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NEW YO RK POST: Bell tied with LiddY..i!!rnumber 2 radio talker

T hat's right. Art Bell is tied,along with G. Gordon Liddy,for the honor of being the sec-

ond most listened to radio talk show

host in America, according to a recentarticle in the New York Post. Writtenduring the heat of President Clinton'sattacks on talk radio following theOklahoma City tragedy, the article,entitled "Right Wing, Right Stuff," byJosef Adalian, is subtitled, "Sorry, Bill,America loves radio talkers."

"President Clinton might not likeit," writes Adalian, "but the boom inright wing radio shows no sign of slow-ing down. Led by Rush Limbaugh's 20million weekly listeners and dozens ofnational and local conservative chat-ters, the talk radio format-which alsoincludes liberal and non-political pro-grams-has leapt ahead of adult con-temporary music to become thenation's most popular form of radioprogramming. "

"'The best estimate now is thatnearly half of all Americans listen totalk radio on a regular or semi-regularbasis,' says Michael Harrison, editor ofTalkers, a radio trade newspaper.Harrison adds: 'Talk radio is not theopinion leader. It simply reflects whatlisteners are thinking.'"

When he gets down to namingnames, Adalian of course acknowl-edges radio's top talker: "Limbaugh isfar and away the industry leader, withfour times as many listeners as G.Gordon Liddy, his closest conservativecompetitor. Liddy attracts approxi-mately 5 to 6 million listeners eachweek."

Are you ready? Adalian continues:"Other high-rated national talkersinclude former First Son MichaelReagan, Nevada-based overnight radiostar Art Bell, and former New Yorkradio regular Barry Farber. None of

the three is heard in New York, how-ever."

In a fascinating chart accompanyingthe article (seebelow), Adalian rates thetop talk hosts by estimated weeklyaudience and number of stations.

Here's how they shake out: RushLimbaugh, 20 million listeners per

"The best estimate now is

that nearly half of allAmericans listen to talk radio

on a regular or semi-regularbasis," says Michael

Harrison, editor of Talkers.

week; G. Gordon Liddy, 5 to 6 millionlisteners; Art Bell, 5 to 6 million lis-teners; Mike Reagan, 3.25 million; andBarry Farber, 1.8 million. (Note: As ofpress time, Art's number of affiliates for"Coast to Coast" has climbed to 175.)

The article concludes by notingthat "most industry insiders thinkClinton's [anti-talk radio] comments

will have the opposite result of whatthe president intended." QuotingBrian Jennings of SuperTalkConsultants, an Oregon-based compa-ny which advises radio stations on talkoptions, the article concludes, "'In ourindustry, there's nothing better thancriticism, and most talkers are takingthis flag and running with it,' saysJennings. 'Talk shows are doing whatrock DJs like Imus and Cousin Brucieused to do. They're saying the thingswe want to say. It's the purest form of. . ",commUnIcatIOn.

Commenting on the article, JulianHudson, Chancellor BroadcastingCompany's Director of AffiliateRelations, says: "At our rate of growthin affiliates, I expect Art to be on 200stations by Christmas, and consider-ing that many stations that carry bothRush and Liddy are not even onovernight, Art's rise to fame has beenswift and conclusive. Art Bell is nowthe most listened-to 'LIVE' overnightradio talk show host in the country-and when we say overnight, we meanalllll night." .

Source: Estimates based on Arbltron figures. Reprinted from New York Posl

LOOK WHO'S TALKING

HOSTNumber of Usteners in Millioos

(CUMUlATIVE WEEKLYAUDIENCE) Number of Stations

Rush Limbaugh 20 Million 880

G. Gordon Liddy 5.8 Million 282

Art Bell 5.8 Million 158

Mike Reagan 3.25 Million 103

Barry Farber'

1.8 Million 75

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RAMO N.A:STRA VELIN G TIPS: How to Keej!jJourSani~y-

TOP: Bob and Sue Crane with Ramona and

Art Bell, on Hong Kong's Victoria Peak.ABOVE:Entering one of Communist China's"Special Economic Zones." BOTTOMRIGHT:

Typical Chinese housing: Apartment complexin Shen Zhen in Communist China.

. No tips for a 10-hour flightFor one thing, the human rear end was

not designed to sit in an airliner seat that long.For another, no matter how large your air-plane seat is, the human body will find someuncomfortable way to sleep on it-good luck.

. Well, maybe one tip.Women should be able to have the aisle

seat in an airline so they don't have to listento their husband say, "Where are you going,honey?" It's so nice to have everyone in the

plane know that--once again-you are goingto the bathroom!

. Lost and found.Never assume your husband knowswhat

directionhe's goingin-especially in Tokyo.Now Art generallyknows where he's goingbut in this case he'd been to Tokyo before.Ever hear the expression that a little bit ofknowledge can make you dangerous?Nexttime I'll have a map drawnout.

. When you need water.When in Thailand, especially Bangkok,

alwayshave a bottle of water by the bed. It'sso hot that even in the middle of the nightyou can work up a killer thirst. Example?Art stumbles in the dark over to our room'swet bar to get one of those little bottles ofwater they have. He cracks one open andstarts to chug it down. He said it was like abomb goingoff in his head. Instead of cool,thirst-quenching water, it was JohnnyWalker Red. I thought he was going tochoke to death. The bill for the Scotch wasalso life threatening-$26.00. Remember,the dollar'snot what it used to be.

. Fearof flying?If you're wondering what it's like to travel

with Art, consider this: You're a bit nervous

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because the plane is acting like a roller coaster.So Art starts givingyou his own unique insightson the situation. Observation number one:

"You know this kind of turbulence is capableof ripping the wings right off the airplane."Observation number two: "Of course, if it did,we'd probably vaporize long before we hit thewater." Observation number three: "And if we

do hit the water, your survivaltime is probablyshort" Thanks honey, I needed that!

. Homeagain.The biggest thing I learned is that I love

my husband very much, but the 11 days Ispent with him was more than enough for onecontinuous event. You listen to the show, so

you know. Art's an intense experience. Pitythe white knuckled flyer. .

More trip photos on page 8

From The High Desert...THE ROAD TO HONG KONG-AND BACK

By Art Bell

I've always told you that unlessyou get away from America youdon't fully appreciate what we've

got here. Well, let me add to that tru-ism. Unless you get to see what's hap-pening in China, you can't reallyappreciate it. It's staggering. It'shuge. It's scary.

Consider the fact that China has1.3 billion people. America has about260 million. So they've got a "one bil-lion people" advantage when it comesto pure "labor force" potential. Youcan add to that another kind of poten-tial, a fairly new reality in CommunistChina-what they call "special eco-nomic zones" (seephoto, page 2). Wevisited one called Shen Zhen and theword "special" doesn't quite cover it."Spectacular" is more accurate.

In this new China the national birdis the Crane-the ConstructionCrane. Everywhere you look, build-ings are going up. Everywhere youlook, trucks are on the roads carryingconstruction materials. At the bordersthere are long lines of trucks, empty ifthey are entering China, and packedwith products if they are leaving toforeign markets. Government givescommerce the right-of-way in allcases. The only regulating that seemsto go on is "regulating" the people sothey don't get in the way of business.

The Chinese are serious aboutcompeting with the world, and if thiskeeps up, it won't be much of a com-petition. Even Japan's economicengine will soon compare to China'son the level of a fruitfly vs Godzilla.Am I being clear enough? I promisedthe folks on my tour that I would doeverything I could to get word of thisto you. So this is it. The UnitedStates better respond aggressively-and that means joint ventures. We aremanagers, thinkers, innovators-andeither we make use of that talent orelse. It was Khrushchev who said he'dbury us; it may be the Chinese whoactUally do it.

Ironically, one of China's mainadvantages over the U.S. is also its

Achilles heel. Call it "jack-bootedcapitalism" because that's what it is.They are-and make no mistakeabout this-a totalitarian state. What

they lack in decency, freedom, andhuman rights they make up for inpure "fascist" efficiency-at least intheir "special economic zones."Here's an Orwellian chill for you:They don't allow older folks to live inthese "special" zones.. That's right,only the young get to work there.Once you are over the age of 40 or soyour time is up. Meanwhile, theyoung are sought for their natural

The Chinese are seriousabout competing with theworld, and if this keeps

up, it won't be much of acompetition. Even Japan'seconomic engine will sooncompare to China's on the

level of a fruitfly vs Godzilla.

exuberance, their raw energy, andtheir willingness to be exploited; it'stheir only way to escape the soul-deadening Communist "life" theygrew up with, a life that continues infull force back over the border, out-side the "special zones."

You have to see to believe thefaces of the border guards as youleave the Chinese "special zone" andenter Communist China. These areunhappy people-and they don'twant you to be happy either. Theydon't want you to even know anyonewho is happy. Our Communist guide(we changed guides at the "specialeconomic zone" border) made a pointof letting us know that we didn't wantto step out of line. Do that and it'sstraight to Beijing for you while thewhole tour grinds to a dead stop. Wetook the hint and stayed in line-pretty much. Bob Crane and I and ourlovely wives kept making a break forit, just to sample "real CommunistChina." Bob even tried some "food"

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cooked right on the street. And Imean on the street! This was hard-core (not for tourists) don't-eat-me-unless-you-plan to-be-sick-for-a-weektype "stuff." Bob ate it. That's whywe love him. No guts, no glory, right?

Despite the gray, unhappy look sotypical of Communist countries, con-struction in the Communist sector isalso very impressive. It may, however,have less to do with real capitalinvestment than it does with keepingthe guys busy over at the"Department of Keeping Busy." Youknow, move the stone here-movethe stone there-break for lunch.What's the old Communist joke? "Wepretend to work and they pretend topay us."

It's a common sight over there tosee twenty older women sweeping astreet (with brooms, mind you). Nosurprise. When you have a billionpeople to keep busy, you can invest afew seniors to keep a street clean. Butthat's old Communist China. In the

"special zones," they do pay-and byChinese standards, the rivers are run-ning with gold. But what makes Chinaa truly serious threat is the absolutecontrol it has over this huge, eager-to-please labor force which knows howto work.

Foreigners flow capital into the"special zones;" they geta greatreturn on their investment whileChina gets to build its infrastructureat a rapid rate, supplying more oppor-tUnities in "special zones" for moreinvestors and corporate partners tomake huge profits-all the while sup-plying them with the cheap labor nec-essary to maintain this "free-market"feeding frenzy. Of course, one day,just like Japan, China will have theinfrastructure; they'll have the capital;and they'll still have the labor force-to put it bluntly, they'll own thegame.Enter Godzilla.Exit fruitfly..

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Feature Article

AN INTERVIEW WITH PATBUCHANANRecently Art Bell interviewed Pat

Buchanan, a declared Republican presi-dential candidate. Buchanan was a senior

advisor to three American presidents.From 1966 to 1974 he was assistant and

confidant to Richard Nixon and GeraldFord, andfrom 1985 to 1987 he was WhiteHouse Director of Communications forRonald Reagan.

In December 1991, Mr. Buchanan

challenged President GeorgeBush for the1992 Republican Presidential nomination.A journalist by vocation, Mr. Buchananwrites a twice-a-week syndicated column,and also co-hosts the nightly CNN televi-sion show, "Crossfire."Onjuly 5,1993, hebegan hosting a daily 3-hour MutualRadio talk show of his own, Pat Buchananand Company. Here are some highlights ofArt's interview with Pat Buchanan.

Art: Of all the candidates in the field,Pat, I like you the best. But I'm going toask you some tough questions. In 1992,you scared the pants off of GeorgeBush. A lot of pundits are suggestingyou're not going to be able to repeatthe performance with respect to BobDole. How is it going?

Pat: I think, Art, the Lord put pun-dits on this Earth to be embarrassed.These are the same fellows that saidGoldwater couldn't be nominated,Nixon could never be elected, Reaganwas washed up in '76, and GeorgeBush was invincible. I think we have afighting chance of winning this nomi-nation. We have 11 months to go,instead of 10 weeks like I had lasttime. Bob Dole is not as strong asGeorge Bush was, and I am muchstronger now than I was then. I think itis wide open for everyone right now.Art: If you get the nomination, whatwould a race between Bill Clinton andPat Buchanan be like?

Pat: Bill Clinton is vulnerable, butnobody should write him off. I thinkthe race would be, on my part, first tounite the Republican Party behind me.There would be some Wall StreetRepublicans who are more than unen-thusiastic about me. It would then be arace to get the Reagan Democrats backin the fold; Ronald Reagan brought inthe social issue conservatives. And

"Asecurity fence would be thefirst order of business of the

Buchanan administration. A dou-

ble-linked security fence overthose 66 miles and 95% of the

illegal immigrationwould bestopped cold."

then, it would be a battle for the Perotvote, the "United We Stand" people.For these folks, I think my standsagainst NAFTA, against GATT,against the whole New World Order,for restoring sovereignty, for no more

Mexican bailouts, would be a com-pelling argument. I think we could puttogether the coalition to win.

These are critical issues. TheGATT agreement was designed withthese multinational companies inmind, so they can shut down theirplant here, put it in Singapore orIndonesia, make the products withlabor that is about 5% the cost of ours,dump the products back in the U.S.,and kill their competition that stayedhome and kept employing Americanworkers. I think we are moving theParty toward the Buchanan position onthis issue. We have to bring the Partyover to a position of "economic patrio-tism," as I call it, where the U.S. gov-ernment starts looking out forAmerican businesses, American work-ers, and American jobs, and stops wor-rying about some global New WorldOrder.

Art: When Ronald Reagan became pres-ident, there were a lot of stories thatthe big boys, the really big boys,walked in and more or less demanded

that Reagan take Bush. These bigboys-are they going to let you be pres-ident, Pat?

Pat: If I break through in NewHampshire and come out as the win-ner, or as the powerful challenger tonumber one Bob Dole, I think I canwin the nomination. And I think heav-en and earth will fall upon me from the

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big boys, as you describe them,because they will not want me nomi-nated. But by then I will be running todaylight, and the American people willrally to me. They didn't want RonaldReagan either, but Reagan did it.

By the way, Art, I'll tell you whyRonald Reagan picked George Bushthat night in Detroit-I was there.When negotiations putting GeraldFord on the ticket broke down overFord's demands on the Reaganites-Reagan's people had made him looksomewhat ridiculous-Reagan movedimmediately to put that story behindhim by going to the convention halland an'nouncing his vice president,George Bush. There's no doubt theestablishment wanted Bush as VP, butI think Ronald Reagan chose him onthe spur of the moment because theFord deal collapsed.Art: There was a big disturbance atyour presidential announcement, peo-ple calling you antisemitic and racist.What is it that you have done that hascaused your detractors to label youantisemitic and racist?

Pat: The charge is that I defendedthe alleged Nazi war criminal, JohnDemjanjuk, which I did beginning in1982. I said it was a case of mistakenidentity, that this was not the greatestwar criminal in history, this was notthe "Beast of Treblinka." And for tenyears this issue went on and on. It wasargued back and forth, Demjanjuk wasdeported, his citizenship taken away,

he was to be sent to the Soviet Unionwhere he would have been hanged,but we stopped that. He was then sentto Israel, put on trial, convicted in oneof the greatest war crimes trials of thepost-war era, and was about to behanged-when the Supreme Court ofIsrael said, courageously and honor-ably, that this was a case of mistakenidentity, that the man is innocent.That is what I had said for ten years.

The U.S Justice Department wasaccused by U.S. courts of fraud, when

"The GATT agreement was

designed with these multinationalcompanies in mind, so they canshut down their plant here, put itin Singapore or Indonesia, makethe products with laborthat is

about 5% the cost of ours, dumpthe products back in the U.S., andkill their competitionthat stayed

home and kept employingAmericanworkers."

they discovered it had withheld evi-dence from the defense. I was provenright, and Demjanjuk was broughtback to the United States.Art: Then why aren't the signs denounc-ing you coming down?

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Pat: There are still many whobelieve he is guilty; if he was not the"Beast of Treblinka," they believe hewas "the Beast" of somewhere else.They still believe that I was defendinga Nazi war criminal. I believe that isthe main reason that I, long ago astrong supporter of Israel, am calledthese names and will be until the day Idie. That was the best journalism Iever did, and I am proud of the role Ihad in freeing a man I believed to betotally innocent of any war crimes.Art: My assessment of Bob Dole is thathe is a good man. But he has been aMinority Leader and now a MajorityLeader in the Congress, and that job isa job of compromise. I'm not sure thatis good training ground for the presi-dency.

Pat: I share your view almost exact-ly, Art, which is also PresidentEisenhower's view. Eisenhower said,"Do not get your presidents off CapitalHill. Do not get them out ofCongress," because compromise isbuilt into them. I think Bob Dole gen-uinely believes in governance throughcompromise. He believes in splittingthe difference with his opponents. Ithink he believes basically in the gov-ernment as it exists today, with somemodifications. I don't think that is

good enough for America in 1997.Anyone that has spent that long onCapitol Hill, and has been involved inthat many decisions and compromiseson taxes and quotas and so on is notgoing to come into the presidency withthe kind of energy and fire that is nec-essary to rectify the wrongs that Ithink exist up there.

I agree with you, Bob Dole is a goodman, he is Medal of Freedom material.But I don't think he stands out wherehe should be right now; I honestlydon't see what the difference would bebetween a Bush administration and aDole Administration.Art: About the Mexican Peso bailout.Indications are that the $20 billionfrom our fund to their fund hasn't donevery much. The Peso continues to fall,it's in big trouble. Who got that done?Is it the same big boys we talked abouta little while ago?

Pat: You're exactly right. TheAmerican people rose up in wrathwhen that was proposed to be donelegislatively, Art. And so Bill Clinton

did it by executive order, with theapproval of the Republican leadershipin Congress which refused to fight it oroppose it. What happened again is theNew York banks were hanging on thehook out there with all this lousypaper. They suddenly discovered thatMexico can't payoff its loans. So theygot their friends in Washington, Me.Greenspan and Me. Rubin, to go to thePresident and concoct this schemewhereby the banks would be taken offthe hook, and the American taxpayerput on. That is exactly what's happen-ing. We send the money to MexicoCity, we make the new loans, guaran-teed by U.S. taxpayers. Mexico takesthe money, sends it back to New York,pays off the bad loans the New Yorkbanks are holding, they get off free,we're on the hook, and the money willnever ever be paid back. And we'llprobably have to be sending downmore right after this $20 billion.Art: Let's say things continue to deteri-orate. Following economic deteriora-tion there usually is political deteriora-tion, and my goodness, we don't havemuch of a border. I've heard you talkabout building a wall, and I've been infavor of that as well. Why aren't wedoing it?

Pat: We're not doing it because ourleaders in Washington, in both parties,are terrified of being calling the namesI was called: "nativist," "xeno-phobe"-those are the latest in thelexicon of nasty names to be called in

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Pat: We don't have the votes to getthe Constitutional amendmentthrough. One of the problems is thatthe Republicans don't have their heartin it. They're not working for termlimits the way they worked for the bal-anced Budget amendment in theHouse, because some of them don'tbelieve in it.Art: They lost their heart November 8.

Pat: They say, "Listen, now thatwe're in, why do we need term lim-its?" In other words, they're saying:"This was a ploy, a tactic to use againstthe incumbent Democrats. Now that

we have power and have the good guysin, we don't need 'em." Well, we doneed 'em. I think what voters and yourlisteners ought to insist on is term lim-its of three terms and out for Housemembers, two terms and out forSenate members, in a Constitutionalamendment. If that goes down todefeat, we can go out and campaignagainst those that defeated it. At thesame time, both Houses of Congress,by a 50% vote can pass a law whichsays simply that the states of the unionhave the right to set limits on theircongressional delegations-term lim-its. That would guarantee the 22 statesthat have already done it by voter ini-tiative, it would enable other states toset them, and it would create the pres-sure and precedent so that eventually'we would have a Constitutionalamendment.Art: Welfare. What should we do?

Pat: All the welfare programs of theGreat Society should be sent back tothe states so each state can determinewhat kind of welfare program it wantsto forge. Will it be lavish or spare?Tough love or overly generous? Eachstate decides for itself, and the votersin each state can then deal with theirown legislators and governors who pro-pose those programs. This is the onlyway we are going to cut that federalbudget, through a 10th Amendment

- approach. Get the federal governmentout of areas where it has no business.Get it back to the states and let themserve as 50 different social laboratories.

Washington, D.C. They're politicallyafraid of these terms. But a countrythat can't defend its borders is noteven a country any more. All youwould need is a security fence along 66miles of that border where all the main

crossing points are.I drove across Florida the other day,

and I noticed an eight-foot chain-link

"We have to bringthe Partyoverto a position of 'economic patrio-tism,' as I call it, where the U.S.

government starts looking out forAmerican businesses, American

workers, and American jobs, and

stops worrying about some

global New World Order."

fence topped with barbed wire on bothsides of the road. That fence was there

to keep poachers out of the Evergladesso they wouldn't harm the wildlife orthe environment. They'll protect theEverglades, but they won't protect theborder of the United States. A securityfence would be the first order of busi-ness of the Buchanan administration. Adouble-linked security fence overthose 66 miles and 95% of the illegalimmigration would be stopped cold.And the Border Patrol would have aneasy time of it, instead of being threat-ened by some of these fellows and

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TOP: Group picture taken in front of the

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D~fAMLAND REPORtIn depth explorations of subjects and guests featured on Art Bell's weekly radio program "Dreamland"

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people conjure up images of Copernicus:;indGalileo being persecUted for claim-ing the world was round. Yet, accordingto Art Bell's recent "Dreamland" guest,].W. McGinnis, President of theInternational Tesla Society, our own erahas seen the wholesale suppression ofamazing technologies-most of it thework of one man: Nikola Tesla.

Indeed, there is a tantalizing mixtureof hard evidence and anecdotal confirma-tion that, had certain of Tesla's inven-tions been developed and put into theservice of mankind, today we would allbe enjoying free and unlimited energy,new and more effective therapies forcancer and other diseases, and a host ofother mind-boggling, futuristic techno-logical innovations.

During his career, Tesla registered andpatented over 100 inventions in the U.S.,and over 700 worldwide, including radio,the alternating current motor, bladelessturbines and pumps, high frequency,high voltage circuitry, the Tesla coil, gen-erators of high-frequency currents, logiccircuits, robotics, a system of arc lighting,a system of wireless communication, ~system of transmitting electric powerwithout wires, aeronautics, and elec-trotherapeutics. Today, Tesla's manyinventions permeate the industrial world.

Extraordinary mental imagesBorn in 1856 in what was then known

as the Austro~Hungarian Empire, Teslawas tormented throughout his childhoodby extraordinary mental images that hecreated inadvertently. With time, hedeveloped increasing control over his

The only photo of himself Mikola Tesla wanted to be

remembered by, sitting in front of his Tesla Coil.

At the age of five, while

observing and playing with a

simple pinwheel in a stream,Tesla conceptualized what was

later to be known as the"bladeless turbine."

unusual thought processes, and his child-hood liab~lity became a powerful asset,enabling Tesla to construct and testinventions long before he put them topaper or model.

In Tesla's day, scientists were stillsometimes referred to as "naturalphilosophers," and his inventionsdemonstrate Tesla's intimate knowl-edge of nature. At the age of five,while observing and playing with asimple pinwheel in a stream, Teslaconceptualized what was later to beknown as the "bladeless turbine."With the encouragement of hisextremely inventive mother, Tesla

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became one of the greatest inventorsthe world has ever seen. ].W.McGinnis helps After Dark shed lighton some of Tesla's more notable, andcontroversial, achievements:

Wireless electricity"Tesla invented a way of transmitting

electricity through the earth itself,explains McGinnis. "After all, ;the earthis composed of aboUt 98% silicon, whichis an excellent conductor, even betterthan copper. The~efore, it is possible totransport electricity very efficientlythrough the earth itself."

McGinnis describes how, back in1899, Tesla demonstrated wireless elec-trical transmission at his headquarters inColorado Springs: "He constructed a lab-orat;ory, the focus of which was hisMagnifying Transmitter, a device thatcould deliver an immense amount ofelectricity at anyone given spot. Afterpreparing his experiment, Tesla called inthe public and press, stationing reportersat the laboratory. Meanwhile, north ofColorado Springs about 26 miles away,he set up a bank of 250 fifty-watt lightbulbs on top of one of the area's foothills.Then he waited until night, fired up hisMagnifying Transmitter, and injected atremendous amount of voltage into theground. The earth, now acting as a capac-itor charged with all of this 'juice,' imme-diately lit up those lights."

However, as McGinnis is quick topoint out, electricity itself "has but onemission, and that is to go to ground." Sosimply injecting huge amounts of elec-tricity into the earth could not, in itself,have lit up those light bulbs. It seemsthat Tesla had also devised an apparatuscapable of attracting positive ions oUt ofthe ionosphere and bringing them downto a charged ground point in a pencil-thin

A licensed radio engineer by profession, InternationalTesla Society President J.W. McGinnis has been a fea-

tured personality 'on the Discovery Channel, NationalPublic Radio, and many other radio and TV stations

throughout the U.S. and Japan. In addition to lecturingnationally on the works and technologies of Nlkola Tesla,

McGinnis has sought out and discovered major indepen-dent scientific researchers and experimenters who havehad to do their research outside the mainstream of ortho-

dox science. McGinnis' efforts, combined with those of

the Society's official magazine Extraordinary Science,have exposed a numberof claimantsas either fraudulentor lacking In real scientific hardware. At the same time,the Tesla Society has enabled many independent scientif-

ic researchers to gain the necessary exposure to get tothe marketplace, or to the public via research journals.

beam. "With a negative charge comingfrom the earth, and a positive chargecoming from outer space, the circuit wascomplete," says McGinnis, "and thebulbs glowed beautifully up there on thehilL" No one has duplicated this feat.

Tesla had envisioned the placementof a Magnifying Transmitter at aboutevery 50 miles, effective in a 25-mileradius, to make this amazing technologyavailable for all. Tesla's system for thewireless transmission of electricity was"his greatest scientific gift to the world,"says McGinnis. Yet it was "a gift that hasnever been brought forth commercially.Imagine, a power system that deliverselectricity anywhere in the world, with-out the hazards of wire and electro-pollu-tion." If Tesla had indeed figured outhow we could all have safe and unlimitedelectricity, why aren't we enjoying thisbenefit today?

J.P. MorganMcGinnis explains that things were

going great; J.P. Morgan, who hadfinanced Tesla's Niagara Falls system,the greatest electrical power transmissionsystem in the world, expressed greatinterest in the wireless transmission ofelectricity. "Morgan evaluated his tech-nology, and after about a week or so hetold Tesla, 'look, it's great, it's somethingI'd be interested in, but there's one thingI don't see here. I don't see where youput the meters so that when people use

this power they pay for it.' At that point,says McGinnis, Tesla told Morgan,'Well, you give the people the power.'When Tesla said that, according toMcGinnis, "his money dried up."

Unfortunately, the experiment hasnever been repeated, and the sciencewhich Tesla developed in this area isamong the many papers that wereallegedly seized by the FBI upon theinventor's death in 1943, says McGinnis.This theme of lost or suppressedsupertechnology at the hands of the fed-eral government permeates most discus-sions of the life and work of Nikola Tesla.

Cancer curesMany people today believe electro-

magnetic fields can cause detrimentaleffects in human beings, including can-cer. McGinnis agrees. "At our lab in

"Tesla felt he had contacted

people from Mars. He was sure

he had received some signal fromMars."-J.W. McGinnis

Colorado Springs," he says, "I can showwhat is occurring in these low frequencyelectromagnetic fields. They do pene-trate our bodies, they oscillate our mole-cules, which then develops this false heatin our bodies." In other words, saysMcGinnis, in the presence of strongEMF we are being cooked at low levels.

At the same time, says McGinnis, cer-tain resonant frequencies, which Teslaexplored in depth, can actually destroytumors. "We found that we can take avariety of different cancers, which dohave a resonant frequency, and you dealwith them with the same frequency,except that you elevate it and overpowerit. What happens is the cancer cell itselfis destroyed, leaving intact the tissue thatconnects with it." There's even a pub-licly-held company in Florida calledGeraldo International working on thisprocedure right now"says McGinnis."Unfortunately, they could not carry outtheir tests in this country," saysMcGinnis, and have reportedly been car-rying them out in Belgium at the requestof the Royal family.

"The cure or control of cancer is aboutas important as anything," says

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McGinnis. "Cancer has torn apart morehomes than anything you can think of,and has cost us as taxpayers enormous-ly." Regarding the procedure of usingresonant frequencies to destroy cancercells, McGinnis notes: "There are peopleout there doing it, and it is somethingthat will one day be released. I don'tknow how much longer they can holdthe technology back."

Tesla was very prominent in the fieldof medicine, says McGinnis. "As early as1891 he discovered the 'skin effect'which allowed the body to pass thou-sands of volts of electricity without harm.He developed high frequency devicesfor the treatment of injuries and othertherapeutic practices. Today," commentsMcGinnis, "electrotherapies face fierceopposition from well-heeled drug compa-nies that appear to be using the FDA as afront to squash alternative treatments."

Earthquake in a boxMcGinnis relates one story about

when Tesla was traveling throughManhattan. "He came across a demoli-

tion crew tearing down some buildingsand told them: 'You guys are working toohard. What you really need is a devicelike this.' " What allegedly occurred thenis the stuff legends are made of. "Hetook this device that was the size of a cig-arette box and applied it to a building,and immediately the whole island startedto shake and quake all over the place.Then Tesla removed it from the build-ing and the quaking stopped. When itwas reported in TheNew York Times, theheadline read 'Earthquake on Manhattan

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Island?' But the text of the story said no,it was not an earthquake, it was justNikola Tesla experimenting with one ofhis new devices.' At the given rate ofoscillations in this device, it was sup-posed to exceed the speed of light; thatwould be something that is oscillatingsomewhere in the area of a trillion cyclesper second." Believe it or not.

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RadioScience textbooks and encyclopedias

generally credit Guglielmo Marconi withthe invention of radio. Yet in July, 1943-six months after Tesla's death-the u.S.Supreme Court threw out the Marconipatent applications and ruled that Tesla"had priority" in radio, that is, deservedcredit for its invention, not Marconi. Priorto that time, Marconi had applied for pri-ority in radio on three different occasionsand had been turned down by patentexaminers each time. "Marconi workedfor Edison," comments McGinnis, "andthey cheated Tesla out of the residualshe deserved from radio." Because of thelitigation that continued over the courseof decades, Tesla died without gettingthe patent residuals due him. However,European radio companies paid Tesla hisroyalties. The rivalry between superin-ventors Nikola Tesla and ThomasEdison is another common theme inaccounts of the life and work of Tesla.

EdisonTesla's greatest ambition when he

came to America was to work for ThomasAlva Edison. Carrying a letter of intro-duction from Edison's manager in Paris,where Tesla had already worked onEdison's dynamos and made them muchmore efficient, Tesla came to Americaand finally met Edison face to face. "Theletter," says McGinnis, "said, and I para-phrase: Dear Me. Edison, This is NikolaTesla, a man who, like you, can changethe destiny of man."

McGinnis describes what happenedthen: "Edison looked at Tesla and said(again paraphrasing): 'If I were to hireyou, just what would you do for me?'Tesla replied to the effect that 'the firstthing I would do would be to make yourDC generators much more efficient.'When Tesla said that to Edison, he wasactually slapping him in the face,because in engineering, as well as in

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other parts of life, the important factor isconcept.When Edison had seen his DCgenerators throwing sparks all over theplace, he said: 'Look at the enormouspower here, we've got sparks flying allover.' But Tesla recognized the faultwithin Edison's generators; he saw themas wasting all of this energy in spark-spark that should be converted to elec-tricity."

After working for two years, Tesla hadfinished 26 different models of Edison's

generators. "He put them on the table,"says McGinnis, "and Edison thankedhim for doing this revision on them andmaking them much more salable. Theproblem was, Edison had been so sure ofhis dynamos that he had told Tesla, 'ifyou can make these more efficient, I'llgive you $50,000.' So now Tesla said, 'Iappreciate your thanking me for improv-ing the dynamos, but where's the fifty?'Edison looked at him and said, 'youknow, the problem with you, Tesla, is,you foreigners don't understandAmerican humor. I was only kiddingabout the $50,000.' Tesla quit himimmediately and went to work for theNew York subway system," saysMcGinnis.

Despite what to all appearances was afierce professional rivalry, there is evi-dence that Tesla and Edison, at least inlater years, were close personally. "I havetalked to Charles Hummel, who does thepromotions for the Edison Foundation,"recalls McGinnis. "He put the matter in

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context, telling me that hatred did notexist between the two men. He pro-duced a letter for me from Edison toTesla, inviting Tesla to attend Edison'sdaughter's wedding. It was a very warmand sincere type of letter, which leadsme to believe that although they wereperhaps the strongest of rivals profession-ally, they were personally good friends."

The Mars ConnectionThe conspiratorial cloud that hovers

over the life of Nikola Tesla-with itsimplications of the government's confis-cation of futuristic technology and itspresumed secret utilization of same, nodoubt to increase its control over thepopulation- is strange. Bur there issomething even more strange about thelife of Nikola Tesla. It seems Teslabelieved that he was receiving communi-cations from extraterrestrial beings. UFObuffs and serious ufologists who theorizethat certain advanced technologies havecome to us by way of extraterrestrialbeings can take heart from the words ofJ,W. McGinnis: "Tesla felt he had con-tacted people from Mars. He was sure hehad received some signal from Mars."The prospect of Tesla's fantastic scien-tific insights and inventions coming fromanother planet or dimension is just onemore enigma to savor in contemplatingthe incredible life and work of Tesla.

Nikola Tesla said he would be dead fora hundred years before technology wouldcatch up to him-not surprising when yourealize that he first introduced laser tech-nology in 1908. Since Tesla died in 1943,that means we now have only 48 years togo before we have unlimited clean energyfor all! Of course, individuals will alsohave the power to cause earthquakes atwill. Oh well, technology always has beena double-edged sword. .

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quarterly issues of their official magazine,Extraordinary Science. The Society's 1995"ExtraordinaryScience Conference"will be heldJuly 20-23 in ColoradoSprings.

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THE BIRTH OF DREAMLANDByA1anCorbetb, President, CBC

Every morning here at the network,the mailman drops in and joyfullydeposits a hefty armload of mail.

I'm not sure if the mailman is genuinelyhappy to see-us or if he's just relieved todump several pounds of dead weightfrom his bag. Either way, we get ourmail. As president of the network Ireserve the right to sort through this"mountain" myself.

I can keep tabs on the checks (yeah),the bills (boo), and the delicious assort-ment of catalogs, inquiries, fan mail, andjunk mail. Then I deliver the companymail to everybody around the office. Oneday a few weeks ago, a staffer here at thenetwork remarked, "Hey Corbeth, whatif when you were a kid, a psychic had avision of you at this exact moment intime?" I was thinking the psychic wouldhave seen me as an executive running aradio network producing shows likeDreamland and Coast to Coast, and talk-ing to Art Bell on the phone. Then sud-denly I understood the true meaning ofwhat had just happened. At that slice intime, the psychic would have seen thisguy who had just turned 50, deliveringthe office mail.

Had I known at an early age that I wasto become a mail boy, this informationcould have ruined my intuition for life.How can it be our destiny to see ourfuture? Then again, is it even possible tosee into the future in the first place? Canyou see the problem I have with all thispsychic stuff?

Over the past several years, Art Belland I have spent many an hour debatingthe subject of psychic phenomena,UFOs, and life after death. Art, on onehand, eats it all up. I, on the other hand,give Art a hard time about it. It has madefor some very lively discussion. So Imentioned to Art that all this controversybelongs on the radio. After all, if we cankill hours talking about it, perhaps mil-lions of others would enjoy joining in onthe dialogue. We might even learn some-thing.

So about two years ago Art starteddoing a program on KDWN, Las Vegascalled "Area 2000." The show was spon-sored in part by the Bigello Foundation

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and was designed to take a sober andthoughtful look at the paranormal. TheBigello Foundation is a very serious psy-chic research organization and did notwant anything other than legitimate top-ics and guests. As for the reception of"Area 2000," as I suspected, it was rightfrom the start "a natural" with Art andwith the audience.

This, of course, was predictable, as Arthad done many great classic UFO andpsychic phenomena shows on "Coast toCoast," and they had been immenselypopular. Most of you will remember theprograms with John Lear, Professor JohnMack, Linda Moulton Howe, AI Belick,the annual ghost show, and many otherstoo numerous to mention.

Just as I knew our overnight show wasunique and certain to be a success, I wasequally convinced that "Area 2000"would be a hit. People would call theovernight show weeks after a UFO guestappeared, to discuss this or that aboutthe program; it always generated excite-ment. It was this feeling that led me toask Art if he could handle working asixth day. That's right, a sixth day.

Understand that most radio peopledoing a weekday show are on the air twohours daily. Three at most. Mr. Bell is oneach night for a marathon five hours. Ifyou're thinking a five hour workday isn'tvery much, let me remind you that Artprepares at least four hours daily for theshow. As you know, he's a news junkie.Furthermore, he pre-records commer-

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cials, promos, and custom station "liners"for our affiliates. The reality of the situa-tion is that Art works somewherebetween 10 and 12 hours a day. Whenmajor breaking news occurs, I've seenhim work 18 or 19 hours.

With Art being a workaholic, as wellas someone who really enjoys broadcast-ing, the answer was predictable. Weworked out the business arrangements,changed the name of "Area 2000" to"Dreamland" (Art's choice) and officiallylaunched the national program onFebruary 26, 1994 with seven affiliates.As of this writing, the show has 120 affili-ates, with dozens of new stations inter-ested in joining the show over the com-ing months.

Art's willingness to explore the para-normal, his unique style, and his fantasticknack for being able to entertain andinform at the same time, will insure that"Dreamland" remains the prominentshow of its kind in the nation.

Now, if a psychic had shown little boyArt Bell a slice of his future life, giventhe way Art works there is an excellentchance he would have seen that he wasdestined to do something very big. I'llhave to ask him if some aliens showedhim a film of his future when he was akid, or if angels told him what to do, or ifhe had visions or something that showedhim the way. I love to get Art all workedup like that. But I have to be careful. Hemay start addressing all of his faxes tome, in care of the CBC mail boy. .

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"I would try to make anAmerica where we once

again looked upon oneanother as members of a

family, no longer ruled bythings such as reverse

discrimination, and where

we no longer accepted theidea that it was patrioticto send our factories andbusinesses abroad whileAmerican real income at

home was declining at asteady rate."

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Art: What did you mean when you said,"There is going to be a religious war"?

Pat: The term "culture war," refer-ring to the deep divisions in beliefs inAmerica today, has the aspect of a reli-gious war, in the sense that weAmericans disagree on everything. Eventhe most basic things that we used toagree on, whether God exists, whetherthere is an afterlife-we disagree onwhat life is all about.

On one side there are those who sayGod is the author oflife, and that we can'tinterrupt life withabortion, we can't endlife with assisted sui-cide and euthanasia,that marriage is theproper relationshipbetween men andwomen... The otherside says: Listen, it allbegins here and endshere; we can do abor-tions if we wish, peo-ple who are very sickshould be put out oftheir misery withassisted suicide andeuthanasia; as for sex-ual relations, it makesno difference as longas it's voluntary, any-thing is right. Theseare the most fundamental disagree-ments and differences people canhave, and they are at the heart of thegreat struggle going on about what isright and wrong, what is good and badin America. It permeates our societyright now. It is this profound divisionover our most basic beliefs that is atthe heart of the cultural war for thesoul of America.Art: Newt Gingrich said that gays oughtto be welcome in the Republican Party.Should the Republicans have that big anumbrella?

Pat: I don't believe in the so-called"big tent" theory, which in my judg-ment means that any view is equal invalue. Republicans should stand forsomething. We stand for traditionalvalues, I believe we should stand forright to life, low taxes, strong defense,small government. But once we make

our positions known, we should not, ofcourse, run around and inspect thepassports of everyone who wants tohelp us out. You don't have to agreewith us 100%. And I do not believe inpersecution or harassment of homosex-uals. But Art, when folks say, "Wehave a political agenda where we wanthomosexuality put on the same level asbeing black or being a woman, andincluded in the Civil Rights Act, andwe want homosexual relations put onthe same level as marriage," we've got

to stand up and say,"Look, we don'tbelieve in that, webelieve that's wrong."Then you can say,"Listen, if folks wantto help us out becausethey believe in lowertaxes, they believe innot getting involvedin wars where no vitalnational interest isinvolved, we welcomeyour support."Art: Our military:There are charges it ishollow. I know ourpeople are good, butwe have cut back a lot.Have we gone too far?

Pat: Ever since theCold War ended wehave been drawingdown resources dra-

matically. We've drawn down aboutthe size of the army of Desert Storm.Yet we now have commitments in thePersian Gulf, dual containment,defending Kuwait, defending theKurds and Shiites; they're talkingabout expanding NATO right up tothe borders of Russia, putting troops inthe Golan Heights, putting troops inMacedonia... I think we better take alook at our assets and liabilities,because we could have an insolventforeign policy, where our militaryassets don't cover all the liabilities wesaid we would cover.Art: That brings us to Russia andYeltsin. The rumor is that Yeltsin is notlong for this world, and that his succes-sor will be somebody in the militarythere.

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Pat: I would say he'll be gone fairlysoon... And I do think there's a real

probability that down the road we aregoing to get a hard nationalist whowill reflect the Russian bitterness,anger and rage at the fact that theywere once a great super-power, andnow they are almost a strugglingThird World country. The new lead-er's mandate will be to restore someof the glory of Mother Russia whichcan stand toe to toe with the U.S.A.Art: Great. So I guess we better keepour powder dry.

Pat: Yes. This is a long-term prob-lem. We should support the institu-tions in Russia, but we should not betall our chips on anyone man the waywe did on Gorbachev, and the way weseem to on Yeltsin.Art: George Bush never quite answeredit properly, because a lot of peoplethought he didn't have any: "Thevision thing." This is a good chance foryou to describe Pat Buchanan'sAmerica. What would you do, Pat?

Pat: Art, what I would do is try tocreate the kind of constitutionalrepublic in this country that theFounding Fathers dreamed of, rooted

in the beliefs that put them out onLexington Green and at ConcordBridge. I would try to make anAmerica where we once again lookedupon one another as members of afamily, no longer ruled by things suchas reverse discrimination, and wherewe no longer accepted the idea that it

"We are confident we are

going to have enough moneyto be fully and fiercely

competitive in the first sixprimaries. If we do well there,

money will be no problem."

was patriotic to send our factories andbusinesses abroad while Americanreal income at home was declining ata steady rate. It's an America wherewe look out for one another and lookout for our own country in the worldand maintain the ideas that werehanded down to us by some of thegreatest people on the face of theearth.

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basically have to depend on smalldonors and phone calls and mailinglists and things like that, because thebig money is not going to be comingin for us.Art: Are you going to have enoughmoney?

Pat: We are confident we aregoing to have enough money to befully and fiercely competitive in the

. first six primaries. If we do wellthere, money will be no problem.And if the other fellows have notdone well in those early primaries,their big bankrolls from Wall Streetare not going to save them. If we dowell early, we can win it all, Art. Ibelieve in my heart I could be thenext president of the United Statesif folks will help me out.Art: If it doesn't work, Pat, are youback to "Crossfire"?

Pat: I can come back to CNN any-time if this does not go through, butI think what we are going to bedoing is, we're going to set up"Crossfire" and do it from CampDavid.Art: Listen, my friend. I'm with youand I wish you well, and as they say,"Go Pat go!" .

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