life with charlie manson - part 2
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8/12/2019 Life With Charlie Manson - Part 2
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L I F E W I T H C H A R L I E M A J V S O N h i r o p r a c t o r G u i l tyin Prostitution Case
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picked up all 1 had andwent wi th h im.
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"That wa s Charles Man-son."
Miss F r o m m e , stillwearing an "x" in her*forehead, told how she, an-other girl and a boy, l e f twitiv Manson for San Fran-cisco's Haight-Asbury dis-trict:' Although the boy andgirl ' ,- left them, Mansonpicked up ano ther girl —M a r j B r u n n e r — w h e nthey "got t o Berkeley.
"jfcharlie had previously
mef'Mary," Miss Frommesaid
1.1" She was a librarian
at ffie University of Cali-fornia at Berkeley . . . shewasn ' t content either. Maryha d he r paycheck and wewent to Mendocino andrented a cabin and justlived of f practically noth-ing."
Th e three then went toSacramento where they ex -changed their old car forthe "big, black schoolbus," and in i t they wentback to Sa n Francisco."There were a lot of kidsaround there just trying toge t away from that fife,"Miss Fr o m m e recalled.""W^ took anyone thatwanted to come."
She related how theym et Patricia Krenwinkel.
"Charlie had a friend inManhattan Beach, and wem et Katie (Miss Krenw in-kel) the re . We p layed mu-sic. She loved music. Andwe sang."
"Charlie," she said witha smite, "Sings so as itwould make yo u w a n t tosing.
"Anyway, we ail walkedon the beach and spenttime together, Katie w as
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looking, like all kids arelooking, for the truth —and peace — and someoneto love her .
"We sang and talked andfinally sh e said 'I'm com-in g with you.' She had ajob with a n insurance com-pany; i t was a drudge. S hesaid she was tired of it.We weren ' t trying to give
her advice. W e were justliving and having a -goodtime. W e didn' t do any-thing about he r job. Themore yo u try to tie uploose ends, the more looseends there are. Her sisterw as making a scene, pro-'testing, bu t we left. It wasthat simple."
Asked by chief defensecounsel Paul Fitzgerald ifthere was a leader to thegroup, th e girl answered aquick: "N o W e werejust riding the winds .Charlie is a man and wewere all looking fo r a manwh o would beat ou r feetin his love, bu t wouldn'tlet us step on him."
Then, in a burst of en-thus iasm, she told ofCharlie: .
"Charlie is our father inthe respect that he wouldpoint ou t things to us —help us. He'd tell us towatch things.
"It began with m e —
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Horse SenseQ. There are some thoroughbreds racing now which
have the same names as horses which ran in the 1930s
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slaughter which takes place, beginnin g in June,, on thePribilof Islands off the coast of Alaska. W e would liketo voice our protest and contact any groups w h i c h - a reworking to prevent seal slaughters. M.L.R . , Lakewood.
A . Fr iends o f Animals Inc., 1 1 W . 6 f l t h St., N ewYork , N.Y. 1 0 0 2 3 is a non-profit organization working forh u m a n e treatment of animals, especially seals. AliceHerr ing ton , Fr iends o f A n i m a l s president, told A C T I O NL I N E tha t anyone w h o wishes to help circulate petit ionsin suppor t of seal p rotect ion laws , to be presented toCongress, s h o u l d write to her at th e Fr iends of A n i ma l saddress . Sh e said he r g r o u p also works closely with theN ew Brunsw ick Society for the Prevention of Cruel ty toAnimals, to stop the annual seal slaughter In the G u l f o fSt. Lawrence, off the coast of New Brunswick , Canada .Mrs. H errington said that a bill, which should be intro-duced in Congress very soon, would ban the importationo f all m ar ine mamm al p roducts in to the United Statesan d also make it illegal for Americans to kill seals InUni ted States wate rs o r on the Ugh seas.
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giving myself up to oneman. It was hard. W e hadbeen taught the re ' shou ldbe one man and one wom -an. There w as jealousyamong th e girls, but it wasa beautiful experience."
THEN , AS the courtroomburst into laughter, sh eadded, with gestures, "W ehad the blanket going backand forth . . . and /we'dyell at each other until w efinally looked at each oth-er in the eyes an d realizedwe loved each other."
The group picked up Su-san Atkins in a commune
in San Francisco.La ter , Miss Fromme
said, the 'group me t andgathered in Ruth AnneM o r e h o u s e , lab ele d"Quish" who had "prettymuch been kicked out ofher house too."
When the group got backto Topanga Canyon, theypicked up Brenda McCann,wh o "came from a prettywealthy family."
JUST BEF O R E they allmoved to the Spahn Ranchin Chatsworth, Mary Brun-ne r gave birth to Manson'sbaby in a condemnedhouse in Malibu.
"W e called it SunstoneHawk," Miss Fromme saidwith a laugh, "because thesu n w as coming u p over astone and a hawk f l e wover the.house."
The group then went tolive at the ranch and slow-ly moved from a backhouse on the 40-acrespread to the owner,
George Spahn's house,which, she said, theycleaned up and painted.
But, sh e kept repeating,"Manson wa s never ou rleader. He'd follow us. Allhe had to d o when he gotout of jail was to do thingsfo r us. We'd mention onething, and he'd lookaround and pretty soonwe'd have i t W e did whatwomen should do."
"Charlie," she said,"used to walk, off whenwe'd get feisty — and we'dstraighten up. We all lovedCharlie. We loved love.
"W E L O V E M r. Bugliosi(chief prosecutor VincentBugliosi) too, and he'strying to kill us."
Manson, she said tender-ly, "was a father whoknew it was good to makelove."
"Making love to Charlie. . . was guiltless . . . likea baby . He has no e v f l inh im ."
Samuel Barrett, Man-son's probation o f f i c e r fo rmore than a year beforethe Tate-La Bianca kill-ings, however, claimedthat the ex-convict's four-inch high file didn't showh e ha d been an angel fo r36 years.
A l t h o u g h Barre t t refusedto release th e Federalf i l e s of Manson's prison
record to th e court, he ad-mitted that the hippie le'ad-er had been neglected byhis mo t h e r at an early ageand spent 23 of his 36years in prisons or institu-tions.. E A R L I E R , M r s . J a n eVa n H o u t e n , a Monrov iaschool teacher and L eslie'smother f o u g h t back t ea rsas she told of her daugh-t er 's l i f e before mee t ingth e "family."
Composed, but cont inu-ously dabbing at tears, sh ewas the second mother at-tempt ing to convince th efive-woman, seven-manjury tha t the defendantsshould not go to the gaschamber for the seven bru-tal killings. Th e jury is todecide whether they willspend the rest of theirlives in prison or die in theSan Quentin gas chamber.
Mrs . Van Houten told astory of a girl who untilher sophomore year inhigh school w a s f u l l o f life,a le ader and obviouslypopular with he r class-mates, who elected her toclass o f f i c e and named her"homecoming p r incess"for two years.
Then, her personalitychanged, apparently be -cause of an unhappy ro -mance and she becamewithdrawn. H er schoolgrades suffered and sheIdropped out of school ac-tivities.
Mrs. Van Houten de-scribed he r daughter as a"joiner" who had a "won-d e r f u l sense of h u mo r . "
Mrs . Van Houten thendescribed an alienationwith he r family which be-gan when sh e enrolled in abusiness school in LongBeach.
Following graduationfrom th e business schoolwhere she hoped to be-come a legal secretary,Leslie telephoned he r
mother to say she wasgoing to the desert in Vic-torvfile with /friends, andwould look for a job assoon as fall came.
She never r e t u r n e dhome, her .mother said,and later ended up in SanFrancisco.
IN *THE ear ly f a l l of
1968, Leslie called home."She said she was going todrop ou t and I Wouldn' t behearing from her." Mrs.Van Houten testified. "Wehad a heated argument onthe phone and I didn' t hearfrom he r after that."
She said that in A pril of196 9 she had a telephonecall from her daughter whohad been picked up by po-lice as she was hitchhikingon a freeway in Reseda .
A Long Beach chiroprac-tor whose license w as dis-played in a, Market Streetmassage parlor w as con-victed Tuesday of operat-ing a house of prostitutionthere.
Municipal Court JudgeElsworth M . Beam, whoheard the case without ajury, commented that Dr .David R. Hill continued todisplay hi s license as par tof the massage parlor
front e v e n . after vice o f f i -cers twice arrested' on ?
girl there.
Hill's attorney, SheldonAndelson, said evidencecontradicted the prosecu-
tion's claim that he wasmanager of the operation
at 905 E. Market St ."He wasn't there. He
wasn't running th e place,"said Andelson of Dr. Hill,wh o lists his chiropractico f f i c e at 824 Redondo Ave.
To be tried later on acharge that she w as co-proprietor wa s GraceEleanor Young, 35, abrown-eyed 133-pound bru-nette. She is recuperatingf r o m surgery.
M en Found
iaih M urderTwo me n , accused of the
acid-bath killing of a Para-mount m an last June ,were convicted of murderTuesday in L os AngelesSuperior Court.
The penalty phase of thetr ial of Dennis W ayne Wal-lace, 30, and Joseph FrankSamson, 35 , begins today
Suspect, Wounded in Holdup, Is Dead
• A n armed robbery sus-
pect, wounded, by a Wil-
lowbrook gas station at-tendan t during a holdup,died Tuesday in St. Fran-
cis Hospital, Lynwood .Sheriff's homicide inves-
tigators identified the sus-pect as Larry Topps, 18, of10509 S. W ilmington Ave.,Willowbrook.
before Judge William B.Keene.
The defendants ' werefound' guilty of the murde rof James Summer*, 32, of8&4 Wilbam St., last June3. The v ictim w as beateno n the' head with a crow- 'bar and garrotted beforebeing put in a bathtub ofsulfuric acid.
Lakewood sheriff's depu- -ties, responding to a bur-glary call at th e WilbarnStreet address a day la ter , f o u n d Wallace biding in
: th e attic with the remains
of Summers in a smallplastic bag.
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