proposed rule for gainful employment: priviate meetings and
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Final List of Private Meetings and Attendees
Proposed Rule for Gainful Employment
December 15, 2010
U.S. Department of Education
“Over the past several weeks, the U.S. Department of Education met with over 50 unique entities to discuss their comments received in response to
the notice of proposed rulemaking for gainful employment published on July 29, 2010. Below you will find the complete list of individuals who
participated on behalf of for-profit institutions, community colleges, higher education organizations, student organizations, and other interested
parties.
As a whole, the discussions resulting from these meetings helped to ensure that the Department underwent a thorough and thoughtful review process
that will ultimately result in a rule that best serves the interests of students and taxpayers alike. The Department appreciates the constructive
viewpoints shared throughout the course of these discussions and is on track to publish a final rule in early 2011.”
The following Department Officials and Staff participated in private meetings on the subject of gainful employment:
Office of the Secretary (ED-SEC)
Arne Duncan, Secretary of Education
Office of the Deputy Secretary (ED-ODS)
Tony Miller, Deputy Secretary
Office of the Under Secretary (ED-OUS)
James Kvaal, Deputy Under Secretary
Leigh Arsenault, Confidential Assistant
Office of the General Counsel (ED-OGC)
Charlie Rose, General Counsel
Georgia Yuan, Deputy General Counsel
Steve Finley, Program Attorney
Harold Jenkins, Assistant General Counsel
Office of Postsecondary Education (ED-OPE)
Eduardo Ochoa, Assistant Secretary
David Bergeron, Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary
Dan Madzelan, Senior Director for Strategic Planning, Analysis, and Initiatives Service
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 14th, 2010
InfiLaw
Rick Inatome InfiLaw
Chief Executive Officer
Doug Chait InfiLaw
Senior Vice President, Corporate Development
Chidi Ogene InfiLaw
General Counsel
Dennis Cariello DLA Piper
Counsel
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Steve Finley ED- OGC
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 14th, 2010
Center for Education and the Workforce
Anthony Carnevale CEW
Director
Michelle Melton CEW
James Kvaal ED- OUS
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 15th, 2010
American Association of Cosmetology Schools
Tom Netting Akerman Senterfitt
Public Affairs Advisor
Anthony Fragomeni AACS
Director
Christine Gordon Graham Webb Academy
President
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Dan Madzelan ED-OPE
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 18th, 2010
Monroe College
Karenann Carty Monroe
Academic Dean
Marc Jerome Monroe
Executive Vice President
Roberta Greenberg Monroe
Vice President
Stephen Jerome Monroe
President
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 19th, 2010
Mark Kantrowitz
Mark Kantrowitz
Publisher
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 21st, 2010
Kaplan Inc.
Andrew Rosen Kaplan
CEO
Matt Seelye Kaplan
Chief Financial Officer
Rebecca Campoverde Kaplan
Senior VP for Government Relations
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Steve Finley ED- OGC
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 21st, 2010
DeVry Inc.
Elizabeth Truelove McDermott DeVry
Senior Director, Internal Audit
Michelle Stipp DeVry
Manager, Policy and Training, Regulatory Affairs
Thomas Babel DeVry
Vice President
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Steve Finley ED- OGC
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 21st, 2010
The Institute for College Access and Success, Campus Progress, United States Student Association, and US Public Interest Research Group
Pauline Abernathy TICAS
President
Debbie Cochrane TICAS
Program Director
Angela Peoples Campus Progress
Policy and Advocacy Manager
Getachew Kassa USSA
Legislative Director
Rich Williams US PIRG
Higher Education Advocate
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 22nd, 2010
Strayer University
Dr. Sandra Stallard Strayer University
President
Catherine Guttman-McCabe Strayer University Senior Vice President and General Counsel
Kelly Bozarth Strayer Education Inc.
Senior Vice President and Chief Business Officer
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 22nd, 2010
National Consumer Law Center
Deanne Loonin NCLC
Attorney
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 22nd, 2010
Walden University and Laureate Education Inc.
Jonathan Kaplan Walden University
President
Paula Singer Laureate Higher Education Group CEO
Jennifer Blum Drinker, Biddle & Reath
Partner
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 25th, 2010
Bridgepoint Education
Sheryl Wright Bridgepoint
Vice President of Government Affairs
Nancy Broff Dickstein Shapiro LLP
Counsel
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Harold Jenkins ED- OGC
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 25th, 2010
Lincoln Educational Services
Scott Shaw Lincoln
Executive Vice President and Chief Administrative Officer
Shaun McAlmont Lincoln
President and CEO
Fran Giglio Lincoln
Vice Prsident of Compliance and Regulatory Services
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 25th, 2010
Association of Private Colleges and Universities
Harris Miller APSCU
President and CEO
Jonathan Guryan Northwestern University
Associate Professor of Human Development and Social Policy and Economics
Tammy Halligan APSCU
Director of Regulatory Affairs
Brian Moran APSCU
Executive Vice President for Government Relations and General Counsel
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 25th, 2010
Career Education Corporation
Diane Jones CEC
Vice President for External and Regulatory Affairs
Gary McCullough CEC
President
Leslie Thornton Dickstein Shapiro LLP
Director
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 26th, 2010
Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities
Harris Miller APSCU
President and CEO
Brian Moran APSCU
Executive Vice President for Government Relations and General Counsel
Dr. Jonathan Guryan Northwestern University
Associate Professor of Human Development and Social Policy and Economics
Lauren Maddox Podesta Group
Principal
Jay Urwitz Wilmer & Hale
Partner
Bill Clohan APSCU
Special Advisor to Harris Miller
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Tony Miller ED- ODS
Charlie Rose ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 26th, 2010
Eastern Iowa Community College
Patricia Keir Eastern Iowa CC
Chancellor
Jane Haugland Eastern Iowa CC
District Financial Aid Officer
Karen Bickers Eastern Iowa CC
President and Vice Chancellor
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 26th, 2010
Grand Canyon University
Brent Richardson Grand Canyon
CEO
Dennis Cariello DLA Piper
Counsel
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 26th, 2010
American Council on Education, Association of Community College Trustees, American Association of Community Colleges
Terry Hartle ACE
Senior Vice President, Division of Government & Public Affairs
David Baime AACC
Senior Vice President, Government Relations, & Research
JeeHang Lee ACCT
Director of Public Policy
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 28th, 2010
ITT Technical Institute
Kevin Modany ITT
CEO
Clark Elwood ITT
Executive Vice President and Chief Administrative Officer
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 28th, 2010
Northwestern Career College
Lawrence Schumacher Northwestern
President
Laura Pollastrini
Northwestern
Dan Madzelan
ED- OPE
Steve Finley
ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 28th, 2010
Education Management Corporation
Anthony Guida EDMC
Senior Vice-President of Regulatory Affairs and Strategic Development
Richard Them EDMC
Vice President
Edward West EDMC
CFO
Jack McKernan EDMC
Chairman and Former Governor of Maine
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 28th, 2010
Rocky Vista University
Dr. Bruce Dubin Rocky Vista
Dean and Chief Academic Officer
Dr. Robert Roehrich Rocky Vista
President
J. Andrew Usera Rocky Vista
Vice President and General Counsel
Kathy Leary Rocky Vista
Director of Financial Aid
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 29th, 2010
Corinthian Colleges
Peter Waller Corinthian
CEO
Jack Massimino Corinthian
Executive Chairman of the Board
Mark Pelesh Corinthian
Executive Vice President, Legislative & Regulatory Affairs
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 29th, 2010
Education Management Corporation
Jack R. McKernan EDMC
Chairman
Todd Nelson EDMC
CEO
Edward West EDMC
CFO
Anthony Guida EDMC
Senior Vice-President of Regulatory Affairs and Strategic Development
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 29th, 2010
DeVry Inc.
Daniel Hamburger DeVry
CEO
Sharon Parrott DeVry
Senior Vice President and Chief Compliance Officer of Regulatory Affairs
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 29th, 2010
University of Phoenix/Apollo Group
Joseph D'Amico Apollo Group/UOP
President and COO
Charles Edelstein Apollo Group/UOP
Co-CEO, Chairman
Gergory Cappelli Apollo Group
Director, Chairman
Dr. William Pepicello
UOP
President
Matthew Ankrum Apollo
Head of Global Strategy
Michael Goldstein DowLohnes
Attorney at Law
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 29th, 2010
Capella University
Christine Johnson Capella University
Director of Government Affairs
Kevin Gilligan Capella Education Company
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Jennifer Blum Drinker, Biddle & Reath
Partner
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
October 29th, 2010
Corinthian Colleges
Peter Waller Corinthian
CEO
Mark Pelesh Corinthian
Executive Vice President, Legislative & Regulatory Affairs
James Kvaal ED- OUS
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault Ed- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 1st, 2010
U.S. Small Business Administration
Kate Reicher SBA
Charles Maresca SBA
Kia Dennis SBA
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Dan Madzelan ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 9th, 2010
Capella University
Kevin Gilligan Capella Education Company
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Christine Johnson Capella University
Director of Government Affairs
Jennifer Blum Drinker, Biddle & Reath
Partner
Larry Isaak Capella University
President
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Charlie Rose ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 9th, 2010
Strayer University
Robert Silberman Strayer Education Inc.
Chairman and CEO
Catherine Guttman-McCabe Strayer University Senior Vice President and General Counsel
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Charlie Rose ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 10th, 2010
The Institute for College Access and Success, Campus Progress, U.S. Students Association, National Consumer Law Center,
US Public Interest Research Group
Lauren Asher TICAS
President
Pauline Abernathy TICAS
Vice President
Chris Lindstrom US PIRG
Higher Education Program Director
Rich Williams US PIRG
Higher Education Advocate
Getachew Kassa USSA
Legislative Director
Lindsay McCluskey USSA
President
Angela Peoples Campus Progress
Policy and Advocacy Manager
David Halperin Campus Progress
Senior Vice President
Deanne Loonin NCLC
Attorney
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 10th, 2010
American Council on Education, Association of Community College Trustees, American Association of Community Colleges
David Baime AACC
Senior Vice President, Government Relations, & Research
Dr. George Boggs AACC
President and CEO
Dr. Walter Bumphus AACC
President and CEO-designee
Jee Hang Lee ACCT
Director of Public Policy
J. Noah Brown ACCT
CEO
Terry Hartle ACE
Senior Vice President, Division of Government & Public Affairs
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 10th, 2010
Rasmussen College
J. Michael Locke Rasmussen
CEO
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Tony Miller ED- ODS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 11th, 2010
Kaplan Inc.
Don Graham The Washington Post Company
Chairman and CEO
Andrew Rosen Kaplan
Chairman and CEO
Matt Seelye Kaplan
Chief Financial Officer
Rebecca Campoverde Kaplan
Senior VP for Government Relations
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 22nd, 2010
BC Partners
James Rubin BC Partners
Raymond Svider BC Partners
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Tony Miller ED- ODS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 23rd, 2010
Walden University and Laureate Education Inc.
Doug Becker Laureate Education Inc.
Chairman and CEO
Paula Singer Laureate Higher Education Group CEO
Jonathan Kaplan Walden University
President
Jennifer Blum Drinker, Biddle & Reath
Partner
Arne Duncan ED- SEC
Tony Miller ED- ODS
James Kvaal ED- OUS
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 24th, 2010
Howard Community College
Katherine Allen Howard CC
Director, Financial Aid Services
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 29th, 2010
Coalition for Educational Success
Lanny Davis Lanny J. Davis and Associates
Principal
Avy Stein
Willis Stein & Partners Principal Principal
Lincoln Frank Quad Partners
Managing Partner
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
Georgia Yuan ED- OGC
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
November 30th, 2010
Rasmussen College
J. Michael Locke Rasmussen
CEO
Adam Steinbrunner Rasmussen
Director of Student Economics
Taryn Hennessy Rasmussen
James Kvaal ED- OUS
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
December 1st, 2010
YTI, Concorde, and Ogle Schools
Tim Foster YTI/Concorde/Ogle
CEO and Executive Chairman
Ben Klein Heather Podesta & Partners
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
December 1st, 2010
Regency Beauty
Andrea Fike Regency
Senior Vice President and General Counsel
Hayes Batson Regency
President
Heather Podesta Heather Podesta & Partners
Partner
Eduardo Ochoa ED- OPE
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
December 1st, 2010
Aerosim Flight Academy
Shannon Sheppard Aerosim
Manger of Education
Paul Woessner Aerosim
Senior Vice President
Scott Foose Regional Airline Association
Vice President
James Kvaal ED- OUS
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS
Meeting Record Regarding Gainful Employment
December 14th, 2010
University of Phoenix/Apollo Group
Mark Brenner UOP
Senior Vice President, External Affairs
Joseph D'Amico Apollo Group/UOP
President and COO
Matthew Ankrum Apollo
Head of Global Strategy
Gergory Cappelli Apollo Group
Director, Chairman
James Kvaal ED- OUS
David Bergeron ED- OPE
Steve Finley ED- OGC
Leigh Arsenault ED- OUS