rx office hours: important
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Rx Office Hours:
IMPORTANT
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Pharmacy Access Office HoursSeptember 20, 2018
Focus Topic: Medicaid and Rx
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Today’ Agenda
• Operational updates
• Brief presentation on “focus topic” – Medicaid and Rx
• Open Q&A
• Link to two-question evaluation https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZWW7QC2
Please use the Chat Box during the session to ask questions, add info, etc. There will be
time for Q&A at the end.
Documents available for immediate download
• The slides from this presentation
• The Medicaid chapter from the NACHC 340B Manual
• To access them:
- Search for “NACHC 340B”
- Scroll about halfway down the page, and look under “Office
Hours” then “Sept 2018”
OPERATIONAL UPDATES
Colleen Meiman
Senior Policy Advisor
National Association of Community Health Centers
More Oversight of Contract Pharmacy Registrations
• Starting In October, HRSA will select a random sample of new contract
pharmacy arrangements that are registered on its database.
• Randomly-selected providers must send HRSA a
copy of their contract with the pharmacy.
• HRSA will review the contract to ensure it:
1. Is dated prior to the registration period
2. Lists all provider and all contract pharmacy locations, with addresses
that are identical to those that were registered.
3. Includes signatures of officials from both the entity and the pharmacy.
Regulation on Ceiling Prices & Fines on Manufacturers
• This regulation was:
– required by the ACA in 2010,
– published in the last days of the Obama Administration,
– delayed 5 times by the Trump Administration,
– now scheduled to become effective in July 2019.
• Last month, Congressional leaders from both parties and houses
wrote HRSA to request it become effective ASAP.
• This month, several hospital association filed a lawsuit to have it
made effective.
The end of “gag clauses” on pharmacists?
• “Gag clauses” on pharmacists prohibit
them from telling patients when the cash
price of a drug is less than their insurance
copayment.
• Several states have taken steps to ban
gag clauses.
• Congress is now taking action as well.
–Bills banning gag clauses in Medicare
Part D and private insurance are now
making their way through both Houses.
Coming Soon! An On-Line Forum
• We will soon launch an on-line discussion/ collaboration forum focused
exclusively on pharmacy access issues for health centers.
• Platform will be “Noddlepod” – being used by NACHC for other T&TA
activities, with good results.
• Intended to be a “safe space” for questions and discussions, as well as a
repository for easily-accessible information.
–Access will be limited to staff from health centers, PCAs, HCCNs, NACHC, and
Apexus. You will need to sign up, and be approved.
• Want to help launch it? You can sign up today – link is in the evaluation
survey -- https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZWW7QC2
A Couple Reminders
1. Whenever possible, please register your sites with
HRSA during the regular two-week window at the
start of the quarter.
The extended windows should be used only when
absolutely necessary.
2. For a Mirena-like IUD at $50 each, contact
3. FQHCs may use 330 funds to purchase Emergency
Contraception, and to dispense it to their patients.
Want
more info
on these
items?
See slides
from July
Office
Hours.
SUMMARY OF OPERATIONAL UPDATES
1. HRSA now requires randomly-selected providers to submit signed
contracts for review before allowing them to register a contract
pharmacy arrangement.
2. Congress and hospitals associations are pushing for the Ceiling
Price regulation to go into effect.
3. Congress is moving to ban “gag clauses” on pharmacists.
4. Coming soon – an on-line discussion forum on “Noddlepod” for
health center pharmacy access issues.
Looking Ahead
Thursday October 18, 2:00 – 3:00 Eastern
Focus Topic: Either DIR Fees or Effective Pharmacy
Oversight Committees
Thursday November 15, 2:00 – 3:00 Eastern
Focus Topic: Dashboards for Tracking Pharmacy
Performance
Focus Topic:
Medicaid and Pharmacy
Presenter:
Gavin Magaha
Manager, 340B Education and Compliance Support
Apexus
Update: Medicaid, 340B, and PharmacyGavin Magaha, PharmD, MS, Manager 340B Education and Compliance Support
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Agenda
• High-level review: what is a duplicate discount
• Carve-IN vs Carve-OUT
• Medicaid Exclusion File
• Issues with Fee For Service (FFS) and Medicaid Managed Care
Organizations (MMCO)
• 340B Marketplace Trends
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340B and Duplicate Discounts
• A duplicate discount occurs when
• A covered entity purchases a drug at 340B
pricing and uses that drug on a 340B
patient
• The covered entity requests Medicaid pay
for the drug
• Medicaid then bills the manufacturer for a
rebate for that drug
• The manufacturer pays the rebate = a
duplicate discount
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Avoiding Duplicate Discounts
Carve-IN
• Covered entity purchases drug for
Medicaid patients; upfront 340B discount
• Medicaid receives the benefit of the
discount upfront from the 340B entity and
therefore is NOT able to seek a rebate
Carve-OUT
• Covered entity does NOT purchase the
drug for Medicaid patients at 340B;
purchase made on a non-340B account
• Medicaid should seek a rebate from the
manufacturer
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Medicaid Exclusion File
• HRSA established the Medicaid Exclusion File (MEF) as a tool to assist stakeholders in
preventing duplicate discounts
• A list of National Provider Identifiers (NPIs) and/or Medicaid Provider Numbers (MPNs) used for billing
• Informs state to exclude all claims from listed NPI/MPNs from the rebate file
• FFS only (not used for MCO claims)
• MEF used as source of truth for manufacturers and others
• Main limitation = all claims from NPI/MPNs must be treated the same
• Static database; published once a quarter (14 days prior to the start of the next quarter)
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Oversight and Governing Bodies
CMS Policy
• Requires states to collect rebates on claims (including MCO and clinic administered)
• 340B drugs are not subject to these rebate collection requirements
State Policy
• How will duplicate discounts be prevented in the state?
• 340B billing and reimbursement requirements
HRSA Policy
• Direct program oversight; requires prevention against duplicate discounts
• Developed the Medicaid Exclusion File to help stakeholders
• Bill according to the state policy (no HRSA AAC requirement)
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Duplicate Discounts – Medicaid Fee for Service
• HRSA requires covered entities that carve in (purchase 340B for Medicaid patients) to be
listed on the Medicaid Exclusion File (MEF)
• HRSA has clarified this is only required for Medicaid fee for service
• States use the MEF to identify 340B dispenses via NPI or MPN (not claim level).
• Some states require systems to identify 340B purchased drugs at the claim level
• NCPDP codes (08/20) are often used for retail claims,
• Claim modifiers such as “UD” are used in the clinic administered setting
• There are several factors that make this process difficult for 340B entities:
• Eligibility is often determined retrospectively and is not know at the point the claim is sent.
• Billing system sometimes lack the ability to change claim level data based on payers.
• For these reasons, 340B is rarely used in contract pharmacies for Medicaid patients.
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Duplicate Discounts – Medicaid Managed Care
• HRSA does not specifically address compliance under Medicaid Managed Care (MMCO)
• Working with CMS to develop a policy
• HRSA encourages 340B entities to work together with states to prevent duplicate discounts
• MMCO plans present challenges for CEs
• States individually negotiate processes for MMCO plans to identify 340B dispenses for exclusion
• CEs should contact states to learn state-specific processes for every state they serve
• This may mean having multiple processes in place based on payer
• Identifying MMCO patients is problematic; private plans vs managed Medicaid may not be
distinguishable
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Duplicate Discounts – Other Complexities
• Bundle-billed/reimbursed drugs
• Are they being accurately captured?
• Is the state seeking rebates for these medications?
• Dual eligible patients
• How does the state handle patients who are dual eligible?
• Is the state seeking rebates for these medications?
• Medicaid-pending patients
• How does the CE bill/rebill patients?
• Are accumulators correctly adjusted?
• How does your state handle items not available at 340B pricing?
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Health Centers – Carve-IN %age by state
Highest % Carve-In States
Connecticut 19%
Oklahoma 17%
Rhode Island 13%New Hampshire 10%Wyoming 0%
Lowest % Carve-In States
Washington 93%
Massachusetts 89%
Arizona 83%
Oregon 83%
Tennessee 77%
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National Trends
Approaches to prevent duplicate discount
• 85% reimburse retail 340B claims based on 340B Actual Acquisition
Cost from invoice
• 51% require retail 340B claims to have claim level identifiers
• 64% prohibit dispensing 340B drugs to Medicaid patients through
contract pharmacies
Other trends
Duplicate Discounts
340B
discountMedicaid
rebate
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Medicaid Reimbursement for 340B Drugs
• Rules differ based on whether drug is reimbursed under Fee-
for-Service (FFS) or Managed Care (MCO.)
• Note: For any given drug, the dollar value of the 340B
discount is identical to dollar value of the Medicaid rebate.
340B Rx reimbursed under Fee-for-Service:
• Federal rules require that States pay no more than the 340B
ceiling price plus a professional dispensing fee (pdf.)
• If the health center’s Actual Acquisition Cost (AAC) is less
than the 340B ceiling price, the state can pay only the AAC
plus the pdf.
• So the benefit of the 340B discount – and possibly sub-ceiling
discounts – accrues to the State.
• The pdf must based on recent data and analysis.
340B Drugs reimbursed under Managed Care:
• There are no federal requirements around reimbursement.
• However, Federal law does not prohibit States from reimbursing
at the 340B ceiling price or Actual Acquisition Cost (AAC),plus a
professional dispensing fee (pdf.)
• Many groups are seeking to access these savings – State
Medicaid programs, MMCOs, PBMs, TPAs, etc.
• Important to keep an eye out for these efforts, and push back.
Q&A
Link to two-question evaluation: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZWW7QC2
Physician-Supervised Dispensaries
Q: If a health center has a physician-supervised dispensary (instead of a
pharmacy, which is supervised by a pharmacist):
• What are the rules around billing Medicare?
• What are some common issues around billing Medicaid?
• Would the dispensary be eligible to obtain its own DEA number, or
must it use the physician's DEA number instead?
Link to two-question evaluation:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZWW7QC2
Shortages? Medicaid & Modifiers?
Q: Are any health centers experiencing shortages of any of
the following drugs: Lidocaine, Fluorescein, Zofran, and
Nitroglycerin? If so, any strategies for dealing with
them?
Q: “We are getting ready to approach our state about
requiring the 20 modifier on contract Pharmacy claims.
Any suggestions on how to do this?”
Link to two-question evaluation: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZWW7QC2
PBMs
Q: Are health centers being told by PBMs or payers that they must:
• either become specialty pharmacies or stop dispensing high-
costs drugs?
• start including a modifier on all 340B purchased drugs?
• attest to the percentage of their claims that they fill through
340B?
Link to two-question evaluation:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZWW7QC2
Other Questions?
Please complete the two-question evaluation:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZWW7QC2
Contact: Colleen Meiman, [email protected]