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Page 1: U73611 Issues in Contemporary Religion Week Five: Religion and Science andyletcher@brookes.ac.uk Week Five: Religion and Science andyletcher@brookes.ac.uk

U73611 Issues in Contemporary Religion

U73611 Issues in Contemporary Religion

Week Five: Religion and Science

[email protected]

Week Five: Religion and Science

[email protected]

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What have religion and science to do with one another?

Aren’t they concerned with very different things?

What have religion and science to do with one another?

Aren’t they concerned with very different things?

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ReligionReligion

Scripture, tradition, rituals Community, identity Moral values, spirituality

Scripture, tradition, rituals Community, identity Moral values, spirituality

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ScienceScience

Elite, educated, professional activity Using maths and technology Undertaken by small numbers of people Aims to discover the true nature of the

universe

Elite, educated, professional activity Using maths and technology Undertaken by small numbers of people Aims to discover the true nature of the

universe

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ButBut

Both religion and science share an interest in fundamental questions about nature of physical universe

And about human nature

Both religion and science share an interest in fundamental questions about nature of physical universe

And about human nature

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When we talk about religion and science

When we talk about religion and science

We are mostly talking about Christianity

We are mostly talking about Christianity

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Most popular metaphorMost popular metaphor

Battle which science has won Battle which science has won

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eg Galileoeg Galileo

Condemned by RCC 17th C Bible taught that earth was stationary Copernicus - the sun is stationary Heresy - how can an omniscient God

have got the Bible wrong?

Condemned by RCC 17th C Bible taught that earth was stationary Copernicus - the sun is stationary Heresy - how can an omniscient God

have got the Bible wrong?

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Moments in the ‘war’Moments in the ‘war’

Galileo vs the Church Darwinism vs Creationism Bible vs Science Superstition vs Rationality Dogma vs Empiricism

Galileo vs the Church Darwinism vs Creationism Bible vs Science Superstition vs Rationality Dogma vs Empiricism

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Too simplisticToo simplistic

History shows there were other factors at stake

History shows there were other factors at stake

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Alister McGrathAlister McGrath

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Was a molecular biophysicist Now a theologian

Was a molecular biophysicist Now a theologian

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John PolkinghorneJohn Polkinghorne

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Physicist turned Anglican priest Physicist turned Anglican priest

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Dialogue?Dialogue?

Tends to be one-sided Tends to neglect the plurality of both

science and religion Ignores that it is largely about

Christianity

Tends to be one-sided Tends to neglect the plurality of both

science and religion Ignores that it is largely about

Christianity

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John Hedley Brooke (1991)John Hedley Brooke (1991)

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History of the relationship between religion and science is extremely complex

Metaphors such as battle, bridges etc don’t cut it

There is no such thing as the relationship between religion and science

History of the relationship between religion and science is extremely complex

Metaphors such as battle, bridges etc don’t cut it

There is no such thing as the relationship between religion and science

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The complexity thesis dominates scholarly thought

Let us return to Galileo

The complexity thesis dominates scholarly thought

Let us return to Galileo

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1) Theological conflict1) Theological conflict

Should clergy only interpret scriptures? Laypersons? If passages conflicted with scientific

knowledge then they should be read figuratively - according to Galileo

Sensitive issue because of Reformation

Should clergy only interpret scriptures? Laypersons? If passages conflicted with scientific

knowledge then they should be read figuratively - according to Galileo

Sensitive issue because of Reformation

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2) Scientific conflict2) Scientific conflict

Between Aristotelean/Ptolomeic and Copernican views

Between Aristotelean/Ptolomeic and Copernican views

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3) Philosophical conflict3) Philosophical conflict

Is Copernican system just a useful way of making calculations

Or is it a true picture of how the world actually is?

Is Copernican system just a useful way of making calculations

Or is it a true picture of how the world actually is?

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4) Political conflict4) Political conflict

Between those who supported Galileo as a person

And those who thought him arrogant, untrustworthy and in need of reigning in

Between those who supported Galileo as a person

And those who thought him arrogant, untrustworthy and in need of reigning in

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Huxley vs WilberforceHuxley vs Wilberforce

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Debated Darwin in 1860Debated Darwin in 1860

Bishop of Oxford asked Huxley if he was an ape on the side of his grandfather or grandmother

Huxley replied he’d rather be descended from an ape than a bishop, especially one blocking progress of science

Bishop of Oxford asked Huxley if he was an ape on the side of his grandfather or grandmother

Huxley replied he’d rather be descended from an ape than a bishop, especially one blocking progress of science

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But more complexBut more complex

Liberal theologians had no problem with Darwin

Others saw Darwinism as atheism Scientists felt there was insufficient

evidence to support Darwin Philosophers unsure whether Darwin

had used induction correctly

Liberal theologians had no problem with Darwin

Others saw Darwinism as atheism Scientists felt there was insufficient

evidence to support Darwin Philosophers unsure whether Darwin

had used induction correctly

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Even today issues are complex

Even today issues are complex

Role of religion in politics Teaching of religion and science in

schools Advancement of Prof. Dawkins own

career? Dawkins own religious upbringing?

Role of religion in politics Teaching of religion and science in

schools Advancement of Prof. Dawkins own

career? Dawkins own religious upbringing?

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To what extent are science and religion rational?

To what extent are science and religion rational?

Caricature: science based on facts; religion is wish-fulfillment

Science based on evidence; religion on blind faith

Scientists are objective; religionists subject to emotions

Caricature: science based on facts; religion is wish-fulfillment

Science based on evidence; religion on blind faith

Scientists are objective; religionists subject to emotions

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Responses to this caricatureResponses to this caricature

Talking down science Talking up religion

Talking down science Talking up religion

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Talking science downTalking science down

Science may not be quite the detached, objective pursuit it claims to be

Observations are theory-laden

Science may not be quite the detached, objective pursuit it claims to be

Observations are theory-laden

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Talking religion upTalking religion up

Theology is not unlike a sci discipline It makes inferences from the observable

to the unobservable It deploys metaphors just as scientists

do Has a set of hard-core theoretical

assumptions surrounded by more flexible auxiliary hypotheses

Theology is not unlike a sci discipline It makes inferences from the observable

to the unobservable It deploys metaphors just as scientists

do Has a set of hard-core theoretical

assumptions surrounded by more flexible auxiliary hypotheses

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Together these strategies cancel each other out!

One questions the superior rationality of science, the other apes it

Together these strategies cancel each other out!

One questions the superior rationality of science, the other apes it

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God of the gapsGod of the gaps

Perhaps we can locate God in the gaps in scientific knowledge

But if those gaps are closed, where does that leave theism?

Perhaps we can locate God in the gaps in scientific knowledge

But if those gaps are closed, where does that leave theism?

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Ethics and politicsEthics and politics

Both science and religion offer salvation

ie science is often justified for its utilitarian ends

Religious people are often the first to question the ethics of science

Science is often funded by big business, arms companies etc - ethics?

Both science and religion offer salvation

ie science is often justified for its utilitarian ends

Religious people are often the first to question the ethics of science

Science is often funded by big business, arms companies etc - ethics?

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SeminarSeminar

Where does modern science leave the concept of a soul?

Where does modern science leave the concept of a soul?