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Page 1: Suspension D.J. Conroy. Last year Designed with existing frame Did not use suspension analysis programming A-arms not easily adjustable Hard to assemble

Suspension

D.J. Conroy

Page 2: Suspension D.J. Conroy. Last year Designed with existing frame Did not use suspension analysis programming A-arms not easily adjustable Hard to assemble

Last year

• Designed with existing frame

• Did not use suspension analysis programming

• A-arms not easily adjustable

• Hard to assemble

Page 3: Suspension D.J. Conroy. Last year Designed with existing frame Did not use suspension analysis programming A-arms not easily adjustable Hard to assemble

This year

• Design frame around suspension

• Find optimum geometry using Lotus

• Make adjustment, machining, and assembly much easier

Page 4: Suspension D.J. Conroy. Last year Designed with existing frame Did not use suspension analysis programming A-arms not easily adjustable Hard to assemble

Geometry

• Analyzed using lotus software• Mounting points dictate much of the frame

layout

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DifferentSet-ups

Page 6: Suspension D.J. Conroy. Last year Designed with existing frame Did not use suspension analysis programming A-arms not easily adjustable Hard to assemble

Most Important Aspects• Castor

• Toe

• Camber

• Roll center height

Page 7: Suspension D.J. Conroy. Last year Designed with existing frame Did not use suspension analysis programming A-arms not easily adjustable Hard to assemble

Optimum Settings• -1° camber (static)– 1° change per inch bump/droop

• Front toe– -1° toe in static (positive with lotus sign convention)– Minimal change in bump/droop

• 5° of castor– Minimal change in bump/droop

• Roll center height of about 2 in– Stay positive through bump/droop

• Converging A-arms

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Mounting lower than 6in. (2in. shown)

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6in. pentagon

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Page 11: Suspension D.J. Conroy. Last year Designed with existing frame Did not use suspension analysis programming A-arms not easily adjustable Hard to assemble
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Pentagon Specs:

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6in. octagon

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Page 16: Suspension D.J. Conroy. Last year Designed with existing frame Did not use suspension analysis programming A-arms not easily adjustable Hard to assemble
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Frame sketch

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Octagon Specs:

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Octagon vs. Pentagon

• Advantages:– Lower and shorter (from bottom to top of frame)– Lower COG– Don’t need to worry about a raised front end– Better mounting of steering rack• Much less bump steer

• Disadvantages:– Heavier– More frame members

Page 21: Suspension D.J. Conroy. Last year Designed with existing frame Did not use suspension analysis programming A-arms not easily adjustable Hard to assemble

My opinion:

• The couple extra frame members and 5 lbs max additional un-sprung weight is worth it to have a much lower center of gravity and much less bump steer.

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A arm Dimensions • Upper:– Forward arm 15.08in– Trailing arm 14.70in– Difference: .38in– Angle: 51.7°

• Lower:– Forward arm: 15.73in– Trailing arm: 16.09in– Difference: .36in– Angle: 48.2°

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Materials

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Manufacturing and Assembly

• Rod ends with built in spacers• Mill push rod mounts• Use steel or carbon fiber rods• Jig:– Accurate – 3 points– Could use mill table

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Adjustability

• Exposed outer rod end:

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Forces on Wheel

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A-Arm Forces

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• Breaking:– tyre: 217.7 lb– Top arm: 114.3 lb– Bottom arm: 332 lb

• Verticle:– tyre: 580.6 lb– Top arm: 290 lb– Bottom arm: 290lb

• Lateral: – Tyre: 290.3 lb– Top arm: 152.4 lb– Bottom arm: 442.7 lb