


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You have yourway, I have my

way. As for the

right way, it doesnot exist.

~ Fredrich Neitzche


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Im pretty much

agnostic at this point inmy life. But I find

atheism just as hard to

get my head around as Ifind fundamental

Christianity. Because if

there is no such thing ascosmic justice, what is

the point of being good?

~ Vince GilliganBreaking Bad


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...Thats the one thing

that no one has everexplained to me. Why

shouldnt I go rob a

bank, especially if Imsmart enough to get

away with it? Whats

stopping me?

~ Vince GilliganBreaking Bad


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If it all happens naturalistically,whats the need for a God?

Cant I set my own rules? Whoowns me? I own myself.

~ Jeffrey Dahmer,killed 17 boys over a

13 year period

If a person doesnt think that

there is a God to be

accountable to, then whats

the point of trying to modify

your behavior to keep it

within acceptable ranges?

Dateline NBC, The Final Interview, Nov. 29, 1994


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Ted Bundy


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Jesse Pinkman, Breaking Bad


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2. My culture



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Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.


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What Hitler did notbelieve andwhat...Nazi doctors...did not

believe was that God waswatching what they were doing.

And as far as we can tell, veryfew of those carrying out the

horrors of the twentieth centuryworried overmuch that God waswatching what they were doing

either.

That is, after all, the meaningofa secular society.


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Corrie Ten Boom & herfamily hid Jews &

helped them escapethe Nazis.

Is she a heroor a villian?


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3. My biology



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nature is not cruel,

only pitilessly indifferent.

This is one of the hardest

lessons for humans to

learn. We cannot admit

that things might beneither good nor evil,

neither cruel nor kind, but

simply callous

indifferent to all suffering,

lacking purpose

~ Atheist Richard DawkinsRiver Out of Eden


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ethics isillusory Morality

is just an aid tosurvival and

reproduction. Anydeeper meaning is

illusory.

~ Michael RuseFlorida State University


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4. My Creator



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The Nuremberg Trials, 1945-1946


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Is there a God? No. What is

the purpose of the

universe? There is none.

What is the meaning of life?

Ditto. Why am I here? Just

dumb luck. What is the

difference between right

and wrong, good and bad?

There is no moral difference

between them. Why shouldI be moral? Because it

makes you feel better.


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Can we be

GOODwithout God?


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People do not have to believe in God...

...to be moral

...to recognize objective morals & duties

...to formulate a system of ethics


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1. If God does not exist, there is nosuch thing as right and wrong.

2. There is right and wrong.

3. Therefore God exists.


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I believe in Christianityas I believe in the sun;

not only because I see it,

but because by itI see everything else.

~ CS Lewis


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it is appointed for

man to die once, and

after that comes

judgment.

~ Hebrews 9:27


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So then each of us will

give an accountofhimself to God.

~ Romans 14:10


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No one is good

but God alone.

~ Mark 10:18


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ER, Atonement


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