I. Call to OrderA. President: Armando Figueroa B. Vice President: Maxwell Kappes C. Senate President Pro Tempore: Robyn HueyD. Senator: Artem Senchev E. Senator: Nicholas Sanchez F. Senator: Andrea Velazquez G. Senator: Azka Fayyaz H. Senator: Amelia Helland I. Senator: Eugenia Chung J. Senator: Anabiah Syed K. Senator: Roman Rivilis L. Senator: Reem Fatayerji M. Senator: Casey NguyenN. Senator: Alex LeeO. ECAC Chair Nilofer ChollampatP. EPPC Chair Marissa Ayala Q. IAC Chair Nathan Bentham R. EAC Chair Abire Sabbagh S. AAC Chair Allan BachT. GASC Chair Ivon Garcia U. B&F Joanna Jaroszewska V. Outreach Assembly Lauren Ashe W. Controller: Rylan Schaeffer

II. Quorum Roll CallIII. Appointments and Confirmations

A. Ethnic and Cultural Affairs – 7:07a. Nguyen – any projects you’d like to work with ECAC on?

i. Alexis Chavez – New food, exposing people to new culturesii. Ricardo Martinez – I don’t know any of the programs ECAC does, but some

would be implementing some workshops to cater to the community, create a space for them.

iii. Setarah Jahid – Open Mic idea, natural way for everyone to connectiv. Sean Guerra – Integrating expression, spoken word or something like that,

advocating those kinds of platformsb. Fayyaz – What is social justice and what do you do for it?

i. Alexis Chavez – Taking into consideration people’s histories, considering oppression of dominant culture. Take those things into consideration for education and jobs, not defined by race. If there’s an injustice, we should adjust it.

ii. Ricardo Martinez – Advocacy, activism.iii. Setarah Jahid – Equality for each group, each group has gone through

different experiences and have different milestones for equality. I’ve gone to protests, being open, letting your peers know.

iv. Sean Guerra – Equal opportunity to express yourself, open expression for all. Worked with the Aggie for a bit, undertook undocumented students issues.

c. Huey – What are issues you see underrepresented students of color going through, and how can ECAC help?

i. Alexis Chavezii. Ricardo Martinez – Getting more along with the faculty, trouble connecting

with them. Another issue is money. iii. Setarah Jahidiv. Sean Guerra – Hispanic institute, funds. Orientation reference. Ethnicity not

represented or advocated for during orientation. d. Helland – What makes you particularly interested/passionate about ECAC?

i. Alexis Chavez – Something that drove me to apply was when we’re bundled into this we’re all equal sort of thing, coming from South Central Los Angeles, saw income divide. And now that we’re in UC Davis, I disagree with the idea that we’re all equal. And I want to combat that idea

ii. Ricardo Martinez – I wanted to join because it’s really difficult to see everyone in a different state of mind, everyone against each other. We’re all students, striving for success, and it’s sad to see that, so I wanted to make a difference.

iii. Setarah Jahid – I think, growing up as a minority and being friends with minorities and hearing what they go through, I applied for the position because I’m tired of waiting for others to change it. Being involved with people who make these decisions for those who don’t have a voice is very important.

iv. Sean Guerra – So many instances when we can be blind to different narratives and privileges that are hidden, calling that out is really important and why I wanted to get involved was because of intersectionality, there’s a lot to bridge.

e. ConfirmedIV. Unit Director ReportsV. Committee Reports – 6:32

A. Huey – Champagne Award, marketing it with Creative Media. Nominations due by week 6. Champagne meeting tomorrow for the details.

B. Fayyaz – Max is gonna send you all the Promise for Education scholarship email. Send it out to everyone so we can get a lot of applications. International Undergraduate Student Committee resolution to ask administration to open up an International Student Lounge. If you have questions, please reach out to me or other co-authors.

C. Huey – Renovations/Constructions Committee launched their Facebook page. SHAWC finished interviews yesterday.

VI. PresentationsA. Campus Council – 6:19

a. Kiersten Stevenson – Inviting your participation in an outside assessment conducted next week about Title 9 program. Making sure that we’re not only meeting minimal

legal obligations but also serving campus in the best way possible. This is a higher-level review about practices, making sure there are no holes. Interested in any perspective, if you would like to meet directly with the reviewing team, they’ll be here on campus next week. Encourage any groups that have the ability, we preserve some blocks of time to talk with students directly.

VII. Public Announcements – 6:27A. Schaeffer – Put in a repair request to get lights fixed.B. Velazquez – One-day unfair labor practice strike, represent mental healthcare workers on

Jan 27th

C. Kappes – Greg Ortiz email. Next Thursday from 6-8 is Open Mic Night. Senate will be held in Mee room from 6-8, then move to SOSCSCI. Need 2 senators on board for lunch with UCD.

D. Public Discussiona. Kapur – Can people in ASUCD make sure that’s publicly posted? b. Huey – Harley’s doing his presentation.c. Kapur – The presentation next week is not about UCSA, it’s about restructuring

ASUCD. d. Figueroa – The BC I promised you all next week, I’ll be postponing that. Janice is

trying to set things up where Milton comes and talks to us again. 5 pm before Senate.

e. Lee – Could you suggest to Harley to postpone that talk?f. Figueroa – If we see it as a big issue next week, it will likely be postponed.

E. Kapur – SFAAC/CURB is meeting again tomorrow in ARC Meeting Room 1 about the consolidation that’s supposed to happen, 11:30-1

VIII. Status of Legislation Previously Passed – 6:38IX. Introduction of New Legislation – 6:22

A. Urge admin and student affairs to accept proposed international students lounge at UC Davis

B. Distinguish between present and absent abstentions C. Urging board of regents of UC to undertake practices of corporate social responsibility

through divesting from corporations that aid in the Israeli occupation of Palestine & illegal settlements in Palestinian territories, violating both international humanitarian law and international human rights.

X. Consideration of Old LegislationA. SB #28 – 7:58

a. Schaeffer – This might need to be postponed a quarter, to be honest. The idea is this: other UCs have student fees to throw large musical festivals. This is to fund a large festival once a year.

b. Commission Recommendationsi. B&F – It would be cool to let the students vote on this. I don’t know how

feasible it will be, but yeah, people are interested, it would be good to give them an option to vote on this.

ii. EAC – It would be cool to have the same sort of large concerts that other UCs have. We do want to keep in mind the Davis community, and our

commission wants to be involved in the process if this goes on. But we did pass this.

c. Questions in Textd. Public Discussion

i. Helland – I just wanted to know why you thought…ii. Schaeffer – I’m bringing it forward right now because if you throw an idea at

Senate last minute, they’ll panic. In order to have a thing for students to vote on, it needs to be approved by Senate by week 4. We don’t have approval from Campus Council and Adela. This bill might be missing two things: lacking specifics on ticketing, and tier-ing. More choice on how much students would pay each quarter for this event. Doesn’t matter if it passes this quarter because regents still have to approve it during the summer.

iii. Fatayerji – In regards to this quarter/next quarter, if it goes on this ballot, Alexis and her crew can start now. If the ballot isn’t until next election…

iv. Helland – I think that it would be probably better in terms of turnout. It’s interesting to think of the various options.

v. Nguyen – Is there a certain voter turnout you need?vi. Schaeffer – Yes, but I’m strongly confident about not being worried about

voter turnout based on the other fee initiatives. vii. Helland – I was just wondering if the number B&F recommended was

accounting for insurance.viii. Schaeffer – I think it might be a little premature for this bill.

ix. Helland – Do you think it would be better to vote no or table?x. Schaeffer – Table it and test the other fee initiatives out.

xi. Chung – Question about tier-ing, if someone votes 3 dollars and the majority votes 7, then will that 3-dollar person have to pay 7?

xii. Schaeffer – The lowest point at which 60% of the students voted yes.xiii. Chung – Student fees are a certain number, but only 8 dollars get allocated

to student government, and that’s the same as this.xiv. Kappes – Consolidate Entertainment Council fees. Lockbox for EC, freeing up

money for other units. Weighing options for attaining fees.xv. Sanchez – I don’t think squeezing it in this quarter should be because it

might not pass next quarter. If people really want it, they’ll vote yes.xvi. Chung – Save the Aggie didn’t get enough voter turnout, so more time is

better for planning.xvii. Rivilis – Say you get the 20%, but no one option gets 60% of the voters.

xviii. Schaeffer – There’s an assumption that if you vote for 6, you’ll be willing to pay for less. So the lowest point for 60%. The reason why I did bring it forward was because if you have questions, I can research the answers.

e. Divide the House on tabling indefinitely – 9-1-2i. Fayyaz – Wanted to ask about approval from other bureaucracies. Can’t get

those approved until after we passed this?ii. Schaeffer – Not clear.

iii. Kapur – Tradition is that Senate passes it, then goes to Chancellor of student affairs. Would make the most sense for you guys to talk to them for the rest of the quarter, and then vote it week 2 or 3 of spring quarter.

iv. Fatayerji – At B&F meeting, they made it clear that tiering is not a good option. Students will always choose the lesser option.

v. Schaeffer – Your point is correct. Make it clear on the voting ballot, with the proper language you can avoid the problem.

vi. Fatayerji – We all basically agree on this bill. If we don’t let this come on winter quarter, then it might not pass in spring. And EC this quarter is ready to go. Winter quarter historically gets more voters than spring. I’m not willing to risk it.

vii. Fayyaz – One, you’re going to find out the timeline about approval. Second, the language for passing in terms of process that’s involved, I’m not sure of how it works.

viii. Schaeffer – If the language changes, then it’ll be sent back to Senate, but what I don’t know is that if they do send it back, do we still have to approve it by week 4.

ix. Sanchez – I don’t think the argument about getting it passed this quarter is important because it might not next quarter isn’t a good reason.

x. Chung – During Save the Aggie, we had 2 full slates running, 3 presidential candidates. They had plenty of time to prepare and we still didn’t make voter turnout. Giving more time would be more beneficial.

xi. Kapur – TGIF is the fee initiative. I think it’s a good idea to push it back to spring because it’s going to be binding, you want to take your time.

xii. Helland – Yes, multiple referendums on one ballot would increase voter turnout. However, it is important to consider that when they see these numbers, I feel like a lot of people would vote no on all of them.

xiii. Kapur – Burden of that falls on how well the fee initiatives are written, and how much they’re asking for considering the other things going on. A good fee initiative failing is better than a bad one passing.

xiv. Fatayerji – I see where you guys are coming from, but I want to highlight what Helland was saying. It’s not like we’re catering to when they’re going to pass, but if the voters are going to be there, they should see this bill. Maybe the Aggie didn’t pass because it didn’t need to pass. If we wait, there’s a chance it might not get the turnout in the spring, and we’re going to have to wait for fall.

xv. Kapur – A bad fee initiative passing is worse than a good fee initiative failing.xvi. Helland – The Aggie passed by popular vote right? It didn’t? Reem

misconstrued what I was implying when I said it might fail, I meant all the initiatives might fail. I don’t think it’s a good idea to put it on this quarter’s ballot if the specifics aren’t completely worked out. If it does pass, we’re just charging students money for something that might not work.

xvii. Nguyen – I think that waiting until spring would be best. With the time, we can smooth out the wording. We’re starting to go into circles again. Having that time would let us have a solid bill.

f. Senate Discussioni. Helland – I did conduct a survey and sent it out to a significant portion of

the undergraduate population about changing any fee referendum. Overwhelmingly, people were not supportive of a 0-5 dollar increase.

ii. Kapur – When was this survey conducted?iii. Helland – Last spring.

g. Move to table this billB. SB #30 Enverga – 7:43

a. Megan Verga – SOSC. Spending bill to fund SOSC. b. B&F – We need to see quotes to pass a spending bill. Urge table to send it back. c. Questions in Textd. Public Discussion

i. Ashe – That week didn’t have formal quotes. They decided to pass the bill because they could find some quotes online. I do have what I view as appropriate quotes tonight, if you do want to see that. I urge the table to look at them and not send it back to B&F. I worry that another week is going to hinder their progress.

ii. Sanchez – How urgent is it for this bill to pass?iii. Megan – We need this bill right now. We need the incentives… we need

everything.iv. Lee – We do need this urgently because this special committee is going to

expire in May. The faster they have an operating budget, the sooner they can get to work. Circulating are 8 letters from different orgs supporting this bill.

v. Helland – It would be reasonable to postpone until we get quotes because B&F does need quotes, you’re still going to need to write them. I don’t want to pass something without B&F actually looking at it. You can still talk to student orgs and let them know changes are happening.

vi. Ashe – I have the quotes now. I can distribute them to the table. B&F did look at most of them, just informally.

vii. Kapur – Divide the house on re-referring it to B&F. 1. 3-7-2

viii. Schaeffer – The bylaws state that to pass a spending bill, it needs quotes, and this bill doesn’t have quotes. The reason why we have quotes is that B&F needs to make sure that those estimates are correct. Quotes show evidence. Informal quotes are not good enough. You could suspend the bylaws, but I just want B&F commissioners to understand their role in their situation.

ix. Helland – That was very reasonable. Especially considering there are so many new commissioners, this isn’t done right. I do think it is important to send it back to B&F.

1. 9-2-1e. Senate Discussion

i. Fatayerji – I think that you guys gave a great presentation, and that your quotes were present, but the fact that they weren’t in the actual presentation, I don’t want this bill to not be valid just because of a mistake. I don’t want you to get it nullified just because a misunderstanding. But you guys did do a good presentation.

f. Re-refer to B&FC. SB #32 Schaeffer – 6:42

a. Schaeffer – Take 3 positions and consolidate them into 1. i. B&F – passed

b. Questions in Textc. Public Discussion

i. Bach – Same pay?ii. Schaeffer – Yeah.

iii. Chung – When will this take effect?iv. Schaeffer – As soon as president signs it. v. Chung – I don’t think it’s fair to just fire them.

vi. Schaeffer – They’re not doing anything. There’s nothing for them to do. We don’t need a 2-week notice.

vii. Chung – I’m not fighting you about them not doing anything, but I just don’t think it’s fair to tell them, “Hey by the way, no job for you.”

viii. Rivilis – This person sends emails. A volunteer could send emails.ix. Nguyen – Can we amend the bill to account for a one-week notice?x. Rivilis – The cut positions will be given a (1) week notice on their

termination. xi. Chung – Also can we have a new section that has the new position on it, and

the pay rate and the # of weeks? xii. Kappes – The point is that we’re removing 2 assistants and keeping 1. So

there’s no name change. xiii. Chung – Rename position as executive assistant to president, add details.

d. Senate Discussioni. Helland – Divide the house on the one-week notice about whether it’s

necessary. 1. 9-2-1

e. PassedXI. Ex-Officio Reports

A. Jaroszewskaa. Sick, missed meetingb. Discussed unit audits over email with Rylanc. Plan on having weekly meetings with Rylan to review auditsd. Sat on CAC interviews on Fri

B. Ashea. Held meeting this week

b. Met with Ivan about Will You be my Aggie eventc. Met with Roman about ASUCD Outreachd. B&F for bille. Talked with Robyn and Aggie Reserve Guidef. Held OA interviewsg. We’re having a Valentine’s Day event on 2/11

C. Sabbagha. Planned for Davis Volunteer & Service Fair – Booked quad, contacted over 40 orgsb. No legislationc. Sat in on SHAWC interviews

D. Garciaa. Emailed Chaz (from LGBTQIA Resource Center) regarding GASC doing something for

PRIDE weekb. Emailed Amy Krutzland regarding the lack of all-gender restroomsc. Had interviews: GASC & SHAWCd. Scheduled more interviews for GASC for next week

E. Ayalaa. Sat down with City of Davis conservation coordinator, Jennifer Gilbert

i. Informative meeting, she is extremely knowledgeableii. Told me about some new initiatives/changes the city will be doing

iii. Expanding composting service, starting to pick up compost from local businesses, so businesses will be given a large 65 gallon bin that will be picked up 2 times a week (all of this will help Davis towards our goal of 75% waste diversion, this is about an 18-month project)

iv. We also discussed further our involvement with a polystyrene ban for city of Davis

b. Held office hours Wednesday from 10-2c. Talked about getting red cup cleanup back on its feet and utilizing that resource

F. Bacha. No meeting this week due to holidayb. Sat on ECAC interviewsc. Held office hoursd. Met with Undergraduate Research Advisor to work on her fair in springe. Attended Senate Meetingsf. Met with Rylan to discuss structure of AAC

G. Schaeffera. Aggie TV proposal – Aggie Studiob. Aggie Reuse Interim Directorc. Met with Campus Counseld. B&F – Billse. Met with Anthonyf. Met with Daring. TB24 Meetingh. Met with Harley

i. Shehzad’s Campus Debatej. KDVS Radio Showk. Met with Jazminl. Met with Sherim. Met with Rhodan. Met with Jessicao. Met with COCIp. Microsoft Interview

XII. Elected Officer Reportsa. Fatayerji

i. Weekend – Chicoii. T/TH – held office hours in CoHo

iii. T – Went to B&Fiv. Contacted RAC to assign committee meetings for the quarter

b. Rivilisi. Mon – Met with Paul Medved

ii. Tues – EACiii. Wed – Spoke on panel about disabilities, office hoursiv. Thurs – Attorney General interviews

c. Chungi. Office hours T, W, TH

ii. Talked to Gregiii. ECAC interviews Friday

d. Nguyeni. Picnic Day 2015 board meeting

ii. Meeting with Janiceiii. Selected staffiv. Held office hours in SRRC

e. Hellandi. Fri – Chancellor’s SA Student Advisory Committee Meeting

ii. 2 House shows over weekend, went to friend’s cabin on one of the nightsiii. Wed – KDVS LRP core-staff/PAB meetingiv. Thurs – Meeting with Chief of Staff, meeting with volunteer staff

f. Kappesi. B&F – had a bill

ii. OA interviewiii. Scholarship stuffiv. Fiscal bills & meetingsv. Met with Darrin & Alexis about Open Mic Night

vi. Hopscotch Day, unsurprisingly, failedvii. Shot the shit with Greg Ortiz

viii. Outsourced work to peopleix. Actually wrote a list of stuff I had to do

x. Met with CSI about SOSC, Scholarship, and some other things I can’t remember

xi. Honestly other shit I can’t rememberxii. Planning death match between mine & Armando’s assistant

xiii. Housing Day stuffg. Huey

i. Fri – Met with Sam, SHAWC chair, to talk about plans for committeeii. Tues – Student-run courses meeting

iii. Wed – SHAWC interviews & office hoursiv. Thurs – CCE meeting

h. Syedi. GASC interview

ii. PSA Banquet stuffiii. Scheduled meeting with APAC chair & RROC chairiv. ECAC interviewsv. Met with Azka

i. Fayyazi. Intern meeting

ii. Meeting with Anabiahiii. Office hoursiv. Max meeting (13 minutes)v. Meeting with Vania’s orgs to discuss circulation of pantry + ASUCD promise

scholarshipj. Sanchez

i. Scheduled meeting with Orientationii. Scheduled meeting with interns

k. Velazquezi. GASC interviews

ii. Juvenile Review Board for Yolo County Probation Officeiii. Looking for internsiv. Meetings

l. Leei. Met with CCCNPO Unit Director, unit tour

ii. Held office hours, all 4 hours at onceiii. OA interviewsiv. B&F Commission

XIII. New Student Court Cases/Prior WeeksVerdicts/ASUCD Court Announcements

XIV. Closed SessionXV. Approval of Past Meeting Minutes – 11:08XVI. Public Discussion

A. Money Matters – 10:13a. Schaeffer – This conversation has both general and specific. We have a retreat on

Saturday. How to make money, and how to save money. Typically, some of our units

are good at making money, some are good at losing. And ASUCD is part of the second category. Prioritization based on values. We should have a discussion on purpose of association.

b. Tall – Specify what about Cal Aggie Camp?c. Schaeffer – I’m trying to remove the ASUCD subsidy.d. Tall – You need to suspend a bylaw to have this conversation because of

grants/general programs – Oh well, the idea about the bill still stands. Budget was approved right away. Now, to all of a sudden, to have a conversation in between budget hearings about cutting the unit, is unfair. I want to point out that I was the one to point out this conversation was even happening. Unit doesn’t even have an adopted senator yet. If I hadn’t found out this conversation was happening, no one from Cal Aggie Camp would have been here. This whole conversation is just really really unfair. Not a good look for Senate if they’re discussing cutting a unit like this.

e. Schaeffer – Why having the conversation now, not at a budget hearing? Cal Aggie Camp happens between budget hearings, so if you wanted to have a conversation so close to the event, everyone would be screwed over. It’s very different from every other unit. Another point is that this conversation is not about cutting Cal Aggie Camp, just its subsidy. Unit director was not contacted because this is not a bill.

f. Tall – The way CAC works, 50 cents per quarter, 37k dollars covers 1 week of camp, ASUCD pays an amount near the amount from student fees. If you were to cut ASUCD’s subsidy, you’d cut CAC. We would only be able to provide 1 week of camp. First week of camp is one age group, 5-12, then 13-17. You’re not cutting one kid’s experience in half, you’re cutting half of the kids who are getting the experience. I think it’s a great thing that ASUCD provides this subsidy. There’s no other camp that provides any kind of experience for foster children. It’s a valuable experience to serve as a counselor, especially with foster children. It’s great that ASUCD has a philanthropy giving back to the community. I know that money is really tight, but out of 11 million, we’re talking about 37k that already exists. We already made it clear that time period was different. It’s a structural thing, camp can’t happen during the year. I don’t know why we have to suffer because of a structural issue. Cal Aggie Camp has existed since 1970’s, Senate has made changes, don’t know why we should make so many changes now out of nowhere in between budget hearings.

g. Helland – I understand why this program is important. But I do think it is important to note that there has been efforts to change the structure, it doesn’t seem to me like the unit has made any effort towards fundraising.

h. Tall – No chance for unit director to come and explain. I don’t understand why the first conversation has to be about being taking away the ASUCD subsidy.

i. Jenny – We already cut from 120 kids to 60, and took a day out of camp. j. Kapur – Why this discussion is happening now is because ASUCD is broken.

Financially and institutionally. It’s been getting worse since I’ve been here. This is why we’re bringing the discussion here. Explain why it’s not possible to have the age ranges merged.

k. Tall – Many reasons. There’s a lot to it. We can’t merge. I understand that Senate is broken, we made cuts to help with the deficit. I don’t know why the burden has to come back on us.

l. Kapur – Prioritization. We’re not saying you don’t have merit, but should more student fees go towards advocacy or a camp? Regardless the budget cycle, there are too many things going on during budget cycles. It’s better to have the conversations during the months in between.

m. Tall – I get that, but this isn’t the way to do it. When was the first time you met with Olivia about her budget, Rylan? This discussion could happen during the months. But to have a discussion about cutting a unit.

n. Schaeffer – This conversation is not about Cal Aggie Camp. I want to discuss right now the motivation behind cutting the subsidy behind Cal Aggie Camp. The point I want to make here is that I believe undergraduate student funding is more important. If we look across this association, everyone is bleeding. We’re going to have to make cuts, and they’re going to be painful. If we’re going to make a choice, I think the right decision is to say that undergraduates are more important to us. I care about ASUCD, you have to take care of yourself first. We don’t use the TRS because we’re not getting paid enough. We’re going to help other people while ASUCD students aren’t getting paid enough. I believe we exist to serve the undergraduate population first.

o. Tall – I get we don’t have the discussion now. But is there anything you can entertain about not introducing that bill? I don’t know why you say this doesn’t benefit undergraduate students. All of our staff are undergraduate students. Creates jobs. Just because we’re helping others doesn’t mean we’re not helping ourselves. I wouldn’t be here if it didn’t help undergraduates.

p. Jenny – Every time during budget hearings, no one asks the right questions. q. Lee – I would like to bring it back to say it’s Senate’s decision…r. Tall – Can we divide the house on whether you want to see a bill about cutting the

subsidy?s. Kapur – What would you want us to do to talk about before the bill is presented?t. Tall – It’s the duty of the Senate to do its unit justice. I can propose things but I don’t

know what helps. What are people’s concerns?u. Sanchez – It’s a really good conversation to have right now, we should get away

from Cal Aggie Camp. What is ASUCD, what is our purpose? Our goals and objectives?

v. Tall – I just wanted to put it out that we didn’t put ourselves out as an example. w. Schaeffer – When I say our units should be intended for undergraduates, the issue is

how to determine if something is for undergraduates. The purpose of the unit is who it aims to benefit. We run different units with adults in order to benefit undergraduates. Units must serve undergraduates. Another example is our grant program. The point is that our units and services should benefit undergraduates primarily and principally.

x. Kappes – I could go on about this topic. We do need to restructure this conversation, it’s Money Matters, not Cal Aggie Camp. ASUCD net revenue is 6k. 2

year ago, it was about 2 million. Reserves 2 year ago was 1 million. It’s all gone. We are dangerously close to losing it all on one mistake, one reckless lawsuit. We need to figure out what direction we want to go to fill this back up and function as an association.

y. Chung – I think we should focus on a fee referendum because that’s a permanent solution. Cutting units or penny picking is a temporary solution, will drain reserves in the long run.

z. Rivilis – ASUCD is going huge, huge changes. I don’t want to steer this conversation towards a fee referendum because that’s uncertain, unsustainable. This is a general conversation we should have. We need to create a culture where people actually care about our services.

aa. Kappes – We have actually talked to admin about fees in the past, and they’re not friendly. We need their approval to levy fees on ourselves. For now, we should be talking about the scaling back, and how we can fix that later. Basing an entire budget on hypotheticals is dangerous.

bb. Rivilis – We can actually fail, the association can actually die. I want you all discuss to what steps we should take to having a sustainable revenue.

cc. Huey – Roman said a lot about what I wanted to say about finding sustainable ways to sustain our units. We can’t trust a fee referendum. My question to Cal Aggie Camp is about fundraising, finding money outside of ASUCD?

dd. CAC – We increased our fundraising from 2k to 5k in the past year. We didn’t have the culture of making money before, but now we’re making more connections with other businesses, and sponsorships. We work with others, we’re cutting stuff.

ee. Huey – Do you think the amount fundraised can reach the amount of the ASUCD subsidy?

ff. CAC – Not anytime soon. In order to get that much word of mouth, we’d have to expand.

gg. Huey – I’m just trying to think of ideas to support CAC while fixing ASUCD.hh. CAC – There’s a foundation that gave us 2k in grants, and we can look into grants,

but I don’t think that grants can fund everything. Next year, Davis is going to have a location for us. After next year, we won’t have to pay as much because UCD will provide a location for us. That’s the plan, and we’re so close to being sustainable.

ii. Kapur – You’re having a retreat this weekend on this topic. What kind of information and discussion do you want to have in the next months/weeks leading up to the budget process? You can’t do all of it at budget hearings. You need to figure out what info and discussion you need before that. What is going to come out of these next things? What you want from unit directors, what you want from exec office.

jj. Tall – I completely agree, that’s why I think there shouldn’t be a bill to cut CAC. I want you to put yourself all in Jenny’s shoes, she was blindsided by this bill. She might not have even found out if not for me.

kk. Kapur – I agree with you about the bill. But Rylan and me have a different philosophy about discussion efficiency.

ll. Chung – Back to original topic, we should focus on a fee referendum. Because if it does pass, it’s a guaranteed long-term solution. Cutting units won’t sustain itself.

We should focus on a fee referendum. The EC fund is a good way to do that. Would free up EC’s budget for us to use. Another way to get more money, even though Darren is against it, is raising CoHo prices.

mm. Kappes – There’s a problem on basing things on hypotheticals. nn. Schaeffer – Darren refuses to have his unit become a cash cow for ASUCD.oo. Kappes – Having a lockbox is dangerous. Darren won’t trust us. Which is a pity

because he’s one of the most optimistic staff members. Admin is not friendly to a fee referendum.

pp. Chung – Why don’t we put EC funds in a reserve if the fee referendum for them passes?

qq. Kapur – Because people aren’t here long enough to make long-term decisions.rr. Fatayerji – I think we’re going to be discussing money topics on Saturday. At that

moment is when we’ll be able to talk about that. Also, I value CAC, but there are other organizations that make all their money off of fundraising.

ss. Lee – I motion to divide the House on whether we should keep talking about thistt. Kappes – I’m going to talk about what we’re doing on Saturday. (Reads agenda)

B. Paid Instructor Positions – 8:40a. Schaeffer – Berkeley has a program for undergrads to teach grads for credits. We

need to have a consistent policy for paying student instructors. Fairness distribution: we need to be content neutral. Can’t choose to fund some classes and not others. We are funded by student fees. The question is: we have to come up with a policy about, “do we want to pay for classes?”

b. Friedman – CCE. Providing classes connecting education and service. Outlet for students and community members despite the hurdles we have to go through.

c. Huey – To preface, the reason why we’re talking about this is because CCE has two classes. Any students can take these classes, and the reason why we’re talking about this is because they are CRN, there are tuition fees, professors sponsor the class and CCE coordinates it. The issue is that student services fees go into ASUCD and distributed into our units and student services. CCE services are a hybrid, have ASUCD funding and tuition funding.

d. Kapur – For student-led courses, do they have to be picked up by department tuition?

e. Schaeffer – Yes.f. Rivilis – Kabir brought up the point I was going to bring up. ASUCD publicizing

courses, would you be open to that?g. Schaeffer – Not relevant. h. Rivilis – The discussion is who’s splitting the bill?i. Schaeffer – Currently, ASUCD.j. Huey – It’s for the coordinator positions.k. Schaeffer – We’re paying for only instructor fees.l. Rivilis – I was just thinking about EC and how they’re funded by commission.m. Schaeffer – But they’re different because they’re not up for credit.n. Fayyaz – What are the two sides?

o. Schaeffer – ASUCD needs to have a consistent policy. It either has to be “we’re happy to pay for student instructors” or “we’re not going to pay for any.” Can’t pick and choose what course to pay for.

p. Fayyaz – You’re interested in asking us whether we want to fund all student-led classes, or none?

q. Schaeffer – We’re starting with CS because they brought it up, will be spreading this conversation.

r. Friedman – Just to clarify, we self-advertise for all of our classes. We go to the department and ask for faculty advisor to get it on the course website. It’s easier for students if they’re linked to the course. We don’t understand why our org is being singled out for our accomplishments when there are others. We were incredibly lucky to have the resources we have. Can’t choose what is academia and what isn’t.

s. Syed – How much money goes into each class?t. Friedman – 40/week.u. Schaeffer – Senate has final say about budget. v. Syed – CS instructors want funding as well. Logistics about Berkeley program?w. Schaeffer – Students don’t get paid. They get credit. x. Syed – There’s no way to do anything like that?y. Friedman – If you’re a student leader, you can get academic transcript notation. On

your transcript, it recognizes you. z. Jaroszewska – We should maybe frame our discussion on do we think as ASUCD,

academics shouldn’t be funded by our fees. aa. Schaeffer – You can’t define frames of academics, by academics I mean a course you

take for credits. bb. Jaroszewska – Maybe we should focus on them being student-led? It sounds like this

should be talked about during budget hearings. cc. Helland – It might take more work to lead a class than take a class. If we didn’t pay

for your position, would this not happen? Would people just not organize the course?

dd. Friedman – Would be harder for people to get motivated. ee. Schaeffer – Specifically COSCI, they decide what counts for academic credit. They’ve

created a system where the students that lead get more credits, and those who take the class get credits. Only grad students, professors, etc are supposed to be paid. Technically CCE is illegal, but COSCI can’t touch them.

ff. Kapur – Just to clarify, instructors get paid by ASUCD and transcript notation, but can’t get units for teaching class?

gg. Friedman – Two coordinator positions, designated for designing of courses and getting everything for those courses. If someone wants to take a class for 2 units P/NP, they can do that. And if someone wants transcript notation for teaching, then we work that out.

hh. Kapur – If ASUCD does decide to not fund, would it possible for the classes to fall under student-led and have students teaching them get academic credits, but not fall under CCE?

ii. Friedman – It’s possible. What’s happening right now is not illegal, by the way.

jj. Kapur – The policy is paying people to teach. kk. Friedman – The funding that ASUCD is getting isn’t enough to supplement. ll. Kapur – If ASUCD changes their policy to not providing funding, the classes wouldn’t

be getting funding from ASUCD. mm. Friedman – So we’d be doing all this work without getting paid?nn. Kapur – Possibly, but getting academic credit instead.oo. Schaeffer – When should we have this conversation? Right now we have people

who are planning courses for the quarter, speaking from personal experience, everybody who is currently developing course spent their entire break developing. And they’re not getting paid. CCE is lucky to have the resources they do. Point is that we’re also doing hard work right now.

pp. Helland – If it is too much work to do without pay, perhaps while you are being paid, maybe making a specific course book, sustainable connections.

qq. Friedman – Working on a guidebook this quarter.rr. Helland – Awesome, that’s how you make a class stick around. ss. Schaeffer – I want to suggest is putting a ton of money to advertise. Making

students of other majors find classes that they’d never see otherwise.tt. Friedman – I just wanted to say that I was just here to have a voice in this process. I

want student leading to continue, and every type of opportunity for student-leading is a great one. A lot of students that have taken my class have joined the sustainable design major. It’s been difficult to even institutionalize my class because the lack of student institutionalization of student-led classes. The positions are really important for our center specifically. It would be a shame to see those positions lost just because of an economic or speculative effort.

uu. Huey – He is the leader of student-led courses.vv. Schaeffer – I did a lot of research on student-led courses. I would not say CCE has

been the first.ww. Huey – The unique aspect for ASUCD to be able to provide a stipend for student

instructors, it could set a precedent for other student opportunities. Is this something that ASUCD can work on, establishing a precedent and policy? How are we going to move forward from this?

xx. Rosaline – Our classes, community members can take them as well. We’ve had so many different people sit in. We’re providing a service. How is this any different from any other academic course?

yy. Schaeffer – The difference is that you’re the exception. You’re the only ones getting paid.

zz. Friedman – It’s ridiculous that in terms of student fees, you’re proposing an 8 dollar fee for a concert, but you’re going to police our class.

aaa. Lee – Thanks for coming and expressing your experience. The question is right now that if ASUCD should pay for all student-led CRNs?

bbb. Schaeffer – The question is we need a consistent policy.ccc. Sanchez – Are we talking about a different fee? Reallocating? Or just cutting from

CCE to make things even? ddd. Schaeffer – Yes.

eee. Nguyen – Feels like Rylan is advocating for consistency in terms of how we treat student teachers. If we do create a program, maybe set aside a fund or a grant so it’s something student teachers can apply for, equal opportunity for funding.

fff. Fayyaz – Just to summarize. The conversation is whether or not to fund all student led courses, or none. It’s not an attack on CCE or the value of the courses you teach. It’s a point of consistency in university policy. Robyn has brought up the point that ASUCD can take up the precedent of creating a stipend.

ggg. Kapur – Don’t see this as an attack on CCE. It would still be possible to have these courses exist with student teachers, even if ASUCD doesn’t fund. Also, AAVP position would be an expert on this. Remember this.

hhh. Friedman – I’m confused, I want any student leader to be compensated. We’re confused why, just because we also have student led courses, why it’s all or none.

iii. Schaeffer – Your course is being offered next quarter, and so is mine.jjj. Friedman – This should be a conversation about you requesting aid and not about us

defending it.kkk.Schaeffer – Above all else, I ask for consistency. I’m going to speak as the ASUCD

controller. At Berkeley there are 198 student courses per semester. If we have 198 just like Berkeley, $1,240 per instructor, it would be $245,520 per quarter. I don’t think ASUCD can come up with that much.

lll. Nguyen – I’m just going to propose solutions. We don’t have that much money. I’m suggesting that whatever money we can allocate, we do. A grant for student-led courses. Equal opportunity to apply.

mmm. Schaeffer – I don’t think we asked about a grant system. Rather than choosing applicants, they give everyone an amount and reduce everything by a fraction.

nnn. Rivilis – We need to be solution oriented and figure out a more innovated way.ooo. Fatayerji – What about proposing a fee initiative for you guys? If you guys are

putting so much time and effort, you deserve an equal amount of money. ppp. Rivilis – There are a lot of ideas on the table. I think we need to start figuring out

what direction we want to go. I’d like to recognize the instructors, they’re very valuable. And we should vote on a solution.

qqq. Kapur – The overarching question: student fee money for academics? rrr. Fatayerji - How are Berkeley students getting paid?sss. Kapur – They don’t. They get academic credit. Here, Rylan gets academic credit for

his class. Jessica gets paid, but no academic credit. Point is to set up a consistent policy.

ttt. Friedman – I’ve led classes for no academic credit. It varies, depends on course and department.

uuu. Schaeffer – Tuition and student fees distinction. Suppose we say student fees can be used for tuition. Tuition can be used for non-academic and student fees can be used for academic, Chancellor could make us increase student fees to pay for classes. The distinction is a check against dipping into other categories. It makes sure we get both classes and student services.

vvv.Chung – Is that what Paul was referring to for SASSEE?www. Kapur – Exactly. They cannot take our student fees.

xxx.Helland – Rylan has been a little misleading about the money. I don’t think it’s reasonable that ASUCD funds every student-led course from departments. We should definitely say that if a unit has part of its money to allocate towards a different course, then we shouldn’t discriminate against the unit. That’s consistency. Doesn’t mean we need to add money to pool of every unit. It means that if units want this, they can choose to make money for it. Saying we’re going to pay for each class makes no sense. I am totally willing to write a student teacher resolution because AAC should be talking about this to give a formal recommendation.

yyy.Kapur – The issue is the policy. zzz. Helland – So our policy is consistent. We will not disallow a unit to fund a class

under it. Put a cap on how much they can spend. aaaa. Jaroszewska – I’m really struggling with the concept of us trying to fund all

student led courses. That doesn’t mean we can just drop the ball on the ones that exist right now though. We should be transitioning. Should see how ASUCD wants to fund student academics. Student fees should not be going to academic things. The transition we can talk about, knowing that your course, Jessica, is something people are passionate about, do you think it’s possible to have students not receive units so you could still get funding?

bbbb. Friedman – Depends on class size, where it’s held. cccc. Jaroszewska – I think we should transition this specific course so these teachers

can still get paid this year. I think it’s too much to expect for our student fees to go into student-led courses.

dddd. Lee – Is it possible to put a policy for paying for only student-led courses? eeee. Syed – Based off of what you were talking about, you wanted CCE to continue as

how they are, and implement changes next year?ffff. Jaroszewska – It’s all up to you. You can talk it out with CCE, see if its funding

continues or cut the classes’ credits?gggg. Friedman – We could just not do units. Our unit allocates funds for our units’

education.hhhh. Jaroszewska – I’m glad you guys are talking about this. How are you guys going

to incorporate this into our structure so that it doesn’t necessarily pay these student leaders but that they get some sort of compensation?

iiii. Fayyaz – All the different ideas we brought forward, we should figure out which ones we want to informally do with them, or just decide what we’re going to do with them. Divide the house on whether to pay position for CCE, but not get academic credit.

jjjj. Friedman – It’s really valuable for students to get this sort of experience. The academic part is not integral, but it’s important to foster…

kkkk. Fayyaz – We’re not trying to devalue what you’re doing…i. Divide the House (4-3-5)

llll. Bach – I don’t think we’re going to have money in the future or now if this thing expands. The reason people take these courses is not for the money. The issue is that some people are going to get paid for spring quarter. We can honor whoever’s

already getting paid for spring quarter, but next year it will be different. We need a consistent policy.

mmmm. Friedman – Your point is compelling, but if you’re already thinking about cutting this program, the ideology of “just go get a job,” where are there other jobs like this?

nnnn. Helland – We can write a bill introducing this issue 2 weeks from now about making a consistent policy.

oooo. Nguyen – I’m going to ask the table to move on with Helland’s idea. Have the discussion somewhere else. Urge table to move forward.

C. ASUCD OutreachD. Aggie TV Proposal

a. Schaeffer – AggieTV has done 4 different types of video production: marketing, contract videos (production), campus content, creative. Originally, we wanted AggieTV to benefit association. They haven’t stopped doing campus content/creative. We have no way to calculate how they’re using their resources and time, to benefit ASUCD rather than having fun. Want to pay AggieTV, and get rid of campus content and creative videos. Commission-based marketing and production videos. Adding a photography component, also commission-based. Milton Lang asked for a video to be made, due tomorrow. Reuben didn’t respond to any emails about progress.

b. Kapur – Campus Content, why is it negative? c. Schaeffer – They made a video about making dumplings, categorized it about

campus content. d. Kappes – They argue consistently for broadcast journalism. It should take you

significantly less than 3 weeks to create a 2 minute broadcast.e. Tall – Why hasn’t this been in budget hearings?f. Schaeffer – Because we made an agreement with Reuben, and he didn’t follow up

with it. g. Lee – It was mentioned to me before, any way we can get the sports contracts? h. Kappes – If we professionalize this unit, it has the potential to pay for itself and

make a profit. i. Fatayerji – All these people who already do videos, can we contract private students

to work on this?j. Schaeffer – The hope is that this unit will help find customers and connect them

with commission-based workers. And it allows for a training program. Senate doesn’t need to approve because AggieTV technically isn’t a unit. Want budget to reflect this change.

XVII. Any Other BusinessA. Promise for Education Committee Chair – Joanna Jaroszewska

XVIII. Adjournment – 11:31