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Citywire Switzerland
Gstaad, 12-13 September 2013
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Member of Investment Committee
Sandra Crowl
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3 subsidiaries in Luxembourg, Milan, and Frankfurt and 2 offices: Madrid, and London
2 custodians: Caceis Bank France and BPSS Luxembourg
Carmignac Gestion
Key facts and figures
Founded in 1989 by Edouard Carmignac.
The equity capital is held by the Management and employees and amounts to over EUR 1,467 Million.
Carmignac Gestion has EUR 54 Billion in Assets under Management
225 staff including 25 Fund Managers and analysts.
Source: Carmignac Gestion, 30/08/2013
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International management team Excellence, sharing and synergy are at the cornerstone of our quality management
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An experienced management team Expert knowledge of all asset classes
Frédéric LEROUX
Rose OUAHBA
Laurent DUCOIN
Simon PICKARD
David FIELD
Laurent CHEBANIER Country Risk
Julien CHERON Quantitative Analyst
Charles ZERAH
Carlos GALVIS
Keith NEY
Caroline SLAMA
Pierre VERLÉ
François-Joseph FURRY
Samir ESSAFRI
Markus KULESSA
Xavier HOVASSE
David Y. PARK
Haiyan LI-LABBÉ
Edward COLE
Simon LOVAT
Antoine COLONNA Consumer
Matthew WILLIAMS Finance
Tim JAKSLAND Innovation
Vincent STEENMAN Industry
Didier SAINT-GEORGES
Sandra CROWL
Jean MÉDECIN
MULTI-STRATEGY
INTERNATIONAL BONDS
EUROPEAN EQUITIES
NATURAL RESOURCES EQUITIES
COMMODITY EQUITIES
GLOBAL ANALYSTS
Edouard Carmignac CIO
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Team Leader Fund Manager
Analyst Years of experience
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Emerging market pioneer
*Morningstar qualitative report: 30/09/2012
© Morningstar. All rights reserved.
Strong knowledge of local markets is assumed by the cultural diversity of the investment team
(10 nationalities and 12 spoken languages).
Qualitative research On the ground research is a crucial part of our fund management and a relevant element in the decision-making process. We meet all the companies from our portfolios at least once a year.
Tapping into the Emerging Universe since the company’s inception in 1989.
Carmignac Gestion has a high-quality team consisting of analysts and managers who, whether directly or not, have all built up sound expertize in these markets.
Morningstar*
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Emerging Markets in a More Complex World
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Global recovery under the constraint of deleveraging
Source: Bloomberg, 31/08/2013
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US 10-year yields Global Manufacturing PMI
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The Fed’s liquidity injections have not led to a strong increase in credit and money supply
Rebased 100 as of August 2008, seasonally adjusted
*GDP price deflator
Sources: Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, US Department of Commerce
Monetary base 350
Bank credit 99
Money supply 135
Inflation rate* +1,26%
%, annual change
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International Investors’ Holdings of Emerging Market Local Debt has accelerated until mid year 2013 A structural trend behind the Fed’s quantitative easing programme
Source: Emerging Advisors Group, at 10/06/2013
Equities
Local debt
Foreign debt vs. equity portfolio
International investors’ holdings of emerging market local debt are
approaching those of equities
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Has QE Tapering Now Been Factored In ?
Source: EPFR, SG Cross Asset Research/Global Asset Allocation
Net flows into EM bonds funds Net flows into EM Equity funds
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A stronger correlation between Emerging Asset classes than in 2008
Source : Bloomberg , data unhedged EUR
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MSCI Emerging Markets JP Morgan GBI-EM Global Diversified Composite Index
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Emerging countries
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Emerging countries with Current Account Deficits are Vulnerable
Source : Credit Suisse, July 2013.
2013e Current Account Balance, % of GDP
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Mexico
Poland
Indonesia
Turkey
China
Hungary
South Korea
Russia Philippines
Thailand
Brazil India
South Africa
Currency performance / Current Account balance
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Fundamentals in Emerging Markets are Stronger Now than in 1997
Source: Bloomberg, August 2013
12.5%
16.6%
42.9%
116.2%
16.7%
12.0%
30.2%
46.3%
25.6%
47.8%
3.3%
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13.3%
46.1%
7.7%
8.0%
16.0%
19.9%
5.0%
18.4%
South Africa
Brazil
China
Hong Kong
India
Indonesia
Israël
Malaisia
Russia
Thaïland
July 1997 May 2013
China
Indonésia
South Korea
Malaisia
Philippines
Taïwan
Thaïland
Share of Hard Currency debt (% of total debt outstanding)
1995-96 (average) 1997 2006-07 (average)
2012
Higher FX reserve coverage of imports and short term debt
More debt issued in local currency as a percentage of total debt
FX rates are more flexible
FX reserve as a percentage of GDP
Source: BIS, CEIC, Citi Research, August 2013.
Please note that the figure for Brazil is not available for July 1997.
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We are not in 1997
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China
Source :
Risk of NPLs rise with higher debt, diminishing marginal benefits to growth/profits of borrowing the higher debt goes
Liquidity risks increase with rising LTD, incentives for off balance sheet lending and shadow banking grow
Loans to Deposits %
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DP
% Taïwan
Hong-Kong
Singapore
Philippines
Indonesia
Thailand
Malaysia
Korea
China
Korea
Korea
Singapore
Indonesia
Indonesia
Philippines Philippines
Migration path
India
India India
Thailand
China
China
Taïwan
Hong-Kong Singapore
Taïwan Hong-Kong
Malaysia
Malaysia
Latest 1997 2007
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49.6
49.8
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China : Some Signs of Resilience to Emerging Markets Turmoil
Source : Bloomberg, août 2013.
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13000 Hang Seng China Entreprise Index Chinese manufacturing PMI
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Emerging markets are 2 standard deviations cheap on trend versus developed markets
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Source: Bloomberg, 27/08/2013
*MSCI Emerging Markets vs MSCI World
Premium
Discount
Price/trailing book value Emerging Markets vs Developed Markets
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DevelopedMarkets
EmergingMarkets
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DevelopedMarkets
EmergingMarkets
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DevelopedMarkets
EmergingMarkets
Emerging Markets vs. Developed Markets
Source: Carmignac Gestion, May 2013
Low Levels of Public Debt
Lower Private Debt
Stronger Potential Growth
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1.00%
2.00%
3.00%
4.00%
5.00%
6.00%
7.00%
3,58%
Fundamentals: Emerging Countries Experiencing Stable Inflation
Source : Carmignac Gestion, April 2013
Global inflation in Emerging markets
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Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine
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Bonds
Min 50%
Currencies
Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine: Our diversified emerging market Fund
Interest rate risk
-4 +10
A broad modified duration range
Equity risk
0% 50%
Flexible equity exposure
•Government and corporate bonds denominated in local and global currencies (USD, EUR, etc.)
• Thematic approach
• Large cap bias
Take advantage of the appreciation or protect
against the depreciation of currencies
Equities
Max 50%
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Process is Both Top-Down and Bottom-Up
MACRO / THEMATIC VIEWS FORMED BY: Close interaction with cross-asset and fixed income teams
Daily investment meeting with whole team Scheduled meetings as well as constant interaction Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine as a cross-asset fund
Access to independent macro analysis Subscription to a wide array of independent macro expertise
MICRO / BOTTOM-UP VIEWS FORMED BY: Close interaction with sector specific analysts
Formal monthly sector meetings “dual coverage” of major parts of our universe
EM team analyst coverage Analyst responsibility is geographic ‘Maintenance’ coverage rejected in favour of idea generation Access to alternative information sources : GLG etc
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Global management of derivatives strategies feeding upon each fund manager's expertise
SIMON PICKARD Equity market and equity derivatives
strategy
CHARLES ZERAH Bond, modified duration and global currency
exposure strategies
FRÉDÉRIC LEROUX Global macroeconomic input Choice of market-timing Determination of the best derivatives
instruments
STRATEGIES TO PROTECT THE PORTFOLIO OR TO INCREASE MARKET EXPOSURE ARE
DISCRETIONARY
COLLECTIVE DECISION MAKING PROCESS
Market risk identification and monitoring
Determine hedging strategies and market exposure adjustments
Instruments Market timing
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The Emerging markets team
Head of emerging markets team – portfolio manager
Joined Carmignac Gestion in 2000
SIMON PICKARD 21 years experience
Co-portfolio manager of Carmignac Emerging Discovery
Covers Latin America Joined Carmignac Gestion in 2008
Co-portfolio manager of Carmignac Emerging Discovery
Covers Asia ex-Greater China Joined Carmignac Gestion in 2007
Analyst Covers Greater China Joined Carmignac Gestion in 2011
XAVIER HOVASSE 14 years experience
DAVID YOUNG PARK 9 years experience
HAIYAN LI-LABBÉ 13 years experience
Analyst Covers Eastern Europe, Middle East
and Africa (EMEA) Joined Carmignac Gestion in 2013
EDWARD COLE 12 years experience
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A “Small” Team and Low Turnover Means a Big Commitment to On-The-Ground Research
JANUARY FEBRUARY MARCH APRIL MAY JUNE 1 China 2 3
China 4 South Africa Taiwan
5 6 7 Democratic
Republic of Congo
8 UAE
UAE, Qatar
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10 Singapore
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Nigeria
12 Singapore
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China
14 China
UAE, Saudi
Arabia
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Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam
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17 China
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India
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Mexico
20 Russia
Turkey
21 India Thailand
22 China Russia
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24 Liberia
Singapore South Korea, Taiwan
25 India
China Brazil
Taiwan, South Korea
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Thailand, Philippines
China
China 29
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David Park
Xavier Hovasse
Haiyan Li-Labbé
David Field
Simon Pickard
Simon Lovat
Antoine Colonna
Matthew Williams
Tim Jaksland
Fund Managers
Analysts
Edward Cole
Edouard Carmignac
Pierre Verlé
Carlos Galvis
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Eastern Europe and Middle East 8.7 4.6
What did we do?
Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine : Equity part
Source: Carmignac Gestion
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Major economies 15.2 17.0
China/Hong Kong/Macao Of which Chinese domestic stocks Brazil India
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Future large economies
Of which
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3.3 1.5 1.7
Mexico Turkey Indonesia
Export-based economies South Korea/Taiwan
Pan-African stocks
3.8 3.7
3.7 2.8
23/08/2013 Geographic breakdown as % 22/05/2013
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What did we do?
Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine : Equity part
Source: Carmignac Gestion, 23/08/2013
Consumer goods / food retail 10.5
Internet and Smartphones
Finance
12.4
Leisure and automobiles 4.8
Energy, materials and gold 3.8
Industrials 0.8
Equity thematic breakdown as %
9.7
8.4
6.4
4.6
0.9
22/05/2013 23/08/2013
10.7 12.0
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Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine: An Active Management of Equity Market Exposure
Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Performances may vary over time.
Source: Carmignac Gestion, 31/07/2013
Equ
ity
Exp
osu
re (
%)
Change in equity market exposure
Intervention by Mario Draghi
Maximum exposure
Chinese macroeconomic data starting to improve
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0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
Equities Bonds Cash
39.7%
60.0%
0.4%
43.2%
51.4%
5.4%
29/03/2013 31/07/2013
Positioning of the Portfolio
Source: Carmignac Gestion, 31/07/2013
Asset allocation
At 06/09/2013
Equity exposure: 35.6%
Modified duration: 0.13
Cash: 5.44%
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What did we do?
Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine: Bond part
Our interest rate strategies: 1. Reduction in modified duration 2. Tactical short positions on US
Treasuries 3. Short positions on Korean
interest rates
*50% JP Morgan GBI-EM Global Diversified Composite Unhedged (EUR) + 50% MSCI EM NR (EUR)
Source: Carmignac Gestion, 26/08/2013
Geographic breakdown of modified duration (basis points)
Modified duration: Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine: 0.0 (vs. 7,0 on 22/05/2013)
Reference indicator*: 4.6 (vs. 4.9 on 22/05/2013)
United States -215.1
Mexico 65.5
Colombia 6.4
Peru 6.1
Chile 17.2
Brazil 6.3
Israel 3.9
Poland 31.9
Thailand 10.6
Russia 44.2
South Korea -23.2
Philippines 35.0
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What did we do?
Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine: Currencies
(1) 50% JP Morgan GBI-EM Global Diversified Composite Unhedged (EUR) + 50% MSCI EM NR (EUR)
(2) Including the HKD
Source: Carmignac Gestion, 26/08/2013
DEVELOPED COUNTRIES
26/08/2013 Delta versus
reference indicator(1)
USD(2) 41.0% +30.3%
Euro 50.5% +50.5%
Other 0.4% -
Total 91.9% -
EMERGING COUNTRIES
26/08/2013 Delta versus
reference indicator(1)
EMOA -0.2% -22.1%
Latin America 5.6% -17.0%
Asia 2.7% -31.8%
Total 8.1%
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What did we do?
Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine: Asset Allocation and Equity Exposure
Source: Carmignac Gestion, 22/08/2013
23/05/2013 22/08/2013
Equity Exposure 47.9% 25.1%
Equities 42.1% 42.5%
Bonds 55.7% 48.7%
Cash 2.2% 8.8%
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Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine: Performance since Inception
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80
85
90
95
100
105
110
115
120
Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Performances may vary over time. Source: Morningstar, Carmignac Gestion, 26/08/2013 Base 100: 31/03/2011
Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine
A EUR acc -2.56%
Reference indicator*
-3.99%
MSCI Emerging Markets -13.84%
*50% JP Morgan GBI-EM Global Diversified Composite Unhedged (EUR) + 50% MSCI EM NR (EUR) .
52-week volatility
Fund: 9.39%
Reference indicator*: 10.88%
Performance since inception (31 March 2011)
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Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine: a«Patrimonial» Fund
Source: Morningstar, from 01/04/2011 to 31/07/2013
*Global Emerging Markets Allocation
Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine A EUR acc
CEMP Peers Class Average*
Global Emerging Markets Bond - Local
Currency
Global Emerging Markets Equity
-8%
-6%
-4%
-2%
0%
2%
4%
6%
8%
6% 7% 8% 9% 10% 11% 12% 13% 14% 15% 16%
Carmignac Emerging Patrimoine vs. Morningstar Class Averages
Perf
orm
ance
Volatility
Higher Performance
With a lower volatility
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EM risk and opportunities
Global growth
Liquidity
Deflation forces Lower default risk Healthier balance sheet
Domestic demand led growth Attractive valuation
EM risk
EM opportunities
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Global management of derivatives strategies feeding upon each fund manager's expertise
SIMON PICKARD Equity market and equity derivatives
strategy
CHARLES ZERAH Bond, modified duration and global currency
exposure strategies
FRÉDÉRIC LEROUX Global macroeconomic input Choice of market-timing Determination of the best derivatives
instruments
STRATEGIES TO PROTECT THE PORTFOLIO OR TO INCREASE MARKET EXPOSURE ARE
DISCRETIONARY
COLLECTIVE DECISION MAKING PROCESS
Market risk identification and monitoring
Determine hedging strategies and market exposure adjustments
Instruments Market timing
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Simon PICKARD
2008 Carmignac Gestion
2005 - 2008 Argos Investment Managers, Genève ─ Fund Manager, PAN-European equities
2000 - 2005 Carmignac Gestion, Paris ─ Fund Manager, PAN-European equities
2000 CFA Charterholder
1996 - 2000 Jupiter Asset Management, Londres ─ Fund Manager, eastern European equities
1992 - 1996 John Swire & Sons, Hong Kong ─ International Executive
1992 Master of Arts - Trinity College, Cambridge
Head of Emerging Equities
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Charles ZERAH
2010 Carmignac Gestion
2004 - 2009 Credit Agricole Asset Management, London ─ Head of Emerging Market bonds
1999 - 2004 Crédit Lyonnais Asset Management, Paris ─ Senior fund manager : Emerging Market bonds
1995 - 1999 Axa Investment Managers, Paris ─ Junior fund manager : Emerging Market bonds
1995 Master in Banking and Finance DESS in Finance, University of Paris II Panthéon Assas
Fund Manager ─ Global Bonds
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Frédéric LEROUX
2003 Carmignac Gestion
2001 - 2003 BNP Paribas Equities and HSBC CCF Securities, ─ Consulting for equity market derivative strategies with institutional clients.
1997 - 2000 KHEOPS Finance SA ─ Founder and Chairman. Creation and management of a FCIMT open-ended fund
1995 - 1997 Carmignac Gestion ─ Portfolio manager, derivatives and risk management
1989 - 1994 Cava Finance and Banque Scalbert-Dupont, Portfolio manager
1988 Graduate from Institut d'Economie Scientifique et de Gestion (IESEG) in Lille
Global Fund Manager
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