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Szebelédi Ferenc: Some challenges of the Hungarian pension system in the EU . Sofia, 16-17 February, 2005. 1. Structure of the Hungarian pension system. 2. Pillar I. issues. Traditional PAYG social security system 1408/71 Reg Calculation rules (pro rata and theoretical benefits) - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: Szebelédi Ferenc: Some challenges of the Hungarian pension system in the EU 

Szebelédi Ferenc:Some challenges of the Some challenges of the

Hungarian pension system in Hungarian pension system in the EU the EU 

Sofia, 16-17 February, 2005

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1. Structure of the Hungarian pension 1. Structure of the Hungarian pension systemsystem

Usually in the EU Hungary Major relevant EU legislation

Pillar I.: Social security system (PAYG)

Pillar I: Social security system (PAYG)

1408/71 Reg.(=883/2003. Reg) „Coordination Regulation”

Pillar II: Mandatory pension funds „magánnyugdíjpénztár”

1408/71 Reg.(=883/2003. Reg)

Pillar II. Occupational pension schemes

- 1998/49 Dir2003/41 „IORP” Dir

Pillar III. Individual pension schemes

Pillar III: Voluntary Individual pension schemes„önkéntes nyugdíjpénztár”

1998/49 Dir

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2. Pillar I. issues2. Pillar I. issues

Traditional PAYG social security system 1408/71 Reg • Calculation rules (pro rata and

theoretical benefits) • Coordination and clearing rules

→Little experience, seems not to have serious problems

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3. Pillar II: Mandatory pension funds3. Pillar II: Mandatory pension funds

Under the scope of Reg. 1408/71 (which has PAYG logic)

Main challenges: 1) Theoretical benefits→ funded systems are not able to manage

theoretical benefits

2) Coordination among state competent institutions, clearing systems

→ pension funds are private insitutions: coordination mechanism and clearing system are not

applicable

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4. Pillar III.: voluntary schemes4. Pillar III.: voluntary schemes

Voluntary individual pension funds„Önkéntes nyugdíjpénztár”

Under of scope 1998/49 Dir

→Seems not to have major problems

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5. Occupational schemes:5. Occupational schemes:Challenges regarding the 2003/41 Dir. Challenges regarding the 2003/41 Dir.

– 1.– 1.41/2003. Dir is applied for occupational pension

schemes

- Home state: - rules for the activies of IORPs - supervision

- Host state: - make it possible to pay contribution to an

IORP - giving information about social and labour

law - limited supervision

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6. Occupational schemes:6. Occupational schemes:Challenges regarding the 2003/41 Dir Challenges regarding the 2003/41 Dir

- 2- 2..

Hungary as Home state:

→ It seems, that Hungary has no occupational schemes, so there is no need to deal with regulation for IORPs

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7. Occupational schemes:7. Occupational schemes:Challenges regarding the 2003/41 Dir Challenges regarding the 2003/41 Dir

- 3.- 3.

Hungary as host state:• Have to make it possible for Hungarian undertakings

to sponsor IORP– possible tax problems

• Have to determine Hungarian social and labour law relevant to occupational pension

– Hungary has no specific regulations• Investment rules, other options

– seems not to have any problem• Have to determine procedure for the notification

process – task of CEIOPS WGOP

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ConclusionsConclusions• Pillar I. Little experience, no serious problems• Pillar II. No experience at all, major

challenges: - theoretical benefits - coordination and clearing system among competent institutions

• Pillar III: Seems not to have major problems• Occupational pensions: difficulties because of

the lack of occupational pillar

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Conclusions – 2.Conclusions – 2.

→Mentioned challenges are not only the problems of Hungary

→EU regulations and directives do not cover all existing pensions schemes

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