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Copyright ® Siemens Power Generation, Inc. 2007. All rights reserved.

The Challenge for ODS Materials:An Industrial Gas Turbine Perspective.

Allister JamesSiemens Energy, Inc.

The content of this presentation is copyrighted by Siemens Energy, Inc.. Any inquiries regarding permission to use the content of this paper, in whole or in part, for any purpose must be addressed to Siemens Energy, Inc.

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Drivers & Requirements for Industrial Gas Turbines

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Cost• First cost• Life cycle cost • Operation cost

Performance• Plant power• Plant efficiency

Capabilities• Emissions• Operational flexibility• Regulatory compliance• Upgradeability• Reliability, availability• Time-to-market

Business drivers/Customer requirements

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The Potential of ODS Materials

Source: Plansee

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The Message (from the Materials Engineer)

ODS alloys exhibit excellent oxidation and corrosion resistance, along with outstanding creep resistance at temperatures of up to 1300 °C

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The Interpretation (by the Design Engineer)

ODS alloys are expensive

ODS alloy have poor properties (exceptoxidation, corrosion & creep resistance).

ODS alloys are difficult to manufacture

ODS alloys can not be repaired

“The first thing you hear about a new material is always the best”

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The Design Perspective

Wherever possible, a Designer will use an existing validated alloy in preference to new material.

Minimize risk: experience, current design philosophyMinimize lead time: existing materials properties databaseLowest cost: existing materials properties database

Will consider a new material only once the other alternatives have been explored and exhausted.

CoatingsCooling scheme (geometry, film cooling, etc.)Other conventional alloysAdditional cooling, etc.

Don’t under estimate the “The Comfort Factor”

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The Chicken and the Egg

What drives the successful introduction of a new material into the gas turbine?

The availability of a new material (the egg), or

The component design (the chicken)

“Technology Push” versus “Technology Pull”

What Drives the Introduction of a New Material?

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Integrated Approach

Advanced Materials & Coatings Systems

Advanced Manufacturing Technologies

Advanced Designs

Innovative Manufacturing Technology: Bridging the Gap

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Manufacturing & Supply Considerations

Material costMaterial availability: Ability to source locally on globally basisSole Source Concerns:

Lack of competition (price)Stability – labor disputes, political issues, etc.Acts of God – fire, severe weather, earthquakes, etc.

Manufacturing base: experienced vendors (e.g. machining, joining)Inspection:

Non Destructive Inspection Acceptance criteria – composition, mechanical, microstructure

Vendor qualification and surveillanceCompatibility with other materials – CTE; joining; wearRe-work and non-conformance – scrap rates

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The Future for ODS Alloys

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Critical Questions for ODS Implementation

What can you do?Develop components or sub-components that take advantage of the attributes of ODS alloys.

By when?Good question – commercial availability of ODS alloys?

What difference will it make?Greatly improved materials system performance: 5x increase in TBC spallation life compared with SOA gamma prime strengthen superalloys

What makes you think that you can do it?Modular component design Additive manufacturing technologies

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Addresses manufacturing limitations

“Expensive” manufacturing processes maybe cost effective for smaller sub-components

The individual sub-components / segments can be offered with different properties to match specific componentsection needs (leading edge, airfoil tip etc.)

Advanced but costly materials could be selectively used where they are needed, or where specific disadvantages do not limit their use.

Rapid prototyping: an individual section of the part can be redesigned or upgraded to fulfill a specific need.

Reduced fall-out rates after service: Repair of blades / vanes by sub-component replacement may be possible.

Modular Component Design: Potential Advantages

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Challenges of Modular Components

Joining of dissimilar materials

Differences in thermal expansion

Cooling air leakage

Wear at interfaces

Fit-up of individual parts – machining tolerance

Additional manufacturing operations

Development and qualification of vendor base

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Key Success Factors

Concurrent Engineering Approach

Materials EngineeringAdequate materials data for preliminary designValidated properties for final designMaterials system benefits

Design EngineeringTangible benefit: balance risk with rewardAppropriate design and lifing rules

ManufacturingGuaranteed supply baseRobust processes: Quality; on-time delivery

ServiceQualified repair processes

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Thank you

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Allister JamesMaterials Core Competence Owner Phone: +1 407 736 7206Email: [email protected]

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