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Objective Moral Values and Duties Do Exist. The Best Way We Can Know Objective/Absolute Moral Laws Exist. We best know what is right and wrong by our reactions not our actions. We cannot know injustice unless we know justice!. The Standard of Justice. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: Objective Moral Values and Duties Do Exist

Objective Moral Values and Duties Do Exist

Page 2: Objective Moral Values and Duties Do Exist

The Best Way We Can Know Objective/Absolute Moral Laws Exist

• We best know what is right and wrong by our reactions not our actions.–We cannot know injustice unless we

know justice!

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The Standard of Justice• “{As an atheist} my argument against God was

that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?

Straight line = Standard

C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity, p. 45

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We Are Not Saying

Atheists can’t be moral they can Atheists can’t know morality they do

What We Are SayingAtheists can’t justify moralityAtheism can theorize about how we know

murder is wrong, but atheism provides no objective standard that establishes why murder is wrong.

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I Agree With AtheistsSome atheists live better moral lives than

Christians.Some who people who say they are “Church

people” have poisoned the teachings of Christ– church history has often been unjust, immoral and even overtly evil.

We Are Only Saying There is no just or unjust, moral or immoral,

good or evil unless God exists

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If Objective Moral Standards Do Not Exist…

1. The Nazis were not wrong2. 9/11 was not wrong.3. Love is no better than rape4. Blowing up innocent people watching a

marathon is morally no different than feeding the poor.

5. Religious crusades are not wrong.6. Tolerance is no better than intolerance. 7. There are no human rights.

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Different Values or Different Displays?

• Kissing vs Handshakes– Different values? Or different reflections of same

values?• Dress codes• Driving on sides of the road

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The Beef with IndiaAbsolute Value vs Relative Understanding

Value is the same: Respect elders and ancestors

Understanding differs: Where is my ancestor?

WE BOTH BELIEVE WE SHOULD NOT EAT

GRANDMA!

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Objective vs. Convention

Objective may be ‘murder is wrong’Convention may be wether your drive on the right side

of the road or left sideBritish left America right

If the convention is you drive on the left, then you have a moral obligation to do so because if not you will bring harm to yourself/others

While the convention may be relative, the obeying is objective because its for the preservation of life.

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Objective Moral Values and Duties Exist

• We can best know morality by our reactions not our actions

• If there is no objective standard, there is nothing right or wrong; it’s just your opinion against Hitler’s opinion

• Cultures share the same values, we are expressed differently in that culture