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Premise: A Christianity Worth
Thinking About
Are there good reasons to
believe that God exists?How can I know? Part 2
The Case from Morality
Speaker: John Ferguson ~ When: Oct 27, 6pm ~ Where: Confederation Park Activity Centre
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...in your hearts set apartChrist as Lord. Always be
prepared to give an answer
to everyone who asks you togive the reasonfor the hope
that you have.
~ The Apostle Peter, in 1 Peter (3:15)
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apologia = a defense
Apologetics
Commending and Defending
the Christian faith
(Christ is Lord)
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Are there good reasons to
believe that God exists?
How can I know? Part 1
The Cosmological Argument
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1. Everything that begins to existhad a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore the universe hada cause.
The Cosmological Argument
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The Creator MUST be...
1. Self-existent
2. Timeless
3. Spaceless
4. Immaterial
5. Powerful
6. Intelligent
7. Personal
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Are there good reasons to
believe that God exists?
How can I know? Part 2
The Case from Morality
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Can we be
GOODwithout God
?
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If God does
not exist,
everything is
permissible.
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Premise 1: If God does not exist, objective
moral values and duties do notexist.
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Premise 1: If God does not exist, objective
moral values and duties do notexist.
Premise 2: Objective moral values and
duties exist.
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Premise 1: If God does not exist, objective
moral values and duties do notexist.
Premise 2: Objective moral values and
duties exist.
Conclusion: Therefore, God exists.
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In my experience, the moral
argument is the most
effective of all the arguments
for the existence of God.
The moral argument cannot
be so easily brushed aside.For every day you get up you
answer the question of
whether there are objective
moral values and duties by
how you live. Its
unavoidable.
~ William Lane CraigOn Guard
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{moral values}
refers to whether something is good or bad(eg., a person or an action).
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{moral values}
refers to whether something is good or bad(eg., a person or an action).
{moral duties}
refers to our obligation to act in acertain ways; ought-ness
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{objective morality}
morality is independent of peoples opinion;there is a standard of right and wrong that
applies to everyone, everywhere
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{objective morality}
morality is independent of peoples opinion;there is a standard of right and wrong that
applies to everyone, everywhere
{subjective morality}
morality is dependent on peoples opinion;there is no objective standardof right & wrong
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So, where doyou stand?
Is there such a
thing as right
and wrong?
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nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
~ Oscar Wilde
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Bibi Aisha
nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
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nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
Torturingchildren?
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Bullying?
nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
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Sexualabuse?
nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
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Genocide?
nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
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Child sacrifice?
nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
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Slavery?
nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
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Spanish Inquisition?
nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
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Salem witch trials?
nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
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nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
Homosexual priests molesting boys?
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nothing is good or bad, only charming or dull.
Roman Catholic Church cover up?
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Moral
Intuition
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A man does notcall a line crooked
unless he has
some idea of astraight line?
~ CS Lewis
Mere Christianity
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Four options on the source of morality:
1. My self
...everyonedoes what is
right in his or herown eyes....
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You have yourway, I have my
way. As for the
right way, it doesnot exist.
~ Fredrich Neitzche
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Im pretty much
agnostic at this point inmy life. But I find
atheism just as hard to
get my head around as Ifind fundamental
Christianity. Because if
there is no such thing ascosmic justice, what is
the point of being good?
~ Vince GilliganBreaking Bad
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...Thats the one thing
that no one has everexplained to me. Why
shouldnt I go rob a
bank, especially if Imsmart enough to get
away with it? Whats
stopping me?
~ Vince GilliganBreaking Bad
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If it all happens naturalistically,whats the need for a God?
Cant I set my own rules? Whoowns me? I own myself.
~ Jeffrey Dahmer,killed 17 boys over a
13 year period
If a person doesnt think that
there is a God to be
accountable to, then whats
the point of trying to modify
your behavior to keep it
within acceptable ranges?
Dateline NBC, The Final Interview, Nov. 29, 1994
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Ted Bundy
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Jesse Pinkman, Breaking Bad
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2. My culture
Four options on the source of morality:
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Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.
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What Hitler did notbelieve andwhat...Nazi doctors...did not
believe was that God waswatching what they were doing.
And as far as we can tell, veryfew of those carrying out the
horrors of the twentieth centuryworried overmuch that God waswatching what they were doing
either.
That is, after all, the meaningofa secular society.
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Corrie Ten Boom & herfamily hid Jews &
helped them escapethe Nazis.
Is she a heroor a villian?
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3. My biology
Four options on the source of morality:
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nature is not cruel,
only pitilessly indifferent.
This is one of the hardest
lessons for humans to
learn. We cannot admit
that things might beneither good nor evil,
neither cruel nor kind, but
simply callous
indifferent to all suffering,
lacking purpose
~ Atheist Richard DawkinsRiver Out of Eden
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ethics isillusory Morality
is just an aid tosurvival and
reproduction. Anydeeper meaning is
illusory.
~ Michael RuseFlorida State University
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4. My Creator
Four options on the source of morality:
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The Nuremberg Trials, 1945-1946
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Is there a God? No. What is
the purpose of the
universe? There is none.
What is the meaning of life?
Ditto. Why am I here? Just
dumb luck. What is the
difference between right
and wrong, good and bad?
There is no moral difference
between them. Why shouldI be moral? Because it
makes you feel better.
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Can we be
GOODwithout God?
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People do not have to believe in God...
...to be moral
...to recognize objective morals & duties
...to formulate a system of ethics
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1. If God does not exist, there is nosuch thing as right and wrong.
2. There is right and wrong.
3. Therefore God exists.
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I believe in Christianityas I believe in the sun;
not only because I see it,
but because by itI see everything else.
~ CS Lewis
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it is appointed for
man to die once, and
after that comes
judgment.
~ Hebrews 9:27
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So then each of us will
give an accountofhimself to God.
~ Romans 14:10
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No one is good
but God alone.
~ Mark 10:18
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ER, Atonement
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