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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS Measurement of non-market output in education and health OECD/ONS workshop London, 3-5 October 2006 Review of European and OECD countries experiences Education output methods

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04/10/2006Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS  Commission Decisions 98/715 and 2002/990 clarified the principles for the measurement of prices and volumes.  This Commission legislation has identified the most appropriate estimation methods to be applied (A and B methods) and the methods which shall not to be used (C methods).  The old Member States were asked to remove the C methods by end Some legal aspects in the EU

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Page 1: 04/10/2006Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS Measurement of non-market output in education and health OECD/ONS workshop

04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

Measurement of non-market output in education and health

OECD/ONS workshopLondon, 3-5 October 2006

Review of European and OECD countries experiences

Education output methods

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

The availability of price and volume measures of GDP is essential for:

1. Monitoring economic development in the EU

2. The monetary policy of the euro area3. The implementation of the Stability and

Growth Pact

Importance of price and volume measures for the European Union

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

Commission Decisions 98/715 and 2002/990 clarified the principles for the measurement of prices and volumes.

This Commission legislation has identified the most appropriate estimation methods to be applied (A and B methods) and the methods which shall not to be used (C methods).

The old Member States were asked to remove the C methods by end 2006.

Some legal aspects in the EU

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

In June 2006 Eurostat sent to all Member States a list of questions on price and volume measurement in the fields of non market health and education services.

The main objective was to assess and monitor Member States progress towards removing C methods by end 2006.

In this context, the sharing of experience between countries is of utmost importance.

During the same month of June 2006, the OECD launched a similar questionnaire to OECD non-EU members, in the perspective of its „non-market project“ (best practices).

Aims of the list of questions

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

The list covers solely the output methods currently used or being developed by the countries.

24 out of 27 EU countries (including Iceland and Norway) replied to the list.

7 OECD non-EU countries replied to the similar OECD questionnaire, but only 2 (AU, NZ) currently apply output methods and other 2 (KR, US) study a project.

Scope of the list

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

The list covers five aspects:1. Stratification2. Quantity indicators3. Weighting4. Quality indicators5. Availability of the data

Structure of the list

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

A and B methods require stratification for, at least, the following categories:

1. Pre-school (ISCED 0)2. Primary (ISCED 1)3. Lower secondary (ISCED 2)4. Upper secondary (ISCED 3)5. Higher education (ISCED 5 and 6)6. Other education (ISCED 4 and non

formal)

Basic stratification (1)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

This basic stratification of the handbook is not always applied by some EU countries grouping two categories:

1. Lower and upper secondary (6 cases)2. Pre-school and primary (1 case)3. Primary and lower secondary (1 case)4. Upper secondary and higher education

(1 case) Same problem with AU and EU

(primary and lower secondary).

Basic stratification (2)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

Most countries apply some form of complementary stratification (by region and subject)

Only six EU countries use no complementary stratification

Complementary stratification

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

As interesting examples of stratification we can mention:

o A stratification in “ordinary“, severly disabled, other disabled used by Finland (also CZ, FR, NO, US for ordinary /disabled)

o A distinction between general and vocational education introduced by Finland and Norway (numerous fields) + AT and FR.

Stratification

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

Eurostat recommends the use of pupil hours as quantity indicator.

Number of pupils is acceptable if it can be shown that hours per pupil are sufficiently stable.

Number of pupils is recommended for tertiary education and distance-learning

Quantity indicators (1)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

13 EU countries use mainly number of pupils as quantity indicator.

11 EU countries use mainly pupil hours or full time equivalent pupils.

In this case most countries have estimated hours per pupil for one benchmark year and for the various categories identified. Then, they have considered that, for each category, hours per pupil are the same every year.

Quantity indicators (2)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

Quantity indicators:Pre-

school PrimaryLower

secondaryUpper

secondaryHigher

educationOther

educationNumber of pupils 55 54 54 50 62 69Pupils hours 15 8 8 4 0 0Number of pupils and pupils hours 15 21 21 25 14 15Other 15 17 17 21 24 15Total 100 100 100 100 100 100

Quantity indicators (3)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

M

Main nature of the sources:Pre-

school PrimaryLower

secondaryUpper

secondaryHigher

educationOther

educationSurvey 40 29 33 33 29 31Administrative data 50 58 58 58 52 69Survey and administrative data 10 13 8 8 19 0Total 100 100 100 100 100 100

Quantity indicators (4)

The sources used are mainlyadministrative data:

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

As interesting examples we can mention:

o UK uses pupils hours estimated as numbers of full time equivalent enrolled pupils adjusted to exclude pupil absences.

o Germany uses pupils hours by institutions under the assumption that for each institution they are the same as for the reference years

Quantity indicators (5)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

Eurostat recommends the use of adjustments for quality but an output indicator method can be acceptable without quality adjutment (B method).

When they are used, adjustments for quality are mainly based on:

o Class sizeo Scoring of pupils

Quality indicators (1)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

Quality indicators:Pre-

school PrimaryLower

secondaryUpper

secondaryHigher

educationOther

educationNone 74 39 35 35 57 91Class size 13 30 30 26 9 4Scoring of pupils 0 13 17 22 9 4Class size + scoring 9 9 9 4 4 0Other 4 9 9 13 22 0Total 100 100 100 100 100 100

Quality indicators (2)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

As interesting examples we can mention:

o UK uses quality adjustment factor calculated to reflect the estimated contribution that each year of schooling makes to performance in school leaving examination

o Italy uses a conversion function based on class size

Quality indicators (3)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

Quality indicators (4) The italian model of class size (congestion)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

The issue of quality is, indeed, a very difficult one, both conceptually and in terms of implementation :

o for instance, is it correct to refine the quantity indicator with pupil absence and to adjust on performance in school leaving examination ?

o Is not the performance / score when leaving school the „true“ quality of output? (for each pupil counted for one)

Quality indicators (5)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

Eurostat is interested to learn the ideas from this workshop.

Eurostat will continue discussions at EU level with MS.

It is important to work on administrative sources, in particular to help to reduce statistical burden.

Conclusion (1)

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04/10/2006 Francis MALHERBE, Eurostat, unit C1 and Alain GALLAIS, OECD, STD/NAFS

The reflexions on spatial comparisons stimulate the ideas for temporal purpose also.

The OECD hopes to have achieved some progress, in partnership with Eurostat, for a further workshop in Paris in June 2007.

Conclusion (2)