Keep your plan' lie among 'biggest Pinocchios of 2013

This is a rush transcript coming from "The Five," December 16, 2013. This kind of copy may not takeits final form and may end up being updated.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Kimberly Guilfoyle, in supplement to BobBeckel, Eric Bolling, Dana Perino as well as Greg Gutfeld.

It's 5 o'clock in new York Area -- and in addition this is "The Five."

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GUILFOYLE: Well, The Particular Washington post just released their ten biggest Pinocchios of yourseason -- also referred to as lies -- along with guess what topped your list.

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PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: In case you prefer your own health care plan, you'll be able tomaintain your own well being treatment plan, period.

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GUILFOYLE: As Well As bear throughout mind after the president got caught in that lie, he lied bywhat he had actually said.

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OBAMA: When you've or had certainly one of these plans before the Inexpensive Treatment Actcame into law, and you actually like this plan, well what we've mentioned had been you might keepit. If it hasn't changed since the law features passed.

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GUILFOYLE: How charming.

Even the actual presidents' defenders tend to be finding it impossible to square simply by him.

Here is actually liberal Washington Publish columnist Dana Milbank.

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DANA MILBANK, THE WASHINGTON POST: This kind of is truly a reduced point. We do certainlynot know if it's the lowest, however it is truly a suprisingly low point inside the Obamaadministration. The idea doesn't assist to get neutral groups calling a person your liar with the year.

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GUILFOYLE: So, I'm left wondering, how lower can you go?

Bolling?

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ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Well, maybe he's hit -- as way since the lie in the year, I can't imagineyou can top which one. I haven't any concept in that you go from there.

GUILFOYLE: Credibility, polling.

BOLLING: Yet there was also something "The Washington Post" talking about what your candidatesinside 2014 are generally going to run using and to their particular surprises, the particularRepublican candidates weren't planning to operate on economy as well as jobs, these were likely toremain in ObamaCare.

Well, guess what? That's an excellent reason, because this isn't planning to go away. This kind of ismerely what President Obama lied about wasn't about the website. the web site is actually stillwhich consists of problems, once the web site comes back. Exactly what President Obama had beenlying regarding -- based on "The Washington Post" -- we are generally able to say it now, "TheWashington Post" along with PolitiFact -- what he could be lying about will become the nuts andbolts associated with ObamaCare.

No, you can easily not keep the doctor. No, you can not keep the policy. No, it isn't planning to set aperson back less. No, we tend to be truly not bending the particular expense curve down. Just AboutAll of these things that Republicans need to operate on.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: It's the only factor that they find to run about since your economy will beobtaining a fantastic deal better. I read The Particular Monetary Times, the particular headline was,"United States leads the world from bad economic times."

BOLLING: Remain in ObamaCare, though.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Regarding the particular rich people.

GUILFOYLE: Bob wrote the particular headline. Almost All right. That's Fox News.

Dana --

BECKEL: Hey, hey. I was lacking my Wi-Fi connected or I would have known.

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GUILFOYLE: Why? Ended Up Being it connected to the ObamaCare website?

BECKEL: No, it ended up being not working. That must get working.

GUILFOYLE: So, Dana --

PERINO: Or Even Dana can be planning to use a match about air.

GUILFOYLE: There was a small bit of meltdown earlier.

Let me request anyone -- is just just like a communications bummer, to make use of a technical,political term?

PERINO: I feel that Dana Milbank deserves the actual understatement in the year. While he says itisn't helpful in which third party teams or perhaps so-called neutral groups tend to be stating thatyou lied, that isn't helpful. Right. I think he gets your understatement of the year.

And, look, I believe Dana Milbank, he's an equal chance analyst when he is coming after you, he maybe brutal. Yet when he's likely right after your own opponent, it's delicious. I adore it.

Here's my problem with this total thing -- yes, I consider it was the actual lie of year throughout2010. However I consider it absolutely was your lie of year of 2010, and had the actual media notcriticized -- spent their own moment criticizing folks similar to maybe individuals at this table whowere stating the law wasn't planning to work well, or even work too as these folks were declaring ithad been going to, these folks were actually criticizing us rather than concentrating about the law.

And there's actually that will Politico that deep dyed in the magazine, that will looked at yourmedia's role and never asking tough questions, and also now, all of the sudden, they are trying topick up your bits of the president's policy.

GUILFOYLE: I think you prefer him, simply because Dana to become able to Dana --

PERINO: Dana Milbank as well as I are incredibly close.

GUILFOYLE: Really close, separated by (INAUDIBLE).

PERINO: Right, Dana?

GUILFOYLE: OK. Greg, what do you make of your situation? Does one agree along together withyour co-host here?

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Exactly what the lady said.

GUILFOYLE: the 2010 lie?

GUTFELD: But, you know, does the -- I consider the problem the White Home offers today is actuallywhich they believed they might outlast this new cycle, which in turn they have, with almost everysingle crisis they've moved past, whether or perhaps not it's Benghazi, the particular IRS, DOJ.Nevertheless they can't see through this as well as the reason is truly because ObamaCare can endup being a perpetual motion machine involving misery, the diarrhea involving crisis and it cannot bestopped.

Going again for you to that which in turn you said, the actual lesson here for all is how would youstop collusion involving the media and the White house prior for an election, that is specifically whathappened with ObamaCare, Benghazi, the IRS, the particular regulations --

PERINO: Right, Fast and Furious.

GUTFELD: Fast along with Furious.

The media bashing Obama now is as an inmate pretending to find God right after he's in jail. Thiswould are already nice which he discovered religion after he mugged which family.

PERINO: Right.

GUTFELD: And, you know, once he gets out of jail, he's likely to go again to mugging, and also that'sthe way your media is. They're likely to become critical involving Obama then once a new liberalarrives along, they're going being deeply throughout enjoy with these again.

BOLLING: can I followup about that? I completely agree, one hundred percent. Let's just take it in asports -- we'll do a sports analogy.

So, when Barry Bonds, once they found out he has been juicing and had been hitting dozens of homeruns, and many types of those some other people were hitting all those residence runs, they desireto place an asterisk, right? That They want to place an asterisk within the record books.

GUILFOYLE: Yes.

BOLLING: Anyone recognize what? Now that we know, now in which The Particular Washingtonpost as well as PolitiFact just calling this the important lie, the particular lie in the year, it had beenany lie, President Obama was pouting this lie inside 2011, throughout the whole re-electioncampaign, we ought to place an asterisk next towards the president's get throughout 2012.

GUTFELD: It's his steroids. That's his steroids.

BOLLING: That's specifically right.

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GUILFOYLE: Lying is his juice.

OK, Bob, I'm positive an individual wholeheartedly agree along with this.

BECKEL: Well, initial of all, most I would the very excellent news concerning Benghazi, in thewedding you didn't recognize this weekend, it had been revealed the actual CIA by themselves saidthey will would stand down. However leaving which aside, this is -- unlike your Fast and alsoFurious, as well as unlike Benghazi, this 1 -- as Greg pointed -- offers got constantly new stories. Thisspecific is one a person reached possess to look at the election year, you can easily see this being anissue along with leaving it to up -- up to you guys, it will be an issue each day. And Also when Ithought we were carried out by that will everybody died because involving it however we discoverednew ways to get to become able to it.

GUILFOYLE: We've got much more ways -- Dana.

PERINO: Well, just to that particular point, I sent about -- upon our pitch thread, our e-mail threadthat people talked about, I sent any paragraph in the telegraph yesterday within the U.K., thatbasically has been that the National Well Being Support basically features declared any nationaldisaster. These stories take presctiption leading web page each day since your National healthservice had been started. Therefore why don't we ever study on his or her mistakes.

GUTFELD: Yes. A Person know what it is, ObamaCare will end up being the potatoes involving crisis.

Anyone can make therefore many various meals out of it.

GUILFOYLE: I enjoy potatoes.

GUTFELD: Each and Every day, an individual got French fries about Monday. In Tuesday, you havegot --

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GUTFELD: Salad and potatoes, it doesn't end.

GUILFOYLE: The idea is actually delicious, with an added dose involving ketchup.

BECKEL: can I inquire a simple question?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, I'm likely to hammer a person a range of more.

BECKEL: Oh, you practically certainly are.

But let's assume this almost all unfolds exactly where you all say it's likely to unfold. That Will meansit's likely to become tens regarding thousands involving people with out insurance next year? Imean, is that possible?

GUILFOYLE: Bob, that's why you have any problem.

BOLLING: And Also tens involving millions much more already.

BECKEL: OK. So, which means what they do they do? They Will obtain everybody to end up beingable to crowd inside the emergency room?

BOLLING: See? This is actually a fantastic question, Bob. Exactly what could they be doing now?

GUILFOYLE: That They are heading for the emergency room.

BOLLING: Exactly.

GUILFOYLE: This specific is the thing that we've been saying.

PERINO: Well, just about all one other items that could take place if the government changes, whenthe Republicans just take over, there could be significant changes when the president would thenend up being inside a situation to possess to refuse to be able to a thing that the united states justvoted for. Nevertheless in addition in the event the marketplace were able to work, the individualsmight be in the position to discover other ways being in a new position to obtain care.

But may I inform you something, Bob?

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BECKEL: -- with regard to years. Consequently what are the results -- I'm certainly not get this to --I'm certainly not arguing here. I just need to know, what happens?

GUILFOYLE: However I'll let anyone know what different --

BOLLING: They Will acquire insurance as well as they're planning to pay the one % of one's adjustedgross income.

PERINO: Along With they will reside using a huge quantity associated with anxiety that they don'thave the insurance before ObamaCare.

GUILFOYLE: Well, a new handful of issues too, since Bob will be the king of polls. An Individualknow, Obama is within problems because his mattress of support, his small sleepy support has beenthe actual millennials, you understand the new poll numbers, the actual AP numbers, et cetera. AsWell As then also, millennials over ObamaCare, almost four within 5 say ObamaCare will worseninsurance coverage.

This is truly a problem. This specific is a group he strongly relied in regarding his popularity,regarding his presidency, regarding his political will to get items done, also it providescompromised, severely battle-tested as of this point.

BECKEL: It's also, I mean, the one thing that might be concerned me if I had been sitting within theWhite house now, can be it's in addition the least effected through ObamaCare. Inside some otherwords, that they might find yourself spending a few fines however they don't consider they're likelyto require insurance just about all which much.

So, the actual proven fact that it's a soft there is a bit of your problem, especially if a person arecoming as significantly as such items as immigration, where that they really will need small voters toset their own voices to it.

GUILFOYLE: As Well As your paperwork will be behind too, pertaining to ObamaCare.

GUTFELD: What I'm dreaming about is usually that somehow ObamaCare is a vaccine againstintrusive government within the method that the actual vaccine has the toxin in it and it providesinoculation against further stupidity. I doubt that will happen.

GUILFOYLE: Nevertheless wishful thinking in simply no way hurt.

BOLLING: The Particular concern is it's so big.

GUTFELD: Yes.

GUILFOYLE: Right.

BOLLING: An Individual know, the vaccine, any polio vaccine can be a bit touch of the polio disease,or even whatever. This can be one-sixth with the economy.

Can I just point out his or her millennials?

BOLLING: Harvard would their extremely own study, Harvard, OK? not I wouldn't call them rightwingers.

GUILFOYLE: Well, your professors are.

BOLLING: Harvard id this study, asking millennials what -- how most likely they were to be able tojoin Obama care? Forty-five % said unlikely, simply 22 percent mentioned most likely andfurthermore the rest weren't sure.

PERINO: However, nearly all kids in which visit Harvard are in a new position to have employersponsored medical wellness insurance simply because those are the kids that really could --

BOLLING: I'm uncertain what that will that's the items they tend to be doing. They're literallypolling them, would you, do you need to or even will you not? Any time a pair of to 1 in the liberalplace such as Harvard say --

BECKEL: Using every little thing being so negative, who'd subscribe to it?

GUILFOYLE: I know, but, Bob, here's yet another thing, ObamaCare rollout, AP poll, Americansupon how it's doing, not really well, 76 percent.

BECKEL: Associated With course.

GUILFOYLE: Along With very well, 3 percent.

BECKEL: Yes, but why would you say assume anything else? They Will are already bombarded eachalong with every day with the problems involving ObamaCare.

PERINO: These People are usually bombarded as the complaints are real. the media isn't generatingup your problem.

BECKEL: I feel a few are catching --

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BECKEL: And That Will I additionally believe that around the poll for that millennials, I has beensurprised it truly is not merely in regards in order to the website, millennials recognize how a personcan use technology, yet I thought your initial polling would show that these folks were offendedwhich the us government is indeed bad at carrying out only the basic if this comes towards thewebsite and the technology, nevertheless it can appear to become more.

GUTFELD: Yet your media, you can't count all of them out. These People will frame a largegovernment disaster as the possible anomaly. Throughout a progressive world, each and everysingle failure is always an anomaly or even an exception even inside the deficiency of just about anysuccess. When there isn't any -- success is the anomaly in the progressive world. Somehow, they'vemanaged everybody in order to think oahu is the reverse.

BECKEL: I have zero idea what an anomaly is actually nevertheless it sounds like a a harmful thingwith regards to --

GUTFELD: It's any chocolate.

BECEKL: Well, I believe --

GUILFOYLE: Certainly Not good for you together with your guide, Bob. However what's great isusually to repeat this - Charles Krauthammer, this is through December 13th in PBS -- behold

Charles.

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CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: I adore how you guys just can't delay tohave your own teeth directly into Republicans throwing mud in Republicans. on weekly when thisadministration -- through the way, the actual viewers, you tend to be not likely to hear of a phraseabout a weekend which the particular secretary associated with HHS unilaterally and lawlesslychanged each along with every deadline within the ObamaCare law without having just about anylegal authority within the means which is absolutely astonishing. However you won't hear relating inorder to this about this show. Thus --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We just did.

KRAUTHAMMER: -- attempt Fox.

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GUILFOYLE: Courageous to share with it enjoy it is. In Which ended up being my favorite aha-moment of the weekend. you can get Charles Krauthammer for the complete hour this Wednesday,the following upon "The Five," 5:00 p.m. Eastern. So, we hope you'll be any portion of us around theticket.

BECKEL: As a lot as I adore Charles, he's any panelist about in which show, it's closing right aftersubsequent week. A Person stated to consider a new shot, which was time to consider a shot.

PERINO: He's been about 30 years, Bob.

BECKEL: I know, but it is closing. It's down.

PERINO: Which says more about PBS than Charles.

GUILFOYLE: Charles likes to end up being able to rain in parades.

BOLLING: Charles is aware of his timing.

PERINO: Which seems right.

GUILFOYLE: He's the actual ambassador of timing.

Bolling, you've one last remark upon that, and also then, Greg? That was a good one.

Greg?

GUTFELD: Almost All I am aware will be I think there ought to be a metal band namedKrauthammer. This sound just like --

PERINO: It's any German metal band.

GUTFELD: Yes, German metal. That would be awesome. Krauthammer!

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PERINO: An Individual didn't me a new last thought.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, I'm giving you. Go ahead.

PERINO: My final thought can be please, I beg you, Wi-Fi guy, result throughout the Wi-Fi functionprior to I use a conniption.

BECKEL: Yes, please? and I had to listen to it, OK?

GUILFOYLE: OK.

BECKEL: And, by the way, your Germans have got great movies.

GUILFOLE: Yes, we're on obvious concerning the mental wellness you might be getting fromObamaCare.

But next, since we are just acquiring started, Football Hall of Famer Jim Brown had high hopes forPresident Obama when he campaigned regarding him throughout 2008, but his hope features lookedto disappointment and he's going to tell why.

And later, the season finale shocker upon "Homeland", could it have got been the bad or perhapsgood ending for you to among the hottest exhibits on TV. Eric provides several thoughts.

Stay correct here. We'll be proper back.

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PERINO: Strong start for the week, Joshua.

All right. Welcome back for you to "The Five."

The African-American community features overwhelmingly supported the Democratic Partypertaining to decades. So, it's an uphill battle for the Republican Party to create in-roads within theblack community. Stephen A. Smith is really a sports commentator which is acknowledged forspeaking his thoughts and he thinks black conservatives require to become heard.

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STEPHEN SMITH, FIRST TAKE CO-HOST: The Particular black population hasn't becauseassociated with the Republican Party a lot more than 15 % of its vote since 1964. As Well As anybodywho is deemed a black conservatism, I'm one of them, the registered impartial -- just to have whichout with the way. but those in which I am aware who are black conservatives are thought pariahsand therefore are ostracized inside our communities, also it helps make simply no sense whatsoever.

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PERINO: So, we're planning to kick this around a bit bit.

We do also, in the commercial break, I would say which is probably the most essential part of the

show that you don't obtain for you to see. We have a debate as to where can the particular termgridiron originates plus they just threw a picture which usually I don't think --

BECKEL: the original football field.

GUILFOYLE: Oh my God.

BECKEL: No, this can be the actual original football area it. The idea would become a gridiron. APair Of lines going both ways. anybody knows, send us in the tweeter.

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PERINO: May a person explain why it is?

BOLLING: I think gridiron, it had been applied to some football field because it looked that way inthe stands. Yet the particular gridiron, the original cooking surface pertaining to drilling.

PERINO: Perform you realize why which matters today?

BOLLING: No.

PERINO: Upon topic. Another audio bite which we have can be from Jim Brown.

GUILFOYLE: Oh my God.

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JIM BROWN, FORMER NFL FOOTBALL PLAYER: Somehow it seems just like he's more than hishead. I did, together with my wife and in addition the Rooneys, campaign for him throughout Ohiosimply because which was an integral state. Nevertheless if I had to say can he rate an A, will heprice the D., it could be extremely difficult. I'd give him any C.

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PERINO: OK. So, those are usually words, Kimberly, in which from Jim Brown in rating with thepresident. Precisely what can you consider that?

GUILFOYLE: Look, what I such as is for folks to be open up and also honest and also vocal regardingthese things. I believe if you have an opinion concerning that, it's not really well-liked for you tocriticize the particular president but I do appreciate candor and honesty, and they are usuallyentitled as in order to the their beliefs, what they think.

Whether it's Steven Smith or whether it's, you know, Jim Brown, along with Jim Brown in manyoccasions any controversial individual.

But I think he could be voicing exactly what a great offer of folks feel, whether or even not you'rewhite, or black, or perhaps Hispanic or perhaps Asian within America, that you supported a guywhich you had higher beliefs in, plus it features fallen brief and individuals are left seeking for moreas well as sensation disappointed.

PERINO: Greg, you've talked prior to black intellectuals along with conservatives which are

ostracized in the neighborhood or perhaps produced enjoyable of. Perform you imagine that thereexists a turning point here or possibly is this just an anomaly to utilize a new phrase in the very first--

GUTFELD: I don't know. Within my opinion, black conservatism is really a cancer in liberalism. Incase it spreads, they're dead, since it will break the particular hold of this racial warfare whichseems to become type of his or her go-to weapon against Republicanism.

You understand what a accurate radical is actually a black conservative simply because Hollywooddoesn't know they exist. In case you try to find them as becoming a character in virtually any show,they aren't there.

There is only one black conservative I may think of as well as that's Darth Vader.

GUILFOYLE: Oh my God. Aren't anyone glad?

BECKEL: I feel it sounds as if, black conservatives, they are ostracized and many kinds of regardingthat. They're possibly true, but within addition the things they say doesn't create sense.

GUTFELD: Well, who?

PERINO: Really?

BECKEL: Thomas Sowell.

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GUILFOYLE: What are an individual currently talking about? He's a new genius, Bob.

BECKEL: I don't agree having an awful large quantity of what he says.

GUILFOYLE: but that's various via saying it doesn't help make sense.

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GUTFELD: Anyone can easily disagree together with these people however, you shouldn't say whathe was quoted saying is actually nonsense, right?

BECKEL: I didn't say it was nonsense. I said I don't agree using him.

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GUILFOYLE: No, you also declared it really does not create a lot of sense.

BECKEL: Are Usually an individual wanting to pinpoint my -- an individual pick out my phrases now?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, in a sentence diagram you played.

PERINO: let me ask you, in the wedding you had been advising Republicans who're taking a peek at2014 along with beyond since they wish to along with have to grow his or her voting base -- when itcomes to end up being able to African-Americans, what could you say is the best type regarding

message that the Republicans, according to principle, can easily deliver?

BOLLING: Well, again, I do not really want to become hypocritical, I think your Republicans within2014 need to remain on ObamaCare. I wouldn't play around during these issues. I wouldn't playaround together with contraception as well as none involving that.

Stay in ObamaCare.

But I find it interesting, James Brown, Stephen A. Smith, that's fantastic -- speaking the way in whichthey will discover it. That's great.

But here is the issue -- blacks, I believe, voted regarding President Obama within excessive involving90 percent.

PERINO: Ninety-three percent.

BOLLING: Ninety-three percent.

And I consider the actual approval rating among blacks can be still almost 89 percent. I believe thiswill be the number. Yet if you take a look at what's gone on since President Obama offers held office,the particular black unemployment rate has really widened compared in order to white. Therefore ithad been historically about double the white unemployment charge as well as choose to go down 1.6percent or 1.7 occasions what are usually the white unemployment had been right prior for you tothe presidency. Along With now, it's more than 2.2 % times what are usually the whites are.

So the actual blacks are generally losing ground compared to whites within the last five-years belowPresident Obama, I can't imagine that will be -- that demand as well as command, 89 percentapproval rating.

GUILFOYLE: However are those facts getting in order to them. That's your point.

BOLLING: I do certainly not know why it isn't getting in order to them. I don't know.

BECKEL: That usually kind of follows on which happens inside the white community. Very firstregarding all, the economical is actually needs to boom, range one. We don't talk about that willinside our show.

BOLLING: but whites tend to be outpacing blacks.

BECKEL: These People are generally plus they generally do along with grow the particular economy.

GUILFOYLE: Nevertheless don't you value that, Bob?

BECKEL: Will I care about that? Is that a new fair question? Should I treatment about? Obviously Icare about it.

GUILFOYLE: I want to listen to the statement on it.

BECKEL: However I don't believe it is Obama's fault along with I'm not really quitting virtually anyfaith throughout Obama. I think he's going being just fine.

BOLLING: No, however should you are usually section of your black community and also you maywell be seeing that you're losing ground. You're not really getting far better below this -- belowObamanomics, would a person like much a lot more of it? Do you would like to vote with regard to 4more years?

BECKEL: I don't consider they're losing ground. I think the other crowd will be moving ahead,shifting forward --

BOLLING: Nevertheless can I -- Dana, may I, I'm sorry, isn't that exactly the particular sameargument we had together with incoming equality? Along With now you are using another aspect ofthat exact argument.

BECKEL: No, I'm not. I don't consider I am.

PERINO: Allow me ask, Greg, in the large event you had been the conservative black intellectindividual and in addition you wanted to produce inroads in Hollywood. Do you think there's anyhope there? And Also should they abandon it?

GUTFELD: I don't consider there's any hope. Nonetheless --

GUILFOYLE: I don't believe --

GUTFELD: I don't consider -- no, I feel -- this is a extended -- it's really a long battle. The idea is notwith regards to skin color, it's about skin thickness. You've got being difficult should you certainlytend to be a black conservative simply because you are facing the particular white left inside themedia who are angry they have no effect upon you. So, you've got to become an Allen West and justsay, just screw you guys, I don't treatment what Beauty salon as well as Slate or the New York timesthinks, I don't care.

PERINO: Most right. I believed which was excellent.

GUILFOYLE: you kind of remind me, though, of a black conservative.

Right?

(LAUGHTER)

BECKEL: Exactly Where do that come from?

GUILFOYLE: because he's not planning to back down through his opinions, he's likely to say what hethinks and that's that.

GUTFELD: My coronary heart will be black.

PERINO: OK, we're likely to ponder that will inside the commercial break, maybe inform you aboutthis about the other side.

Coming up, much more disturbing studies in regards to be able to the Mandela signal languageinterpreter, a controversial QB wins your Heisman trophy, and a secret admission coming fromSusan Sarandon, next on "The Five."

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BOLLING: Welcome back, everybody.

To yet another installment in the fastest segment in TV news. 3 hot topics, seven fast minutes, 1enthusiastic TV host.

First up, our previous friend, the fake interpreter having the total "Saturday Night Live" remedy thisweekend. Watch.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I are already listening, to what -- as for you to the Americans are usuallysaying. and a few really valid concerns are being raised.

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BOLLING: Well, adding towards the mystery, you will find reports that the interpreter provides extraburning a couple of visitors to his rap sheet, alongside rape, murder and also pretending to realizesign language.

K.G., you chimed within there. Go ahead.

GUILFOYLE: I know. I mean, this story is actually actually really horrible. The Actual merely decentpart was your "Saturday Night Live" aspect involving it.

But how would that they certainly not catch this guy? How is the proven fact that he's just like -- no,yet I'm proclaiming that he's performed this before. He's been interpreting as well as he's just justlike a criminal? does it get significantly worse?

BOLLING: Dana, your thoughts in this guy.

PERINO: Properly I read somewhere that among the reason why the actual South Africangovernment is actually attempting to explain what happened, they think somebody took the best bid,which doesn't generally occur within government. but in this case, that they got what they paid for.

I do feel it could be time for a person personally to type of bury this -- permit this to story go rightafter this one. We obviously -- he's the deranged one who requirements assist and never should havebeen near all associated with those dignitaries, especially the president.

GUILFOYLE: Poor security breach.

BECKEL: He had been accused using a team of the other individuals involving killing individuals bysimply putting ties around their particular neck as well as starting fires, which is among the actualnastiest ways through the uprising in Soweto, that had been the actual black township outsideregarding Johannesburg that's basically performing certainly 1 of the particular nastiest things inthe world. Everybody else got arrested nevertheless he got returned home because he was insane.

GUTFELD: Yes.

BOLLING: Thoughts?

GUTFELD: The idea just tells you how screwed up south Africa is. This particular guy got so close.The Actual mental import involving the event allowed a new loosening of standard associated withprotection with regard to our president.

Our president wouldn't allow that will for you to happen throughout some other circumstancenevertheless they allowed it here as it was an emotional event and perhaps our White house security-- or the Secret Support didn't want to produce the stink from it, however they shouldn't haveallowed this to happen.

GUILFOYLE: but these people should have.

BOLLING: We've have got to transfer on. We've have got to move.

Next story, the story we talk about final week -- Florida State star and storied quarterback JameisWinston is now in a new position to add Heisman award winner to become able to his bio.

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JAMEIS WINSTON, FLORIDA STATE QUARTERBACK: I trustworthy in the method that evaluatefacts and truth can be deliver a good outcomes simply because out of most associated with the itemsI've been by means of yesteryear month, I keep in mind when my daddy reliable inside the procedurewhen he risked his occupation and -- along with ended up being jobless three a extended time ago,when I has been available performing whatever I would to supply with regard to my family, howeverthe truth prevailed since eventually I got me the scholarship. This specific Heisman isn't just forJameis Winston, it is for Florida State.

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BOLLING: Almost All right. Jameis won using a wide margin associated with votes, despite theactual fact that he could be clean off a controversial rape accusation, your state's attorney droppedthe charges. Along With now, Jameis Winston will always be the 2013 Heisman winner, theparticular youngest within Heisman history.

Bob, your thoughts on Jameis.

BECKEL: Well, 1st regarding all, he's the 2nd freshman inside a http://seoexpertstrategies.com/ rowto get this Heisman trophy, which is very unusual. However I believe obviously, about the numbers,he deserved it. Absolutely No problem concerning it.

But I nevertheless issue when he said he had a rough month, what about the woman that wentthrough the rape?

BOLLING: Greg?

GUTFELD: Yes, an individual know, the situation together with this actually is we concentratearound the person who won your trophy, what about the 314 million those who didn't? And Also itraises the actual question, why do you've to play football to get the actual Heisman trophy? Which isbigoted toward the actual uncoordinated in this country.

I'm boycotting just about all sports until I may be qualified for the Heisman.

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: You're technical eligible --

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: That's true.

BOLLING: Dana, your thoughts in Jameis.

PERINO: I guess facts are facts. This really is not just a character award as well as you can't arguealong with him.

BOLLING: K.G.?

GUILFOYLE: Offered your controversy and the naturel of the allegation regarding this, I mean, thereare a new lot of criticisms which the situation wasn't investigated fully, they didn't test your blood onthis case and also it's basically he said/she said comes sometimes as any result of just, anyone know,popularity contests in a few of these high-profile cases. It's really challenging.

PERINO: Doesn't he get to play yet another yr inside university just before he can play within thepros? As Well As -

BECKEL: No, he's got one more. I consider he has to always be able to go to sophomore, I feel that'sright.

BOLLING: Well, we're planning to leave it there, because we've to go on, because this really is ahuge one. Final one for today, at any kind of time surprise why individuals Hollywood types are soweird once they hit your award shows.

Susan Sarandon coming clean, thus to speak.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Title one Hollywood event that you showed up to stoned?

SUSAN SARANDON, ACTRESS: Simply one?

(LAUGHTER)

SARANDON: I would say virtually all except the Oscars.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, just concerning all except the Oscars. OK.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BOLLING: Nevertheless they are all baked. In Which explains the strange commentary. I don'tsmoke and I don't treatment what they do, however can't that they delay until following your show.

GUTFELD: No, absolutely not, I encourage them being high. That isn't the pot, that's the problem.It's the politics.

Perhaps if the lady was stoned most of the time, your woman wouldn't have got stupid politics.

BECKEL: A Person tend to be stoned the majority of your time, exactly what are your current points?

GUTFELD: that can be my point.

Responsible people having fun, I don't actually have a problem with it.

BOLLING: D?

PERINO: I was moved to make a new confession. How do you believe I make it through this showeach day? I imply --

GUTFELD: Anyone are baked right now.

PERINO: Obviously, you will find chemicals involved. I'm certainly not surprised.

GUILFOYLE: Are Usually anyone hungry?

PERINO: I think that most people with individuals award shows are saved to one thing becausethey're thus boring.

BECKEL: Are Usually you about Molly by simply just about any chance?

BOLLING: Do you realize Molly?

PERINO: I merely know what that is since you guys told me.

GUILFOYLE: Coming From Miley Cyrus.

BECKEL: The Particular term is actually going to acquire out. You're utilizing dope.

GUILFOYLE: No, your woman can be not. The Lady is very clean.

BECKEL: I don't admit for you to whatever I wasn't stoned for around 35 years.

GUILFOYLE: that explains a new lot. Poor Mondale, poor Mondale. that explains in which a new lot.

BECKEL: I'll tell you. I haven't any problem. A Amount Of with the situations are so boring, why not.I don't consider everybody must obtain stoned, however they do. This doesn't bother me.

BOLLING: K.G., weigh within in this.

GUILFOYLE: An Individual know, listen, they're going to do, it is a lifestyle choice. A Person know,nobody can be a infant sitter.

(CROSSTALK)

GUILFOYLE: I'm personally against it.

PERINO: Why?

GUILFOYLE: but that's my -- meaning, that isn't pertaining to me. I just similar to the red wine,that's it.

(CROSSTALK)

GUILOFOYLE: No, I don't. I mean, Dana doesn't either. Yet --

BOLLING: The idea is as rare a subject that people just about all agree with along with I believe allof us agree, do what you need to do, Hollywood.

BECKEL: A Person by zero means smoke dope within your life?

GUILFOYLE: I just don't believe it's planning to adjust their viewpoint thus much.

BOLLING: Listen, I'll have got cocktails until --

BECKEL: I know that.

(CROSSTALK)

GUIFOYLE: In Order To your face.

BOLLING: To End Up Being Able To the confront area -- but simply --

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: Point well taken, Kimberly. Is Actually there another way to take vodka that I'm certainlynot aware of?

BOLLING: Generally there actually is.

PERINO: There's not. There is not.

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: We're certainly not likely to speak about it.

Directly ahead, Santas running wild and brawling inside The Large Apple City, I child an individualnot. We're planning to let anyone know regarding a yearly tradition referred to as SantaCon.

GUILFOYLE: Zero way, Bob. are you kidding? you are kidding me.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GUTFELD: All Through Saturday, Ny endured SantaCon, where thousands of individuals dressed asSantas descended about Manhattan along with drank until that they puked. Here's a new taste.

(VIDEO CLIP OF BRAWL)

GUILFOYLE: Will Be that an elf?

GUTFELD: Oh, jeez.

Their excuse? It's regarding charity. Final year, your organizers raised 45,000 bucks regarding Toyspertaining to Tots. Hooray.

But look, my preferred charity are the bar keeps, the actual waiters, the particular bouncers, yourcops that were needed to function in which night, along with declaring this truly is pertaining tocharity is not an excuse for you to annoy the actual staff, or not tip or perhaps pee within someone'sdoorway. never mind the actual metropolis workers that need to deal with the rainbow involvingbodily fluid left behind.

Using charity to be able to excuse poor behavior can be OK in the wedding the charity outweighs theunhealthy behavior. I'm uncertain it can inside SantaCon.

My point? Consume up. but drinking is all about combining contemplation along with camaraderie.It's in no way an excuse for me to infringe on your great time as well as vice versa. We do certainlynot reveal a new blood stream. Simply an individual can feel your buzz. so your mindless babblingabout how precisely wasted you may well be isn't mutually enjoyed.

When I say people abuse the particular gift of alcohol, celebrate said. It's such as watching aninexperienced driver grind the gears of a beautiful sports car. I respect the drink, although not thedrunk.

The fact is, the particular greatest drinker must in no way reveal how hammered he is. the mark inthe pro is actually that you by simply no means know, which is why I'm seeing three Kimberlyscorrect now.

GUILFOYLE: A Person wish.

GUTFELD: but who's complaining? It's 3 Kimberlys.

(LAUGHTER)

GUTFELD: Am I a Grinch, Dana?

PERINO: Well, I have to say, if the topics came around this morning, when I heard you are headingto become against SantaCon, I had been shocked simply because I've go to inform you, in the UpperEast Side, these were perfectly delightful.

GUTFELD: Oh, on the Upper East Side, eh.

PERINO: Once I has been purchasing alongside Madison Avenue, running your ship's mate, saidhello, it was just a delightful afternoon.

BOLLING: Had Been he wearing a new Santa outfit?

PERINO: He wasn't wearing Santa con outfit, yet once we walk along the street, there's allregarding this -- your snow ended up being coming down. This was a lovely day. I did not know anyof the stuff ended up being likely on, nevertheless I blame 1 person.

GUTFELD: Who?

PERINO: De Blasio.

GUTFELD: Presently there a person go.

GUILFOYLE: Yes.

GUTFELD: It's the liberals, Bob.

GUILFOYLE: Pile it on.

GUTFELD: If it had not been for that liberals, this wouldn't happen.

BECKEL: Simply Because liberals dominate the Upper East Side, don't they?

The wealthy ones.

What were anyone performing about the Upper East Side?

PERINO: I has been shopping in my method to go to brunch along with you.

GUILFOYLE: The Girl had been stimulating the particular economy. Hello.

BECKEL: I've seen this factor during my neighborhood and additionally the guys come down andthey depart sober and they come back smashed plus they are generally loud. It is not giving Santa agood name, you know? I mean, it's just a negative idea, every 1 involving the way around. I do notreally know why anyone sanctioned it (ph). Anyone may give $45,000 as well as go door-to-door andyou'll raise additional money as compared to setting up with this crap.

GUTFELD: Yes. A Person know what, Eric?

And what if your youngster walks down the trail along with sees Santa vomiting?

GUILFOYLE: Which happened.

(LAUGHTER)

BOLLING: Exactly Where can you go? I guess, appear --

GUILFOYLE: Santa has a stomach virus.

BOLLING: Anyone have the right to drink. Drunks are generally bad. Drinking will be fine. Yet howcreepy to see these guys. Appear at the cheap shots.

GUILFOYLE: they are usually unhealthy elf.

BOLLING: Forget the ones fighting along with each other. That is the haymakers via leftfield. Wow.

BECKEL: And Also the particular elves throughout that, as well --

(CROSSTALK)

GUILFOYLE: Yes, the actual elves are very poor --

BOLLING: only eight citations handed out.

GUTFELD: Yes, it had been quite --

GUILFOYLE: Simply Because it truly is too hard to identify which in turn Santa does it.

They are like it absolutely was the other guy. That was the actual guy in the South Pole, happenedwithin the North Pole.

PERINO: the guy within the red hat.

BECKEL: and that's a great point. Simply Because when you're wearing a costume you believe youmay be entitled. I has been out in the road --

PERINO: and a person were within an elf costume.

GUTFELD: Yes. Inside a place called (INAUDIBLE), which didn't allow Santas in there. and I hasbeen smoking outside as well as Santa demanded my phone, Santa demanded my phone, simplybecause they will really feel if they're Santa, they ask regarding anything. As Well As that they grabpeople.

PERINO: did you give it in order to him?

GUTFELD: No.

PERINO: Do he tell you, acquire back again there inside and help to make a few toys. He's notnecessarily finished.

(CROSSTALK)

PERINO: Precisely what is the specialty throughout Santa store, when you may well be creating thetoys?

GUILFOYLE: Gee.

GUTFELD: She's lost the girl mind.

All right. We're done here.

Coming up, a new husband is shot as well as killed after likely Christmas purchasing along using hiswife at the mall. and there's a manhunt beneath approach for the shooter. the details when we occurback.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BECKEL: Greg's nevertheless searching for his "One more Thing," thus if anyone features any ideasyou may want to tweet him.

And anyway, Christmas buying turns deadly. Final night 30-year-old Dustin Friedland had been

killed right after he and his wife were carjacked outside a new shopping mall throughout NewJersey. His wife can be OK. Here's what happened.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Actual husband, your victim, had opened the doorway with regard tohis wife. Your Woman began to obtain in to the vehicle, and he got in the driver's aspect and alsostarted to obtain ready for you to go directly into the vehicle or enter the vehicle and he had beenapproached through a pair of males along with has been shot prior to he entered his vehicle.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BECKEL: There is actually a manhunt below way for the a couple of suspects, that fled within thecouple's SUV.

Now, I do not really want to begin the raging battle more than gun control here, Eric, yet NewJersey, yes, the particular guy ended up being shot.

BOLLING: new Jersey features a number of the highest gun control...

BECKEL: Right.

BOLLING: Consequently that's ridiculous. Nevertheless criminals obtain guns. Here's the actualissue. that mall -- I reside three miles through that will mall.

PERINO: Yes.

BOLLING: Which mall will be -- there's an region regarding affluence right next to an areaassociated with intense -- let's call it lower -- lower-class poverty. This kind of happens the lot. I'vehad three cars stolen.

GUILFOYLE: three Range Rovers. This specific was a Range Rover.

BOLLING: This particular was a Range -- important thing is this guy had been approached with hiswife coming out of the mall. A Pair Of carjackers approached and said, "Give me the keys." the guypushed back and stated no, truly advised the guys no. gets two bullets for the head as the wife endedup being standing there.

GUILFOYLE: Thirty numerous a long time of age.

BOLLING: and here's the particular moral in the story. Somebody approaches you and desires yourcar, you're intimidated, hand it over. the insurance...

BECKEL: Would anybody steal your car once you had been there?

BOLLING: I ended up being standing 15 feet via my automobile about the third theft. One other acouple of I was...

GUILFOYLE: May I just say one thing? Precisely what an individual mentioned will be one hundredpercent right. It's not really worth it. I mean, even if you do not have got insurance any kind of a lota lot more like Bolling, an individual ought to even now flip over your car, no issue what.

But we have zero idea pertaining to certain he refused. because the particular cops aren't declaringthat. I mean, there's a few speculation in which maybe he said something, since guess what? Heprobably doesn't want to turn more than his wife in order to some murderous thug, along with he'sworried about your ex safety along with so, a person know, it could sound right he sacrificed hisown. Thirty yrs . old as well as an attorney. Dustin Friedland.

BECKEL: That They discovered the car throughout Newark, which features a notoriously substantialcrime rate. Therefore are we in any position to draw a few conclusions here via that?

GUTFELD: Bob, my conclusion can be these guys is planning to be caught pretty quickly, becausethey will typically are. As Well As it's a fascinating crime since what could that they be likely to gainout of this? they can't offer your car. It's just a terrible crime. I don't even know what else in order tosay besides which it's awful.

GUILFOYLE: Yes. they dumped it.

BECKEL: Crime like this will -- And Also it bothers anyone about Christmastime, Dana. I mean,obviously, folks are available shopping. They've got any large quantity of cash as well as you havegot a lot...

PERINO: However you do not feel that an individual are -- it's -- certainly 1 of the great reasons forAmerica is actually we live in this totally free society in which -- where you have the governmentthat, via the particular taxpayer dollars, we pay for protection. Thus you merely assume -- and alsoyou have to in order to contact home your life -- you are heading to become OK in the wedding yougo towards the shopping center to get Christmas presents or whatever otherwise these werepurchasing for.

GUILFOYLE: Nevertheless they love to steal individuals Range Rovers.

PERINO: but it shatters your current confidence regarding becoming capable of go to school orfunction as well as just even shopping.

GUILFOYLE: Merely the particular short Hills Mall, 9 p.m. from night.

BOLLING: so similar to I said, 3 cars stolen for the major reason that area. I'm am more inclinednow -- it's extremely hard to have a new conceal hold license. I'm approach more inclined to have myNj-new Jersey conceal hold therefore that, if I'm confronted through a number of of these people -- Idon't know. I don't know, Bob. Your Current point concerning gun control, I feel this is -- this isbasically telling innocent civilians, the typical population, arm your self against these bad guys.

GUILFOYLE: Simply Because you're under siege.

BECKEL: Allow me inquire an individual concerning the demographics. An Individual said this maybe an affluent neighborhood correct subsequent to an undesirable neighborhood?

BOLLING: Yes, it's adjacent.

BECKEL: That's unusual to have something like that.

BOLLING: Well, one other part of the demographics of the and the logistics.

GUILFOYLE: Ten miles away.

BOLLING: Is Actually a person can certainly hit certainly one of the particular major arteries areavailable correct up to the -- for the ports along with a lot of time individuals cars go on boats andget shipped away.

GUILFOYLE: Along With that they do. they offer these cars. they strip out the VIN. There is actuallycertainly a large industry for it.

BECKEL: Well, these people stood a VIN on this one. That's the particular saddest part.

GUILFOYLE: Extremely popular. Don't yell.

BOLLING: There's a new murder involved.

GUILFOYLE: Don't yell.

BECKEL: I'm not going to yell from all, simply because which was not a happy story, and it wasmine. "One more Thing" expires next.

GUILFOYLE: Thanks, Bob.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GUILFOYLE: It's moment now with regard to "One A Lot More Thing." My gosh, the actualcommentary.

I possess a very, really cute story. I enjoy Pope Francis, and this can always be a charming smallshot you're planning to notice there. There's the pope, the particular people's pope, and in additionthe little boy was really fascinated with almost all the pontiff's small skull cap. He took it off. TheParticular pope loves children.

This ended up being at the Santa Marta Institute at the Vatican in which cares regarding sickchildren, provide medical care. As Well As you'll remember, regarding course, which he alsoreceived the actual distinction of TIME person of the Year. and one with the benefits can be hisquote. He said, "If the benefits is actually a individual of one's health (ph), spread what it's mostabout with the gospel, an email of God's love regarding everyone. He will surely end up being happyconcerning that."

I like him a fantastic deal -- Eric.

BOLLING: Just About All right. Really quickly, I wished to do some thing about the NSA as well aswhich complete thing, but we decided it has been not the proper time to suit your current needs todo it.

OK. Listen, fantastic, great "Homeland" Season three finale last night.

You've got to watch. I'm not planning to spoil it, however watch.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go, go, go! Driver, go!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BOLLING: all right. Therefore I'm not necessarily likely to spoil it pertaining to you. The Particularhuge question, really does Brody survive that will episode? A Person possess to see it. Allow merealize what you take in to consideration it. Hit me up in Facebook: Facebook.com/EricBolling, nospaces. Allow me know what you feel in the event you found it. Loved it.

GUILFOYLE: OK. Fantastic. that sounds good. I have to start using episode one, therefore I'll end upbeing acquiring back for you inside most likely the particular next three years, nevertheless hangtight regarding which opinion. It's likely to be a great one.

Greg.

GUTFELD: "Homeland" isn't any "Scandal." "Scandal" kills over "Homeland." Merely want to pointthat will out.

GUILFOYLE: I enjoy "Scandal." Zero way.

GUTFELD: "Scandal's" fantastic. Yes, it's a fantastic show.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God, I enjoy it.

BOLLING: Saturday night, we lost a legend, Peter O'Toole. He has been 81 a long time old. He'samong the particular greatest actors that actually lived. Along With this movie, if you've never seenany Peter O'Toole movie, start with "Lawrence associated with Arabia," while he plays this enigmaticfigure, T.E. Lawrence, and also it's an astounding movie. It's very long, nevertheless I've seen itmaybe five or even six times. I feel it's probably the actual greatest movie actually made, a lot betterthan "Citizen Kane" and also "Porky's."

But...

GUILFOYLE: "Porky's"?

GUTFELD: ... verify it out. a excellent man along together with a great character.

PERINO: Peter O'Toole, a fantastic Irishman.

GUTFELD: He was nominated eight occasions as well as by no means won an Oscar.

GUILFOYLE: He got an honorary Oscar, though. OK. Sorry. Go ahead.

BECKEL: OK. There's the sheriff from the name of John Cooke throughout Weld County, Colorado,who refuses in order to uphold the actual gun laws which were passed from the legislature in theaftermath associated with Aurora. He's not really alone. Presently there certainly are generally alarge amount of various other sheriffs within Colorado and around the country which don't do it.

It is the law, boys. And Also consequently I -- we utilized to become inside the consulting business.Allow me give you just a new little range that will I would use should you were gun control advocatesout in Colorado. and which is the authorities that won't stick to the law are damaging the law. As

Well As these people ought to become arrested.

GUILFOYLE: OK. Maybe these people could, like, arrest themselves. In Which would be so weird.OK, Dana.

PERINO: OK. Well, this is really a first. I am combining my a couple of favorite "One more Thing"topics in any single for that initial time. Ever.

GUTFELD: Can Be there one thing incorrect together with Jasper?

PERINO: This is about...

BECKEL: Oh, don't.

PERINO: ... Jasper as well as Dierks Bentley.

BECKEL: No, we practically created it.

PERINO: Dierks Bentley's folks, that they started receiving these photographs of people sending inselfies of items that these people cared a great deal about. And Also you'll end up being able to go on-- in the wedding you visit Instagram, if you hash tag Iholdon, you can also submit one. I does 1 withJasper, and I've driven Bob crazy.

Mission accomplished.

GUILFOYLE: Charming.

BECKEL: We almost made it.

GUILFOYLE: OK. Don't forget to be able to set your own DVR so you never miss an episode of "TheFive." We're likely to notice you proper again here tomorrow. "Special Report" can be next.

BECKEL: Fifty-nine-50.

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