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Proximity Signal Use
GE EnergyTimothy S IrwinDecember 2005
What are we looking at?
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What are our Goals:
• Accurate information to provide:
• Machinery Diagnostics
• Machinery Condition Monitoring
• Machinery Reliability Improvements
• Etc.
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3000 and 7000 Series
3200 and 7200 Series
ProbeCoilTypes
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RF SIGNAL 0
RF SIGNAL 0
RF SIGNAL 0
Oscillator/Demodulator
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Common Installation Problems
• Cross coupling effects
• Probe tip side clearance
• Radial probe orientation
• Bracket resonance
• Incorrectly gapped probes
• Noise and signal errors
• Wrong target material
• Target area has an overlay (I.e. chrome, etc.)
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Cross coupling effects
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Probe tip side clearance
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Radial probe orientation
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Bracket resonance
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Incorrectly gapped probes
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Noise and signal errors
• Ground loop problems• Electrical noise from other signal cables
Noise Definition – Undesirable signal components that:
What can cause errors?
• Distort the Data.
• Contains no relevant information to the measurements being taken.
• Interferes with the ability to accurately diagnose the machine condition.
• Integration noise.• Runout.• Transducer resonance.• Mismatched parts• Target Material Issues
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Noise and signal errors
Removing or eliminating noise:
• Proper electrical installation practices
• Proper grounding practices
• Filters• Compensation
• Single point ground, shielded cables, verify cableand connector integrity, separate cable trays, etc.
• Perform grounding using philosophy that we are looking attwo circuits; a power circuit and a signal circuit.
• Proper matching of transducer system components
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• Transducer System
• Three pieces are tuned to get a proper signal.
• Probe, Extension Cable, and Proximitor.
• If any of the components do not match, this will changethe scale factor and the amplitude levels will not be accurate.
• There are many variables that would determine how far off ofthe curve the ‘modified’ scale factor would be.
• Just please be sure that the components have to be a matched set!!
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• Target Material Issues
• It is critical to have the properly identified target material toensure accurate signals.
• Typical transducer systems are calibrated to send a 200mV/milsignal (scale factor) when the target is 4140 steel.
• If the target is not 4140 or similar the scale factor of that materialneeds to be verified and if significantly different the system canbe calibrated as necessary.
• If the target has an overlay the scale factor and response ofthe transducer system can be affected. Chrome plating or anycorrosion resistant overlay will cause problems on an off the shelfsystem.
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• Glitch
• We list several items together that affect the signal and call it Glitch.
• Surface scratches
• Residual magnetism.
• Electrical runout.
• Mechanical runout.
• All of the above items will show up as amplitude levels and‘vibration’ at shaft speeds that are too low to create realdynamic motion. If you are at 200 rpm on a 3600 rpm machineand your monitor says there is over 1 mil of vibration, it is probably‘Glitch’ and needs to be corrected.
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What signal(s) do we actually see from a Proximity Probe?
• The DC signal
• Quantifies the gap between the probe tip andthe target
• The AC signal
• Quantifies the variation in the DC signal todetermine the shaft movement to and away fromthe probe.
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Here are some raw signals at slow roll
Generator Front Bearing Data at slow roll
X – 1.60 mils at 230 rpmY – 1.64 mils at 230 rpm
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Here are those raw signals at operating speed
Y – 1.88 mils at 3600 rpm X – 1.93 mils at 3600 rpm
Generator Front Bearing Data
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Filtered Data
Y – 0.45 mils at 230 rpm X – 0.34 mils at 230 rpm
Generator Front Bearing Data
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Compensated Data
Y – 0 mils at 230 rpm X – 0 mils at 230 rpm
Generator Front Bearing Data
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Compensated Data
Y – 0.26 mils at 3600 rpm X – 1.02 mils at 3600 rpm
Generator Front Bearing Data
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Filtered and Compensated Data
Y – 0.08 mils at 3600 rpm X – 1.03 mils at 3600 rpm
Generator Front Bearing Data
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Orbits – Are Combined Waveforms
Raw Orbit at 3600 rpm Filtered and CompensatedOrbit at 3600 rpm
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How does filtering and compensation affect spectral data?
• If we remove runout, we affect the 1X
• If we remove noise or ‘glitch’ (I.e. scratches, magnetism, etc.)we typically see a reduction in 1X multiples.
• A quick and dirty way (if you can catch coast down or start-updata) to determine if multiples are made from FFT calculationsof noise, is to see if the 1X multiples drop in amplitude with adrop in speed. If the multiples stay relatively the sameamplitude over a large speed range, it is probably noise and notreal vibration.
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Here is the raw signal
138 rpm and 0.95 mils 3600 rpm and 2.09 mils
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Here is the compensated signal:
Compensated and 2.44 mils
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Here is the raw spectrum and then compensated spectrum:
Compensated and 2.44 milsUncompensated and 2.09 mils
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Uncompensated waterfall plot:
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Compensated waterfall plot:
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What are we looking at?
What I want are the tools to make the plot on the leftlook like the plot on the right and be reasonably surethat I know where the weaknesses are in the signalprocessing.
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Any Questions?
The End.