workflow: making the tools work for you (ncce 2011)
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These are accompanying slides for Jason Neiffer's presentation "Workflow: Making the Tools Work for You" at NCCE 2011 in Portland, Oregon.TRANSCRIPT
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J a s o n N e i f f e r C u r r i c u l u m D i r e c t o r , M o n t a n a D i g i t a l A c a d e m y
3 M a r c h 2 0 1 1 N C C E 2 0 1 1 , P o r t l a n d , O r e g o n
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About me…
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I am not a guru…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/avlxyz/3449574196/sizes/m/
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• The Problem • The Complications • The Solution
Agenda
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T h e P r o b l e m …
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The problem…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kogakure/153741685/sizes/z/in/photostream/
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• “The average ‘knowledge worker’ -- basically, anyone who works on a computer – gets about 93 e-mails a day…”
• “Because people can be connected 24/7, many of them are.”
Whoa!
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“In this breakthrough book, Richard Saul Wurman explains why the information explosion has backfired leaving us stranded between mere facts and real understanding…”
Not new…
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1989!
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T h e C o m p l i c a t i o n …
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http://michaelhanley.ie/elearningcurve/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/authoring_tools3.jpg
http://michaelhanley.ie/elearningcurve/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/authoring_tools3.jpg
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“But, if we moved to a Web-based collaboration tool, it'd mean that I and my colleagues would have to keep track of changes on that tool…”
-- Mitch Wagner, Information Week
The core problem…
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The lesson?
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T h e S o l u t i o n …
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Workflow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workflow http://www.ensemble.cms.vt.edu/user-manual/glossary/index.html
“A defined set of development stages applied to a content item…”
“A workflow consists of a sequence of connected steps…”
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Create a regular set of steps to process information, content and knowledge…
Goal
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1. Start with one process: develop more over time
2. Less is more: don’t use four tools when two will accomplish the same task
3. Review and evaluate: regularly review and evaluate, then eliminate, enhance or modify
4. Adopt new tools carefully: don’t assume that you need to use EVERYTHING that is cool, nifty or otherwise handy
5. Don’t follow these rules: ignore the rules if you stumble on something that works better for you!
The rules
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You already have a basic set of tools that have adopted and like…
Assumption
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M y B a s i c To o l s e t
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Capture tool: RSS Reader
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Tool organization: XMarks
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Capture tool: Dropbox
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Capture tool: Evernote
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Archiving/Sharing Tool: Delicious Social Bookmarking
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Sharing: RSS in WordPress/Moodle
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Sharing tool: Shareaholic
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Capture/reading tool: Instapaper
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Devices: Laptop, desktop, iPad, iPhone
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L e t ’s d ev e l o p a w o r k f l ow !
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I am a world geography teacher that has a unit for each continent. I am looking for fresh, current content to support my unit on Africa as the textbook is dated and isn’t as engaging as I would like it to be.
Scenario
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1. • Check existing resources • Consider new topics
2. • Set up traps for information
3. • Process collected results
4. • Archive AND/OR • Share
5. • Review
Workflow Process
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1. • Check existing resources (Web Search; Delicious) • Consider new topics
2. • Set up traps for information (Google Reader)
3. • Process collected results (Google Reader)
4. • Archive (Delicious, Instapaper) AND/OR • Share (Shareoholic; Delicious RSS Feeds w/WordPress and Moodle)
5. • Review
Workflow Process With Tools
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1. Review
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1. Review
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2. Set up traps
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2. Set up traps
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2. Set up traps
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2. Set up traps
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3. Process Results
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4. Archive: Delicious
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4. Archive: Instapaper
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4. Share: RSS Feeds
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4. Share: Shareaholic
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4. Share: Shareaholic
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• Too wide a net? Too narrow a net? • Still useful? • Capturing too much information for my
current projects? • Using the right tools? • Able to process the information?
5. Review
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I am a Curriculum Director for an online K-12 program. I am in charge of mentoring students, teachers and site facilitators on various technical processes related to our learning management system, student information system and other assets.
Scenario
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1. • Check existing resources • Consider new topics
2. • Set up traps for information
3. • Process collected results
4. • Archive AND/OR • Share
5. • Review
Workflow Process
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1. • Check existing resources: Site Facilitator/Student/Parent Blog, Moodle (LMS)
2. • Set up traps for information: Need screen capture software
3. • Process collected results: Student, parent, teacher or site facilitator asks for
help, I use the screen capture software to create a series of screen shots
4. • Share: Blogs and Moodle
5. • Review
Workflow Process
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• Questions: – Time? – Right tools for the job? – More efficient way to do the job?
In review…
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Skitch for Mac
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Screen Presso for PC
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1. • Establish regular email practice (check email 3
times a day)
2. • Choose action items: immediate action, short term
action, long term action
3. • Immediate action: complete, schedule, share
4. • Short term action: Schedule, archive, share
5. • Long term action: Schedule, archive, share
Workflow Process: Email
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1. • Establish regular email practice (Gmail; check 3 times a day with weekly
review on Sunday mornings to find lost or forgotten action items)
2. • Choose action items: immediate action, short term action, long term action
3. • Immediate action: complete, schedule (Google Calendar, CalenGoo on iPad),
archive (Delicious, InstaPaper, Dropbox) share (Delicious, Shareaholic)
4. • Short term action: Schedule (Google Calendar, CalenGoo on iPad), archive
(Delicious, InstaPaper, Dropbox), share (Delicious, Sharaholic)
5. • Long term action: Schedule (Google Calendar, CalenGoo on iPad), archive
(Delicious, InstaPaper, Dropbox), share (Delicious, Sharaholic)
Workflow Process: Email With Tools
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• Dissertation research • Professional reading • PLN collaboration/communication • Fresh content • Exposure to new ideas and resources • Complete projects and action items • Have fun
Tweak for other projects
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L o n g - t e r m s t r a t e g i e s
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• Don’t use tools to try to gather all information; use filters to gather only information you think you would use
• Example: the RSS Feed for the New York Times or even my local newspaper
Less is more…
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(Mark Hurst’s Bit Literacy)
“Media Diet”
• “Rare sources that consistently give useful, relevant information” • In workflow: tools that are the core tools you use all the time
Stars
• “Reliably deliver at least some relevant information” • In workflow: tools that may not be used every day, but so something very well
Scans
• “Sources good for a targeted, single use” • In workflow: highly specialized tool that you use for special projects
Targets
• “Sources that are applying to be in your lineup, but are applying to be there) • In workflow: new tools form discovery or referral that could end up above
Tryouts
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“Weekly review”
http://www.flickr.com/photos/labeteslair/3396433643/sizes/z/
Davis Allen’s Getting Things Done
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Timothy Ferriss’s Four Hour Workweek And
Merlin Mann’s Inbox Zero
Limit email/voicemail distractions
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David Allen’s Getting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity …available in print, audio book and via Kindle
Additional Resources
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Timothy Ferriss’s The 4-Hour Workweek …available in print, audio book and via Kindle
Additional Resources
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Mark Hurst’s Bit Literacy …available in print, audio book and via Kindle
Additional Resources
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http://www.lifehacker.com
Additional Resources
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http://www.webworkerdaily.com
Additional Resources
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Questions?
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