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T "UI ""1 :!'III;TI.... ." 'XHIITt K II : ~, . ' ' ',1111 <'I'" lTo IT< BREAKING THE SHACKLES OF OUR INCOME TAX By Paul Craig Roberts With the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF) seeminglyengagedin a con- test to determine which can be the most hated federal agency, here is some fascinating news. While the federal Waco hearings are putting heat on the BATF, the IRS is being targetedby none other than the Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee,Bill Archer. Here, Paul Craig Roberts, considered by many to be one of this nation's clearesteconomic minds, spells out Archer's radical proposal. Roberts was President Reagan's Assistant Treasury Secretary and is currently a Distinguished Fellow at the Cato Institute in Washington, D.G. Roberts' columns are syndi- cated by Scripps-Howard News Service. " l am committed to tearing the income tax out by its roots. If we don't tear it out by the roots, I am afraid it will grow back just as tangled as it ISnow. "Therefore, I intend to have the Committee on Ways and Means carefully examine alternative tax systems that would replace completely the current income, estate and gift tax system." These are sentiments with which many would agree, but when Rep. Bill Archer, Texas Republican, Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, which has juris- diction over the country's tax law, express- es these sentiments, we know something big is happening in Washington. True to his word, Mr. Archer held three days of hearings during the first week of June, and the results were astounding. The income tax has few friends among experts. The case against the income tax system is fivefold: (1) It is unfair; if you are successful you have to pay proportionately more than if you are unsuccessful. (2) It is difficult to comply with, expos- ing the taxpayer to penalties, and the requirement to report one's income to the Internal Revenue Service is an infringe- ment of freedom that the Founding Fathers rejected. "I am committed to tearing the income tax out by its roots." - US. Rep. Bill Archer, Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction over US. tax law (3) It discourages saving and invest- ment, thus reducing the growth of jobs and incomes. (4) It cannot reach the underground economy or drug and criminal profits. (5) It raises the price of goods and ser- vices, thus hurting the competitiveness of U.S. products in world markets. With so many strikes against the income tax, one has to wonder why we -- '"- '-..y-InI- - - <1/0'1 U.s. Incllvldu8llncome T.. Retum (8) U@I V"""-- -........--- 1 2 3 . 8 have if. The answer is that it is a historical accident: The Americans who voted in the income tax thought it would never apply to them. When the Democrats passed an income tax 100 years ago, it was struck down by the Supreme Court as unconstitutional. It required a constitutional amendment, the 16th, to establish the income tax in 1913, a relatively recent time for a country whose origin is 1776. The 16th Amendment passed as a political act directed at the wealthy Northeast. In other areas of the country, incomes were not large enough to produce any liability under the tax. For example, in 1910 William Shelton of Georgia wrote that Southerners favored ratification "because none of us here have $4,000 incomes." This view proved to be shortsighted. The income tax ceased to be a rich man's tax and became a mass tax. Today, the tips of waitresses are taxed at higher rates than the incomes of million- aires were when the tax went into effect. (Continued on page 16) ~~ "..,".UI' fltetlon elmPI'", .. Do yOuwontS3 to go (SH ~. 12.) , ". IoInI ratum,don 1 . . For Prlv8oy Act and Paperwork Reduotlon Act Notice, ... illig- 4. 0 V ",," y<IU' poronl return, do noI -

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Page 1: Art Bell After Dark Newsletter 1995-09 - September

T"UI ""1 :!'III;TI.... ." 'XHIITt

K II: ~,. ' '

',1111 <'I'" lToIT<

BREAKING THE SHACKLES OF OUR INCOME TAXBy Paul Craig Roberts

With the Internal Revenue Service (IRS)and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, andFirearms (BATF) seeminglyengagedin a con-test to determine which can be the most hated

federal agency, here is some fascinating news.

While the federal Waco hearings are puttingheat on the BATF, the IRS is being targetedbynone other than the Chairman of the HouseWays and Means Committee,Bill Archer.

Here, Paul Craig Roberts, considered bymany to beone of this nation's clearesteconomicminds, spells out Archer's radical proposal.Roberts was President Reagan's AssistantTreasury Secretary and is currently aDistinguished Fellow at the Cato Institute inWashington, D.G. Roberts' columns are syndi-cated by Scripps-Howard News Service.

" l am committed to tearing theincome tax out by its roots. If wedon't tear it out by the roots, I am

afraid it will grow back just as tangled as itISnow.

"Therefore, I intend to have the

Committee on Ways and Means carefullyexamine alternative tax systems thatwould replace completely the currentincome, estate and gift tax system." Theseare sentiments with which many wouldagree, but when Rep. Bill Archer, TexasRepublican, Chairman of the House Waysand Means Committee, which has juris-diction over the country's tax law, express-es these sentiments, we know somethingbig is happening in Washington.

True to his word, Mr. Archer held three

days of hearings during the first week ofJune, and the results were astounding. Theincome tax has few friends among experts.

The case against the income tax systemis fivefold:

(1) It is unfair; if you are successful youhave to pay proportionately more than ifyou are unsuccessful.

(2) It is difficult to comply with, expos-

ing the taxpayer to penalties, and therequirement to report one's income to theInternal Revenue Service is an infringe-ment of freedom that the FoundingFathers rejected.

"I am committed to tearing theincome tax out by its roots."

- US. Rep. Bill Archer, Chairmanof the House Ways and Means

Committee, which hasjurisdiction over US. tax law

(3) It discourages saving and invest-ment, thus reducing the growth of jobsand incomes.

(4) It cannot reach the undergroundeconomy or drug and criminal profits.

(5) It raises the price of goods and ser-vices, thus hurting the competitiveness ofU.S. products in world markets.

With so many strikes against theincome tax, one has to wonder why we

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have if. The answer is that it is a historicalaccident: The Americans who voted in the

income tax thought it would never applyto them.

When the Democrats passed an incometax 100 years ago, it was struck down bythe Supreme Court as unconstitutional. Itrequired a constitutional amendment, the16th, to establish the income tax in 1913, arelatively recent time for a country whoseorigin is 1776. The 16th Amendmentpassed as a political act directed at thewealthy Northeast. In other areas of thecountry, incomes were not large enough toproduce any liability under the tax.

For example, in 1910 William Sheltonof Georgia wrote that Southerners favoredratification "because none of us here have

$4,000 incomes." This view proved to beshortsighted. The income tax ceased to bea rich man's tax and became a mass tax.

Today, the tips of waitresses are taxed athigher rates than the incomes of million-aires were when the tax went into effect.

(Continued on page 16)

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Letters From ListenersART- ICULATI ONS

Centerfold GalleryIt is not often that I take time to

write letters, but after I received myJuly issue of Art Bell's After Dark, Ifelt that I should let you know mythoughts. It is the best issue that Ihave received so far. The pictureswere great, and I would like to seemore in upcoming issues. It really addsto the newsletter to see some of the

pictures that Art talks about. Howabout adding a Centerfold Gallery ineach issue of the pictures on Art'scomputer bulletin board? Maybe youmight consider printing pictures to tiein with upcoming Dreamland shows orsubjects, so that we can use them asreference points for the subject beingdiscussed, as you did, for example,with Mr. Richard Hoagland in the JulyIssue.

Thank you for your newsletter.

H. MataSan Marcos, CA

Fed up

Art, I just finished reading the Juneissue of After Dark and felt an over-whelming need to respond to "InsideClub Fed" (Lettersfrom Listeners).

THe tS5f!:fl/Ce Or 5ell. C7EPffAP-DT5iATt5T 50UNf) BITt::...

Tips On Accessing Art's Bulletin BoardBy Art Bell

Since we started our computer bulletin board (702-727.1709), thousands of people haveaccessed it and successfully downloaded files. However, some people have had difficulty,and I want to offer some pointers on the subject.

The crux of the matter is: You need to know how to download a file in order to use our bul~

letin board,or anybody else's for that matter. Although our bulletin board service wilt leadyou through the process, you stUlhave to be familiar with.what you are doing-specifical-ly, hoWto download. Like everything else, this takes a little practice, and so in the interestof savif1gyou money,J stlggestthe following:

Practice on of1eof the local bulletif1boardservicesin your area, which you can access witha local call. In addition to a computer and modem, you wilt need a generic modem program

(not "America On LiM" or "CompuServe"-those won't work), software capable of Zmodem or X modem or some protocolofthat sort. When you have practiced and are confi~dent you caf1download successfully,caU our bulletin board. That way, you won't wastemoneylearnif1gatJong distance rates. That's the best advice we can give, without gettingvery technical and specific, which is notfeasible considering all the different systems outthere; Also, if necessary, you can call a local computer store and ask them for someadvice. Practice locally, and then act globally. Good luck!

I have been locked up for nine yearson this beef and have seen six different

federal prisons to date, so I think Ispeak from experience when I tell youthat the rhetoric from the fraud whowrote "Inside Club Fed" is baseless,

unfounded, and designed to do nothingmore than inflame the reader.

You don't have to look any furtherthan the report Amnesty Internationaldid citing the deplorable conditions inthe American prison system, equaledonly by South Africa and China. "60Minutes" also chronicled some of the

medical atrocities that occur frequentlythroughout the federal prison system,and found them to be the worst onrecord.

I just wish the readers of yournewsletter would understand one

thing: Doing time, whether it's in thefederal system or at some other facility,is no picnic, but then you and yourreaders may find that out for yourselvesreal soon if you don't stop abdicatingyour constitutional rights in the nameof security.

Carl ThompsonD.S.P. Lompoc, CA

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AFTER DARK we.lcomes yourcommentsand communications. Send letters toAFTER DARK, c/o Chancellor Broadcasting

Co., 744E. Pi.ne Street, Central point,Oregon 97502, or you may FAXthem to503..664-8261. To order AFTERDARKor

Art Bel.I's programs on cassette, call ourtoll-free order lineat 1-800-917-4278.

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From The High Desert...REMEMBERING WHAT COUNTS

The World War II generationpasses into history

ByArt Bell

My father never really talkedabout the war. He was in theFirst Marine Division at

Guadaicanal and I know there is much hecould have said. But he wasn't comfort-

able discussing it. How can you describethe horror of mass violence, the self-sacri-fice of friends, the ugly, sudden death ofmen better than you who, based on theircharacter, should have lived forever? Youdon't talk about these things to someonewho can't understand them, and youdon't need to talk about them to thosewho do.

I've noticed this with Vietnam veter-

ans; those who have really been to war arequiet about it. However, there is a prob-lem with this silence. As Newt Gingrichrecently pointed out, people don't havegenetic memories. We have to be taughtabout the sacrifices of those who have

gone before us so that we honor our her-itage. Aristotle said it directly and simply:"The fate of empires depends on theeducation of youth."

As we approach the 50th anniversary ofthe end of World War II, we have to hopeits true value is appreciated by the latergenerations. (And I mean appreciated inseveral ways, including understanding thehomefront effort, from "Rosy the Riveter"to people like my mother who was aMarine Drill Instructor at Camp Lejeune,North Carolina while my father was away.)

I hate to think that Americans could be

so disconnected from American heritageand recent history that they have alreadyforgotten World War II. But it is happen-ing, and how can you blame them? Whomakes it real for them? Where in

American culture do they hear about it?Except for a few superficial words on theevening news now and them, no one talksabout the war. And not for the reason myfather was reluctant to talk. For him, itwas just too serious a memory to becheapened by words. You might say hecared too much. The pop cultUre doesn'treally care at all-it isn't interested insomething so serious, or so "militaristic."

And yet, imagine what would have

become of this world if that generationhadn't fought and died. Or if the ColdWar hadn't been fought courageously. Aswe close the 20th CentUry, some peopleforget that Communism killed 100 millionpeople in the Soviet Union and Chinaalone. The Soviets killed about 60 millionand the Communist Chinese killed anoth-er 40 million-and these are conservative

estimates. Hitler was just getting startedcompared to Stalin and Mao Tse-tung.Thank God there were American warriors

capable of standing up to these three menas well as those that ruled Japan. Many ofus wonder if that's appreciated by ouryounger citizens.

Polls show that the majority of those

"I think of my father and the risks

he took for me-and for you-at Guadalcanal. I think of

thousandsuponthousandsof

kids, each with a sweaty (or

frigid), white-knuckled grip on anM1 Garandor Carbine..."

under 30 think the use of nuclear force on

Japan was wrong. I can't help but wonderhow many of these young Americansknow anything at all about the war againstJapan or the atrocities the Japanese com-mitted in the process. (More on that in thenext issue.)

What is worth remembering? Alongwith the principles of American freedom,appreciating the sacrifices of those whobuilt and protected this land is the key tohonoring America's worth. And I'm not justtalking about the sacrifices of war, althoughthey would be primary. I am talking about"sacrifice" in the sense of character-what

people give up for a higher good, whetherit's parents giving up what they want forthe sake of their children, or a culture giv-ing up some things it "wants" for the sakeof the nation.

The World War II generation is a gener-ation that knows how to put the highergood before self-interest. They knowsomething about sacrifice, about character,on many different levels. I am very sorry to

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see this generation pass from the modernAmerican scene-I definitely don't wantthem to pass from American memory.

In his farewell address as President,Ronald Reagan pointed to a special dangerin forgetting past sacrifice. "If we forget whatwe did, we won't know who we are," hesaid, warning of "an eradication of theAmerican memory that could result, ulti-mately, in an erosion of the American spirit."

But how are we going to keep remem-bering when the American culture, thenation's memory bank, has rejected patri-otism as something that is at best anti-quated and irrelevant, and at worst dan-gerous to a peaceful world? And that's the

part of the culture that even cares about politi-cal issues. The popular culture seems moreconcerned with Elvis' memory than withremembering the character of GeneralMarshall or the sacrifices of the men atGuadaicanai.

Reagan commented on this in hisfarewell address, saying that in the mod-ern American culture "well-groundedpatriotism" was no longer "the style" -anunderstatement if I ever heard one. The

networks are capable of gushing over theGulf War parade or a big anniversary likeD-Day or V-E day, but the sensibilitiesand sacrifices of the WWII generation donot infuse the popular culture with anywisdom. And that is a prescription for dis-aster in the long run. If the culture has nowisdom on these issues, it is not likelythat our citizens will either. I'm sure pollsshow a much greater public familiaritywith pop stars and sports figures than withthose people who gave of themselves sothat we might prosper.

Appreciating the sacrifices of thosewho have gone before you-those whohave built the platform on which youstand-is at the heart of what defines a

civilization. You've got to have that mem-ory or you have nothing.

(Continued on page 16)

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Feature Article:

GINGRI CH SAYSEXPECf HEARINGS ON FOSTER DEATH

By Christopher Ruddy

With Congressional Whitewater hearingsin the news, After Dark takes an updatedlook at one of the most sensational, albeit

underreported, stories of the decade: thedeath of former White House DeputyCounsel Vincent Foster. Journalist

Christopher Ruddy is widely considered tobe one of the most knowledgeable experts onthe Foster death case.

What do the Speaker of theHouse, a former attorney gen-eral, and the former mayor of

New York have in common? All threebelieve unanswered questions about the.death of Deputy White House CounselVincent Foster need to be fullyexplained to the public.

Recently House Speaker NewtGingrich said on a New York talk radioprogram that the public is "entitled to afull airing" of the circumstances ofFoster's death. Gingrich's commentscame after a caller to WABC's Bob Grantprogram, New York's most listened-totalk radio show, complained that Senatehearings led by Sen Alfonse D'Amatowould not cover questions about Foster'sdeath.

"I was very struck by an article...in

Investor's Business Daily," Gingrich toldthe caller, which he said was "stunning,raising question after question afterquestion about Foster, and what hap-pened there (at Fort Marcy Park)."

Gingrich said as a result of the article,he asked several committee chairmen inthe House "to look into that."

"Not a day goes by thatFoster's name does not come

up on the floor of the House...people are still talking thatsomething is amiss here."

- Y.,S. Rep. Dana Rohrbacher

"And I think you will be seeing somehearings on these topics because whenyou look at it there's just too much thereto not try to find out what really hap-pened."

The Investor's Business Daily story(June 20, 1995) detailed the dozens ofproblems remaining in the Foster case,largely based on reports in thePittsburgh Tribune-Review (Editor's note:by ChristopherRuddy) and a report of twoNew York homicide experts preparedfor the Western Journalism Center.

The article cited nagging problemsin the Foster case, including:

. Strong evidence that Foster's body

was moved to the park, supported bythe lack of soil on his shoes after sup-posedly walking 700 feet into the park,failure to find the fired bullet, and thelack of blood and blood spatter at thescene..Indications that the body was notfound at the site police claim.

. Indications the 1913 Colt inFoster's hand was placed there, sincepowder marks on Foster's hand indicateneither hand was on the grip when itwas fired.

. The unusual location of Foster's

eyeglasses, 13 feet from the body.. The discrepancies in testimony

which indicate the White House wasinformed of Foster's death much earlierthan claimed..And the resignation of the leadprosecutor examining Foster's deathfrom the staff of the IndependentCounsel, reportedly because he wasthwarted in conducting a full probe intothe discrepancies.

Gingrich's office did not return callsfor comment. But U.S. Rep. DanaRohrbacher, R- Calif., outspoken inraising concerns about the circum-stances of Foster's death, believes

Starr's probe includes money launderingRegardless of how the Congressional Whitewater hearings turn out,

Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr continues his investigation into not only

Whitewater, but also a number of other seamy allegations leveled againstBill Clinton.

Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr's probe into the Arkansas dealings of

PresidentClintonand his wife Hillaryappearsto be strayingfar andwidefrom just the Clinton's16-year-old land partnership deal known asWhitewater.

Arkansas state troopers that once provided security for then-Gov. Bill

Clinton and his wife have been interviewed by FBI investigators working for

Starr or have gone before Starr's Little Rock grand jury.

Troopers interviewed by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review say that Starr's

investigators have been examining some of the more sordid allegations

made against the Clintons during their tenure in Arkansas-allegations

going beyond published accounts that Starr's probe had been limited to

Whitewater and possible illegal contributions to his 1990 gubernatorial

campaign.

According to the troopers, central issues they were questioned on by the

Starr probe Included:. MONEY LAUNDERING - Troopers were asked if they overheard discus-

sions between the Clintons on the subject

. THE ARKANSAS DEVELOPMENT FINANCE AUTHORITY (ADFA) -Starrisprobing whether the agency set up to help business expansion was used to

payoff political friends of the Clintons..MONEY AND GIFTS PERSONALLY RECEIVED BY CLINTON WHILE

GOVERNOR

Evidence indicates that the areas of inquiry are not simply exploratory, but

are being carefully examined by the grand jury.

ADFA was the brainchild of Clinton, created in 1985 as a state bonding

authority that would use bond proceeds to give to businesses for expansion

and other groups in an effort to create jobs. By the time Clinton left

Arkansas for Washington in 1993, the age9cy had lent approximately $719million.

But the agency's role became controversial for Clinton during the cam-

paign and remains so.

The Los Angeles Times reported in 1992 that Clinton received over$400,000 in contributions to his 1990 gubernatorial campaign from compa-nies that had done business with ADFA.

Long-time Clinton critic Larry Nichols, a mainstay on talk radio and for-

mer marketing director for ADFA in the late 1980s, has claimed ADFA was

used for money laundering. Similarly, authors Terry Reed and John

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Gingrich's comments reflect theSpeaker's "being a truth-sayer, speak-ing his mind and speaking honestly."

"Vince Foster might be dead, but heis not forgotten," Rohrbacher said, not-ing that "not a day goes by that Foster'sname does not come up on the floor ofthe House... people are still talking thatsomething is amiss here."

Gingrich's comments also drew sup-port from a prominent Democrat, for-mer New York Mayor Ed Koch.

Substantial questions"There are some questions (in the

Foster death case) that are quite sub-stantial. I believe this is no minor mat-ter," said Koch, who oversaw thenation's largest police force for 12years.

Koch, an influential figure in thenation's media capital, hosts a radio pro-gram on WABC and writes a newspapercolumn. He suggests that he wouldprobably take the view that the deathwas suicide, but argues that the case"ought to be examined extensively toput it to bed, otherwise it will be withus like the Kennedy assassination."

For example, Koch has previouslystated that carpet fibers and hairsfound on Foster's clothing need to beinvestigated and that the public has aright to know Foster's whereabouts onthe afternoon of his death.

He noted that had a high rankingcity official died under suspicious cir-

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cumstances while he was mayor, hewould have insisted on a public hear-ing. As for Starr's current secret grandjury probe, Koch said, "It is not goodenough. The public is entitled to befilled in now, not 25 years from now."

Questions have persisted despitetwo federal probes into Foster's death.The park police ruled that Foster'sJuly 20, 1993 death was a suicide.Special Counsel Robert Fiske issued areport in June of 1994 also concludingthat Foster committed suicide.

Former Attorney General EdwinMeese III, who served under President

Reagan, took exception to the Fiskereport, stating, "Obviously the ques-tions that remained after the Fiskereport have not yet been answered tothe satisfaction of many people."

Meese agreed with Gingrich that theissues relating to Foster's death need-ed to be aired. "I think as long as seri-ous questions remain, the public isentitled to a complete explanation ofwhat occurred."

Some recent press reports have sug-gested that questions relating toFoster's death are solely the result ofconspiracy freaks or Clinton critics. .

Cummings In their book Compromised: Bush, Clinton and the CIA have also

alleged the development agency was used to launder drug money.

State PolicemenStarr's investigators have interviewed more than three dozen members

of the Arkansas State Pollee who served on the Clinton security detail

during the 12 years he was governor.

Trooper Roger Perry, who guarded Clinton for nearly seven years, said

he was Interviewed by four FBI agents working for Starr In March. He

said he was questioned intensively about contributions Clinton received

that he had witnessed. Perry said it was not unusual for Clinton to receive

cash-as much as $50D-at fund-raising events from individuals.Another trooper who has been questioned before the grand jury said,

"We received envelopes and cash all the time, at almost every reception

he was at" The trooper recalled that at the end of a reception it was not

unusual to receive a sealed envelope from Clinton which he was asked to

keep. The trooper said he typically handed the envelopes to Clinton's

secretary in the Capitol building.

On one occasion, the trooper said he told the grand jury he was given

an envelope "full of cash and checks" while at a reception in Denver in

the late 1980s. He said it was one of the few times the envelope had not

The troopersaid that while in the men's roomduring the reception, he looked through theenvelope, noted one check made payable to"Bill Clinton" for $35,000.

been sealed. The troopersaid that while In the men's room duringthereception, he looked through the envelope, noted one check madepayable to "Bill Clinton" for $35,000.

None of the troopers could comment as to whether any of the money

had been properly accounted for.

Starr's investigation appears to be leaving no stone unturned. One state

trooper said in his career in law enforcement he had not seen a more

thorough investigation.

The trooper said he was also surprised by the LitUe Rock grand jury,

"They asked me at least a dozen questions on intimate details of the

case," the trooper said. Typically grand jury members don't participatein interrogations. It is a sign of an active investigation. .

-Christopher RuddyChristopher Ruddy's articles on the Vince Foster case are carried in

After Dark by permission of the Western Journalism Center.

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D~€AMLAND REPO RtIn depth explorations of subjects and guests featured on Art Bell's weekly radio program "Dreamland"

THE ROSWELL PHOTOS: Fi.1:Y1ll)1the real t.hi1Jg?

An interview with Ray Santilli,owner of the sensational Roswellautopsyfilmfootage

R 'ObablYthe m'Ostfam'Ous UFO inci-dent in hist'Ory 'Occurred 'OnJuly 2,1947 in Raswell, New Mexica. On

that date an unarthadax aircraft crash-land-ed near the u.S. military base there. Militarypersannel wha callected the remains 'Ofthecraft described it ta the lacal Raswell newspa-per as a "flying disc." But the fallawing daythe gavernment changed its stary, and insistedthe craft was 'Onlya "weather ballaan. "

Incredibly, several alien badies allegedlywere recaveredfram the wreckage. Naw, afterdecades 'Ofeffarts by ufalagists ta verify whathappened at Raswell-in theface 'Ofrepeatedand shifting denials by the gavernment-cames this: Film faatage that purparts ta dac-ument the 1947 autapsy 'OfRaswell aliencrash victims at the hands 'Ofu.s. militarypathalagists.

Art Bell interviewed the 'Owner'Ofthefilm,Ray Santilli 'Ofthe United Kingdam, abautthe faatage itself, and abaut the warldwidetelevisian screening planned for late August.Best 'Ofall, we have 'Obtainedspecial permis-sian fram Mr. Santilli ta publish five stillshats 'Ofthe Raswell film in this issue 'OfAfterDark.

Art: Ray, America right now is absolute-ly adrift in myth and rumor about whatyou've got. What's going on?

Ray: We have approximately 30 min-utes of viewable, good quality footage,which we believe is quite sensational.That footage will be transmitted world-wide on the 28th of August.

Art: It's my understanding that youhave promised the cameraman, the per-son who took this footage, anonymity.Is that correct?

Ray: Yes. We could only acquire thefilm by agreeing to certain terms and

conditions. As much as we understandthe frustration of many people who havea love for the subject and who want toknow who the cameramen is and thedetails of the filming, it is very difficultfor us when the agreement we reachedwith him was to guarantee his privacy.

Art: What was his motivation for gettingthe film out now? Is it because he reallycares about the story, or what?

Ray: No, I don't think he really carestoo much about the story. We found himby accident, in 1993. He had spent hislife as a free-lance cameraman after leav-ing the military, and we were purchasingsome other footage from him.

Art: I heard you were originally aftersome early Elvis Presley footage, and thenstumbled into this?

Ray: Yes. We were doing a documen-tary on the early movement of rock 'nroll and its influences on society. Wepurchased footage from a guy that hadbeen a free-lance cameraman in 1955.He then explained that prior to '52 hehad worked in the military, and he relat-ed the story of Roswell. At the time, we

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didn't have a clue as to what Roswellwas all about. But when someone says toyou they've got an alien autopsy, even ifyou think it's ridiculous you go and havea look at it, which is what we did. And,it's a remarkable piece of film.

We've spent a great deal of time andenergy researching the whole thing.We've been through the various verifica-tion processes that were available to us,and have ended up where we are now.

Art: Let me ask you a couple of bigquestions that everybody is asking aboutthe film. First, a few of the still pho-tographs ended up on the Internet, andpeople said, "Ah ha! Look at the curlyphone cord. They didn't have curly phonecords in 1947." But that's not true, is it?They did!.

Ray: Yes. When the stills were firstreleased there was a great deal of fussabout the telephone that was in the pic-ture, and then I think someone tracedthe cord down to 1939.

The things about this film that seemto have bothered the most people are,firstly, that the creatures are all female,

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and second, that these creatures are allmuscular. People have these perceivedidea of what an E.T. or an alien shouldlook like, and this doesn't comply.

Art: Ray, you're not a ufologist. You'venot been following this kind of thing...

Ray: I've never seen a UFO or aghost in my life.

Art: When I first saw the stills, Ray, Iwas shocked and impressed, becausefrankly, it is my idea of an alien-youknow, you hear of the little grays, and thelight people and big beings and Nordicsand all the rest of it-and this is sort ofalmost human, but to me, obviously nothuman. And I thought it was all the moreimpressive because of that.

Ray: People ask me, do we thinkthis film is a hoax? And the only thing Ican say to them is that when we firstacquired it in January of this year, wecould have sold it a hundred timesover, taken some money, and walkedaway with no further commitment atall. The only reason we still have thefilm and are working with the film isjust as a show of our confidence in thefact that it's genuine.

There are elements of the UFO com-munity that are very upset that we havethe film, because we are a commercialorganization. True, we haven't spentyears in the library or researching thesubject, so I can understand that ourhaving the film is probably not the idealsitUation for them. But if we hadn't been

a commercial company, we wouldn'thave found it in the first place!

Art: That's right. Ray, I've got a reporthere from a Dr. Milroy.

Ray: Yes, he's the senior forensicpathologist that works here in the U.K.He's involved in conducting autopsiesfor the police and various high-profiletypes of cases.

Art: And, while he did complain aboutsome blurriness in the film at a couple ofpoints, he said, regarding the brain, and Iquote, "however, the appearances werenot those of a human brain."

Ray: That's right. And remember, Dr.Milroy is a professional and an academic.You can't expect these people to go asfar as saying "this is an alien creature,"because their reputation is at stake. He'sgone as far as he can professionally.Unfortunately, every time we bring inthese professionals, and they give theirbest opinion, they are generally driven

mad by some of the UFO communityafterwards, and find themselves havingto step backwards from the position theywould probably like to take.

Kodak released an official press state-ment four days ago, after having ana-lyzed the film in Hollywood, London,and in Europe. They have come up withthe finding that the film was manufac-tured in 1927, '47, or '67. Unfortunately,they used the same code every 20 years,so even they were unable to date thefilm exactly. But there's also a chemicaltest which will be attempted next, andhopefully we'll then be able to pinpointthe year exactly.

Art: About the still photos that gotout, I guess they were unauthorized?

Ray: They were stolen and scannedoff the TV, and they then wingedtheir way around the world on our

"The things about this film thatseem to have bothered the most

people are, firstly, that the crea-tures are all female, and second,

that these creatures are all

muscular." -Ray Santilli

wonderful Internet.

Art: So our lucky people with comput-ers get a look. But I guess all told it's notthat bad, because they're a wonderfultease for what's really coming. And again,I would like, if I could-we have anewsletter that we publish, and I'd likepermission from you to publish thosestills. Would that be all right?

Ray: I'm sure it's okay. Strictly forthat, it's fine, but not for the nationals orany publication.

Question from caller: Has anybodyasked you about Stanton Freedman, whois a very dogged investigator on this case,but who doesn't seem to have any knowl-edge of these films.

Ray: Stanton first approached uswhen news of the footage became pub-lic. We have a sitUation where we have

purposely, if you like, kept the footageaway from the UFO community,because of the problems we have experi-enced in terms of tapes being copied,and the internal arguments that go on inthe UFO community. You find one divi-sion always fighting with another divi-

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sion. And we thought, as far as ourprocess was concerned, that it would bebetter to bring in independent verifica-tion-people that are not interested inUFOs, people that don't have anybiased opinion on the subject.

For the purpose of verification, then,we have gone to outside independentsources: doctors, film experts, and so forth.So a great many people within the UFOcommunity have not seen the footage.However we did have one screening onthe 5th of May at the Museum of Londonfor any UFO-interested party that wantedto come down.

Art: What amazed me, Ray, was thatwhen I got the first reports on the screen-ing from people who viewed it, they werevery much in doubt and were talking aboutthe curly phone cord and all the rest of it.And then I got to see the stills, and Ithought exactly the opposite. I thought,"Damn, this is the best stuff I've ever seen."

Ray: Obviously, people should beskeptical when they first see the film,because it is quite an incredible piece offilm. It just needs further investigation.

Questionfrom caller:Have you made con-tact with the TV programs "Sightings" or"Encounters," becausemillions of people inAmerica would like to seethisfilm.

Ray: I'm actually not aware of"Sightings." However, it's the producerof the "Encounters" program that's mak-ing our special for the Fox network.

Art: Ray, do you feel in a strange posi-tion? You're someone who has never hadanything to do with UFOs or ufology, andyet you may turn out to be the man whocame up with the "smoking gun"?

Ray: I have no particular love for thesubject of UFOs or the paranormal, and weare a commercial company, so we are in itfor commercial reasons. But if it benefitsthe UFO community or people in generalsomehow, then fine. However there's alsothe other argument that say~ the footagecould be socontroversialthat it causes noth-ing but more infighting and disputeamongst people in variousreligions.

Art: Howhas it affectedyou?Ray: It has unfortunately made our

life a lot more complicated, because itmeans we are spending a great deal oftime on it. However, let's not kid anyonehere, it has a significant value, and that'sthe business that we're in. .

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News You Can Use

SH 0 RT TAKESAztec Art

After court battles and a $500,000price tag, the city of San Jose,California installed a statue of the

Aztec god Quetzalcoatl in a downtownpark. According to the newsletterDispatches, citizens have since dubbedthe statue "Park God," which when

spelled backwards is descriptive of theidol's appearance.

Talking HeadsThe nation's airwaves are full of for-

mer politicians who have switched to theother side of the microphone to becometalk-show hosts. Here's a partial list com-piled by The WashingtonTimes.

Jerry Brown, former California gover-nor and Democratic presidential candi-date, hosts a traditional call-in show.Mario Cuomo, former Democratic gov-ernor of New York, has a radio programon thought-provoking topics. DavidDinkins, former Democratic mayor ofNew York City, hosts a call-in show.Gary Hart, former Colorado senator andDemocratic presidential candidate, hostsa weekly radio show with guests. JimHightower, former Democratic Texasagriculture commissioner, hosts his ownshow. Ben Jones, former DemocraticGeorgia congressman, is an occasionaltalk-show host. Alan Keyes, formerRepublican U.S. Senate candidate inMaryland and current presidential candi-date, hosts a call-in show, as does EdKoch, former Democratic mayor of NewYork City, and Bob Kunstra, formerRepublican lieutenant governor ofIllinois. G. Gordon Liddy, formerNixon aide who served time in prison forhis role in the Watergate scandal, hosts avery popular call-in program. OliverNorth, Iran-Contra figure and formerRepublican Virginia U.S. Senate candi-date, began a successful talk show a fewmonths ago. Ross Perot, former inde-pendent presidential candidate, hosts acall-in show. Lowell Weicker, formerindependent Connecticut governor, isstarting a talk show. And DouglasWilder, former Democratic governor ofVirginia, hosts a call-in show.

INTERNET

halLcomhttp://www.town-

It's true. You can now access a broad

spectrum of the conservative world onthe Internet. As of June 29, the new

World Wide Web-based community,TOWN HALL, has given Internet usersone place to find information, news, andevents from the broad conservative

movement. Dozens of policy and grass-roots organizations have been invited tointeract with Internet users in the

TOWN HALL site and participate inthis new conservative community.Groups as diverse as the HeritageFoundation, National Review magazine,the American Conservative Union,Americans for Tax Reform, andEmpower America, among others, areintegrating TOWN HALL into theirday-to-day operations as a way to com-municate their messages to the grassrootsand Congress. "The Internet andTOWN HALL empower people, provid-ing them with uncensored access to con-servative information sources, 24 hours a

day, seven days a week," says TimothyButler, President of TOWN HALL.

TOWN HALL offers up-to-the-minute news briefs, analysis from leadingexperts, legislative agendas, and updatesfrom conservative groups across thecountry. Other features include the"Conservative Hall of Fame," on-line

conferencing, and full-text searching ofpublications.

More details about TOWN HALL

are available on-line at: http://www.per-simmon.com/townhall/media/w hy. h tml

Crime...A violent crime is committed in the

United States every 16 seconds, accord-ing to the FBI. There is a murder ever 21minutes, a forcible rape every 5 minutes,a robbery every 48 seconds, an aggravat-ed assault every 28 seconds, and a prop-erty crime every 3 seconds. Every 11 sec-onds there is a burglary, a larceny-theftevery 4 seconds-and every 20 secondssomebody's motor vehicle is stolen.

...and PunishmentNow for the offenders. Here are the

median prison sentences followed by themedian actual time served in this country:

. Murder: median sentence is 15

years, but actual median time served isonly 5.5 years!

. Rape: median sentence imposed is 8years, but median time served only 3years. That's right, 3 years.

. Robbery: median sentence is 6years, median time actually served, 2.25years..Assault: median sentence meted out

is 4 years, but the median time spentbehind bars is only 1.25 years. .

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BEHIND THE SCENES...

THREE MEN AND A RAD I0Fond recollections of the

childhood obsessions of Art Bell,

Bob Crane, and Alan Corbeth

By A1an Corbeth, President, CBC

YOUknow, it's funny the way thingsare. Some people say things havechanged like night and day over

the years. Let's just turn the calendarback one, two, three, oh no, four decadesago to the 1950s. Put yourself into thatframe of mind-Mickey Mantle, RogerMaris, Elvis, Bill Haley, crew cuts, poo-dle skirts, saddle shoes-you get the pic-ture. It was different all right. There waseven this little kid, let's call him Little

Art. Little Art Bell with a buzz cut, grow-ing up in a military family somewhere onthe east coast.

He hadn't smoked his first cigaretteyet. His main concerns in life were play-ing with radios, filling his hollow leg, andplaying with radios. There were radioseverywhere. By the age of thirteen, hewas a licensed "ham" and you couldmost likely any time of day or night findLittle Art happily banging away at CW(that's Morse Code for the uninitiated).

Everywhere you looked in Little Art'sbedroom you found radios. You foundtransmitters, antennas, boxes of hallowed

treasures that some might refer to asjunk, but not Art. There were tubes. Notjust any tubes, but venerable ones, like6V6's, capacitors, resistors, old chassisthat once held WWII tank radios that

operated somewhere around 7 MHz. andcould be coaxed to tune up on 40 meters.

Well, at about the same time Art was

into radios up to his eyebrows, there wasthis other little kid called Me, LittleAlan, growing up in upstate New York.As a kid I had two primary concerns. Onewas baseball, and the other was, youguessed it, radio.

I was the kid who would visit the localradio stations to tell them that I listened

in to their programs on a crystal set that Ibuilt myself. I was the kid whose back-yard and house were covered in wires,some of which actually performed asantennas. (That was far more a matter of

luck than expertise.) Aunt Ida refused toenter the room to help clean, claiming

that she once received a terrible shock inthere, and it just wasn't natural. Therewere radios everywhere. Some wereancient car radios hooked to vibrators(no, not that kind), there were one-tuberadios, two-tube radios, three-tuberadios, radios that ran on humungus "B"batteries, radios that you plugged in afteroffering up a prayer, radios that hadn'toperated in decades, radios that perhapsnever operated.

And then, sitting against the wall withthe "Iets-learn-our-solar-system" wallpa-per, was the ultimate triumph ofmankind's achievements, the pinnacle ofmy very existence: the huge glowingradio that was bigger than a large dog-house. This baby had a green "magic

Little Art Bell with a buzz cut,growing up in a military familysomewhere on the east coast.

He hadn't smoked his first

cigarette yet. His mainconcerns in life were playingwith radios, filling his hollowleg, and playing with radios.

eye" that had two sides that came closertogether and glowed brighter as the sta-tion you were trying to tune in gotstronger. It had at least a dozen glowingtubes that, on cold winter evenings, con-tributed greatly to the heating of myroom. It also had a huge loudspeaker thathad an electromagnet in it. What a radio!What a tribute to man's evolution over

the apes! Perhaps the most importantand mystical attribute of this "device ofthe gods" was its ability to pick up"shortwave"! Ah, shortwave, that strangeand mysterious magic medium thatallowed you to actually listen to mysteri-ous exotic places all over the globe. Eventhe name "shortwave" evoked images ofmystical magical invisible secret electro-magnetic rays that allowed you to peekinto secret places accessible only to the"initiated". Night after night I wouldamaze my friends by tuning in to RadioMoscow, The BBC, The Voice ofAmerica, Radio Canada, The

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Netherlands, and every so often, Tokyo!In addition, that big old monster

received the good old "AM band" whereI listened in to Doc Williams and theBorder Riders from WWVA in Wheeling,West Virginia; Cousin Wayne Rainey andthe entire Rainey Family, featuring hisson Duane singing "Pardon MyWhiskers" from WCKY-pronouncedwhaaaa, that's W C K WHAAAAA inCincinnati; Gene Sheperd and LongJohn Nebal from WOR in New York,Jack Igan from Chicago, and who couldever forget "Big Joe" Rosenfeld fromWABC in New York?

You know, Big Joe actually disap-peared into the ether. He vanished offthe face of the planet! But that's anotherstory for another time. Well, Big Joe ran ashow called "The Happiness Exchange"that dealt with "one way" talk radio.

That's right folks, I said one way talkradio. People would call in from a phonebooth on the corner of 48th Street and7th Avenue, with nine children, no fixedaddress, no money, and nowhere to go.Big Joe would relate the entire story tohis audience by saying:

"Oh my, you have nine kids?! Ladiesand gentlemen, this woman has ninekids. My goodness, you have no moneyP!Ladies and gentlemen, she has nomoney. Um, uh huh, hmmmmmm, really.pLadies and gentlemen, this wonderfulwoman Mary, and her husband, what'syour husband'sname,Mary? Mary says herhusband's name is John. Well, Mary andJohn have no money, nowhere to sleep,and they need your help. MaurySlepperman, the New York City taxi dri-ver is right here sitting next to me in thestudio. Maury, will you get into the"Checker" and pick up Mary, John, andthe kids?"

"Sure big Joe. I'm practically therealready." /

"There you are, folks. Maury's on hisway over to 48th and 7th right now to getMary and her family, and wait, hey,guess what, Big Abe the deli man fromthe Stage Delicatessen is sending overplatters of his mile high sandwiches, gal-lons of cream sodas, and buckets of hisworld famous potato salad. Wait, here's acaller, Sadie from Brooklyn who is giving$5.00 to help the family, and hey, Joe

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Putting Bob Crane and

Art Bell together islikeintroducing Itzhak Perlman

to Zubin Mehta and

wondering if they'll find

something to talk about

As you can imagine, theybecame instant friends.

from Queens has a room for these peo-ple, but what's that, what, you're inBattery Park and someone stole yourshoes! Ladies and Gentlemen, we havea caller on the line whose shoes werestolen in Battery Park."

You see. it wasn't always "east of theRockies," "west of the Rockies," etc.Anyway, while I was watching this biggreen "Magic Eye" there was this otherlittle kid growing up in Wisconsin.Little C. Bob Crane, eating cereal andsending away box tops for free CrystalRadio sets, so he couldlisten to the radio allnight long, and, in gen-eral, dedicating his lifeto the "magic medi-um."

When he was 11years old Bob tried tobuild a crystal set withtwo crystals. His elec-tronics teacher toldhim never to go intoelectronics, but thatdidn't stop him. Bobwas doing the samething Art and I weredoing; he was a total,bona fide, radio lunatic. Little did weknow that at some other time and place,when at least chronologically we wereno longer little boys, we would all meetand work together, playing a part inwhat we always lived for-radio.

Well, you're probably saying to your-self, all that's very interesting, Corbeth,but how did Bob Crane and Art Bellever get together? You see, Bob wasalso a committed talk radio nut. He wasa guy who was selling "Select-A-Tennas," a device that he still sells tothis day. (Incidentally, the Select-A-Tenna actually works. If you're having"AM" reception problems, I'd suggestyou give Bob a call and order one at 1-800-522-8863.)

The saga of how Art and Bob got intouch goes like this. A listener of Art'stold Bob to get in touch with Art as hefelt the two might be able somehow towork together. So Bob called KDWN inLas Vegas where Art was working at thetime. Somehow Art didn't get the mes-sage. Weeks went by, and Bob figuredArt probably wasn't going to contacthim. Then one day, right out Of theblue, Bob gets this call from a guy call-

ing himself Art Bell. Apparently themessage had gone astray, and Art hadn'tgotten it for some weeks.

Now here's where you have to real-ize that putting Bob Crane and Art Belltogether is like introducing ItzhakPerlman to Zubin Mehta and wonder-

ing if they'll find something to talkabout. As you can imagine, they becameinstant friends. Bob sent Art a Select-ATenna and immediately Art discoveredjust how well this little device actuallyworks. When Art likes a product, his

enthusiasm is infec-tious. Bob sold lots ofantennas. Art'sendorsement allowedBob to expand thebusiness. He addedradios-great radiosthat opened up theworld of shortwave tothousands of people.

It didn't hurt thatBob is very patient andreally works hard atsupplying simpleexplanations of howthe equipment works.He has a knack for

presenting instructions in a way thatpeople understand. Furthermore, he'sonly a telephone cal1 away, and isalmost always available. Art's showcont,inued to grow. The C. CraneCompany grew right along with it.Today, Bob Crane runs one of thelargest retail communications equip-ment outlets in the country, selling vir-tually everything: radios, scanners, tele-phones, faxes, stereo gear, satel1itereceivers, batteries, and all kinds of spe-cialty products.

Bob Crane is one of the reasons forthe success of Art Bell. Bob is alwayssupportive. Even during some of themore arid periods of our history, hesacrificed, to make certain that he washelping the show.

You know, it's funny the waythings are. It's funny how things havechanged with these three little kidswho used to fool around with radios.Now there are these three middle-aged guys who are still foolingaround with radio. I guess it's truethat the more things change, themorethey staythe same. .

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Y e Japanese are on to somethingwith their zealous respect forancestors; some would say they

carry it too far, but we could learn fromthem. Only a very selfish child doesn'tever appreciate the sacrificesof his or herparents. And only a very selfish peopledoesn't appreciate those who never sawtheir lives unfold so that ours might unfoldin peace and security. It seems to me thatthe least we can do is remember, under-stand, and honor their deeds and their per-sonal lossesendured forour sake.

So, I think of my father and the risks hetook for me-and for you-at Guadalcanal.I think of thousands upon thousands ofkids, each with a sweaty (or frigid),white-knuckled grip on an M 1 Garand orCarbine; I think of those who fought in theskies in Europe and those who fought onthe Pacific seas or in the jungles alongsidemy father-and especially those kids whodidn't live to get married, go to work, seetheir children grow, and wonder aboutwhat the future holds. I will rememberthem, and I promise to do my part to keepthe American memory alive. I hope youwilltoo..

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Today, the rich pay a disproportionateshare, but as there are relatively few richpeople, the bulk of income tax revenuescome from the middle class.

Mr. Archer has in mind replacing theincome tax with a consumption tax, such

Revenues from a sales taxcan beused to provide these transferpayments to the poor just aseasily as revenues from an

income tax. Imagine the freedomof not having to report your

income and wealth to the IRS,

and imagine the freedom of beingable to build a nest egg

by being frugal.

as a retail sales tax. As no one would anylonger have to report their incomes, thiswould get the IRS out of most people'slives. Moreover, people who are frugalcould build up nest eggs, whereas underthe current income tax system peoplecannot avoid taxes by saving theirmcomes.

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A sales tax would raise the prices ofgoods and services, but on the other hand

people would have more take-home paybecause there would be no more income

tax withholding. Moreover, under therules of international trade, consumptiontaxes do not have to be paid on exports,thus taking the tax factor out of their cost.

Unreported income from criminal andunderground activities would be cap-tured by a sales tax, thus reducing theburden on the law-abiding part of thepopulation.

Some people think that a sales taxwould hurt the poor. However, the poorreceive most of their income in the form

of food stamps, housing subsidies andMedicaid that is not taxed anyhow.

Revenues from a sales tax can be used

to provide these transfer payments to thepoor just as easily as revenues from anincome tax. Imagine the freedom of nothaving to report your income and wealthto the IRS, and imagine the freedom ofbeing able to build a nest egg by beingfrugal.

If you like the feeling of restored free-dom, send your encouragement to Rep.Bill Archer, House Office Building,Washington, D.c. 20515. .

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