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University user perspectives of the ideal computing environment and SLAC’s role Bill Lockman Outline: View of the ideal computing environment ATLAS Computing Structure T3 types and comparisons Scorecard

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Page 1: University user perspectives of the ideal computing environment and SLAC’s role

University user perspectives of the ideal computing environment and

SLAC’s role

Bill Lockman

Outline:

View of the ideal computing environmentATLAS Computing StructureT3 types and comparisonsScorecard

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My view of the ideal computing environment

Full system support by a dedicated professional• hardware and software (OS and file system)

High bandwidth access to the data at desired level of detail• e.g., ESD, AOD, summary data and conditions data

Access to all relevant ATLAS software and grid services

Access to compute cycles equivalent to purchased hardware

Access to additional burst cycles

Access to ATLAS software support when needed

Conversationally close to those in same working group• Preferentially face to face

July 17, 2009 SLUO/LHC workshop Computing Session Bill Lockman 2

These are my views, derived from discussions with Jason Nielsen, Terry Schalk UCSC),Jim Cochran (Iowa State), Anyes Taffard (UCI), Ray Frey, Eric Torrence (Oregon),

Gordon Watts (Washington), Richard Mount, Charlie Young (SLAC)

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ATLAS Computing Structure

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•ATLAS world-wide tiered computing structure where ~30 TB of raw data/day from ATLAS is reconstructed, reduced and distributed to the end user for analysis

•T0: CERN

•T1: 10 centers world wide. US: BNL. No end user analysis.

•T2: some end-user analysis capability @ 5 US Centers, 1 located @ SLAC

•T3: end user analysis @ universities and some national labs.

•See ATLAS T3 report:http://www.pa.msu.edu/~brock/file_sharing/T3TaskForce//final/TierThree_v1_executiveFinal.pdf

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Data Formats in ATLAS

July 17, 2009 SLUO/LHC workshop Computing Session Bill Lockman

Format Size(MB)/evt

RAW - data output from DAQ (streamed on trigger bits) 1.6

ESD - event summary data: reco info + most RAW 0.5

AOD - analysis object data: summary of ESD data 0.15

TAG - event level metadata with pointers to data files 0.001

Derived Physics Data

~25 kb/event

~30 kb/event

~5 kb/event

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Possible data reduction chain

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(possible scenario for “mature” phase of ATLAS experiment)

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T3g

T3g: Tier3 with grid connectivity (a typical university-based system):

• Tower or rack-based• Interactive nodes• Batch system with worker nodes• Atlas code available (in kit releases)• ATLAS DDM client tools available to

fetch data (currently dq2-ls, dq2-get)• Can submit grid jobs • Data Storage located on worker

nodes or dedicated file servers• Possible activities: detector studies from ESD/pDPD, physics/validation

studies from D3PD, fast MC, CPU intensive matrix element calculations, ...

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A university-based ATLAS T3g

• Local computing a key to producing physics results quickly from reduced datasets

• Analyses/streams of interest at the typical university:

• CPU and storage needed for first 2 years:

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performance ESD/pDPD at T2

# analyses

e-gamma 1

W/Z(e) 2

W/Z() 2

minbias 1

physics stream(AOD/D1PD) at T2

#analyses

e-gamma 2

muon 1

jet/missEt 1

components

160 cores

70 TB

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A university-based ATLAS T3g

Requirements matched by a rack-based system from T3 report:

The university has a 10 Gb/s network to the outside. Group will locate the T3g near campus switch and interface directly to it

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10 KW heat320 kSI2K processing

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Tier3 AF (Analysis Facility)

Two sites expressed interest and have set up prototypes• BNL: Interactive nodes, batch cluster, Proof cluster• SLAC: Interactive nodes and batch cluster

T3AF – University groups can contribute funds / hardware• Groups are granted priority access to resources they purchased• Purchase batch slots• Remaining ATLAS may use resources when not in use by owners

SLAC-specific case:• Details covered in Richard Mount’s talk

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University T3 vs. T3AF

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Site: Advantages: Disadvantages:

University •Cooling, power, space usually provided•Control over use of resources•More freedom to innovate/experiment•Dedicated CPU resource•Potential matching funds from university

•Limited cooling, power, space and funds to scale acquisition in future years

•Support not 24/7, not professional. Cost may be comparable to that at T3AF

•Limited networking and networking support

•Access to databases•No surge capability

T3AF •24/7 hardware and software support (mostly professional)

•Shared space for code, data (AOD)•Excellent access to ATLAS data and databases

•Fair share mechanism to allow universities to use what they contributed

•Better network security•ATLAS release installation provided

•A yearly buy in cost•Less freedom to innovate/experiment by university

•Must share some cycles

Some groups will site disks and/or worker nodes at T3AF, interactive nodes at university

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Qualitative score card

University T3g T3AF

Full system support by a dedicated professional no generally yes

High bandwidth access to the data at desired level of detail variable good

Access to all relevant ATLAS software and grid services variable yes

Access to compute cycles equivalent to purchased hardware yes yes

Access to additional burst cycles (e.g., crunch time analysis) generally not yes

Access to ATLAS software support when needed generally yes yes

Cost (hardware, infrastructure) some being negotiated

being negotiated

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•Cost is probably the driving factor in hardware site decision•hybrid options are also possible

A T3AF at SLAC will be an important option for university groups considering a T3

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