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You must be ... :what are you now, 20?

18 mate.

That's right cause you left in year 10.

That's right.

You're only a baby .. I have them here at 23, 26.

.Cheers mate, what's that?

What do you call that stuff that puts the electrolytes back in your body, taste it. ·

Real sugary kind of.

Well they call that one Power, but it's competitor is different. It's competitor's got a different name. I suppose if you're running or whatever you're doing, if you're running or fucking or whatever you're doing, you're supposed to dri.D.k this and it puts back the ·energy. It's prohably an advertising campaign. I've got rio energy.

Fuck, I didn't know it was so late.

Well as I said to you, somebody was here yesterday whom I took to lunch. I said God I've run out ofVoltaron for my back .. He said, 11Wby didn't you tell me. My father's got a brand new bottle of it. He said I could have emptied the bottle of it and he said I could have brought you over half of it."

You told me that before.

Yeah. (Incoherent) . Did I tell you the story about the woman that wanted a kilo of tomatoes. Did I tell you that story? I seem to tell the same stories?

Yeah mate, yeah you told me that one.

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I seem to tell the same stories all the time. Maybe that's a sign of Alzheimer's Disease. Did I tell you the story about the guy that three holes in one in succession? ·

No.

Well he's up to about the sixteen hole in Ireland and a Leprechaun appears and said, "Would you like to do this hole in one?" The guy said, "Yeah I wouldn't mind." He said, "But there's a penalty. The penalty is he said, you can't have any sex for 10 years." The guy says "That's alright, that doesn't matter." So okay, he gets his hole in one at the 16th and people are very excited. So the leprechaun appears at the 17th and he says, "Would you like to do this hole in one so you get two holes in ,one?" The guy says, "yeah well I would. 11

He said, "There's a penalty, you've got to have another 10 years without sex. That's a total

·of 20 years." The guy says "Yeah well that's· alright, it doesn't matter." So he gets his second hole in one and by this stage of course, the press and the T.V. and everybody are on the fucking golf course. So he gets to the 18th and the leprechaun appears again. He said, "Well would you like to do what no man has ever done in the world. Would you like to get your consecutive hole in one?" The guy said,

. 'Yeah I wouldn't mind. 11 He said, 11There1s a penalty, another 10 years without sex. That makes 30 years altogether." He said, "Yeah· that's alright. 11 and he hits the ball and gets a hole in one and that's how Father Alowishes O'FLARERTY got into the Guiriness Book of Records.

Is there any significance ...... You lost me on that one mate?

Catholic priest, he was celibate. . Father Alowishes 0 'FLAHERTY would have been a catholic priest so he wouldn't have been getting any sex anyway. So 30 year without sex wouldn't have made any difference because he was not supposed to have any sex the whole of his life. That's why I lost you because you weren't used to the Catholic mode, but that's alright. Was there any significance in what?

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Down in the stomach here, because I've done it heaps of times. I really need to know. Is that stress though?

Stress?

Yeah.

And that relaxing thing you used to do, how I used .to put my arms out and stuff, how do you make that work so well? It's just really relaxing.

It takes a bit of work. I've got tapes in there.

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. 'ilii-~~;a-~ ·1s true· at scliaol too; :You've ]list got to ·

admit that in some senses irrespective of the fact that you've lost yo:ur job or anything else, that's got nothing to do with it. In some senses you're non functional. When I say you're 'non functional', I mean in fact that you do under a variety of circumstances, you're so uptight it's not funny. You always have. You used to fight it at school, you didn't believe you were uptight at school, but the interesting thing was that although .you sort of argued that you weren't uptight you still came back for appointments. The interesting thing was that you used to verbalise that you didn't need to see me, but you used to come back and the fact that you used to verbalise that you didn't need to see me, but you came back, it said it all. It said that the real

jBSE ~incoherent). I mean if you were really frightened of me ....

I wouldn't be there.

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How come you did that?

You do what you have to do for your clients

l:!nd if other people want to interpret it

differently. You don't interpret it differently

because if you interpreted it differently, you

wouldn't be here. You'd say, I'd don't want to

see that bloody fucking bastard. You

know .... and this is a big deal, you know and

you've always known and you knew when you

were at school, that I cared about you. Other

people might have been saying negative

t~ngs and they were. Why do you think that

I don't each lunch in the ??????. I don't eat

lunch in the ?????? because I don't want to

·hear about what people say about boys and

girls. If people are coming through my door,

they are what they are. They present

themselves as they are. I don't want to know

what other teachers think about them of

whether other teachers think they're shit or

whether other teachers say 'he's a very

difficult boy." or 'He's difficult to handle in

history periods' or he does this or he does that

or he does something else. I'll tell you a

funny story that yo'u'll enjoy. I1m walking

through the playgTound the other day and I

find this guy on the gTass not far from the

bottom of my stairs and this girl lying on top

of him, full length on his body and I said, 11What are you people doing?11 and she said,

"We 're doing CPR for Phys Ed, learning

resuscitation techniques." I said, 'T thought

the person breathing into the other person

mouth knelt by the side of them, by the side ·

of their hip and put their mouth down on

their mouth by the side of their head." "Oh

no. 11 says this girl, "You can do it this way."

By lying full length on the top of the guy. I

said, 11The only way you can do it that way if

you're hiding what's happening to him. 11 I

said, "I know what's happening to him. You

can feel what's happening to him. 11 And she

blushed absolutely beetroot red and I said, 11 0kay, I'll walk up my stairs into my office"

and what they've done from my stairs to my

office, the side thing that covers in the stairs

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which used to be fibro is now glass, so you can walk up the stairs and still look down. I said, "By the time that I get to the top of the stairs, you can get off him and I'll make a judgement about what I think about his erection." Of course they were horrified about that. They think that I'm a nasty old man. So I get to the top of my stairs and she's off and she's kneeling by the side of his head, breathing i:p.to his mouth and at that stage I walked down the stairs a little bit and I leant over the open edge and I walked back down to the first tier and I leant over the thingo and I said, "Aren't you supposed to have a plastic ????? that you breath into one another's mouth." They think that I am stupid. They really think that I am so silly that I really don't know wh.at's going on. But that's alright.

I wish there were girls there when I was ·there.

It's interest~ng because it's made a big difference. It's settled the guys down tremendously. They're not nearly as aggressive as they used to be and furthermore, especially in English, History and the Humanity subjects, the guys work much harder than they ever worked because

. they don't want to be beaten by the girls. Cause the girls by nature are ..... although the other thing that's really annoyed the boys is they've a number of girls in Year 12 this year that are taking Maths I, Maths II, Physics, Chemistry and a foreign language and they are better than the boys and they can't stand the fact that a girl could do physics, chemistry, maths I and maths II ·and get b_etter results than they can get.

I gotta go. Go home.

Well all you need to know after tonight, we're not finished by a long way and you know we're not finished. You know there's a long way to go and you know .... can I just say to you .... that you know that even though you may have lost your job .... we're not talking about careers, we're not talking about jobs, we're talking ?????? Okay, you were a little bit scared tonight, you'll get less scared. I want you to keep coming. I won't ever talk

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about appointments or dates. rll wait for

phone calls. If I don't get the phone calls, I

don't get them. That's fine. We have been

through enough together that you shouldn't

be frightened of me.

I wouldn't be here if I was scared.

You should admit that I wouldn't do anything

tp you in the long term that would hurt you or

be disadvantageous to you, and considering

what's already been done, what's already

been done, a lot of guys would be too fucking

terrified to walk through the front door, they

would have made judgements if they weren't

all men and there's· no way they would walk

through this front door. There's no way they

would even ring me up, there's no way they'd

ev~n talk to me. You are doing it because you

know that when you were at school in a .

psychological sense, never mind about the

physical, the physical is another dimension, ·

in a psychological sense we touche

another and we knew we did. '~:;:7_;£-'

;' .... ~;~~~i;t~~.· . ' 'Tuow that you wouldn't be here. unfo~ss 'you

thought I could do something for you and I

can. I can, but it will be hard fo:i;- you because

you're going to have to go back to those school

days and you're going to have to let yourself

go and I will not pressure any of that ever

until you say you're ready. There will get to

be a time when you are ready.

I will be ready but what will we be doing?

Well what will happen ... I'll give· you an

idea .... what will happen and it does happen,

you will have noticed that room in there's got

'therapy room' written on the door and what

will happen, you'll have a shower, then you'll

go into the therapy room. I won't be there,

the door will be locked, stand and look at

yourself all over when you are naked for a

certain amount of time and you'll go and

you'll lie on the bed with a towel across your

middle. I couldn't give a fuck what's

happening underneath the towel and I'll take

your temperature and rn take your blood

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pressure and I'll put the stethoscope on you and I'll be able to tell from that once we1ve done that, I'll be able to tell your degre~ of anxiety and pressures of society. Once I've done that, I may but I can1t promise but I may be able to in some ways .... some jobs where you'll be required to do different things, courses or whatever. My ultimate aim is a very practical one is to get you fully occupied again, not necessarily in getting ????? but you1re the kind of guy that if you've actually not got some sort of regular procedure and everybody likes ·a regular procedure, but you more than most people if you haven1t got a regular procedure you sort of go to pieces. But you need to know who you are and where you1re going. You're not the kind of guy .... you know what boys of your age, they say, 'just go with the flow1

, you're not the kind of guy that can go with the flow.

Of course it1s fucking right. You've got to know where you are and where you1re going and what the end is. You don't just go with the flow. You don1t just say, 1she'll be right mate. 11 It's not for you and it1s never been you. Isn't that right? You're not a go with the flow person.

I try to be.

Boys of your age are all supposed to be. You're supposed to say to your mates, 10h just go with the flow and whatever happens will happen1 and it gives you the shits because you don't know where you 1re going and what's gonna happen and that's why you're coming back and it's also why ... not tonight or any other night .... (incoherent)

(Incoherent)

Ring me at work. Ring me at work and say what about this night or that night or some other night. I might say, 'Tm entertaining a lady tonight for dinner. You can't come11

I really have to go. Time's killing me mate.

What?

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Time's killing me, I've got to bail.

That's alright. Alright, shake hands. I'm not gonna ·do all

those other things ... .! can't do it. I shake hands with a boy and they move their hands about and they do all this and I can't do it. I might see you soon. Don't stay away forever. Don't say LYNCH is a fuckwit. LYNCH is Jesus Christ on the Earth 1996.

When is the world supposed to end?

Fuck I don't know.

(incoherent) 1999.

Well it might be m which case we're all fuqked.

See you later.

(incoherent)

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