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    White settlers never stole any land from Africans:iLIVEHerman Griessel, Cape Town | 2011-07-11 12:45:58.0

    Black Africans never owned any land.Any form of formal ownership is aWestern concept. You cannot takesomething from somebody WHONEVER HAD IT. In fact, what is it thatwhite people, specifically white men,are supposed to "give back" to blackpeople?

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    Black Africans NEVER owned any land. Any

    form of formal ownership is a Western concept.

    The 'black' tribes of the mid 19th century

    haphazardly SETTLED in an ad hoc manner - effectively governed by

    tribal savagery, in other words, the most savage ruled the land (a bit

    like Hillbrow today). They simply ran away until they could not run

    anymore - not having ANY grasp of the concept of a horizon or for

    that matter any measure of finite land mass - eg the boundaries - thatis the fundamental concept of ownership.

    Who "disadvantaged" the 'black' people of the interior in Southern

    Africa before the (supposed) belligerent 'white' sett lers moved inland

    in the mid 19th century..? As certainly, what the 'settlers' found was

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    not a hugely advanced infrastructure, deep mines, airports, vast

    libraries of written works, grandiose institutions of learning, etc. No, as

    little as 170 years ago they found masses of black people

    (indigenous to the Southern tip of Africa, The San) living on the

    fringes of the stone age. Beings in skins, wielding sticks, living

    primitive dwellings, dragging and carrying things around, who had not

    even invented the wheel yet.

    Insert by Herman Griessel:- The San were the indigenous people of

    Southern Africa, if there needs to be any Land Reform it should be

    with the San, the rest of the Black African tribes as well as the White

    are and were all immigrants to Southern Africa, including Zimbabwe,

    and from other parts of the world and Northern Africa.

    The linguistic core of the Bantu family of languages, a branch of the

    Niger-Congo language family, was located in the region of modernCameroon and Eastern Nigeria. From this core, expansion began

    about three thousand years ago, with one stream going more or less

    east into East Africa, and other streams going south along the African

    coast of Gabon, Democratic Congo and Angola, or inland along the

    many south to north flowing rivers of the Congo River system. The

    expansion eventually reached South Africa probably as recently as

    300 A.D

    Ethiopia - a country that was NEVER colonised. Today one of the

    most desolate places on the planet - who "disadvantaged" the people

    of Ethiopia..?

    Put Zimbabwe and Germany next to each other and please explain

    the differences. In 1945 Germany was (for all intents and purposes) flattened to the ground and torn

    in half. Fifteen years later, West Germany was described as an "Economic Wonder". Around the

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    same time as the end of Apartheid, Germany was re-unified. It yanked the (unified) Germany back

    four centuries in time.

    Yet, in (around) fifteen years (for the second time in a few decades) it built an 'economic wonder' -

    today, fast becoming a global leader in almost every aspect. Reminder: a lineage very strongly

    associated with... WHITE AFRIKAANS SPEAKING people...

    Insert by Herman Griessel:- I am a third generation White South African semi retired Farmer, myGrandfather arrived in the Cape in 1895, having originated from Southern Bavaria Germany, and

    took part in the second Boer War (1899 1902), against the English off course. I disinvested in

    Agricultural Land in South Africa in 1994, 16 farms employing 2, 000 Black African people, I could

    see what was coming, and here it now is. Google my name Herman Griessel, and read my story of

    farming on the borders of Southern Africa from 1975 and onwards.

    On the 'flip side' - Zimbabwe - was handed one of the wealthiest countries in the WORLD (eg a

    currency that was worth more than the USA Dollar, etc) - what is it today..? Competing with Ethiopia

    to be the most desolate hell-hole on the planet..? Please explain...

    Quote from Ian Johnston an ex Rhodesian, has published a book Thru Thick n Thin, a must read,

    and who happens to be my neighbour:- Remember '' We won the land from the mosquitoes and the

    tsetse flies''

    And what he is implying here is that the White African Rhodesians, through the technology of the

    day, won back large tracts of land that was riddled with tsetse fly and Malaria, where before the

    Black African could not settle or graze their cattle, nothing was ever taken from them, in retrospect

    their very lives were enhanced and improved to the extreme in comparison.

    The below insert from just the other day March 2011, this is what Zimbabwe has come to, and no

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    You cannot take something from somebody WHO NEVER HAD IT..! In fact, what is it that white

    people, specifically white men, is supposed to "give back" to black people..? Can someone PLEASE,

    PLEASE, PLEASE explain to me what it is that white men took from blacks?

    Money, Capital and the pivotal mechanisms of the wealth that allows you to breathe, eat, have

    children, live a rather healthy productive and fulfilling life, but also allowed the cognitive

    development that leads to metropolitan development and infrastructure as we see it today - it is ALL

    of Western origins. In fact, the key advancements in modern finance and economics were made by

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