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Languages/Technical SIGby Chase Allen

asca1 (the SIG) seems to havefallen on hard times. This ispartly due to an absenteecoordinator (John Schoeppner -

who did a great job in the years he wascoordinator), partly due to a lesseninginterest in Pascal and partly due to somelack of initiative on my part, in keepingthings going.

Since there seems to be interest in asomewhat broader scope than just Pascal,I will attempt to get a new SIG going,with a charter to look at any and allprogramming languages, as well. as thetechniques of programming peripheraldevices-read that as cards in slots! Atthe most recent board meeting I wassorry to hear that. the App1esoft SIG hadgone by the wayside. So, we shall evenattempt to include subjects of interest toyou BASIC (sic) prograIlimers, but youwill have to provide some experts in thearea to present topics of interest.

The meetings will be at FirstMinnesota (formerly Minnesota Federal)in Hopkins, in the original Pascal timeslot-2nd Wednesday of the month at7:30. The first meeting will beWednesday, April 9th. The subject willbe a comparison of Apple Pascal andTURBO Pascal. Future subjects willinclude a self-help seminar on how tocode the Checkmate MultiRam lie cardwhich has 768K of RAM.

So, all you ever wanted to leamabout programming, and assorted othertopics. The call is out now for topicrequests, and some help from you expertsin your own area of expertise, to share itwith us.

New Branch in North East Area!by Dick Marchiafava

I am pleased to announce the start of anew branch of our Apple User Group!Mike Frazee of Stillwater has agreed tobe the Branch Coordinator. This branchis intended to serve membership in thearea north and east of St. Paul.

Our newest branch is as yetunnamed. (Referred to as N.E. area branchon Calendar) The name and preferedmeeting location will be selected by themembers interested in being inv olvedwith this new resource and in going tomeetings.

The first meeting will be April 23rd,at the Stillwater Public Library in theMargaret Rivers Room at 7:00 PM.Come on over! Prpgrams and meetingschedules will be discussed.

AppleWorks, one of the largestselling programs in the country, will bethe feature of this first meeting.

If you have any questions orsuggestions about this branch you maycall Mike Frazee at 430-2944, or DickMarchiafava at 572-9305.

Business SIG Announcementsby Dick MarchiafavaApril 10: RAMDISKS, Large

Capacity Floppy Drives, Hard Drivesand Ram disks will be demonstrated.Also large capacity 3.5 inch diskdrives. There will be a paneldiscussion on hard drives.

May 15: WordprocessinglllCkages;BusinessWriter Erik Carlson,AppleWriter - Ken Ruzek, Wordstar -Gene Kasper, Bank Street Writer lie -Bob French.

You may contact Dick Marchiafavaat 612-572-9305 if you have anyquestions about this schedule.

Small Talk SIGby Dan BuchlerYou may notice a new SIG listed in thecalendar. This SIG will be devoted to theSmall Talk programming language andwill be hosted by Martin McClure, at250 S. Milton St., St Paul on the 2ndWednesday of each month. The firstmeeting will be on April 9th. Martin'stelephone no. is 227-9348.

Small Talk, according to Martin, isvery powerful yet the most fun languageto program in. It was developed back in1972 at the Xerox, Palo Alto ResearchCenter and was the origin of many ideasfor the Lisa and Macintosh includingsuch things as overlapping windows.From research with children and adults atPalo Alto, it was discovered thatprevious programming experience doesn'tmake any diifference in learning SmalTalk. So that means that you, thenovice, can come and learn about SmallTalk.

MacSIGsby Dan BuchlerThe two Macintosh SIGs continue toflourish. The NonTechnical User (ntu) is

getting more organized and will featurethe Abaton 300 Scanner at the April 7thmeeting. The Abaton, which uses aMicroTech scanner, is a true digitizerwhich feeds and scans a piece of paperdigitizing the information thereon at 200or 300 spots/inch. The qUality of thescanned image is generally' better thanthat which can be obtained fromThunderScan or a TV frame-grabberdevice. Abaton are also developingpattern recognition software which willallow trnslation of charcters containedwithin the scan to ASCII codes-opticalcharacter recognition!

The Main MacSIG on April 28thwill interest those of you who want toincrease the memory capacity of yourMac.

Future Milli'app'les Meetingsby Tom Edw~rdsThings· are on track for several of themeetings ahead for the Mini'app'lesClub. Please remember, our "regular"meeting is often planned with emphasison universal appeal. That is, the mainprogram should be. of interest.· to ..illlXcomputer user and not specific to .••• onemodel from the Apple line. . Machinespecific topics are usually left to theSIGs. Better attendance at the "regular"meeting can often get us betterprograms. The folks that are beingasked to make a presentation often willask "how many will be in attendance?"With the First Class Peripheralspresentation of last fall, we had somespecific goals to meet, and in so doing,where able to have a $700 door prizepresented by First Class.

Although I can't promise that eachmonth's "regular" meeting will be 100%generic, please look the calendar over,totally. Try to pick some othermeetings that may be of interest to youand attend one or two. Give someone onthe board feedback about what you sawWas it a good program, did it interestyou, and if not, did it seem to be ofinterest to others that were there?

With a little effort, we should beable to improve the value of theprograms to the membership, but weneed some thoughtful suggestions onwhat works and what doesn't.

Here's a schedule of meetingsthrough June. Hope that there are thingshere to pull you into enjoying an

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evening with other Apple computerenthusiasts.

• CompuKeys, Inc., a St. Paul basedcompany, will present the April 16thprogram (S1. Paul U of M campus,room 120 Green Hall). CompuKeyspublishes software that helps usersgain proficiency at the keyboard. Thescreen is highly graphic during eachtutorial. Lessons are available foralphabets or numerals and symbols.Developed by educators with aclassroom environment in mind, thereare several additional aids forstructuring individual skill levels andmanaging individual progress.

• May 21st finds us back at the OakGrove school location inBloomington. Mini'app'le memberMarc Renner has suggested a softwareoriented program, consisting ofcomparisons of similar programsavailable from several sources.Spreadsheets and copy programstopped his list of "compares."Another suggestiop was to look at"mouse" software (though my firstletter to Roger Wagner Publishing wasnot answered, I may try it again).Larry Strathman's suggestion to call onSpringboard Software for a programturned out well. I'1l try to score onMarc's suggestion, too.

• The Swap Meet is scheduled for ourJune 18 meeting. The cafeteria at

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Derham Hall High School, 540 SouthWarwick in S1. Paul, is the location.This arrangement was coordinated byMini'app'le member Sister SharonGondek, who also teaches at theschool. Earlier Swap Meets have beenvery popular. Shine up those hardwlifeitems and blow the dust off of thoseprogram disks that you want to sell ortrade. Help make this Swap Meet asuccess too.

Got a special topic that you would liketo suggest for a program? I sureappreciate the surge in grass-rootsprogram suggestions. Drop me a note,or collar me at a meeting, and let's goover a program idea that you may have!I'm da Veeper.. a

Nifty Works (DOS format)Personal Domain

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Apple ][ plus where it supports (butdoesn't ne~d) the 16K RAM card, lowercase ClrlP and shift key modification.

,Be advised that there is no DOSsupplied with this disk put that area ofthe disk has been reserved for adding it.Use Master ,Create or Update. 3.3 fromyour system master to place DOS on yourbackup of this disk.Qr, better yet, add ahigh-speed, DOS such as Diversi-DOS tofurther enhance this program.

AE Memorymaster (128k), Legend(128k), Saturn (128k), and, of course,Apple (64k). Additional cards may besupported if they conform .. to the Saturn'standard'. Means of protecting thedouble hires memory area (for either Page1 or Page 2, or both) and the second$DOOO area are detailed on the disk.

Diversi-DOS © 1982 DSR, Inc.Requested fee: $30

ifty Info has just released"Nifty Works" as a PersonalDomain disk. Nifty Works isa word processor of the "what

you see is what you get" varietyintegrated with a library of extendedfunctions. The library will consist ofcommon word processing functions aswell as some very unusual ones. Theonly function currently available is called"Sort Text", and is included on the disk.Sort Text is a sophisticated high speedsorting utility capable of handling ninelevels of sorting as well as single ormultiple line records. Future extendedfunctions will include high security dataencryption of documents, math functionsand communications.

Numerous prompts, menus and an on-line index of editor commands furtherhelp make this a truly friendly program.To get you started, twenty full pages ofinstructions are included on the diskwhich can easily be printed out.

Nifty Works runs on the Apple Ilc,lIe (with or without 80 col card), and the

Nifty Works copr. 1985 Nifty InfoRequested fee: $0

Diversi-DOS V 4.1-C(Personal Domain)

This is an announcement for the re-issuance of Diversi-DOS. This latestversion includes all previousenhance.U1ents .to DOS plus two new ones:Fast garbage collection and configurationto automatically setup a Ramdisk area onextended memory cards.

Fast garbage: When running largebasic progrl\}11S, the computer may pausefor several minutes to reorganize stringmemory. Use the 'GARB' program toprevent these pauses. To install 'GARB',simply 'BRUN GARB' (works with 48k or64k Diversi-DOS).

Ramdisk: The ability to configurea Diversi-DOS enhanced disk toautomatically create a Ramdisk (of up to256k) with the Applied EngineeringRamWorks card installed. Other extendedmemory cards supported: Neptune (192k),

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lAC #56 (DOS format)from The Appleton ApplesComputer Users' Club

The release of the ProDOS version ofSoftGraph last January (lAC #52) iscomplememted this month with a DOS3.3 version (for you DOS 3.3 hold-outs).Complete doc on how to use this hiresgraphing program is contained on disk.The program is by David Durkee and wasoriginally published in SofTalkmagazine.

In addition, a few handy utilities andsome older Integer BASIC programs areincluded. DOSTYPE is a command that isadded to DOS which will allow you toexamine the contents of a sequential textfile. This command comes in real handywhen you simply want to read a file'scontents. If you tum on your printerprior to executing the TYPE command,you'll get a hardcopy.

DUSC stands for Dos Utility: SortCatalog (Give ya one guess! Time's up!).

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DUMP presents you with a '0'prompt and awaits your input of amemory cell or a range of memory to

"dump". Enter your memory locations inhex with a range separated with a period(standard monitor procedure). The result,in addition to the normal hex' contents ofthe locations, is the display of theequivalent ASCII character.

Finally, here are four older games ordemos. APPLE-TREK is probablyeasy to use by those familiar with thistype of game. I could find noinstructions, so I couldn't figure it out.When my game ended it said somethingabout the total destruction of theFederation and that I was a dismal failurein my handling of the Enterprise. Luckyfor you it was only a game!

BIORHYTHM produces a loresplot of your biorhythms over a 30 dayperiod. [[here's another biorhythmprogram on DOMs. 9 & 15 which willgive you a hardcopy: BIORHYTHMPRINTER]

TOWERS OF HANOI - the classicgame in lores.

YAHTZEE supports up to 4 playersand even allows you to re-roll individualdice attempting to reach your desiredcombination of dice.

APPLEVISION the classiccombination of· text and hires pictures.Created in 1978, •this foreshadowed someof the excellent graphics seen in today'sgames. Written by Bob Bishop, authorof several hires animation packages, thiswill forever remain a classic.

Newsroom demo (DOS 'format)by Springboard Software

Just in case you happen to be the oneperson (Herb?) to who has neitherpurchased nor seen a demo of Newsroom,this is just for you. We have a limitedquantity of self-running demo disks fromSpringboard. Its an excellent demo andcovers most of the areas.

Because this disk is protected andthe quantity available to us is limited, Ipropose that we 'sell' these demo disks atthe usual price of $5.00. Then, you can(anyway we'd like you to) return it to us

, to. exchange for another disk from thelibrary of Public or Personal Domainsoftware.Newsroom demo copr. 1984 Springboard

SoftwareRequested fee.' $0 (please return toMini'app'les for exchange)

April 1986

CP/M Update:

After distilling the library descriptionson the 2 double sided CP/M directorydisks we received, I have reduced thesuperfluous information considerably.So, the verbiage now consumes a singleside. Therefore, I've decided to put thesame information on the back of the diskin DOS textfiles so those of us who donot know/have CP/M can see what'savailable. [Actually this is the easiestthing for me to do since the first thing Idid upon receiving .the disks. was convertall the documentation to DOS anyway -- sorry CP/Mers]

The directory disks will be availableat meetings, just the PROGRAM diskswill have to be mail ordered. Also, Ineglected to mention pricing. Thedirectory disk will be the standard $5 (ifits bought at meeting) and $6 for thedirectory or any PROGRAM disk whenmail ordered.

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Printer functions are not hiddencharacters as in many WPs. They arereadable and can be customized to matchthe features of your printer.

Nifty Works can be used on an Apple][+, lIe or Ilc. It works with the extrakeys, 80 columns, and extra memory onthe lIe and Ilc (if present). It uses theshift key modification, lower case chipand language card on the ][+ if they areinstalled. Configuration is automatic foreach system.

Nifty Works is easy to learn andremember because its 40+ functions areefficiently invoked using nested menusthat are always shown. This program ismore than a traditional word processor,and is appropriately named 'NiftyWorks'.

Nifty Info also has a "Works UserKit" which contains a more detailed NiftyWorks manual with numerous examples;a utility disk; a user ID number (whichpermits you to obtain telephone-supportfor questions); and the latest version ofNifty Works. The cost of this WorksUser Kit is $24.95. C!

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rediting functions at your command, youcan move and edit ~ext in virtually everyway. Adjusting forms is very easy.

About four pages of text can bewritten and stored in one document.Your document is saved in a normal textfile which means that other programssuch as a spelling checker can utilizedthe stored text. [Saving 4-pagedocuments can eat up disk space butmaybe a text compression "extendedfunction" (see below) will be availablein the future.] The file handlingfunctions (load, save, lock, unlock,delete) are all available from within theprogram. Another feature is that onlytext files are displayed (via menu, ofcourse). A second file can be mergedwith the current work file in memory tofill in the names or other parts of a formfile. Nifty, huh?

Many features are includedwhich indicate that the authorwanted Nifty Works to be easyto use, such as:• Free-style text entry• Smooth scrolling text• Scrolling speed adjustment• 40 column proof-reading mode

On a forty column screen,the display scrolls side to side aswell as up and down to followthe text entry. Even thescrolling speed can be adjusted!The author says that even thefastest typists can't out-pace thisprogram (although my 2-fingertyping could not verify thisclaim). It appears that a lot ofeffort was put forth to speed upthe usual bottlenecks in wordprocessors. A proof readingmode is available for the fortycolumn screen.

Nifty Works has a very nicefeature that allows it to select"extended functions". Oneextended function comes with theprogram that will sort the worktext. This function sorts up tonine levels deep, and is also freeformat (multi-line). The sort caneven work if some data ismissing, such as middle initials

A Reviewby C. Thiesfeld

iftuess what? There is anotherword processor available now."So what!" you say. Well,this one is offered on a

Mini'app'les personal domain disk. (SeeApril Showers elsewhere in thisnewsletter.) That's what's new. It hasseveral 'Nifty' features (pardon the pun)that make it a smart investment. And,the requested fee for this PersonalDomain disk is $OO.OO!

When you get the disk fromMini'app'les and it doesn't boot as youwould expect, don't get too upset. Itdoes not contain a disk operating system(DOS). Instead it gives instructions onhow to put your own DOS on the disk.You probably already know theadvantages of using an altemative toApple's DOS 3.3. The author of NiftyWorks says that ProntoDOS and Diversi-DOS load the program twice as fast butdocument files load at about the samespeed.

The disk you receive includes theprogram and twenty pages ofdocumentation, plus examples. The docsupplied is quite thorough, althoughsome of Nifty Works' more advanceduses are not covered in detail. Theauthor encourages duplicating the disk aslong as "the provisions of the licensingagreement are followed."

Most of the editing functions arequite normal: insert/delete lines,cuUpaste lines, erase lineslpageslworkarea, auto center, etc. However, onefunction called "geometric block editing"is quite unusual. Unlike the blockfunctions found on other word processorswhich work on one or more lines, thisfunction works on lines and columnssimultaneously. The size of the blockcan be anywhere from a single characterto the whole work area. The blockdesignated is by marking the upper-leftand lower-right comers with specialbrackets. When you press Ctrl-B, amenu appears at the top of the screenthat allows you to move, copy, erase orshift the block. The shift option letsyou move the block in all four directionsone linelcolumn at a time. Withgeometric block editing and the other

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The Computer and Business Equipment Showcaseis bringing a blizzard of products, services, and business

to Minneapolis..St. Paul May 15-17 at theMinneapolis Auditorium and Convention Hall.

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Return to: The Interface Group, Inc., 300 First Avenue,Needham, MA 02194 Attn.: Peter O'Neil

The Showcase teems with the latest in high-tech pro-ducts and services - everything from computers andcopiers to telephone equipment and software. Andmany of these will be offered at special show prices.

Professionals, corporate managers, small businessowners - the decision-makers and buyers - are com-ing to track down the solutions they need and to gainthe insight and expertise to increase their productivity.

In-depth Professional Education Programs led byindustry experts enlighten buyers and guide them tothe right decisions. This year's sessions, are scheduledto include such subjects as telecommunications ser-vices, electronic publishing, and small-scale CAD/CAM.

Be sure to check your newspaper for specific showdetails as the spring blizzard approaches.

Exhibit space is already vanishing. Send in the coupontoday or contact The Interface Group, 300 First Ave.Needham, MA 02194. (617) 449-6600 for fullexhibitor information.

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Movin' with Mini'app'les:Let's be a "Premier" User

Groupby Tom Edwards

pple is moving to re-establisha thriving relationship withUser Groups. A recent steptoward this is the new position

of a "User Group Evangelist" to bringthings together. The next majororganizational move will be to set upseveral "premier" user groups to patternhow the relationships and cooperationwill work. The Mini'app'les Board ismaking efforts on several different levelsin hopes of becoming part of that first,trend-setting selection.

The following copy of a letter toEllen Leanse, User Group Evangelist,should help to keep you posted onllowour efforts are going. If yOl,lhave anopinion... for or against ...1et the boardknow about it. You might also want towrite to Ellen Leanse and express yourpersonal thoughts about what you thitlkApple Computer, Inc. should do tosupport user groups. Some of the thingsbeing considered are: communicationnetwork for technical, corporate andproduct releases; lease/loan/buy programsof major equipment for groups; speakersat meetings; loan of training and salestapes; and using the knowledge andenthusiasm of user groups to enhanceApple sales and support.

Ellen Leanse Feb. 10, 1986Apple User Group EvangelistApple Computer, Inc.MS23G20525 Mariani AvenueCupertino, CA 95014

Dear Ms. Leanse:

Congratulations on your appointment tothe position of User Group Evangelistfor Apple Computerl The membership ofthe Mini'app'les Apple Computer UserGroup of Minnesota wishes you greatsuccess with this challenge. We hopethat we can be called upon to aid in thisnew level of cooperation between AppleComputer, Inc. and the manyenthusiastic Apple computer usersthroughout Minnesota and the mid-westarea.

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Ellenl..eansegreeted theVserGrolJP rl:lpresentatives at the opening of AppleWorld.

Apple rolled out the "Welcome" for all User Group Representatives.

Photography by Martin McClure

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Do-It-Yourself BusinessPapers

April 1986

Do-It-Yourself Business Papersby Honor-System Software

Review by Richard H. Peterson

Originally scheduled for inclusion in thismonth's offerings, this disk will not bereleased in its present form. Numerousproblems with the programs has causedus to wait for a corrected version fromthe publisher. Please see a review of thedisk elsewhere in this newsletter.

P.S.- Don't let ouTscrutil1}' .OfthisPersonal Domain disk sCllI'e you. into notsubmitting YOUR late.st. masterpiec~ forinclusion on a futureDOM'l)()Msar~primarily user contributed progra.tl1~andare Public Domaill. \. . And .while.. it's llic~when .they function, the. progranls ••• arenot expected .to .alL be ofprofessi?nalquality.. However, Personal. DOl11ai~disks request afee fo~ use ~fter you'vehad a chance to "check 'etn0ut". andSHOULD generally be of higher quality.

We.... were\.plall~ing to. have. aspreadsheet tax program available this(or last) month. To date we have notreceived said program. It's getting waytoo late to do much good even if it'sreceived now. Maybe next year.SOMEBODY out there must have such ananimal available... Let's contribute thoseprograms! !

Are you gettingas disgusted

menuaround:except

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tiM DOM'~21 ~'3D And Other

Goodies

by Curtis Juliberhis month's MacDOM featuresa shareware 3D program-complete with documentation-which will let you generate

your own 3D drawings. Try it!!Also included on this DOM are some

goodies for all of you with Imagewriterprinters (isn't that EVERYONE??). Ifyou've always wanted a letter qualitylook from your dot matrix printer, install

witcher .4.4 •has some problelllSwhen used with the Mac+ andthenew HFS system. Here aresome suggestions to overcome

those bugs. Thanks to Rob Griggs atApple for the information.1. DO NOT keep documents you wish

to work with in folders. Switchercan't access them properly.

2. DO NOT use Switcher with the RAMcache on.

3. Make sure "Switching Animation" isNOT selected.

4. Avoid using the Finder in rotationwith MacDraw. If you need to deletefiles etc., I suggest installing thedesk accessory "EXTRAS" whichduplicates some functions of theFinder.***************************

Bulletin boards around the countryhave begun to list the programs that willNOT work with the new ROMs (MacPlus). We are also receiving input fromour own members and other localsources. Below is a partial listing ofprograms which will not work on theMac Plus as delivered with the old

the Boston II font found on thisdisk... it comes pretty darn close. Andfor you Trekies out there, we haveincluded a font designed in honor ofStar Trek. A nice stylish font...sorrybut Klingons are not included.

The Imagewriter fIle included onthis disk has· been .• modified to include al"x 3.5"label,iboth the large and smallRolodex card sizes, and pre-sealedcomputer mailer size labels (5.5" high x8.5" wide or lI2 a typewritten page).Simply install the icon on your systemdisk when you need it.

Did you ever wish that you'. couldhave access to fonts stored on disksother than the one you were working on?Did you change your mind because youwere too la~y .to install them? Fontsieis an application to allow you, whilerunning MacPaint or MacWrite, to haveaccess to fonts stored not in the systemfile but in font. files on other disks. Itwill add selected fonts to the MacPaintand MacWrite font. menu and allow you

.Cl~H.(Mac Hints of the Month)

by Curtis Juliber

System and old Finder (v 4.1 orearlier):

FroggerTriviaMacGammonFeathers and SpaceMacVegasEnchanted SceptersHarrier Strike MissionMacZap v4.0

All these/programs have the same thingin commol1..~epro~ammeJ: modified theFinder for Use in the application. That'sa NO-NO. I willpost additional listingsas they become known.

Other programs .' which won't work orhave problems wi~the Mac Plus are:

o Red Ryder 7.01 (This is anincompatibility with Mac Plus ratherthan the H.F.S.)

o Copy llMacand Mac Tools v 5.0and earlier. Copy II Mac 4.5 alsowon't properly support the HD 20.

o The Apple Calendar Desk accessorydoes not support the keypad on the

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to use those fonts in the documents youcreate and print.

Of course, the question thenbecomes: What if I DO install more than20 fonts on my disk? Never fear. MENUSCROLL sets up scroll bars inMacPaint's and MacWrite's font menus soyou can [md them!

MCS is a multitasking communica-tions program which will let you transferfIles while simultaneously "talking" on-line to another MCS user. Termworks1.1 is a very simple, but very good,terminal program which even tells. youhoW long it will take you to transfer orreceive files with the person at the otherend. (1IINT: To change the baud rate,click on it!!)

Directory .8 allows you toproduce ,a directory listing of files onyour disk. And whatwould a MacDOMbe without a game???rr~is month's gameis BLACKJACK. It's so realistic. youcan even watch your money disappear!!More nextmonth.••• C!

Mac Plus.Fokker Tripl~lle. lIelpdoesn't work

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MacHOM Continued

reload Word if problem occurs.ConcertWare+ v3 or earlier isincompatible with the H.F.S. SeeConcertWare+ Note, elsewhere in thisnewsletter.

• With H.F.S. on the MacPlus,MacWrlte occasionally produces amessage "Document Cannot Print", but

will print anyway.Guess What! Finder 5.1 is no longercurrent! There's now Finder 5.2 andSystem 3.1. Seems that Finder 5.1 had abug which resulted in a newly-booteddesktop not containing all of the filesactually on the disk, even though theyweren't hidden files. Also, whencopying files from drive-to-driv,e, thereis a situation which results in the

message "Not Enough Room to Copy,"even if there in fact is room to copy.We believe that Finder 5.2 fixes theseproblems. Your dealer may not yet havethe new Finder. It has only beenofficially distributed with Pascal.

1 Red Ryder 8.0, now available on theG.E. bulletin board "Genie", doeswork. tr

to be "generic" whenever possible, ofinterest to JillX computer user, not justApple II series. Dan Buchler asked thegroup to give some thought to theCauzln SoftstrlpTM SystemReader. (You've all probably seen theirads if you've read any of the recentcomputer magazines. It's the ones thathave strips of printing that look likeminiaturized hieroglyphics.) Dan waswondering of the Club might be able toprint the Disks of the Month in thenewsletter, or something like that. Anintreging idea, certainly worth a littlenoodle-time from us all.

The round of introductions was a biton the brief side this evening. Most

rest of us", as the meeting began onMarch 10. Still at the Edina CommunityCenter, the MacSIG:ntu met in a firstfloor classroom setting instead of theupstairs community room. Although thequarters were a bit snug for the 50 or soin attendance, the benefit was that all ofthe seats were closer to the screen forbetter viewing of the Limelight images.(We thank Apple Computer for loan ofthe LimeLight projector!)

Pressing into the preliminaries,Curtis and Dave branched intoannouncements of up and coming events.Tom Edwards encouraged MacSIG'ers toalso look into the "regular" Mini'app'lesmeetings. These meetings are designed

MacSIG:ntU; What Sits Under the Apple Tree is Fun for You and Meby Tom Edwards

ince when does your DeskAccessory menu just have tobring you "Calculator, Notepad,Scrapbook, Puzzle and Control

Panel?" And even if those are the titlesof your desk accessories, where is itwritten that they have to be ho-humversions from Apple? Curtis Juliber andDave Stovall, the dynamic duo nowcoordinating the MacSIG:ntu, proved thatthe accessories at your disposal need notbe dull, utilitarian, commonplace, norcome with the Apple Stamp-of~Approval.

All of this Was scratching at theback of those looking to stretch theirunderstanding of "the computer for the

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McClure), a potential MacGraphics Sig, the availability of a' newsletterdirected to handicapped users ofcomputers and the publication of theentire, current, MacDOM catalog forall members to enjoy and browsethrough.

Moving Right Along...Curtis opened the evening's

program, .an overview 10 themanagement, utility, application and funof desk accessories. He began with avery detailed and easy-to-follow tripthrough the application that enables oneto construct their own entry into theacademy of "Top Desk AccessoryCombinations of the Twentieth Centry",namely, Apple's Font/DeskAccessory Mover utility. This al-lows you to move DA (desk accessory)and font files from one disk to another,install those of your choice into the"system" so they are available by menuselection, remove those that have provenof no particular value for certain uses orreplace them with better versions.

If you want, you can "attach" DAs tospecific applications, instead of thesystem. Then, DA's or fonts that areimportant for enhancing certainapplications will only be available whenthat application is run. The trick to thisultimate customization is holding downthe "Option" key as you prepare to opena System file with the Moverapplication. Done correctly, you will bepresented with a menu of all files on thedisk, notjust sytemor f0tlUDA files.

Neeq to grab a 'Paint picture to addto your report? Or just need.to. draw outa quick detail, maybe a chart, to add?Use a modem, write a letter, find youdon't •have room on the disk to store along document, conjure up some spread-sheet data to paste into a letter? Theutility and ease is that you don't have tostop what you are doing, load in anotherapplication and then try to merge thingstogether with clipboards and an everelusive scrapbook to manage.

Dave followed with a practicalexalllple of how a Windows accessoryhelps' him to select bits and pieces torecombine them into something freshand new. Other accessories can evenhelp you work with the accessories,moving them or perhaps just taking onefor a "test drive" without actuallyinstalling it into a system and restartingto see what it does.

Dave, and others in the Club, haveamassed many by dialing in toCompuServe's MAUG and downloadingthem. Look for the best to show up onfuture MacDOM's from the MacSIG groupin Mini'app'les. t!

however, falls to those swinging intothe upper reaches of RAM. The 3rdparties have offered many solutions tothose stretching to I, 2, 3 and even 4megs of memory. Softwarelhardwarefor these choices result in machinesthat do nQ1 work alike. Apple hasadded to the obfustication level withthe upgrade path to the MacPlus... yetanother hurdle to be scaled by thegrowing Mac'er!

o Closely paralleling the upgradequestion is the future of the 512K Mac.It may not be long before thismachine tumbles into corporateoblivion, joining some othernamesakes clinging to the edge of theprecipice by naught but the slimmestof margins, or slipping off to fallunder the crush of marchingtechnology.

o Laserwriter was worth a few quickies.One complainer's lament: non-laserfonts look very poor in final image onpaper. Here, the things to check forare that you have the "laserfonts"installed in the System and that "FontSubstitution" is selected (in the"Printer Set-up" menu). It also appearsthat there is no italic variationavailable for the Symbol font.

o The ImageWriter II resulted in "goodnews, bad news" comments. Praisedfor its additional 'speed, quality ofimpression, and ability to acceptsingle sheets without removing thecontinuous form stock, it was knockedfor the incompatibility with older~(.)fvt's, resulting in the need for arevision to the driver (now 2.1) toapplyaJix.

• Other" items of interest included thegrowing SmallTalk Sig (aka Martin

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were intersted in getting into the mainservice of the Club; ie, matching upthose with questions to those withanswers, or at least finding more withsimilar questions, on the premise thattwo (or more) heads are better than one.Perhaps you would like to help withanswers, or join the group in the questfor enlightenment on one of thesesubjects:

Spelling checkers are getting hot.MacLightnlng and MacSpells-Well are new entries into the fold, butno clear recommendations could beoffered by those attending.

o Databases: In the "memory resident"genre, OverVue is the hands-downwinner. Tonight's group was moreinterested in the "power users" questfor "relationality", flexibility andgargantuan file size. OverVue comesup a bit short in some of these things,and the next step up the ladder seemsto fall to Helix or Omnls 3.

o Again, disk drives whirled before themembers. The questioner, workingwith a 128K Mac however, is limitedto a 400K type. The new 800K unitsfrom Apple (and others) need to tieinto a (min) 512K Mac in order to usethe new HFS Finder.

o Those considering memory upgradeshave many decisions to face. Goingfrom 128K to 512K, Apple and anumber of "3rd party" vendors offeranswers, all of which function alike.The variables are workmanship,warranty, quality of materials andprice. If you initially opt for a non-Apple bump to 512K,and later decideto go for the MacPlus, Apple will lookat your Mac as though it is but a 128Kunit. The merry-go-round of decisions,

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MinutesBoard of Directors, March 5, 1986

Discount Cornerby Keith Madonna

he Board of Directors met atthe Hopkins First Minnesotabuilding.

The Secretary's report forJanuary was approved as written in theMarch newsletter.

The Treasurer's report was read andapproved. It is printed elsewhere. Inaddition Tom Alexander presented adetailed summary of the group'sfinances. We, ate seven months into thefiscal year. If one extrapolates to twelvemonths we are within $2000 of being ontarget of a $40()OO b~dget.

The agenda. fori upcdriring meetingswas discussed. See Announcements.

Dick Marchiatava and TomAlexander discussed(the( Handicap SIG.They have beeniassigned. user numbersfor access to the Board members BulletinBoard System on a trial basis.

Steve George lead a discussion ofthe upcoming computer shows. The

T•.'he'· following businesses offer, discounts .. to Mini'app'les

members in good standing.You may be required to show

your membership card in order to receivethe discount. I believe we should buyfrom our local dealers in order to keepthem in business and the money in ourcommunity. Off list means offsuggested list price, not off discountedpriced items.

Mike Carlson at Hagen OfficeEquipment, Inc.801 West 771/2 St., Richfield., MN.Tel 866-3441Offers: Standard Discount on hardwareand software.(Discount from MikeCarlson Only)

Dan Patch Micro Systems3804 W. Highway 13, Burnsville, MN.Tel 894-1683Offers: 20% off list on Hardwareand 25-40% off list on Software.New Store to the area.

Interface group has returned our contractsigned for the Computer and Businessshow to be held in the MinneapolisAuditorium May 15-17. (fhe Interfacegroup also sponsors Comdex). BoothPlans are proceeding. The Ama'Umr Fairhas not yet requested a signed contractbut is expected to do so soon. Thisexposition and swap meet will be held atthe State Fairgrounds Grandstand.

The booth space provided byMetronet at the Strictly Business Showin February was used to display a signtelling a little about the group and tosupply membership application blanks.About 2000 blanks were picked up byshow attendees. Mini'app'les wishes tothank Metronet for allowing us to sharetheir booth.

The nominating committee reportedthat most officer positions had onecandidate at this' time. Elections will beheld during the April Main Meeting.

House of Forms20 No. 1st Street, Mpls., MN.Tel 332-4866Offers: 10% Discount on their Products.

TravaComp International, Inc.Lockbox 18106, Dept. MAK, West St.Paul,MN.55118Offers: 10% Discount on their Products.Please Write for CATALOG!

First Tech2640 Hennepin Ave. So., Mpls., MN.Tel 377-3853Offers: Minimum of 25% off list onSoftwareand Minimum of 15% off list onHardware.

First Tech5810 Xerxes Ave. NO.,Brooklyn Center,MN.Tel 561-0900Offers: Minimum of 25% off list onSoftwareand Minimum of 15% off list onHardware.New Store Location

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The Membership Marketing Projectis underway as reported by DickMarchiafava. Approximately 200 localdealers of microcomputers and serviceswill be receiving information packetscontaining membership applicationblanks. The dealers were asked to makethe blanks available for those who wantthem. Additional supplies of the blankscan be obtained form the group bycontacting Jim Ruprecht as noted in theinitial package.

It appears likely that Stillwater willbe home to the next Mini'app'les Branchthanks to the efforts of Michael Frazee.We look forward to welcoming them intothe group.

The meeting was adjourned.

Respectfully submitted,Ken Slingsby a

Waterborne EnvironmentalLaboratoriesDown Town Location, Mpls., MN.Tel 339-8818Offers: 10% off list on their Products.

Zim Computer5717 Xerxes Ave. No., BrooklynCenter, MN.

Tel 560-0336Offers: 20% off list on Software.

Other dealers who wish to be listedshould contact Keith Madonna at 474-3876. a

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These ads are provided free tomembers for non-commercial use,and are limited to 10 lines.Commercial ads will be charged at 20cents/word for members or 40cents/word for non-members.Contact the Advertising coordinator.

DEADLINE for ads is the secondFriday of the month preceding themonth of publication. Ads will berepeated on request only.Also, piease notify editor if item issold. Unless otherwise noted, all

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ORDERING DOMs or MSDtl

A reminder that Disks Of theMonths lOOMs) are available by mail:DOMs at $6.00 each; MacDOMs at$9.00 each.

Send your order to:MINI'APP'LES DaM'sPO Box 796HopkinsMN., 55343

Attention DOM Sales Most DOM'sand all the MSDs are available at clubmeetings Because of the volume ofdisks distributed, they are not tested.Club members are asked to makeevery effort to get the DOM or MSDrunning. For example, occasionallythe OOS on the disk Will be bad, but itwill catalog OK and one can run theprograms. Master Create on yourSystem master disk will fix-up theDOS. Of course, if you have a diskwith bad programs, we will cheerfullyreplaceitl

Extended 80 column cards byApplied Engineering - $75.00.Software Plus 560-4077

Mac 512K system. 8 months old.Includes 15" lmagewriter,external disk drive, MacWrite &MacPalnl. $2500. Call after 5:30PM.Bill or Joan(507) 388-1892

Concorde 51/4",35 or 40 trackdisk drives for Apple)[, )[+ andlIe. New, in the box, includingoperating system and controllercards but no warrenty sinceConcorde is out of business.One full height single sided drive& controller; $95. One halfheight double drive (2 drives,side by side) &controller; $160.E Z PORT game port extender;$7.Eric 822-8528

SuperBase, Precision Software'spowerfull database for lIe.Includes programing Icmguage,calc abilities, sophisticatedreporting. Like new; $50. RanaApple compatible drive. Needsrepair; $30.Stu 642-9639 or 824-1363

Bare Apple )[+, 64K; $250 oroffer.Dick 432-3230

Complete Macintosh System -includes Imagewriter printer,OverVue database, Pascal,Write, Paint and others. WithSurge Guard powerstrip and Macmanuals. All in pristine conditionwith original documentation andcartons. $1585.Skip 870-9384

Apple )[+ system, 64K, 2 diskdrives, 80 column card, modem,12" monitor, System Saver, IDS440 Printer. Softwal'e: Fortran,Pascal, Visicalc, Dow JonesSpreadsheetLink & PortfolioEvaluator, Silicon Valley Sys-tems Word, Spell & List Handlersand more. $1495 or best offer.Dave 540-1355 (day)

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Continuing Service forMlnl'app'les Membersby Chuck ThlesfeldMembers can order DaMs (notMini'app'les Software orMacDOMs) usin,9theirowndiskettes. Here IS theprocedure:1. Blank diskette (or diskettes if morethan Qne is. P\lsired). . .2. Maller. lJlst\ettes Will be returned Insarne ~rotectlve d\lviCll used to sendthe dis. ettes, prOVided such will fit inthe mal er.3. Sen corrl;lct post!\Qe in stamps -- di not send money In lieu of stamps.4. elf-addressed return la~el.5. 1.00

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