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Ryoko ‘maro’ NAKANISHI 1 Panel Discussion Panel Discussion Service Migration in Ipv4/IPv6 Service Migration in Ipv4/IPv6 Co-exsiting environment Co-exsiting environment What we should do? What we should do? Translated by Akira Kato

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Page 1: Ryoko ‘maro’ NAKANISHI 1 Panel Discussion 『 Service Migration in Ipv4/IPv6 Co- exsiting environment What we should do? 』 Translated by Akira Kato

Ryoko ‘maro’ NAKANISHI

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Panel DiscussionPanel Discussion『『 Service Migration in Ipv4/IPv6 Co-Service Migration in Ipv4/IPv6 Co-exsiting environment exsiting environment                  What we should do?What we should do?』』

Translated by Akira Kato

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In a morning, there was an Oracle:

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Are you ready for Are you ready for 

IPv6 service?IPv6 service?

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Introduction

• Only a few years to IPv4 address depletion– Situation is getting serious– It is a matter of time that Ipv4 address

depletion happens.

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Is the problem only addr depletion?• Such problem has not been shared with

anybody other than L3 people– Too late to start something when IPv4

address space is once depleted

• Only a few providers provide IPv6 service– Especially datacenter operators

• Operational experience on IPv4/v6 co-exisitng environment? – Not only dual-stack is a solution

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…ということで プロローグ

•小人たちは集まります– Webサービスを提供するホスティング事業者は IPv6に対応できるか?を検討する•何が必要か•何に苦労するのか•ガッカリすることはなんだろう?•小人たちは IPv6にウットリできるんだろうか?

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A scroll of Adventure

(1) First bake-off(1) First bake-off

(2) Second bake-off(2) Second bake-off

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First Bake-off

• Dwarves try it first– Does currently established technology

make IPv6 to follow IPv4's footsteps?•What is the key of network

confiugration?•Does it work at all?

– Any problem in service migration?•Is the migration an easy task?

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Design -1st stage-

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ADSL modem Existing BB Router

Additional BB Router

IPv4 test environment

IPv6 test environment

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Second Bake-off

• The dwarves tries again– How IPv4/v6 translation works?– Is it possible to monitor IPv4/v6 ?– Make the toplogy more realistic– Communication test from an IPv6 only

client to an IPv4 server – How problems detected in IPv6

environment?

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Design -2nd stage-

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The dwarves got Level up !

The dwarves got Level up !

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The results...

• The second bake-off didn't completed smoothly– Number of dungeons (like blackhomes)

around the clients– Many bugs in server-side– Monsters generated when dual stack

enabled– A cursed spells called “Specification”

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A scroll of knowledges

(1) A sage says(1) A sage says    「    「What problems are there around What problems are there around the client?the client?」」(2) Amage said(2) Amage said    「    「What is server dual stacked?What is server dual stacked?」」(3) A warrior says(3) A warrior says    「    「 Create the network environment Create the network environment in such a way!in such a way!」」

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Introduction of Dwarves(Panelists)A sage to govern clientsA sage to govern clients

Yoshiaki Kitakughi (Intec Netcore)A maze around the serversA maze around the servers

Shin Shirahata (Clara Online)A warrior in the networksA warrior in the networks

Shingo Kudo (IPv6 Promotion Counsil

IPv4/IPv6 Co-exsiting WG Service migration Sub-WG co-chair)

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Summary• What obtained through expeirments

– Need to deliver the warning to all those woking in the network

• Other thoughts– Decision by the providers could

minimize the damage in the IPv4 address depletion issue.

– Everybody needs to realise the resposibility as a network operator not to impede the network development

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When you make a decision

• Use it• Get used to it• Bring it up• Train it• Raise the level• Look for customers who pay for it• Create services the customers pay

for

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WE CAN DO ! WE CAN WE CAN DO ! WE CAN DO !!DO !!

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It is a nice moment to start the IPv6 

services

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THANK YOU!

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