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Investors’ Seminar
June 2010
Disclaimer
This is not Advice. Please see Mark before considering any changes. Mark will put any recommendations in writing
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which can fall as well as rise and can result in both capital losses and gains. Consequently, due to market influences,
no assurance can be given that all stated objectives will be achieved.
Realistic Goals
Structure/Strategy (Tax etc)
Super Fund Admin
Asset Mix 1 -Cash/TermDs needed
Asset Mix 2–Growth Section (LHS)
Stock-Picker Selection
The Boxes to Tick
Investors’ SeminarJune 2010
Today’s Seminar addresses events over the past year and:
1. How they affect:
Structure & Strategy
Asset Mix
Specific Investment Selection
2. What changes are needed
Issues to AddressJune 2010
Structure Matters – The 3 major reviews - Ripoll/Bowen, Cooper and Henry
Asset Mix Considerations – Sovereign Debt Crisis & the GFC
Specific Investments – Economic Conditions including Sovereign Debt, China etc
Structure – Government Policy
Henry/Rudd review
Simplify Tax………no
Complicate super vs non-super……no
Ripoll/Bowen
Fiduciary, transparency; commissions; opt-in
Cooper Review
My Super; SuperStream;
SMSF – minimal change
Structure – What Changes are needed?
Super & Pensions – planning for retirement unchanged
Tax & Centrelink Matters
SMSFs - Trust Deeds
- Investment Placement and monitoring
Asset Mix IssuesJune 2010
Sovereign Debt & the GFC
Globalisation
The Market Economy
Recap on the Global Financial Crisis : Debt – Western Consumers; Deleveraging
Sub-Prime in US; CDOs–and inter-bank transfers
Negative Cycle –Profits Drop; Unemployment increases; Consumer Confidence drops etc
***********************The Solution - Governments stimulating their economies. They had to borrow to do this! Hence now we have Sovereign Debt problems.
GFC Evolution
One of my favourite quotes:
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‘Experience is the best teacher, but its lessons are not cheap. Therefore we should avoid paying for the same lesson twice. Actually, there is no need for investors to make the same mistake more than once, there being no shortage of possible new mistakes to choose from.’
Robert Keavney, Centric Wealth, July 2009
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* Eurostat** The Economist Intelligence Unit as at 29 April 2010.*** OECD Data & Magellan Asset Management
-0.8%-2.8%13.4%164Ireland
-8.9%-9.9%10.1%164Portugal
-8.6%-10.9%11.3%237Greece
-0.2%0.5%11.8%338Belgium
-3.8%-5.3%20.1%1051Spain
-2.5%-3.1%8.3%1521Italy
2010 **2009***Rate**2009*
Current Account Deficit/ GDPUnemploymentGDP (EUR bn)Country
Europe - Key Economic Facts
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* Eurostat.** The World Bank Quarterly External Debt Statistics & Magellan Asset Management Ltd.*** The Economist Intelligence Unit as at 29 April 2010.
-12.5%-14.3%987.0%64.0%Ireland
-8.5%-9.4%233.0%76.8%Portugal
-9.4%-13.6%171.0%115.1%Greece
-6.6%-6.0%258.3%96.7%Belgium
-11.5%-11.2%168.5%53.2%Spain
-5.3%-5.3%119.0%115.8%Italy
2010***2009*20092009
Fiscal Deficit/ GDPExternal Debt/ GDP **Govt. Debt/ GDP*Country
Europe - Debt and Deficits
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Source: Eurostat, IMF, National Sources, Bloomberg. Forecast balances converted into US Dollars using spot exchange rates on 12 May 2010
7,9043 YEAR TOTAL
7.3%9.4%8.2%368 389312Japan
6.6%9.4%9.3%215 150207United Kingdom
995
1,550
2010
Total, Billions of USD
987 633
1,270 828
2011 2012
4.4%5.9%5.4%Europe
5.1%
2012
8.3%10.6%United States
Percentage Of GDP
2010 2011
Massive government borrowing needs…
Forecast Annual Budget Deficits
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…financed by a limited savings pool
Source: International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook, April 2010
3,7513 YEAR TOTAL
576489405Total, other surplus countries
917856Japan
73
493
2010
Total, Billions of USD
93
580
2011
114Germany
702
2012
China
Forecast Current Account Surplus Positions
Sovereign Debt
Governments are powerful because they can tax their constituents. But there is a limit.
Government Debt can be reduced by:
Increasing Tax
Decreasing Spending (but some areas are limited)
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Projected Govt debt (% of GDP)
(BIS projections)
1. No change
2. 5% deficit reduction
3. 5% reduction + age spend frozen
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2
3
5 farrelly’s
Government debt will not get to 400% of GDP
• If interest cost is 5%, interest = 20% of GDP
• At 10%, interest is 40% of GDP• Taxes normally between 20 to 30% of
GDP• Governments will cut spending &
increase taxes - eventually
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High debt = low growth
Impact of Government debt on GDP growth. (Developed countries 1946 -2009)
2.53.33.5Median GDP growth
-0.23.53.4Average real GDP growth
Debt above 90%
of GDP
Debt between 60 to 90% of
GDP
Debt less than 60% of GDP
Source : Rogoff and Reinhart, Growth in a time of debt
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Developed world worse than the PIGs…
(BIS projections)
1. No change
2. 5% deficit reduction
3. 5% reduction + age spend frozen
Economic Cycles
Consider some long-term cycles
Developed Nations – slower but some growth
Emerging Nations – good potential
The Wealth effect revisited
Emerging Markets – 500 years of Growth
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Emerging Markets – 500 years of Growth
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Magellan InfrastructureWhy Infrastructure – Increasing Opportunity Set
Source: Deloitte, World Bank, ASCE, McGill University, ProjectFinance,A&L Goodbody Consulting, Government of India
Canada faces a $60b annual infrastructure deficit. Investment needs for urban roads and bridges are $66b over 10 years.
The ASCE estimates US infrastructure investment needs to be $2.2 trillion over the next 5 years.
Latin America need projected at $71b
The EU has infrastructure needs that run into trillions of dollars. The energy sector is estimated to require $1.2 trillion over the next 20 years.
The govt of India estimates that it will need to invest approximately
$250b over the next 5 years.
The developing economies of East Asia need to invest $165b pa over the next 5
years
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W ealth jum ped
Household w ealth as a mu ltiple of annual disposable income
350%
450%
550%
650%
750%
850%
1960 1964 1968 1972 1976 1980 1984 1988 1992 1996 2000 2004 2008
S ource: A B S , R B A , A ccess E conom ics
Projections
What are the key timeframes:
0-2 years – no projections needed. Cash and Term Deposits cover all goals in this time frame
2-8 years – not necessary to invest in this timeframe if we can have a 10 year focus which incorporates better returns
10+ years – the key goals. Again we use the Tim Farrelly Projections
AssetMix
Australian SharesInternational Shares
Property
Term Deposits
Cash
17 farrelly’s
Total returns-an example
3.5%pa
EPS PE Price Contribution
$1.00 17 $17.00
$0.95 17 $16.15
$0.95 10 $9.50
-5%pa
-42%pa
Earnings Growth
Income
Sentiment
Total-43%pa
+
+
3 5 f a r r e l l y ’ s
1 0 Y e a r F o r e c a s t s a s a t J u n - 1 0
D i v i d e n d E a r n i n g s C e n t r a l
Y i e l d * G r o w t h F o r e c a s t
A u s t r a l i a n E q u i t i e s 5 . 5 % 3 . 6 % 0 . 8 % 9 . 9 % 1 4 . 8 x
A s s e t S e n t i m e n t P E
4 0 f a r r e l l y ’ s
1 0 Y e a r F o r e c a s t s a s a t J u n - 1 0
* I n c l u d e s e x p e c t e d c u r r e n c y g a i n
D i v i d e n d E a r n i n g s C e n t r a l
Y i e l d * G r o w t h F o r e c a s t
A u s t r a l i a n E q u i t i e s 5 . 5 % 3 . 6 % 0 . 8 % 9 . 9 % 1 4 . 8 x
I n t e r n a t i o n a l E q u i t i e s 4 . 3 % 5 . 3 % - 1 . 9 % 7 . 7 % 2 1 . 1 x
A s s e t S e n t i m e n t P E
4 1 f a r r e l l y ’ s
1 0 Y e a r F o r e c a s t s a s a t
D i v i d e n d E a r n i n g s C e n t r a l
Y i e l d * G r o w t h F o r e c a s t
A u s t r a l ia n E q u i t ie s 5 . 5 % 3 . 6 % 0 . 8 % 9 . 9 % 1 4 . 8 x
I n t e r n a t io n a l E q u i t ie s 4 . 3 % 5 . 3 % - 1 . 9 % 7 . 7 % 2 1 . 1 x
L i s t e d P r o p e r t y T r u s t s 6 . 0 % 2 . 1 % - 1 . 2 % 6 . 9 % 1 6 . 8 x
A s s e t S e n t i m e n t P E
* I n c l u d e s e x p e c t e d c u r r e n c y g a i n
J u n - 1 0
4 2 fa r re l l y ’ s
1 0 Y e a r F o r e c a s t s a s a t J u n - 1 0
* I n c l u d e s e x p e c t e d c u r r e n c y g a in
D iv i d e n d E a rn i n g s C e n t ra l
Y i e l d * G ro w th F o re c a s t
A u st r a lia n E q u it ie s 5 . 5 % 3 . 6 % 0 . 8 % 9 . 9 % 1 4 . 8 x
I n t e r n a t io n a l E q u it ie s 4 . 3 % 5 . 3 % - 1 . 9 % 7 . 7 % 2 1 . 1 x
L is t e d P r o p e r t y T r u s t s 6 . 0 % 2 . 1 % - 1 . 2 % 6 . 9 % 1 6 . 8 x
F ix e d I n te r e s t 6 .7 % 0 . 0 % 0 . 0 % 6 . 7 % 1 5 . 0 x
A s s e t S e n t i m e n t P E
4 5 fa rre lly ’s
1 0 Y e a r F o re c a s t s a s a t J u n - 1 0
* In c lu d e s e x p e c t e d c u rre n c y g a in
D iv i d e n d E a rn i n g s C e n t ra l
Y i e l d * G ro w th Fo re c a s t
A u st r a lia n E q u it ie s 5 .5 % 3 . 6 % 0 . 8 % 9 .9 % 1 4 . 8 x
I n t e rn a t io n a l E q u it ie s 4 .3 % 5 . 3 % - 1 . 9 % 7 .7 % 2 1 . 1 x
L is t e d P ro p e r t y T ru s t s 6 .0 % 2 . 1 % - 1 . 2 % 6 .9 % 1 6 . 8 x
F ix e d In t e re s t 6 .7 % 0 . 0 % 0 . 0 % 6 .7 % 1 5 . 0 x
R e si d e n t ia l P r o p e rty 2 .3 % 4 .5 % - 0 .8 % 6 .0 % 4 3 .5 x
A ss e t S e n ti m e n t P E
44 farrelly’s
Sydney and Melbourne house prices
$0
$100
$200
$300
$400
$500
$600
80 83 86 89 92 95 98 01 04 07
Sydney M elbourne
How much does the market pay for $1 of rent?
PE = 40
PE = 43
PE = 25PE = 11
farrelly’s
10 Year Forecasts as at Mar-09
*Includes expected currency gain
Dividend Earnings Central
Yield* Growth Forecast
Australian Equities 7.3% 1.5% 5.4% 14.2% 9.5 x
International Equities 4.4% 1.0% 7.7% 13.1% 8.4 x
Listed Property Trusts 9.3% 1.1% 2.0% 12.4% 10.8 x
Fixed Interest 4.2% 0.0% 0.0% 4.2% 24.0 x
Residential Property (Syd) 2.3% 4.5% -0.8% 6.0% 43.5 x
Asset Sentiment PE
farrelly’s
10 Year Forecasts as at Mar-07
*Includes expected currency gain
Dividend Earnings Central
Yield* Growth Forecast
Australian Equities 4.9% 1.6% -0.1% 6.4% 16.2 x
International Equities 3.5% 3.0% 0.5% 7.0% 17.8 x
Listed Property Trusts 5.2% 2.2% -3.1% 4.3% 19.2 x
Fixed Interest 5.8% 0.0% 0.0% 5.8% 17.1 x
Residential Property (Syd) 2.0% 3.0% 0.0% 5.0% 50.0 x
Asset Sentiment PE
4 5 fa rre lly ’s
1 0 Y e a r F o re c a s t s a s a t J u n - 1 0
* In c lu d e s e x p e c t e d c u rre n c y g a in
D iv i d e n d E a rn i n g s C e n t ra l
Y i e l d * G ro w th Fo re c a s t
A u st r a lia n E q u it ie s 5 .5 % 3 . 6 % 0 . 8 % 9 .9 % 1 4 . 8 x
I n t e rn a t io n a l E q u it ie s 4 .3 % 5 . 3 % - 1 . 9 % 7 .7 % 2 1 . 1 x
L is t e d P ro p e r t y T ru s t s 6 .0 % 2 . 1 % - 1 . 2 % 6 .9 % 1 6 . 8 x
F ix e d In t e re s t 6 .7 % 0 . 0 % 0 . 0 % 6 .7 % 1 5 . 0 x
R e si d e n t ia l P r o p e rty 2 .3 % 4 .5 % - 0 .8 % 6 .0 % 4 3 .5 x
A ss e t S e n ti m e n t P E
AssetMix
Australian SharesInternational Shares
Property
Term Deposits
Cash
What are the CashFlow Needs for:
Next 2 Years
Next 7-10 Years & Beyond
Need Cash and Term Deposits - this section is structured to be “Consumed”
Security – eg Government Guarantee; Return of the $ invested at the designated time; Only after “signing off” this section of the bucket do we then look at LHS of the bucket
Asset Mix - Decision 1
AS
IS
P
TD
Cash
Asset Mix – the Growth Section
The LHS Side of the Bucket. The Goals are:
Main Goal - Long-Term Total Returns – 10 Year Targets
Sub Goal – replenish the Cash
Volatile Returns are not a concern
Income is not a focus – maximising returns is the goal. A business that reinvests is not any less attractive than one that pays out all profit as a dividend.
Asset Mix - Decision 2
Invest in 3 ways – profit, rent or interest
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Inclusions - Cash & Term Deposits; Australian & International Shares; Property when attractive
Exclusions - Structured Funds; Mortgage Trusts ; Hybrids; Fixed Interest Pools; Loans; Mezzanine Funds; Second Tier Debt; Hedge Funds; Bond Funds; Balanced/Conservative etc; Tax-driven investments; Alternatives
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Technical/Academic Paper due out soon
The Hayden Asset Allocation Model
Specific Investments within asset sectors
Australian/International Shares
We have a 10 year plus time frame so we are sharing in the profits generated by the business – ie either dividends and/or capital growth generated by higher profits
We want a good portfolio and we want it monitored and changed when needed
Best way - contract Specialist Stock-pickers
AS
IS
P
TD
Cash
Asset Mix – the Growth Section
Fund manager research focuses on the four ‘Ps’
Stated investment policies & strategies.
PROCESSPEOPLEBackground, qualifications & track record.
PORTFOLIODo the securities held reflect stated investment policies & strategies ?
Returns generated relative to to the risks taken.
PERFORMANCE
Research ProcessResearch Process
How Many Managers -ie stock-pickers?
Obtain diversification – ie different processes and different people/perspectives
Not too many that we dilute the best performers
Around 3-5 in both Australian and International Shares
ASISP
TD
Cash
Specialist Stock-picker
XYZ Manager
Specific Investments
We, via the Specialist Stock-pickers, want :
** the best performing businesses over a 10+ year time frame
We want to buy these on the stock-market
Most stock-market participants are looking for the best 1 year performers. Their time frame may be shorter, eg 3 months,or……even intra-day!
This can be to our advantage. Avoid the noise.
The three choices:
Index Funds
Choose Your Own Stocks
Contract a High-Quality Stock-Picker
Are some businesses better than others? Yes – either in a better Industry and/or having better Management.
Do some people have specialised skills and resources to be able to find and then analyse businesses? Is it worthwhile paying them to do this? Yes
Is a Stock-Picker Needed?
What makes a quality stock-picker
Consider their processes
We are agreeing to buy a selected portfolio of shares and then contracting them to Manage it
We can see the underlying investments. We can address each holding and ask them why they part-own that business and what are the key factors that would lead them to sell that business
The business must have High Profit Margins or High Turnover and Reasonable Profit Margins – and this advantage must be sustainable.
Choosing a Stock-Picker
What Investments do we own?
The contracted Fund Managers (Specialist Stock-pickers) build a portfolio that we indirectly own.
We want managers that have:
High Conviction portfolios (some businesses are better than others)
Low TurnOver (trading often has a goal to lower volatilty but not necessarily maximise long-term returns)
The businesses that we part-own (via our specialist Fund Managers) should or must meet these criteria:
We want Good Businesses – ie those with a Durable Competitive Advantage
We want to avoid Poor Businesses - ie those where price is the major motivating factor in the consumer’s decision to buy their product or service.
The Buffett Overlay
Analyse specific Investments
We can address the holdings of the Managers –
The Buffett Overlay
The expected profits going forward
Our comfort factor in being a part-owner
The Strategy Going Forward
Review our goals
Consider Cash/Term Deposits and then the allocation to Australian and International Shares
Analyse the Managers via:
a) Their holdings
b) Their ongoing skill-set
What could go wrong?
Lower Returns in LHS
Volatility
Underlying businesses (ie our investments) become long-term laggards
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Do we need to define the risks? It is not volatility nor short-term underperformance. The key risks are those that will prevent us from achieving our goals.
One of Chris Cuffe’s favourite quotes:
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‘Experience is the best teacher, but its lessons are not cheap. Therefore we should avoid paying for the same lesson twice. Actually, there is no need for investors to make the same mistake more than once, there being no shortage of possible new mistakes to choose from.’
Robert Keavney, Centric Wealth, July 2009
Fear & Greed Index & the All Ordinaries Index since 1875
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This chart shows the long term trend of the All Ordinaries Index, and the swings between Fear & Greed cycles, together with Standard Deviation bands:
Transparency.
Logical and Rational.
Well reasoned and justifiable on historical and theoretical basis.
Contract wise people with Integrity and Mutual Goals.
Realistic Goals – specify long-term and short-term goals. Inflation must be considered in goal setting.
A Sound Solid Plan
AssetMix
Australian SharesInternational Shares
Property
Term Deposits
Cash
AS
IS
P
TD
Cash
Asset Mix – the Growth Section
ASISP
TD
Cash
Specialist Stock-picker
XYZ Manager
Changes to Lifestyle or Financial Goals
Asset Sector Changes – eg if the 10 year return differential is significant;
Switching of Fund Managers – may be needed at any time. NB we are retaining the same asset sector exposure –eg to shares – but changing the portfolio and ongoing monitoring responsibility
Switching
Realistic Goals
Structure/Strategy (Tax etc)
Super Fund Admin
Asset Mix 1 -Cash/TermDs needed
Asset Mix 2–Growth Section (LHS)
Stock-Picker Selection
The Boxes to Tick
Peace-of-mind for Investors
1. Part-own a lot of great businesses. We have a diversified portfolio of businesses across locations, industries and via size.
2. Employing (contracting) some very wise people to monitor and change our portfolio of businesses when necessary.