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Witness Preparation Strategies Pursuing Aggressive Advocacy While Avoiding Ethical Violations for Woodshedding

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Teresa Rider Bult, Partner, Constangy Brooks & Smith, Nashville, Tenn.

Coby Cohen, Assistant General Counsel - Litigation & Employment, Knowledge Universe, Portland, Ore.

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Witness Preparation Strategies:

Teresa Rider Bult, Constangy, Brooks & Smith, LLP

[email protected]

Coby Cohen, Knowledge Universe - U.S.

[email protected]

Pursuing Aggressive Advocacy and

Avoiding Ethical Violations

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Theory of Witness Preparation

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• Some take the position that any witness “preparation” distorts the search for truth and is thus improper

• But witnesses entering a strange playing field – they need to be prepared to deal with it

• Witnesses’ credibility and testimony could be impacted by a trained attorney’s questioning – If they don’t understand how the process works

– If they aren’t actively listening to the question

• Essentially, witnesses are being asked to enter a new country and need to know how to speak the language – The witnesses’ lawyers are their translators

» Small, Daniel L., Preparing Witnesses, A Practical Guide for Lawyers & Their Clients, American Bar Association Publication, 2004.

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– “A lawyer who did not prepare his or her witness for testimony, having had an opportunity to do so, would not be doing his or her professional job properly.” District of Columbia Bar, Ethics Opinion No. 79 (1979), p. 139

– As long as focused on developing and clarifying truthful testimony, such preparation may include the lawyer:

• Being “persistent and aggressive in presenting [counsel’s] theory of the case.” RTC v. Bright, 6 F.3d 336, 342 (5th Cir. 1993)

• Suggesting language to the witness that might aid the testimony, DC Opinion 79, p. 139

• Suggesting substantive points to the witness, DC Opinion 79, p. 139

• Conducting “practice examination or cross-examination,” DC Opinion 79, p. 140.

» Small, Daniel L., Preparing Witnesses, A Practical Guide for Lawyers & Their Clients, American Bar Association Publication, 2004.

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– In short, “Both the witness and the lawyer

share a responsibility for ensuring the truth of

the witness’ testimony.” » Small, Daniel L., Preparing Witnesses, A Practical

Guide for Lawyers & Their Clients, American Bar

Association Publication, 2004.

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The Basics of Witness

Preparation

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Keep the Main Issue the Main Issue:

Primary Purpose of Witness Preparation

• Witnesses need to:

– Have fading memories refreshed

– Become comfortable with the strange setting

– Understand legal concepts

– Understand obligations (to tell the truth) and

“rights” in the deposition

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Your (the Attorney’s) Job:

• Know all the facts and legal issues in the case

• Anticipate what questions the other side will ask

• Educate yourself on opposing counsel and

his/her style

• Read through all prior deposition transcripts in

the case – has this witness’ name been

mentioned?

• Touch every document in the case (if possible)

to make sure you can show the witness all

relevant documents/walk through them

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Key Points to Instruct Your

Witness in Deposition Prep: • TRUTH: Obligation to Tell the Truth, and Nothing

Discussed in Preparation is Intended to Instruct Otherwise

• Tell the Witness NOT to Volunteer Information – Give the shortest, most accurate answer

– “Yes” and “No” are appropriate answers – no need to elaborate

• Tell the Witness to Ensure He/She “Understands the Question” – Watch for the tricky question

– Listen to the question

– Ask for rephrasing when appropriate • Does not mean to ask what the definition of “is” is

– Pause before you answer

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Witness in Deposition Prep: • Instruct the Witness to Never Guess the Answer

– Beware of the foibles of memory

– Don’t be afraid to say “I don’t know” or “I don’t remember”

– Don’t take an attorney’s statement as to what happened as true unless you know it to be true

– Understand attorneys are very good at piecing together facts to undermine your faulty “memory”

• Tell the Witness NOT to Speculate – Distinguish Between What You KNOW and what you ASSUME

– Don’t Play the Dates and Documents Game

• The Witness Must Know this is Not an Endurance Test – Ask to take a break (as an attorney, make sure they take a

break periodically)

– Particularly true for lengthy and document-intensive depos

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Witness in Deposition Prep: • Make sure they understand how to handle objections

• Make sure they know to listen to your objections/ pause before they answer

• Prepare them for what to do when documents are presented to them

• What if the attorney asks personal questions, like prior convictions, divorces, roommates?

• Can they correct mistakes? If so, how? – Attorney questioning at end

– Errata sheet (but must discuss drawbacks of this)

– During deposition – can say, “I think I misspoke”

• Talk through logistics: – How to dress

– What to bring (nothing)

– What to expect if there is a video deposition (always check the notice to see if they may have a video camera there)

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BEST ADVICE FOR ATTORNEYS

PREPARING WITNESSES:

“The rule is, never try to teach a pig to

sing. It doesn’t work, and it annoys the

hell out of the pig.”

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Client v. Non-Client

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• Clients: attorney-client privilege is almost always going to apply

• What you tell your client is not generally discoverable

• Non-clients – can spill the beans on everything about your prep session – Make sure they are prepared for the following obvious

questions: • “Are you represented by counsel today?”

• “What did you talk about with the attorney?”

• “Did the attorney instruct you to do anything?” – Answer: “Yes, of course, to tell the truth.”

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• If you are representing a company, think about level of employee you are preparing – Manager – probably a “client”

– Hourly employee or “supervisors” – have to consider context

• UpJohn Co. v. United States, 449 U.S. 383 (1981) – Rejected “control group” test for determining attorney-client privilege for

corporate employees • “in the corporate context, it will frequently be employees beyond the control

group . . . who will possess the information needed by the corporation's lawyers.”

• “Middle-level -- and indeed lower-level -- employees can, by actions within the scope of their employment, embroil the corporation in serious legal difficulties, and it is only natural that these employees would have the relevant information needed by corporate counsel if he is adequately to advise the client with respect to such actual or potential difficulties.”

– Attorney-client privilege/ work doctrine appears to apply if the advice concerns “matters within the scope of the employees' corporate duties,” and employees themselves are “sufficiently aware that they [are] being questioned in order that the corporation [can] obtain legal advice.”

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• What about former employees?

– Probably no privilege unless set up

representation with them as well (and joint

representation can be tricky)

– Depends on jurisdiction

– Most states say that privilege does not apply

to former employees – question may be

whether the witness has ability to bind the

corporation

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• What about other people in the room during

preparation?

– If representing company, and another managerial

employee, probably okay (privilege still applies)

– If non-party, the conversation is no longer privileged

– If spouse, spousal privilege may apply, but don’t

assume - do research first and try to avoid (and it is

likely best to avoid this scenario, particularly since

you don’t control the spousal privilege)

– If joint defendants, probably okay, but not fool-proof

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The 30(b)(6) Deposition Prep

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30(b)(6) Depo Prep

• Preparation of your 30(b)(6) witness is very important.

• They speak for the corporation and must be prepared to testify on behalf of corporation. – Can designate multiple witnesses

– Can ask for more specifics than are on Notice

– Can file for protective order ahead of time

– Must fully prepare on all areas outlined in the Notice.

• Should not typically say “I don’t know” – CAN say, “Despite diligent preparation for this deposition, I did

not anticipate that question being posed here today based on the areas of inquiry outlined in the Notice” or

– “The company does not have knowledge about that fact” (e.g., if they are asking questions another party or parent company would know)

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30(b)(6) Depo Prep

• Starlight International, Inc. v. Herlihy, 186 F.R.D. 626 (D. Kan. 1999), and 190 F.R.D. 587 (D. Kan. 1999).***

– Held: producing an unprepared witness for a Rule 30(b)(6) deposition "is tantamount to a failure to appear at a deposition . . .," and therefore constitutes sanctionable conduct under Fed. R. Civ. P. 37(d)(1)(A).

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30(b)(6) Depo Prep –

TIPS • Make sure the witness understands their

obligation & can say they diligently made inquiries on all areas outlined in Notice

• Make sure the witness talks to others in organization and reviews all relevant documents to become educated on areas outside their personal knowledge

• Teach them to say the magic words, “I did not anticipate that question based on the areas of inquiry in the Notice” or “the company does not have knowledge”

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In-House Considerations

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• High-level managers are sometimes the

most difficult to prepare

– They feel the need to know everything or feel

they already know everything

– Won’t take the time to prepare

– Think they can “outsmart” the other side

– May need General Counsel or other high-level

manager present in deposition preparation to

ensure they understand obligations

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• Conversely, hourly employees sometimes don’t understand whole process or pressure they’ll be under in deposition

– Will sometimes tell you one thing in preparation and cave at actual deposition

• Know your workforce and your witness

– Individual needs to be prepared so they know what to expect

• Not to change their testimony, but so you can prepare and understand case

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• As In-House Counsel, Consider the Need

to be Involved in Witness Preparation

– Will your presence help or hurt the process?

• Be strategic with your outside counsel

• Your presence might put the deponent at ease or

only make the deponent more afraid to talk

– Will it be helpful for you to see witness

demeanor to better assess the case?

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Deposition vs. Trial

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Deposition v. Trial

• Principles for Witness Preparation for Trial are Similar to Deposition.

• EXCEPT, Key Issues to Consider at Trial: – Witness Likeability

• Be prepared for credibility questions

• Don’t act smug

• Don’t be defensive – Own behavior that you should

• Jury is watching at all times (even during breaks/ going to bathroom/ in elevator)

– Does Witness Seem Too Prepared?

– Ensure witness knows not to look at attorney for “help” during trial

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Deposition v. Trial

• Additional Key Issues to Consider at Trial:

– Witness needs to be prepared for different Rules:

• What to do when objections are made

• How to get in a business record into evidence

• Magic words for refreshing recollection (“I just can’t

remember;” “Would there be anything which would help you

remember?”)

– Witness Needs to be Prepared for DIRECT

Examination

• Picking up attorney clues for what answer they are seeking

• Understanding the flow of questioning to be presented

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Deposition v. Trial

• Additional Key Issues to Consider at Trial:

– Need to be prepared for impeachment from

prior deposition testimony

– Need to be prepared to explain bad prior

deposition testimony

– May be sequestered

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Ethical Questions: Witness

“Coaching” v. Preparation

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Applicable Ethical Rules

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Lawyer’s Duty in Preparing

Witnesses • ABA Model Rule 1.3 -- Diligence

– “A lawyer shall act with reasonable diligence and promptness in representing a client.”

• Comment to Rule: – “A lawyer should pursue a matter on behalf of a client despite

opposition, obstruction or personal inconvenience to the lawyer, and take whatever lawful and ethical measures are required to vindicate a client's cause or endeavor.

– “A lawyer must also act with commitment and dedication to the interests of the client and with zeal in advocacy upon the client's behalf.

– “A lawyer is not bound, however, to press for every advantage that might be realized for a client.”

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Lawyer’s Duty in Preparing

Witnesses

• TRUTH – the #1 rule of any deposition

– ABA Model Rule 3.3(a) - Candor Toward The Tribunal

• A lawyer shall not knowingly. . .make a false statement of fact or

law to a tribunal or fail to correct a false statement of material

fact or law previously made to the tribunal by the lawyer. . . Or

offer evidence that the lawyer knows to be false.”

– Disciplinary Rule 7-102(A):

• A lawyer, “shall not . . . [p]articipate in creation or preservation

of evidence when he knows or it is obvious that the evidence is

false” or “counsel or assist his client in conduct that the lawyer

knows to be illegal or fraudulent.”

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Case Examples

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Ibarra v. Baker

• Ibarra v. Baker, 338 Fed.Appx. 457 (5th Cir.

2009)

• Court Considered How Far is Too Far When it

Comes to Witness Coaching

– District court ordered sanctions and found attorneys

planted two new terms of art into the litigation via

deposition testimony – “retaliation” and “high crime

area”

– On appeal, court found the evidence was “a bit

scant,” but upheld the lower court decision

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Ibarra v. Baker

• Ibarra v. Baker (cont.)

– Note one issue in case: the way the court

found out about the conduct is because the

attorneys didn’t do the prep themselves – they

had expert witnesses speak with other officers

– While privilege may protect this same activity

if a lawyer conducted the preparation, the

lesson regarding the dividing line between

improper coaching and preparation is key

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Moussaoui Trial

• March 2006, attorney Carla Martin was

sanctioned in Virginia for providing copies

of trial transcript to pending witnesses in

al-Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaui

• Court said it was a violation of an ethics

rule and an explicit court order – Transcript of Evidentiary Hearing Before the Honorable

Leonie M. Brinkema, U.S. District Court Judge, United

States v. Zacarias Moussaoui, No. 01-455 (E.D. Va. Mar.

14, 2006), at *217-18.

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Trial of Senator Ted Stevens

• Judge kicked attorney Bob Bundy out of

the courtroom for nodding his head at his

client during criminal trial of Senator Ted

Stevens (for improperly accepting

$250,000 in gifts and home renovations) – http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=120244

7348097&slreturn=1&hbxlogin=1

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QUESTIONS/ ANSWERS

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Can You Show a Witness a Transcript

of Someone Else’s Testimony? • Short Answer: Yes, for depositions

• Caution: – Other side will try to make it sound like you reviewed testimony to

“get stories straight”

– Don’t use the deposition testimony as a lazy way to prepare your witness

– Best practice: Don’t show them the whole transcript; just review questions from prior deposition to prepare them for potential questions

• Trial is a different story – they may invoke “the rule” (sequestration/ exclusion of witnesses) – Rule 615 of Federal Rules of Evidence says “at the request of a

party, the court shall order witnesses excluded so that they cannot hear the testimony of other witnesses, and it may make the order of its own motion.”

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Can You Tell the Witness the Theory of the Case/

Company’s Legitimate, Nondiscriminatory Reason

(for employment cases)?

• Yes – Important for Witness to

Understand the Big Picture

• Caution:

– Witness Should Articulate in Own Words

• Same response for all witnesses make it look less

credible

• Learned from Ibarra case that “term planting” can

be sanctionable

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Documentation – can you provide

witnesses with a list of documents to review?

• Yes, but question is whether the witness has to

testify about it/ produce the list

– Technically, witness has to produce what he/she

used to prepare for deposition

– Some jurisdictions take approach that if it isn’t

substantive information, it is attorney-client

privileged/ attorney work product

– Document used to refresh recollection is fair game

– Videos preparing them are good

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Can you tell them a specific fact they didn’t

know before deposition?

• Yes, but again, be careful you aren’t planting memories

• Need to make sure you’re just generally informing them of background facts, not suggesting that they need to testify to the fact

• Be wary of witness who says, “I’ll say whatever you want me to say”

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How do you handle prepping multiple

witnesses at one time?

• Again, think about status of attorney-client

privilege

• Caution: one witness may not be

comfortable sharing entire story with other

one around (especially if other witness is

supervisor)

• Avoid if you can

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Preparation – How Much

do you Want to Invest?

• If important witness, think about

videotaping a mock deposition or direct/

cross-examination, so the witness can see

how they will testify

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Coaching Witnesses DURING

Deposition or Trial

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Deposition or Trial • Can you coach a witness during breaks at

a deposition or trial?

– Trial – it is clear you CANNOT talk to witness who is still “on the stand” during a break.

– Depositions – less clear • Most attorneys take position break conversations

are attorney-client privileged

• One case: depositions are like trial, and once the deposition begins, there should be no further questions which could taint the testimony

• Reality: attorneys are loathe to call other attorneys out (turnabout is fair play?)

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ABA Civil Discovery Standards Rule 18 – Conferring with the Witness

• An attorney should not initiate a private

conference with the deponent during the

deposition except to determine whether a

privilege should be asserted or to enforce a

court-ordered limitation on the scope of

discovery

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Deposition or Trial • What if another attorney has clearly

coached a witness during a break?

– Point out on the record a break was taken and the testimony changed shortly after the break

– Ruins witness credibility if there isn’t a good explanation

• Best practice:

– Stick to “atta boy” conversations during breaks

– Tell witnesses only what you would not mind them testifying to when they returned from break

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What objections can you make DURING

deposition?

• Check out your jurisdiction – some jurisdictions, you can only object as to form.

• ABA Civil Discovery Standards Rule 18 – – In objecting to or seeking to clarify a pending

question, an attorney for a deponent should not include any comment that coaches the witness or suggests an answer

• Typically can also object as to lack of foundation (any objection which can be cured at deposition) – Educate witness about listening to your objections

• Preservation depositions require trial objections

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Can you tell Witness to “pay attention” or

“don’t speculate” or ask for rephrasing of

question?

• Jurisdictional question – check your

jurisdiction

• Generally, polite dialogue is okay unless it

is clear you are suggesting answer to the

witness

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Witness Preparation Strategies:

Teresa Rider Bult, Constangy, Brooks & Smith, LLP

[email protected]

Coby Cohen, Knowledge Universe - U.S.

[email protected]

Pursuing Aggressive Advocacy and

Avoiding Ethical Violations