using top-producer analysis to improve sales results
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Using Top-Producer Analysis to
Improve Sales Results
Mike Kunkle
Session TU218.
Tue, May 24 | 1:00 PM - 2:00 PM | 702/704
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Agenda
• What is Top-Producer Analysis?
• Why do it?
• How to do it?
• What to do with it?
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“Advice about how to figure out what’s
right for you, is better than advice
about what to do.”
~ Mike Kunkle
Hey, that’s me!
Final thought before we get started…
What is Top-Producer Analysis (TPA)?
• Defining “top sales producer”
• Defining “Top-Producer Analysis”
• How bad practice has undermined “best practices”
• The 5 Mistakes to avoid during TPA
• Some context – where TPA fits.
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Defining “Top Sales Producer”
My definition:
• A sales rep who has an acceptable blend of
the results, mindset, traits, knowledge, skills,
and behaviors that you want to replicate in
your sales force.
Consider:
• How the top 4% & 16% are different
• What criteria/KPIs/results matter most for the
future?
• Is the rep truly responsible for their results?
• Is what the rep does, replicable, repeatable
and trainable?
• Ask sales leadership to identify study
participants but validate with data.
Top 4%
Bottom 20%
Top 4%
Rest of Top 20% (16%)
Middle 60%
Above Average
Below Average
Average
Bottom 20%
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Defining “Top-Producer Analysis”
My definition:
• A study to determine the (mindset, traits,)
knowledge, skills, and behaviors that top-
producers possess, that differentiate them
from other sales reps.
Consider:
• Are you doing this for selection, training, or
both?
• Do you have enough participants for study
reliability and validity?
• Should you focus on the top 4% or the rest of
the top 20%? Or both?
• Do you have the ability to analyze/crunch
data or a resource who can?
Top 4%
Bottom 20%
Top 4%
Rest of Top 20% (16%)
Middle 60%
Above Average
Below Average
Average
Bottom 20%
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Best Practices vs. Top-Producer Practices
Some common concerns on “best”…
• “Best practices aren’t really ‘best’… they’re just good practices.”
• “Who determines whether something is best or not? Isn’t that
immediately invalid?”
• “I’ve never seen a best practices study amount to anything.”
• “I tried that at a previous company and it was a waste of time.” *
* Grrr…
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Best Practices vs. Top-Producer Practices
Why TPS is better than “best”
• Sales Utility Belt concept
• Sales Nuance is the new black
• Judgment is the superpower of selling skills.
Sales Judgment: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140816235048-834966-judgment-the-superpower-of-selling-skills
Sales Nuance: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-sales-nuances-why-you-should-care-mike-kunkle
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The 5 Mistakes of TPA
• Mistake 1: Studying the wrong “top reps” and therefore,
cloning the wrong behaviors
• Mistake 2: Ignoring differentiators, compared to average
producers (continue | stop | start)
• Mistake 3: Leaving out the Voice of the Customer
• Mistake 4: Forgetting “what to STOP doing”
• Mistake 5: Implementing the resulting training ineffectively.
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Sales Performer Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Selection
Performance Lever
Identification
Top-ProducerPractice
Capture & Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Training
Performance Lever
Alignment
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http://www.slideshare.net/MikeKunkle/aligning-performance-levers-for-breakthrough-sales-results-082011
How TPA Fits
Sales Performance Levers
• 6-Project Series
Performance Levers:• Critical competencies,
knowledge, skills, behaviorsand conditions which must be present for ethical, sustained, high-performance to occur.
Sales Performer Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Selection
Performance Lever
Identification
Top-ProducerPractice
Capture & Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Training
Performance Lever
Alignment
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Top-Producer Analysis
http://www.slideshare.net/MikeKunkle/aligning-performance-levers-for-breakthrough-sales-results-082011
How TPA Fits
Sales Performance Levers
• 6-Project Series
Performance Levers:• Critical competencies,
knowledge, skills, behaviorsand conditions which must be present for ethical, sustained, high-performance to occur.
Why Bother with TPA?
Primary Reasons
• More effective sales onboarding
• Better business outcomes
• The mythical and elusive Sales Training ROI.
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Sales onboarding: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141006015758-834966-sales-onboarding-twice-as-good-half-the-time
Why Bother? The Outcomes | Bottom-line Results
Yup, Real Examples:
• A $398MM revenue increase, $9.96MM net profit increase and a 400% ROI
• Increased sales/rep by 47% through changes in territory management &
sales coaching
• Improved average profitability/rep by 11% in 4 months
• Improved processing efficiency (order pull-through) by 16% in 6 months.
• Newly-hired 4-month employees outperformed a control group of 5-year
employees
• Increased sales/rep in the 3-months after training by 2.3 per month (average
revenue increase of $183K per class or $36.6MM in 12 months).
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Why Bother with TPA?
Value-Added Reasons:
• Improved relationship/credibility with Sales
• Land and expand strategy
• Buy-in for initiatives
• Helps at budget time
• Career impacts.
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Sales Performer Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Selection
Performance Lever
Identification
Top-ProducerPractice
Capture & Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Training
Performance Lever
Alignment
Sales Performer Analysis
Who to Study
• What is my performance criteria?
• What are my performer categories?
• Who is in which buckets?
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• WHAT: ‒ Identify top, average & low
producing sales reps.
‒ Identify top, average & low
producing sales managers.
• HOW:‒ Analyze a year of sales data &
create a weighted scoring system
across multiple metrics/products.
‒ Some discussion & surveys with
managers.
• WHY:‒ Provides a mix of performers to
study in various ways, to determine
true differentiating factors.
Example of Sales Metrics / Performance Criteria
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Metrics Quarterly Weighting *
Create a weighted scoring system…
# of Sales Med-High (2-3)
$ Volume Low (1)
Velocity Med (1-2)
Avg # Sales/Rep High (3-4)
Avg $ Vol/Rep Med-High (2-3)
Cross-Sell Percent Med (1-2)
* Review the last 12 months & the last quarter. Consider weighting the quarter more heavily. Blend the scores.
Example of Performer Categories
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Top New RepsNew = >30 days, <271 days
39Top = In the Top Quintile of all metrics
Top Seasoned RepsSeasoned = >365 days (many 5+ years)
307Top = In the Top Quintile of all metrics
Average Reps Selected randomly, between mean and median production 298
Low Producer Reps Selected randomly from the bottom 20% 348
Top SM Producers Top = In the Top Quintile of all metrics, personal production 15
Top SM TeamManagers
Top = Top Quintile all metrics, w/o SM results + survey of their Mgr 52
Top SM BothTop = In Top Producer group personally + Top Quintile all metrics w/o SM results + survey of their Mgr
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Average SM (Team) Selected randomly, between mean and median production 79
Low Performing SM (Team)
Selected randomly from the bottom 20% 32
Often “top” includes tiers:4% | 10% | 15% | 20%
n =
Example of Analysis – Sales Reps
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LowHigh4th QuartileMean Avg.Median
Sort DescendingHighlight 4th QuartileApply WeightingRepeat & Total
Highlight 4th Quartile
Consider things like:• Avg Productivity
‒ Avg # and $/rep/time period
• Engagement: % of team
producing and/or goal %/rep
• Total Team Sales: $ and #
• Avg Time to 1st Sale (new reps)
• Avg Time to productivity (new)
• Pipeline Stats:
‒ Conversion %
‒ Velocity
• Cross-sell Ratios or Penetration
• Trend Indicators (actual # last
month, avg/month over 13
weeks, avg/month past year)
• Survey Their Managers‒ Remove the “luck” factor
‒ Remove “inherited territory”
‒ Remove “one great rep.”
Example of Analysis – Sales Managers
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Data Crunch
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Partner with smart people with stats software to crunch data
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Sales Performer Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Selection
Performance Lever
Identification
Top-ProducerPractice
Capture & Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Training
Performance Lever
Alignment
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• WHAT: ‒ Identify the competencies, knowledge, skills,
behaviors and conditions that must exist for
ethical, sustained, high performance to occur.
‒ Formulate hypotheses about what the levers
are for frontline sales and sales management
roles.
‒ Confirm and validate the levers through
research.
• HOW:Through discussion, surveys, interviews,
focus groups, and observation of frontline
sales reps and their managers.
• WHY:This will confirm where to focus your efforts
capturing Top-Producer Practices, which
provides training/coaching content.
Performance Lever ID
What to Study
• What are the Performance Levers?
• What’s working?
• Why?
• How will you figure it out?
REMINDER: Performance Levers…• Critical competencies, knowledge, skills, behaviors and conditions which must be present
for ethical, sustained, high-performance to occur. http://www.slideshare.net/MikeKunkle/aligning-performance-levers-for-breakthrough-sales-results-082011
Formulating the Hypotheses
• Start with known practices
• Talk with:
– Executives
– Other leaders
– Frontline sales reps
– Frontline sales managers
– Sales operations, enablement, and other sales
support staff
– And, hopefully, customers
• Label the big buckets and detail the tasks
• Don’t get married – you’re just dating
• Build surveys to confirm the hypotheses.
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Identify the high-level Performance Levers (hypotheses)
Document the potential tasks for the Performance Lever
Ask what you’ve missed
Survey Design
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Survey Design
Clearly define Performance Lever
Define the role
Add instructions for completing the survey
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Survey Design• Rate the statement provided.
• How much do you agree it’s a Performance Lever?
• If rated 1-2, next question.
• If rated 3-5:
• Importance & Difficulty
• And in some cases:
• Frequency: Actual & Should
• In addition, you should ask what you missed, by Lever, and a handful of other questions – such as normal demographics & Continue | Start | Stop.
Using empathy statements to acknowledge a prospect’s situation/feelings
Survey Design
Look familiar?
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Partner with smart people with stats software to crunch data
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Sales Performer Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Selection
Performance Lever
Identification
Top-ProducerPractice
Capture & Analysis
Sales & Sales Manager Training
Performance Lever
Alignment
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TPA: Capture & Analysis
How to Study Them
• What separates the top from
others?
• What is replicable/trainable?
• How will I determine both?
• WHAT: Document the practices and
differentiating behaviors of top
performers, which can be replicated and
trained.
• HOW:Through discussion, interviews, focus
groups and observation of the frontline
sales reps and managers identified
during Sales Performer Analysis.
• WHY:To share practices broadly and
(re)design training around them.
Data Collection Methods
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• Interviews
– In-person, phone, web conference
• Focus Groups
– In-person, webinar
• Field Observation
– top performers (A)
– average (B+, B, B-)
– ninth decile (C/D, not new)
– top new reps (great ramp-up)
Getting the Straight Scoop• What really happens “out there”
• Account for the Hawthorne effect
• Trust, truth and strict confidentiality
• Autonomy, mastery and purpose *
* Thank you, Daniel Pink (author of Drive)
Now what?
How TPA feeds your…
• Effective Selling Systems
• Effective Learning Systems
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Effective Selling System• Ensure market and buyer persona
knowledge
• Align sales process to buying
process with decision/exit criteria
• Create buyer engagement content
that aligns with decision/exit criteria
• Use sales enablement tools to
manage, share, and track content
and improve sales efficiency and
effectiveness
• Use a buyer-oriented, consultative,
solution-focused, outcome-driven
sales methodology
• Train reps to engage buyers in
valuable business conversations and
to create real value and
differentiation, through their
customer, business, financial, and
solution acumen
• Use analytics to track training,
content, sales behavior, and
outcomes
Effective Learning System
Analytics
Buyer Personas
Buying Process &
Exit Criteria
Buyer Engagement
Content Creation
Sales Process &
Methodology
Sales Enablement
Technology
Market &
Business Acumen
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Effective Selling System• Ensure market and buyer persona
knowledge
• Align sales process to buying
process with decision/exit criteria
• Create buyer engagement content
that aligns with decision/exit criteria
• Use sales enablement tools to
manage, share, and track content
and improve sales efficiency and
effectiveness
• Use a buyer-oriented, consultative,
solution-focused, outcome-driven
sales methodology
• Train reps to engage buyers in
valuable business conversations and
to create real value and
differentiation, through their
customer, business, financial, and
solution acumen
• Use analytics to track training,
content, sales behavior, and
outcomes
Effective Learning System
Analytics
Buyer Personas
Buying Process &
Exit Criteria
Buyer Engagement
Content Creation
Sales Process &
Methodology
Sales Enablement
Technology
Market &
Business Acumen
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Effective Learning System
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• Ensure training content matters
• Design great learning (active,
blended/flipped learning)
• Engage sales managers
• Sustain knowledge/transfer skills
• Coach to mastery
• Measure learning and
performance
• Manage performance
• Lead and manage change
Training Content
Design
Managers
Transfer
Coaching
Measures
Perf. Mgt.
Integration Alignment
Change
http://www.mikekunkle.com/2014/07/30/stop-wasting-money-on-sales-training/
Effective Learning System
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• Ensure training content matters
• Design great learning (active,
blended/flipped learning)
• Engage sales managers
• Sustain knowledge/transfer skills
• Coach to mastery
• Measure learning and
performance
• Manage performance
• Lead and manage change
Training Content
Design
Managers
Transfer
Coaching
Measures
Perf. Mgt.
Integration Alignment
Change
http://www.mikekunkle.com/2014/07/30/stop-wasting-money-on-sales-training/
Using Top-Producer Analysis to Improve Sales Results – Mike Kunkle 2016
Mike is a training and organization effectiveness
leader with special expertise in sales force
transformation
• After his initial years on the frontline in sales and sales
management, he spent the next 21 years as a corporate
manager or consultant, leading departments and projects
with one purpose – improve sales results.
• Today, in his role at Brainshark, Mike uses his in expertise
in best-in-class learning strategies, methods, processes,
and change leadership to develop the capabilities of sales
representatives and sales managers to drive business
results.
• Mike freely shares his own sales transformation
methodology, speaking at conferences and writing online
(see examples) and can be reached on various social
media sites.
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Let’s Connect!
About Mike Kunkle
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About
Brainshark is a leading sales enablement company that helps businesses harness the power of
content to drive sales productivity.
With Brainshark, companies can:
• TRAIN: Prepare sales teams with on-demand training that accelerates onboarding and keeps
existing reps up-to-speed and in-the-know
• COACH: Hone performance with sales coaching that ensures reps make the most of every
buyer interaction
• ENGAGE: Empower salespeople with dynamic content that can be created quickly, imported
easily and accessed anywhere
• arm reps with the right content and resources for any selling situation to better engage buyers
and close more deals.
• ANALYZE: Brainshark analytics enable organizations to track sales content effectiveness and
make smarter decisions that drive results.
Thousands of companies – including more than half of the Fortune 100 – rely on Brainshark to
improve sales productivity and increase the impact of their sales, marketing, and training. Learn
more at www.brainshark.com
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Links
Throughout this deck:• This deck on SlideShare: http://bit.ly/mkatd2016
• Sales Nuances: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-sales-nuances-why-you-should-care-mike-kunkle
• Sales Judgment: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140816235048-834966-judgment-the-superpower-of-selling-skills
• Aligning Performance Levers: http://www.slideshare.net/MikeKunkle/aligning-performance-levers-for-breakthrough-sales-
results-082011
• Sales Onboarding: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141006015758-834966-sales-onboarding-twice-as-good-half-the-time
• Hawthorne Effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect
• Drive (Dan Pink’s book): http://www.danpink.com/drive
• Effective Learning Systems: http://www.mikekunkle.com/2014/07/30/stop-wasting-money-on-sales-training/
About Top-Producer Analysis:• http://www.mikekunkle.com/2013/03/17/how-to-increase-sales-with-top-producer-practices-part1/
• http://www.mikekunkle.com/2013/03/20/how-to-increase-sales-with-top-producer-research-part-2/
• http://blogs.richardson.com/2013/08/05/which-top-producers-should-you-study-to-develop-sales-training-programs/
• http://www.insightsquared.com/2015/08/performance-lever-sales-ops/
• http://blog.hubspot.com/sales/sales-methodology-magic-or-madness
• https://www.td.org/Publications/Blogs/Sales-Enablement-Blog/2014/04/Improve-Sales-Performance-with-22Nd-Century-Selling-
Skills