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ACED ANNUAL CONFERENCE 2013 STUDENT EXPECTATIONS Mohammad Bilal University of Birmingham STUDENT EXPECTATIONS Mohammad Bilal (4 th Year MEng) Chair – Staff Student Committee School of Civil Engineering, University of Birmingham

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Page 1: STUDENT EXPECTATIONS - University of Birmingham · 2019-02-13 · EXPECTATIONS: BEFORE STARTING THE COURSE “Didn't know what to make of group projects prior to course - retrospectively

ACED ANNUAL CONFERENCE 2013

STUDENT EXPECTATIONS

Mohammad Bilal University of Birmingham

STUDENT EXPECTATIONS

Mohammad Bilal (4th Year MEng)

Chair – Staff Student Committee

School of Civil Engineering, University of Birmingham

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EXPECTATIONS:BEFORE STARTING THE COURSE

“Thought I'd do loads of CAD”

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EXPECTATIONS:BEFORE STARTING THE COURSE

“Thought I'd be doing a lot of building andstructure design. Didn’t really know about

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structure design. Didn’t really know aboutthe geotechnical or water engineering(which I’ve ended up enjoying more).”

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EXPECTATIONS:BEFORE STARTING THE COURSE

“Didn't know what to make of group projectsprior to course - retrospectively they have

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prior to course - retrospectively they havebeen the most beneficial bits. Have learntloads though them, and while sometimesstressful also enjoyed them.”

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EXPECTATIONS:BEFORE STARTING THE COURSE

“Thought that once I was finished I would beable to look at a structure and tell if it was

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able to look at a structure and tell if it wasgoing to fail and how. (e.g. in Prison Breakwhen Scofield notices the tunnel they dugunder Panama Jail would collapse becauseof the rain the day before)”

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EXPECTATIONS:BEFORE STARTING THE COURSE

“Thought it’d be easy to get work placements and internships.”

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placements and internships.”

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EXPECTATIONS:BEFORE STARTING THE COURSE

“Thought there would be loads of theory andcalculations. The amount of group work has

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calculations. The amount of group work hasbeen a pleasant surprise.”

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EXPECTATIONS:BEFORE STARTING THE COURSE

“I think I was expecting a bit more practicalwork like Constructionarium. Obviously not

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work like Constructionarium. Obviously notthe same scale but to have only had anoptional week of that and then a weeksurveying isn't much.”

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CHANGES IN EXPECTATIONS:

“Realised that civil engineering is a lot moreabout competency of following guidelines

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about competency of following guidelinesrather than individual creative thinking.Realised this about half way through coursewhen many design projects just involvedfollowing EuroCodes.”

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CHANGES IN EXPECTATIONS:

“Didn’t think reports would be as importantas they are within industry.”

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as they are within industry.”

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CHANGES IN EXPECTATIONS:

“Now that we know the basics, I wouldexpect to be taught things tailored towardsthe workplace - especially dealing with the

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cutting edge, for instance at work things likegeosynthetics are prevalent, and in drainageSuDS are all the rage but to be able toinnovate with them and be creative at work Ineed to know now.”

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CHANGES IN EXPECTATIONS:

“Expecting more guidance on choosing adiscipline as a career. The more I look themore there seems to be out there!”

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SUMMARY:PRIOR EXPECTATIONS

• Expected to be taught (rather than learn)

• Overestimated graduate competence

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• Expected more hands-on

• Weren’t aware of the number of soft skillsthat would be learnt

• Unaware of the breadth of the discipline

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SUMMARY:THE TRANSITION PHASE

• Spending time in industry

• Maturing as a person and developingspecific academic interests

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specific academic interests

• Deciding upon a sector

• Deciding to work outside engineering

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SUMMARY:NEW/CONTINOUS EXPECTATIONS

• Critical feedback

• Impactive practical work

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• “Cutting edge” knowledge

• Career guidance

• Clear communication

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Thank you for listening.

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