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Page 1: witnessslips.ilga.govwitnessslips.ilga.gov/house/transcripts/htrans78/HT102273.pdf · . y, . ,. 1. .. Clerk Selcke) HA message from the Senate by Mr. Fernandes, Secretary. 'r Mr.Speaker,

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ISEVENTY-EIGHTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY

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NINETY-THIRD LEGISLATIVE DAY !

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Clerk Selcke) HA message from the Senate by Mr. Fernandes, Secretary.

'r Mr. Speaker, I'm directed to inform the House of Represeatatives 1

the Senate has passed a Bill of the follèwing titley the veto off .

the Governor to the contrary notwithstanding, Senate Bi11 1198;

passed the senate october 16, 1973, by a three-fifth's vote, the .'

veto of the covernor to t:e contrary notwithstanding. Edward E.

fr . 'Fernandes. .

Speaker Blair: ''AII rinht. the 1st Special Session will come to order.' ''' ''''''''' '' ''' j. . . .

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#, . I. . ' The Invocation will be by the House Chaplain, Doctor Johnson. . I

Doctor Johnson: f'We pray. Merciful Father, i pray at the begianing ;J '

' . . of this Session as a representative of this state. I acknowledgep 1

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. first of all. the many prayers raised before you thfs past weekend . !:

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. ' . (' '' L from Bouses of worshfp fn thfs state; prayers whfch saw hea1th and .

. , . ' L - . ' ' ... A. ' '. .' prosperitv for our executive, our judgesy-and magistrates and our

. Legislators. I acknowledge the need of such prayers, O'-Lordy es- '' . -' . - .' . .' ' . ' ''. v ; ' . . .

. pecially when I think of the multiple Sessions facing me this day

' and this week, but now I want especially to pray for tbose who soug:tl '' ' . . ' '

. my well-being at Your throne of grace. Be with them as they have

. . gone about their duties this day. Bless the work of their hands,. . . , . . ,

. as.dwell as that of mine, that together we may serve our state and' . . ' '

- # ' . ' . : ltatic.a. Protect them i!1 d-weir several callins and conti aile to' '

shower upon our land those kifts we have in no ways deserved, but , ''.

' rwhich flow from Your unspeakable goodness. Hear me gracious jj . . . ' . . ' . . I

. ' ' ' '' Father, You who are the health and strength of a11 who seek your . I

. , , . 2 ;Speaker Blaix: ''Ro11 Call f or attendanceo'' 1* .. : ?'. 'k1kt,.1'.:.ê f ,! 1. 1 - '..'(.t. ) .: '. ,..'.. ')- k . ' I

' 4: ' . s. . . .. iClerk Selcke: Aléupk 'Anderson. .Arnell. .-Barnçs. Barry. Beatty. . :

' ' 715 ''2';'è 'f'Beatlpkew' Berman. ' vBluthardt.'' Borchers. Boyle. Bradley. Brandt. !. . . ' ' (

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. '..t:7f Brinkmeier. Brummet. Caldwell. Calvo. ' Campbell. Capparellf.

Capuzi. Carter. Catania. Chapman. Choate. Clabaugh. Collins.

Cox. Craig. Cunningham. Davis. Day. Deavers. Deuster. Diprima.' j'

. Douglas. Duff. Ralph Dunn. R. L. Dunne. Dyer. Ebbesen. Epton. jkiEwell. Farley. Fary. Fennessey. Fleck. Flfnn. Friedland. !i

. iGarmisa. Geo-Karis. Getty. Gibbs. Ciglio. Giorgi. Crtesheimer. E

Crotberg. Hanaban. Harpstrite. Hart. Hi11. Hfrschfeld.

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Gene Hoffman. Ron Hoffman. J. Holloway. R. Holloway. D. Houlihan.J. Houlihan. Hudson. Hunsicker. Huskey. Ryde. Jacobs. Jaffe. i

Emil Jones. Dave Jones. Juckett. Katz. Keller. Kelly. 1. '

t' Kempiners. Kennedy. Kent. Klosak. Kosinski. Kozubowskf. '

Krause. Kriegsman. Krone. Kucharski. LaFleur. Lauer. Laurfno.Lechowicz. Leinenweber. Lemke.. Leon. Londrigan. Lundy.

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. Macdonald. Madigan. Mabar. Mann. Maragos. Martin. Matijevich.u McAuliffe. Maâvoy. 'Mcctain..-? Mccornick. Mccourt. McGah. McGrew.

. ; Mctendon. McMaster. Mcpartlin. Merlo. Kenny Miller. Tom Miller.

. . - Molloy. Mugalfan. Murphv. Nardullf. Neff. North. Palmer.. . .p . '

.. : Phflip. Pierce. Polk'. Porter. Qnndolph. Rayson. Redmond. '

' .' Rfgney. Rose. Rvan. SanRùeister. Schisler. Schlickman.

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. Scbneider. Schoeberlein. Schraeder. Sevcik. Sharp. Shea.. ' t '; ' ' '

. . ? Shurtz. Timotby Simms. . Ike Sims. Eikinuer. Scdersttom. Springer.'Stedelin. Sthiehl.' Stone.. Taylor. Telcser. Terzich. Thompson. i

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Tipsword. Totten..' Tuerk/ VonBoeckman. Waddell. Wall. R. Walsh.'

- .W Walsh. Walters. Washburn. Washingtoa. Kftliams. J. J. Wolf. '' . . .k ' ' .. '

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. 1. ' ! ' . t' .-. B. B. Wolfe. Xourell. Mr. Speaker/' .. . '

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Speaker Blair: l'Ah . . . Introductions, First Reading.ê'' Clerk''selcke: HWait a minute, we#ve got a messageoê' ' i;

. . . t' Speaker Alair: ' 'Tl.ïessugea from the Senate. '''

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. Clerk Selcke: HA message from the Senate by Mr. Feraandes. Secretary.

.. . y j, . . Mr. Speaker, 1 m directed to inform the House of Representatives ;. q '

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. . - the Senate has concurred with the House fn the adoption of the .' '

following Joint Resolution to wity House Joint Resolutton //2, con-i!: . curred fn by the Senate october 16, 19739 Edward Eo.Fernandes.

Secretary. Yeah, she calleé me . .'. House Bill 14s Lundy et a1.'

) Illinois Public Campatgn Financing Kct. fixst Reading of the 3i11. I

' 'House B111 15, Lundy, appropriates $100,000 to the ordfnary and'

contingent expenses of the Campaign Flnancing Board. First Reading I'

jof the Bi11. House B1l1 16, Lundy, amends the Illinofs covernmental

Ethics' Act. Fivsc Readfng of the Bf11.''

Speaker Blatr: ''A1l right, the Geattemaa from Cook, Mr. Killtam uatsh.''

Walsh, W.: ''Ah . . . Mr. Speaker, I move than the 1st Special Sesston ladjourn until 9:30 a.m. tomorrow mornfng-''

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Speaker Blairt ''AII right, discuspion? A11 those in favor of the

' c tlewan's motion say 'aye opposed 'no'; the 1st Special session- en .. #

' ' ' is adjouraed until 9:30 a.m.. tomorrow. Regular Sessioa. Ihe !@ . .

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Gentleman from Cook, Mr. William Walsh, asks leave to have the E

same Roll Call for attendance that was taken tn the 1st Special

' Session to bè the Roll 6a1l of the Regular Session. Is there: .

. leave for that? A11 right, that will be the Roll Call for atten- (, ' j !

' ' ' ' dance in the . . . in the Regular . . . the Minority Leader has J

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' asked if I would'beg the indulgence of the è%mbership to have

ï ' introduced here today and to hear from bim for just a few minutes; '

. - . '7=,.a Member of the Cqngress, the former Member of the Philipine Congress.. . '( .. .. . . ' . ' .

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' ' I y . 'Doctor Ursua: Mr. Speaker, distinguished Members of thfs Legislature': . . . ' . L . @'; . ' . .

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J . . ' ' 2.'- .' ' '. of the State of Illinois, it is an honor and a privilege to be l

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' ' '.''' ' wtth you tlzis morntng, espectally because I am feeltng as l.f I ' '

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' '.am àack at home. For the benefits wfth the Philippine Republic has' ;. E

' been a respite from the great Republic of the Vnited Statesy makes j. . .

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. ... , me feel proud that I am with you to tell you that the Republfc of

' '. the Philippine'.s has greatly prozressed in its potitical and econ-

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.''' '-. omic condition . You must have known that tbe President Marcus . ' ë

'( . .- '.' at present is . . . has declared the martial law, 'Philippine style'. i

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' - ' ' , lphilippine stylè' because there was no mflftary takeoverp, . q, I say.

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, ;''l..J there was no sbooting. no bloodshed: but ft was intended to.': - ' .

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, (. g-'fnsurgency rebejlfon that was gofng on before the fmposf tion. of , j

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. the martial law. . Now, my frtendsy I am proud to tell you that. , 2. .; . ? x . . . . . .

. . P . . . . . .' ... ' ( : è' f. : after a yeary the Philippine s has not only reduced its problem

' of peace and order, fts cor/uptfon and 1ts eccnoafc prcblers; but i' . '

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. . ' we are progressing as expected by the people under the leadersbip

of President Marcus; and I think with another more year if he

' conefnues, the natfonal dlscfplfue ceuld have been establfshed as i

expected by the Philippino people. I am glad to inform you further

that the Amer . . . the Phtlippine people are proud of the benefi-

ciallties of your magnanïmïty for the more than 60 years that

' you were with us that developed the political system in our couatry

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' which you greatly have contributed. I was a Member in Congress

' f 4 d I know tha't in many occasions your leaders whoor years an ,

came to the Philippinefs: have not only expresseb their willlngness I

to help us push tArough the progress of the young Republic, but !

has actually contributed to .the present state of progress in

the Philippine's. I am very jlad that you have given me Lhis

opportuaity and whis ' to express to you the gratitude and undying

' appreciation of the people of my country. Thank you very much.''

speaker 3lair: ''committee Reportstu

. Clerk Selcke: Mr. Collins from the Comm4ttee on Executivey whfch' ' House Bills 1660, 1726, 1816 referredy reported tbe same backy

rand pursuant to Rule 23D the Bills were tabled. Mr. Collins from. ':

' the Commn'ttee on Executive from which House Joiat Resolutions 54,

. 55 and 68 were reported the same . . . xeturned the same pursuant' to Rule 235, the Resolutions were ordered tabled. Mr. Collias from

- - ' ' Exeèutive from which House Resolutions 325. 371, 388, 409,.429. '

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Speaker Blair: uNows jus t a momenty letgs get this situation straighteaed

out whith the TV people' again. They asked when I came'on the

. '. floor today if during the initial Roll Call for attendance they !'. ''

.coutd do what they're doing over there now. aud I gave Dick Kay

. ' '' the authorizatton Lo do that . . . ah . . . and . . . but that k

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. was lust during the initial Roll Call. Now . . . ah . . . whatever

. ' the Membership wants to do about this is fine with me. .1 suggest

. somebodyy you know: move to say that the TV people can be here oa' p . j

do what tbeyfre doing or that they not be per- ' l. the floor and tomftted to do that. I want it to be a collective Membership situation

. .' on the decisfon. ' Ah . . . Gentleman . . . Mr. Mana.'' '

Manni. HWe11y Mr. Speaker, I would move that the T.V. cameras be allowed

to be on the floor as long as the Speaker, in his judgment, feels

that tbeybre not . . . ah . . . it . . . in his inftnite wisdom and

.1 udgment .1'

Speaker Blair: ''The Gentleman from Dnion, Mr. Choate.''

' Cboate: ''Wel1, Mr. Speaker, the good Lord only knows that wedve got

; facilities that are going to be trying at the very most. ITNen

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vakious motions and pieces of legtslation are to be asued to be

' heard on the order of voting in this House. We ally collectively

and individually, know that às far as the regular Chamber's of the r

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' House were concerned; I don't think that the media was entitled !

' I' to go up and down the aisles. If we#re gotng to give them per-

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' missïon to go up and down the aisle while weRre in Session in

. tbese temporary Chamber's, 1 don't know why in the world we re-' strict them in the permanent faciltties that we have in the Capitol

''' ' building. I1m only going to say to the Membership that if you#re

: . going to open up to the televïsion people that they can traveli ...

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' up and down the atsle, then, certainty, every hember of the media,

' .' perfod, fs geing to have that same prerogative; and lnstead of

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. 7'. . being out of here in ewoyoor ,three or four weeks at the most, I'm. - . g j : .. J '-gotng to. today, spié: you a Merry chrlstman becaus e that s exactly .)

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- ' '.'how long wefll be here. 1 would think that we need to keep the

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'- ''' 'media restrfcted to the areas that are set . . . set asfde for . .' /

5'.'. ' 'éhem to use. ' If thev want to talk to a Member: that Member can

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' ê' - ff of the floor of thfs Body the same as they do where . . . ' '. . go o .

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'. . ' .u 7 when we'ré in our regular quarters; and we might have a little

' ''- ' bit more orderly operation of bustness as far as these temporary '.1 . .. . i ) . . '

. . .' . . p . .' , v. ' ': facilities are concerne #.. I wouldy tberaf ore. Mr . Speakery aîzgges-- '

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. .z..that the same rules that applied to the regular and permnnent quar-' ; .. e ; , . . ' '' . ! ' . q. t . l .. 1 : ! . .' ' . Nq a ' . #

.:' ters apply to the quarters that we re using at the present time.

' :-'ï# This ' tbe . . . thts . . .' the theatre or whatever it is of. f'u ' ' . * .

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. . . ) ' '' . 'Qï '/''the Centennial Buildtng; and I would suggest that the Membership .. .. 't .

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' speaker Blair: ''A11 right, the Gentleman's point ts well taken. Actually.'

r' 1 h for the Regular Sessfon and we are. . . the House ru es . . . a . . . ,' ! . .' ' 'in the Regular Session now, do provide uader Rule 56 that in . . . ;

ah . . . our meetings that TV cameras may be operated from the rear

Ibalcony only. We have provided space: as you a11 caa welt see .. '

for both the television and radto people to be right there in ' !' j!

tbe back, aad there's never been an arrangement, whereby, they

u1d while we're in Session, move up and dovn the aisles andCO >

take television . . . ah . . . and . . . so that is the way that

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' we will proceed to ooerate under the existfng House rules which

' do not provide for that particular situatioa. Ah . . . The Gentle-

man from Union, Mr. Choate/' '

Cboate: ''One further suggestion, Mr. Speaker, no longer than we have

been in tbese . . . the temporary quartersa there's been numerous

people going up and down the aisles passing literature that is

not necessarily germane to the activitfes being partaken of at the

House at this particular time.' I would suggest that those people

be fnformed that there fs mailboxes back here for tbe Membership,

, and as far as this literature that doesnft have anything to do wfth. k . ' '

y ' fwhat wè re deliberating at the time be put in the Menber: mailbox. .

' 'rather thàn trunning t' . . four or ftve guys running up and down .

. . the alsles'p'abs'ing out literature that is sèaething that we '. ., j'. might want to lo/k at next month.. I would suggest that e done

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Speaker Blair: ''1 think that pointfs well taken. A1l right, aay further

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- ' k Setcke: ''Ah Mr Collins from the Committee on Executive. cler . . . .

' ' . from whfch House Resolutions 325. 371, 388, 409, 429, 432. 466 and

. . 493 referred, returned the same back and pursuant to Rule 239, these '

' : Resolutfons 'were ordered tabled. Mr. Rose from Judfciary I to ..

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' , , which Senate Bills 254 and 255 were referred, reported the snmo ': ' )

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. ''; back.and pursuani 'to Rule 23D the.. . . the 3f11s vere ordered'' . r '

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. - . Speaker Blafr: Messages from the Senate. ' . . ' . . ' ' . . ' . clerk Selcke: HA message from tbe Senate by Mr. Fernandes, Secretary. '

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Mr. Speaker. I'm directed to fnform the House of Representatfves

' . .'. ' that the Senate has concurred with the Eouse tn the adoption of

' the follcving Preamble and Jofnt Resolutfon, House Jofnt Resolutlon

#24, concurred in by the Sehate october 16, 1973; Edward E. Fernandes,

. Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I#m directed to lnform the House of

Representatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in

the adoptfon of the following Preanb le and Jofnt Resolutiony House

Joint Resolution //26. concurred in by the Senate october 16,q . 19739 Edward E. Fernandes, Secretary. Mr. Speaker. Ifm dfrected

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. to inform the House of Representative that pursuant to the recommen-

dation of the' Governor, the Senate has adopted amendatory provisions!

. ' to a Bkzl o, the fozlowtng tstle in t:e adoptson to whtch z.m '

. instructed to ask 'the concurèence of the House. Senate Bill 374:

' action taken by the'senate October 16, 19739 Edward E. Fernandesy

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speaker Blair: nIntroductions and First Reading of House Billss''

Clerk Selcke: 'îHouse Bill 2051, Kelly et a1, amends the Illiaois

Municfpal Code. First Reading of the Bi11. House Biil 2052. Hanahan

. F. ' et a1y amends Publïc Act 78-120-195. First Reading of the ''

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''.Bi11. ' Hous e Btll 2053, Lundy et a1y the Illinois Citizen Informa-'

tion Assistance Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill . . .

S'..'.'. House Bi11 2054, Kosinski et a1, amends the Crimiaal Code. First .'. l J ' .. i . .. .

ê' juReading of the Bi11.' Hausé Bill 2055. Crafg et a1y appropriates. I

-.money for personal services. First Reading of the Bi11. House .

' '. Bill 2056. Rayson et a1, amends Crime Victims' Compensatfon Act.

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. Q'First Readiag of the Bill; 2057,'Rayson et a1y appropriates money

'.''k'' in the Court of Claims' Fund. First Reading of the Bi11.' House

' La 3ill 2058, Rayson et al, ameads Crime Victtms' Compensation Act.

:. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 2059. Rayson et a1, makes

! ' . 7. ' . . .. . J .' j .'' r. an appropkiation to Crlme iiccims' Compensation Act. First Reading . '. .

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,.. , .to charge additional interest on loans. Ffrst Reading of the.. : ' J, ' , , .'r 1 I '

' . . ' v. Bill. House Bfll 206, Griesheimer, increases interest rates. '. . ' ; . L

' . First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2062. Grtesheimery amends

. . .: Cfvil Practice Act. Fir<t Reading of the Bill. House Bill 2063,

' '..' Grieshefmerm amends the Vehicle Code. First Reading of the Bill.''

Spqaker Blair: ''Agreed Resolutionsen: :. '

Clerk Selcke: ''House Resolution 552, Stone et a1. House Risolution

556, J. J. Wolf. House Resolution 557, J. J. Wolf. House Resolution

558: McGrew et a1. House Resolution 559, Capparelli et a1. House

Resolution 560, Rayson et a1J'

,, ' fjSjeaker Blair: The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Nilliam Walsh.

Walsh, W.: HMr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, these

are the Agreed Resolutions; and House Resolution 552 sponsored

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by Representative Stone. conjratulates Ralph Carrol Hay of

Champaigns who.has retired as Professor of Agriculture . . . Agri- 1

cultural Engineering at the Vniversity of Illinois after 40 years1

kof service. House Resolution 556 salutes Scout Richard Szpila

for attaining the rank of Eagle Scout; and House Resolution 557

commends Scout Daniel Plantz for attaining the rank of Eagle Scout;

and House Resolutton 558 congratulates Miss Colleen Ann Metternicb'

. . . ah . . . who is a pianist and was reelected as one of- l

' ' the ten finalists of the Miss Illfnois Contest; and House Resolution

. , 559 by Representative Capparelli congratulates Scouts Kevia Bruce '

.Herricky Ronald J. Scalet and Richard A. Reinhart for attaining .

' ' ' the rank of Eagle Schouts. Rouse Resolution 560 by Representative '

>). Ravson congratulates recipients of the Illiaois Press Association .

. Award. Is that the' one vou wanted? I move the adoption of the . .. ' . . ' ' .

Agreed R:solutions. . .- .;. ' ' '.

speaker Blair: :''Any discussion? The question is on the adoption of .

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v (.j v o ,' . . the Agreed Resolutions. A11 those in favor say aye > oppose n ; .

' . .: 'the 'ayes' have it, and the Agreed Resolutfons are adopted.t. : ' ' ' . '

. ' ' ' j j ' -.! ' uGentleman from Cook, Mr. William Walsh. .. . .. . . '

Walsh. W.2 ''Mr. Speaker, I move that the Regular Session stand in .

. ' .recess until the hour of 2:30 pimv'for the purpose of a Republican

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' . Copf èrence to be held ix ediately in Room *212 .'' ' :

. Speaker Blàir: ''The Geùtleman from Cook . . . ah . . . Union, Mr/ ' .. : ' ' ' l '' '- . ç f, ' . ? ' . .$ '. ' . . choate. . - ' r . :. . , ... , . . .

- Choate: HMr. Speaker, I hope that at least the Democratic Members

- pay attention to tbis because I would lfke to ask for them to

' ' ' : meet in Conference in Room M5 . . . Room M5 immediately after

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.we recess here. That <f11 gfve you, ff you are punctual and on

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' time and all that jazz get there we'll get it over with you'll. > : . :

have plenty of time to have ,a lefsurely lunch before we come

back in Sessioa. Democrats smeet in M5J' i. !

Speaker Blair: ''M5 and the Republicans fn 212. and . . . ah . . . when

we . . . ah . . . we're adjourning the Regular now until 3:30 . . .''

Walsh. W.: ''We're recessinz . . . we're recessing the Regular until '' ;

2:30. was my understanding, Mr. Speaker.''

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Speaker Blair: ''A11 right. A11 right, the centleman from Cooky Mr. j-

William Walsh: amends that motion to provide that we*ll recess ' .

J the Regular until 3:30 or 3:15 . . . ah . . . now, weVll be coming

' back in here at 3 o'clock for the 3rd Special. Now, the 2nd Special'; . .

is at 3:45. A11 right, vebll . . . ce'll be back . . . ve'll be

' back here at 3 o'clock lnto a Special Sessiony Regular Sesston

' then at . . . ah . . . back here at 3:15 Republican Confer- 'recess >

ence in 2l2 and the Democratic Conference in M5. Al1 right, a11

those in favor of the Gentleman s motioa say aye , opposed no ;

the 'ayes' have it, and we'.are in recess. . Come to order the 2nd ='' .

' . ' ' ' Special Sessiony which is the new 2nd Specfa'l Sessionk The o1d

''' s ia1 Session '.j! i '. 2nd. Spe'cial Sesstoa was knocked out by . ' '

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. 5 the Governor's 3xd Special Session call; and so what would have ' ..'

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. ' ' been the e1d 3rd Special Session is now the new 2nd Special Sessfon.

. . Right, just listen to the Proclamation/' ' ' ' '. . . . r ' : ' .. . ' ' ' ' u . .

' Clerk Selcke: ''Are we ready to goy Mr. Speaker? Are we ready to Ro?H ' 'i' . ' c . ' . '' '''''' '' ' Speaker 3lair: Cxeah read the Froclamationo'' . .. . #

. . j . ' . ,Clerk Selcke: Cstate of Illinois, Seventy-eighth Ceneral Assemblyy '

Springfield, Iilinois. A Froclamatfon. 'Whereas. durina its

' . ' 1st Regular Session the Seventy-eighth General Assembly passed and .

- . ., sedt to the Governor legislation cutting the rate of Retaileri' .

.. - t '. Ocçupation Tax, the Service Occupation Taxy the Use Tax and the . 7 .

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'''' Service Pse Tax from 4 Z to 3%Z so that the taxpayers would enjoy ''

. a measure of well-deserved tax relief; andy whereas, the Governor .' chose to place an amendatory veto on the legislation, but in a

, manner which careful legal analysis suggest vio . . . suggests '

violates the constitutional authority of the executive; and. uhereas,

to act on that amendatory veto and perait the Governor to certify

hfs acceptance of legislative action would, in our opiniony result

in a lengthy period of litigation and ultimate judicial invalida- '

tion of an Act . . . of the Act; and, whereas, in th e end, the tax- 1, I

payers of Illinois will be needlessly denied tax relief; therefore.'

pursuant to Arefcle I7v Section 5 D of the Conseftutfon of the

State of Illinois in Chapter 63, Section 19l of tbe Illinofs Revised !i

' Statutes; we', W. Robert Blairy Speaker of the House of Represenatives !

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- and Williau C. Harris, President of the Senate, do, herebyy call

and convene a Special Sessioh of the Seventy-efghth General Assem-'

. k. b1y of the State of Illinois to commence on October 22, 1973.

at 3 p.m., central Daylight Saving Timey for the following purposey

to consider and enact legislation to reduce the rate of Retailer&'

occupation Taxes, Service Occupatiod Use Tax. the Use Tax, and

the Servfce Dse Tax . . . ah . . . occober l6a 1973, Springffeldy '

Illinois, %. Robert Blair, Spe:ker of th: House; Williau C. Harrisy

President of the Senate.'' '

' . Speaker Blair: ''A1l right, Mr. Walsh, moves that . . . ah . . . or asks

for leave to bave the Roll Call of the 1st Special Sessioa be the

. Roll Call of this 2nd Special Session. Is there leave? A11 righty'

' the Journal on the 2nd Special Session will se indicate. Resolu-. ' 1 . '

. . tions. . ' ' . . . :

Clerk Selcke: ''Rouse Resolution Ilk, 2nd Special Session, W. D. Walsh,' j . .; Resolved that the Clerk inform the Senate tbat a majority of

' ' j the Members of the House is assembled pursuaat to the Proclamation

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.' V of the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate con-

' ê 1 . vening a Special Sesslon of the Ceneral Assembly and are now ready

dor the transaccion of bustness'. uouse Resoluttoa //2, u. o. walsh

. , .. .' . . I ' 11 jtTs t raad rhem al! . . . f lLes tlla'ed clàa I 'L'he rules of1 .'

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. k' the House of Representatives of the Seventy-eighth General Assembly

. as alended be adopted as the rules of the 2nd Speclal Session . . .' ' ' 'ah . . . so far as the same may be . . . may be applicable and

Jthatthe Standing Comma'ttees'of the House of the Seventy-eighth

' Glneral Assembly and their Membership shall constitute the Staadtng i1' ' !

. Commqttees of the House during this 2nd Special Session'. House !

Resolution 143, 2nd Special Session, W. D. Walshy 'Resolved that'

. a Commaettee of five Members, no more than three from the majority: '.

party be appointed by the Speaker to approve the last day's Journal

and a11 Journals of the 2nd Special Session of the Seventy-eighth

ceneral Assemblyd/'

Speaker Blair: ''The Gentleaan from Cook, Mr. William Walsh/l

Walsh, W.: Gèfr. Speaker, these are the housekeeping Resolutions for !

the hfstortc 1st Special Session of the Legfslature called by

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'ir . ' session has begun. The second that the rules of the House of the 'h

Seventy-eighth General Assembly shall apply to the 2nd Special ''.:,

. Sessfon; and the third calls for the Speaker aad the Minority .

Leader to appoint five Members . . . ah . . . to approve the last

dayls Journal and a1l Journals of the 2nd Special Session of the

. F Seventy-eighth General Assembly; and I move the adoption of'

.. .. House aResolution 1 2 and 3.'6 '' . ' '. ' > ' '

Speaker Blair: '''AII right, is there discussion? Questioa is the adoption .'', ' t .. > ' . l '

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' , i . . a11 right, the question in on the adoption of House Reselutions

' : ' .: ':'1 2 and 3. à11 those in favor say îaye' opposed 'no'; the 'ayes'. .. . # ' #. .. ';. . . - . . . '

. '', . ., . Ahave it; and the Resol.utions' are adopted. s.ntroductions .''

' . clerk selcke: ifflntroduction. nouse Bill //1, 2nd Speciat Session,

' Schlickman et a1, amends the Retailers' occupation laxy Use Tax, , '. . . ' ' . '' * r . F ' J 6'

.V Service Occupation Tax and Service Use Tax Act. Ftrst Reading ' .'.'. .! J . .' ' Of the 3i11.'' ' ' . . . ' '

Speaker B1air:..''A11 rights no further ftems on the 2nd Special Session?. t . . ) . . -, .

' ' The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from Cook: Mr. Willïam Walsh/'. . . . .t ' .

. ' Wals%.'W.: ''Mr. Gpeaker, l msve thau thc lnd Sepclaî o/esuiun odjourn ''. .r k .. . . . ' .. . . . .

' ' ''.. . to.. the hour of 11:30 a.a. .tomorrov.'' ' ' ' ' ' '. . . . .:: , . .

;. t. . :.%v,. 4 . . . ' .: . . . . . -' t' : ' ?' ' $ . t ' . . ' ' '' '' Speaker Blair). I'AII riaht. ia the're discussion? Hearing none. al1 '

': . those in favor of the Geatleman's motion say 'aye' opposed 'ao';. . t ' . . . . *

. . nù < . . .. - ,- ' ,k.vthe Mayesî have ity and the znd'special Session is adjourned until ''

'the hour of 11:30 a.m. tomorrow. ' . ' ' .

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Hon. W. Robert Blair: ''A11 right wefre now back in the recessed re-

gular sesstoa. And. we#ll go to coasideration of motions with re-' . :

gards to the veto messages that are before us... al1 right, on the !' j' . j

order of total veto motions.... on the order of total veto motions, II

. it appears a motion With respect to Senate Bill 1198. Thatês on

page 7 on your Calendar. 'That's at tbe top of the page, on which

the Chair recognfzes the gentleman frow Cooky Mr. Phil Collins.

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b f. Nowz this is an important item, as are al1 iteus that come e ore

the assembly. There is golng to be a motion put here, so if we càn

. clear the aisles... and let's be in our seats. Let's clear the

' . aisles, and vould the doorkgepero... so that those persons not en-

'. , titled to the floor be removed there from... a11 rfght... now you

! . can't tell it, but the noise level ls very bad and your're not '

' . oing to be ableo t6 hear anybody who cares to address thenselves. g .

questionsy so could we... gentleman from Union Mr. Choate.. >

. ' Choate: 'tA point of ordery Mr. Speaker, and I would lfke for the '

. Membership to listea to me instead of carrytng on their little. 9. '' . '

. private conversations, because, and one of them's going on right in

front of me right here. When we were ïn our regular chaubers we

. ' ' could carry on the little private conversations and because of the I

acoustlcsy were abl: to %pt armcy wirh them, withou: tt beinq a

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complete hub-bub, and the Speaker, having aa extremely hard job to. i

'know what's going on. But those of us who de have a habtt of

' talkfng to each other, whfle the legislaefve busfness fs being 3. (

. . Ltransacted, I encourage you to do one thing. Take two minutes of

' . k' vour time and Ro up to the. Speaker's podium and listen to a1l of i

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' . these littlè private conversations going on, and you will find out

that this room is not condusive to the private conversattons being 1

set forth. I would therefore, Mr. Speaker/-, encourage the Member-

ship to give you the order tbat this House is eatitled to, se that !J

you can transact the business of State tn a legislative manner, and. 1

proceed with the thinzs that we were brought here to do. I would !

hope that the membership would give the Speaker and other Members

this courtesy.'' lI

Hon. W. Robert Blair: 1'Ah thank you, Mr. Choate. I think your remarks' ,

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are well taken. Al1 rightz now as I was indicating earlier for

those'of you who couldn't hear, we*re on total veto motions on

page 7 of the Calendar. Wherein appears a motion with respect to

Senate Bill 1198 on which the Chair recognizes the Gentteman from

cook, Mr. Phll Collinsz'

collinsk ''Ab thank you Mr. Speakery and ladies and gentlemen of the

House. I1d like to personally thank the Speaker and MinorftyN)

Leader for that call to orderilbecause I do believe that 1198 does

deal with one of the more importaat matters to come before this

Legislature, and this Session. Senate Bi11 1198, I'm sure I have to

tell no one. is the State Board of Elections. Now, we a11 know,

that a Billy under my sponsorshïps House Bill 212s passed thfs

House, went to the Senate and wa% stopped in the Senate Elections

' Commfttee. In an effort Lo work out a BI11, sa that ue could

comply with our Constitutional mandates, Senate Bill 1198 was creat-

'ed 4n a spirit of compromise by the Senate Elections Coumittee

aad came out sponsored unanimously by the members of the Senate

Elections Comaittee on b0th side: of the aisle. I am the first

one to admit that I'm not 100Z happy with this Bill: but who is

100Z happy with most Bills. I think that this Senate Bill 1198

'fs a meanlngful compromise and I would urge support of a11 the

Members of tbe House. Ild be happy to answer any questions of the

Membershfp, Mr. Speaker, and I would move that Senate B111 1198

pass, the veto of the Covernor to t:e contrary not withstanding-'f

Hon. W. Robekt Blair: HAII righty discussion?... A1l rigbt. There

seems to be a unanimous demànd for a roll call. So, Mr. Clerk.

proceed to call the roll, and the motion is shall House. Senate

Bill 1198 pass, the veto of tbe Governor to tbe contrary not

withstanding?''

Fredrlc B. Selcke: HAlsup. Anderson. Arnell. Barnes. Barry. Beatty.

Beaupre. Berman. Bluthardt. Borcbers. Boyle. Bradley. Brandt.

' Brinkmefer. Brummet. Calduell. Calvo. Campbell. Capparelll.

Capuzi. Carter. Catania. Chapman. Choate. Clabaugh. Colltns.

Cox. Craig. Cunningham. Oavis. Day. Deavers. Deuster. D1-

Prima. Douglas. Duff. Ralph Dunn. R. t. Dunne. Dyer. Ebbesen.

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Epton. Ewell. Fartey. Far'y. Fennessey. eleck. Fltnn. Fried-

Iand. Garmisa. Geo-Karis. cetty. Gibbs. Gtglio. Giorgi.

Griesheimer. Grotberg. Hanahan. Harpstrite. Hart. Hi1l.

Hirschfeld. Gene Hoffman. Ron Hoffmaa. Jfmmy Holloway. R. Holl-

oway. D. Hpulihan. J. Houlihaa. Hudson. Hunsicker. Huskey.

Hyde. Jacobs. Jaffe. Euil Jones. Dave Jones. Juckett. Katz.

Keller. Kelly. Kempiners. Kennedy. Kent. Klosak. Kosiaskf.-

2 K ''Kozubowski. Krause. Kriegsmà . rone....

Hon. W. Robert Blair: ''For what purpose does the gentlewan seek...' wefre on a roll cal1#... A11 righty accordfng to Roberts, as you

.know, you can't interupt a roll call unless its an emergency, so

eed H. proc .

Fredric B. Selcke: nKucharski. LaFleur. Lauer. Laurfno. Lechoefcz.

' 'Leinenwebet. temke. Leon. Lundxigan. Luady. Hacdorxald.. Ita' digakz

Mahar. Mann. Maragos. Martin. Matijevich. McAuliffe. McAvoy.

Mcclafn. Mccormfck. Mccourt. NcGah... McGrew. McLendon.

MeMnster. Mcpartltn. Merlo. Kenny Miller. Tom Miller. Molloy.

Mugalian. Murphy. Nardulli. Neff. North. Palmer. Fappas.' ' . .'î 'Patrick. Feters. Philip. Pierce. Polk. Porter. Randolph.' . ,r

Rayson.' Redmond. Rigney. Rose. Ryan. Sangmeister. Schisler.'. f.''schliclmnn. Schneider. Schoeberlein. Schraeder. Sevcik. Sharp.

shea. Shurtz. Timothy Simms. Ike Sims. Skinner. Soderstro..

springer. Stedeltn. Stiehl. Stone. Taylor. Telcser. Terzich.. . ' . '

Thompson. 'Tipsword. Iotten. 'uerk. VonBoeckmnn. Waddell.

Wall. R. Walsh. 'W. Walsh. Walters. Washburn. Washiagton.

Williams. J. J. Wolf. B. B. Wolfe. Yozrelt. Mr. Speakero..n

Hon. W. Robert Blafr: ''A11 rfght, Duff, aye... Ralph Duan, ayes...

xarpstritey aye... Gibbs, aye... Boylep aye... Mike Madlgan, aye...

Dave Jonesy aye... Brinkmeier, aye... any further votes?-... 0n

thfs quesefon there are l58 ayes and 4 nays and Senate Bi11 1198

is passed, the veto of the Governor not withstanding. A11 right.

on the order of amendatory veto motion appears a motion with re-

spect to House Bill 18... 'that's on page 7 at the bottom of your

I calendar, on which the Chair recognizes the gentleman from Cooky

Mr. Hyde.''

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Hyde: nThank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. House

Bi11 18 fs the mandatory death penalty; and I move to accept the

Governor's specific recommendation for change with respect to7

' House Bi11 18. Ah . . . The covernory in hfs amendatory veto, made j'

jseveral changes after two days of consultation with myself and his

f kl I state that these changes improve the Bill.staff; and, ran y,'

Deleted from those categories of murder, where the death penalty

is maadatory, were the elected official or candidate; and I agreed

to that because it is a very broad category. Also. the intentional. 7: ' 1

' alteration of distruction of communtty watery gas, et ceteray the

.' '. feeling was that you would ptck up any murderer . . . ah . . .. .J

. 'k r ' ' '. ; . .''' under the mass murderer provision; so it was a duplication. The

' ' ' contract killer, the trigger man is still subâect to the maadatory , ' I

''' death penalty; bêt n'ot the person who hixes' the trigger man. 1

' ' Eranklyy I was less enthustastic about this deletfon; but in

: . 1' the spirit of comprocisey I agreed.. Ah . . . The victim, who was '

. ,the witness in a trial or before Grand Jury, was deleted because. . ., a . . ' .'

. ' . . j' ' there may be no necessary connection be eveen that victim s murder '

, - and the fact that he is under subpoena; and lastly . . . not really. $ '. ' .

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. . lastly . . . ah . . . if the accused is already under ar ' .

,.j . . ': . .seltence of 11f e impristamrent , thar, >:'as removed because of a . '

' '. l.te chnical difficulty. I guejs there is no more sentence of lffe ';. .. ' :. . .. k

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imprlsonment under our Code. Left in, howevery which require ' l' . . . ' j

' .'t .' ' a pandatory death sentence, are the murder of an on-duty policemans i. ' ,j . . j

' E uor fireman, or a prison guard. The multiple murdered, murder .1' .: . '1 . .

r-fcommitted while hijacking an airplane or another public vehicles

z.. murder by the trigger man fn a hired killing, and murder in the

' ' '' f ' bbe kidnapping, arson or the' '. course o rape . . . rape. ro ryy'' ''' '' '' ,

' commlssion of indecent liberties wtth a child. Nowy Mr. Speakerp ,

tadies and Gentlemen of the House, the most significant change

made in the Bfll has to do witb the sentenclng provision. Under

the Bf11 as passed by the Bouse and the Senate, if a three-judg'e

panely whicb was convened immediately follogfng the jury's finding

. of guilty, if a majority of those judges found that the crime fit

within the categoriesy then the death sentence was manditorily im-

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. posed. Ah . . . The Governorls staff posed the problem presented '

. by our Illinots Constitutioa? whtch mandates the consideration of '

rehabilitation in sentencing; and we were in the ratber uaique

dilemmn of having the United States Supreme Court say no discre-

tion in sentencing. and the Illinois Coastftution requiring some

consideration of rehabilitation; and so to meet this problec, a

rather unfque solutfon was devfsed, wherebyy the death sentence

' is manditorily imposed; however, if the majortty of the tbree

judges flnds compelling reaso' ns for mercy. Now, this is' a higher. . . . . . .

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d d b lute discrètion capable of ab use and ft is more .stan ar on a so. . :

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. flexible. certainlvwthan the inflexible manditorv death senteace ' .' . . . . ' . .

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.' as originally required by the Bill. Now, there have been objec-

. : ' ' .. ' tions that this language is Vague and provides no staadards. I

. . )' . .? hava consulted with several authoritfess including the Ci:ief '

of the Attorney General's Crfmfnal Divlsfon . . . Crfcinal Justfce. . ' ) .. . .

. ') Division. and he agrees and concurs that this language does in- - '.

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' clude the traditional grounds for clemencyy whlch are a part

. . of our criminal jurisprudence; and so we have a unfque approach. . ' .. ' ' ' . .

. to the death penalty, where it is manditorily imposed for the '

' . ' ' ' most heinous or serious crime. Rowever, if an unusual situation '. . . . ' . :. .' ' ''

s>riseà where tradiuiouak gropnds for ckemency wohld exist. :he. 1; ' . ' ' - . *' '

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. $ u-.%' three judges have that power to grant clemencyy and . . . ah . . . -' ., ' A. . . . e ; ' . , '' .

.' '.:./ merc#. .and the criminal then' would be sentenced pursuant to the .: '!, . & . . . r . . - . . . . . . . .C

.code.a minimum of 1A years.' Thts is the middle ground between '.

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' 'total. disdretiony which the Supreme Court said is wrong as . . .# e .' .

' i. b itrs' capable of abuse and tron-clad faflexible pandatory '. . ecause , , .

- 2 sentencing, whiçh may be unconstitutional under our Illinois. z . . ' ' . ' .

, ' Constitution. ' Ah . . . Mr. Speakerp and Ladies and Gentlemea of

' the House, I move'that we accept the Governor's specific recommenda-. . .j . . '

tion with respect to Bouse Bill 18.f'

Speaker Blair: ''AïI righty the discussion . . . now, the Gentleman from ;' f? 'Cook: Mr. Mann.

èhnn: ''Wel1, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I want to urge the !

. Membershfpy although I fully recognfze that thfs fs not gofng to j

be a successful attempt on my part. nevertheless: for the Record: I 1

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do want to urge the Membership to vote 'no' on Mr. Hyde's motion.

I opposed Mr. Hyde's Bill in its original form, although I thought

it to be a very creative measure. and now that the Governor and

Mr. Hyde bave gotten together . ah . with regard to this

amendatory veto, I still think that the Legfslature is confronted

vith the,ultfmate question of whether or not ft's rfgbt for the

state to kill; and I would say that if it's vrong for anyone to

kill, it's wrong for the state to kill. Capital punishment is an

aberrationa itîs a throwback to the cave age' . . ah . . the

' Supreme Cpurt of the Unfted States has said that ft's cruel aad'

unuaual punqeàhment; and I thini that regardless of how you slice

ity tegardless of you you dress up capital punishmeat, it still

amounts to mandated killing by t:e state; is. thereforey morally .. . .' : . . . .

. - j -' z . ' . .wrong, and from Yhé standpoint of society; totally ineffective.

jy 'would point out to you t at a1l of the notorious assassinations

u took place in in states that already had capital punishment.

That didn't deter any killers from killing Martin Luther Kingy or. . l . ' ' ' ' . . :

' Bobby Kennedy or John F. Kennedy. They still proceeded with. 7 .

a' what they had.to do; and I would say that the one redeeming feature

of Ehis particular amendatory veto is that it probably would take

the ultimate question up to the Supreme Court. Tbat fsm is the .

'death penalty with definite sentences constitutional or unconsti-. .

' ' . .q .. Y tutional; and I'm predictiag that the Supreme Court wilt say that . .''

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. ) ' ./,. , fc is unconstitutional. I Vould hope tbat we would save the court

. . , . ythe burden of maklng tàat decfsfon; and I urge a 'ne vote herey

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, Speaker Blair: ê'The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. McAuliffe.''' : .

McAuliffe: l'I'd like to arise and ask for support for Mr. Ryde's motion.

As a former Chicago poliçemaa, and I have some experience wtt: the'

. crime that's going on in Chicago, and I know what it's like to go

out tbere, and a 1ot of these policemen are going out and getting

shot. Their wives are becoming widows.. I #ve gone to a number

of wakes this year, already, where the policemen were left there

in the coffin and the wives were there and the kids were there;

and nothing ever happens to these fellows that are doing the shoottng.

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.' Nows itfs about time that we put some fear of God lnto those people.; . .. . Let's stand up for the decent law-abidfng people of Chicagop who

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are getting shot every day, and letls put these fellows away where ij

they'can't do any more harm. These fellows go out on . . . on . . .

get sentenced to life in prison and theyfre out on the streets 10. :

' years or 12 years later and they go out and kill somebody again;

' and one way to' prevent this is to give them capital punishment,' : . '

and they won't be able to commlt the crime a second time. Life. . . . %; . . .

. . imprisonment no longer means life imprisoament. If there was such .

; . : .: a thina as life imprisonment, I'd be for that; but that doesn't '.

': ' 1 '' ha en any=ore. They get . tw they spend 10 years or 12 years '. k >. . PP .. . . : ' . ' , . f. ' .

-: . - ' q':tain jaii, they re back out oa the streets, and they re able to ') . . . t; ..; L ' . ' . ' '

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' ' L' policeman's vife a widow; and this is one way to stop that; and' . ;' ' . . . . '

' Q' '-i Mery strongly support this.'' . ' ' . '.. ). z . ' . ' . .' f k . . .. . . , . j j y

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Wolfe .B.: Thank you. Mr. Speaker. I have a point of parliamentary .; , : ! .. x . !; . . t . 1

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'-: inquf:y that I believe most of the Members on the floor of the .' ,

, ' .' House would like clarified under our voting procedure. Nowy

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. , . ,.' - . : ;' l certain provisions in there; f or example, my first inquiry is a I

' ' '- tfrecdrd vote means that to pass the motion wehneed 89 'aye' votes. l. . . ' r

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'.'a' motion does not get the 89 votes? What's the posture of the Bf11? .

. J p.rDoes it go back to the Governor or does ft stay at the Speaker's. .j , ag . . .J.. . ' .

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Speaker Blair: ''We11y I think that begs the question, actually. We?re' not there. and the Gentleman would be entitled if his motion were

. not carrying with the requirement to move for Postponed Consider-. !

ation . . . ah . . . of his motion; and when we get to thats you

' knce if that situation occur's why we can . . .n

Wolfe, B.: ''No, I think, Mr. Speaker, my question is really directed

to the posture of the voting that some of the Members would like

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to know before they cast an 'aye' or a 'nol vote; and that isy fs

it possible if the vote . . if the motion is not accepted for

the Btll .to be returned to the Governor and for him to accept the

Bill in its present condition without the amendatory language?

I mean, this is my real question. I think this came up in the

las't Session. It was never answeredy and some of us would really

z' Tlike' to know what the posture of that Bf11 would be if the motion

does not carry.n., Np

Speaker Blair: HWel1, Rule 48 provides in the second paragraph that *if

the Amendmen: fails to be adopted witbin 15 days after entry of 'q . . ,' .the objecttons to the Governor upon the House Journal, the Clerk

'm . j zï shall return the iill to the Governor'. Nowy in the instances where

hat' occurred in the last Session . ah . . to the best of.q

my recollection, there was no further action by the Governor with'respect to those itqms. As a practical mattery quite obviously,

the action of the House with regard to tbe specific recommendations' . ;; '., r ' ''

:of the Governor would not have, in any way, met the specific. :: t. ' ' )

d tions of the Governor. So there would be no way underrecommnn a' . F

' thatcircumstance tbat be could certify that the speciftc rec . '. .: I; .- that the House s actton conforms to the specific recommendations

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; . '. that lzn liad made . Ah suppose that be would have the c.ptior,j . : '

at that time to so sav. and then return the matter to the House' ; . y'i ' . . ' .' . 4.for lt to be reconsidered as a total veto.

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wolhe B.: ''Thank you-'',, ' ,,Speaker Btatr: Ah

. . . Mr. Borchers.

Borchers: ''Mr. Speaker, fellow Members of the Housey just two points

in support of this motfon. Number 1, when the Lindbergh baby was

kidnapped, and killed, and tbe Federal Congress passed laws in

the state in relation to kidnapping. I want have you recollect

that it and the death penalty was manditoryy it practically

ended the crfme of kidnapping in the Unfted States until after

World War 11 and the 'Sob Sisters' got ahold of us. Number 2, my

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seatmate over here from Lawrenceville ah . a year ago

in June, told me on that par'ticular morning of the kidnap, and mur-

der and rape, I believe, of a small girl in Lawrencevillep a neigh-

bor of hisy not over one or two blocks auay. Now, that girl was

horribly butchered. Iy personally, as a cfttzen of this state do

not believe that the man that did it has a right to continue

live. do not want my m'oney used, as far as I'm concernedy

to keep such a beast alive, and we have others, such as Speckp

who butchered eight. I do not think we should forget the girls

ànd think of Speck. I think we should think of the rights of

. Vbose girls that have been lost forever. The chfldren they'll.') : .'never havey the hdmes they'll never have as a result of hts brutal

murders; and, incfdentally, I want you to kaow that I've seea t%e:.

x .ictures 'of these girls y and '1 hesitate y I guess I 'd better notPy '7 .

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.say what.he did to bm wiile they were still alivey but one by

one he butchered them living; and I think it's a hell of a note

if we do not put such people where they can never do these things

, agaiay 1et alonç letting them within a short period of time get

'back out on the streets and be free in l0y l5> 20 years. I think

'' we sùould act now and do something about it.l'

Srcàker Blail ''Cantl emaa f rom Cook , Mr.. Pa/son, ''

Rayson: HMr. Speaker and Members of the Housey I think your explanations

to Mt. Wolfe's question can elucidate us here to suggest there

are reasoùs not to sustain this motion; ands therefore. not to

' sustain the amendatory veto, and that is the Governor can have a

chance to either veto this Bi11 in its totality or accept fts aad

. aécept it in a form which the tegislature appareatly wants becauseè'there were five Bills and thfs ène seems to head the list and

the people overwhelmingly supported these Bills; but I feel that

that's the best opportunity 'for either the Legislator who wishes

. to prevail or a full veto to prevail; and three reasons why thts

motion should not lie: and one is in counter to distinction of

the last Gentleman; and I think that if what he presees - . . pre-

supposes is truey then . ah . I think what he suggests fs

an illusion, and that no one of us can really realfze that any kind

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of mandito/y penalty ts a deterrant to murder; and sane people

aren't gaged by rations deterrant. That's number one. Number two,

the Supreme Court by two of the justices said Supreme . . . ah a .

cruel and unusual punishment is what capital punfshment is a11

about. Three of them said thaty as appliedy it's unconstitutional.

,Three dissenting Judges made interpretations to suggest a mandatory

measure might . . . might be consitutioaal. Thereforea I thfnk

it's in doubt even so; but thirdly, aad most importantly, and it's

a matte: we, in Illinois, have not addressed ourselves toy and

tbat is the Illinois Constitutioa, whtch says most emphatically' r

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that it's our duty to rehabilitate convicts; and how can we

' 'lé'eh'abflitate them if welre gotng to subject them to the deathJ( .

. .. . r.yenalty. .1 suggest we do not get the votes requieed for this. . 'xmotion .ffà f, j '

s eaker Bla' 'ir: ''Gentleman from Cook Mr. nuf f .'f. . p . y

1' 2i ' d G tlemen of the House . . . ah . . . it's very clearDuff: ta es an en

from previous votes and referenda and the opinion of this House' that capital vpunishmeat is desired by a large number of the

ypeople in'this state and in'this General Assembly. Neverthelessy

I would like to bring to tbe attention of the House some signifi-d :, .

cant prob'lelas in this 2i11 and in tllis amendatory veto. 5ow, I.,.j ;

.' did yote''for one of the capital puntshment Bills, which I believed. . .. t. . . $,' ' ' p

bë soliing a very dffffcplt constftutfonal problem durfng

$ the Spring Session. I voted against this Bill at that time because. : .' .

' .' thought it had severe conptitutioaal probtems with the estab-

, ': ,' jkl shmentlof a three-judge panel, one of whose meabers would be the

'. trial judge. Since the amendatory vetoy howevers the Bi11 is even

more compltcated and really self-defeating. I would draw to your

attention that the Governôrls amendatory veto says that 'Nobody

may be executed until there's an appealy until an appeal is heard

by the higher courts'. Now, practically speaklng, Ladies and

Gentlemen of the House, if there will never be an executton until

there's appeals who the hell is going to bring an appeal? Nobody's

going to take this up to a bigher court if it guarantees ne

execution. Secondly, while weRve already noted the fact that the

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- three judges were made fact finderss in effecty an additfonal

jury, which I suspect, constitutionally, we now have a situation

h ithout definition without guidelines and withoutW erep W y y

any statutory definition at alls the three-judge panel is asked

to say that a man may not be executed for compelling reasons.'

. whatever that is. girectly in controver . . . controvention to I!

the United States Supreme Court decisiony which said that there

. may not be discriminatory haphazard decisions on the part of juries,

aad I'm sure they were'the same . . . find the same thing on the I

part of three-judge panels. I further pofnt out to you that this ,: . . ' '

) amendatory veto significantly and substantfvely changes the Bfllp

. ' a procedure which previously.had beea found unconstitutional by '

' s pur Illinois Supreme Court in the instance of the parochi-aid Bflls; ' I. . . i

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' , and f inally I would point out to you tbael by allowing the discretto'a

' . which the Sponsor of the motions refers to . . . ah . . . on the

!' part of the three-ludge panel . . . ah . . . that he then says that .:

'clemency . . '. clemency fs ùow restored aad allowedê. Uetl, Ladfes

and Gentlemen of the Housey that s a total misdirection of tNe

. . . .constitutional and historical concept of clemencyy which has always rz . ' j

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been found in the Executive branch. No judge or no newly created

kind of panel which asy in effect, establisheu a Ii'eh level of '. . : . . ;

appellate jurisdiction within our state has the constitutional' . j' right to exercise the historic qualfty of clemency. This amenda-

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tory vetoy in my opinion, is the net result of the fact that Covernor. . . t

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' Walker campaigned against the death penalty, said he would veto' '

j' d h enalty Bi11 and is now realizing that e: people of !. any eat p ,. è

' 'Illinois want a death penalty Billy and he has given us, as a ' '

' Compromise an abomination/''

Speaker Blatr: ''Gentleman from Lake: Mr. Maragos, I'm sorry, Cook, I!

I was looking at Matijevfch and said Maragos.''

Maragos: ''Mr. . . . Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I move the

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speaker Blair: ''A11 right, the previous question has been moved. A11

those in favor say 'aye' opposed gno'; the 'ayes' have it the

previous question has been moved. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Hyde. to

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- Hyde: ''Thank you, Mr. speaker. Ladies and centlemen of the House.

' ' .. First of alls I'd like to briefly respond to some of the remarks

that were made. Ah . . . When you talk about the state killing

. people, capital punishment Bills usually emphasize the reverence

for the innocent life . . . ah . . . that was taken by the murderery

. 'the criminala and it seems to ne a great way to express that

' reverence for innocent life is by imposing the ultimate penalty '

. ' . .on one who comnits the ultimate crime. Secondly: I keep hearing

' '..- 'ifrom certatn Gentlemen of an ideological persuasiony somewhat to '

' . . . ' â . . . .Ltie left of my own, that the Supreme Court called capital punish- ' ' ' l

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, : no way referred tQo êapital punishment as cruel and uausual; an& . '; .

' -' p indeed, logically, it could not because the Constftution itself. .

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,. adverts to capital punishment when it talks about 'no person.? . .

; . ' may be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process' .

. ' . , ' 'of 1#w . It also talks about capital crime; and so to keep saying . jl

' that the courts said capital punishment is cruel and unusual is ' , ë. , ' .: ' ' , :

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''to betray the fact tbat you havenft read the opinion. Nowy as far.... . J .

. . . ; as the 'tenrteman f rork Elmanston or Wi.4 mette a e o recently called '. '' i .' '' .' i ' this Bill an abomination I think he' s paraphrasing his staf f -' . n .. :

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- . ' .! . ' . .' '' . .ïhe two insults I prefer more; but in any event 1et me say that ' '.'. . . ! l . . . y

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'. . . . . . . . . . ' ' . i. .. - r ,! . . , . . .. j. - : ' éember-that there is an automatic appeal every time the death 'i ' . . . . '

- * .1 ' P ' '' . tpenalty is imposed tn every capital case. Sop as I say, 1et them

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:vbe instructed in that . . . ah . . . in addition, as far as parochi- ''

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)'. aid is concerned . . ..ah . . . that opinion said that it was ''

j'rewriting the Bi11. This amendatory veto would in no way do that !

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Speaker Blafr: NAl1 right, Mr. Hyde, excuse me, Mr. Borchers says that

he wants to interrupt you. Why do you want to interrupt him?''

Borchers: HI want to . . . I want to interrupt for a simple reason. Iêd

lïke to hear what Mr. Hyde is sayfng; and I'm sittlng over there

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and I canlt hear a word becau' se of conversation, and I thiak what

11 ' ' ''e s saying makes good sense.

Speaker Blair: ''AII rfght. Proceed.'?

Hyde: 'lThank you, thank you; and thank you, Mr. Borchers. Lastly . . ah

. the comments about discretion, I agree that the Supreme

' Court did prèscrtbe discretion where it is arbitary; and I submit

the language compelling reasons for mercy is a higher standard than

arbitrary discretion. This Bill has the support of Jim Zagel, the. %)

Chief of the Attorney General's Criminal Justice Divipion, who

'' .ha: tried almost as many murder cases as my distinguisîed friend

nin t:e green jacket. I move that ve sustain the Governor's amenda-

tory veto. Thank you.''

Speaker Blair: HAl1 rigbty the the question fs, shall the Governor's'p .

. . specific reco'mmendation with regird to House Bill 18 . . ah . .lr'. ;l

. ' be adopted? For what purpose does Mr. Pierce arise?''

Pierce: HDoes' it violate our rules to . ah . . mention a Member's .

' ; ackqt in debate? I believe Representative llyde mentioned a. J

. j . l j jjMember s jacket over there. I couldn t hear what khat was about.

- Speaker Blair' : #!Ro11 Ca11.'?

Clerk Selcke: ''Alsup. Anderson. Arnell. Barnes. Barry. Beatty.

Beaupre. Berman. Bluthardt. Borcbqr.. Boyle. Bradley. Brandt.

m: Brinkmeïer. Brlm=et. Caldwell. Calvo. Campbell. Capparellï.

J Capuàt. Carter. Catania. Chapman. Choate. Clabaugh. Collins.':'* Cox.' Craig. cunniagham. Davis. Day. Deavers. Deuster. Diprima.

Douglas. guff. Dunn. R. L. Dunne. Dyer. Ebbesen. Epton. .

Ewell. Earley. Fary. Fennessey. Fleck. Fltnn. Friedland. r

.1 Garaisa. 'Geo-Karis. Cetty. Gibbs. Giglio. Giorgi. Grfesheimer.. ; .

.k '. Crotberg. Banahan. Harpstrite. Eart. Bi11. Rirschfeld. Gene

Hoffman. Ron Hoffman. J. Holloway. R. Holloway. D. Houlihan.

Houlihan. Hudson. Hunsicker. Huskey. Hyde. Jacobs. Jaffe.

Emil Jones. Dave Jones Juckett. Katz. Keller. Kelly. Kempiners.

Kennedy. Kent. Klosak. Kosinski. Kozubowskt. Krause. Kriegsman.

Krone. Kucharskf. LaFleur.' Lauer. Laurfno. Lechowfcz. Leinenwebe .

Lemke. Leon. tondrigan. Lundy. èlacdonald. Madigan. Mahar.

Mann. Maragos. Martin. Matfjevfch. McAulfffe. NcAvoy. Mcclain.

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JMccormick. Mccourt. McGah. Mccrew. McLendon. McMaster.

Mcpartlin. Merlo. Kenny Miller. Tom Miller. Molloy. Mugalian.' ' Murphy. Nardulli. Nardulli. Neff. Northe' Palmer. Pappas.

' P trtck Péters. Philip. Pierce. Polk. Porter. Randolph. 1. . a .' ri

Rayson. Redmond. Rigney. Rose. Ryan. Sangmefster. Schfsler.

.' Schlickman. Schneider. Schoeberlein. Schraeder. Sevcik.

Sharp. Shea. Shurtz. Timothy Sims. Ike Sfmms. Skinner. C,'

' '. Soderstrom. Springer. Stebelin. Stiehl. Stone. Taylor. Telcser.

' t ''Terzich. Thoapson. Tipsword. Totten. luerk. VonBoeckman. . '

j. ' ' ' ''Waddell. Wall. R. Walsh.. W. Walsh. Walters. Washburn. Washingto .

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. is A ' ' . N tl.t ' ' k :1 ' . '. . : n0.. Or aye .. . . 0 ay . . . . .' Speaker Blair: ''on tbis question there are 128 'ayes' 37 'nays'; and ' ' '. . . >

' ' ' . - 'the specific re'commendations of the Governor with respect to House '

''. . Bill 18 are adopted. A11 right, on the Calendar on Amendatory' . !' Veto Motions appears a motion with respect to House B111 1491 that's. . :

; 2 . ' .. . on page 8. on which the Chair recognizes the Gentlemaa from

Day: HMr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housea House Bill 1491 '

: ' would establish a Civic Center Authority for the City of Peoria. I. J '' ' ' ' :'', The. Governo'e. 1 a anendato ky v e Lo delEate a somf- laaguage ia the ''

- j - ' '- - t . E ) . . . : . . . ..t . . r, ' :, - ' ' v ' J '' L present Civic Center Support Actv whichy in effect. broadened the' . z ! ; v . - - - - ' !

.' .f èoveeage and the support provisions. Covernor felt that this would .

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'. . pot be good policy, and it does not matertally affect the Bill !' l 1.L! 'i ' '

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. ' '.' itself; and I would move at.this ttme to accept the covernor's

- '1 'Csspeciftc recommendation for change with respect to House Bill I. . . . . , ( , '.> q . . .

- ...1491; and I would appreciate your support.''. ' ' . ' '

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Speaker Blair: HAII rfghty the Gentleman from Cooky Mr. B. B. Wolfe.''. ' !. . . . .. y. jr ',, ' ,. Vo1 e, B.; Ah . . . We re under the 1970 Constitutfona Mr. Speakers

and again on amendatory vetoes: and I lust would ltke to make !.

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a point to the Speaker and to his Parltamentarfan in conaectionI

with the procedure to adopt what the Governor has recommended.

Nowy thfs Body is the only Body, the General Assemblyy that canI

pass laws in this state, the Senate and the House. When the Gov- !

dernor sen s a message of recoumendation to this House on amending a

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Bill that he sends back, i tlwould seem to me that the motion should

incorporate either the language of the Governor or substantially

tbe same language in an amendatory fashion so that Bill caa

be amended consistent with iis recommendationy and then the Con-

stitution says that that Bill if it receives a record vote, goes

back to the Governor ah goes back to the Governor

so that he can decide whether what we did in the House, as a

Legislative Body, conforms to his specific recoamendations; and

then the Bill shall become 1aw .H

' Speaker Blair: DSo far so goodo'f

w lfe zs that rtght Jr J'O p

Speaker Blair: HSo far so good.''JWolfe, B.: ''. A1l righty now, is what we are doing now consistent

Awith tbis constitutional dkrection msd our resqoasibfxlitqr .'as a

' Lesiglattve Body?''

Speaker Blair:: HYes to b0th questions/îz . :

Wolfe B.: ''Thank youg''

Speaker Blair: NAII righty is there any further discussion? A11 righty

àthe question lisy shall the House adopt the Amendment wfth respect

to House Bill 1491? A11 those in favor will vote êaye' aud the

g tj $- 4 i,OPPOSe no .

Clerk Selcke: î'Alsup. Anderson. Arnell. Barnes. Barry. Beatty.' . .')

Beau/re. Is he here'or notf I wished be'd answer. Bevmnn.. ' . . .:

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Speaker Blair: nClerk, the Clerk's not able to hear the votes/'! - . *

Clerk Selcke: HBorcbers. Boyle. Bradley. Brandt. Brinkmeier.

Brxamet. Caldvell. Calvo. Campbell. Capparelli. Capuzi.

' Carter. Catania. Chapman. Choate. Clabaugh. Collins. Cox.

Crafg. Cunnfngham. Davis. Day. Deavers. Deuster. Diprima.

Douglas. Duff. Ralph Dunn. R. L. Dunne. Dyer. Ebbesen. Epton.

Ewell. Farley. Fary. Fennessey. Fleck. Flinn. Friedland.

Carmisa- Geo-karfs. Getty. Gibbs. Giglio. Giorgi. Criesheimer.

Grotberg. Hanahan. Harpstrite. Hart. Hil1. Hirschfeld. Gene

Hoffman. Ron Hoffman. Jimmy Holloway. R. Holloway. D. Houlihan.

J. Houlihan. Hudson. Hunsicker. Huskey. Hyde. Jacobs. Jaffe.

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Enil Jones. Dave Jones. Juckett. Katz. Keller. Kelly.

Kempiners. Kennedy. Kent. Kent. Klosak. Kosinski. Kozubowski.

Krause. Kriegsman. Kucharsii. LaFleur. Lauer. Laurino.

Lechowicz. Lefnenweber. Lemke. teon. Londrigan. Lundy.

Macdonald. Madigan. Mahar. Mana. Maragos. Martin. Martia.

Matijevich. McAuliffe. McAvoy. Mcclain. Mccormick. Mccourt.

McGah. McGrew. McLendon. McMaster. Mcpartlin. Merlo. Kenny

Miller. Tom Miller. Molloy. Mugalian. Murphy. Neff. Nardulli.

Horth. Palmer. Pappas. Fatrick. Peters. Philip. Pierce. Polk.

Porter. Randolph. Krone. Krone. Rayson. Redmond. Rigney.

. Rose. Ryan. Sangmeister. 'Schisler. Schlickman. Schneider.

' Schoeberlein. Schraeder. Sevcik. Sharp. Shea. Shea. Timothy

Simmn. Ike Sims. Skinner. Soderstrom. Springer. Stedelin.v x s '

Stiehl. Stoae. Taylor. Ielcser. Terziuh. Thompson. Tipsword.

Totten. Tuerk. VonBoeckmnn. Waddell. Wa11). R. Walsh. W.

Walsh. Walters. Washburn. ) Washington. Williams. J. J. Wolf.

B. B.' Wolfe. Yourell. Shurtz. Mr. Speaker.êê

Speaker Blair: Hcolltns laye'. Krone 'ayeê. Getty îaye'. Mcpartlin

'aye'. Dfprfma 'aye'. Noreh 'aye'. Kenr 'aye'. kell, have

George take them down. Dunn, Ralph Duan eayeî. Are there any: ' 1 ' '

further vetoes? Tim Sïmm.q baye'. Ray Evell 'aye'. 0h, Patrick

'ayef. Rigney 'ayel? Rigney 'aye'. Ben Pelk 'aye'. Polk.

A11 tighty do we bave a vote? 0n this question there are 152

'ayes': no 'naysl; and the Amendment is adopted with respect to

House Bill 1491. Under Anendatory Veto Motionsy the motioa with

respect to House Bill 1436. page 8. The Cbair recognizes the Gentle-

man from Winnebago, Representaive Giorgi.ê'

Giorgi: ''Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I move to accept the

Governor's specific recommendation for change with respect to House'

Bill 1436 in the matter and form as follows: Tbe words 'using'.. .

use the word 'sballt, inserting in lieu of therefore. the

word 'may'. What this Bill does is it allows cities, and counties

and townships to use their revenue sharing funds for community action

agencfes that they care to. I move for the adoption of the aotion;

and 1611 accept the last unanimous Roll Ca1lJ'

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speaker Blair: I'AII right, the Gentleman from Willy Mr. Kempinerso'e

Kempiners. Will the Geatleman yield to a question?''l

Giorgi: ''Yes, Bi1l.H

4, , : IRempfners: What s the practical effect of the Governor s amendatory

veto on this?f'

Giorgi: HWe11, tbe Bill mandated 'that tbey use their monies for:

community actioa agencies. Xhis . . it allows them to . . ah

. they can . they can use their own discretion/'

Kempiners: Hls this just the state money? It does nothing to the' language which permits local units of governnent to contribute

their money? Is that left intact?''' ee ' 1.Giorgi: There is no monies in . no monfes fnolved at all.

Kemptners: ''No, what I'm asking is that the language of the Bill as the

. Legislature adopted it> was that the it would permit units

'of local government to contvibute revenue sharing funds to local

C.A.A.'S, is that left intact?''

cforgl: ''Yes yes, BIII.''

Kempiners: ''Okay, thank you-f'' :

Giorgi: ''1:11 accept the last uninimous Roll Calls Mr. Speaker.''

Speaker Blair: ''Is there discussion about tbe matter further? A11 right,.è .

now , ''leu ' s ktave a 11t 7le attenu-icrt. 'rhe Gentleman has aslçed :

leave now with respect to his motton concerning the Governor's speci-:

ftc recommendations with respect to House Bill 1436, be's asked

for leave for the last unanimous Roll Call. A11 righta that

leave's been given, and the Amendment whfth respect to Rouse Bill

1436 is adopted. Now. 1471. The Gentleman from Lakey Mr. Giorgi.''

Giorgii R'n ank you, Mr. Speaker. , Mr. Speaker, I Rove to accept the

Governor' s specif ic reco= eitdation f or change with respect to

Eouse Bill 1471 in the matter and f orm as follows: There was aa

. j , rerror in the date irl the Bi 1. We delate September 9th and insert1

in lieu. thereof, 'November 4th'. This ls the rnemployment Com-. !

pensation Bill, and because of that techntcal error, had the

Bi11 gone like it . lie? it came out of the House, it would

have suspended payments from September to Kovember. Thts cures that

so that the . . no payments are suspended. I move for the .

GEN ERAL A SSEM BLYsT A.T E o F l L L 1 N o l 5.

HOUSE OF REPNESEENTAYIVES

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V s k ' Blair: ''Discusston? The - . the centleman's 'pea er

asked leave for the . . .'' i

Giorgi: ''tast unanimous Roll Ca11.N

Speaker Blair: last unanimous Roll Call wfth respect to the

motfon of House Aill 1471. ls there leave? All rfght, hearing

no Objection, then the last unanimous Roll Call shall be used with

respect to the motion on House Bill 14719 and the Amendment is

adopted. Now, 14 . . . 412. 1'm on the same page there. The

Gentleman from Rock Islandy Mr. Pappas.''

Pappas: ''Mr. speakery and tadies and centlemen of t:e Housep as lntro-

' duced and passed in the House, House Bill 4l2 was designed to ex-t . .

' '' t,' empt personally owned pickups and like trucks having a gross wefght

) . . . k' . '. . ' 'i . . ' .' ' ' '' or less than g,ooo'pounds frqn the extsting requirement 'tbat Athe

' .! ' : ' .'.c . ùvner's name andladdress be displayed on b0th sides of t:e ve:icleo'' nj .i . . . . . .

. ' 2 ' : 1 . . '- ' ' ' . ' ' Ah It assed the House that wayy and tn the Senate t:ey wanted. . . . . p' . - è. . è . .

' '' ' ' nVe sure that the commercial vehicles were not exempt and they.. to m

put an Amendment on whichy unfortunâtelyy had a technical deficiency

': thàt; and . . ah . it's actual effect was to require: . . .

. ' the dïsplay of names and addkesses only on vehicles over 8.000 pounds

. t ' . !' ' : i ' '' :' ' o'perated for personal use. Ab . . . The covernor's specific recon-. . iJ . . . . . . .

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,' -' mendation for c-gange to House Bill 412 corrects this so that it

- . î. $ : ' '. . '' . . fs strictly only for personal use, for personal vehfcles of under

. 1 1$ = ' $ - & .' % . '. . . fr . . .r , . .. . . . k . ..S .7 8 000 pounbs. I'would move. for the acceptance and for the last ''.. k.5 ,

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'i'mption? A11 rigbt, 'the centleman's asked leave for the last. t . ( Y .: ' .. '. .' unanimoug Roll Call wit: respect to the motion to accept the speci-

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.fic recommendations of the Governor with respect to Rouse Bill 412.

:Does the Gentleman have leake? A1l right. hearing ao objections

tben the Centleman has leave to use the last uaanimous Roll Callp

and that will . . . it will 'be so recorded; and the Amendments are

adopted with respect to House Bill 412. 122? The Centleman from

cook, Mr. Maragos/'

Maragos: 'Mr. Speaker and Members of the Housey I move at this time

to adopt the Amendaent of the Governor to House Bill 122. which are iI 'i

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. Amendmenca vhich were approved by the oepartment of Public Health

and the optometrists, who arè involved with this partfcular situa-J ,

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. ,tion. What this doesy it takes the words prescrfbing physïcian

and instead . . . and it takes them out and puts in 'a manufacturfng'

! 4 4opticfan-, sand then deletes the words or optometrist and puts

after that 'to certify the words in writing'. There might be

some question about this languagey but we can amend this later

on fn the Spring Sessfon if ue have to; but fn order to keep the. .

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Bill and have it passed to protect the safetv and welfare of our'

. . people. I move the adoption of the Xmeadment. and also to . . . for' ! . 4 .

' ' ' t:e last unanimous Roll Call tbat we had earlier todavw'' - '' .

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speaker Blair: nIs tbere discussion?'' . .

' Maragos: 761 would like to have the last unanimous Roll Catl . . .I''

'' i hi the Gentleman's asked leave to use the last. Sp eaker Blair: . A11 r g , .

' ' unanimous Roll Call. Is there leave? A11 rfghty hearfng no .

' . objection: then tbe Amendment is adopted . . . ah . . . with respect

. ' . to the specific recommendatton of tbe Governor concerning House

' .Bi11 122. House Bill 311, the motion with respect to that amend-

' atory veto; the Chatr recoghizes the Geatleman from Lake . . . or

from McHearv. Mr. Hanahane:

' ' k Hanahan: ''Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. House Bilt 311 was a. . .

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' . r .' strike-breaker Bill A very important B111 to the workfng men. :

. '. ' k and women of Illlnois. In ihe last waittng hours of the Session

.' .Ehe Senate amended the strike-breaker Bill to prohibit picketeers. !

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' 'This àmmndment was placed on anainst the wishes of mvself. as the

' ' House Sponsor, evea though I did move to consider the Amendment

. ' ' with the view that the Governor may amendatorily veto. I recommended

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. ù letter 'to the covernor an amendatory veto to remove aa aspecty'

jof the Bill that did not fit within the purvfev of the strïke-

breaker ban. The strike-breaker ban is needed by working men andi

women in Illinots; and I move to concur with the amendatory veto

of the Governor. I'd like to move for the last unanimous Roll i. j

Call kf . . . ah . . . there' is no oblection.'' !

speaker Blair: HYou didn't quite get there, so I guess . . .H'

Hanahan: 'lobjeetionsl.have been hèard-'l

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Speaker Blair: l'Yeah, I've heard some objections. The Centlemaa from

Peoria, Mr. Tuerk/î

Tuerk) 1'Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I$m sorry, Representative

Hanahan, when House Bill 311 left the House, tell us once more1

what the Senate dfd and vhy the aaendatory veto.''

Hanahan: HThe Senate placed on a Bill in Amendment that would prohibit

picketeering; and actually tbe word epicketeering' isn't even

in the dictionary. We havenat even figure out the concept of it.

It had nothing to do with strikebreaking. Ficketeeringy in some

people's viewpoint, had nothing to do with a plant that would

be under a strike situation where outside people, professional'

ptcket . professtonal strtkeb'reakers were gofng to be employed

in an areq that has a labor dispute. This was the intent of the'

1 islation. This is what the bill calleb for, but . . and wheneg

it left the Houses this is wbat it provided. Over in the Senatey

an Amendment was placed on t'hat had nothing to do with the concept

of anti-strikebreakers, anti-professional strikebreakers; and

they placed on an Amendment tbat probibtted professional ptcketeering,

and nobody really has come ùp with the answer to exactly what the

purviews were, and it would Anterfere with the logic of thei .

Heuse 5fl1 311, as I fntroduced it, and as the concept of what

we were after in introducing a ban on professional strikebreakersv'ê

Tuerk: ''We11, did the amendatory veto then stike the Rpicketerring' word?

Is that what you're saying?''

Hanahan: NRight. Al1 . . . al1 the amendatory veto did was strike

the Section that was added on concerning itself with picketeering.''

Speaker Blair: NAII right: any further discussion? The Gentleman care

to closeo''

Hanahan : HJust that I1d like to have a favorable vote. This is a!

Very important issue for woFking men and women in Illinois. '

a long time coming. Most of the ctties ia Illinois have a professioa-

al picket . ah . . ban on professional strikebreakers; and

I'd just like to bring the rest of the state into line with city

ordinances of many of the cities in the State of Illinois. I move

for concurrrence wfth the amendatory veto.''

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Speaker Blair: 1:111 right. The Clerk will take tbe Roll. No, we got

to take one. Yeahm a11 rlqitp'' E' ' -'- . !

Clerk Selcke: HAlsup. Anderson. ) Arnell. Barnes. Barry. Beatty. ' ;'

Berman. Bluthardt. Borchers. Boyle. Bradley. Brandt.Beaupre.

Brfnkmeier. Brummet. Caldcell. Calvo. Campbell. Capparelli.

Capuzi. Carter. Catania. Chapman. Choate. Clabaugh. Collins.

Cox. Craig. Cunningham. Davis. Day. geavers. Deuster.

What did be say? Deuster. Diprima. Douglas. Duff. Ralph Dunn.1

R. L. Dunne. Dyer. Ebbesen. Epton. Ewell. Farley. Fary.

Fennessey. Fleck. Flinn. Frfedland. Garmïsa. Geo-Karls.

Getty. Cibbs. Giglio. Giorgi. Criesheiuer. Grotberg. Eanahan.

Harpstrite. Hart. Hi11. Hirschfeld. Gene Hoffmaa. Ron Eoffman.

Jimmy Holloway. R. Holloway. D. Houlihan. J. Houlihan. Hudson. .

Hunsicker. Huskey.' Hyde. Jacobs. Jaffe. Emil Joneé. Dave

' Jones. Juckett. Katz. Keller. Kelly. Kempiners. Kennedy. '

Kent. Klosak. Kosinski. Kozubowski. Krause. Kriegsman. Krone.

Kucharski. LaFleur. Lauer. Laurino. Lechowicz. Leinenweber.

temke. Leon. tondrigan. .Lundy. Macdonald. Madigan. Mahar.

Mann/u'Maragos. Martin. Matijevich. McAuliffe. McAvoy. Mcclain.

Mccormick. Mccourt. McGah. McGrew. Mctendon. McMaster.

Mcpartlin. Merlo. Kenny Miller. Tom,Miller. Molloy. Mugalian- '

. Murphy. Xardulli. Neff. Nortb. Pâlmer. Pappas. Patrick.

Peters. Philip. Pierce. èolk. Porter., Randolph. Rayson.

Redmond. Reigney. Rose. Ryan. Sangmefster. Schisler. Schliclmnn.

Schnèfder. ' Schoeberlein. Schraeder.' Sevcik. Sharp. Shea. ' '

Shurtz. Timothy Simmu. Ikù Sims. Skinner. Soderstrom. Springer.' . t '

Stedelin. Stfehl. Stone. Taylor. Telcsek. Terzfch. Thompson.

' Tipsword. Totten. Tuerk. . VonBoeckmnn. Waddell. Wall. R. Walsh.

W. Malsh. Walters. Washburn. Washington. Willimmq. J. J. Wolf.

B. B. Wolfe. Yourell. Mr. Speaker.''

speaker Telcser: ''Record Represéntative Barry as voting êaye' Fred.''

clerk Selcke: DWe took you off nov, you vaneed to vote 'nee.''

Speaker Telcser: HOn this question there are 148 eayes' 2 'nays'; and

tbe House adopts the Goveraor's amendatory veto with respect to

House Bill 311. Are there any other motions which the Members wishI

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to put today with respect to the amendatory veto motions. If there

are, would you please come up to the Speaker's podium so we can

attend to those matters as soon as possible. Okayy Introductions

of First Reading.''

Clerk Selcke: HHouse Bill 2058, Shea et al, amends the Election Code.

First Reading of the Bi11. House Bi11 2064. Shea et aly add

Section to the Election Code. First Readfng of the Bi11. House

Bill 2065. LaFleur et a1, amènds the Interest Act. Fir:t Reading

of the Bi11.1'

Speaker Telcser: ''Agreed Resolutions. Agreed Resolutions. The Gentle-

man from Cook, Representative William Walshs with an Agreed Resolu-

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Clerk Selcke: NHouse Resolution 567, Choate et a1. 'Whereas, on the

twehty-second day.of October. in the Year of 0ur Lord, Niaeteen

Hundred and T%irty, an event occurred ln the Cfty of Clarksburg.

West Virginia, that would years later affect the polftics and

government of a state hundreds of miles to the west; and, whereas,

on that momentous dayy a bouncing little baby boy ftrst opened his

eyes to tbe world and was heard by a11 those present to cry . . -n

Speaker Telcser: ''The Gentleman from Uniony Representative Choate, for

1 lihaL purpose do you ariue, Sirl''l. choate: ''Mr. speaker/l would ask you to get order in tbe House and I

would ask tbe Membership. Tomy I would ask the Membership to re-

frain from our visitiag for just a second while this Resolution's

being read, and I would ask 'the Clerk to start over the Resolution

so that they can hear the opeùing of this well, thought-out Resolu-

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Clerk Selcke: ''House Resolutipn 567: Choate-Murphy et al, 'Whereas,

on the twenty-second day of October in the Year of Our Lordm Nineteen

Hundred apd Thirty, an event occurred in the City of Clarksburg,

West Virginia, that would years later 'affect the politics and

government of a state hundreds of mfles to the west; and, whereas#i

on that momentous day, a bouncing little baby boy first opened

his eyes to the world, and was heard by those present to cry

something that sound like 'AII rfght', a phrase he used hundreds

GENER AL ASSEM BLY5 T'A T E' o F l L L l N Q r s

Houst DF REPRESEHTAD MtS

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of times in future years to start momentous occasion in Sprtngfieldy

.' Illinofs; ands whereas, things did, indeeda begin to turn out #a11!

right' for this outstanding young lad from the hïll countryy whoIgave a fine accounting of htmself in every eadeavor . . . fn !

' every endeavor he cbose to pursue; and, whereasy the State of

Nest Virginia was graced witb the presence of a future Illinois

political leader until his gèaduatton from West firgfnia Universtty

in 1954, when he received a Doçtor of Law Degree; andy whereasy' . n)

this outstandinc future leade' r served his countrg with pride and

accomplishment for two years following his graduytion from 1aw

schooly whea he entered the Pnited State Atr Force and served as

a Judge Advocate in the Military Courts; and. whereas. in 1956,

West Virginia's loss became tlllinols' gain when this young southern

. gentleman' settled ih the Will County, Illinoisy yfter accepting

a position with the Legal Department of Swift and Company of Chicago;' '

and, whereas, this accomplished young attorney soon distinguished

. himself in business by being'named Special Assïstant to the Presi- '

'dent of Swift and Company; and, whereass tbis nev Illinois citizen

' honored the City of Fark Forest in 1957, when he decided to make' j

. ''. that communfty his permanent home much to the pleasure of those who

uere to have the good fortune to be served by this future tesislator; .

- !and. whereas. this adopted son of Park Forest continues to make '.

great personal and b usiness accomplishments, establishfng hfmself

as an attornev and becomfnz the President of the Fairfax Realitv

. Company; ands whereas, when his part sought a blue-ribbon slate

of candidates for the Illinots House of Representatives fn 1964.' i

' W. Robert Blair's name was in the forefront of those selected forï

. the inclusion on the state-vide îbed-sheet' ballot; and. whereas,'

W. Robert Blair was elected to the Illfnofs Hous e of Representatives '. lin 1964 and has been reelected four tfmes since by the people of '

hts district; aad, whereas, fn 1971, after only tbree terms of

. service in the Housey W. Robert Blair's fellow Republicans selected

him as their Leader; and he was: subsequentlym elected to one of

the highest offices in Illinois State covernment, Speaker of the

Illinois House of Representatives; and, whereasy following a minor

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disagreement at the beginnipg of the 78th General Asseybly: the

' Members of this House chose to, again, elect the Honorable W.

' Robert Blair to a second term as the presiding officer of this

great deliberatlve Body; andy whereas, Mewbers of tbis Rouse are. l

greatful to the Speaker's work to provide office space and secre- !.

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' tarfal asstftance to every Member for the ffrst time fn the hïstory

of this Body; and, whereasm the Speaker has the gratitude of a11 (lMembers of this House and of a11 the people of the State of

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' Illinois for his contributions to State Government; be 1t. therefore,

' . l' resolved by the House of Aepresentatlves of the Seventy-eighth Gen- I

' eral Assembly of the State .of Illfnofs that Menbers of thfs

House loin ia extending heartiest congratulations and best wishes 'j. !

' . on the occasion of the 43rd Birthday of Speaker W- Robert Blair; and

' be it further resdlved, that t%e Members of this House noting that J-

, !the Speaker acting with the President of the Senate used the '

pt-ers of ' our new State Constitutioa for the ff rst tfme to call '

' S ectal Session to cortvene oa this 22nd day of October. 1973. 1ëa P

' do, hereby; symbolically add a birthday tribute to our Speaker to

. the order of business of tbis Session; and be it further resolved ' :

. that a suitable copy of this Preamble and Resolution be presented

to *he Speaker#v'' . ' j.

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Speaker lelcser: ;he Gentlemaa from Vaionx Mr. oa e.

choate: ''We11, first, Mr. Speaier, and Ladtes and Gentlemen of the

. House, I'd like to . . . as . . . from one southern gentlèmaa ta !

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another one, I1d like to epsure the other oae that the Resolution '

wfll not go to the Governor, ehere he mlght use.hfs amendatery.

' !veto power. Next, I would like to ask each aad every Xeaber of

tbe Houpe to join with Representattve Iipswotd ln singtng 'Happy

' k f t:e House of'Representatives Repre- IBtrthday to t:e Spea er o ,' sentatlve Blair; and Adellne. get up and . . . Adeltne. where '

are you; Okay, you and Rollfe lead us a11 ïa 'Happy Birehday'y1

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okay, or webll have to quartet then.'f

. Representattves: ''Happy Birthday to you, uappy Btrthday to you, Happy

Birthday, Dear Speaker, Happy Birthday to youo'l

' Speaker Telcser: ''The Gentlemaa from Wtll, Speaker Blair.''

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Speaker Blair: ''Well, first 1et m: thank my colleague, Clyde, and a11

tbe rest of the Members of the House for that Resolutfon. L do

appreciate it very much; and', Clydey I really think that if we'd

sent that on down to the Covernorls desk, he might well not even

attach that amendatory veto to it. Let's get back to work.''

' ' jjSpeaker Telcser: Representative Choate has moved that the House do

adopt House Resolution 567. A11 in favor of the adoptfon sfgnffy

by saying 'aye' . . . Roll Call? . . . opposed 'no'; the Resolution I

ks adopted. Okay, Death Resolutionse'' ' J'

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Clerk Selckek ''House Resolution 562, Katz et als in respect to the ;.

' . jmemory of Sarah Kamin. House Resolution 563. Schoeberlein et a1, ' 1

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jin respect to the memory of Janes Strohn Copley. House Resolutfon :

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!564: Shea et al& in respect to the memory of Mr. Joha Jertch. j

Rouse Resolution 565, Shea èt a1y in respect to the memory of Mr. :.

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tions are adopted. Okay, the Gentleman from Cooky Representative

Krone, for what purpose do you arfse, Sfr? Mr. Mroney for vhat

. burpose do vou aises Str?'î E

Krone: ''Mr. speaker. I rlse on a point of personal prtvilege/' (. ;

' T lcser: ''state your point sir.'' . !speaker e ,Krone: ''Tbis is my maiden speech and my farewell address a11 rolled up E

fnto one. Ah . . . Mr. Spèaker. I realize that there are some !. !

. !people in this Chamber who do not yet know that Spiro Agaew E

resïgned as Vice-president because so many people have been con- '

cerned wfth . . . *1th my appofntment . . . ah . . . ehfs past

week. I thought that . . . ah . . . considering Elliot Richardson's

resfgnation and Mr. 'Ruckell Soucels' resignation that it was a good

' time for men of good consc'ience to resign. Ah . . . Abraham Lfncoln

t said, not in this Chaaber, but not even in the regular House Chamber

; but over fn ehe State Capitel Bulldlng, 'that a House divfded in

itself cannot standî. Well, I'm sure that if that is true about

a House. it is also true about a party. I have been a Republican

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d i the great Ogilive yeav's, and I would hope that my party wouldur ng

hold to the high level of thit era. Obviouslyy many of you know

that I came here under unusual circumstances. I want to express

my gratftude to Edmond Kucharéki the Chafrman of the Republican

Party of Cook Countyy who appointed me as Ward Commttteeman of the

1st Ward. I want to: too, elpress my appreciation to the media.

who have supported that appointmeat, unusual as it was. I do not

believe that the constitutfonality of my appofntments would be con-

sidered in doubt by a Federal Court, but it is not my desire

to sue in a Federal Court. There are enough constttutional crisis

in this nation and there is no reason for this state to be injected

in one; but I would say this; that the Equal Protection Clause of

the United States' Constitution is the Supreme 1aw of the land; and

I would suggest that there would be some corstftutional provision

not only in this, but in any other clause fn the Constitution

whtch might bring some doubtt I would like to be a Member of this

House for the duration of this Sessiony and I would like to have

been a Member of the Bouse for continuing Sessions; and perhaps:

someday, the opprotunity may come; but it would not be worthwhile,

even if possible, to ask people to vote for me on a personal

basis out of pdzst f I'ienuislkipu &ad to ttan: itt oa lk 89 br 90 vut.e '

' Roll Call: and not be able to pass legislation for function of

representation is to representy and to do so effectively, I believe

that I have had an opportunity in past Sessions, not as a Repre-

sentative, to engage in the legislatfve process because this tsj 'an open Body; and I m very proud of legislation suc: as the

Edgewater Golf Course Acquisition Act, tbe Department on Agingm

the appropriation for the Aris' Councils the override of the C.T.A.

Bill earlier in this Sessfon; and I think that cttizens throughout

this state should be told that this fs an open system. That it is

not one just for Legislators ind for lobbyists; and so I will

return to private life, and hope that there will be no i11 will

fro: my brief comet-like appearance in this great city of Lincoln.

' I could not close without saytng several things about several peoplc.

I wanted to express my appreciation to the Speaker of the Housey who

s ''/rWR -', ' 4xa-M 2. ' . , G E N E R A L A S S E 5 1 B L Y

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. . . who appointed too fair a Commsttee to hear my complafnts.

Ah . . . I appreciate his per' sonal friendship and pledge to him

mine, not only now, but for the future. The very fact that I was

on this House for the period I was and to have the privildge of

having 100Z I.V.I. voting record by voting against the death penalty

and for the override of Governor Walker's veto of the voting

law. I'might be the I.V.I. best Legislator in havfng served only

one week. Anyway, I've ordered my stationary as 'Former State

Representative Philfp S. Kroneê. Ah . Also, I understand Iêm

the first professtonal volunteer in the history of the Assnmhly,

and I would hope that it remains so. I know, Mr. Manning, one of

the disttnguished Springfield correspondeats, thought that I was

very qager to get my hands on that $17.500 check. He failed to' read that press releasuy 'gizer' e 5 said I Slas golng to returu thrae-

fourth's of it; but, nonetheless, my . my idea was a pay

check in the hand was sort of another indication that I was holding

office. There are a few thinjs ah . . . that I might

hope that you would consider and that is thts, that 100 years

from nov, I don't think that very few people will know tiat any

of us were here. Perhaps some of us, but it isn't really fame or

fortune that we should seek; but an opportunity for service. I

should like to read a ltst of names, John Reynolds, Thomas Carlip,

Thomas Ford, William Bissell, Joseph Phieffer, and John Tanner.

Those names do not ring in your memory, but they were a11 Covernors

of the State of Illinois. So I would suggest that it is not the

position we hold in ltfe, but the deeds we do, not whether we are

recognized for the. but that' we. ourselves. did them and that our

self-esteem is such that we know that we have served our fellow man.

I have greatly enjoyed tbe evo weeks that I have been here. I

am sorry that there was such commotion. I hope that I have not

wasted anybody's time, but 1: want to say to you, Ladies: ahd Gentle-

men of the Houses and Mr. Speaker aad to the staff, that I treasure

the friendships I've made in the past in this Session, and look

fo rward to continufng them that in order that a report on this

precedent, and make no mistake, 1 am the precedent ah .

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in order that a report may be filed on this precedent, I am

resigning.' I will inform the Secretary of State: the Honorable

Michael Howletty that I will resign from this Honorable Body

effective 12:01 a.m. on Wednesday, which gives time for the

Commtttee to file the report so that no other persoa may tread

upon the dangerous areas I have at least until there's some

constitutional revision or adjudication fn the court. Soy Ladiesand Gentlemen, thank you for yôhur forebearance

, for your'attention;

Mr. Speaker Blair: Mr. Speaker Telcsery Mr. Speaker-to be-, maybe

Choates and Sbea and a11 the, other distinguished, wonderful

Members of this tegislature and the honorable gentlemen of the

press: I bid you.. ah . '. not farewelly but just a temporary

good-bye. Thank you very much.'''' .. jr 4, '

jjjjl . .. .. 'Speaker Telesez: Repu-esentative Blutdiardts c )ou stull have #n announcez :tm

kepresentative Bluthardt? The Gentleman from Cooks Representative

Bluthardt, in reference to an announcementp''

Bluthardt:. HIt may be mute, but tbere will be a meeting of the Subcom-

mittee on Elections immediately following this final adjournment

today.. There will be a meeting of the whole Commsttee on Elections

tomorrow following the final Sessfon tomorrow in Room 212.:'

i . tjl Speaker Telcser: The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Manny wfth

jq ' ,,re erence to aa announcement.

Mann: HYe Mr Speaker there will be a meeting of the House Comma-ttee#, . . ,

on Lake Michigan immediately following adjournment in Conference

Room 20, which is right behiùd my office in the State office

Building.''

Speaker Ielcser: ''Representative Rayson. for what purpose do you arise,

Sfr?î'

Rayson: HAh . '. . An inquiry of the Chair. I introduced House Resolution

566. It wasn't called today. Do I intend that it will be taken

up fn tomorrou's Sessfon? 566?''

Speaker Telcser: Hone moment.''

Rayson: ''566 ''

Speaker Telcser: î'Yeah, Representative Rayson, the item of business under

general Resolutions under which the Resolution which you just

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. .tvday. g TheyAll probably be datled tomorrow at which time w'e eaa

' d .iith them and whatever motions y'ou and tbe Sponsors wish to '. 'eaA/ . .

ypùt in régqrd to tbose Resolutionso'' 'T

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. Walsh, W. : 1'Wel1, Mr. Speakers bef ore I move adjournment: I might*'.x x- . . p ) '

. . - ' ' .. 1. pofnt out that we have onè mdée Specfal Sessfon to go. ehfs evenfng .

and so stick around. For now though I move that the Regular '. 8 ;'

u :Session adjourn until the lzotir of 12 noon tomorrow: october 23rd. ' ' .

spekker Telcser: ''The centleman's .moved tbe Regular Sessïon adjoura !'

. until the hour 12 noon tomorrcw. A11 in favor signify by saying. ' - . '

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' '' 'aye' the oyposed Ino'; and the Regular Session stands alourned. '9 :. , ! '

' ' Noky weêre going to convene . . . whicb one . . . okayy we're now

. going to convene the S/ecial Ses'sion l3, Special Session #3 is now. ' , vg . .. convened. and tbe Clerk uill now read the Proclxmxtfon.' *'

. jJ .'. !j. jj '. Clerk Selcke: . Proclamatfon. In order to avofd duplicatfve and unnecess-

- ary Special Sessions, Iy herçby. revoke my Proclamatioa of October

17, 1973, wbic: called and convened a Special Session of tbe

Sevenqr-eighth General Assembly on ontober 27th . . . 22nd, 1973, jI . .

at 4 o'clock p.m., Central Dayligbt Saving Timey then àt Springfieldy

- . october 18, 19739 Daniel Walker, Governor'. 'A Proclamation. It

' is desirable to prevent any question from being . . . Proclnmntion. .

fIt is desirable to prevent iny question from befng ratsed as

. to the authority of the General Assembly to.deal with certain matters

'' ' thfs Fall. Therefore, Pursuant to Article IVs Sectfon 5B. of the

1970 Constitution of tbe State of Illinois to commence on october -'

' 22. 1973. at 3:45 o'clock p.m., central Daylight savfngs Tfmey for ;

tbe foflowing purposes: 1) Epactment of lavs relating to state

lottery; 2) Enactment of la'ws relating to transportatïon wfthfa

. the State of Illinois, including. but' not ltmited toy a) tbe

establishment of a Regtonal Transft Authority in tbe Chicago

metropolitan areap b) restoiation of transportation bond funds

. delçted from the approprtations to t%e Department of Transportatfon;' k

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3) Enactment of laws relattng to transfer and expenditure of

. Federal . . . Federal Revenue Sharing Fuads. 4) Enactment of laws' '

relatinz to admfnistration and operatfon of drug abuses preventfoaJ . 'h''' . . ! '' .

and treatment programs, ,5) Enactment of laws 'amendfng the school I

con . . . the School Contruetion Bond Act to provide a continuiag

. appropriation for debts service. 6) Enactment of laws permftting' . the Department of Publfc Aid to repay . . . prepay certain costs

to the Feddral Government in accord with the provisions of the '. : 7

. . vederal A.A.B.D. Program. 7) Enactment of laws relating to appro-' .

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, ' priations: transfers including, but not limtted to: a) transfer of .' ' adult training and educatlon ltem from the Department of Labor .

: to the Department of Public Aid, approprfation to . . . b) appre-

. . -: priatiohs to the Capitol Development Board to autborize payment .-' -' ''' ''' '. . ' ' .

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' ' f tain litigation costs to provide planning funds for various. . o cer

. ' hlgher education frojecty; 8) Enactment of' laws providing .tax relief to individualg; Bctober 18, 1973, Springffeld, Illfnois;

' Dâniel Walker covernori'' '@ !' .

Speaker Telcser: . Ookay, tbe Gentleman from Cook, Rèpresentative Walsh,f- . . .

. . asks leave for the koll Call to be the same as that used in the . ' '

lst Special Session. Are thère any oblectionsr Hearing noney tbe

Roll Call from the 1st Speciat Session wfll serve as the Roll Call .

for the 3rd Special Session. Introductien. Fred says Resolutions

first. Resolutions.''

clerk Selcke: ''House Resolution #1. W. D. Walsh. 3rd Special Sessiony'

'Resolved tbatbthe 61erk inform the Senate that a majorfty of the

' Members of tbe House îave assembled pursuant to the Proclamation

of tbe Governor convenfng a 3rd Special Session of the General

Assembly and are nok ready for t%e transactton of busfness'. House

Resolutton 2. w. D. Walsh, 3rd Special Sesston. 'Resotved that

the rules of the House of Representatfves of the Seventy-efghth

' . ceùeral Assembly as amended be adopted as the rules of this 3rd

k - Specfal Session, so far as the same may be applicab 1ey and that.

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the Standing Commlttees of the Eeuse of the Seventy-eighth General

. Assbmbly and their Meubersbip shall constttute the Standing com-. jmittees of the Bouse of Representatives during this 3rd Special

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Session. House Resolution 3. W. D. Walshy 3rd Special Sessfon,

'Resolved that a Comm<ttee.of five Medbers. no more than three

from the Malority Party'be appointed by the Speaker to'appro#e '

: the last day's Journal. and a1l Journals of the 3rd Specfal Session '!

Speaker Telcserz ''rhe centleman from Cookx Representative Wlllfam Walsh.''

Walsh' W.q' 'lA: . . . Mr. Speakery these are KNe housekeeping Resolutionsy

the first that the Clerk fnfor: the Senate that the Specïal Session; ' .'

is convened; the second tsat the rules of the nouse of the seventy-

etght: ceneral'Assembly'' as amended be adopted and used as the nzles ' '

for the 3rd Special Seskion; and finally. that the . . . a Com- . ' '

. mtttee of five Members be appointed to approve the fïnal Journal

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of this 3rd Speèial Session; and I move the adoption of House . .

. ' Resolutions l 2 and' 3.of the 3rd Special Session.'' ' ' '.. . .. . '

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. Speaker Telcser: ''The centleman has offered to mùve the adoption of .

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nouse Resoluttons'l. 2 and 3, special sesston #3. A1l in favor . j'stgnify by saying''ayelt, opposed 'no'; the Reselutions 'are adopted. . 1..

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Introducttons. First âeading.t' .

clerk Selcke: ''House Bill l1, 3rd Special Sessiopy Juckett. amends an

Act to provide for the transportation of school children. First 1ouse Bill #2, Schliclmnn et a1, amends the , , 1Readinq of the Bill. H

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- Retatzers. cccupation Tax and so forts-' vlrst Readtn: of tse 1. .

. . j' 3ï11. nouse A1l1 3, 3rd Special Session: R. A. Walsh et al, amends I

' the zzlinols zncome TAx Act. rirst Readtn: of t:e B111. House

3fl1 4, 3rd Special Seisïon, Deuster et al . . . the Northeastern

zzzt'nots zransportatton Author:zy Acz. ezvst Readtng of the Btl1. 1

. 1 ' jnouse Bill 5, Deuster et al, 3rd special sessfon. nmmnds State .

Etnance Aqt. Ffrst Reidïng of the Bf11'. House 5fll 6. Deuster. 11

' 3rd Specfal Session atends the Motor Fuel Tax lav. First Readfng !

of tbe 3i11. House Bill 7. Sbeay 3rd Specfal Sessïony creaees'

jan Act appropriattng $40,000,000 and so forth. Ffrst Readfng' .

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of the Bi11. House Btll 8. Harold Washington et a1y 3rd. creates '1. .... . !

. an Act appropriatlng $50.000,000. First Reading of tbe Bfli. House'

. 13il1 9 Harold Washington, 3rd Special Session. creates the Emer- j9gency Fublic Transportation toan Act. Ftrst Readtng of tbe :i11.

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f' :. ., House Bfll 10, 3rd SpeclAl Sessiony Stone et a1: creates the Down- .

state.Hiahwav's Bond Act. Fïrst ReadinM of the Bi1l. House Bill '

' . 12, Garmisa-tondrigan et'al, 3rd Specfal Sessiony creates the .

1 ' Regional Transportation Authority Act. Fïrst Reading of the ', . ' -' ,j , . '

Bill. House 3:11 13, 3rd Special Sessiony Ehoate et a1s a newl . . . ' . . . .

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j . dsvsduazs oaZ Xct to reduce regressive and burdensome imp aat ou in

I uouse Bi11 l4.' taxes and so forth. First Readfng of the 5ill.i .

t - 3rd Special Sesslony Choate et a1, ayproprfates $110 000y000 to?. the Department of Revenue for payment of tax relief grants. Ffrst ' .j ' . . . !. .

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' s eaker Telcser: '. ''n e centleman f rom co'ok Representattve wllliam Walsllo'' . 'p .

- - , Walsh. V.: Mrr Speaker, I move tbat the 3rd Spvcial Sessfon adloura. ? . . . . . .. . . . .

' . . - until t:e heur of 10 a.y. on october 23rd. .

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Speaker Telcser: 'fA11 rfaht. . e .''. ' ' ' ' ' ' . .

Walsh. W.: ''To.kecapitulate a little blt: Mr. speaker. ve are due in .- . . ) ' ' ' '

- here tomerrov. The lst Special Session coavenes at 9:30. that's = .

.. . J '.our earliest convenlng. The otbers convene after that, so I move. '

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' ' tbat we adlourn. Mr. Speaker. untfl the sour of 10 a.m. for the

. ' 3rd Specia: Session.'' z

speaker Telcser: ''Is there any discussioa! The centleman has offered

to move that the Rousej adjounl the Special Sessioa 13 until the

. . . '' hour of 10 a.m. A11 those in favor sfgnify by saying 'aye'y the

. ' opposed 'no'; the Bouxe stands. adjourned untfl ehe hour of 9:30

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referred to and Representative Cunntngham's have not been called

today. They#ll probably be called tomorrow at whfch time we can

deal with them and whatever motions you and the Sponsors Vfsh to !.1 I

Iput fn regard to t%ose Resôluttons-''

Rayson; ''Thank you.''

speaker lelcser: ''The Gentleaan from Cook, Representative William

' ualsh.''

walsh, W.: ''We11, Mr. Speaker, vbefove I move adjournment, I might .l ,

point out that we have one more Special Sessioa to go this evenfng

and so stick around. For now though I move tbat the Regular ''

session adjourn until t:e bour of 12 nooa tomerrow, october 23rd.n '

speaker Telcser: ''The Gentleaan's moved the Regular Sesslon adjourn'

. . until the hour 12 noon tomorrow. A1l in favor signify by saying1

' ' 'aye', the opposed 'noCi'and the Regular Session stands ajourned. I

' Nowy we're going to convene . . . whfch one . . . okayy weere nov .

going to conveae the Special Session 113, Special Session f/3 is now j' j

1. 1convened: and the Clerk will now read the ProclaRation. I. I

. ., tl .- !. Clerk Selcke: Proclamatfon. In order to avoid duplicative an unnecess I' j' . jary Special Sessions, 1, hereby, revoke my Proclamation of October 1

. Il7s 1973, whic: called and convened a Special Sesston of the I

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. ' j' !Seventv-etghth General Assembly on October 27th . . . 22nd, 1973:$ î ' II . ' . !

4 ' lock p.m., Central Dayligbt Saving Time: then at Springfieldy 1at o c I' . I' I

. october 18, 19739 Daniel Walker, Governorl. 'A Proclamatton. It 1' !! I. '

j' ' Is desirable to prevene any question from being . . . Proclnmntion. 1. I-

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IIt is desirabte to prevent any question from being rafsed as !. . I

' . to the authority of the General Assembly to,deal with certain matters !1

thfs Fall. Therefore, pursuant to Article IVs Sectton 5B, of the II

1970 Constitution of the State of Illinofs to commence on october '!' l

' 1' 22, 1973. at 3:45 o'clock p.m., Central Daylight Savings Timey for I11the following purposes) 1) Enactment of laws relatfng to state !I

' Ilottery; 2) Enactment of laws relating to transportatlon vfthln I

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the State of Illinois, including, but not limited toy a) t%e . !. !

establishment of a Regional Transit Authorfty in the Chicago I. 1

!metropolitan area, b) restoration of transpcrtation bond funds lI

Ideleted from the appropriations to the Department of Transportation; r

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' 3) Enéctment of laws relating to transfer and expenditure of

Federal . . . Federal Revenue Sharing Funds, 4) Enactment of laws

relating to administration and operation of drug abuse, prevention. i

and treatment programsy 5) Eaactmeat of laws amendiag the school l- j'

con . . . the School Contruction Bond Act to provide a continuing 1'

. jappropriation for debts service 6) Enactment of laws peèmfttfng '#

he Department of Publf c Aid to repay . . . prepay certain costs it!i

' to the Federal Government in accord wtth the provisfons of the !: i ;

Federal A.A.B.D. Programy 7) Enactment of laws relating to appro- r' k

l' priations: transfers including, but not limfted to, a) transfer of i

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' adult training and education item from the Department of Labor

J to the Department of Public Aid, appropriatfon to . . . b) appro-

. . priations to the Capitol Developmeat Board to authorize payment

. . of certain litigation costs to provide planning funds for various

. higher education jrojecty; 8) Enactment of laws providing

tax relief to individuals; October 18, 1973. Springfield, Illfnots;

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- Speaker Telcser: MOkays the Centlecan from Cooky Rèpresentative Walshy .

. asks leave for the Roll Call to be the same as that used fn the '

1st Special Session. Are there any objectfons? Hearing none. the

. Roll Call from the 1st Special Session wfll serve as the Roll CallJ .j ' for the 3rd Special Session. Introduction. Fred says Resolutions

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. :clerk Selcke: nHouse Resolution //1, W. D. Walsh, 3rd Special Session,

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fResolved thafhthe Clerk inform the Senate that a majority of the

Members of the House have assembled pursuant to the Proclamation. ' jof the Governor convening a 3rd Special Session of the General '

Assembly aqd are now ready for the transaction of business'. House

' Resolution 2, W. D. Walsh, 3rd Special Sessfony 'Resolved that

the rules of the House of Represehtatives of the Seventy-eigbth

Geùeral Assembly as amended be adopted as the rules of this 3rd

Spectal Session: so far as the same may be applfcabte. and that

the Standing Committees of the House of the Seventy-eighth General

Assembly and their Membership shall constitute the Standing Com-. 1

mfttees of the House of Representàtives during this 3rd Speciali

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Session. House Resolution 3, W. D. Walsh, 3rd Specfal Sessfoay

'Resolved that a committee of five Memberss no more than three'

,from the Majorfty Party be appofated by the Speaker to approve

the last dayfs Journal and al1 Journals of the 3rd Specfal Session

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. of the Seventy-eighth Genexal Assemhlyf.''

Speaker Telcser: HThe Gentleman from Cook. Representative Wlllfam Walshz'

Walshy W.: ''Ah . . . Mr. Speaker, these are the housekeepfng Resolutfonsy

the first that the clerk inform the Seaate that the Special Session1

is convened; the second that the rules of the House of the Seventy-

etghth Ceneral'Assembly as amended be adopted and used as the rules'

for the 3rd speclal Sesston; and finally. that the . . . a Coc-

mittee of five Members be appointed to approve the ffnal Journal

.of tbis 3rd Spectal Session; and I move the adoption of House

Resolutions ly 2 and 3 of the 3rd Specfal Sessfon-''' ' Speaker Telcser: NThe Gentleman has offered to move the adoptfon of

House Resolutioas'ly 2 aad 3. Spectal Session //3. h11 in favor

si nify by saying l ' aye' opposed 'no' ; the Resolutf ons 'are adopted .B ,

Introductions, First Reading/' '

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bi11 //1 3rd Specfal Sessiopy Juckett. amends an- , :

' Act to provide for the transportation of school children. First

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Readfng of the Bill. House Bi11 //2, Schlickman et a1. emends the- Retatlers' Occupation Tax and so forth. Ffrst Reading of the

' Bil1. House Bill 3, 3rd Specfal Sessiony R. A. Walsh et a1, amends

the Illinots Income TAx Act. First Reading of the Bill. Rouse

3fl1 4. 3rd Special Sesston. Deuster et al . . . the Northeastern'

' Illinois Trapsportation Authority Act. ' Ffqst Readfng of the Bi11.

House Bill 5, Deuster et a1. 3rd Special Sesslon, auends State

, Ffnance Act. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 6, Deustery

3rd Special sessiony amends the Mptor Fuel Tax law. Flrst Reading

of the Bi1l. House Bilt 1, Shea, 3rd Special Sessfon, creates

an Act appropriating $60,000,000 and so fortb. First Reading

of the Bill. House Bill 8, Harold Washington et a1, 3rd, creates

' an Act approprfating $50,0004000. First Reading of the B111. House

Bill 9, Harold Nashingtony 3rd Special Sessions creates the Emer-

gency Public Transportation Loan Act. First Reading of the Bf11.I

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.f gouse Bill 10, 3rd spectal Sessioa, Stone et a1a creates the Bown- v 'state Highway s Bond Act. First Readfng of the B111. House B111

l2, Garmisa-rondrtgan et a1y 3rd Spectal Sessïon. creates the

Regional Transportation àuthority Aet. llrst Readtng of the

Bf11. House Bill 13, 3rd Spectal Sessiony Choate et al, a new

# Act to reduce regressive and burdensome lmpact on fndivtduals on

taxes and so forth. First Reading of the :111. Eouse Bf11 14.

3rd Special Session. Choate eg-al, appropriates $110 000,000 to!' the Department of Revenue for payment of tax relief grants. Ftrst '

Reading of the B11lJ' ' ' ' . ' '

. lp ' ' r.Speaker Telcser: . The Gentleman from Cook, Representative William Walsb. '' Nalshy W.: êlMr. Speaker. I move Ihat the 3rd Special Sesstoa adlourn

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until the hour of 10 a.m. on October 23rdJ'

Spoaker Telcser: uA11 rl gbt . . J' ' ' '' 1 .

Walsh, W.: HTo.recapitulate a little bit. Mr. Speakery we are due fn '

here tomorrow. The 1st Special Sessioa convenes at 9:30. that's

our earliest convenlng. The others conveae after that, so I meve '' '

that we adlourn, Mr. Speaker, until the hour of 10 a.m. for the-

,13rd Special Session. ,. . j '

. speaker Telcser: ''Is there a'ny discusston? The Gentleman bas offered'

h Eouse adjeun: the Special Sessioa fl3 until the$ to move tbat t e. . ' ' hour of 10 a.m. All those in favor sigaify by saylng 'aye'. the

' opposed 'ao'; the House standst.adjourned until the hour of 9:30

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THE HONORABLE W.: ROBERT BLAIR, SPEAKER '

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vaxxscRlpTzox IuoEx . . DATE: 10-22-73

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TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATEI 10-22-73

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