national geospatial advisory committee partnerships subcommittee december 2, 2009
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National Geospatial Advisory Committee
National Geospatial Advisory Committee
Partnerships SubcommitteeDecember 2, 2009
Partnership Subcommittee Progress Report
Subcommittee Members: Jerry Johnston (co-chair), Gene Schiller (co-chair),
Bull Bennett, Michael Byrne, Dick Clark, Don Dittmar, Randy Johnson, Barney Krucoff, Timothy Loewenstein, Charles Mondello, John Palatiello
Purpose: Develop recommendations to facilitate productive
Federal / State / Local / Tribal / Academic / Private partnerships to facilitate the efficient and effective advancement of the National Spatial Data Infrastructure (NSDI).
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Partnership Subcommittee Agenda Introduction (Jerry) Legal Framework (Jerry)
Review of national situation from NCPPP paper What we have learned about Florida Next steps
Data Licensing Survey (Charlie) Model partnerships in support of Parcels for the Nation (Barney) Conclusion / Wrap Up
Next Steps Parcels: Where do we go from here? Legal Framework
Enlisting the help of experts (OGC, DOI attorneys) Extending legal research to additional states
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Partnership Subcommittee Progress Report
Planned Activities/Next Steps From Summer 09 Mtg: Extracted key information from submittals (continued)
What Works – Preliminary
(see Attachment C: “NASCIO Keys to Collaboration: Building Effective Public-Private Partnerships”)
(see Attachment D: “A Survey of PPP Legislation Across the United States”) Establishment of favorable legislative, regulatory, and executive policy and
procedure (OMB Circular) framework for creative partnership investments Implementation of an integrated contractual framework to allocate risks
among the partners, public and private in an equitable manner Develop a model with the private sector to highlight benefits to all groups Active engagement with political, staff and community stakeholders (need
champions)
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Legal Framework
NCPPP Framework Definitions
“More or less sustainable cooperation between public and private actors in which joint products and/or services are developed and in which risks, costs and profits are shared.” (SP Osborne, Public and Private Partnerships: Theory and Practice in International Perspective)
“An agreement between a federal, state, or local agency (public entity) and a private sector organization… objective is to leverage the collective expertise and resource to positively impact an issue that benefits the public… both organizations equally share the risk and reap the reward…” (US Chamber of Commerce)
“A contractual agreement between a public agency and a private sector entity… skills and assets of each sector are shared … for the use of the general public … shared risks and rewards” (National Council for Public Private Partnerships)
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Legal Framework
Florida Legislation of Relevance FS 119 – Public Records
Ensure documents, etc. are available for open review Potential issues with license restrictions on data Trade secrets / confidential business information vs. full metadata
FS 472 – Land Surveying and Mapping Partners need to comply by being licensed to practice land surveying and
mapping in Florida FS 286.011 – Public Business (Sunshine Law)
Has been applied to meetings of staff involved with evaluating proposals. Need to avoid disclosure of proprietary materials collected in RFP process.
FS 287.055 – Consultants Competitive Negotiations Act
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Legal Framework
Existing Florida PPPs for Geospatial Primarily purchase of licensed data FLDOT: Unified Basemap project
Developed partnership with Navteq, licensed data for all levels of government (State / Local)
Corrections and Updates fed from government back to Navteq Not yet fully implemented
Florida Power and Light / Dade County Geospatial data sharing, sounds like it hasn’t worked out well…
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Partnership Subcommittee Progress Report
Planned Activities/Next Steps From Summer 09 Mtg: Extracted key information from submittals (continued)
What Works – Preliminary
(see Attachment C: “NASCIO Keys to Collaboration: Building Effective Public-Private Partnerships”)
(see Attachment D: “A Survey of PPP Legislation Across the United States”) Establishment of favorable legislative, regulatory, and executive policy and
procedure (OMB Circular) framework for creative partnership investments Implementation of an integrated contractual framework to allocate risks
among the partners, public and private in an equitable manner Develop a model with the private sector to highlight benefits to all groups Active engagement with political, staff and community stakeholders (need
champions)
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Partnership Subcommittee Progress Report Planned Activities/Next Steps
Leverage existing Private Gov’t Public Models Identify with how licensing as well as ownership of data can
drive utilization and government/private/public benefit
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Local
State/Fed
Public
Action: Develop a model with the private sector to highlight benefits to all groups
As a subset of the action Understand the needs of constituents in the partnership Engage our constituents optimally A survey was implemented to assess the key issues on data
licensing Understand license versus ownership by segment Understand if partnerships are considered beneficial
Snapshot of Respondents
Please indicate whether the questions answered throughout this questionnaire primarily reflect your own particular views, or those of the organization you work for.
Answer optionsPercent Count
My own particular views 82.6% 294The views of my organization 17.4% 62
Are you a user or provider of geospatial data?
UserProviderBoth
When procuring data, is the data typically of U.S. origin
YesNoBoth (Mixed)
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As a user or provider of geospatial data, what percentage is owned versus license data? [must sum to 100%)
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As a user or provider of geospatial data, what percentage is owned versus license data? [must sum to 100%)
Owned Licensed.00
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As a user or provider of geospatial data, what percentage is owned versus license data? [must sum to 100%)
Survey Results on Public Private Partnerships
As a user or provider of geospatial data, what percentage is owned versus license data? (must sum to 100%)
Answer options Response Response ResponseAverage Total Count
Owned 77.77 21,542 277Licensed 34.21 7,458 218
Public Private Academic
Note scale difference 90% versus 80% maximum
Is ownership versus license a key decision factor in the sale or purchase of your geospatial data?
Yes
No
Is ownership versus license a key decision factor in the sale or purchase of your geospatial data?
Yes
No
Is ownership versus license a key decision factor in the sale or purchase of your geospatial data?
Yes
No
Survey Results on Public Private Partnerships
Is Ownership versus license a key decision factor in the sale or purchase of your geospatial data?
Answer All Percent Count Yes 49.9% 173 No 50.1% 174
PublicYes
PrivateYes
AcedmYes
Survey on Public Private Partnerships If sold or procured using a license agreement, what are
the key features of the agreement (choose all that apply)?
Answer options ALL ResponsesPercent Count
Open/No Restriction 51.8% 116 Limited/Use Restriction 45.1% 101 Redistribution/Resale 24.1% 54 Annual License 14.7% 33 Multi Year License 12.1% 27 Perpetual License 19.6% 44 Seat License 10.3% 23 Site Wide License 12.9% 29 Corporate License 13.4% 30 Continuous Updates 13.8% 31
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If sold or procured using a license agreement, what are the key features of the agreement (choose all that apply)?
Public
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If sold or procured using a license agreement, what are the key features of the agreement (choose all that apply)?
Private
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If sold or procured using a license agreement, what are the key features of the agreement (choose all that apply)?
Academic
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Survey Results on Public Private Partnerships
Have you ever been involved with a project where third party funding from Federal, State, Local or the Private sector has been utilized to support geospatial content?
Partnership Subcommittee Progress Report
Planned Activities/Next Steps From Summer 09 Mtg: Extracted key information from submittals (continued)
What Works – Preliminary
(see Attachment C: “NASCIO Keys to Collaboration: Building Effective Public-Private Partnerships”)
(see Attachment D: “A Survey of PPP Legislation Across the United States”) Establishment of favorable legislative, regulatory, and executive policy and
procedure (OMB Circular) framework for creative partnership investments Implementation of an integrated contractual framework to allocate risks
among the partners, public and private in an equitable manner Develop a model with the private sector to highlight benefits to all groups Active engagement with political, staff and community stakeholders (need
champions)
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Partnership Subcommittee Agenda
Conclusion / Next Steps Parcels: Where do we go from here? Make Full Survey results sliced by different
dimensions available on NGAC Communications website
Legal Framework Enlisting the help of experts (OGC, DOI attorneys) Extending legal research to additional states
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How a theoretical public-private partnership for parcels and addresses might work
No Barrier to Entry
Natural Monopoly
Mass C
on
sum
er Market
Traditional Emerging
Private Sector
Lead
Map
Wiki
Creat
ive
Comm
on
s
Public
Sec
tor
Lead Public/
Private
Utility
Where Do Various Data Layers Fit?
Urban AerialPhotography
RoutingData
Rural Aerial Photography
SpeciesSittings
Stream Gauges
Topo
StarbucksLocations
HSIP 1w/ DHS buy up
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No Barrier to Entry
Natural Monopoly
Mass C
on
sum
er Market
Traditional Emerging
Private Sector
Lead
Map
Wiki
Creat
ive
Comm
on
s
Public
Sec
tor
Lead
Public/
Private
Utility
Parcel & AddressData
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No Barrier to Entry
Natural Monopoly
Mass C
on
sum
er Market
Private
Sector Lead
Map
Wik
i
Creat
ive
Comm
o
ns
Public
Secto
r Lea
d Public/
Private
Utility
Public Private Utility Model in More Detail
Cash
Data
Discounts/Licenses
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Public Side The lead federal agency:
Advertises a competitive RFP to license a national parcel map. All governments (federal, state, local, tribal) are licensed
to use the data per the RFP. Commercial rights are retained by the winning bidder(s).
Select winner(s) based on “best value.”
Private Side The winning entrepreneur(s) must:
Establish a cloud computing service and assemble all parcels into a national map and database. (see Dr. Sean Ahearn, parcel spec presentation to NGAC.)
Pay communities that are legal custodians of parcels ($0.?0 / year / parcel). This includes communities that already put their data in the public domain. Further subsidies may be paid for rural areas & public lands. Don’t pay communities that don’t meet specifications, schedules or
withhold distributions rights. Where communities withhold distribution rights, create the
data from public records. Make money. Use/enforce the commercial rights to distribute
national parcel data. This franchise is intended to allow bidders to in turn lower the price paid by the Federal government.
Problems Addressed by the Partnership
Problem Solution
Government can’t afford nationwide parcels
Get some cash from Internet media firms + enough public cash to cover rural areas & provide incentives
Current system rewards government data sellers over public domain providers
Every eligible government that meets standards gets the same fee
Licensed data is sticky, making it hard for various levels of government to work together
License includes government-to-government data sharing
Foster competition and innovation Government leverages the free market by licensing data
Other considerations
Problems Solutions
A 1-to-1 relationship between addresses & parcels is a “suburban legend”
Give users both parcels and addresses so they don’t try to substitute one for the other
This stuff is boring and expensive and few people pay attention
Cloud computing approach is efficient and novel enough to get attention
Include a Wiki/citizen participation component
Comments from citizens, real-estate agents, etc are channeled back the community which is the authoritative source of the data.
What other data sets could such a partnership be applied to?