Énzi cüntrÂsted....our mots as iegislatiri to our own consciences only. i ask the senate the n,...

M1aXÉNZI2AND MACDONALD GOVERNMENTS CüNTRÂSTED.

11tR. BROWN'S SP1]ECjÏ ..O N

THE FIiANCES. OF CA NADA .

UrtswA, 21st March, 187The order - of the day having been °oalled for' resnining the. debsteon lir. Maopherson'e notioV, " Tlie,t he will oall attention to the public"expenditirre of the Dominion, eu eoiallty that portion of it wh,irit is" lqrgely, withinthe control of the ' dmintrtre,tion; and will inquire of'the Government how it is propused to restore the equihhrium be-twéen ;inaome and expenditure .'" . , ~AQN. - GEORGE BROWN said :-I rite to make a fewobaerv'ation eon the subject that has been brought under our notice by the Aon,

l~enator opposite ( M,,, Maopherson), and whioh was under discussionwhen we âcljouimed last night . But, before praoeedirig to 'do so, Itrust the 8ena4 will;bear with me for a m oment while I say a• fewwords in regard to the loarn~ in whio this runtter hae bean re rited `V aeto us by the hok Senatior, and the peculiar ohareoter .of • the debatew'hich has arisen from it. The notice given by 'the h n . gentlemanwrts,c ►f~a .definite, question'to be pntto ,the,Secretgry of l~tate.' Now,as the rules of the ~enate do not debar, discussion on putting a guèii:tion to the qoverq,ment, of which -net"cer has been formally given, Itake no exception to clisQUSSiprt having~) en .raiaod now. , I think ourrnles shouldd be amended on this point, but this is not the time to con . ~•sider that. But what I do desire to call the special attention 'of the,Senate to is the Inoonvenient and unjust use that has been made ofthi»'laaity, of order pn,the ,ptesent otwaaion . Under cover, of , thisnotice of a,question that might have been i')ut and ane d' ,

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wore in twominutes, the hon. gentleman rises to disoharge a furioue, phillippiu •against• the 'Administration ; rambles &er the entire field ; of partypolitice ; drags. in' every oonee3vablé or ïnoonoeivable matter, that hesupposes will serve his purpose of detraction ;'indulgés in eriore and'misetatémente, without end ; and fulminates wild charges of, yraete andextravagance that have been` again and again ehown`. to be utterlyQroundlass . Nay, the, hon . gentleman vsntû~e l to go still farthor

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' than this ,-ho ventured- to in,sirrunto, without n.1ma, place, or ►1at0being given, what he muA have known amounted to a charge ofrfri►udon the .prirt of the Ad ►uini ►stration-

Mr. ly1ACP11 F:Ka0,9 - In,wh at instance ►lid I ►ln .that ?Mr. Btcowrr--Tho bon. gentleman did it more than once . When

refArring to the dHfioiti►n tÎ► Q Receipts and E X1)end'► turo4 of 1877, hotried to cast abroad the insinuation that the Public Accounts Were nottruly rna► le np or the ► leEicit would have hoen, i;reater. . fie sa id thathe, haci been told by sunjebotiy or other that accounts ►vere purposuly ,,kept k►ack,'so as to force a balance and lesson the defieit o f the yi►ar.He deplore l the unreliability of. Ccnin ► itteos,uf the Ilouse of Qom-mono, and hinted at a Royal Comiuissic►n as the only modo of gottiiigat the faéts. And this outragenas insinuation lie accompanied wi,lhthe intimation that ho cunld not voucb fnr , the truth of the story hehad been t►ttering, and would not be hola responsible for it . In allmy , knowlddge of Parliatne,rntary discussion I - have never known so

Yrave a chat e priifc~rre►1 agai ►iet the Ciov©rncnont of the d+~y,' withoutaot or ptyiba iltty tq sustain it, and with sa mean a loophole of escape

from rosponaibility ,oocill.y attached to it. And the hon. gentleman inhis statement was as reckless of the interests of his.conntry aehe wasttnju st: tu the G4c►vernrn"t. I im confident I am within bounds when1 aay that a hundred chrir es of grearer or lees magnitude were ►lis-oli : irgecl or insinuated by the hon, gentleman against the Administra- ~tion--onirur two of them pr+►bably based on tacts to which d ifferencoof opinion might honestly exist, but the great nuise of them atterlybaseleeu. For exarople, only,.think of the hon gentleman bittérly as-railic4 the Administration 'becauge, -ai he alleged, every immigrantwhii arrived in 1876-6 cost the aonAtry .$2 65, when'iYx fuot it wasbut $8, 86; im that year, and $4 08 in 18711- ,

MR. MAopsaiaorr-My statement was strictly . correct, and I eh-all ,prove R . : .

Mtt. Baowy--The hon . gentleman may, strive to e4oapé 'by a -playupon wotrds--liy pleading that he only iuennt the itwnigrants arrivingat Q'uebeo-but this pjea cannot be entertair►ed. ' He well knew that8$,033 ilnmigrants arrived, at all points in the Dt ►ntiiiion in 1875-6 , andwhat excuse can he pretend for placing the whole cost of this largenumber on the 7,06:3- of 'them who arrived' via Quebeo,'and repredent-ing the average cost per capita thus ubtained as the average of thewhble number ? : . I haarcl distinot~y that the h~tn: gentleman said-~-weall .heard it-4nd I défy hiin to find one 1►ersun Who heard him, or oneperson who has reacl his ~Mxt►phlet, who clid not understand his ah ►irp;eto-be that every immigrant coming into the country in 1875-6 had taken,$26.65,frnm the public chest. Now, than, , I ask the Senaté, if it isreasonable, if it is juaU, if it is for the public ben6fït, that the ►neu ►bersof the Government for the, time being in this Iiouse, and indeed the,whole of i►s-fur we are all .interestcid . in ro ~Alling unjust'aoouâationeaguinet the t~.uverntnentof our c~ ►untru~d be expbotéd to rise at the' •.'moment and refuto on the spot such a preeious conglomeration as this

; at the risk of piling blUnder upon blunder and ponfusingthe public

mind 1, We have been, dixioua9il3g this n ►atter'f ►►r a t ►uinber of d»ÿa-,'an► t with x► i I ►ti ► nulluesa n tiul(l' to ritngL. over, wu n~uy go on diacuaeingfor a wnnth withuut'~;uttin ;; nuar•ur ,e *0)111 tion ~ than wu are tu• ► 1 ►►y. ICain uncluratui ► il huw the ► liacuKaiun of two, or uvun three, '1 ►ointx of1 ►ulrl I !! lwJ,cy ►nay he ec n ► luctc ► i together l,rulit►~l,ly in this Cbau ► ber--

►ut I cuunot, I cuuft•sN ; cuiul ► rohcn ► 1 how a}wn ► irud points of dutailthat •have nover bufuru been diecuased horU, uithur openly or in Ccuû .4uittou, can I ►o i ►HUfully cc ;nsidqrwl together in ►►I ►uu debate acroés thefloor. The British parliamuntary éyatuiu wisely 1 ►ruvidusthat the con-trol ►►f the dut,tilu of money Bills---that the puiüur which niakus andu ►►nakua Dÿ'inisti:us -shall rest with the popular {,ranch of the Lel,is-1 ►►turu. • It dous not ►Nln ► it of two Chambers equi,dly powerful and l,us-sibly discordant with each other . Two separate boces cannot speakthe well understuod wislies of - the, people, ► u ► less they happen to be inIhKr ►uan . .Th~ power of the pu Ke-string e i s, thoce fore, mos.t w i se yIluaged' ~ith the representatives of the people . . We are not elected byp►~p~la1 vote ; we are apl ►► ,itite~l by the Crown on the nomination of theI,)o►ninir►n Government of the day. ; we are appointed for life ; we can.not be rernoved . d'xcept for' cuuse ; our numbers cannot be increasedexcept with our consent ;-rraotically we are direutly reeponsible . & ,rour mots as iegislatiri to our own consciences only. I ask the Senatethe n, if this Chamber in a fitting thelstr@ for such wholeisle railing

' .' discussions as the preeea,t 9 The LOwer ~o.u,se his all the appliatxoorfar rigid f4xatrnin»tion into the details ()f 'znoney expenditures-butwe have not. Every shilling of Oublie expend itare inust be autho rir,edbefoir e► the nn►ney is paid •~-agi d for criticizing the Nstitnatell closely andwisely the Commons have ample fiticiliti®s that we do not potlaess. TheMinister of Finance site, in the Lc,wer House ; he is,praotice►ilj«vonvear-sant with eve 'lly transaotion of the .year ; he opens the Hud~o t ; hefratn4 and proposes all changes of tariff or, taxation ; he .dücloeerthe gnartoial policy of the Gtavernmorit ; and. he stands preparedto defend at any moment every feature of that Po1icy. Then ootnethe Cumtuittees of Ways and Meahs, and of Snl►ply, in r►lti.oh the•estimates of, the year an d all " proposals of t•even t~e changes are-vver-over.,hauled critically- and severely for, many d" in su,cwessiott, and quek- 'tions are put and ans ,wVred - on the - moment o n every duubtiyl pointwith a degree of fs*edom and plain speech that oouid hardlÿ bi wur• .passed . And then, w,;xin j at the opening of the following session'the Public Accounts Cc ►uàtl<tittre in hard at work oomparing,the suanwgranted with the surie spont, narr4wly criticizing every item,, ipsid,gathering full information on dvbry point for the ooniinp; . deb+ate onthe Supply Bill.' I ask the Senate if it is oonvenient that weshuula not u

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here , rival I+`ininrtcc' Ministers and, Finance Com•'mittées to w l the action of the papular brut►ch ',on such fihat- ,tera 1 I ask 'i it is not wandèring beyond our. ?province ?-if, it

' will add either to the ' ,usefulness or the dignity of this House it If

iIam rightlv inforned; this reokl®as raid into the teriitoty of our

~eighl oura is the frret'thingkif tlie kind thât has hiappeped for mduiyyears ; and I respectfully subm it for the eonxideratiç p of the Senatewhether it ought not•to he the last .; With these re~arkB .I retqrri tothe bill pf or ► tnl ►Eaint .of the - hun, gentleman op}iii„ite. The hon .gentleman is full of co inplaih ls' and lamentations . .-He dont like thepreseut Miuiatry ;}ie has no faith in Cumm~itteee of the Clontmuns ;

, he has no faith in the Publie AccoOte ;` he has no faith in apybodyor atiything. The whc► le" wôrld ip, a~ee with hi ►u. Why, ho 'aetually,started hir+ speech thp ~► ther evening with• ►t wail of lamentation thathis speeches and pnmphlet.s had not been answered by anyone- hadnot .been touched. Now, thc ► ugl ► I was not fnrtunrcte enough to bepresent last session whiun the lion . gentleman began his attack, I readthe speeches of n ►y lion, friend the Secretary of titate (Mr . Scott) andthose of other able members of this Hc,use in reply to the han . gentlo-

humble way, I was prepar►-d to any a word when the bon . gentleman

man, ►ynd I cc~nfeNS it, appU+u-eil to me that nothing could t ►e 'moreeffective or ci ► nvincin ; ; tl ► ttn those replies., As to his patupl►lets, I dothink that if the 1 ►rilliant' and witherink speeches of Mr. Cartwrightand Mr Mackenzie in the West (lia not satisfy him, the . lion. gentle-man must indeed be bard to p'lease ; but had any vestige of hin ► beenleft after pasging through their hands it must certainly have disap- .Eearetà under the scathing comments of the ftross . In my own

made his first motion, ►n the early part of this session ;' but when it came on, the bon. gentleman so moi8ed, his tane, he was so inilcl of

speech, so 4areful in iual~ii►g charges, su laudatory of the Premier andthe - ,Fit►ance Minister and everybody else- the whole poison of thething had ;so atmpletely c►oued .out of it-that thsre was very little leftto reply to, But spite of all this, here in the bon, gentleman againwith all his fallacies and his r►ft-rd ~rénted charge4 fresh, as'ever ; True,there in a changé. Last session the bon. gentleman .came to us ift thegerb of .the, righteous man g~ ieved to the heart it the wickednesb ofthe world, around him ; noa► he comes to us as th# avoWed partisn,ai ,satistteu witn>nothing,'distorting eve thing; and calling down fire to

year 1 soandaloue ! disgraceful l He , ,care4 not who does it, or 6ow - it

consume the men w ho guvern' the 14n4, And I am free to oonfeAir thatthe lion, gerttleman has spec'ial cause for thiei extreme inaignation in1878 that he' did not pnseoe ►s i~r~ 1877. . Not ônly-h&ye the retrenàh-mente of 1875-6 been steadily c ►tn :.tinued in 18M,7 and large .re► iuatian4a~ earenditare eS~t~d, bi~t th~ : revenue begine Or take an, upwardtui~; and the national balanoè-sheNt ie ~nua~i lese itnsatisfaotory tha nunder all the oiroun~stanceq wss fairly to h~ve : beim antiôlpated. It is -eo 'hat"d to h~ ►ve sll t+ne.'.s' p~rol►heoïes and ptognosticatiops ruthlessl~►kn±~ake~ on the hnad. Wha ,can wander that tRe han: gentleman isema, querulaue, anc~ wild ir~ hïs stateinents Z . He #t ►kes in one handa list of the expenditures of 1875-8, and in the other a list of thube of1876-7' ; . and he reads i1oud the several items in each and comparesihem togeth~r. Does' h® cotne tô an item in which 'the disburseinents 'of the lsltter year exceed by à few dollars those of the former year,he e~cclaims, Uh; such wiokédness ! Ruin and desolation. 1 Has he to'coniess a paving af any $50,O(>D on the next itetp, at once he beoi ►ndes~hilosopbioal, 11 Ah ! reductions are not , always sound economy."' Fenny wiAe and pound foolish." , He " dcRn't value such a reduction .

at~~nuch"--but '.'if he did, who in entitled to the credit ôf it'9 Why,w ho but the bon : Senutor himself-'" I, said the sparrori, with mÿlittle arrow, . I killed Cook Rûbin - ! " Is a saving of, half a million dis-closed on a single item, he in horrifïed:' What, half a millioii in -one

is.dctne, such a reduction is utter)y unjustifiable I In short, nothingwill please he Hop. Senator, and I sha11 not try to` please him ; but}f the 8epata will give me its attpntion• for a brief space, I-"lc

it will not he very .clifYlcult to show the utter gruundlensneEa of th ehon. gontloinan'H got-up ca$o ' agA inst the proAent Goverimient . Onegreat fallacy-shall I call it a fallao or i wicked n~isreprosontation Z--un~lorliea all the financial calc~~lati one and iiccusa ticIfis (A-,the hot~ .gentleman . Ilia entire fabric roats on the pretence that Si John A .111acdunald's Guvern m ent was rei4 potteiblo for the oxpend ituro of thecountry only up to 30th Juno, 187,3 , and that the pre$ent ( ,uvornmon tare rvhpunAibl e from that ( late. But what are tho facts ? Why thatSir John Macdonald's 06verrnent was in office until Novetnber, 1F173,-that in April, 1873, his ,C,uverninent pru~auseil and carried the SupplyBill for the c~ntire financial year commencing lHt July, 1873, and on ( i-ing on :311th June, 1 44----that the Mackenzie Government took officelate in that year, an d had no choice but to carry out the program meframed by their predecessors ' and adopteil by Yarliament ; and that .before the olecticros were over and Farlianient eoulcC , be called ugain, -the financial year was near its close . The pretence that, the presentGovernment is responsible for the expenditure of 1873-4 is so pre t,os-terous and mentlaaious that it iii amazing any bane person could befound to set it u0 for a moment. Why, thon, ts the hon . gentleman s odaring as to do this, and to cling to it, apd re-eseertit, in .deHftnoe o foomûron sense 9 Why, simply beoqiuse the Legislative and Executiveaction in 1873-4 caused a complete revolution in the financial affairs ofthe Dominion . The Macdonald Government in that yeat~ capped theclimax of its r~oklese .adniinistrâtiun, and the country has ever,sïao®been weighed down by the pressure of the enormou~ i-esponeibilitiee itleft as a legasy to its sueaessorr. The Macdonald l~overnment ' .a►'asformed in 18tf7 and controlled the public finances until 30th June;1 814 ; lot us see theri hoir the annual public ,exl endituras increased in'their hands. They were:-- • ••~ . . - . . ~ .

ln ' -1 867 - 8 . . . : . . . . . . . . . ., . . . . . . . . .,1613,48f1,092In 1868•9 . . . .:. . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . 14,038,Û84 -in 186a-7Q . . . . .' . :' . :. . . . :.. . . . . . . . . . . 14,30,506Ili 187 0•7>* , . . . 16,623,081.11i 1871•2 ., : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17~lJ86,4t38In ; L872•;; . . . . . . . . . .

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Ia~ 1878 .4~ . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . 23,316,318, •

It will thus be sien, that iyi the four yeara from 1867-8 to 18704 theapnual ex.penditûre rose trvo u4illione of dollâre ; that in the ' suo-ceeding two years it roser three millions and a half more ; but that inthe next sucooecling yoar-thut of 1873-4, which the hon . Senator (Mr.AS$opherson) so indecently seeks to fasten on the present (ilovernmetit .-the annual'expenditure ment up at one jump the enôrjuoue,gdditi-onai sum of '1113,768, :3U0, And to show clearly how this vast incceasearoee, and how'éntirely the late Government- were responsible for it, Ihave taken from the Public Accounts, comparative lists"of each itemof expenditure in,the years 187~-3 and 1873-4 respectively, and will ~noyv read them ;--r - . , -

.1 872•3 1a73 4 i. • nor. Decr.In.tPrest . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5,209,205 5,724,436 515,231 : . , . . . .CbarKos of management of (lcbt . . . . ' 171,fl81 238 003 Gï► 0?2 ; . . ;• . . . .5inkin ~ Furul . . . . .. ' '~ ,., . . . . . , 407,821; 51 ;3,9z0 1 od,o9-11)iecount oxchanged . . . . : . . . . . . . 5,763' 26,680 21 617tinbaidiee tô• 1 ' 8 3 1,3;)8oyincea . . 2,921,399 3, T<~, 7 ;i 7 ' . . . .~ , . . . . . .. ~ï.,Civil l,ovornment . . . . . . . . . . . . 750,874 8 83,6 8,5 132,811 " . .Administration of Justico . . . 398,966 459,037 60,07 1Police . . . . . . . . 49,813 56

. . . . . ... . . . . . . .,,3K7 (i,8i4l'onitentiarics . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

.~• • ' 270,661 i3n, ► 5il lL890

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Ld8i inlatii ►n E314 487 784~ ' 1 f;4:51 ;clogc8urve . . . . . . . . . . . ,04(3 l(7 Y •' 64,631 97,824 38,183ArtM, A1;riculture and. 8tatistics . . 1(►,(i4t0 19,091 8401Caneue. . . . ' ' 57,7(;t3. 39 4711 '

inspection of stap le/ . . . . ". . . . . . ., : .,:.• •• •• •

Emigration and quarantine . . . . . . . . . . . . 287,3t ;t3 . 31A,f7l ." .' • 18,09E3` •31Marine liospitnla . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 48,1;,O 66,462 .1f? ;,3

12204 . . . . . . . . .. . . .,, .,,Pension e . . . . : . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49,204 56,458 , 7,2498upraptiuatiQn . . . . . .

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53,026 64,442 11,416 . . . . . d

~Vo ►1,248,(i(33 977,376 . 271,287Public kd : . . . . .

. . . . .. . . 1,597,0*14° 1,826,001 228,387Ocean and River Slteam Service . 4,5G,190 467,701 48,489. . .

Lighthouses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . : .. .

. . 480,376 537,U57 00,652 Fisheries. . . : : . j, . . . . ; . . . . . . . .• . . . 97,878 76,247 . . . . . . . . 21, 6 3 18teamer lnnpeotion . . . . : . : . . . . . . . . . . . 13,266, 10,292 ... . . . . . . . 2,974Im urance Inspection . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . .: . . ' . . . ., . . . . .M eoalloneou ' ' 'g, . . . . 63, 849 102,160 38,311 . . . . . . . . .Indian G1a~ante . . . . w . . 63,777 146,668' 02;291 . . . . .. . . . .poxninio~,,, Landr . .. : . . . . ~. . . . . . . . . . . . . 2374676 288,163 . 48,4~87

Dominion Forces, Man 'ttoba . . . . . . . . . 147, 888 ~' 209,169 81, 801 . . .Mounted . .Foliqe, N. Ww . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 199,159 199,159 . ' . • .N.,W Urgahttioaa . . . : . I2 , ,üoundary sqrveYi . . . . . . . . . . . ., ; . ., 89,293 79,293 , : . . ~ . .Boundary Survey, O n t a r i o . . . . .

Military Btoreai:. 2,4g0 " 2,~~0 •, . .

i~ustormM refunds ~l«. . .meryèars . . . . °• 144,906 144110m' . . . r ;

gett~ars . . . 69 330 89 33q~ I~,eliofj .dlalïltob~t . . . . . . . . . . t~ r ► . . . , . , .

.. . . . . . . . . . . . . • . . .~~t ,.dfis. : . ~ . . :

.• , . .. , . . . . . . . 667,766 658 ,290 90,588 .Exâiee `y! . .

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t . . . 173,705 206,93 0 $ 23(1. . . . . . . .

WeighJ~ ,y~ .. ~► .. ,. .~Y •1.4M'~.p. 1

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Adulteration of food , ' ' ' . . "• ' :'• • .Cttlli» Timber . : . . ., . . . . . . , ; . . , •

.O~oe . . . . ' 69,692 . _ .82,886 1$,894 , :. ' •Post . . ., . . 1,067,866 •'1,887,270 , 3̀ 19,40 4 ,~ . . .-Public Works . .'Q . , . ; . . 1,49li,18d 2,889,879 893,494 •Minor, Revenuet . . . '. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . 22,263 11,371 ]0892. . ~_ --- _..,._. ..

.al9,174,6¢7 23,316,316' 4,141,669, 373,369Z call the-attention of the Qenate to th,ree facts that` are established .by this comparison :=First, that out of the 39 '+--- th"t coruititnt~the entire expenditure of the year, 1873 .4, 33 of thelp were largely in-

oreased by the ltwte Gloverntinent beyond the sumq paid, for the ,mmeservice the previoué yenr ; seaond, that the increases on 4rhesn thirtTy-ihree items came t o $4,141;219, and'thédeareaees on the reniaining six •~ièmt of rzpenditure to •W73,369, showitlg the not inwwase of elpert-"diture-in that one year to have been ILI 78300 and thirdth h, ,; , at t egreat mass of the uFCreâses were of such a character, that they couldpot hsve been reduoed bq thé inçotqtug Aduaiuietration . And as illus. -

trative of the titylo c4 some of theeo 1at'qe incteas©s lot m 11 t hattention of the Houao the enormous creations of Inew offices an (I ad-ditions ione to exiating salaries that were made by Sir -John A . 1lacdonald's'sôvorn ►ncnt in that year-just before théy were ejected from office,

and while alretuiy in the throcx of digaulution . I hul~l in tuy hand the

offices ulone, with salaries attaçhed to theni of $ :322,993 per anntun ;

1 otticiltil r4turtl, cu ►ci 1 fincl thq.t under theeé Hcan~lalous cirou ►uata► iccs nofe'wer than 4i29 new al ► ltointtnienta Were niade in the llc~l~mrtnïenta l

avui that additiouH, were made in the aan ►e nnanner to tire salaries of1, :3f31 eml ► Ic ► yce» in the Rame Departments, nniounting to $152, .360 porannunt . Tho ar ►ual-, burcien involvcd " in theee . 2, 0 10 trrtnaactionsri ► uoutited to the onurmuus surn of $t7G,2,`39 per annu ►n, cir the annualinterest on more than,ton millions of dollars ! Hcre is the officialretttrn : ~- ~ ~ ~ ~ ,

i2opartinent. Appoint. lncreasea. Total .IIlen t8 .

Ciovern r•Gtenoral's Office No. Antt. No. Amt. No. A ►nt.

larivv ouncil . .-_---- : : ~ Nil . .1) 350 3 350

°c3eori;tary nf State . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .

. © 41390 ~9 v 4

v 1"650 , 18 . . 6,340Publie Works . 1.'.. . . . . . . . . . .. 28 21,046 171 1I1,074 19f1 40,620. . . . . . . . . . . . .,r . . . . . . .. . . . 7tS 77,800 1,1 1 .760 86 7i1,660Intéswjor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . M '14,070 26 ► b,010 .44 '19' M -to

l~uetoms . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . .111 b.

Militi~t, 8 , 076, 636 67,186 .7i7 126,982. . "., . . . . . 6 '~,6t►o~. 18 ' 2,r377 24 8,2771 tând ' R e v e n u e . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . .. . . . . . . . "8s 80,61~: • 96 16,$b0 180 47,085F~nattGe . , . . . .• . . . . . . . . .

17 15,400 14 2, 00 .41 18,060ReCeiVer:déneral ' •~ " f• }f -, en., . .

ABrloulfiure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . 41 8b,b26 1!S l0'178' 1ï6 87, a~Î$Marine and l~isheris~ . . . . . . . . . ► °,a. . ]694 21,900. 49 9,926 208, 80,925Post U81oe, : . . : . . . . . . :, . . . . . . . . .? . . . . . . 77 - 86.020 811 A,220, .' 888 ' b8,240, ,.Tatals . . . . . . : :, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., . ~; : 629 322,948 1881 162,8b0 2010 475,298. . ,.,

lEwer ~ qne of ~haue. new spp.oiritments t►ndino~r+paeeelo sahary were

the work of the 11f~oclonslci Administration--but as or x totli~

figures show how thé 11 1-1, inore$sed in their~ ~anc~s~ :

' the 009M of these aots on their suuQeisot~il th hW

gentl~nw

~naucicwiouely'reprervntetber~ as reApa ►neible for a1l

e on.8nanoial tren~satiohu : .afte~r the .l8t cif ~uly, 1873, inste,pd of .the trué date, let Jitly! 1874.And as wrth the annualpublio expençltturejy so also as to the public debt-has the hon . gentleman'resortsd to the sâme disingenuousoontrivance..When the Macdonald ' Ministry asstrmed office in' 1867, the ~ publialialiilities - of the Dominion, amounted to $93,046,081, less assete$17,$17,410--nr a net Pubiic' .Debt of '$75 728 641 . . The following

C3rôeo Debt. a Aesets. , Nett Debt,July,'1887A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .=98,04$,061 $17,817,410' $75,728,641July, 1868 . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 96,896,666 21,189,ô31 i6,7ô7,186July, 1869 . . . : . . . . . : . . . . : . . . .. .112,861,998 ^ 3E#,602,679 75,859 -319July, 1870 . : . . ., . . : . . . . . : : : . .116,U98,706 88,78$,964 . 70,209;74$July, 1871 . .' . : . . . : . : . . . . . . .118,492,682' 87,786,166 77,706,517Julq, 187;t . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ; . : .122,400,179 ~- 40,018,107 82,187,072 ;July, 1878 . . ; . . . : . .,, ., . . . .180,778,098 80,929,888 99,848,462Jnly, 1Y74, . . ; . . . . . . . . . . . . : .141,188,661 ` . . 82►888,6fi6 . ' 10i,82/,98ô .

i It.will ho seen frotn thene figures that i'the f t, , ~, q, ~ rs $ve yeArs of theMacdonâla, jl•tinistry s .oxistenoe, the nett Deht inorqtAeri $l,(x)0,000 ;but that ip th©r sixbh year it rose $4,500,009 beyond what it had overLôori huforo ;,thut in the sovetnth year it rose pp lesa thap $17,700,000lioyond thu high point of the . previous year ; and'that in 1873-4--forwhi& the hcm, gentleman pretends to hold the presont •Minietrÿ re••àponsjblb--it `rçise $8,fiq0,0(x) etill higher * thati the âwollen tigure9 af

ment, the now Ministry fonnd awaiting. thrin whe r

I872-3. -" Iiehuld," exolairirH the hon. gemtleinan,•`" what the publicdciht and the annual exl,onditure were in July, 1$73, when the Mac-dcinald (i'4rvertunont rusignuli- and"nowt. see what the pNsent men havobr4iught-tl, jeun to, in July, 1476! "-thereby jvlaoirig tui th©-ahoul~lore ofthe* proàent Ministry ~F3,GI11 ► ,INN) of increawbd debt ;arici $:3,7138 ,300 ofannual expen4 liture for wkriuh they were in no m~rnner rus~►oneilrle.But t3ro }roh . g~rr~tl©rpun had a still strongor reasun than even theae 1'have rtauw(l fur rnunipufatiniz the rue<ird . llero i,4 a_. .. . .. .. .. . ,

Çanals • . . ; : .! . . . . ., : . .

in addition to• tlaese enorrnons u'n d ortakings, thunow ; ~linistry

On 1Nt'July, 1ti74, it was ~° ; . . ., 108 ,324,989

lnterc(yl0nürl tlioilwuy . :. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . Ip

tR,R00,VUV

l'auillu I{ailwn. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . IO,UW,QUO

N. S. and N. 13. Itailways ~ . ~ . . ' . . . 30,000,000 '

. : . . .l . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . • . . . . . . .

. 2,liQOp,VUMinir wurks . :. . .•,

. 4,500,000lmprovûraunts, h"atvron,su .'Y , . . z !51)O,000Advuucus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . '• , i ',, ,. . . .

1,000,000. . . . . . . . . . . . .• . . . . . . ., . .l

~ ' • . . . ' M ~ ,, . .

N $96. 000,0 00

fbutii f i $35,(N)0,(ï(Nj of Public 1lulaerrturus maturing irnuuudiateÏy, furwhich no prirvision whatever had baon rnad ~ I,y the" pro~iucuesurs ,, , And yet, with' the 1 ►erfeot knowl~dKo thut ~ thueo vaHt expuriditurouwere f~ ► rce~l' on, the~ utjvr (i~wornnront by ,is irwn frionda ; that theyouuldx not escape fr~im exeuuting a lurKo portion of the works bè}(uri ;, .itnd• that t,ho pulrlio cl oht and 'annual expr ►nilituro must âonAecluontl ybe qruttly iircroase~i thorphy ; the hùn . gontlom? u ► v~nkuroy to el ►oakof that inottiuiso as a huinqus crime r►n tho part of tho l~reHUrt ( luvorn-rrtont nu , l don- rncue , thérh f~ ►r it . 1`t;ny tt ►an, that the whole of thehon.• gont.lomun's oaloulationa aml accusations rust on 'grounrlle~s : )ro-tonlir,rs ; and that hiA'entire structure falls to piuons when placo( ona juat basie. ~

Hi►vinK ü)nn untal ►lished tho trire position of afiuire at thq tirn othe rrnsey ►t M inistry took ottice, 1 now proqeert . .to. show the resultsnf t~ruir a,Lninietratiun in the three years of their feigrn for whichwe have returns. And first as to the Public llebt,-' On 1st July last

the nett delrtwas : . : . ~ . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., . . . . . . . . . . . . ., $133,204 ,899

Total inerouse . . . . . . . . . ► \ lo. ., . . .0 $ 24,883,73 â. . • . * . . • .Naw, ~he question at once arises, now this groat inoreasé"ooôurred fWell~ ,' Ihold~in my hand AD official ratur», that solves that quwrt;on

very diatinctly . - It-shows that in those vory thre© oara-,tilo're was ox-l,oll ►lod un publie wqrke for which vute .+ h ►ui been tciken. bu the llfedon-

~«ld ((ovnrollinentin the eati-mc,(tea of 1K73 - the alltp of $$4, 361 ,920, orwithin half n Million of, dollars of the ontip anlount . Hero are, theitenlA . .

. 0IN l'O CAPITAL .

St. Lawrence ('i nale . : . . . : . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .>1;2,133,7Q1Welland Canal . . . . . . . . . . . . :: : : . . . . : . . . . . : : . I : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . 4,816,560Ottawa WorkA . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,207, 646liuio Verto Canal . . . . ' ,

. . . .' . . . .

.5 7 8

, tt n . . .. . .1 .

.l'uLlio liuil► liRl;x Ot ►~v . .. . . . . . . . .'. . . . -. . .. 7 16, 15 6Nova ~+cutin and N. R. Itailways . . . : . . . . . . . . . ' 1,204,263Iuterc ►►1„nial liailway . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . 5,248,509PAcific 1(uilwav. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~ .' . . ., . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . : : . . . Qa839ri8l'rince H.dwai`d 1 . lia ilway . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .. . . . 288, 6 3 2

IMI'Itl1{'kMNhT t)V RIVEUR.,

"t.' .Tohn, N . It : . . : . .. , . 13 8QQRed River, Mnnit ►► l,a,

; . . . ..' . . . . .

. . . . ... . . . . . . . . . .. . .

. -. ,200St. Lawrence, chail ► x uR ► i anchora . . . 49,008Fraser River, B. C . . . ,

. . . ~. . . . . . . . . . . . . 7,360

Itiaholieu Iiivar . . . . . . . . , . 29234C- I . .)~----.• •

. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . ,

, . . . . . : . 292,07(t.~ . %

PunLt~` t1it11.},iNUt# . ;. , .

London Immigration Rtation . . . . . . . : . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,989Hamilton l'uet-Offiaa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Toronto l`uatownr Houee . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . : . . . . .Ï . .

.: : .

.• 138, 90

do ' SuvillKe Ban-k . . ..

. V11do Inla,rll 1{ovc,nuo office . . .. •, 17,880do Exnmining Warehouba . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 223V3$do' ~N'oat oflioe, - n f13,~

Quebec d ►~ . . . . . . ..

: . . . ..3 . . . .

. ., . . 5,339. . . . . . . . . . .Ottawa l'oet oHioa. ~. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . ., ~. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~ 160,218(iruneo lél*e, Quar►►ntirie Statiuh .

.. .

. .. : . . . . : . . . . . : . . : .' . . . : . , . . . : . . . . . : ., . . ' lR,U19 ~

'l'hroe Itivor t:uptont Houee . . . . . . . . . . . . .. ,

.. .

. 7,981Montreal l'aet•oilico .' . . . . . . . . . . 212,40Ht. John, N, B ., l'~pt•oilico: ,.. 109,8841~'iatau Custom N~élMe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : : . n . . . . . . . . : . . . . 24,780Manitoba . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . : . : . . ! 72,654

(io Penitt~ntiary . . .~ : . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . .I; .1

. : . . . . . ., . . . . 136,140• British Columbia publia Huil (linge . . ., . . . . . . . ., . . . : 166,063

h

NARHaIiRN AND PTRRH ,

CalHngwoi,d . . . . . . . . . . ., . . .. . . .

. 267 .Me~►f► ,rd : :

8,09$602 '

Inyerhaton,. . .

. . . . . .K~naardine .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . â,y I . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18,867

(lalieriah~,~, . . . .. ,. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2,

0,000.

Port Stat► ley .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . . . .

' Cobour ~ : .. . . . . . I . . . . . . . , #, 168

pr. ~. . III . I . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~, 47,916

erqu l le . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . ... . . . .. . , . . . . . 10, 2"

IfA1;t;ot1 ) 1.9 AND 1-11 r+It8-Co>lli ►tutli.

Kingston . $10,647'or~~nto, ' . . . ., , . . . . '+ . . .. , 20,919

I `Owt~tr 8oun~l . . . . . . .. . .

. fl,290

for Pitblio Works left to thorn as i1 luKaoy by thoir Ilreiloaeesure . ; and i t

ll~tyr~la .` . . . : .. . . .

: .,','" . . . . . . . . . : . . . . .lhantry 1s1 j}nd . . . . . . .

• , 41,816

li~ndaau . : ,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1g8,i1R 1

8hNnnonvillo . . .. . . z ; . . ., . . . : . . . . 80,965

Sn uenay l,~liulé ~lt . l'nul . . , . . 6,065itat}~uret' N .It, 1 5, 0R 5

lti4hibuuto: • 313762 411

~tp wr ~. . . s~. 12 24

9 P~ohn ~

. 141 560otitacxliuô . . . .. ,

,Nillelxaro' . . .: • ,. . . 1,194 "

MaoraiH's Uove . . . :. . . . . . . . . .. 1,b00

Trtacadiq . . . . . . . : . . :. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b~~04

7,564MaLivc

M~ar(Hwl . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~ 26,831. . . :. . . .

,

Yarmouth . . . . . . .. . ...

. . . . . . . . . . . . . ,. . . . . . . ., . . . . . . 12, Ifi(iOak Point . . . . . . . . . . . . ,

. . . . . . : . . .. ,. 1,000Iniah. , . , t . . . . . . . . . 20,042~ gon . . . . ., . . . . • . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- . . . ~ : . . . : . . : . . . . . ~R,868 ,1

, . . . . . . . . . .: . .Cow Ba

orts Cloorge and William . : . . . . : : . . . . . .. . . . . .

. . . . . . .1 . . . . . . .r,,, : . : . . . . . . ~ 1,000

altnoRivf~r and I'lyrnrton ilarbour . • t . ~R200Big Pond . . . . . . ..,, . . . . . . . . . : . . .,

600-Maitland . . ., . . ; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Totsl : . '. , . . . . . . . .. . . . .. . . . . $.. ,. . . . . . . . . . . . . . $24,361,92 1

~'ao thon, if the Public Debt wi►e largtsly ' inc~r•eaeed in tliethreecars .1 SUO

is not ettrel jV from the lilie of tht► frlamla and unluglsta of those ~rt~ileeàs-sprs that reproach for it bhoirltl oo(na: l~si much for the Public Debt tafna nuw. .lot us aoo htfw it has boon with thoi Annual Lxlwrulituireeeiuring the satsie throô yeara, ' Ihuld in talÿ hand n o.,ulpr►rativo state-rnont of the aovoral'itoluh of expondituro in time yuar 1R7.3-4, (t1w lae tyear of th6 lato Ministry) al :ii in the year 1870 -7~ . (tho lryrt year of thepreaent Ministry of whiolr We have Ii,otnrnA) and vury far frotn findingJust cauqo of denunciation of tho, muon now in ►~wur hi the facts it (lis ..clowes, 1 find only groûnd of roJoioing~"tilat U~ioy have huld the rains,with tight it hand, and were able to, restrict .tho expenditures withinsu runable a ooinpasr. In'spite of a oonntantly i~raasing popula.,tion the peniuf w rit ', ng p onoterories,the extension - of olvilir.ecig+~ vernn~ent into many rem+tit® districts, the admission' uf , ~rrinae1~1~r►Urd s Island into the Confederr►tion, immense publio worka~oon from the Atlantic to thq paoi6o, all entailing large additionalanntial burdene, . and many heavy incidental expenses beRides that .were not borne . by their predeoebsars, this Retur* shows that largerèduotionw were, ) ffeoted on' the ôrdina ry annual expepditures as oon-4ywted with thowe of their oppanenta in the ye~r they were drive~a iro mo~oe. He • thre u e etatexnent ;--- - .

18"73,4 . 187G-7 I o' ' Deïa,Interost , . '. , $6;724,4313 - 6,797,227 1,072,79 1. . . . . . . . . . . . •Charges on debt . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 238,00.4 , 172 4 .14 . . ; . . . . 54,469Sinlung fund : . . : . . . . . . . . .: . ., .' 673,926 828,373 314,463 . . . . . . . . . .Discount . : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : . . . . : . . '2t1,G80 24,331 . ., . . . . . . . . . 2,349Subsidies . . . . : 3,7G2,767 3,666,8.~0 96,907-,Civil Cioveinm.ont .,' . . .'_ , . . . . : . 883,68.6 812,193 .

. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 71,492

Adin . of Justice . .E'ono

.• 469,437. Gtifi,rb7 1 06 ,66066,387 11,3(36 45,022'

PenitPntiaries .., 3A8,fi61 303,~08 92,383I,eKislation '., . . . . 784,048 6('16,006 '188

,042

l;eologival : . , . .Arts, Ag. and :3tRt, . . .Census .' . . . . .~ 'Emig . an(1 Qu it {' . . , . .', .Marine Hospitals ,,„ ; • ;l'onNiaus . . . ' . . . . N . • 50,078. '.ti .~uporannuatipns , . . . .` . , , . ., . . 64 442 - 104,826 40,384 : '" . .

. . . . . . . . . ., . . .Militia : . , . . . . . . . 977 :376 : Gr► 0,4tï1 -. •., .',, .. . . . 426926 ., .1 ubliu Works . . . . . . . I ,826 001 1,262,823 . . . . .., ., 563,17 8coan and River k3team Service 407,701 - 4t32336 64,634~iKht6ousos . . . . . ., : : : . . : . .,` ., . . . . . : . -537,07 471,278 65 ,779ishories .~ . . . . . . . : . . : . . . . . . . . . . . . ., '76,247 • 96,348 . - .20,101 . . .teamer Inspection • . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 292 1.8 , ,078 2781

.

no . 1nÀpeotiou . . . ., . ., . . . . .. ; . .,. . , . , 7,512 7,512 ' . . :,IiAnellaneoua , . . . . . . . . . . . . : • Ï02,1G0 101S ,b07 A,847 . : . :, :, . .. . : . . . .. . . . . . : . •

ndian aranta . : . . . : . . . . . . . : . . . . . :. . . 146,008 301,596 166,528 . . . ., ~ . . . . . •)omiüiau Lande . :, .°: . . . . : . :. . . . . . ." . 283,163 90,621 ;. , . : . . .':, 192 648pminion Farces•Manitoba ,, ., ., 201j,1E9 29,989 . : :, . 179,200,. . . .bunt®d Palice, N: W.. . . . : . . . :. . . 109,169 ' 362, 779 . 1~li3,b00. W . t7rganisation . . . . . . . 12,262 . , ., ., . . 12,262~undary Bu4vey, U . Q. , . . . . : , . 79,2 93 : , „ , . . ., . . . . . . 79,293Y)o. Ontarip ,, . ,1 - 2 4.';0 2,430ilitary stores .,, . . . .r . ,,, . . 144,lN)R

.144,906-

'us . rehuds 09,330.

. . . . . . . . . .. . . .

69, 330iottl®re Relief, Mauitaha ►uetams w . . . . . , . . . ., , % ., ltr► ni,i9n° âôs ~i «1 ,~~irc

. ,

xoo . . . . . . ., 206, 9"0 211,167 6,778'eiKhts and Mearuros . . . ., ,; 111,0N6 111,08ô

nspeutioiA c►f Staplos . . . , . ;, . (i48 048 '1dultoration of fouti ., 4,l103 4,903 ; . ., . ., . .ulliu`Itimbor ~

.82,88t3 68,171 14,715tl

. . . . . .., ~'oa t~ o gloe' :, . :., ~ , . . 1,387,27U 1,708,311 Sl ,u 041

I l i o W orks, . . . :' . 2,389,079 2,3()1 .832 38,84 7inor Rwonnoe : ; . . ;:r : 11,37~ 20,181 8 , 810 . . . . . .

$2.3,316,316 $23,519,301 . . . . . . . . . ., .: . . ~ . ..It thus app©a'rs that the entire e:i ►onditnic+b of the Dominicrn a~

. ,.n the year .1876-7 : . . . : . . . : . . : . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . : . . . . : .':, : ; . . . . ., . =ô19,i101nd in 187$-4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ., ., : . . . . . . . . 28 ,ala,ale, F Inoreaee in tùre►e years . . ,. , . . , . ' ,,, $2K 976ut this inaréane was merely ~ôminal . ' • , There was in faot a 1aM.A â~ction on the or,ntrallO►ble expenditare ôf 1876-7 in oampuris~ott with~ â! lü7u, Duri»g we interrening threé yem money had to ba _

97,814 . 9'"0,454 . . . . ., , 2,25619,00 1 65,707 46 ;ti76 • . .:19,470 7,546 ,, . . .

.31,924

-318,572.' '.351j951 ~ 3 5,379 . . . . . . . . .66 ,462 . 62,408 ., ' 4 064 .

1 4' ". .

: borrowed to pay for thé vnat oblig~tinns nnciertakôrl by the lato GfnvorTirnont, and interest on the money•an 1►orr►►wod nccrnerl in the year1876-7 to'the amnunt of $1,072,70 1 in excep a of wh,it had to be paidfor interest in 187:3-4. In 1876-7" too, the ainn of $ i28had to bepaid into the sinking furi,ti for. the oxtincti orn of the public del►t,, whilein 1$73-4 the sum 1 ►ayablo into that full([ was but $573;t)20, creating a.oompulsorÿ inoronse of the exponditure of 1876-7 over that of 1t373-4 -of $314,463, ; Thén, again, in .1876-7 the sunr of $ 30 1,596 had to beaid towards the extinction of Indinn : t4tl«a in the Itinrth-v, ,©st, or91ôti,G2A in oxéess of the charge for that aurvico in 1.873-4 . ''hose andother similar charges, which,had to .1 ► o' pi t irl ; whicL conl ► 1 not be outdnwn . ;'which w ere not the not of the 1 ►ri3atmt ,lfiniatry, ;crôatod' Rôharge of over $2,y1)0 ,f ►Of) in 1 87 ( i-7 that d id not oxist in 1 87:3-4 . . Tho :►ireeunt Ministry rotronche~i aq•sovdr~ily in 1876-7 on the charges within~heir control, that notwithstanding thepe grent add itionà to the px ron-dituroa be)~onrl their ' cuntr~~► l, the total é}targes Of thé ÿear woré kop t: within $262,985' of what they stood nt, in 1873-4 . 1 repoat then Yrxyornvictrnn that the people of Canada have'aincuro cause of thankful- .., .ness,that tnen are at thaarohia in those rlitliéult titnâè, who have courag eand strep stth to )rold it with su firm a gras ti, li~rt Mr. Mi ► c:1 ►hürsnnis not sa tiaGe tl with this reduction of nuar•ly two millions of ► iullt►ra . ,kie ~rowlq etill---anrl he atteurpta to make s ►►mo speçir~l ., Iiuinta.,• qf objection which, with the leave of the I~Iuusô, I nu ►v proposeto examine seriatim . . The frrst-,uhjootinn he tnakud I}tave already~' . notioecl inoidet~tally, * nainely, that the Public Accounts of 1876--77 were not correctly made ur---~that he lias strong suspicion thataoôounte were kept haok, in nrder'tu force a more fHVUUrablo balancethan. the .truth . would warrant . Ww, I ropeat that it was utterly un-~rutifla ble on the part of the lion. gentleman to send abroad irlch aninsinuation unloss 'he was prepared to frlrmnlatô hia chargcï so that it •;oanld be met, promptly and rluoisivq l y ; a l ►d 1' call upon the hon :gentleman to rise now and state' olor►rly , what fils charge is, what arethe fiiots, who are the crinilnals, and move fur a Çorurxrittee of Inrluirsyinto thetruth E►f his insinuations, ( houd oriel of " I luar, hear-!' )I)oes the hon. gentleman utitlorstr►nd thrt gravity of hia charge ? Duosho f,etiruat® he etleut on the 'crerlit of tUûcountry of a~l ►ubliu stàtourewtby /a uiemhQ~uf this Chaniber that - time tPublio Accounts have bee nlsi(iori 7 Will it bo . knuwn altrowl, ns. is woll known in every corneru an that, thp mon . who isnrlrpose tlte►, 1►roaent ( ;ovt~rnqy®nt miro' iytt ly inoapt►ble of euch'a ~leod, and tll~► t the thinx,' ou,nie froni .who it may, is a foul ànd Kmundlesd slanrlur ? I' r;. M Aprt~ r8snx -I told the I~nuse• what, I 1 rd hâarrl and hoardr?ept~~►ter to fre~luently that -I had strong reaèun'~o boli evé it. .- I saidit waw nu in the power of a Committee sitting in Ottawa to got at the(aate, so e~mstioally and so poreietontl,y was thn thing dope ,

U~t. Ba wrt-Wel) , then, I repeat that for an hnn, gentleman of thee><perienoe a d position of the lion . member to inake such a stat®nienthere_with%ut einpl prepared tu l rove it, is ontirely unweirran•table .Ms. Mlvp wasox--It I. thO Narth-wert aobuiint,a i rater to . -

Biso --I do not on"' what .Aooounti thé hon , gentlemun vre- .ter» to; ; Let ' tell us whoae -aoaounts they were, and who it was '-tau►t syitema kept tli,em b~, ~fci * what ho ir prepared to pruv*, ~ i . l . . . •

befero' a Cecnmittoo. I anal to hpn, m©mbure on both sidee of th &House if it w i ts right to throw b roadcrtst an imputation of this naturewith ► iut heinf Able to h ►tbatantiata it. . . Formÿself .I du~not believe one .worrl of it. The hon : gentleman objeôts to the expenditure for Muunted]'oliee in the North -wust., When he rlid su it was said across the floorYour 1'riunds did it ." "Ohyes," . replied the- hrni . Senator, ".they

budget of cunrl ► luints . Next cx ► uroH the item of weights and m©"urue,,

admit that as originally fropa ► l ,it was harsh and unn►►pular ; but it hashuein gretatly . irt ij►ruve► 3 for the butter ' by the AnYond-n ►ont Act of the

ber of t~A notion whun th o

►iu►sad the Act, bit . they cli~l not put it in force." He is mistaken ;~ hold in' iuy . hand it copy of the Order in G►uncil gign'od by Sir John'A. Mao► lonal ► l, and it 'auts out overy detail of tl ;o lE'orçô, the numberof tnon, salariCe, and su forth,,1 ► reoisuly as now in ol>orntion, ;bltt :, Mn C rtiauHUN- ' Wru► the. liruèlurnatiun isaueri by the late6nvorrunoirt ?

• Mrt. B ftoWN----Tho Order in Cuuncil witA 1 ►r►nsal by thont . • f'Mtt .Skx.►Tm---Tho M ounteil Police Furçei :was bruiigli.t into existenceby an Act 1 ►assod in 1R73 .Dix. :M ArPtiEA HÇ► N-My ata,tomont wris with regard . to thè woighteand nieasuras .' I said the Mcmntu►1 police had bout, organized lthelittu, (36vernrnent . . . ; . 'AIR . t3etuWN -- :11► , then thiM ►► 1 ►juctiun i n wholly withdrawn from the'

$1 l1,U13S, and at this the hi" ► n: gentlo,nan hulds up his bands ir~ it~dig-~ua Ei~ ►n. He was rürnin ► ierl .that his own frienrls wore the atithore ofthat rnoan'ure -- iuul lré n ► in ► ittu ►1 thttit theyj ►►tased the Act ;btit claimedthat they did not . put' it into t ► 1 ►ori►tio~t . ' But this is a niistaka.--:•fo rt.hoy not only were the airthord ~ ►f' the inrasure, but the ' l)epartmentluui beguri their preparations for putting it in force before they loft .office. The hon. _gentleman says it wae a bad Act--and I am free to

llrerent Administration, an►1 l an ► told that the objeotiuns toit are nogruutly ï tnoïli8o ► 1.' . 'l'ho rtdvantrtge of seouring a uniforn, wystot~ofweights and unnrtisureg over the Dominion, and of ilintinishing if not -1 ►ruvuntin}3 frlari► 1 P►y fi ► lso l ► nlt►ncev1 can har4ily ; I think i. be over-ratéci-~and if this rait bo . suouru ► 1 by the ex i ►tülit itru of a moderato sum itwill ' .l ►e. an inostit u tl► lu ndvaritu o• I 'I W lion .K , gentleman a ►mhle► inshowr ► vor, that so lnrKc, {v ' i,i t ur as $11 l,i ► A t'i should have béon slwnt; ai (I} ►o says tht► Into (auvut•ruant ni►vur pxl ►uott►~i it to c►►st' over.l~il),O(N) ay~ar, Wull; it rli ► i not cost rnuro than thnt 'in I876 =7 'A The hon• gon .tlernon ,oruitturl to state Chat titu stuu nnured included the entire cust ofg,►s iuisliuctiun ns well iut uf wuig lits and mur►lrtrta ; and t} t over ~b0,-110U of feus wure ruvuivu ► 1 la .yt year. .

Mr. MArt>n kttïNaN-I 'stater) tl►at :Mr• I3ttOrvN--Well, that left the entiro uiiet uf the ptedsurei ~usE :what was antiuipaioci bÿ ite aittht~rs, The 11111 . muntlezni wu a tnpe I3.11 ► AeAed . His friends were completelyï~lirotn n both Hoitsps then . ~i~ he ubjeui to its passage 1Mr. MACPN I~A13 6N-r l did not,Mr, $ftowx .-WN~ then 'di-ie the . hori, ~entlemàn oo~nplain so6eroely spw►et thut' whioh he himself and his own frïendi did 1, Is itbea►uee their rtucoeaeore did hot at oha oa.t 4 orubo .rd witl~eul trial. or ~ ►ttempt to annend it~ nupqrFwytioiiti 1 , .

Mr. MAOi'$EIiSON--Tho question is, What Govsrnniont pilt it intq ,

some weight lnight have attached to liie indignation. But •whon h e

operation ? . ; .. V

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Mr: Rnowx-~ âprrehonci it 'was Mr; 13runel°whn .~► n,t~ it irito opera-tion: The hon, gentlelnan's noxt objection is to the item of $4,90.1 for'the prevention of adulteration of food . He Says ho cannot eou the useof it ;' but 1 fanoy that no one who takes tho trouble of .road ing therel~►rt of the Comluieei►►n .will agr4 with him. The pitblio benetit thathNs already rise ►i frolu it is very groat . Some of the exposures madeby tho oxaminationA of the Conl ►nisaionors have been muet ealutary .The rrext objeetion; the hon . Senator nnakoe is with reg}ïnd to the PublicWorks l)opartnnent ; and what ( 1oos No say its to that ? Why, he inobliged to admit a larqe•reclnetion, but iw,sayA, " its far as he can bee,'after lo ►►kilig through it, the wholo, of thy,re ► lucticm is in nlanilal lal ►or .The salaries are not in the least altered ; the ru ► luetiun is all dn wiigûH . "And hclw else coul d it he ?'l' lie hhn: ' Sonator knows well that incarrying on great national woriks a rog illar staff of skillo► i men must bealways retaine~i,, and that when thc~ laek of work or la~ck of revenuecompels reductions the offoot inuat fall first i ►n the eul) ûruun ►erarios ,it is oluty to fill an order for lal ►ourere, but you cannot enaiiy got ul ► alletlioient staff hf.akillod oversdorh and fbreluon . . I)oi ► s•th© hon. içentle -innn attofiüpt to ju ► iiit out any ni6lnbor of the staff who coa~ ► 1 or onglt ttu havo been dispensed with ? . Ni ► thilig 'of the kixtd. • Had ho doue s«

brings a mate,vugue railing iuoh as this, it 1(►oks )uore,like an i►nxiuuqdesire to hunt uli an electioneering cry than a~lything olwè~ . . The 1 ►► rn,gontlpnian thon pessotl on to thc+,itunl of:Cont~itvgonoied--and I wondor.ed what 'ho would say about it •; for 1•ha►:i ullaly$ed this item for x,jicy.eare paet-throe; Ÿ,f thenl under tho reign of ~he late Ministry andthree under the preAent -and' l fnlmd,that in tho ~ld reign thé atnount `ran rapidlyup every year, 'and in 'the' present re~gn it ran as rapidlydown. Her® "he figure

s Torylteign . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1871 ,2 $ l ti~,y2n a~~ ', . . . . ~' . . . 1t3724 189,17

4 873-4 222,803irtortf~ Iteig~~ , , .. ; ., ; . . .

: ~ 1~H74• â 'L()K7(17of . . . . . . , . . .t. . . . . : . . 187 11 •0 171,54 8' . . . . . .. 1 8 7 0 •7 . 161,970

Well, what said the hc ►n. gentleman as tt ► this ltun~ I H0 sai ► i thatthere; Was hure a"+rntifying'rorluutiun"-~-•"but " he yu ► l ►wi thcr~ woro .nopontponomont ►r in this capû"---th ►►t in, that liayrnc ► Its had not boon tl systo- ",Iuntiçally loft out ,,and thu: ►►caounte,thorul ►y coùkoi~ ! And tiliA th ► n ►ghthe huil . gentleman cannot nanu+ a si ► iglo'inatanco in which any accounthuwi±ver snisll, was over postponed by the preecnt ,(lç ►vernment, \

M ~. MAer'H'a jtsoN--Nr ► t likely ! .Mx . . BanwN-" Not.likoly" 1•--why, thon, do von porin"{tyoareel~ to

makn insinuations that you ciu1nrlt sustain, and that yt ►u w►nnot .bo-lieve yuurself ? .Then ~~.►luos .tho Adn ► inistrationi of Just•icw-and hcre\the hon. gentleman tires up fiercely at the, innrease of $108;660 on that .

but the hon, gentleman knows perfectly well it arose, first, from the ,ei.tablishrnent of the new Court of Appeal in Ontatio, over which the, ,•

Dominion Covornnient,hnd under the AoÉ of Confoderation :no contml ; .and ncc~m~li fr~m~ tho est .►►I ► l,ishin©nt of the :iuproiu}i C(rurt of the o-

must 1 ►o kol.►4 in- mind that we have had for douiu tirudpast vdry

such tinieà in its most ►1ari,lig'att,ituries. Tho dnotAuous'skrinkage in .

have lial l ruuCh to F114 Of late about Canada being made a i~hw htermarket for, forejKrr Kcrcxl~a` ; but- what wc ►~tld they mot have irm,ic~had

revenue a> ~Tontreal wdrit down, at -T ►,ronto it wont up . I cartnot

.nrini~ ►ir, wlrich was t►ntioil ► , ►tod at the Union, which was tirgm it lywarrtod to l{ivo tuiiforinity to the jurisln~ùileilco , of the wlri ► lo Dominionnml had lieu► i tuo lun~- ► leforrod . We all rocollccthow often the Jnto (i~,vorn3norrtprr ► utiKwt this'trio►►xure to the country, and as ►► ftûn , }►ost-1 ► r~ui ► i it f r►►rh ehe~ir w►►nt - ofAfi rnuro Hs to iloal with it. }3y evorX (;}ov=ernmo ► rt, by every pr►► i~ui ) unf, politioiitn, * ►trul by ovc►ry . , lorulitrg juristA lie`i ►bm ► lute necosaity for a Supryr s ie Don4 iu j c,u Court has beontHiwrttod,and I nui i ►nraxo d, tl ► t►t the hrn ► . gentleman voitures tocon ( lotnn it . Theh►m. '9ontlriniur'n :noxt eomplaint ' is as to the incr©udod exponiae of theCi 1 st-nls 1)ul ► artment . - Il nnwurrtn 1,0' 063 , :30 5) inoytul ►arisurl with I873 -4; aürl that any iucroasu' should have l ► oan hooesRUry is irnd oabt-ocllÿ to be royrette► l : .]3ut it'niust lro romenibored that Prince Edward ,laliuid in the threo years' ints3rval has joir ©d the Uniont and thdt he r(~uet►nirti establishment luulto 1 ►0 ad ► ied to the iurttuaI cost Of tho. D►ipart-~,ruént. ( ; ruat `chnngoà, too, have ocQUrrè►►1 on the Upper '~,akee~ andtht•i ► uglruirt the North-wost and the - Yuoitio coast, rendérin yu+©afrilc► t3iciur~t u~rrun gourontr♦ for 1 ► rcitoctin ~ç thu Customs revenue. ~hon, t(w} ,

sovom tin ► es, and that during such 1 ►ûriu► is '~rtrerno vigilance isclc- 'inunrlt'A from the Customs Dol►artyient,' sutugf;liirg, éhowitrg itsulf at

the values of giwrls ; too, iuuet~ravn ►lerxmrle► 1 conHtsn t watchfulness atovory port to ~arevunt the. un c~r-valuatiun of iiûport~eiotrs-~and thatcuul 11Ad 60 ( uue witthuut oxtrr► . expenee. . Hon . gentlemen opposite

thome " slat~htor-gooas~; tieon-perniitt;ed to ba britught ,into'thé ouirntr~r . °•without the olosost inspection by efficient otficere 1 ; . 'Mr. N &ct'tiattaoN-What of the Montraal ' Custnm H~,uae ~ . .Wïlltho hc►n, gentleman say nothing about" the decline of revenue And the '

inoroase of„ezpotiditur.o therG ? • . . ~Mr. f3tZOwN-Ianr gla►itho-ün. $ontlorrrau ~remin~is nie 01 that .~,Whut orle. ►lnco losos r►nothur lilnc© gains ; and 1 notice that thoagh the

~ ► ret.ond to, ju~1~u ué to the exact strength of staff noceAsary to beruuint~►irio► 1 at 111i,irtroril-- 1but liroliably thb customs authi ►rities' arrtioi-INtto an eurly re►cuvûry frr.îrnt the novere eiuiuuüruinl dopret+siun that hasunhalrl ► ily oxisted at that pniut-and with that a oorrespunding ro~~►very►► f t`uston ►s rà+venuû.' It mis of the btontru ►► l (~tràt►auis ouee, I'th'[nk, .th~►t thu hotir . guntlernair vént l tr tx l to mimait as aIl einkèf corruption ." 'lie sAia Vint tilt, (7ustours llojurrtrnorrt of the United ~tatés was rottynto tho curu, but it wait not worse than we hall horo . - ' ' 1 •

Mr. M.tprrssrtebr--I spokc ► f the Now York and Boston Customlioûsos . Th'epe ary the only Custom Ifciuâee in the United States Iknowarfything ~lrout .,. Mn. Itttowrt--But be that as it may, it was utterly~unwarratrtableof the on . gontloinan to akply such worvls as he did to the blontrem :Custom liouse as now administered, or to any utheer public departrnentof Canada . It was as totally unwrarranted as the i l' 9 Lns nrua rott u t e hon,~èutleuuaz4 ia rvard tv kegpwg bs►qk +i►çvouota to 4ect the *n.n*

balance, whiah hé lmuet have known was a,direct inapeaohment'of th eAntegrity of the Auditur Qonoral ,

Mn. CAMPnF L[,--I think it wne' not with'rettpect to kerl)ing- backof accounts by the Cioverrunont ; it was with rofuronco to acconnn ta il l .the Ncirth-wet+t--- côrtuin p urvey<< ►rs who hacl el ►cnt largo Munis of nwiluy,and of whom tho hcm. Senator had hçard they had kopt back tht;ir 'accounts. It' is not the accounts the Auditor had anything t~~ 'du' ,with . `

. 1VXK . BROWN-The him. gentleman must not attotrJl►t to put thatcc ► lour on the charge now. - It is too luto •

MR. MAUPUFRtiUN•--l stated it at the time ; I did 'not drûatu ofanything .eleo .

,Ktt. I3ttowN--Thu hun, guntlwuan ttpt ► ku of North•woat necrntntR,'after . I had rupeatetüÿ itrgba him to oxhlain~but his charge wasdirect and unmistakable, and rel ►u 4tod uwro than emce .

Mtt. OA1NPHifI .r,--T6 charge wt13~ not with refur~►nce to ccioking th ePublic Acoei~nta ; it waR'with•ru~ru}}}nnn,,,,u to thu truûsacti o fts of certait tottioers in the North -wost .

Mx. I3aowN-I perfuctly unrjuretoo( l the hon. gontleïnnn latterlyto rufer to accounts in the North -HUKt ; but his urig•ititi charge, and thpone he ir{sinnateti 'ini ►re, than onco, was that accountb were kel ►t backat the end of the year to rurlucd the dutluit which honuut• book-keepingwould have shown. ~ ~ .

Mn. 11f AuPit ExiioN- I did' nut intontl to rutluct, un the Auditor-• ; ~~General .

M~t. Bk,owrr-- Whatevar you tnetult, you oertuinly i~ ruNect on allounneoted with making up t~ie ' Publio 'Acuounts, and, you are, bound

_, now to say what,aacaunts have been kel,tAaok. The hon. gentltitnan .-haa no right to make sweeping accusations against the Government andevade the distinct speoiCit .ation of what his charge, is. But enc~ugh ofthis for, the present . Lut us pain on to tho ' hon. gentlçiuan'i i indict -.nlent of the l'±:ntigrntion Ilepartnl ent• . And horo he has not only. fallenint4.) the most palpable errors, but the anlculations and conclusions hohas sent abruud in his pamphlets as well as in his KpoeollpN . are uttorlywrong and tniHehievcuu+. For nxtimple ; ho A6lepts three yoars as liiabaeiN--1872-3, 1874-5, and 1 h7Ci-li--Tand he status the entire uxl>~ilii i =turc in these years tu ttave: UeuTr,aa tullowr ► ; ,

tell of the Quari►ntine deductions, the re pe►yments , by the Pruvinoes

In 1872-3: :. . : . .

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302,770In 1 875 • 6 . . . . : . . . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . . : : . . . . . . : . . 385 ,84 6

Now, why did the Ilorl. gentleman state the cr>st in 1872-3 to have been$277,368; when the public ruturtiè show the actual eunl to have buen . , .$287,3681-and why did lie omit altugethur tho year 1873-4r whenthey were $:3tS,Ci72 1 - His friends were in office tttesô yearn--su'relythat oould not afford an explanation of it 1 And why did the heu . Ken-'ttNman omit to tell that those were bnt the groin disbursements of the .Department-that in every one of these years there were large sumsreceived back that ought to have been deducted 9 Why~did he omit to

pud the repayments on the lo@landio apd MenuoWtQ wdvapctes I And

why did he ,ignare, entirely ; the emigrants arriving by Suspension I3ridgo,, Portland, and Pum► na, and fit Halifax and St. Jphn-and

co► r11y nKeuü ►ô ' that t►o emigrants cau►o' to Ciuuula oxcopt, those by~U01)00 ,

St . Lawrence. . , ,

the St . Lawrence ? 14'hy d id he statu that the immigrants of 1 974-5

when th ►i i►tlieial returns show that 25 ,03 arrived in the ll,uuin.i ►►n, of

D}it . linowrt -;-YCsrtho }ion . gentleman drol ►ped that incid©ntal}y at~ the end of his ttirf; ►ttuunt-lmt w l ► ÿ ► ii ►1 lie conc0al the, filet that wliile '

he aeRUiuod the i ►mni#rtiti► )n ►►f •18,72-3 to have been :j0,901, his frienc}s,who were thon in ►► t}ico, rut l ► rnu► i it i►sli0,t)Fi0, of, which 26,990 uiajj ►e by

were but 1E3,038 , when the official rot ► irn ►►f thu"llupartwont shows A7-:382 to have arrived, ►►f which 12 ,043 came by "the 5t . Lawrence? Whatright had he to statu . that the immigrants of 187 54 t wore only 10,00 1 ,

whi Ch 7,0 came by the S t . L ►t'wrw ► cu '1 ' The hou . gentleman mayI ►u ►► sibly knuw ►nnru about the auittur than anyone 480-but why did►d umit„tu tell that his figures wûre in entire upiws ►tion to the utHciKl

record, and that they assunied it whulusalu falsification of . the un ► ilçrn-ti ►m returns by the ►► tfiicurs of the (7 0vurj ► n ►unt'1 And could any thiuH►►w ro rol ►rehuns i l ► lu be i ►nnKiuu ► i than for the hun . gentlu ►niu►, having

_t,j ► u k suttlu,l his figures for h'tM ► ~ii wlf, to igno'ri► all du► luctiuns and pru-coud ° to average the whole gru~s ' cust of immigration on his ownasaun ►ud nu ►nbors ; ' nw ►1 son►1 that~nbrwul over the land as the eost .percapitu of each immigrant 't The rusulx' of this n}anipûlatiuu by thehun, gentleman will be 'eeon 1►ythe fi,lluwing -cuntrastA of the hpn .guntloman's stateü ►unts ►u d the Official Iiu turns of the Ao}►axtu ►unt.And first as to thu annual 'iiutt âxpenditurô for emigration :~--

~llr. Atucph;craon. dfficicif A'cturn.i872•~ . . '. :' . . . . . : . . . . . . . . . : . . . .. . .Vx77,art; ., . . . . . . . :, . . : . . ., . :. . . . . . . . . . . 2 lnt3,a171874•5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ;3u2,770 . . ., . . . . , . . . . : . . . . . ., . . . . : ., . . 241,0001 .t37i5 .(f . ., . : . . . . . :3815,847 . . . . . 228,0771876-7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . r. . . . . . . . . .

; . . .. . . ., . . . . . 110,ï370

Mn. . MAr6rt ► EKSnx-•I statocl that I réfcrr6l to thi3 emigrants by tbe' »

- And iii, jv ►t$ t,i *tho cost lier cltpito ;--

Air. Ah►cpl►crma ~ . • . Official Return1s72•3, . . . . . ., $ 7 71i

, 1874•6 . . . . . ., . . . , 18 00 . . . . ~. . : . . ~~~ no

. . . . . ~. . . . . . , . . . ,

1H7rS•li . .., '.' ~ 882

1E378•y . . ., . . . ~,

. . . . ; ..'lt3 o(s

. . , . . . . .~ . . ; . . . .'. . . . . . . . . . . . ., $ t~C

•, .. , . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 08

gentleman is ruadixig fru ►n -the figures hon ►!wi tu hiw by~the lion . .Mit- Mn ► ~i~r► h ►triun -11y statuiuunt was strictly correct . The lion . -

~inistur'liAcc

c)f~AQriculturu `yusturd,►y, w~► iuh are ontiroly ul ► l►ode<1 to theubo unnts . My state inunte are in strict a ►nfurn ► ity w !th the

Public Acioutiis . The hon. Diinister of Agriculture said yesteay mytigures were incorrect ; that my figures includw►l qt~arantine; Thatwwi,inoorreot. I1e said I dia not ►le► ludt refunds from the Provinces ;'

.that alsu is inoorrnot, Z`hey are in the Public' Aeouu~►tr. ` : JMK• Pst.i.UTtira-But not in your sti►tement.

Dtçr. Bsow.r•-The 1tun, gentlenqan,inourred a serinus rc~poinyib!}it~y. . , ,

of . Dupartutent ►►l TuluKruphin .Iie r~ai.l from the Publie Ae~ccittts~.the statpntent that the' cust u~ this service,in,1t37•3-«t (the 'last of theMacdonald 0uvecaujunt) was but V30,925, while in the first yeari►f th

e present (3overnmentit was $;3t3,t107\ - And how excited the hunc>unJAMgentleman (iiil t►ocotue .abbut it, to be mitre ! We11, this did appear to

about which the hun, gotitlunthn r+ ► is9d aturriblu hulht .l ►aluo ---the item • -

in settd ing - such inaccurate statements abroad, and rnaking chargesagainst the (lovorniliunt utterly itic`t n sistunt with the factd. The firstthit ►g wo.shall have ~uti ► ii ►g to us abrusk the Atlantic . will 14 a nows- ;hal ►ur annuuncuutout that we 1 ►ay'$26 6-7) for every à mil;riknt ' we gotfrom the Mother C ►nuttry.' The t;oxt subjuct of att7tok is the militiauxpon ► liturt;, which shows it ru( luc ttutt uf 1E 426 , 926 from thù year 18713-74, The hon, gentleman says it it quito impossible that sttch ►i.ri►► luc-tic ►n can be right . ', T'hu change its I'un~l ►+rntan ► 1 it, is siitthl y this :that huruto foru 40 ,000 wilitin w oiro A rillo►1 uvury your ; but by thiscurti ►il►nuut it•i$1 ►ruliuse►1, whilu the 1 ►ruaunt fin ancii► l stringency uxists,that the'40 ,000 militiamen shall be ( lividud into two bodies, and one-half drillud ywarly in nlternatu ► n dur . We all, I'utu suru,,uarnqstly► iusire that the militia force of the I)t ►InitliuW 'Khtlll IlU tn ►tintuinud infull ufliciuitcÿ ; but in au ( :lEM4~ t► s ►us the 1 ►rusont hew Oint this Win-pMhary modification of the practice bu 1114 +iu juHx sitbject of indignantcuwl ►► iiiüt, uel,iwiullyfrutu thu , tuuuths of such ardent 000110111 ists asth

eh►►n. ~guntluntuu u } ►poiaitu 1 'I`he ' nuxt item in the hou . swit ►pt~,r'

s bill i,f ci►n ► ► luint was the ruducti ont ►►f $ 1 92,642 uu Manitoba land sur-vuys, " 1hat re~lucti<►n ;" the huit . gentleman uxclaitus, '~` is there intllt? - Ybu have ro t luae4i, .ihu survuys ' by that atnuunt -- is, thateconomy l You will stup .thuut next year altr,kuthur -will that, lot),be a swing ? And if any otlu is entitled to cru d it, tu' whuut should itgi, but to thosv that drove the (luvernutdnt to it t" - ,Ah, it in nu ltur ► lto ,loit.ac~ the hun. gentleman ! * If you don't r~+trunch he abuses y~,u,an►~ if you do rutrunuh ha ' is worse than over. The next item is une ,

me averÿ large sum, and so I ilroppe& into the Finance, Departmentand asked an explanation uf 'it from one of the c ►Niuer►+ of the Del►art- -ntent, He went at onuo and looked into the tpatter, and I ntn surethe hon. gentleman will be rulievu d and duligh tud w.heu he huars thatin 1E37:3•4 there were only thruu-fuurths of the year's tulugrr► l ►hing in- ,b lùded, ün(1 that in 1 874-5 there were five (jtiarturs charged. (L.oud - .

monta of I tts own friends. The cuntrast now stands as follows : - . .great economy ellûutud,liy, the prusunt Ministry on the luviyh ~liswursu-,

gral ►hic cow ►► laittt, and 1 cwll thu hon. Kuntlutq ►m's attuntio ►i to ► . the

cries of hear, hear,) It no ha )pune~l that the ~luarturly 11i11 of theTelegraph Company was du1+►y~►~ sc► long that the t i+,vurnntunt ►wcuuntsfor thû your worci, clu sud lwf+ ►ru it could be uurtitiuil, and it had, ofcx►urwu, to g„ to thu nuxt yuar's accatllltr. "~1'Itu ufiuct uf,this correctio

n of thehon . K untluuuwn's figures untiruly changes the im l►out of the tolu- . .

. . . ~ . ~, ~ . , , . . . ~ .. .1873.4 . . .. . . . . . . .

.. .'. . . . ., : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : .=32,107

1t174-tS ., . . : . ~. . . . . . .' . ; \ . . . . . . . . ., . ~. . . . . . . • 1i),328187ii~6 . . . . . . .. . . .. •. . .• . . . .1• 19,431187tf•7 . . . . . . . . . . .. . . ., . . . . . . . . . , , . . . . . . 16,2aa

There is another charge that the hai, gentleman preferred against the

t*naq4t.lun lttiuwp qA the 14te;qnloiµal tâusl ►ensg 'Ao9ount---at1a 4 very 'Administration, aetl it in thé lwt loft for oonsideration . I tefer to the •

4

dn

simple mRttor'it aepms to. be vt•hen clearly explained. The 50,000 tonsof ►+t ►-el rails bmtghtt for the Pacific• It ►tilw ►►y, as we all know, were notall wanted for that road at onco, ► tn ► I it w ► ta put to capital ncc ► unt. The •monoy wr<y paid, and ot' conrso went nt•onee intt► -the Public AccountA .So far as the cash is ci►nccrticci, no wrong is ullegoti .' The st'atotnunt Of'the hot) . Sonator clcicrsot uëi~ct the mcinoy in the lc~ ► tst, or the accuracy

.• of the Public Accututtn: ► ; oi ► ly, .liu rilluKus, it affects tho balance of laht

portions of it were applied toat ►y porvicu ; the value w ► ts do ► iuctecl from the cttillitwl nccc►unt ► tnd charged to the sl ►caiul sorvicu tt,'which the iror t

and theru iwcut ~1ct of t1tiK Lugislaturu duol,trin;{ that this s1u►1) be sw . •

year of Revenue aüM I~.xI ►oitditttro . ; An accoqttt was c►Ilunoa in the. t©clgcr for tltis„ i`tY ►n, ancl it was stored at certain places . ~1 s fast as

wôut. In ' rogarc) to the Ititercol ► mial Ra ilway it was cluteruiine,ci-y-and1y we will all ailii ► it wisuly ► lottirniitictl - ns eoon as possible to'takVtil u iron ri66 and put steel r i tilH,ci own . . . We all, know tho srivin geH'►~cta+i by i ubetitttting steel rails for ircin nnos----nn ►I it was ctoter ►ninu► 1

- by tlto l,rosc-nt Administration from thcvcry nonentthuy cane in, thattlte 1 11 turcolonial Railway shc ►uid bu ro•stee letl, not all at once, but thatin the 1 ► l ► icu 8 most worn the tritck 0 tu ► tld be ronewcid to the extent of

•$200 ,01 111 uvory year. That wui► t on, In tito year ending 31tth Juüe,1873, thù re-I ► tyit ►g was v âfriu ld out to the vi ►luu of $80,522-=and this "ai ►►oni ►t wits duly uro d itu ► I to the l'acilio Ituilw►►y iro ►► accotint and' .ehntKc ► 1, to the 1t ► tcrw ► luniul Railway. In _Iti7~ >~t',~,1t1,G1K of etool .rrtils,woru thug c ►1► t ► yi uuti a ffi 1 ro-laid - titi the itltorculunial trauk ; in 1 876 ,*241 2 , :381 ; and in 1876 , $21 5,289 . In 18 77, its [ u ►tilerat►utd it, it wassul ►l ► opud desirable that there sh6itld be it larger quantity uNtitt thanhad l ►ucàn - dr ►ite befc, ► ru. It".w►►s thought very cluhiraRr~u that sotnépartaof tho .rqaci ehc► uld be rolaidat once ; and the 'clueation , cunio up ,;•houlcl they adhere to tire syixtern of charging the I nturcolonial at therate of W11,000 a year, or uhargc.+ the whole $543,000 of iron that wasw ►tntod in one year nqainet the road . '1`~e former ►uourse wius dacicledttlwn. N ow, this decisroit , of the Dt+pa rtatent may have been -right, cv

r it,may Iinve boon wrong ; thl►t is eortuinly a tuatter of olrinictn ;'for my own►art I think it was the ri►usonablo course to take . . When the ln-

turcc,~onial • Itailway ncouurtts ►rre Irïtblishod ;al ► rund jt is not dciKirt► l ► l®'that the 6ost of rtt,aintairtit tg it ehoadd appear any•tuciru itnfavo~rablethan the facts jnntly iiutuanci . . It iq well known that the C►lreat WesternRailway Co . charge three };Itinouy per Con to capital„ aoùcntnt for every .stue l rail they put upon' the trctit► k: 1Vo ku'ow, tai, thu Grand TrankCompany charge the whc~► le , of the, atool rû-layiug t~► capital , 1wvi,un .t ; .

That Act was 1 ►as 4 wl by the Homo of Cotwuons ►uul by th'►H, Huusu -au"l thu •ht ► tt . gentleman hinmulf v.otud for it,` : .

• ~ hlit. MAutrtttwidoN ' -f)uus that Act apply t~► the Inttircolonial ltail- .wAy t

Mit . I3ttOwx •--No--yc ►f course nc ► t--htlt 1 am hhowing that whkt•wabdoue aa to the [nterûulunial was a ri►aéutntl ► lu Zhing tu dc ►, 'l'hie sideof the Iloueu, in discussions that have tuken place oit this iltio®tion,ciiff rud froin the Into (Jovertuuont, who agreud with the Grand TruttkIttii~N•ay ► Kitcl hold that the ro-laying of steel mile on (lc ►vornmentroi►cla Ahc ►ulcl Lai ohargdd to onpital accxfunt. ThiA side of the Housedid not hold tlti ►t ; and what bas been done on the Interoulnnial was amere compromise ' between the two plane. Had • tlie eyistein beenoarried out' on the Interaolonial Ae contended for by hon . gentlemen. . • . . . . as . . . . . .

hpposito, then the C3overnment wôul~l not hnt►o fotind it rieeebeat`y ~charge thia .at all ;`it would have gonn tq capital account . But vyhat

rafla were transferred from one locality to tinc;thor. Will anyuno any that ;

capital aec(tunt as it waA, anti have orotlitwl it inerely with the usual

they, , ditl was thia : thôy took $i~4,3 ► 01 ►0( worth of , rails front chj► italnccount, charged $200,000 of it-the rùytAonal ► lo l)rpp~ ►rtion which theyhad been in the habit of charging . yénrly-tlirect, to the IntercolonialItailway, and ntt the balance honestly',and sciitaroly in the Public Ac- •comnte as an Intorci,lnnial Railway suspense ►ipcûunt--rti ► be wiped outthis year and next year.

' MR. . MACPHN;R:fnN-.-nid they nnt No . the whola qtiantity last ,year 7 ,MR,. BROWN-I d.id not ask that question.' I do not know.MR. MAUPHIERNQN-la it dorio in accorclance with the resolution of

the Government to charge everything as ezpuntlituro on rovenuo ?Mit. BRowv---Tho hon. -gentletnan is fighting it shadow . , What

difference (loci that mako '1Mi. MAr.,PHw:RSpN--It is evident that $► P)43,()00 wt►rth of

.rails have

been used in renewals, which aceortiing to the reat ►lntiûn of the Ot ►v•ernment really should have been charged to ro`vonue . . Instead of thnt ,only,$20Q,t ► Ot ► is charged, and the balance in put an a hlind in a Aueponaeaccount.

- Mit. littowN-Tl ►e lion . gontleman sht ►ultt not use that wnrt lIt was perfectly straightforward, and-was f ►► lly oxlrlninutl in the Publi cAceounte Cornmittee. I, atin ► it the hon . gontlou ►an - nutiy holtl thot, pinittüthat the rails having boon handutl over to the Inter(SU1JUlial officers,the full atnount should have boon enteretl ang,iinet that Ctm ► 1 ► :tn-y. ,Bntthe Intetoolonir► l Railway bolunge to the peop le of Canada--the railsare thern ' the transfer doua not affect the 'soonrity:---the rails are asmuch at capital account an they o'ver woro-• anti thore in not one singleshilling lets ta-daÿ to tndt the public doyt . than thore was befuro the

it makes the slightest difference to the country whuther those rails Noin a heap at capital account or He in the tr ►►ck of a(Ioverntnont rail-way at an Intorooloniul suspense tioeount.I . Had any " blind " Wonfntentled, wh.y open a snal ►enso acot ►urit at all I Why not have left the

annual- proportion of $2011,0001 . , 1 •

ic,nt►urable gentleme ►.i, I have now gt ►nn through the entire chargesand ~ oeti~ ►nd of t .he .l►on . Senator (Mr. 1,b[aepheraiom) ; and I'put it t

o every hc t. tnomhor of thiaellt ► uHo wliothor thura i4 one single item in th ewhole tho hon, gwitl6man'!3 intiiutinunt for which th6 xlighteAt .rnora lrep h can be caet . upon the gontloruen on thii 'I'rwteury benchHa .W' atry hon . gentleman s ay tltnt one instance hall been ahown of 0111-p le neglect on the part of the (Iuvi+rnn ►ent ?Oan any hon. gentle-

an .aÿ that the slightest proof has been given of even thoughtles swaete,on thé part of the Glovurnmenti Nothing of the kind has beenshown. Honourable géntlernen, the men vrhn govern this Con,federa-tiùti--be of what politics they may-have no light burd@n on theiiehoqldern . ' We an eight separate Cnloniea, brought audâ®nly topth*r ;

we have a vast oitont of country,,strotching from oc®nn to ocean - ; weare of difiôry►nt racoA, we shcak d'rfforônt langiiagea, we have differ-ont fnrma t►f roligiuna faith ; Hntl .wo are rill in the éarll' stages of materialand social devololmibtit . Our r©iwospntativ©n in Parliamont coi 1 te 111►

Who have the ûrntnesa ah ►i tho aliility and the tact to prornote right,

the fleuri in 187:3 of the coining fin ►inei~il stor►u, you scorned thoir'ativicq

froui all sections of crtir wide d01naitï eal ;or .to do well for their sneciK lconstituencies; and too apt tci forget the interests of the -whole,Tl ►o urgent policitati!ons for ctinco9slona-r9aâonablo concessions if thepublic chost were oxhaustloes--that ara constantly conting uli (rom all "► liroctions to the Miniatry of th© day, are without end ; and thù %nen '

reaibt wrc ►ttg, and seek to ntoitldtho discordant e1etnônte into % hàr-p.►c~niouA whole,'(loHUrvo arid „ught to receive the cordit ,►1 sympathy bnd~sui)purt of every ~tnuutbor of this' Ch► itnl►er. • It is utt,erly i ►upossiblrAthat the wit of tnan coul ► 1 avolcl urrorA in the administration of affairssu vast and tnultifari►aue, but I confess I have rison from an'earties

t and thor►iu{fh examination of the publio affairs and accounts of thQ1)ontini ►►n with high g ra titic ►itiun at tho ability, the uprightness , theoo►►nou ► y, a1141 the ntarkClli flUcc usN with which uty lion . friend and hisc ►►Ileguop nuw gr►vernint{ the c► iw ► t.ry havo ,fultill6 ► 1 their dittioült tas

k eincvthey aseuntnd ► .► flicu, ._" Ah, 1 ►,ut," exclaims the, hun . gentleman ' . ." there is atteticit Yes, thero is a ilofioit-ünfortunatelÿ there is adeficit. But it is because the right nion are in the rig-t ►t place,that thatdeficit is not inîtnitcrly grôater. It is because mou of ability and saga-city are at the helm that, iri epite c ►f two coneocutive doficite, pvpri Ob-ligation of the country has1 ►qcntttot° to the hour,--tho ereditof th

e country was never before an high in the money markets of the world,-and the Cana(lian people have unshaken ar►hfidenco that the revenue

and exl)entlituru will be slwetiily equalixô ►1 without undue pressure ont1Se industry ti►n~l uoiuutoroo of the country . - When the leaders of theI.ibotal .i ► artÿ wr ►rnuci you Lturning to the ConsOrvative leaders across

and wuut on cu ►ntnitting the country •to' otiorrhous obligations . . Whenyou were ►lrivun frutû' power for your corruption anÙ' incal ►aoitY . andthey asked in 1874 for inorot►ao& biii~l ► liùs to u ►out thiA cotuing stornt-•- ,you troato ► i their tloniand with t lerinion, you denied its nocessïty an dctpjwped it at every turn . Wheii Mr.: Cartwright negotiRted his firstfanM ►us loan in Li► r► ilun-,thrit stands unequalled as a finanoial st>,cceesin the hiat~ ►ry of this ur any other colony, that raised the credit of Can.ada higher than ever it stood before, and . thut carried the oountry ~safely throtigh the enorroous difficulties you had oreat~il-yuu decriedthe groat publie service he achieved, and ùtnlignea the n egutistor. Andwheit the Tinanoe Minister struok the happy time-not one momenttoo soou--achievod his second succossful loan, and càrriwi the ship of

'--Ng»!in you Pneligned the zW and vilifled his!W, whqq the atotm bas well-n#gh p Med •- wheu

the when the commercial barometer begihA io~

lave , beon nz powe r the total expenditure amounted to--

ed 9=9= t11st;there ia a ;deSoxw I Well, w#at, after all, doee this fee ►r-ful t1duBAnrnmt td 9 W1►ÿ, in the three yeari+ .the presenl Mitûstiy

w3atei-4o -edd tp the ernbsrtassment ; you, in the feoe of 'all, pretend1054, W~ra4 Oat tbety in a deficit I You cannot oloAk,y~oûr, irmother-

oi au -#tqFa rtys, r~ and persqnsl ; two bad m+ops withii>~ the tl►ree7e~ a I~nr► .aeenuioy Ioroec~!-~n the mannes of eveiy land~ ; an open

"114"W, *0100o*• ho w , the Glooeftutent mesti to equilixe the balance- :eheet T. VMth' oodam 'ba~ôeisl and induistrial deprOesion all over the worl

d AUSRMW};Mbarra.ament everjrwliere ; immense shrinkage in the valûe

t1►Mw~~6oif," .OXd el1L 9 a my hom.'friend to'rise on the instant and ~

MoM~ ~,~~l~glo~y that the xevenue is lbduoed glory that

NuN►~!~1l~1 . 1M~ +ys~a~ ,dA~►A e re' neai àt hi►ud-youi 1~--' yon *ho'-,, . .

And the revenues to . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , ., ., . . ; : ,• . .

&? 17OA ? AA

; ~tüt let it not be forqotten that in these saine years there 'wasIpaid.

frôimi~e ireve►ïques of the country* • itito the Sinking Fund for the ez-tin~ of the National Debt, no Yens a auui 'thsn $2 ,.2ü7,089-~~oir withintwo i6dred thousand dollars of the entire deûoit. ` fihe 'de8oit, in fact,wa~ï►4ripd,bq~areduotion of the Public Debt. I. that a balanc~e-nhheetild"

.~neA , ►n ths ~tbée>~t to alarni any one 4 Far faro>~n it . . One step :4Wdor4 rptur,ui,4 fprosperity would put a totally. netr i~uipeot. ~ . , . ~o~ ~iot~rré-i~n8 8'~ cause have the' people ôf_G~►nada to rejoice

men they ~uive!now priWding over their•aftito; oome N torin ori~a m, will 4)e found equal to the ooawion .- r . . _ . . . . . . . .

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