web 2.0 expo: show me the money (by jeremy liew)
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Its cheaper than ever to start an internet company
COST TO BUILD WEBSITE
200
7060
48
20
Wesabe Maya's Mom Mobissimo DropSend Freshbooks
$ 000s
Source: Carsonified.com/SXSW Presentation
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and cheaper than ever to run an internet company
Rent, Legal, etc$0.2mOther Costs
$1.4mTOTAL
$15k/month$0.2mInfrastructure Costs
8 employees$120k fully loaded
$1.0mStaff Costs
AssumptionsAnnual Fixed Costs
SAMPLE EXPENSE BUDGET
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As a result, getting to breakeven isnt too hard
0%-0%-EBITDA
3%2007%200Other Costs
3%2007%200
Infrastructure
Costs
14%1,00036%1,000Staff Costs
10%7000%-Marketing
70%4,90050%*1,400Cost of Goods
100%7,000100%2,800Revenue
%$ '000s%$ '000s
E-CommerceMedia
* Assumes ad sales by an ad network or ad rep firm
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but you still need to be big to be public
1.5x3.8x
12.2x
Low Median High
$333M
$131M
$41M
High Median Low
$833M
$277M$87M
High Median Low
MEDIA
E-COMMERCE
PUBLIC COMPANY 07 REV MULTIPLES REVENUE NEEDED FOR $500M EV
0.6x1.8x
5.7x
Low Median High
* Assumed minimum public company scale to sustain meaningful trading volume and analyst coverage
Source: Goldman Sachs Research, March 25, 2007, Lightspeed Analysis
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Significant variation in revenue targeted for internetcompanies to breakeven versus to be public
$277M$7.0M
$131M$2.8MMEDIA
E-COMMERCE
BREAKEVEN PUBLIC, $500M EV*
* Based on median multiples
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Media Companies
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Advertising RPMs* depend on your ability to deliver atargeted audience
Advertisng RPMs
Endemic
Advertising
Demographic
Broad Reach
600M
126B
524B
Annual
US PVs
$41.6750M$25M**Fandango
$1.0312B$150M**Facebook
$0.5244B$271MMyspace
RPM
March
US PVs2007RevenueExample
$10-40
$1-5
$0.50 - 2
** Facebook revenue estimate well over $100m, Fandango revenue estimated to be around $50m with half fromadvertising and half from ticketing
Source: Myspace, Merrill Lynch; Facebook, MSNBC; Fandango, Techcrunch; Traffic, Comscore; Lightspeed Analysis
* RPM = Revenue per thousand pageviews, taking into account multiple ad units and all forms of advertising: CPM, CPC and lead g
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To reach breakeven, US traffic requirements canbecome quite meaningful, depending on RPMs
$20
$5
$1
Endemic
Demo
Broad
12M
47M
233M
RPMPV/Mth to reach$2.8M in revenue
Sites with comparablUS Traffic
eHarmony 239MReal 237MWhitepages 230M
Tagged 229M
NFL.com 49MNextag 48MWashton Post 47MHeavy 45M
Technorati 12MWinAmp 12MUFC.com 12MDigg 11M
Source: Comscore, Lightspeed Analysis
Notnecessarily
Notnecessarily
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US traffic requirements are even higher to reach publiccompany levels
$20
$5
$1
Endemic
Demo
Broad
546M
2183M
10,917
M
RPMPV/Mth to reach$131M in revenue
MSN 13,672MGoogle 12,476MFacebook 12,179M
AOL 10,609M
Live.com 2,819MYoutube 2,539MGo.com 1,559MPogo 1,544M
MSNBC 592MExpedia 522MPaypal 495MWeather.com 488M
Source: Comscore, Lightspeed Analysis
Sites with comparableUS Traffic
Notnecessarily
Notnecessarily
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E-Commerce Companies
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Many e-commerce niches are large enough to support$7M in revenue, our illustrative breakeven level
Allheart.com nursing apparel
Figleaves.com lingerie
Hats.com hats
Ridegear.com motorcycle gear
Source: Internet Retailer Top 500 Guide, 2006 Edition
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There are three ways to get to over $271M in e-commerce revenues, public company type levels
One online store with >$271M in revenue
5-10 online stores, each with $25-50M in revenue
100+ online stores, each with up to $3M in average revenue
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Relatively few pure play e-commerce companies haveachieved over $271M in annual sales so far
$8,490M
$1,300M
$804M$688M
$399M
$345M
Below $271M in2005 butprojected over$271M in 2007
Amazon
Newegg
OverstockNetflix
Drugstore
Buy.com
Bluenile
Peapod
VistaPrint
2005 RevenueCompanyAmazon.com
Newegg.com
Source: Internet Retailer Top 500 Guide, 2006 Edition, Goldman Sachs
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In 2005, there were at least 227 companies with e-commercerevenues over $25M, but none with multiple websites in thisrange
Supplements
PC hardware
Auto partsShoes
Kitchen goods
Plumbing and
LightingBlinds
Womens clothing
Beauty Products
Products
$46M
$45M
$45M$44M
$40M
$39M
$38M
$34M
$32M
Bodybuilding.com
Computer Geeks
Parts TrainShoemall
Cooking.com
Decorative Product
SourceBlinds.com
Shopbop
Gloss.com
2005 RevenueCompany
Source: Internet Retailer Top 500 Guide, 2006 Edition
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A number of companies have taken a portfolioapproach, building large numbers of stores
bicycletrailers.com, highchairs.com,sparebed.com, suuntowatches.com,tric clekids.com
Niche Retail
Aquariumsdirect.com, croquet.com,daybeds.com, hammocks.com, justglobes.com,potracksgalore.com
Netshops
Pilates-exercise-direct.com,Rowingmachines.com, sofabed-store.com, tennis-ball-machine-guide.com
Mercantila
homeclick.com, absolutehome.com,barbeques.com, knobsandthings.com,poolclick.com
Home DcorProducts
adirondack-furniture-direct.com, allairbeds.com,bedrooms.com, csnbunkbeds.com, everysafe.com
CSN Stores
Sample Websites (not exhaustive)Company
Source: Internet Retailer Top 500 Guide, 2006 Edition, Company websites
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Conclusion
Easier than ever to start a consumer internet company
Not too hard to get to cash flow breakeven
For long term value creation, plan A cant be get bought
by Google Need to have a roadmap to be an independent public
company
Requires real scale
Revenue sometimes lags costs when you are growing May need venture capital to bridge the gap