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61(2021WebSeries-I/Secretariat)09June 2021

INTERNATIONAL ELECTROTECHNICAL COMMISSIONTECHNICAL COMMITTEE NO.61: SAFETY OF HOUSEHOLD AND SIMILAR ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES

Daily Report for TC 61 Web Meetings from 07 to 11 June 2021

Attendees of TC61 Meeting Web Meetings from 07 to 11 June 2021____________________________________________________________________________________

Fabio GARGANTINI ITALY (CHAIR)Dejun MA CHINA (VICE CHAIR)Randi MYERS UNITED STATES (SECRETARY)Grace ROH UNITED STATES (ASSISTANT SECRETARY)Christophe BOYER IEC CENTRAL OFFICE (TECHNICAL

OFFICER)

NC/ organization

Last name First name Role1 June 7 June 8 June 9 June 10 June 11

AU Booth* Geoffrey Head of Delegation X X X X X

AT Elbs Armin Rene Delegate X X X X X

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NC/ organization

Last name First name Role June 7 June 8 June 9 June 10 June 11

BE Meier Matthias Delegate

BE Vankerkhove Philippe Delegate X X

CA Brière David Delegate X X X X X

CA Martin* Ken Head of Delegation X X X X X

CN Bi Chongqiang Delegate

CN Chen Cankun Delegate X X X X X

CN Chen Dongpo Delegate X

CN Chen Jian Delegate X X X

CN Feng Caiyun Delegate X

CN Hu Qingyu Delegate X X X X

CN Huang Wenxiu Delegate X X X X X

CN Jian Pengfei Delegate

CN Leng Xiaozhuang Delegate X X X X

CN Li Shanshan Delegate

CN Liu Xu Delegate X X X

CN Liu Zhenquan Delegate

CN Miao Shuai Delegate X


NC/ organization


CN Qu Xinfang Delegate X X

CN Sheng Ri Delegate

CN Shi Yanling Delegate

CN Tang Hongzhao Delegate X

CN Wang Kun Delegate X X X X X

CN Wu* Meng Head of Delegation X X X X X

CN Xu Fang (Jane) Delegate

CN Yang Wei Delegate

CN Yuan Wangtan Delegate X

CN Zang Wenchao Delegate

CN Zeng Jian Delegate X X X

CN Zhang Ge Delegate X X X

CN Zhong Hua (Sabrina) Delegate X X

CN Zhong Jiajun Delegate

CN Zhou Xinan Delegate

CN Zhou Yanwu (Phoebe) Delegate X X

CN Zuo Xianggui Delegate


NC/ organization


DK Amundsen Helen Delegate X X X

DK Bruus-Jensen Jørgen Delegate X X X X X

DK Bukkjaer Gert Delegate

DK Christensen Hans Schou Delegate X X X X X

DK Dalgas-Madsen Per Delegate X X X X

DK Krzywkowski Anders Delegate X X X

DK Macura Dragan Delegate X X X

DK Nielsen Henning Delegate X X

DK Tychsen* Jørn Head of Delegation X X X X X

DK Vonsild Asbjørn Delegate X X

FI Mattinen* Reijo Head of Delegation X

FI Söderblom Kurt Delegate X X

FI Vesa Juha Delegate

FR Boileau* Yohann Head of Delegation X X X X X

FR Bottollier Stéphane Delegate X X X X X

FR Margas Jacques Delegate X X X

FR Thierry Julien Delegate X X X X X


NC/ organization


DE Dreyer Markus Delegate X X X X

DE Freier Heinz H. Delegate

DE Kaim Leo Delegate X

DE Landgräber Josef Delegate X X X

DE Mayle* Andreas Head of Delegation X X X X X

DE Perroni Dario Delegate X X

DE Pohl Klaus-Dieter Delegate X X X

DE Reiter Bruno Delegate

DE Richarz Frank Delegate X

DE Seiffert Edmund Delegate

DE Stoerkel Ulrich Delegate X

IR Kamelzadeh Mehdi Delegate

IR Maleki Roudposhti Hamideh Delegate X X X X X

IR Sharifi Hamid Delegate X X X X X

IR Tahertouloedel Sogol Delegate X X X X

IE Betz* Martin Head of Delegation

IT Aloisi Alberto Delegate X X X

IT Cecchinato* Gianluca Head of Delegation X X X X X


NC/ organization


IT Morgandi Arturo Delegate X

IT Petrignani Massimiliano Delegate X X X X

IT Reina Luca Delegate X X X

IT Segato Tiziano Delegate

IT Sinatra Fabio Delegate X X X X X

IT Stella Salvo Delegate X X X X

IT Togni Silvia Delegate X X X X X

JP Abe Shuji Delegate

JP Harashima Keisuke Delegate X

JP Hosoi Yukiharu Delegate X

JP Ikeno Tomoaki Delegate X X X X X

JP Koba Ichiro Delegate

JP Kodama Masachika Delegate X X X

JP Maekawa Yasunori Delegate X X X X X

JP Sasaki Akitsugu Delegate X X X X X

JP Sato* Masahiro Head of Delegation X X X X X


NC/ organization


JP Suzuki Yusuke Delegate

JP Takahashi Hiroyuki Delegate X

JP Tanabe Masatada Delegate X X X

JP Ueda Kazuhiro Delegate X X X X X

JP Ujita Ryota Delegate X X X X

KR Kim Kiyeol Delegate

KR Kim Sung Kwan Delegate

KR Song Juhee Delegate

MX Aquino Díaz Daniel Delegate

MX Fabián Vázquez Juan Israel Delegate X X X X X

MX García Cortés* Mariana Head of Delegation X X X X X

MX Sandoval Carreño Omar Alejandro Delegate X X X

MX Vega Alcántara Aliscair Delegate X X X X

NL Rutten Werner Delegate X

NL Van Aalderen* Dinand Head of Delegation X X X X X

NL Van Zanten Thijs Delegate X X X

NZ Johns* Derek Head of Delegation X X


NC/ organization


NO Oynes Tor Delegate X X X

NO Ulsrud* Terje Head of Delegation X X X X X

OK Aqib Muhammad Delegate X

PK Bux Ali Delegate

PK Dar Ismail Delegate X

PH Mallonga* Jessie Robert Head of Delegation X X X X X

PH Molina Avelino Jr. Delegate

PH Priol John Kenneth Delegate X X X X X

PL Pacula Pawel Delegate X X X X

PL Wójcik Michał Delegate X X X X

PL Wozny* Krzysztof Head of Delegation X X X X X

RU Feodoridi Georgii Delegate

SA AbdelAziz Mohamed Delegate X X

SA Alzaidan* Ali Head of Delegation

SA Elnaggar Yasser Delegate X

SA Mostafa Anan Delegate

SI Atelsek Marko Delegate X X X


NC/ organization


SI Janzovnik Rok Delegate X

SI Kraner* Danilo Head of Delegation X X X X X

ZA Mabena* Thabo Head of Delegation X X X X X

ES Guirado Torres* Rafael Head of Delegation X X X X X

ES Ondiviela Serrano Esther Delegate X X X X

SE Kindblad* Daniel Head of Delegation X X X X X

SE Mattsson Leif Delegate X X X

SE Salomonsson Johan Delegate

CH Dietschi* Fabian Head of Delegation X X X X X

CH Gromov Alexey Delegate X X X X

CH Roos Marcel Delegate X X

TR Açar Türkü Delegate

TR Doğan* Nilay Head of Delegation X X X X X

TR Eren Hakan Delegate X

TR Güdücü Ceren Delegate

TR Gürpınar Cansu Delegate X X

TR Ilbay Fatma Delegate X


NC/ organization


TR Kirbaş Aykut Delegate

TR Yıldırım Mehmet Fatih Delegate X

AE Intalan Marco Delegate X

GB Greenman Colin Delegate X X X X X

GB Harris Richard Delegate X X X X X

GB Jones Nicholas Delegate X X

GB Larkin Matthew Delegate

GB Rustemi Irma Delegate X X X X X

GB Sellers Alan Delegate

GB Skinner* Clem Head of Delegation X X X X X

US Andersen* Michelle Head of Delegation X X X X X

US Cooper Randall Delegate X X

US DeSilvia Tom Delegate X X

US Gwynn Pamela Delegate

US Hon Charlie Delegate X

US Kang Inhye Delegate

US Park John Delegate


NC/ organization


US Williams Matthew Delegate X X X

US Woyczynski Gregory Delegate X

VN Thi Thanh Van Doan Delegate

Consumers International

Evans Chris LiaisonX X X X

TC 72 Schwendemann Eckhard Liaison X X

TC 108 Holtzhausen Gerhard Liaison X X

ISO TC 126 Wolfgang Wolfgang Liaison

*Head of delegation

The proposed timetable below reflects the order of agenda items as of the conclusion of the meeting held on 11 June 2021.

Proposed Timetable for Series of Web Meetings

Day Monday 31 May

Tuesday 01 June

Wednesday 02 June

Thursday 03 June

Friday 04 June

Agenda Items 1-6a, 6c

6c (continued), 6d, 6e, 6f, 6g,

7a (begun)

7a (continued), 6b, 7b (begun)

7b (continued), 8-13

14-17, 19, 22, 29

Day Monday 07 June

Tuesday 08 June

Wednesday 09 June

Thursday 10 June

Friday 11 June

Agenda Items 18, 20, 21 23-26, 28 30-33, 37, 43 27, 34, 35b 35a, 36, 39a,

40, 41a, 41b

Day Monday 14 June

Tuesday 15 June

Agenda 41b 50-61


Items (continued), 39b, 42, 44-49

18. IEC 60335-2-27: Particular requirements for appliances for skin exposure to optical radiation 61/6202/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6263/INF Australia, Emission of UV-C and ratio of UV-B to the total irradianceAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT16)36The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6263A/INF

MB/NC Line number(e.g. 17)

Clause/ Subclause(e.g. 3.1)

Paragraph/ Figure/ Table/

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Type of comment

Comments Proposed change Observations of the secretariat

1 GB01 ge The British National Committee supports the proposal without comment.

Noted

2 DE02 ge The DE NC received divergent comments from its members and displays the different opinions in the following comments.

Noted

3 FR01 ge FR NC expresses reservations. Noted

4 DE01 ge Such specific topics should be handled, if available, in the WGs/MTs first. E.g. the scope of MT16 reads: Maintain (in conjunction with the Secretary of TC 61) Clause 32 and consequential clauses and annexes in IEC 60335 series of standards, including those under control of Subcommittees. Service personnel exposure is excluded from the scope. If an SC is considering including requirements for these matters, MT16 must be consulted for guidance.Shouldn’t that hold for NCs too?

Noted. It was confirmed at the meeting that if a NC would like to preliminarily involve an expert group (i.e. MT) in review of a DC before submitting the DC for discussion by the TC, that is an optional step but it cannot be mandatory for NCs to do this. It is mandatory for a WG, MTs, etc within TC 61 to involve a specific group of





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experts when it is indicated in the scope of the MT, WG, etc.

5 DE03 ge 1) The German Federal Office for Radiation Protection (BfS) supports the proposal to ensure that the device does not emit more UV radiation than the sun would emit with the following comments:

2) The German Federal Office for Radiation Protection (BfS) supports an adoption of the limit regarding the spectral irradiance in the UVC range (200 nm to 280 nm) as already used for example in IEC 60335-2-65.

3) An evaluation of solar measurement data from the German Federal Office for Radiation Protection (BfS) shows that the proposed range of ratio (R) is in accordance to natural conditions at earth surface considering a UVB range defined in CIE S017/2020. For a UVB range as used in IEC 60335-2-27 (280 nm ≤ λ ≤ 320) the proposed ratio could be extended up to 0,007 < R < 0,05.

Consider the BfS opinion if the proposal is not deleted

Noted; see also 6

6 DE04 te With the exception of the BfS the DE NC comments:1) The rationale of the AU proposal

gives no indication why the irradiance of UV appliances should be “more closely aligned with the irradiance from the sun at the earth surface.”The validity of the Bunsen-Roscoe-Law for the effects of UV doses, ensures the safety limits of UV appliances are given by the similarity of the erythemal effects

Delete the proposal

Noted. As there is a split position by the NC (see comments 5 and 6) it was not possible for the TC to make a determination on the comment.





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of the appliances to natural sun. The similarity of the irradiance would not add any safety to the appliances.

2) The sufficient limit for UV-C is given in the standard. The additional proposed limit for UV-C does not increase the safety and raise practical measurement difficulties in measurement equipment and calibration process.

3) The safety of UV appliances is determined by the limitation of the erythemal weighted radiation. Thereby the weighting function takes into account the effect of different portions of the radiation. The UVB to UV ratio has not been indicated as a separate risk factor.

Both parts of the proposal are unnecessary to cover the risks associated with the appliances covered by IEC 60335-2-27.

Delete the proposal on UVC

Delete the Australian proposal on UVB/UV-ratio

7 FI01 ge The Finnish NC does not support this proposal.We think that there is no need for those proposed additions to the existing IEC standard. The limits for UV-C are given in the last paragraph of clause 32.101 of IEC 60335-2-27. The “natural” sun spectral limits proposed by Australia would not be any safer than the current limits in the IEC standard. The “natural” sun itself is so variable according to location, time of day and season. (See additional graph in Annex)

We propose to delete this proposal. Not accepted

8 MT16-01

Rationale te The proposal indicates a rationale ‘There are no limits to check the inadvertent emission of UV-C…’

Delete the Australian proposal on UV-C, since it’s based on a non-correct rationale.

Not accepted





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The limits for UV-C are clearly given in the last paragraph of clause 32.101 of IEC 60335-2-27:

Appliances shall have a total irradiance not exceeding 0,003 W/m2, for wavelengths between 200 nm and 280 nm.

Additionally, the new limits proposed by the AU NC are already given in Annex EE (informative): Irradiance limits set by regional or national authorities.

9 MT16-02

Rationale te The safety of appliances emitting UV is determined by the limitation of the erythemal weighted radiation. Thereby the weighting function takes into account the effect of different portions of the radiation. The UVB to UV ratio has not been indicated as a separate risk factor.

Delete the Australian proposal on UVB/UV-ratio, since it’s based on a non-correct rationale and it’s unnecessary to cover the risks associated with the appliances covered by IEC 60335-2-27.

Not accepted

10 MT16-03

Rationale te As far as we know there is no evidence to suggest that the “natural” sun spectral limits proposed by the AU NC would be any safer than limits in IEC 60335-2-27:2019. Besides “natural” sun is so variable according to location, time of day, season, etc. it’s impossible to pick a single spectrum that would correlate best with the “natural” sun.

Delete the Australian proposal because it’s based on non-correct assumptions.

Not accepted

11 US01 1-6 32, 32.101

te There is not sufficient information provided to explain the need for the requirement and to why the values specified are appropriate. Input from MT16 on this proposal is also requested.

Delete proposal Not accepted

12 DE05 2 32.101 ed The addition in line 2 and 3 would contradict to the existing limit on UV-C

If not deleted, rephrase the proposal to fit to the existing text.

Accepted; refer to EG1 to add a





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(wavelength 200 to 280nm) in 32.101. Therefore, it should not be an addition.

sentence at the end of the penultimate paragraph of 32.101.

13 CZ01 3-6 32.101 te Limits based on dose units (J/m2) are more suitable for assessing UV exposure than on irradiance (W/m2), see limits in ICNIRP. This applies to this standard as well as the proposed change.

Not accepted. Doses are in the standard (e.g. for exposure schedules).Irradiance limits are in the standard since people need to reduce the risk of exposure timing.

14 DE06 3 - 4 32.101 te The limits for UV-C are already given and there is no rationale to set them in a different way.

Delete lines 3 - 4 Not accepted

15 FR02 3-4 te FR NC accepts the proposed terms. See 12

16 NO01 3-4 32.101 ge We do not support the proposed limit for spectral UVC irradiance. The radiation level < 280 nm is normally very low and difficult to distinguish from noise. Most instruments will not be able to measure it properly. The few small UVC spikes contribute to a very small extent to the dose and possible health effects. In our opinion the proposed limit will be of no practical importance, and we consider the existing 0,003 W/m2 irradiance limit for 200-280 nm sufficient.

Not accepted

17 DE07 5-6 32.101 te The proposal is transferred from Annex EE Table EE.2 to clause 32.101 as it. In table EE.2 the additional requirement is only valid for UV type 2 and 3, while clause 32.101 deals with the requirements for all UV types.

If not deleted, it should be proven by the AU NC that a transfer of the requirement to UV type 1, 4 and 5 is possible.

Not accepted





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18 FR03 5-6 32-101 te FR NC disagrees with Australian Committeeproposal and gives following comments

Noted

19 FR04 te FR NC recalls that UVB radiation is erythemal component of the UV emitters spectrum and considers that it would be a potential danger for human health to provide a minimum level.

Since June 1st 1997, French regulation asks a maximum ratio UVB/ total UV lower than 1,5 %(Art 8 decree 97-617 ; May 31 1997)

Delete minimum level R of 0,007.

Retain only R < 0,015

Accepted to read “shall fall within the limits R < 0,03”

A Secretariat Note will be included in the CDV to ask NCs to confirm the limit 0,03 or to propose different limits based on objective, factual evidence.

20 NO02 5-6 32.101 ge Generally, we support requirements to get sunbed irradiance more similar to that from natural sun. From our experience with measurements of the sun and different types of fluorescent UV lamps commonly used in Norway (0.3 W/m² and UV type 3 requirements), and calculations of the ratio UVB to total of the spectral irradiance, the suggested lower limit seems to be in accordance most UV type 3 sunbeds and the limit is ok. The upper limit seems to be somewhat lower than for natural sun and thereby a little strict. We propose increasing it to 0,04. That would also imply that most UV type 3 sunbeds on the market would be within the limits.

Change the upper limit in line 6 to 0,04: “… fall within the limits 0,0007 < R < 0,04.”

See 19

21 NO03 5-6 32.101 ed To avoid any confusion with effective irradiance, we suggest writing total spectral irradiance instead of total irradiance.

Add the word “spectral” twice in line 5: “The ratio (R) of the total spectral irradiance in the range 280 nm ≤ λ ≤ 320 nm to the total spectral irradiance in the range ….”

Not accepted

22 DE08 6 32.101 te Beside our comment DE4, the Australian National Committee intents to align the

Delete the lower limit for ratio R in line See 19





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total irradiance ratio of UVB with irradiance from natural sun at the earth surface. But there is no lower limit for such a ratio, since the ratio is determined by the travel distance of the radiation through atmosphere, which is very much depending on the solar angle, and reduces the UVB ration literally down to zero. Therefore, a lower limit for a UVB/UV-ratio is not justified by the rationale.

6

23 DE09 6 32.101 te Beside our comment DE4, the Australian National Committee intents to align the total irradiance ratio of UVB with irradiance from natural sun at the earth surface. But there is no ‘natural’ upper limit for the UVB/UV-ratio.The defined reference sun in DIN67501, which provides a well-accepted ‘average natural spectrum’ is used as solar simulator for sunscreen testing all over the world. The UVB/UV-ratio of this spectrum is 5,6%.The highest natural values will be measurable in the mountains at summer day noon, when the solar angle is nearly perpendicular to the earth’s surface. These will by far exceed the value of 5,6% in the reference sun. Prior to propose an upper limit of 3%, the Australian National Committee should investigate and document the natural values to align any proposal with the intention of the rationale.

Delete the upper limit for ratio R in line 6

See 19


DECISION: Proceed to CDV for next edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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20. IEC 60335-2-29: Particular requirements for battery chargers 20a. 61/6203/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6264/INF MT4, Externally accessible surface temperatures Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)27The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6264A/INF




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Type of comment


1 CH01 ge The CH NC supports this proposal with the following comment(s).

Noted.

2 DE01 ge DE-NC in general supports this proposal. Noted.


Noted.

4 US02 ge Input from MT31 is also requested. Noted.

5 CH02 3 1 ed A semicolon or full stop is missing at the end of this dashed item.

Depending on the position, add a semicolon or full stop at the end of this dashed item.

Accepted; Refer to EG1.

6 JP01 3 1. Scope ge In this proposed description, the relationship between "Battery chargers for electric vehicles " and "the standards within the scope of IEC TC 69" in parentheses is not clear.Therefore, there is a concern that the phrase in parentheses might be ignored by readers, and as a result, it may be misunderstood that all battery chargers for electric vehicles are not covered by 60335-2-29.In fact, many batteries for small electric vehicles, such as two (or three)-wheelers and light four-wheeled vehicles, are mainly charged by household chargers which are not specified in TC69 standards

To change line 3 from– Battery chargers for electric vehicles (standards within the scope of IEC TC 69)to– Battery chargers that are covered by the standards already developed by IEC TC 69 (electrically propelled road vehicles), such as IEC 61851-23.

Accepted





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but apply 60335-2-29.From the above, it should not be the charger for electric vehicles that is excluded from 60335-2-29, but it should be the charger covered by the standard issued by TC69.NOTE:The question of whether the battery chargers for electric vehicles should be removed from the scope of IEC 60335-2-29 was previously discussed within TC61, and as a result this statement was deleted in the revision to Ver. 5.0 (It was decided not to exclude it from the scope).(See Annex to this comment sheet. IEC 61851-series are the standards for EV power supply equipment in IEC TC 69.)

7 NL01 9-14 3.5.104 ed As more and more cars become electric the term “standard automotive battery” causes confusion and distinction should be made between cranking and propulsion (EV battery).

Change “standard automotive batteries” into “automotive cranking battery”

Accepted

8 CH03 12 3.5.104 ed In Clause 3, there are no full stops at the end of the text defining a term.

Delete the full stop at the end of the sentence.

Accepted; refer to EG1

9 AU01 49 te Line 49 and 50 should be reworded as in the CDV for 2-59

Delete line 49 and 50 and replace with the following:

The temperature rise of handles or grips of vents and air shutters shall not exceed the value specified in Table 3 for surfaces of handles, knobs, grips and similar parts which are held for short periods only in normal use

See 11

10 DE02 49-50 11.8 te The text in these lines seems to be a proposal for IEC 60335-1, not for IEC

Delete the text of lines 49 and 50 See 11





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60335-2-29 and should not be added in part 2-29.

11 US01 49-50 11.8 te Battery chargers do not have adjustable vents and air shutters.

Delete lines 49-50 Accepted.

12 CH04 53 11.8 Table 101 ed Like in other Parts 2 improve clarity of headline by adding “limits” after “rise” and adding “of external accessible surfaces”.

ReplaceTemperature rise of external

accessible surfaces a

withTemperature rise limits of external


Not accepted.The title is consistent with other Part 2 standards and with the format of Tables 3 and 9.


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20b. 61/6204/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6265/INF Australia, Battery chargerThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6265A/INF




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1 DE01 ge DE-NC in general supports the proposal Noted

2 ES01 ge The ES NC agrees with the proposal and has no comments.

Noted

3 FI01 ge The Finnish NC wishes to submit the following comments to this proposal.

Noted

4 FI02 1-2 7.1 te It is not necessary to give the types of batteries in product itself. There is not necessarily enough space for this marking on the product. We propose that this

We propose to transfer this requirement to subclause 7.12.1.

See 6





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information should be given in the instructions.

5 GB01 1-6 7.1 and 7.15

ge The British National Committee recommends referring the proposal to MT31.Additionally, the following should be considered:Does ‘type of battery’ mean the chemistry or the battery model?This requirement should apply only to battery chargers not intended for a specific battery/product.In case the requirement should apply to the battery/product and not to the charger (i.e. which charger to use), consideration needs to be given to the fact that often the ‘charger’ is an external power supply with no charging management.

Refer the proposal to MT31. See 6

6 JP01 1-23-6

7.17.15

te We do not support the proposal for the following reasons.

(1) In the existing Part 2-29, clause 7.12 includes similar adequate requirements as below-underlined, and it is not necessary to add the proposed marking on the appliance.

(2) Battery chargers for small appliances such as shavers have too small surface area to mark the addition.

Instructions in the existing Part 2-19:

The instructions for type 1 battery chargers shall also– specify the types, the number of

batteries and the rated capacity of the batteries that can be charged;

– include a warning against recharging non-rechargeable batteries.

Delete the proposal. Accepted





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The instructions for type 2 battery chargers shall also– specify the batteries intended to be

charged, such as by a catalogue number, series identification or the equivalent;

– specify the ambient temperature range for the charger during charging.

7 JP02 1-3 7.1 te If JP1 is not accepted, we propose a modification to the AU proposal for the following reason.

If the battery charger and the relevant battery are constructed to have specific configuration, such as unique arrangement of contact terminals or a unique shape of connectors, to allow users to charge the battery only in specific combination of the both, the proposed marking is not needed.

Add the underlined text.

7.1 Insert after the seventh dash item of the first paragraph, the following text:– the types of battery that are intended

to be charged by the battery charger, unless the battery charger and the relevant battery are constructed to have specific configuration to charge the battery only in specific combination of the battery charger and the battery

See 6

8 US1 1-6 te This is already covered by paragraphs 2 and 3 of 7.12 and the 6th dashed item of 7.1 where the appliance is marked to instruct the user to read the instructions before using the charger. The use of instructions is adequate and there is no need to change these to markings.

Delete the proposal See 6

9 DE02 2 7.1 ed “type of battery” is unclear. As the proposed requirements are already applicable in the AS/NZS version of IEC 60335-2-29, and experience has shown that Australian test houses accept the marking of the battery chemistry as compliance with this requirement, improvement of the wording is needed.

AU-NC is invited to improve the wording “type of battery”

See 6





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10 DE03 2 7.1 te The proposed marking may be necessary and useful for general purpose battery chargers. However, for dedicated chargers for dedicated batteries do not need this marking, because the design protects the wrong combination of the both. Such conditional marking is already introduced, like in the 4th dashed item of scl. 7.1

Add at the end:“, unless it is prohibited by construction that the battery charger can be connected to the wrong type of battery, such as: - recessed terminals, or- electronic authentication procedures, or- non-standard connectors.

See 6

11 DK01 2 7.1 te The DK NC does not believe that providing a marking with the types of batteries to be charged will prevent that some user will attempt to charge a battery that is not intended to be charged as stated in the rationale.

Persons attempting to charge non-rechargeable batteries are not likely to neither notice nor to follow this type of marking.

Additionally, we do not believe that the proposed new marking is sufficiently specific. The term "type of battery" is likely to cause confusion and inconsistencies in the application of the standard and therefore a more detailed and specific requirement would need to be provided.


12 NL01 2 7.1 ed The term “type of battery” is unclear as it could refer to a model or to type of chemistry

NLNC suggest to use “Model or type reference” analog to the terminology used in IEC 60335-1 ed. 6 Annex B.

Modify as follows:

– Model or type reference of the battery that is intended to be charged by the battery charger.

See 6

13 FI03 4-6 7.15 te We are of the opinion that this kind of marking is not needed. It can be

We propose to delete lines 4-6. See 6





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misleading if there are several battery types that are intended to be charged by the battery charger.

14 NL02 5-6 7.15 te The term “type of battery” is unclear as it could refer to a model or to type of chemistry

It is also not necessary to have this marking visible while the battery is connected to the charger.

Modify as follows:

The marking of model or type reference of the battery that are intended to be charged by the battery charger shall be visible when the battery charger is being used, as in normal use, but without the battery being connected to the battery charger.

See 6

15 NO01 5-6 7.15 ed Paragraph 2 of 7.15 of part 1 already specifies that marking on the appliance shall be clearly discernible from the outside of the appliance, but that it may be beneath a cover. We assume the intention of the Australian proposal is to not accept this marking to be beneath any cover?

If our assumption is correct, change the text to“The marking concerning the types of battery batteries that are intended to be charged by the battery charger shall not be visible when the battery charger is being used, as in normal use beneath a cover”.

See 6

16 DE04 6 7.15 te It is not necessary to have the marking visible while the battery is connected to the charger.

Add at the end:“, but without the battery to be charged connected to the battery charger.”

See 6

DECISION: Proposal not accepted

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21. IEC 60335-2-30: Particular requirements for room heaters 21a. 61/6205/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6266/INF Germany, Cab caravan heatersThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6266A/INF





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Noted

2 GB01 te The British National Committee accepts the premise that the dashed item in note 103 should be deleted. However, we do not see the need to link caravan heaters with cab heaters in the text of the standard.

Noted.

3 SE01 ge Requirements for cab heaters was introduced in IEC 60335-2-30 based on EN 50408 which was based on a work from Scandinavian countries. Cab heaters are used only in a few cold countries in order to heat up the driver compartment in temperatures well below 0°C. They are normally switched on by a timer a couple of hours before the driver will entrance the car. The driver will have a temperature of maybe +10°C instead of -20°C when entering the car. Based on this specific use, additional requirements compare to 60335-2-30 is needed.Regarding caravan heaters we believe the situation is more similar to ordinary room heaters to keep the room temperature at pre-determined comfort temperature. There are other 60335 standards for which additional requirements for use in caravans is applied such as 60335-2-24 and we believe that similar approach can be used for heaters intended for caravans.

Noted

4 SE02 2-4 1 ed Cab heaters are covered by the paragraph after Note 101 and need not to be included also as a dashed item in Note 101

Replace cab heater in last dashed item in Note 101 with caravan heater.

Accepted





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5 SE03 5-7 1 ed No need to introduce caravans, see SE02.

Delete the proposal for modification Accepted to not introduce caravan heaters, but delete in Note 103 the last dashed item.

6 NO01 10 (3.108) ed Sub-clause number is missing Add «3.108» in front of the definition of a «Caravan heater”

Accepted. In addition, it was agreed to have a new requirement to be the last sentence in 7.1 as follows:

Caravan heaters shall be marked with the following:

Caravan heater

7 CH02 13 – 86 7 - 30 ed Wrong formatting of defined term “caravan heater”.

Check and correct formatting of “caravan heater”.

Accepted

8 SE04 11.2 te This specific test corner for cab heaters was developed in order to simulate the space in front of the passenger seat where the cab heater is normally placed, fixed or portable. We are of the opinion that caravan heaters can be tested as ordinary fixed or portable room heaters.

Delete the proposal for modification Accepted

9 SE05 50-51 21.1 te Increased impact test for cab heaters is based on possible rough handling since cab heaters are placed in the area where the passenger place the feet.. We don´t see the same need for caravan heaters.

Not necessary. Delete Accepted

10 SE06 62-66 21.106 te See SE05 Not necessary. Delete Accepted

11 NO02 68 22.112 ed Spelling error Change from “21.112” to “22.112”. Accepted



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21b. 61/6206/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6267/INF Germany, Non-rigid suspension for ceiling mounted heatersThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6267A/INF




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Noted

2 FI01 ge The Finnish NC wishes to submit the following comment to this proposal.

Noted

3 AU01 te The Added a definition for arms reach in the standard has no relevance to the user, and added marking requirement is useless as the user / installer won’t know the definition of arms reach as they don’t have the standard

What is the difference if it has rigid or non rigid mounting means?

Strongly reject the DCWe should just specify a minimum install height off the ground.

See 13

4 FI02 ge We are of the opinion that requirements and a relevant test should be added to check the mechanical strength of the non-rigid suspension means for ceiling mounting.

We propose that relevant mechanical requirements and tests will be added for the non-rigid suspension means for ceiling mounting.

See 13

5 NO01 ge The rationale seems to miss information regarding which problem this proposal intends to solve.

To be clarified. See 13

6 US01 te Non-rigid suspension mounting means may be more susceptible to user modification/substitution. Non-rigid suspended would also be susceptible to swinging, such as during cleaning, which may compromise the mounting hardware attached to the ceiling surface.

Additional requirements to address proper installation instructions (7.12.1) and suitability of the mounting if subjected to forces and swinging motion during cleaning are needed (22.1xx)

See 13





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7 DK01 1-20 te This is a new type of appliance not currently covered or foreseen by the existing requirements. For this reason and due to the nature of the shown type of appliance, such new appliance can only be added to the standard with corresponding requirements (if needed) following a risk assessment in accordance with IEC guide 116.Such assessment does not appear to have been carried out.


8 NL01 5-15 3.108 te As the definition is only used once in clause 7.12, there is no need for a definition.

Delete proposal (lines 5-15) See 13

9 US02 5-17 3.108 te There is no point in defining a term that is only used in the text of instructions for the user, since the user will not have access to the defined term. The instructions should instead specify the minimum height above the floor for installation.

Delete the definition. See 13

10 CI/ANEC 01

6 3.108 te The dimensional requirement specified as “arms reach” should be more precisely defined.

Adopt requirements similar to the example of IEC 60364-4-41 given in the DC

See 13

11 CH02 9 3.108 ed In Clause 3, there are no full stops at the end of the text defining a term.

Delete the full stop at the end of the sentence.

See 13

12 US03 18-22 7.12 ed This should be relocated to 7.12.1 since it is related to installation instructions and modified to specify the minimum height above the floor similar to what is done for heaters for mounting at a high level.

Replace with

7.12.1 Addition:

The installation instructions for heating appliances with non-rigid suspension means for ceiling mounting shall state that the heater must be installed at least 2,5 m above the floor.

See 13





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13 CA01 22 7.12 - te Arms reach is only used in a user instruction, which is seen only by the appliance user, so the definition is never seen, nor the term understood.

The CANC recommends incorporating the distance limits directly into 7.12 and deleting the definition.

Delete lines 1 to 15 of the proposal.

Modify line 22 of the proposal as follows:

The heater shall be installed outside arms reach at a minimum height of 2,5 m from the floor and at a minimum distance of 1,25 m in all horizontal directions from the where a person may be located.

Accepted to be added in 7.12.1 with the following wording:The installation instructions for heating appliances with suspension means for ceiling mounting shall state the substance of the following:

The heater shall be installed at a minimum height of 2,3 m from the floor.In addition, in 21.103 modify the requirement as follows:The suspension means for ceiling mounted heating appliances shall have adequate strength.

14 NL02 22 7.12 te NLNC believes the instructions should detail installation instructions with regards to height as “outside arms reach” is subjective.

Change to:The heater shall be installed at a height of at least 2.5 m above the floor.

See 13

15 NO02 22 7.12 te How can people know what “outside arms reach” means? This will be an individual evaluation.

We propose to change the text to:“The heater shall be installed outside arms reach at least 2,5 m from the floor and at least 1,25 m in all horizontal directions from the locations a person may be”.

See 13



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23. IEC 60335-2-36: Particular requirements for commercial electric cooking ranges, ovens, hobs and hob elements 61/6158/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6281/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/JPNC)48, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)56The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6281A/RVC




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Noted

2 AU01 ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1 precludes use of older part twos.

Suggest to add the following words for clarityThis part 2 is to be used in conjunction with the latest edition of IEC 60335-1 and its amendments unless that edition precludes it; in that case, the latest edition that does not preclude it is used. It was established on the basis of the sixth edition (2020) of that standard.

Accepted; referred to EG1 for editorial review.

3 CH02 17 FOREWORD

ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.

Add a full stop at the end of the sentence.

Accepted

4 DK01 ge The scope replaces the scope in the part 1. Therefore DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances are excluded from the scope. While appliances in the scope of this standard are unlikely to be battery-operated, consistency in the implementation of battery related requirements is lacking.

By omitting the wording on

To create consistency between scope and requirements DKNC proposes to:

Delete clause 12 and annex B in this part 2.

or alternatively:

Add DC-supplied and battery-operated

Accepted to add a seventh dashed item after line 148 in the scope the following:

- battery-operated appliances





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DC and battery-operated appliances found in part 1 scope, it seems clear that such appliances are not in scope of this part 2.

This is confirmed by the replacement in of part 1 requirements in11.7 which effectively exclude the heating test for appliances containing batteries.

However, clause 12 on charging of metal-ion batteries has been implemented

Likewise, annex B from part 1 has not been deleted.

appliances to the scope and relevant requirements for battery operated appliances in cl. 11.7 and, if necessary, in B.11.1

In Clause 12 include the following: This clause of Part 1 is not applicable.

5 US01 136 1 ed Household appliances should also be included in the list of products not covered under this standard

Add the following dashed item under line 136:

- stationary cooking ranges, hobs, ovens and similar appliances for household use (IEC 60335-2-6)

portable cooking appliances for household use (IEC 60335-2-9)

Not accepted. The household appliances are already excluded in the scope (line 114);

The listed standards as “not applicable” are related to commercial appliances that are developed for specific application and could be “confused” for example due to the term “oven”

6 CH03 140 1 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.


Accepted to add a“;” semicolon at the end of line.





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7 US02 168 3.1.4 ed This should be Note 101 to entry Note 101 to entry Accepted

8 DE01 217-219 3.1.9 ed 1. The words “in the intended manner” haven’t been deleted as proposed in 61/6078/DC and accepted in the Web Meetings. To align the wording in all parts 2 (for commercial catering equipment) this and the comma behind “use” should be deleted in this part too.

2. The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other commercial catering equipment parts. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Modify lines 217 - 219 to read as follows:“Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use, taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.”

Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, 47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

1. Not accepted. The CDV is already modified accordingly.

2. Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

9 CH04 229 3.5.102 ed Improve formulation. Replace “hob elements” with “hob element(s)”.

Not accepted. Sentences with “one or more” require “s” at the end of the subject (not (s)) – see similar sentences in Part 1. In any case, refer to EG1.





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10 DE02 232 - 235

3.5.103 te The installation wall is not related to the type of the appliance. For the testing the appliance must be fixed to an installation wall.

Shift this definition to 3.8 as 3.8.101 Accepted.

10 bis

MT32 270 - 277

3.6.108, 3.6.109

ed These terms are in 3.8 of the MT32 CDV’s Renumber as 3.8.102 and 3.8.103 Not accepted. For coherence with Part 1 where accessible parts are defined in 3.6.3 this definition will remain in 3.6.108 and 3.6.109.

10 ter

MT32 281 5.101 ed Considering that this standard can be applied to electrical part of appliances making use of other forms of energy (e.g. gas catering equipment), in this way it will be clearer that in case of gas appliances equipped with electrical motor (e.g. for lifting / tilting system) they shall be tested as motor operated appliances

Appliances are tested as heating appliances even if they incorporate a motor when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.

Accepted with the following wording: Appliances are tested as heating appliances when during a mode of operation electrical heaters are energized. If no electrical heaters are energized the appliances are tested as motor appliances.

11 CH05 342, 343, 345, 351, 352

7.12 ed As exception, parts of text required by 7.12 to be provided in the instructions need not to be formatted in bold, even when being defined terms (in general, users of appliances do not have access to standards, hence they do not know the meaning of formatting of words).

Format “hob surface”, “cooking zones”, “hob surface”, “hob element” and “pan detector” in roman, not in bold.

Refer to EG1.

12 CH06 348 7.12 ed Improve formulation. Delete “with” before “the manufacturer”.

Refer to EG1

13 DK02 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6098A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. No changes have however been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe

Modify the standard to exclude test probe 18 in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2

Comment withdrawn by DK NC during the meeting.





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18 and so it will be required based on the part 1.

14 CH07 561 11.8 Table 101 ed Like in other Parts 2 improve clarity of headline by adding “limits” after “rise”.


accessible surfaces b

with

Temperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces b

Not accepted.The title is consistent with other Part 2 standards and with the format of Tables 3 and 9

15 CH08 561 11.8 Footnote a of Table 101

ed A semicolon is missing at the end of the third dashed item.

Add a semicolon at the end of the third dashed item.

Accepted

15bis

MT32 407 11.8 Footnote b of Table 101

ed In the second line there is a superfluous comma after “… the appliance”.

In the second line, delete the comma after “… the appliance”.

Accepted

16 DK03 595-601 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK01 in 61/6100A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g. IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.

Instead, we believe that the intent of the splash test is to simulate water that might splash from the floor during cleaning could reach underneath the appliance and into the appliance that way. If not, there is nothing to mitigate the risks from water splashing into the appliance from underneath in real use.

Modify line 595 so that it reads:

"and adjustable feet shall be set at the maximum height in accordance with the instruction for use."

In line 597 and in line 601 delete the part that reads "the sides of"

Accepted with the following modification to line 595:

“and adjustable feet shall be set in accordance with the instruction for use to the most unfavourable height.”

Replace lines 596 to 599 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to





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Therefor in our opinion the worst-case situation is when the feet are adjusted to the highest setting, leaving the largest opening between the floor and the bottom of the appliance.

splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

Replace the text in line 601 to 603: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

17 SA01 595 15.1.1 Paragraph 2

The apparatus shown in Figure 103 is used. The appliance is placed in normal position of use 594 and adjustable feet shall be set at minimum level in accordance with the instruction for use.

15.1.1 The apparatus shown in Figure 103 is used. The appliance is placed in normal position of use 594 and adjustable feet shall be set at maximum level in accordance with the

See 16





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instruction for use.

18 DE03 635 - 656

15.101 ed The accepted changes from the DC were not included.

In last sentence of the test specifications introduce a comma (,) after the word “appliances”

Not accepted

19 DK04 692 18.102 ed The agreed upon change has not been implemented.


"subjected to a spillage test using 2 (−0 +0,1) l of cold water between 10 °C and 15 °C, poured steadily"

Not accepted, based on the IEC Directives, which do not use a “minus” or “plus” sign before zero.

20 DE04 695 - 696

18.102 ed The accepted changes from the DC were not included.

In last sentences of the test specifications remove the comma (,).

Accepted

20bis

MT32 700; 702;703;704

19.1 ed Remove “strikethrough” from the sentences

Accepted to keep the existing text in 19.1 in 60335-2-36 ED 6 2017 and add the following:

A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.

21 DE05 after 730

19.11.2 ed In 61/6078/DC the idea was to shift the requirement of 19.11.2 to 22.110 + 22.111 due to in short: simplification of EMC tests.

Add the following:

“19.11.2 Addition:

During simulation of the fault

Accepted





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The decision (see page 95f. of: “Daily Report Compilation for TC 61 Web Meetings/ 61(2020Web/Secretariat)123”) on comment 16 was to delete the lines 232 to 255. The proposal in 61/6078/DC line 186 to delete 19.11.2 was accepted as there were no comments given on this line.In consequence 19.11.2 as well as 22.110 + 22.111 have been deleted by mistake.So, the requirement of 19.11.2 in the existing standard is missing and must be reinstalled.

conditions, it shall be possible to switch off any energized hob element.

The fault conditions are also simulated with all hob elements switched off, the appliance being supplied at rated voltage. If a pan detector is incorporated, a suitable vessel is placed on the cooking zone.The hob elements shall not become energized.”

22 DE06 792 21.101 ed The accepted changes from the DC were not completely included. The word “of” is missing.

Modify the text so that it reads: … mass of 40 kg …

Accepted

23 DE07 799 21.101 ed Part 36 shall be aligned to part 42 “commercial electric forced convection ovens, steam cookers and steam-convection ovens” not to part 6.In consequence, the line shall be modified in the following manner:shelf. During this test the shelf shall not tip beyond and angle of 6 degrees by more than 10 ° to the horizontal.800 NOTE A small angle of deflection is allowed.

Modify line 799 as follows:“shelf. During this test the shelf shall not tip by more than 10 ° to the horizontal.”

Accepted

24 DE08 824 22.54 ed This requirement has been integrated in part 1 Ed.5.1. In part 36 Ed.6.0 it was excluded by “not applicable”. Why this has been done is not traceable. In all other commercial catering parts 22.54 of part 1 it is still valid. To align it with the other commercial catering parts delete “not applicable”.

Delete line 824. Accepted

25 DE09 825 22.55 ed This requirement has been integrated in Delete line 825. Accepted





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part 1 Ed.5.1. In part 36 Ed.6.0 it was excluded by “not applicable”. Why this has been done is not traceable. In all other commercial catering parts 22.55 of part 1 it is still valid. To align it with the other commercial catering parts delete “not applicable”.

26 DK05 829-831 22.101 te The existing Note has been converted to normative text. However, the note is purely informative in nature and does not contain any requirements and is intended to explain the meaning of "trip free type".

Since this is explanatory and does not contain any requirements, it should not be part of the normative requirement but remain as a note. Alternatively, a reference to the defined term in IEC 60730 may be given instead.

Delete the sentence starting in line 829-831 and reinstate the NOTE

Or

Add the following after line 838:

NOTE a definition of "trip free" is given in IEC 60730-1:2013 including IEC 60730-1:2013/AMD1:2015

Accepted to delete the sentence in lines 829-831 and reinstate the following Note after line 838 in the CDV:

Trip-free is an automatic action that is independent of manipulation or position of the actuating member.

27 DE10 912-921 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted except of the following wording: “Delete ‘power’ before ‘supply cord’” In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 and other commercial catering parts but with an additional paragraph (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) Text of 61/6078/DC:“Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance is provided with a set of

To align part 2-36 with 2-37 and the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 912-921 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the power supply cord.The connection to the supply wires of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.”

Text of the CDV:“Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”The cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement.

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for seventh edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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24. IEC 60335-2-37: Particular requirements for commercial electric doughnut fryers and deep fat fryers 61/6159/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6282/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)57The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6282A/RVC




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Noted




3 CH02 4, 18 FOREWORD



Accepted


By omitting the wording on DC and battery-operated appliances found in part 1 scope, it seems clear that such appliances are not in scope of this part 2.

This is confirmed by the replacement in of part 1



or alternatively:

Add DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances to the scope and relevant requirements for battery operated appliances in cl. 11.7 and, if necessary, in B.11.1

Accepted to add a fourth dashed item after line 139 in the scope the following:







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requirements in11.7 which effectively exclude the heating test for appliances containing batteries.




Add the following dashed item under line 135:deep fat fryers for household use (IEC 60335-2-13)

Not accepted. The household appliances are already excluded in the scope in line 118.

6 CH03 139 1 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.


Accepted

7 DE01 168-170 3.1.9 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors”. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Modify lines 168 - 170 to read as follows:Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most severe unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.





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8 DK02 168-169 3.1.9 ed The agreed upon change to delete "in the intended manner" has not been implemented

In line 168-169 delete "in the intended manner":

"....appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most..."

See 7

9 DK03 168 3.1.9 te The addition "and detachable electrical parts" was not included in the original proposal (61/6079/DC) or agreed during the meeting (61/6199A/INF), so it is not understood where the addition originate.

It recognized that the term is already used in the existing standard, but it is not known what "detachable electrical parts" actually means. Despite the bold font, the term is not defined.

Explain the origin of this addition and propose a definition of the term "detachable electrical parts"

Noted. Examples of detachable electrical parts are probes for measuring temperature at the core of the food being cooked or motorized baskets.

10 US02 197-204 3.8.103, 3.8.104

ed These should be relocated to 3.6 Add the following heading and renumber these as 3.6.101 and 3.6.1023.6 Definitions relating to parts of an appliance3.6.1013.6.102

Accepted

10 bis








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11 US03 240 7.1 ed Indent the marking text Indent line 240 Accepted

12 US04 241 7.6 ed Caution should be lower case caution, hot surface Accepted

13 US05 252-254 7.12 ed Indent the instruction text Indent lines 252-254 Accepted

14 DE02 266-267 7.12 ed To align the wording with part -2-36 the wording shall be modified.

Modify lines 266 - 267 to read as follows:“If any of symbols IEC 60417-5021 (2002-10) or IEC 60417-5041 (2002-10) are marked on the appliance, its meaning shall be explained.”

Accepted

15 US06 285-287 7.12.1 ed Even with the use of commas, this requirement does not read clearly. Restructure editorially for clarity and bold stationary appliances

Unless the appliance or part is intended to be partially or completely immersed in water for cleaning, the instructions for appliances with detachable electrical parts and appliances, other than stationary appliances, shall state that the appliance or part must not be immersed.

Accepted

16 DK04 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6099A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. No changes have however been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe 18 and so it will be required based on the part 1.



17 DE03 386-387 11.4 ed Grammatically incorrect. Modify lines 386 - 387 to read as follows:“temperature rises of the components for which the temperature rise limits were exceeded are measured.”

Accepted

18 US07 387 11.4 ed Typo measured. See 17




Not accepted.The title is consistent with other





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Part 2 standards and with the format of Tables 3 and 9

20 CH05 407 11.8 Footnote a of Table 101



Accepted

21 CH06 407 11.8 Footnote b of Table 101



Accepted

22 US08 422-426 15.1 (15.102)

ed This addition to 15.1 is not necessary since 15.101 includes its own requirement and compliance criteria. Instead this content should be included in 15.102 as proposed for -2-39 in 61/6161/CDV.

Delete lines 422-426 and update 15.102 as follows: 15.102 Appliances or detachable electrical parts intended to be partially or completely immersed in water for cleaning shall have adequate protection against the effects of immersion.

This requirement also applies to appliances other than stationary or any detachable electrical parts not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in the instructions.

Accepted

23 DK05 431-437 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK01 in 61/6100A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g., IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash





“and adjustable feet shall be set in accordance with the instruction for use to the most





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test.



unfavourable height.”

Replace lines 432 to 435 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

Replace the text in line 436 to 439: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so





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regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

24 SA01 431 15.1.1 Paragraph 2


15.1.1 The apparatus shown in Figure 103 is used. The appliance is placed in normal position of use 594 and adjustable feet shall be set at maximum level in accordance with the instruction for use.

See 23

25 DE04 498-500 19.1 ed To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) exchange “severe” by “unfavourable”.

Modify lines 498 - 500 to read as follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition set in the most severe unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”

Accepted

26 CH07 504 19.1 NOTE 101 ed Since the text of NOTE 101 is converted to normative text, NOTE 101 is to be deleted.

Format NOTE 101 in strikethrough. See 27

27 DE05 504 19.1 ed The note hasn’t been deleted by mistake Delete line 504 Accepted

28 DE06 522 19.13 ed The limiting of the temperature only makes sense for the first part of the test in 19.2 (19.2 a) ) and 19.3.

Modify line 522 to read as follows:“During the first part of the test in 19.2 and 19.3 the temperature….”

Accepted with the following wording to be refined by EG1:During the tests of 19.2 a) and 19.3 when carried out under the specification of 19.2 a), the





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temperature…

29 DK06 551-553 22.101 te Existing Note has been converted to normative text. However, the note is purely informative in nature and does not contain any requirements and is intended to explain the meaning of "trip free type".


Delete the sentence starting in line 551-553 and reinstate the NOTE

or





30 DK07 622-624 22.110 te The text "This requirement is met if they are placed in a recess such that they cannot be withdrawn by means of test probe B of IEC 61032:1997 using a single action" has not been contained in the original proposal 61/6079/DC or otherwise discussed. It is also not a part of converting the note to normative text.

Therefor the text cannot be included without a separate proposal and associated technical discussions. In addition, the text does not appear to be technically correct.

Delete the last sentence from line 622-624

Accepted

31 US09 621, 624

22.110 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 10 N force specified in IEC 61032 be used here.

Add the following at the end of lines 621 and 624:‘with a force of 10 N’

Accepted to be added at the end of line 621

32 DE07 670-671 22.121 te The requirement: Delete lines 670-671. See 33





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“Thermal controls shall not be incorporated in connectors complying with the standard sheets of IEC 60320-3 or IEC 60309-2.”was not in the DC. Where does it come from?Thermal controls incorporated in connectors are not used in commercial catering equipment.The new requirement was integrated in parts -2-37, -38, -39, -48, -49, -50 but not integrated in parts 2-36, -42, -47. Why not in these parts too if the requirement is considered reasonable for commercial catering equipment?

33 DK08 670-671 22.121 te This content is assumed to stem from the deleted content in cl. 24.101 (line 698). However, the content in 24.101 was more restrictive than the proposed change as it applied to all connectors and not only those complying with the standard sheets of 60320-3 or 60309-2 as is now proposed.

As such this constitute a technical change and will require a separate proposal and cannot be supported

Modify line 670-671 so that it reads:

"22.121 Thermal controls shall not be incorporated in connectors"

Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47. Referred to EG1 to verify these updates.

34 DE08 708-727 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted except of the following wording: “Delete ‘power’ before ‘supply cord’” In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group.Text of 61/6079/DC:“Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply

To align part 2-37 with 2-36, 2-38 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 708 - 727 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be

Accepted





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Type of comment


cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the power supply cord.The connection to the supply wires of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.”

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions. Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. The connection to the supply wires of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.

suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”





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If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Lines 710 - 713 are very similar to the existing lines 704 - 707 in the current standard. In lines 710 - 713 the cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement. The meaning of the text has been twisted.

35 CH08 839 Bibliography ed Wrong format of headline. Format “Bibliography” as bold headline.

Not accepted. In the published standard it is not bolded; EG1 to verify.


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25. IEC 60335-2-38: Particular requirements for commercial electric griddles and griddle grills 61/6160/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6283/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)58The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6283A/RVC




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Type of comment


1 CH01 ge The CH NC supports this proposal with Noted





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Type of comment


the following comment(s).











or alternatively:


Accepted to add a sixth dashed item after line 143 in the scope the following:







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Type of comment



Add the following dashed item under line 137:portable cooking appliances for household use (IEC 60335-2-9)


5 DE01 179-181 3.1.9 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors”. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Modify lines 179 - 181 to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.





See 5


It recognized that the term is already used in the existing standard but it is not known


Noted. Examples of detachable electrical parts are probes for measuring temperature at the core of the food being cooked or removable heating





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Type of comment


what "detachable electrical parts" actually means. Despite the bold font, the term is not defined.

elements.

8 US02 200-207 3.8.102, 3.8.103

ed These should be relocated to 3.6 Renumber these as 3.6.102 and 3.6.103

Accepted

8 bis





10 DE02 250-251 7.12 ed To align the wording with part -2-36 and -2-37 the wording shall be modified.


Accepted



Unless the appliance or part is intended to be partially or completely immersed in water for cleaning, the instructions for appliances with detachable electrical parts and appliances, other than stationary appliances, shall state that the appliance or part must not be immersed.

Accepted





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Type of comment


13 US06 305 7.15 ed The comma after use was deleted but is needed to separate the qualifying phrase.

appliance and, if not visible when the appliance is installed as in normal use, shall be included

Accepted





Accepted










Accepted

18 DE04 437-443 15.1 ed Though 61/6080/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the clause was completely modified to convert the note into normative text.MT32 tried hard to align the wording in all commercial catering equipment-parts 2.

To align the wording with the other commercial catering equipment-parts 2 modify lines 437 - 443 to read as follows:15.1 Addition: Any detachable electrical parts or appliances, other than stationary appliances, not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion for cleaning, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in water for

See 19





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cleaning in the instructions, are also subjected to the tests of 15.102.

19 US07 437-443 15.1 (15.102)

ed This addition to 15.1 is not necessary since 15.101 includes its own requirement and compliance criteria. Instead this content should be included in 15.102 as proposed for -2-39 in 61/6161/CDV.

Delete lines 437-443 and modify 15.102 as follows: 15.102 Appliances or detachable electrical parts intended to be partially or completely immersed in water for cleaning shall have adequate protection against the effects of immersion.

This requirement also applies to appliances other than stationary or any detachable electrical parts not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in the instructions.

Accepted


Instead, we believe that the intent of the splash test is to simulate water that might splash from the floor during cleaning could reach underneath the appliance and into the appliance that way. If not, there is nothing to mitigate the risks from water splashing into the appliance from






Replace lines 449 to 451 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed





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underneath in real use.


on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”


21 SA01 448 15.1.1 Paragraph 2

The apparatus shown in Figure 103 is used. The appliance is placed in normal

15.1.1 The apparatus shown in Figure 103 is used. The appliance is

See 20





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position of use 594 and adjustable feet shall be set at minimum level in accordance with the instruction for use.

placed in normal position of use 594 and adjustable feet shall be set at maximum level in accordance with the instruction for use.

22 DK06 602-604 22.101 te Existing Note 1 has been converted to normative text. However, the note is purely informative in nature and does not contain any requirements and is intended to explain the meaning of "trip free type".


Delete the sentence starting in line 602-604 and reinstate Note 1 as NOTE

or





23 DE05 637-639 22.105 te The requirement: “Thermal controls shall not be incorporated in connectors complying with the standard sheets of IEC 60320-3 or IEC 60309-2.”was not in the DC. Where does it come from?Thermal controls incorporated in connectors are not used in commercial catering equipment.The new requirement was integrated in parts -2-37, -38, -39, -48, -49, -50 but not integrated in parts 2-36, -42, -47. Why not in these parts too if the requirement is considered reasonable for commercial catering equipment?

Delete lines 637-639. See 24

24 DK07 637-638 22.105 te This content is assumed to stem from the deleted content in cl. 24.101 (line 661). However, the content in 24.101 was more restrictive than the proposed change as it applied to all connectors and not only



Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47.





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those complying with the standard sheets of 60320-3 or 60309-2 as is now proposed.


Referred to EG1 to verify these updates.

25 DE06 670-679 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted except of the following wording: “Delete ‘power’ before ‘supply cord’” In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 but with an additional paragraph (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) Text of 61/6080/DC:“Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the power supply cord.The connection to the supply wires of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.”

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage

To align part 2-38 with 2-37, 2-36 and the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 670 - 679 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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Type of comment


complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

The cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement.

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for sixth edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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26. IEC 60335-2-39: Particular requirements for commercial electric multi-purpose cooking pans 61/6161/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6284/RVCNew EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)59The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6284A/RVC




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Type of comment



Noted

2 AU01 ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1

Suggest to add the following words for clarity

Accepted; referred to EG1 for editorial





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precludes use of older part twos.This part 2 is to be used in conjunction with the latest edition of IEC 60335-1 and its amendments unless that edition precludes it; in that case, the latest edition that does not preclude it is used. It was established on the basis of the sixth edition (2020) of that standard.

review.








or alternatively:

Add DC-supplied and battery-operated

appliances to the scope and relevant requirements for battery operated appliances in cl. 11.7 and, if necessary, in B.11.1

Accepted to add a fifth dashed item after line 144 in the scope the following:





- frying pans for household use

Not accepted. The household appliances are





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(IEC 60335-2-13)cooking pans and steam cookers for household use (IEC 60335-2-15)

already excluded in the scope in line 126.

5 DE01 174-176 3.1.9 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but has been integrated only partly in the CDV.The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors”. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

Modify lines 174 - 176 to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.





See 5


It recognized that the term is already used in the existing standard but it is not known what "detachable electrical parts" actually means. Despite the bold font, the term is not defined.


Noted. Examples of detachable electrical parts are probes for measuring temperature at the core of the food being cooked or stirrers.





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Type of comment


8 US02 197-204 3.8.103, 3.8.104


Accepted

8 bis





10 DE02 246-247 7.12 ed To align the wording with the other commercial catering equipment parts the wording shall be modified.


Accepted



Unless the appliance or part is intended to be partially or completely immersed in water for cleaning, the instructions for appliances with detachable electrical parts and appliances, other than stationary appliances, shall state that the

Accepted





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Type of comment


appliance or part must not be immersed.

13 DK04 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6101A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. However, no changes have been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe 18 and so it will be required based on the part 1



14 CH02 353, 354

11.3 ed Wrong formatting. Format “accessible surfaces” in bold and italic (two times).

Accepted


Accepted










Accepted

18 DE04 408-414 15.1 ed Though 61/6081/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the clause was completely deleted. Presumably the text should have been replaced by that of Part 37, in which the note has been converted into normative text.

Modify lines 408 - 414 to read as follows:15.1 Addition: Any detachable electrical parts or appliances, other than stationary appliances, not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion for cleaning, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in water for

Not accepted.





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Type of comment


cleaning in the instructions, are also subjected to the tests of 15.102.














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Type of comment



20 SA01 419 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 19

21 DE05 501-503 19.1 ed To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the comma behind addition.

Modify lines 501 - 503 to read as follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”

Accepted

22 DE06 517-518 20.2 ed The (admittedly somewhat unclear) proposal of the DC was accepted but hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.

Modify lines 517 - 518 to read as follows:

Accepted with the following wording:





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Type of comment


“The requirement concerning moving parts of the appliance does not apply to parts necessary to implement the tilting operation such as handles or hand-wheels.This applies also to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, i.e. handles or handwheels.”

Add the following after the first paragraph in the requirement.This applies also to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, i.e. handles or handwheels.

23 US06 522 20.101 te Due to 5.21 in Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force from 20.2 of Part 1 be used.

Add the following at the end of line 522:

‘with a force of 5 N’

Accepted




or





25 DE07 613-615 22.115 te The requirement: “Thermal controls shall not be incorporated in connectors complying with the standard sheets of IEC 60320-3 or IEC 60309-2.”was not in the DC. Where does it come from?Thermal controls incorporated in connectors are not used in commercial catering equipment.






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Type of comment


The new requirement was integrated in parts -2-37, -38, -39, -48, -49, -50 but not integrated in parts 2-36, -42, -47. Why not in these parts too if the requirement is considered reasonable for commercial catering equipment?





Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47. EG1 will manage these updates.

27 DE08 646-659 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 and -38 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6081/DC:“Delete the comma in the second paragraph ‘In this case, a chord anchorage …’Delete the last sentence: ‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a

To align part 2-39 with 2-37, 2-38 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 646 - 659 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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Type of comment


flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”


28 CH05 782 Bibliography

ed Wrong format of headline. Format “Bibliography” as bold headline.

Not accepted. In the published standard it is not bolded; EG1 to verify.


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27. IEC 60335-2-41: Particular requirements for pumps 27a. 61/6208/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6269/INF MT4, Externally accessible surface temperatures Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)28The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6269A/INF




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Type of comment

Comments Proposed change Observations of the Secretariat


Noted

2 FR01 ge Support the proposal with the following comments below.

Noted


Noted

4 DK01 7, 17, 52

8.1.1 ed The definition used is not correct. The defined term is "vertical wet pit pump"

This comment also applies to line 17 and 52

Correct the defined term to read:

"vertical wet pit pump"

Accepted

5 FR02 15-24 8.1.3 te 8.1.3 doesn’t apply to pumps.It’s a redundancy of the addition for §8.1.1.

Delete the lines Accepted

6 US01 15-24 8.1.3 te Test probe 18 is not used for accessibility of visibly glowing heating elements. Only test probe 41 is applied in 8.1.3. In addition, it is not likely that the products listed would have visibly glowing heating elements.

Delete lines 15-24 See 6

7 DK02 38-38 11.8 te While the proposed text is a continuation of an existing requirement in the standard, with welcome clarifications, DKNC proposes to narrow the scope of the exemption to pumps where the media is responsible for the surface temperature of the pump. This is a common situation for

Change lines 38-39 into:

For pumps whose enclosure temperature arises from the medium being pumped, when applying Table 3, the temperature rise of the external enclosure is not measured and Table

Accepted with the following wording:For pumps whose enclosure temperature arises from the medium





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Type of comment


many pumps but not for all. 101 is not applicable. being pumped and where the pump is marked with a liquid temperature exceeding 35°C, when applying Table 3, the temperature rise of the external enclosure is not measured and Table 101 is not applicable.

8 AU01 40 te Line 40 and 41 should be reworded as in the CDV for 2-59

Delete line 40 and 41 and replace with the following

The temperature rise of handles or grips of vents and air shutters shall not exceed the value specified in Table 3 for surfaces of handles, knobs, grips and similar parts which are held for short periods only in normal use

Accepted; Refer to EG1.

9 FR03 43-45 Table 101 te/ed The two sentence “Surfaces …/… children.” of the column 2 and 3 of the table 1 deserve a clarification.

The column 3 is intended for “Surfaces of other pumps WITH instructions that indicate the pump is not to be installed or used in areas accessible to children.” And not “without”.

Correct as follows:“Surfaces of other pumps WITH instructions that indicate the pump is not to be installed or used in areas accessible to children”

See 11




WithTemperature rise limits of external







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Type of comment


11 CH03 44 11.8 Table 101 te It seems that the condition “unless they have instructions” and “without instructions” are used in the wrong way.

In the second column replace “unless they have” with “without”.

In the third column replace “without” with “with”.

Accepted with the following wording for the second column heading to clarify that the reference to instructions is only for “other pumps”.

Surfaces of pumps without instructions that indicate the pump is not to be installed or used in areas accessible to children, and surfaces of aquarium pumps, pumps for garden ponds, table fountain pumps, shower-boost pumps, swimming pool pumps.

Accepted to change the heading of the 3rd column.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for fifth edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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27b. 61/6209/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6270/INF Australia, UV radiation


The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6270A/INF




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Type of comment


1 CA01 - 7.14 - ge The CANC agrees with the intent of the proposal but would like to understand why this would not be better suited in the Part 1 since many products would be comparably affected.

AU is invited to provide more clarity on the particular reasons for addressing this concern in this Part 2 only.

Noted. During the discussion in the meeting it was agreed that the proposal will be limited to this Part 2. After application within this Part 2 it will be evaluated whether the requirements should be proposed for the Part 1.

2 FR01 ge The proposal is interesting to keep the ligible name-plate for pumps used outdoors. However, it should directly refer to IEC 60068-2-5 which simulates solar radiation +/- weathering.We therefore make the following comments.

This Australian proposal comes from the national deviation on AS/NZS 60335.2.41.

Noted

3 NO01 With the problems of the ISO 4892-tests of Annex T in mind, we are not in favour of introducing another ISO 4892-test in our standards.If the legibility of markings has been a problem, we would rather support that such marking shall be required to be “moulded in, engraved or stamped and either raised above or have a depth below the surface of at least 0,25 mm”.In addition, there are many other part 2

Require the marking to be “moulded in, engraved or stamped and either raised above or have a depth below the surface of at least 0,25 mm”.

Not accepted





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Type of comment


standards in the 60335-series which also cover appliances for outdoor use.

4 US01 Introduction

ge We have had UV exposure testing for marking and labelling systems in the US for many years. Please add the following “In some countries” note

7.14 Marking and labelling systems complying with UL 969 for outdoor use meet the UV exposure compliance criteria. (USA)

Accepted

5 DK01 3-19 7.14 ge DKNC supports the intention of the proposal of ensuring markings are UV resistant where needed. However, we do have two fundamental comments:

The subject is relevant for part 1 instead of a part 2. Many appliances can be used outside and can be exposed to daylight. It seems it’s a topic not only for pumps. General requirements should be put in part 1, and more details on which product to test can be put in part 2s where relevant.

The requirements should be based on the ISO 16474 (Paints and varnishes – Methods of exposure to laboratory light sources) and not the ISO 4892 (Plastics – Methods of exposure to laboratory light sources) series used in the proposal and Annex T. Properties of paint and varnish is more relevant to the durability of the markings than the properties of plastics. The standards are relatively similar in structure and content.

Do a 2DC with the following features:

Proposal for part 1

Based on the ISO 16474 series.

See 1

See 1

6 DK02 6 7.14 te Pumps for outdoor use are not always used in daylight. Only products likely to be exposed to daylight for substantial periods should be in scope. Wastewater pumps and similar are often used in pits and submersed in dirty water which will absorb any UV light.

Change line 6 into:

Legibility of markings on pumps intended for outdoor use in daylight shall not be degraded by UV radiation.

Accepted





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7 FR02 6 7.14 te The meaning: “…shall not be degraded…” deserves a clarification. Is partial erasure acceptable as long as the data remains legible? (we mean a decrease in contrast or intensity of the markings).

Proposal: replace the sentence of the line 6 as follows: “The markings on pumps intended for outdoor shall be remained ligible even if it may occur a fading of those.”

Not accepted; covered by Part 1.

8 DK03 7-8 7.14 te Laser engraving is often used on plastics and metal to provide the needed contrast. However, this type of marking is not vulnerable to UV light and should be exempt from the testing requirement even if there is not a difference in level of 0.25 mm.

Change line 7-8 into:

This requirement does not apply to markings that are moulded in, engraved, or stamped and either raised above or have a depth below the surface of at least 0,25 mm, and laser engraved markings.

Accepted

9 US02 10 7.14 te Only one sample is subjected to the rubbing test in 7.14. One sample is sufficient to determine the suitability of a marking exposed to UV.

Change ‘Ten samples’ to ‘One sample’ and correct the remaining content editorially for a single sample. See US3 Annex.

See 12

10 DK04 10-11 7.14 te Further clarity on the requirements is needed since the reference to ISO 4892-4 is un-specific. The following aspects of ISO 4892-4 (or ISO 16474-4) should not be included: Inter comparison of test chambers, light sources other than day light, assessment of test results, reporting of results.

Where needed, those aspects are already covered by IEC 60335-1.

The exclusions can be implemented by excluding the following clauses of ISO 4892-4:

3.4, 3.5, 4.1.3, 4.1.4, 4.7, 7.4, 8

Or by adding an annex similar to Annex T which modifies ISO 4892-4.

The same approach can be used if ISO 16474-4 is used.

See 12

11 FR03 10-19 7.14 te IEC 60721 series-describes classification of environmental conditions such as IEC 60721-3-4 on “classification of groups of environmental parameters and their severities - Stationary use at non-weatherprotected locations”.These standards refer to the IEC 60068

Proposal: rewrite the test procedure according to IEC 60068-2-5. Remove the reference to the ISO 4892-4.Replace the lines 10-11 and 14-19 as follows:“Ten samples of the markings are to be exposed for 360 h to xenon arc

See 12





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series for testing.To assess the markings for pumps intended to use outdoor, the IEC 60068-2-5 “tests - Test S : simulated solar radiation at ground level and guidance for solar radiation testing and weathering” is relevant. Even if the description of the test is nearer to the IEC 60068-2-5, it should be better directly to refer it.The IEC 60068-2-5 use xenon arc lamp.The chamber temperature is higher than the test described inside IEC 60068-2-5, Table 5. We suppose 45°C is maybe specific to Australian area. So, we suggest to keep 38°C.

720 h for this test is long (30 days). No clues are mentioned in the rational to justify it. The test is only on a frequency (340 nm, UV A scope). It could be reduced at 360 h for instance by using the filtered broadband (300 up to 400 nm, for a complete UV B [6%] & UV A [94%] scope).

lamp, in accordance with IEC 60068-2-5, Table 5, procedure Sb1 (exposure period: 102 min dry, 18 min water spray), with broadband (300 up to 400 nm), black panel temperature (63+/-3 °C), chamber temperature (38+/-3 °C), relative humidity (50 +/- 10 %).”Keep the lines 12 and 13.

12 US03 10-19 7.14 te Carbon arc testing is an older technology that has been replaced by xenon arc exposure in many labs. The xenon arc exposure and carbon-arc should be allowed as alternative methods. The suggested xenon-arc exposure method has been used in the US and Canada for many years.

Modify the compliance criteria as shown in US3 Annex.

Accepted with the following wording: The exposure shall be via one of the following methods which are considered to be equivalent: And then to include the text of the US03 Annex

13 DK05 12 7.14 ed "Cylinder" is not mentioned in ISO 4892-1 or -4.

Change "cylinder" to "test chamber" See 12





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14 DK06 16 7.14 ed ISO 4892-4 refers to filter types, the relevant one being the daylight filter Type 1. There is no mentioning of inner or outer optical filters in ISO 4892-1, therefore this reference should be deleted.

Change the line into:

The apparatus shall operate with an open-flame sunshine carbon-arc lamp, borosilicate glass daylight filter Type 1.

Accepted

US3 Annex (61/6209/DC) 7.14 Addition:

Ten samples of the markings are to be exposed for 720 h to open-flame sunshine carbon-arc, in accordance with ISO 4892-4. For markings on pumps intended for outdoor use, the test sample is mounted on the inside of the cylinder in the ultraviolet light apparatus perpendicular to the light source and in such a way that the sample does not touch each other. There shall be continuous exposure to light and intermittent exposure to water spray. The cycle shall consist of 102 min without water spray and 18 min with water spray. The exposure shall be via one of the following methods:

- The sample is exposed for 750 h to xenon-arc, method A, in accordance with ISO 4892-2. The apparatus shall operate with a water-cooled xenon-arc lamp, borosilicate glass inner and outer optical filters, a spectral irradiance of 0,35 W/m2/nm at 340 nm and a black panel temperature of (63 ± 3) °C.

- The sample is exposed for 720 h to open-flame sunshine carbon-arc in accordance with ISO 4892-4. The apparatus shall operate with an open-flame sunshine carbon-arc lamp, borosilicate glass Type 1, inner and outer optical filters, a spectral irradiance of 0,35 W/m2/nm at 340 nm and a black panel temperature of (63 ± 3) ºC. The temperature of the chamber shall be (45 ± 3) ºC. The relative humidity in the chamber shall be (50 ± 5) %.

DECISION: Proceed to 2DC to be prepared by EG1 for discussion at the next meeting of TC 61

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Noted

2 FR01 ge The proposal deserves a serious improvement to get a complete acceptation for all manufacturers and users.

Delete the proposal or change as follows in the comments below.

Not accepted

3 FR02 4-5 te/ed The 2nd part of the sentence of the dash (“where H specifies the value of the minimum total head”) doesn’t bring any clarification and repeats the same meaning of the 1st part of the sentence. It is not useful, and it could bring a confusion on ‘H’: is it Hmin or H which is really specified?

Proposal, the sentence should be written as follows:“– Hmin the minimum total head, in metres, if greater than zero;”

Accepted

4 FR03 9 7.6 te It has not had any safety misunderstanding about it until now. It is already well known by all manufacturers and users of submersible pumps. It is also used for Commercial and Industrial pumps which are not under IEC 60335-2-41.The current symbol might be improved.So, to avoid any future confusion, to meet the existing symbols' knowledge (related to ISO 7000, already used inside 60335 series) and to keep a pragmatic solution for application, we require to use the attached symbol.Indeed, it will be more pragmatic to write the value under the symbol than in the middle of symbol when the nameplates are (pre-)defined. There is a real risk that the value is written not at the right place and can create any issue for a right reading. Herewith examples:

Proposal for improving the depth symbol as follows:

Addition of water symbol: 0536 – ISO 7000Improvement of the present symbol by the significant required symbol for a level: 0159 – ISO 7000, here “maximum operating depth where X specifies the value”

Not accepted. There is no need to have a new non-harmonized symbol.It was also noted that all the other NCs at the meeting consider the proposed new symbol is clear. In addition, it was agreed to add a note to 7.6 as follows: Note: Due to construction reasons it is acceptable that the indication of the maximum operating depth in metres may be slightly displaced on the left or right side with reference to the arrows.





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Refer to EG1 for the wording of the Note.

5 FR04 10-11 7.12 te If the symbol is clear it has not needed to explain.7.6 is sufficient, see the previous comment.

Delete the proposal. Not accepted. In particular it was considered that it may be helpful for the symbol to also be provided in the instructions in situations where the value for the maximum operating depth in metres in the symbol is slightly displaced with reference to the arrows in the symbol. See the examples in the first and fourth illustrations in the comment in row 4.

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for the fifth edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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28. IEC 60335-2-42: Particular requirements for commercial electric forced convection ovens, steam cookers and steam-convection ovens 61/6162/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6285/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)60The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6285A/RVC





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Noted



This part 2 is to be used in conjunction with the latest edition of IEC 60335-1 and its amendments unless that edition precludes it; in that case, the latest edition that does not preclude it is used. It was established on the basis of the sixth edition (2020) of that standard.


3 DE01 24-25 Foreword ed Reference to wrong IEC standard. Modify lines 24 - 25 to read as follows:This part 2 supplements or modifies the corresponding clauses in IEC 60335-1, so as to convert that publication into the IEC standard: Safety requirements for spin extractors Safety requirements for commercial electric forced convection ovens, steam cookers and steam-convection ovens.

Accepted





or alternatively:









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- Stationary convection ovens and steam convection ovens for household use (IEC 60335-2-6)

- portable cooking appliances for household use (IEC 60335-2-9)

portable steam cookers for household use (IEC 60335-2-15)


6 US02 210 3.1.9 ed A Note added in the Part 2 to an existing term in the Part 1 should be Note 101 to entry

Note 101 to entry Accepted

7 DE02 216-218 3.1.9 ed 1. To align the wording with the other commercial catering equipment parts delete the comma after “use”.

2. The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other commercial catering equipment parts. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in

Modify lines 216 - 218 to read as follows:In all the above cases, motors incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use, taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence

Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the





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the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

is included after “motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

8 US03 263-270 3.8.103, 3.8.104

ed These should be relocated to 3.6 Renumber these as 3.6.103 and 3.6.104

Accepted

8 bis




9 JP01 305 7.6 te For a warning sign for Risk of scalding, The symbol in Figure 102 of the existing Part 2-42 needs to be kept by using the yellow triangle.

Change as follows. (Add the yellow triangle to the symbol and add the underlined NOTE taking into account clause 7.6 of Part 2-105.)

[symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06)] Risk of scalding

NOTE The “Risk of scalding” symbol incorporates symbol IEC 60417-6418


NOTE 101 The “Risk of scalding” symbol incorporates symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) combined with the warning sign of ISO 3864-1.





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(2020-06) combined with the warning sign of ISO 3864-1.

10 US04 305 7.6 ed Caution and Risk should be lower case caution, hot surfacerisk of scalding

Accepted


Modify lines 312 - 313 to read as follows:“If any of symbols IEC 60417-5021 (2002-10), IEC 60417-5041 (2002-10) or IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) are marked on the appliance, its meaning shall be explained.”

Accepted

12 DE04 314-331 7.12 te The Japanese proposal 61/5780 was rejected in Shanghai. The deletion of the lines 320 to 322 isn’t covered by the decision made in Shanghai (see Daily report compilation Shanghai V2 [Doc.: 61(Shanghai/Secretariat)69 V2; No. 17]. The modification by the editorial group is a technical one not covered by the decisions in Shanghai and the web-meetings in 2020.The following modifications are considered problematic as they change the meaning of the requirement:Line 316:The note is necessary because the trolley is placed inside the application and gets so hot that a coloured plastic-label will melt. The reduced size is a concession to the frame width of the trolley.Lines 317-319:All shelves positioned at levels higher than 1,6 m above the floor shall be permanently marked with the symbol. With the new text in the CDV nobody will mark the appliance. In addition the

Undo all modifications made by the editorial group but replacing the figure by the symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06).or modify as follows:Line 316: undelete the note

Lines 317-319:“The appliance and trolley intended to be loaded with containers with liquids or cooking goods which becomes fluid by heating in shelves positioned at levels higher than 1,6 m above the floor shall be permanently marked with symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06).”

Lines 323-324: delete lines 323-324

Lines 325-327: “If symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) is required to be marked in 7.1 but the

Accepted with the following modifications (see also 9):

Line 316: keep the note

Lines 317-319:“The appliance and trolley intended to be loaded with shelves positioned at levels higher than 1,6 m above the floor shall be permanently marked with symbol “Risk of scalding””

Delete lines 323-324

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intended use might change over the duration of use.Lines 323-324:The sentence “If appliances are intended to be installed less than 1,6 m above the floor, the instructions shall include the statement to show this intention.” doesn’t make sense at all.This sentence was taken from the rejected Japanese proposal. The marking with the symbol is not related to the level where the appliance is installed but if there are shelves positioned at levels higher than 1,6 m above the floor after installation.

appliance is not marked, the label marked with the symbol shall be supplied with the appliance and the instructions shall state that the label shall be affixed on the front surface after the installation at a height of 1,60 m above the floor.”

to be marked in 7.1 but if the appliance is not marked, the label with the symbol shall be supplied with the appliance and the instructions shall state that the label shall be affixed on the front surface after the installation at a height of 1,60 m above the floor.”

13 CH02 334 7.12 ed As exception, parts of text required by 7.12 to be provided in the instructions need not to be formatted in bold, even when being defined terms (in general, users of appliances do not have access to standards, hence they do not know the meaning of formatting of words).

Format “cooking compartment” in roman, not in bold.

Refer to EG1

14 US05 334, 336-338

7.12 ed Indent the instruction text Indent lines 334 and 336-338 Accepted

15 DE05 after 340

7.12 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.

Add the following text after line 340:“If the supports of devices are formed in L-shape, the instructions shall draw the attention of the user on the fact that the device is not suitable for the use with containers which are intended for cooking processes which can generate or use liquids.”

Accepted to be reviewed editorially by EG1

16 DK02 7.12 te The text regarding L-shaped supports proposed in 61/6082/DC has not been implemented. This text is important in support of the added requirement in 21.101 (line 642)

Add the following text after line 340:

"When the supports of devices are formed in L-shape, the instructions shall draw the attention of the user on the fact that the device is not suitable for the use with containers which are

See 15





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intended for cooking processes which can generate or use liquids."

17 DE06 366 7.14 te The requirement: “The height of symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) shall be at least 30 mm.” was not in the DC. It stands in contradiction to the indispensable note in line 316.

Delete line 366 or limit the requirement as follows:“The height of symbol IEC 60417-6418 (2020-06) shall be at least 30 mm. This does not apply to the symbol on the trolley.”

Not accepted

18 JP02 366 7.14 te The height of the triangle should be specified as based on JP1.

Change the text as follows.

The height of the triangle of the “Risk of scalding” symbol shall be at least 30 mm.

Accepted with the following wording:The height of symbol “Risk of scalding” shall be at least 30 mm.NOTE The warning sign at the trolley can be etched or stamped; in this case the size can be reduced.





Accepted




with

Not accepted.The title is consistent with other Part 2 standards





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and with the format of Tables 3 and 9




Accepted

23 DK04 486-492 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK03 in 61/6102A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g., IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.








Replace lines 487 to 490 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned





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underneath the appliance.”


24 SA01 486 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 23

25 DE08 544-546 19.1 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted but has only partly been integrated in the CDV.To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the comma behind addition.

Modify lines 544 - 546 to read as follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the

Accepted





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manufacturer’s instructions.”

26 DE09 566-577 19.7 The proposal of the DC “Delete the last sentence (shifted to 19.13):” was accepted without comments in the web meetings 2020.This has been done by the editorial group but furthermore they have modified the whole clause.The modification does not make clear which paragraph of Part 1 is to be modified.

Modify lines 566-577 as follows:“Instead of the text preceding the table, the following applies.Moving parts of motor and fan assemblies are locked and the appliance is operated, starting from room temperature, under normal operation, at rated voltage or at the upper limit of the rated voltage range, as long as is necessary to establish steady conditions or, if a timer is provided, for the maximum period allowed by the timer.If an appliance has more than one motor, the test is carried out for each motor separately.Appliances incorporating motors and having capacitors in the circuit of an auxiliary winding, are operated with the rotor locked, the capacitors being open-circuited one at a time. The test is repeated with the capacitors short-circuited one at a time, unless they are of class S2 or S3 of IEC 60252-1:2010 including IEC 60252-1:2010/AMD1:2013.NOTE 1 This test is carried out with the rotor locked since some motors can start thus giving rise to inconsistent results.”

Accepted with modification to lines 566 to 578:

Instead of the text preceding the table, the following applies.

Moving parts of motor and fan assemblies are locked and the appliance is operated, starting from room temperature, under normal operation, at rated voltage or at the upper limit of the rated voltage range, as long as is necessary to establish steady conditions or, if a timer is provided, for the maximum period allowed by the timer.

If an appliance has more than one motor, the test is carried out for each motor separately.

Alternative tests for





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protected motor units are given in Annex D

Appliances incorporating motors and having capacitors in the circuit of an auxiliary winding, are operated with the rotor locked, the capacitors being open-circuited one at a time. The test is repeated with the capacitors short-circuited one at a time, unless they are of class S2 or S3 of IEC 60252-1:2010 including IEC 60252-1:2010/AMD1:2013.NOTE 101 This test is carried out with the rotor locked since some motors can start thus giving rise to inconsistent results.

27 DE10 after 580

19.13 ed The proposal of the DC “Delete the last sentence (shifted to 19.13):” was accepted without comments in the web meetings 2020 but not integrated in the CDV.

Insert the following text after line 580:“19.13 Addition: During the test, the temperature of the windings shall not exceed the values shown in Table 8.”

Accepted

28 DE11 591-595 20.1 ed The proposal of the DC Rename 22.114 - 22.117 back to Accepted





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“Delete the second and third paragraph (requirement shifted to 22.114).” was discussed and accepted in the web meetings 2020 (DKNC-comment-no. 12) but is not correctly integrated in the CDV. The reason was a 2nd comment (DKNC-comment-no. 13) on the same clause in the Compilation of Comments 61/6102/INF causing some confusion.

22.115 - 22.118. and thenshift the text in lines 591-595:“Shelf trolleys are subjected to the following test.The trolley, fully loaded in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions, is placed on a rigid plane coated with aluminum oxide paper (grain size 80) and inclined at 10° to the horizontal. The braking mechanism is applied and the trolley shall not move by more than 100 mm. Any spillage of liquid is ignored”to 22.114 (line 693)

29 US06 665 22.7 ed Editorial correction per 61/6082/DC Add ‘more than’ before 20 % Accepted




or





31 DE12 713 22.110 ed The proposal of the DC “Modify the first sentence as follows:Pressurized parts of appliances shall be capable of withstanding the rated pressure.” was accepted without comments in the web meetings 2020 but not integrated in the CDV.

Modify line 713 as follows:“Pressurized parts of appliances shall be capable of withstanding the rated pressure.”

Accepted





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32 DK06 713 22.110 ed The agreed upon text of 61/6082/DC has not been implemented


"Pressurized parts of appliances shall be capable of withstanding the rated pressure."

See 31

33 US07 724 22.111 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used here.

Add the following after ‘test probe B’ in line 724:


Accepted

34 US08 741-742 744-745


Add the following at the end of lines 742 and 745:


Accepted to be added at the end of line 742




Accepted

36 DE13 798-811 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6082/DC:“Delete the comma in the second paragraph ‘In this case, a chord anchorage …’

To align part 2-42 with 2-37, 2-38, 2-39 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 798 - 811 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of

Accepted





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Delete the last sentence: ‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”


a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”



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30. IEC 60335-2-47: Particular requirements for commercial electric boiling pans 61/6164/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6286/RVC New Edition Also taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)61The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6286A/RVC




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3 CH02 11 FOREWORD



Accepted

4 NO01 12 Foreword ed Spelling error Change from 20.102 to 20.101 Accepted

5 DK01 ge The scope replaces the scope in the part 1. Therefore DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances are excluded from the scope. While appliances in the scope of this standard are unlikely to be battery-operated, consistency in the



Accepted to add a third dashed item after line 142 in the scope the following:

- battery-operated





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implementation of battery related requirements is lacking.





or alternatively:


appliances



Add the following dashed item under line 138:appliances for heating liquids for household use (IEC 60335-2-15)


7 DE01 171-173 3.1.9 ed 1. To align the wording in all parts 2 (for commercial catering equipment) the comma behind “use” should be deleted in this part too.

2. The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other commercial catering equipment parts. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.

Modify lines 171 - 173 to read as follows:“Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use, taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.”Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, 47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is

Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are operated under the





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These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

8 US02 208-215 3.8.103, 3.8.104


Accepted

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12 DK02 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6103A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. However, no changes have been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe 18 and so it will be required based on the part-1




Accepted








Instead, we believe that the intent of the splash test is to simulate water that might splash from the floor during cleaning could reach underneath the appliance and into the appliance that way. If not, there is






Replace lines 419 to 421 with the following: “For appliances normally





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nothing to mitigate the risks from water splashing into the appliance from underneath in real use.


used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”






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16 SA01 418 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



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17 DE04 517-518 20.2 ed The (admittedly somewhat unclear) proposal of the DC was accepted but hasn’t been integrated in the CDV.

Modify lines 517 - 518 to read as follows:“The requirement for moving parts of appliances does not apply to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, such as handles or hand-wheels.This applies also to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, i.e. handles or handwheels.”

Accepted with the following wording:Add the following after the first paragraph in the requirement.This applies also to parts necessary to perform the tilting movement, i.e. handles or handwheels.

18 US05 522 20.101 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used here.

Add the following at the end of line 522:


Accepted




or









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Type of comment


20 CH04 604 22.113 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 604 and the text in line 605 are related as “and” or “or”.

For improved clarity, add “or” after the second comma.

Accepted as follows:

In lines 604 and 605 replace , with ;

21 US06 607, 610




Accepted




Accepted

23 DE05 670-680 25.3 te The proposal of the DC was accepted. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for the other commercial catering equipment parts but in some cases with an additional paragraph (see for e.g. DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV)Text of 61/6083/DC:“Remove the last sentence: ‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently

To align part 2-39 with 2-36, 2-37 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 646 - 659 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state

Accepted





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connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

24 CH05 693 27.2 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 692 - 693 and the text in line 694 - 695 are related as “and” or “or”.

For improved clarity, add “and” after the semicolon.

Not accepted

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for fifth edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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31. IEC 60335-2-48: Particular requirements for commercial electric grillers and toasters 61/6165/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6287/RVC


New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/JPNC)48, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)62The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6287A/RVC




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Type of comment



Noted





3 CH02 13 FOREWORD

ed Wrong punctuation. At the end of the fifth dashed item replace the semicolon with a full stop.

Accepted



This is confirmed by the replacement in of part 1 requirements in11.7 which effectively exclude the



or alternatively:


Accepted to add a sixth dashed item after line 154 in the scope the following:







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Type of comment


heating test for appliances containing batteries.



5 JP01 123 Clause 1 ge The requirements for the appliances open to the public should not be specified in household appliance standards, they should be specified in commercial appliance standards just simply added probe 18 and they are distinguished in the instruction. Otherwise, we will take more difficult and very complex ways with the following concerns.

Now, TC61 adapt the way to move the requirements for open to the public in commercial appliances standards such as -2-48(toasters), -2-49(hot cupboards) and -2-50(bains-marie) to the household appliances standards, because Part 1; ed.6 adapt the test probe 18. And such appliances open to the public are assumed to be used mainly in hotel buffets.However, we mistakenly forget the differences between commercial and household appliances standards other than test probe 18. The number of loads and heating periods are different in clause 10, 11 and other clauses, for instance between -2-48 and -2-9. If the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets are tested accordance with -2-9,

Keep the current published sentence as is.

Change to: This International Standard deals with the safety of electrically operated commercial grillers and toasters not intended for household and similar use, their rated voltage being not more than 250 V for single-phase appliances connected between one phase and neutral, and 480 V for other appliances.

Not acceptedIn line (128) is clearly excluded the household intended use:“These appliances are not intended for household and similar purposes”

For other considerations see 7





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we would evaluate such appliances with some weaker requirements. Because these appliances in hotel buffets are used by much more clients for longer periods than the other appliances normally specified in -2-9. In this case, these additional requirements have to be added in -2-9 specified only for the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets. (It means that the appliances used in open to the public should be also additionally distinguished in the instruction to the normal household appliances.) These problems are not only for -2-48, -2-49 and -2-50, but also -2-90(microwave ovens). In the case of -2-90, the number of door endurance test and door abuse tests are also different to the household standard; -2-25. And these appliances are not only used in hotel buffets, but also convenience stores and department stores as used in open to the public. We have to bring many requirements from -2-90 to -2-25 for the appliance open to the public. We believe that the other commercial standards would be having same problems. Finally, we emphasize an area open to the public in clause 8.1.1 and 20.2 of Part 1: ed.6 is do considered for commercial use. Then we should also modify the following current sentence of Part 1 when we take this way.Test probe 18 is not applied to appliances for commercial use unless they are intended to be installed in an area open to the public.

6 CH03 126 1 ed Replace “Rotary or continuous grillers Replace “Rotary or continuous Accepted





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and toasters” with “Rotary or continuous grillers or toasters”, otherwise the term defined in 3.5.103 is never used throughout the standard.

grillers and toasters” with “Rotary or continuous grillers or toasters”.

7 JP02 129 Clause 1 See JP1 Remove “not open to the public”.Change to: These appliances are not intended for household and similar purposes. They are used for commercial processing of food in areas not open to the public, for example in kitchens of restaurants, canteens, hospitals and in commercial enterprises such as bakeries and butcheries.

The following modifications are proposed to make the scope and the text consistent:

(line 128)These appliances are not intended for household and similar purposes. They are used for commercial processing of food, also in areas open to the public, for example in kitchens of restaurants, canteens, hospitals and in commercial enterprises such as bakeries and butcheries.

(line 149):grills, toasters and similar portable cooking appliances for household use covered by IEC 60335-2-9 and used in the following environments by laymen:





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(after line 208)3.8 Definitions relating to miscellaneous matters3.8.104area open to the publicarea in which the general public, including children, may have accessNote 1 to entry: Examples are canteens and self-service restaurants.

7.12 Addition

The manufacturer shall declare that the appliance is also intended to be used in an area open to thepublic or, if the appliance is not suitable for use in an area open to the public, the instruction shall include the substance of the following warning:





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CAUTION This appliance shall not be installed where the public has access.

11.8 Addition:

For appliances intended to be installed in areas open to the public, the temperature shall not exceed the values shown in Table 101 <reported in the next row>Accepted in principle, but the Table to be aligned to the latest version from MT4 and footnote b to be applied only for appliances and parts situated more than 850 mm above the floor after installation. In addition, the title of the Table will be modified as follows: Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfaces for appliances intended to be installed in





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areas open to the publicunder normal operating conditions.As a consequence, clause 7 shall be aligned with the addition of the symbol and warning concerning hot surfaces.





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Table 101 – Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfaces under normal operating conditions

Surface

Temperature rise of external accessible surfacesa

KAppliances and parts situated not more

than 850 mm above the floor after installation b

Appliances and parts situated more than 850 mm above the floor after

installation b

Bare metalCoated metal c

Glass and ceramicPlastic and plastic coating 0,4 mm d, e

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a The following surfaces or elements shall not be taken into consideration:– hot functional surfaces;

– handles or control knobs including keypads, keyboards and the like: part of the equipment that a user needs to touch to operate or adjust the equipment. The equipment has to be installed according to the manufacturer’s instructions;

– surfaces within 5 mm of touch controls regardless of their shape;

– surfaces within 25 mm of the outline of the hot functional surfaces;

– underside surfaces that are not accessible to a 75 mm diameter probe having a hemispherical end;

– lids and covers.b When the required values are not met, the maximum temperature rise shall not be higher than two times the

values indicated.c Metal is considered coated when a coating having a minimum thickness of 90 m made by enamel, powder or

non-substantially plastic coating is used.d The temperature rise limit of plastic also applies for plastic material having a metal finish of thickness less than

0,1 mm.e When the thickness of the plastic coating does not exceed 0,4 mm, the temperature rise limits of the coated

metal or of glass and ceramic material apply.

8 US01 149 1 ed Suggest adding household use in this dashed item

grills, toasters and similar appliances for household use or use in the following environments (IEC60335-2-9):

See 7

9 US02 173 3.1.4 ed A part 2 note to a Part 1 term should be Note 101 to entry Accepted





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Note 101 to entry

10 DE01 185-186 3.1.9 ed The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other commercial catering equipment parts. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.



11 US03 201-208 3.8.102, 3.8.103


Accepted




Accepted

14 DE03 253-258 7.12 ed These lines were a proposal of AUNC and have been agreed in the TC61 web-

Modify lines 253-258 as follows: Accepted with the





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meeting to be integrated in the standard. But the wording should be modified that it is clearer that the appliance shouldn’t be used by laymen.

“The instructions shall include the substance of the following: This appliance is not intended to be used by laymen in household and similar applications such as: – staff kitchen areas in shops, offices and other working environments; – farm houses; – by clients in hotels, motels and other residential type environments; – bed and breakfast type environments.”

following wording:

The instructions shall include the substance of the following: This appliance is not intended to be used by laymen in household and similar applications such as: – staff kitchen areas in shops, offices and other working environments; – farm houses; – in hotels, motels and other residential type environments; – bed and breakfast type environments.

15 JP03 258-259 7.12 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after sixth sentence.The instructions shall include the substance if this appliance can be used in the areas open to the public.

See 7


17 DK02 8 & 20.2 te According to 61/6104A/INF, it was decided that test probe 18 shall not apply to appliances covered by this standard. However, no changes have been made in cl. 8 and in cl. 20.2 to exclude test probe 18 and so it will be required based on the part-1



18 JP04 315-316 8.1.1 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after first sentence.

See 7





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Type of comment


Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

19 US06 320 8.101 ed This is now covered by 5.21 of Part 1 Delete ‘The probe is applied without appreciable force.’

Accepted


Accepted


Replace“Temperature rise of external

accessible surfaces b”with“Temperature rise limits of external

accessible surfaces b”

See 7




Accepted


Instead, we believe that the intent of the splash test is to simulate water that might splash from the floor during cleaning could reach underneath the appliance and into






Replace lines 404 to 407 with the following: “For





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the appliance that way. If not, there is nothing to mitigate the risks from water splashing into the appliance from underneath in real use.


appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

Replace the text in line 408 to 411: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the





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Type of comment


appliance.”

24 SA01 403 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 23

25 JP05 456-457 20.2 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after Clause 20.1.

Clause 20.2: Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

See 7

26 US07 462 21 ed Should this be for 21.1? 21.1 Addition Accepted

27 US09 465-466, 579

21, 29.3 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is noted that test probe 41 is applied without appreciable force per 8.1.3 of Part 1 and Table 1 of IEC 61032. Should test probe B and test probe 41 be applied without appreciable force?

If yes, no changes is needed

Verify that the force specified in 5.21 is suitable or if a greater force should be specified.

Noted; the force defined in 5.21 of 1N was confirmed.




or









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Type of comment


29 CH06 474 22.101 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the last sentence.

Add a full stop at the end of the last sentence.

Accepted

30 DE05 474 22.101 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the last sentence

Add a full stop at the end of the line. See 29

31 CH07 486 22.101 ed Use right formatting. Add new line for 22.102 at the end of clause 22.101.

Accepted

32 DE06 486 22.101 ed A line feed is missing before the clause 22.102

Add a line feed before the clause 22.102.

See 31

33 US08 486 22.102 ed Insert line break 22.102 should start on a new line See 31

34 DK05 22.102 ed The proposed and agreed upon change to cl. 22.102 has not been implemented in this proposal.


"22.102 Lights, switches or push-buttons for the indication of danger, alarm or similar situations shall only be coloured red."

See 31


Delete 22.104 See 36

36 DK06 495-496 22.104 te This content is assumed to stem from the deleted content in cl. 24.101 (line 516). However, the content in 24.101 was more restrictive than the proposed change as it


"22.104 Thermal controls shall not be

Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47. EG1





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Type of comment


applied to all connectors and not only those complying with the standard sheets of 60320-3 or 60309-2 as is now proposed.


incorporated in connectors" will manage these updates.

37 DE08 525-532 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for the other commercial catering equipment parts That was done also for part -2-37 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6084/DC:“Delete the comma (,) in the second paragraph after the word ‘case’ . Remove the last sentence:‘Compliance is checked by inspection’ “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed. Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and

To align part 2-48 with 2-36, 2-37 and the other commercial catering equipment parts modify lines 525 - 532 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Accepted





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Type of comment


type of the supply cord to be used.”Lines 527 - 530 are very similar to the existing lines 521 - 524 in the current standard. In lines 527 - 530 the cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement. The meaning of the text has been twisted.

38 CH08 546, 547

27.2 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 545 - 546 and the text in line 547 are related as “and” or “or”.Wrong formatting.

For improved clarity, add “and” after each comma.In line 547, replace “mm2” with “mm2”.

Accepted to add semicolon at end of line 546 and accepted to correct in line 547 as follows: “mm2; and”


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32. IEC 60335-2-49: Particular requirements for commercial electric appliances for keeping food and crockery warm 61/6166/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6288/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/JPNC)48, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)63The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6288A/RVC




(e.g. Table 1)

Type of comment



Noted





(e.g. Table 1)

Type of comment






3 CH02 21 FOREWORD



Accepted







or alternatively:


Accepted to add a ninth dashed item after line 169 in the scope the following:







(e.g. Table 1)

Type of comment




Now, TC61 adapt the way to move the requirements for open to the public in commercial appliances standards such as -2-48(toasters), -2-49(hot cupboards) and -2-50(bains-marie) to the household appliances standards, because Part 1; ed.6 adapt the test probe 18. And such appliances open to the public are assumed to be used mainly in hotel buffets.However, we mistakenly forget the differences between commercial and household appliances standards other than test probe 18. The number of loads and heating periods are different in clause 10, 11 and other clauses, for instance between -2-48 and -2-9. If the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets are tested accordance with -2-9, we would evaluate such appliances with some weaker requirements. Because these appliances in hotel buffets are used by much more clients for longer periods than the other appliances normally


Change to: This International Standard deals with the safety of electrically operated commercial grillers and toasters not intended for household and similar use, their rated voltage being not more than 250 V for single-phase appliances connected between one phase and neutral, and 480 V for other appliances.







(e.g. Table 1)

Type of comment


specified in -2-9. In this case, these additional requirements have to be added in -2-9 specified only for the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets. (It means that the appliances used in open to the public should be also additionally distinguished in the instruction to the normal household appliances.) These problems are not only for -2-48, -2-49 and -2-50, but also -2-90(microwave ovens). In the case of -2-90, the number of door endurance test and door abuse tests are also different to the household standard; -2-25. And these appliances are not only used in hotel buffets, but also convenience stores and department stores as used in open to the public. We have to bring many requirements from -2-90 to -2-25 for the appliance open to the public. We believe that the other commercial standards would be having same problems. Finally, we emphasize an area open to the public in clause 8.1.1 and 20.2 of Part 1: ed.6 is do considered for commercial use. Then we should also modify the following current sentence of Part 1 when we take this way.

Test probe 18 is not applied to appliances for commercial use unless they are intended to be installed in an area open to the public.

6 DK02 137 1 te The specification that these appliances are used in areas not open to the public is not correct. For example, crockery dispensers are often used in canteens and buffet-restaurants at self-service counters and placed in the public area of

Modify the scope to indicate that appliances may be used in areas open to the public.

Please refer the draft standard back to






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Type of comment


the restaurant or canteen. Also heated display cases and heated tables are often used in such locations.As these products are used in public areas, this will include children at all ages, elderly, and people with special needs. The draft standard does not take this into account e.g., it allows a temperature rise of 25 K in note b) in table 101. Furthermore, according to 61/6105A/INF the use of probe 18 was decided not to be relevant. Consequently, the standard does not give the sufficient level of safety to the consumers mentioned above.

DK NC propose to transfer the proposal for discussion in MT4 for relevant modifications including the possible need to also include test probe 19.

MT4 to solve the problem with the surface temperatures and the aspect of test probes


(line 165):Warming plates and similar appliances for household use covered by IEC 60335-2-12 and used in the following environments by laymen:

(after line 267)3.8 Definitions relating to miscellaneous matters3.8.101area open to the publicarea in which the





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general public, including children, may have accessNote 1 to entry: Examples are canteens and self-service restaurants.

7.12 Addition

The manufacturer shall declare that the appliance is also intended to be used in an area open to thepublic or, if the appliance is not suitable for use in an area open to the public, the instruction shall include the substance of the following warning:


11.8 Addition:

For appliances





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intended to be installed in areas open to the public, the temperature shall not exceed the values shown in Table 101 <reported in the next row>Accepted in principle, but the Table to be aligned to the latest version from MT4 and footnote b to be applied only for appliances and parts situated more than 850 mm above the floor after installation. In addition, the title of the Table will be modified as follows: Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfaces for appliances intended to be installed in areas open to the publicunder normal operating conditions.As a consequence, clause 7 shall be aligned with the addition of the symbol and warning concerning hot





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surfaces.

Table 101 – Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfacesunder normal operating conditions

Surface





installation b



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7 JP02 137 Clause 1 See JP1 Remove “not open to the public”.Change to: These appliances are not intended for household and similar purposes. They are used for

See 6





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Type of comment


commercial purposes such as keeping crockery warm, processing of food and keeping processed food warm, in areas not open to the public, for example in kitchens of restaurants, canteens, hospitals and in commercial enterprises such as bakeries and butcheries.


warming plates and similar appliances for household use or use in the following environments (IEC 60335-2-12:

See 6

9 DE01 165-169 Scope ed There was no proposal in the DC for modifying the Scope. The editorial team added the new following text: warming plates and similar

appliances used in the following environments (IEC 60335-2-12):

• staff kitchen areas in shops, offices and other working environments;

• farm houses;

• by clients in hotels, motels and other residential type environments;

• bed and breakfast type environments.

Appliances like toasters (-2-48) differ depending on whether they are open for the public or only used in commercial kitchens.But appliances to keep crockery or food warm often are placed open to the public (see picture). The current standard takes this already into account. Therefore, in this part the new lines must be deleted.






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Type of comment


Figure 1 Plate dispenser

Figure 2 Warm food counter

10 DE02 205-207 3.1.9 ed The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors” in other commercial catering equipment parts. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-


Accepted with the addition “and detachable electrical parts” to read as follows:Motors and detachable electrical parts incorporated in the appliance are





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Type of comment


mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.

operated under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.

11 DE03 233-236 3.5.105 te The installation wall is not related to the type of the appliance. For the testing the appliance must be fixed to an installation wall.

Shift this definition to 3.8 as 3.8.101 Accepted to be renumbered as 3.8.102

12 DE04 253-258 7.12 ed These lines were a proposal of AUNC and have been hastily agreed for part -2-48 and this part in the TC61 web-meeting to be integrated in the standard. The appliances like toasters (-2-48) differ depending on whether they are open for the public or only used in commercial kitchens.But appliances to keep crockery or food warm often are placed open to the public (see picture). The current standard takes this already into account. Therefore, in this part the new lines must be deleted.






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Type of comment


Figure 3 Plate dispenser


13 US02 260-267 3.6.106, 3.6.107

These terms are in 3.8 of the other MT32 CDV’s

Renumber as 3.8.101 and 3.8.102 Comment withdrawn by USNC during the meeting

13 bis




14 DK03 323 7.12 te The addition to this line reading "containing hob elements" is not part of any previous proposal. It is not likely that appliances in this scope of this standard

In line 323 delete "containing hob elements"

Accepted





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Type of comment


are containing hob element (but induction heat sources may be incorporated in the appliances e.g. to heat water) and therefor this addition should be included.

15 CH03 330 7.12 ed Improve formulation. Delete “the” before “manufacturer”. Refer to EG1


17 JP03 342-343 7.12 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after seventh sentence.The instructions shall include the substance if this appliance can be used in the areas open to the public.

See 6

18 JP04 420 8.1.1 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after first sentence.This clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows.Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

See 6

19 DE05 before 452

10.1 ed Though 61/6085/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the sentence that should make clear what part is to be modified, was deleted by the editorial group.The sentence, that was deleted “Instead of the first paragraph of the requirement, the following applies:” For what reason? Did the editorial group think that it didn’t fit (anymore?) to part 1.No explanation at all what is to be modified, will lead to discussions and misunderstandings however.

Add before line 452:“Instead of the first paragraph of the requirement, the following applies:”

Accepted

20 DE06 before 479

10.2 ed Though 61/6085/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the sentence that should make clear what part is to be modified, was deleted by the editorial


Accepted





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Type of comment


group.The sentence, that was deleted “Instead of the first paragraph of the requirement, the following applies:” For what reason? Did the editorial group think that it didn’t fit (anymore?) to part 1.No explanation at all what is to be modified, will lead to discussions and misunderstandings however.


Accepted

22 US04 541 11.4 te Per decision on US01 in 61/6105A/INF If the temperature rise limits of motors, transformers or electronic circuits are exceeded, the test is repeated with the appliance supplied at 1,06 times rated voltage. In this case, only the temperature rises of motors, transformers and electronic circuits the component for which the temperature rise limits were exceeded are measured.

Accepted to remove lines 539 to 541.






See 6




Accepted

25 DK04 580-586 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK 06 in 61/6105A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the

Modify line 580 so that it reads: Accepted with the following





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response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g., IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.





modification to line 580:



Replace the text in line 585 to 588: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane





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where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

26 SA01 580 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 25

27 DE08 640-642 19.1 ed To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the two commas (although it might be grammatically correct).

Modify lines 640 - 642 to read as follows:

“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is, in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”


“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is in addition set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”





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28 CH06 651 19.2 ed Correction of typo. Replace “Surfaces” with “surfaces”. Accepted

29 JP05 726-727 20.2 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after last paragraph.


See 6




or







Accepted

32 DE10 785-787 22.106 te The requirement: “Thermal controls shall not be incorporated in connectors complying with the standard sheets of IEC 60320-3 or IEC 60309-2.”was not in the DC. Where does it come from?Thermal controls incorporated in connectors are not used in commercial catering equipment.The new requirement was integrated in parts -2-37, -38, -39, -48, -49, -50 but not integrated in parts 2-36, -42, -47. Why not in these parts too if






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the requirement is considered reasonable for commercial catering equipment?





Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42, 2-47, etc. EG1 will manage these updates.

34 DE09 797 20.101 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020 but was forgotten in the CDV.

Add “s” after “motor”. Accepted

35 DE11 832-841 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 but with an additional paragraph (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) Text of 61/6085/DC:“Remove the last sentence:‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “

Text of the CDV:“Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of


Accepted





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terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

The cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement.

36 CH08 855, 856

27.2 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 854 - 855 and the text in line 856 are related as “and” or “or”.

For improved clarity, add “and” after each semicolon.

Accepted to add “and” at the end of line 856

37 DK07 892-897 30.101 te As agreed for DK10 in 61/6105A/INF the proposed cl. 30.101 should not have been included.

Delete line 892-897 of the proposal Accepted

38 US05 892-897 30.101 te Per decision on DK10 in 61/6105A/INF Delete lines 892-897 See 37


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33. IEC 60335-2-50: Particular requirements for commercial electric bains-marie 61/6167/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6289/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/JPNC)48, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)64


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Noted





3 CH02 11 FOREWORD

ed A semicolon is missing at the end of the sentence.

Add a semicolon at the end of the sentence.

Accepted

4 CH03 16 FOREWORD


A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.

Accepted


Now, TC61 adapt the way to move the requirements for open to the public in commercial appliances standards such as -2-48(toasters), -2-49(hot cupboards) and -2-50(bains-marie) to the household appliances standards, because Part 1; ed.6 adapt the test probe 18. And such


Change to: This International Standard deals with the safety of electrically operated commercial bains-marie not intended for household and similar use, their rated voltage being not more than 250 V for single-phase appliances connected between one phase and neutral, and 480 V for other appliances.






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appliances open to the public are assumed to be used mainly in hotel buffets.However, we mistakenly forget the differences between commercial and household appliances standards other than test probe 18. The number of loads and heating periods are different in clause 10, 11 and other clauses, for instance between -2-48 and -2-9. If the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets are tested accordance with -2-9, we would evaluate such appliances with some weaker requirements. Because these appliances in hotel buffets are used by much more clients for longer periods than the other appliances normally specified in -2-9. In this case, these additional requirements have to be added in -2-9 specified only for the appliances used in open to the public such as hotel buffets. (It means that the appliances used in open to the public should be also additionally distinguished in the instruction to the normal household appliances.) These problems are not only for -2-48, -2-49 and -2-50, but also -2-90(microwave ovens). In the case of -2-90, the number of door endurance test and door abuse tests are also different to the household standard; -2-25. And these appliances are not only used in hotel buffets, but also convenience stores and department stores as used in open to the public. We have to bring many requirements from -2-90 to -2-25 for the appliance open to the public. We believe that the other commercial standards would be having same problems.






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Finally, we emphasize an area open to the public in clause 8.1.1 and 20.2 of Part 1: ed.6 is do considered for commercial use. Then we should also modify the following current sentence of Part 1 when we take this way.

Test probe 18 is not applied to appliances for commercial use unless they are intended to be installed in an area open to the public.

6 DK02 116 1 te The specification that these appliances are used in areas not open to the public is not correct. Bains-marie's are often used in for example canteens and buffet-restaurants at self-service counters and placed in the public area of the restaurant or canteen. As these products are used in public areas, this will include children at all ages, elderly, and people with special needs. The draft standard does not take this into account e.g., it allows a temperature rise of 25 K in note b) in table 101. Furthermore, according to 61/6106A/INF the use of probe 18 was decided not to be relevant. Consequently, the standard does not give the sufficient level of safety to the consumers mentioned above.

DK NC propose to transfer the proposal for discussion in MT4 for relevant modifications including the possible need to also include test probe 19.

Modify the scope to indicate that appliances may be used in areas open to the public.

Please refer the draft standard back to MT4 to solve the problem with the surface temperatures and the aspect of test probes



(line 135):Appliances for heating liquids for household use





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covered by IEC 60335-2-15 and used in the following environments by laymen:

(after line 208)3.8 Definitions relating to miscellaneous matters3.8.103area open to the publicarea in which the general public, including children, may have accessNote 1 to entry: Examples are canteens and self-service restaurants.

7.12 Addition

The manufacturer shall declare that the appliance is also intended to be used in an area open to thepublic or, if the appliance is not suitable for use in an area open to





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the public, the instruction shall include the substance of the following warning:


11.8 Addition:

For appliances intended to be installed in areas open to the public, the temperature shall not exceed the values shown in Table 101 <reported in the next row>Accepted in principle, but the Table to be aligned to the latest version from MT4 and footnote b to be applied only for appliances and parts situated more than 850 mm above the floor after installation. In addition, the title of the Table will be modified as follows: Maximum





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temperature rises of external accessible surfaces for appliances intended to be installed in areas open to the publicunder normal operating conditions.As a consequence, clause 7 shall be aligned with the addition of the symbol and warning concerning hot surfaces.





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Table 101 – Maximum temperature rises of external accessible surfacesunder normal operating conditions

Surface





installation b



38425158

42495662











7 JP02 116 Clause 1 See JP1 Remove “not open to the public”.Change to: These appliances are not intended for household and similar purposes. They are used for commercial processing of food in areas not open to the public, for example in kitchens of restaurants,

See 6





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canteens, hospitals and in commercial enterprises such as bakeries and butcheries..

8 CH04 134 1 ed Wrong punctuation. At the end of the third dashed item, replace the full stop with a semicolon.

Accepted

9 CH05 135 1 ed Wrong punctuation. At the end of the fourth dashed item, replace the semicolon with a colon.

Accepted

10 DE01 135-139 Scope ed There was no proposal in the DC for modifying the Scope. The editorial team added the new following text: appliances for heating liquids used in

the following environments (IEC 60335-2-15);

• staff kitchen areas in shops, offices and other working environments;

• farm houses;

• by clients in hotels, motels and other residential type environments;

• bed and breakfast type environments.

Appliances like toasters (-2-48) differ depending on whether they are open for the public or only used in commercial kitchens.But appliances like bain maries often are placed open to the public (see picture). The current standard takes this already into account. Therefore, in this part the new lines must be deleted.






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Likewise, annex B from part



or alternatively:









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1 has not been deleted.


appliances for heating liquids for household use or use in the following environments (IEC 60335-2-15):

See 6

13 US02 158 3.1.4 ed Should be Note 101 to entry Note 101 to entry Accepted

14 DE02 172-174 3.1.9 ed The words “in the intended manner” haven’t been deleted as proposed in 61/6086/DC and accepted in the Web Meetings. To align the wording in all parts 2 (for commercial catering equipment) it should be deleted in this part too.The editorial team has added the words “and detachable electrical parts” after “Motors”. These words didn’t come out of any DC for commercial catering equipment.These words haven’t been added in the CDVs for parts 2-36, -42, -47, -48, -49. We can’t see a technical reason for this.Either add the words in the above-mentioned standards where the same sentence is included or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50..

Modify lines 172 - 174 to read as follows:“Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use taking into account the manufacturer's instructions.”Either add the words “and detachable electrical parts” in parts 2-36, -42, 47, -48, -49 where a similar sentence is included after “Motors”or delete the words in the standards -2-37, -38, -39, -50.


15 DK03 172-174 3.1.9 te The proposed and agreed content of 61/6086/DC has not been implemented

Replace line 172-174 with the following:

"Motors incorporated in the appliance are operated in the intended manner under the most severe unfavourable conditions that can be expected in normal use, taking into account the manufacturer's instructions"

See 14

16 US03 200-207 3.8.103, 3.8.104

ed These should be relocated to 3.6 Add the following heading and renumber these as 3.6.101 and 3.6.1023.6 Definitions relating to parts of

Accepted





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an appliance3.6.1013.6.102

16bis




17 DE03 219 5.102 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020 but it was forgotten to delete a comma after “incorporating” in the CDV.

Modify line 219 as follows:“Appliances, when assembled in combination with, or incorporating, other appliances,”

Accepted


19 DE04 250-255 7.12 ed These lines were a proposal of AUNC and have been hastily agreed for part -2-48 and this part in the TC61 web-meeting to be integrated in the standard. Appliances like toasters (-2-48) differ depending on whether they are open for the public or only used in commercial kitchens.But appliances like bain maries often are placed open to the public (see picture). The current standard takes this already into account. Therefore, in this part the new lines must be deleted.






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20 JP03 255-256 7.12 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after sixth sentence.The instructions shall include the substance if this appliance can be used in the areas open to the public.

See 6

21 DE05 310-314 7.102 + 7.103

ed The proposal of the DC was not accepted in the web-meetings 2020. The CDV is wrong.

Modify lines 310-314 as follows:7.102Appliances or the detachable electrical parts of appliances intended to be partially immersed in water for cleaning shall be marked with a line that clearly indicates the maximum depth of immersion, together with the substance of the following warning:Do not immerse beyond this line.If there is any seam or seal that causes the appliance or part not to withstand the treatment specified in 15.102, the line indicating the maximum depth of immersion shall be at least 50 mm below any such seam or seal when the appliance or the part is in the position in which it is to be cleaned.

Accepted





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Compliance is checked by inspection and measurement.7.103Containers intended to be filled by hand or a manually operated tap shall be marked with an indicated level.Compliance is checked by inspection.

22 DK04 310-311 7.102 te According to meeting agreement (61/6106A), cl. 7.102 should remain unchanged. However, this content has changed to now be identical with 7.103.

Reinstate the original content of cl. 7.102 so that it reads:

"7.102 Appliances or the detachable electrical parts of appliances intended to be partially immersed in water for cleaning shall be marked with a line that clearly indicates the maximum depth of immersion, together with the substance of the following warning:

Do not immerse beyond this line

If there is any seam or seal that causes the appliance or part not to withstand the treatment specified in 15.102, the line indicating the maximum depth of immersion shall be at least 50 mm below any such seam or seal when the appliance or the part is in the position in which it is to be cleaned."

See 21

23 JP04 317 8.1.1 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after first sentence.This clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows.Modification: If the appliance can be used in the area open to the public, test probe 18 is applied.

See 6





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Accepted




With


See 6




Accepted

27 DE09 393-398 15.1 ed Though 61/6086/DC proposed no change and there was no comment on this clause int the web-meeting 2020, the clause was completely deleted. Presumably the text should have been replaced by that of Part 37, in which the note has been converted into normative text.

Modify lines 393 - 398 to read as follows:15.1 Addition: Any detachable electrical parts or appliances, other than stationary appliances, not marked with a line indicating the maximum depth of immersion for cleaning, or for which there is no warning against partial or complete immersion in water for cleaning in the instructions, are also subjected to the tests of 15.102.

Accepted

28 DK05 403-409 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK 04 in 61/6106A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g., IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash





“and adjustable feet shall be set in accordance with the instruction for use to the most





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test.



unfavourable height.”


Replace the text in line 408 to 411: “For all other appliances, the bowl is placed on the same plane where the appliance is placed and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all directions. During the test, the water pressure is so regulated that the





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water splashes up to 100 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”

29 SA01 403 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 28

30 DE10 417-419 15.2 ed A copy and paste fault has already happened in 61/6086/DC. The sentence “A litre of the solution is poured steadily over a period of 1 min on to the centre of any heated surface.” isn’t from the current standard -2-50.” So is the Note 101.

Modify lines 417 - 419 to read as follows:The water-well and steam generators of appliances intended to be filled by hand are completely filled with the solution and a further quantity equal to 15 % of their capacity but not more than 10 l is poured in steadily over a period of 1 min.The food containers of dry-heat-type bains-marie are filled with the solution and placed in the appliance. A further quantity of 1 l is then added to each container.Appliances intended to be filled by a manually operated tap or automatically are connected to a water supply having the maximum supply pressure indicated by the manufacturer. The means for controlling the incoming water is held fully open and the filling continued for 1 min after the first evidence of overflow, or until a further protective system operates to stop the inflow.

Accepted





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31 CH08 439 15.102 ed Correction of typo. Delete one full stop at the end of the sentence.

Accepted

32 DE06 before 452



Comment withdrawn during the meeting by DE NC

33 DE07 before 479



Comment withdrawn during the meeting by DE NC

34 DE11 484-486 19.1 ed To align the wording with other commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the three commas (although it might be grammatically correct).

Modify lines 484 - 486 to read as follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is, in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting, irrespective of the

Accepted





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manufacturer's instructions.”

35 JP05 496-497 20.2 See JP1 Add the following requirement at after Clause 20.1.


See 6




or







Accepted

38 US05 541, 544



Accepted



Accepted





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As such this constitute a technical change and will require a seperate proposal and cannot be supported

part of the previous proposal (61/6086/DC) or otherwise the related discussion (61/6106A/INF) and therefore cannot be added without a separate proposal and associated technical



Accepted. The same requirement shall be included in 2-36, 2-42 and 2-47. EG1 will manage these updates.





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discussions.

42 DE13 593-606 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6086/DC:“Remove the last sentence:‘Compliance is checked by inspection.’ “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”


Accepted





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43 CH10 620, 621





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34. IEC 60335-2-52: Particular requirements for oral hygiene appliances 61/6168/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6301/RVCNew EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT31)15, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)29The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6301A/RVC




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Noted

2 CI/ANEC 01

ge CI supports this document Noted

3 IT01 ge The Italian NC does not support the Noted





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proposal for the following reason:4 IT02 ge In clause 30.2 of Part 1, the products

with REMOTE OPERATION shall be classified as unattended appliance and tested in accordance to clause 30.2.3. In this draft, clause 30.2.3 is not applicable. How does the product shall be tested?

Change clause 30 of 2-52 as follow:30 Resistance to heat and fireThis clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follow:30.2 Replace the fifth paragraph with the following:Appliances for remote operation are considered to be attended appliances and consequently, they are subjected to the test of 30.2.2

30.2.3 Not applicable.

Not accepted, but it was agreed that 30.2.3 is applicable; therefore, line 355 of the CDV shall be removed.It was considered that some types of products covered by 2-52 may have a cleaning mode that is operated remotely while the user is not present.




6 CH02 9 FOREWORD



Accepted

7 DK01 120 1 te The scope replaces the scope in the part 1. Therefore DC-supplied and battery-operated appliances are excluded from the scope.

As some appliances within the scope of this standard are likely to be DC or battery operated it is appropriate to clarify this in the scope by including the wording used in the part 1.

Add in the end of the first paragraph:

including direct current (DC) supplied appliances and battery-operated appliances.

Accepted





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appliances for heating liquids for household use or use in the following environments (IEC 60335-2-15):

Withdrawn (copy of -2-50 comment)

9 US02 158 3.1.4 ed Should be Note 101 to entry Note 101 to entry Withdrawn (copy of -2-50 comment)

10 NL01 164 6.2 te What is meant with “hand-held part” in this context?Based on 22.36 hand-held parts shall be class III construction having a voltage not exceeding 24 V.Hence, they can only be of class III construction acc. 22.36 and are therefore covered by lines 165-167.

Delete line 164. Accepted with the following wording in line 165-167 and remove line 164:- Class III appliances or parts of Class III construction, including handheld parts, that are at least IPX4.

11 CH03 165 6.2 ed Wrong interpunctuation. Delete the semicolon at the end of the third dashed item.

Accepted

12 NL02 165-167 6.2 te The ingress of water is not only affecting the electric shock hazard, but also other hazards need to be addressed like fire, dangerous malfunction.

For this reason, NLNC proposes to apply IPX4 for class III appliances and parts of class III construction.

Modify as follows:

- class III appliances or parts of class III construction that are at least IPX4.

See 10

13 JP01 176-177 8.1.1 te Test probe 19 should be applied only for toothbrushes that are intended to be used to brush infants’ teeth.

Add the following underlined text.

For toothbrushes that are intended to be used to brush infants’ teeth, in addition to the use of test probe 18, test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18.

Not accepted. In particular because it is not clear what is considered to be an infant age.

14 DK02 194-198 11.7 te Since this part of the proposal is a replacement of 11.7 in the part-1 it

Add the following after line 198: Accepted





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does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances while integral or separable batteries are being charged in the appliance.

It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 for batteries that are charged the appliance is not performing its intended function are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.

However, for appliances that can perform teir intended function while the batteries are also being charged, the requirement for continuous operation as specified the part-1 may not be appropriate and so this part may need to be adapted to suit appliances covered by this standard.

"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated as specified , if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."

15 US03 200-207 3.8.103, 3.8.104





accessible surfaceswith

Temperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces


17 US04 237 7.6 ed Caution should be lower case caution, hot surface Withdrawn (copy of -





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2-50 comment)

18 NL03 246 20.1 te It is the intend to exclude fixed appliances and hand-held appliances from the stability test. That is however not how it is currently written.NLNC believes a comma should be placed after “hand-held appliances”.

Add “,” after “hand-held appliances” Accepted

19 US05 246-249 20.1 te The requirement indicates that the appliance must have adequate stability, but then 264-274 allows the appliance to overturn if it meets certain criteria that reduce the hazards of the appliance overturning. The requirement should indicate that ‘adequate stability’ is not necessary if the overturning of the appliance does not result in a hazard.

Add at the end of line 249:However, adequate stability is not necessary if overturning of the appliance does not present a risk of fire, electric shock or injury.

Accepted

20 JP02 280-281 20.2 te Test probe 19 should be applied only for toothbrushes that are intended to be used to brush infants’ teeth.

Add the following underlined text.

For toothbrushes that are intended to be used to brush infants’ teeth, in addition to the use of test probe 18, test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18.

See 13

21 DE01 296-321 21.10221.103Mechanical strength

Mechanical strength against crushingMechanical strength against dropping

21.10221.103

te The mechanical strength of the enclosure of a detachable power supply part shall be as a general requirement included in part 1.

Shift this requirement into part 1 of IEC 60335

Not accepted, but in their activity WG 48 shall evaluate if it will be suitable to include 21.102 and 21.103 from the CDV under discussion in Part 1.





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22 DE02 296-308 21.102Mechanical strength

Mechanical strength against crushing

21.102 te Power supply parts of oral hygiene appliances (e.g. electrical toothbrushes, oral irrigators) are not placed on the floor. They are placed in a bathroom at an elevated height.Hence, a requirement against crushing when positioned on the floor is meaningless. The consumer meaningful safety requirements are well covered by the mechanical strength against dropping (21.103). The requirement “mechanical strength against crushing” has been re-applied from devices which are operated on the floor. For such devices the requirement makes sense. However, oral care appliances are not used while users sitting on the floor nor are such devices usually placed on the floor.

Remove paragraph 21.102 Accepted

23 DK03 378-383 B.11.1 te The proposal does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances when they are not connected to the supply for charging.As no modification is provided for B.11.1 in the part 1, it means that battery-operated appliances that cannot perform their intended function while the batteries are being charged are required to be operated continuously until depletion of the battery.

This type of operation is different from what is otherwise specified for appliances in this standard and therefor may not be appropriate for the type of operation foreseen by these appliances.


B.11.1 replacement:

Battery-operated appliances are tested under the conditions of normal operation.

Battery-operated appliances with non-rechargeable batteries, with detachable batteries, and those incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes, and that cannot perform their intended function while the batteries are being charged, are operated for five cycles, each cycle comprising an operating period of 3 min and a rest period of 1 min.During the rest period, the reservoir of

Accepted to replace the first paragraph of B.11 in Part 1 by the following: Battery-operated appliances are tested under the conditions of normal operation, the appliance is operated for 5 cycles, where one cycle comprises an operating period of 3 min and a rest period of 1 min.During the rest period, the reservoir of oral irrigators is refilled.





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It must be assumed that appliances are operated in the same way while supplied from the batteries as when supplied from the mains. and therefore, it is proposed to contain the same requirement in cl. 11.7 as in B.11.1

oral irrigators is refilled.If the reservoir empties during the operating period, it is refilled and the test is continued.

If the reservoir empties during the operating period, it is refilled and the test is continued.And delete in the 3rd paragraph of Part 1, the word “continuously”.

24 DK04 381 B.22.3 ed The addition indicates how to apply test probe 19 but in principle does not call for the actual use of test probe 19. As such an improvement of the text is proposed to ensure a more consistent understanding of the requirement.

Since a more clear text is introduced in cl. 8.1.1, it is proposed to use the same text here as well.

Also, in cl. 8.1.1 probe 19 is only applied to toothbrushes while in annex B the application is not limited and therefor apply to all appliances.

The DK NC question whether this is an oversight or intended? The text may need to be modified accordingly

Modify the proposed text so that it reads:

"in addition to the use of test probe 18, test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18."

Accepted with the following wording: “in addition to the use of test probe 18, for toothbrushes test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18.”

25 DK05 383 B.22.4 ed The addition indicates how to apply test probe 19 but in principle does not call for the actual use of test probe 19. As such an improvement of the text is proposed to ensure a more consistent understanding of the requirement.

Since a more clear text is introduced in cl. 8.1.1, it is proposed to use the same text here as well.

Modify the proposed text so that it reads:

"in addition to the use of test probe 18, test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18."

Accepted with the following wording: “in addition to the use of test probe 18, for toothbrushes test probe 19 of IEC 61032:1997 is also applied as specified for test probe 18.”





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ed Wrong format of headline. Format “Bibliography” as bold headline. Accepted

27 US06 541, 544




28 DE03 372-378 Annex B Complete clause

te Annex B of part 1 is applicable (with additions to clause 22)This would imply that tables B.2 and B.3 of 60335-1 (Annex B, clause 20) would be taken over for part 2-52 without specific changes for electrical oral hygiene appliances.However, all batteries used for oral hygiene appliances have capacities very well below the upper value of the lowest category (line 1 in both tables).Today´s batteries used on oral hygiene appliances have not more than 1Ah.As change versus Annex B of part 1, in particular new classification tables and values for oral hygiene appliance batteries should be introduced which reflect capacities which occur for batteries of oral hygiene appliances and the respective correlated gas volumes.Re-define both tables and include values which are meaningful for oral hygiene appliances. In particular, provide more granularity for the line with the lowest capacities.Include additional lines:0.2≤Ah<1 / 1≤Ah<3 / 3≤Ah<5Respective openings: 6mm2 / 10mm2 / 20mm2

Addition:B.20.1Insert modified tables (B.2 and B.3).New table B.2

New table B.3

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Respective gas volumes: 6ml / 10ml / 20ml


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35. IEC 60335-2-55: Particular requirements for electrical appliances for use with aquariums and garden ponds 35a. 61/6169/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6302/RVC New EditionThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6302A/INF




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Noted

2 CI/ANEC 01










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4 JP01 ed All the main-clause numbers are missing. Accepted

5 NL01 115149153

Etc.

All Title No title number at main clauses Add title number:1 Scope2 Normative references3 Terms and definitionsEtc.

See 4

6 US01 Various Various ed The Clause numbers are missing throughout the document

Add Clause numbers before Clause titles

See 4





Accepted as an editorial change.

8 DK02 237-238 11.7 te Since this part of the proposal is a replacement of 11.7 in the part 1, it does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances while integral or separable batteries are being charged in the appliance.

It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.


"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated continuously performing its intended function, if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."

Accepted as modified:

11.7 Addition:





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9 CH02 245 11.8 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.


Accepted


ReplaceTemperature rise a

with

Temperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces a

Accepted as modified:

Temperature rises of external accessible surfaces a

11 DK03 289 19.101 te The deletion of the note is not supported. The content of the note is technical in nature and so it must be converted to normative text. Although the technical content may not be needed, the deletion of it cannot be made without presenting it is a proposal for discussion through the relevant stages.

Keep the content as the note converted to normative text so that line 289 reads:

"The aerator is not placed in water".

Accepted to add after the first sentence in line 286-287.

12 DK04 339-340 22.101 te The conversion of the note to normative text is not appropriate as the resulting text is not clearly understandable. Implementing the existing text of the note more directly would provide a more accurate and understandable requirement.

Instead of the proposed text, modify line 339-340 so that it reads:

"Keyhole slots, hooks, suction fasteners and similar means, without any further means to prevent the appliance from being inadvertently lifted off the support, are not considered to be adequate means for fixing the appliance securely."

Not accepted.



Accepted

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for the fourth edition. In addition, 61/6211/DC and 61/6272A/INF to be included in the FDIS. Also, for all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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35b. 61/6211/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6272/INF TC 61 Secretariat, Maximum operation depthThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6272A/INF




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Noted

2 NO01 3 7.1 ed Spelling error Change to:“Appliances for use in water shall be marked shall be marked to indicate …”

Accepted

3 SA01 3 7.1 Appliances for use in water shall be marked shall be marked to indicate the maximum operating depth, in metres, with a minimum of 1 m using symbol IEC 60417-6444 (2020-12).

remove repeated “shall be marked”

See 2

4 US01 7.1 ed Remove duplicate text Appliances for use in water shall be marked shall be marked to indicate the maximum operating depth, in metres, with a minimum of 1 m using symbol IEC 60417-6444 (2020-12).

See 2

5 NL01 3-4 7.1 ed Proposals contains errors and is difficult to read.

Change to:Appliances for use in water shall be marked shall be marked to indicate with the maximum operating depth, in metres, with a minimum of 1 m, using symbol IEC 60417-6444 (2020-12).

Accepted to insert comma after 1 m.





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6 NL02 6-7 7.12 te As the requirements of 7.1 have been changed (to include a minimum operating depth of 1 m) the requirement in 7.12 needs to be aligned.

Change to:

In the addition replace the second paragraph as follows:The instructions for appliances intended to be fully immersed in water shall state the maximum operating depth, with a minimum of 1 m. If symbol IEC 60417-6444 (2020-12) is used its meaning shall be explained.

Accepted

DECISION: To be included in the FDIS resulting from the discussion of 61/6169/CDV and 61/6302A/RVC

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36. IEC 60335-2-59: Particular requirements for insect killers 61/6170/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6303/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT31)16, 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT4)30The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6303A/RVC




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Type of comment



Noted

2 CI/ANEC 01









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review.

4 CH02 9 FOREWORD

ed Wrong punctuation. Replace semicolon with a full stop at the end of the sentence.

Accepted

5 JP01 ed All the main-clause numbers are missing. Accepted

6 NL01 119146151

Etc.

All Title No title number at main clauses Add title number:1 Scope2 Normative references3 Terms and definitions

Etc.

See 5





Accepted

8 US01 217 8.1.1 te There was a decision made on 61/6070/DC for -2-80 to accept a comment similar to JP01 of 61/6110/INF to limit the use of test probe 18 to products situated below 1,8 m based on Guide 117. It is suggested that we adopt similar wording in this part 2 as was discussed for -2-80 (See 61/6115A/INF, JP03 and FR01)

Add the following Modification to 8.1.1.

Test probe 18 of IEC 61032 is not applied to appliances that according to the instructions are required to be mounted at a height exceeding 1,8 m above the floor.

Accepted





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9 DK02 234-235 11.7 te Since this part of the proposal is a replacement of 11.7 in the part-1 it does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances while integral or separable batteries are being charged in the appliance.

It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 for batteries that are charged while the appliance is not performing its intended function are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.

However, for appliances that can perform their intended function while the batteries are also being charged, the requirement for continuous operation as specified the part-1 does not appropriately correspond to the specification for normal operation in this standard and so this part will need to be adapted to suit appliances covered by this standard.


"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated performing its intended function as specified for normal operation, if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."

Accepted with modification:

Replace line 234:

11.7 Addition:







11 DK03 269 16.101 ed The deletion of the note is not supported. The note is purely informative in nature and so can remain as a note. The information provided may be of relevance to some readers and therefor the note should remain as is

Reinstate the note as a NOTE Accepted.





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12 US02 281 20.2 te There was a decision made on 61/6070/DC for -2-80 to accept a comment similar to JP01 of 61/6110/INF to limit the use of test probe 18 to products situated below 1,8 m based on Guide 117. It is suggested that we adopt similar wording in this part 2 as was discussed for -2-80 (See 61/6115A/INF, JP03 and FR01)

20 Stability and mechanical hazards

This clause of Part 1 is applicable except as follows.

20.2 Modification:

Test probe 18 of IEC 61032 is not applied to appliances that according to the instructions are required to be mounted at a height exceeding 1,8 m above the floor.

Accepted

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for fourth edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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37. IEC 60335-2-64: Particular requirements for commercial electric kitchen machines 61/6171/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6290/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)65The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6290A/INF




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Noted

2 AU01 ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1







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Type of comment


precludes use of older part twos.This part 2 is to be used in conjunction with the latest edition of IEC 60335-1 and its amendments unless that edition precludes it; in that case, the latest edition that does not preclude it is used. It was established on the basis of the sixth edition (2020) of that standard.

review.




Direct current (DC) supplied appliances and battery-operated appliances are within the scope of the standard.

Accepted with modification:at the end of the line 122 “including direct current (DC) supplied appliances and battery operatedappliances.”

Replace line 373 with the following:11.7 Addition:Instead of the first paragraph, the following applies.

4 US01 158 1 ed Household kitchen machines should also be included in the list of products not covered under this standard

Add the following dashed item under line 158:kitchen machines for household use (IEC 60335-2-14)

Not acceptedThe household appliances are already excluded in the scope (line 123);

5 US02 180-184, 361-365

3.1.4, 10.1 te Products covered under -2-64 are motor-operated appliances. If they have more than one motor (or load) that can operated at the same time, the rated power input should be based on all loads operating that are capable of operating at the same

Delete lines 180-184 and 361-365 Not acceptedProducts with motor+heating elements are not excluded from the





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time. scope (e.g. appliances that mix and cook at the same time).

5 bis




6 DE01 219 5.102 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020 but it was forgotten to delete a comma after “incorporating” in the CDV.

Modify line 219 as follows:“Appliances, when assembled in combination with, or incorporating, other appliances,”

Accepted



Comment withdrawn by DKNC during the meeting

8 US03 364-365 10.1 te If US2 is not accepted

In 3.1.4, ‘individual element’ is used to describe multiple loads. This can be understood to be something other than a heating unit or heating element, so that wording is suggested here also.

For appliances having more than one individual element, the total power input may be determined by measuring the power input of each individual element separately (see also 3.1.4).

Not AcceptedAccording to 10.1 (60335-1) the only load involved in case of “multiple loads” are heating elements(motor are already





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covered by 10.1 in Part 1)Proposed modification:“For appliances having more than one heating unit that can be on at the same time, the total power input may be determined by measuring the power input of each heating unit separately (see also 3.1.4).”

9 DK03 373-376 11.7 te Since this part of the proposal is a replacement of 11.7 in the part-1 it does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances while integral or separable batteries are being charged in the appliance.

It is assumed that the conditions specified in the part-1 for batteries that are charged while the appliance is not performing its intended function are appropriate and suitable also for appliances in the scope of this standard and therefor the requirement from the part-1 can be included directly.

However, for appliances that can perform their intended function while the batteries are also being charged, the requirement for continuous operation as specified the part-1 is not appropriate (considering the


"For appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes:– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged for 1 h, while the appliance is operated as specified, if allowed by the construction of the appliance;– the battery that has been fully discharged is charged, for a duration of 24 h or until it is fully charged whichever is shorter, without the battery-operated appliance performing its intended function."

Accepted





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approach defined for normal operation and considering the possible need to operate in cycles) and a modification is proposed.

Note it has not been considered if the proposed text feasibly takes the situation defined for normal operation where the appliances is operated at 115% of the no-load input into consideration. As such additional modifications to encompass this may be necessary.

10 DK04 394-400 15.1.1 te Following up on the previous DK comment (DK 02 in 61/6107A/INF) about the position of height-adjustable feet and the response from TC61:The explanation from TC61 is that the intent is to splash against the side of the appliance enclosure. However, the IP-test corresponding with the IP classification of the appliance (e.g., IPX4) will already be taking care of this and therefor in our opinion this is not the intent of the splash test.


Therefor in our opinion the worst-case situation is when the feet are adjusted to the highest setting, leaving the largest opening between the floor and the bottom






Replace lines 395 to 398 with the following: “For appliances normally used on the floor, the bowl is placed on the floor and is moved around in such a way as to splash the appliance from all the directions. During the test, the water





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of the appliance. pressure is so regulated that the water splashes up 150 mm above the bottom of the bowl. The bowl is not positioned underneath the appliance.”


11 SA01 394 15.1.1 Paragraph 2



See 10

12 US04 424-430 15.101 ed Compliance text should be in italic font Italicize lines 424-430 Accepted

13 DE02 445-447 19.1 ed To align the wording with other Modify lines 445 - 447 to read as Accepted





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commercial catering parts (see part 2-36 …) delete the two commas (although it might be grammatically correct).

follows:“A control or switching device that is intended for different settings corresponding to different functions of the same part of the appliance is, in addition, set in the most unfavourable setting irrespective of the manufacturer's instructions.”

14 US05 462 20.2 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used.

Add the following as the penultimate sentence in the paragraph:

The test probe is applied with a force of 5 N.

Accepted

15 US06 487, 492

20.101, 20.102

te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used here also.

Add the following after ‘1997’:


Accepted

16 US07 516-517 20.105 te This is similar to the comments pertaining to 5.21. This rod may or may not be considered a probe. In -2-14, a 5 N force is applied to the cylindrical rod in 20.103, 20.109 and 20.115.

Add the following as a second sentence in the compliance criteria:‘The test rod is applied with a forcenot exceeding 5 N.’

Accepted

17 US08 543 20.109 te Similar to 20.105, there is no force specified for applying the test rod. It is recommended that the force specified in 20.2 for accessibility of moving parts be used.

(This should also be considered for 20.102 of -2-14 in 61/6223/DC)

Add the following at the end of line 543:‘The test rod is applied with a forcenot exceeding 5 N.’

Accepted

18 US09 651-652 20.118 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 5 N force specified in 20.2 of Part 1 be used here also.

Add the following at the end of the first sentence:


Accepted

19 US12 678 21 ed Is this an Addition to 21.1? Add ’21.1’ at the beginning of line 678 Accepted





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Delete the sentence starting in line 694-696 and reinstate Note 1.

or





21 DK06 713 22.102 ed In 61/6087/DC, the word "only" in the sentence was proposed deleted. This deletion has not been included in this document.

In accordance with 61/6087/DC, delete the word "only"

Accepted

22 US10 713 22.102 ed Delete ‘only’ as done in other MT32 CDVs Delete ‘only’ See 21

23 US11 720-724 22.103 te Due to 5.21 in the Part 1, where no force is specified, a test probe is to be applied with 1 N force. It is recommended that the 10 N force specified in IEC 61032 be used here.



Accepted




Accepted





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25 DE03 807-820 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for part -2-37 (see DENC-comment on 25.3 on 61/6159/CDV) and without the 3rd paragraph for part -2-38)Text of 61/6087/DC:“Modify the third, fourth and fifth sentence of the Addition as follows:If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they terminals shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.In both cases the instructions shall give full particulars of the power supply cord.Compliance is checked by inspection. “

Text of the CDV:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord.

To align part 2-38 with 2-37, 2-36 and the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 807 - 820 to read as follows:“The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.


Accepted





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In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”

Lines 809 - 812 are very similar to the existing lines 803 - 806 in the current standard.

In lines 809 - 812 the cord anchorage isn’t anymore a requirement. The meaning of the text has been twisted.

26 CH02 834, 835




27 CH03 840 27.2 ed Line 840 seems to be superfluous. Delete line 840. Accepted

28 US13 840 ed Typo Delete line 840 See 27

29 DK08 Annex B te The proposal does not provide for an appropriate implementation of the heating test for battery operated appliances when they are not connected to the supply for charging.As no modification is provided for B.11.1 in the part 1, it means that battery-operated appliances incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries, that cannot perform their intended function while the batteries are being charged are required to be operated continuously until depletion of the battery.

This type of operation is different from what is otherwise specified for appliances in this standard and is not appropriate for the type of operation foreseen by these

Add annex B to the standard with the following content:

B.11.1 replacement:

Battery-operated appliances are tested under the conditions of normal operation.

Battery-operated appliances with non-rechargeable batteries, with detachable batteries, and those incorporating integral batteries or separable batteries not disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes, and that cannot perform their intended function while the batteries are being charged, are operated until depletion of the battery

Accepted with the following wording at the end of the second paragraph:

“or until steady conditions are established, whichever occurs first.”

In addition, replace the note to entry in B.3.1.1 with the following:NOTE TO ENTRY: Operation of the appliance to perform its intended function





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appliances.

It must be assumed that appliances are operated in the same way while supplied from the batteries as when supplied from the mains. and therefore, it is proposed to contain the same requirement in cl. 11.7 as in B.11.1

For appliances with non-rechargeable batteries and detachable batteries or separable batteries that are disconnected from the appliance for charging purposes, the depletedbattery is immediately replaced with another battery that is fully charged, the battery being the model or type reference of the battery provided or indicated in the instructions. The test is repeated until the appliance no longer operates due to depletion of the battery or until the temperature rises have stabilized to values not more than 5 K higher than the temperature rises measured at the same locations during the first test, whichever occurs first.

is specified in 3.1.9.



Not accepted

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for fourth edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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38. IEC 60335-2-74: Particular requirements for portable immersion heaters 61/6172/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6293/RVC New Edition

DECISION: This item will not be discussed. The CDV was approved with no negative votes and will proceed directly to publication considering the editorial comments received.


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39. IEC 60335-2-75: Particular requirements for commercial dispensing appliances and vending machines 39a. 61/6212/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6273/INF SC61B/MT1, Note 102The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6273A/INF




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1 DE01 ge German NC supports this proposal. Noted


Noted

3 AU01 te Keep the standard as is, these devices will be used by the general public and this is why we have specified IEC 60335-2-25

Reject the DC Not accepted

4 NL01 3-4 1 te Similar to the replacement of the reference to IEC 60335-2-25 by IEC 60335-2-90, the reference to IEC 60335-2-24 (household refrigeration) should be replaced by IEC 60335-2-89 (commercial refrigeration) as IEC 60335-2-75 deals with appliances for commercial use.

Replaces lines 3- 4 by the following:Replace the dashed item of NOTE 102 with the following:

- Refrigeration (IEC 60335-2-89);- Heating by microwaves (IEC 60335-2-90).

Accepted with the following text:

- Refrigeration (IEC 60335-2-89);- Heating by microwaves (IEC 60335-2-90);- Professional Ice Cream makers (IEC 60335-2-118).

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for fourth edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6. In addition, the IT NC to develop a DC for 60335-2-75 to address appliances open to the public (aligned with similar requirements discussed during this meeting for 60335-2-48, 2-49 and 2-50) for discussion at the next plenary meeting of TC 61. Also, it was agreed to postpone the Stability Date for 60335-2-75 to 2023.

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40. IEC 60335-2-78: Particular requirements for outdoor barbecues 61/6173/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6294/RVC New EditionThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6294A/RVC




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Type of comment



Noted








or alternatively:









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3 AU01 Forward ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1 precludes use of older part twos




4 DK02 115-117 1 te The DK NC does not agree with the way note 1 has been implemented as normative text. In note 1 restaurants and hotels were examples of appliances covered by the standard. As this text has been implemented it is no longer example but may effectively be percieved as a limitation to such appliances only.

Instead, we propose to include the example similar to how it is implemented in for example 61/6169/CDV (60335-2-55)

Instead of the proposed modification in line 115 and 116 insert the following as a new paragraph after line 116:

"Examples of such appliances are those used in restaurants and hotels"

Not accepted

5 CH02 195, 196

7.12 ed As exception, parts of text required by 7.12 to be provided in the instructions need not to be formatted in bold, even when being defined terms (in general, users of appliances do not have access to standards, hence they do not know the meaning of formatting of words).

Format “class I appliances” in roman, not in bold.

Not accepted





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6 DK03 226-227 11.7 ge While appliances in the scope of this standard are unlikely to be battery-operated it should be considered that the replacement of 11.7 in part-1 effectively exclude the heating test for battery-operated appliances containing batteries (integral or separable) when they that are in the appliance.

It is noted that cl. 12 has been implemented as applicable and so it may be relevant to consider adding relevant requirements for the heating test accordingly.

- See 2

7 CH03 242 11.8 ed A full stop is missing at the end of the sentence.


Accepted

8 CI/ANEC 01

11.8 Table 101 te Permitting maximum temperature rises to double the given (safe) limits is an over generous relaxation.

Delete note b from Table 101. See 10



accessible surfaces a, b

with

Temperature rise limits of external accessible surfaces a, b


10 DK04 244 11.8 Table 101 te While the DK DC appreciate the acceptance of our comments on 61/5763/DC regarding surface temperature measurements, we cannot support the option for doubling the surface temperature limits as proposed by footnote b

Delete footnote b of table 101.

As a consequence, also lines 181-183, 188 and 207-215 must also be deleted

Not accepted


DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for third edition. For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.

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41. IEC 60335-2-81: Particular requirements for foot warmers and heating mats 41a. 61/6214/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6275/INF MT15, VariousThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6275A/INF




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1 US01 5 3.104 te Appliances in -2-81 may not have a ‘flexible part’

Replace ‘flexible part’ with ‘appliance’ Accepted with the following wording:control device, external to the functional part, by means of which the power input of the appliance or the temperature of the functional part can be adjusted or regulated

2 NO01 5-6 3.104 ed The word “average” only creates confusion and should be deleted.

Change the text to.“device, external to the flexible part, by means of which the average power input of the appliance or the temperature of the flexible part can be adjusted or regulated”

See 1

3 US02 9 7.1 te Appliances in -2-81 may not have a ‘flexible part’

Appliances to be used with a detachable control unit shall be marked with…

Accepted

4 AU01 17 te These items are very different to blankets that are generally stationary on beds, the hazard is completely different.

Delete line 17 to 19 Not accepted. The only change introduced is to add “units” to the word





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“control”.

5 NO02 21 25.14 ed This is a “Modification” of the existing text, not an “Addition”.

Change to:“25.14 Addition Modification:”

Not accepted. The wording is modified as follows to correct the editorial error:The test is applicable to appliances fitted with a non-detachable flexible cord.

6 NO03 25 25.15 ed Delete the text, as it is already in the standard.

Delete the text. See 7

7 US03 25 25.15 te This is only an increase if the appliance has a mass of less than 1 kg.

The pull force for appliances with a mass of 1 kg or less is increased to 60 N

Accepted

8 NL01 293435

30.101 te No rational is given for the relaxation. Delete line 29Delete line 34Delete line 35

Not accepted

9 US04 41 30.102 ed Include this note in the normative text Delete the Note and modify lines 39 and 44 to add ‘, including connections,’ after ‘heating elements and internal wiring’

Accepted

10 US05 57 30.102 te Assuming the test is to be conducted on three samples total, which is common, this line should indicate that the test is repeated on two additional samples

The test is repeated on two additional samples.

Accepted

DECISION: Proceed to CDV for fourth edition and to be aligned with 60335-1 ED6

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41b. 61/6213/DC – Compilation of Comments 61/6276/INF Australia, Electric hot water bottlesThe results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6276A/INF




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1 IT01 ge The Italian NC agrees with the proposal and submits the following comments.

Noted

2 CA01 - - - ge The CANC is not sure that these appliances belong in this part 2, but if it is accepted to add it here, then there is a need to update the title.

Update title:

Household and similar electrical appliances – Safety – Part 2-81: Particular requirements for foot warmers, hot water bottles and heating mats

Accepted

3 DK01 ge This is a new type of appliance not currently covered or foreseen by the existing requirements. For this reason and due to the nature of the appliance as described, such new appliance can only be added to the standard with corresponding requirements (if needed) following a risk assessment in accordance with IEC guide 116.Such assessment does not appear to have been carried out.

There also seem to be some unclarities associated with the requirements as proposed. For example, cl. I appliances are allowed but there is no description of how the protective earth should be constructionally implemented. In the same way there is no indication whether live parts are allowed to be in contact with the liquid and possibly aspects of cl 22.33 need to be further taken into consideration.

The reference to standard "BS 1970" is

Delete the proposal Not accepted





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not appropriate. In case no IEC or ISO standard exist for reference, relevant parts of the referenced standard should be included as part of the proposal instead.

Additionally, requirements for a particular type of appliance should not be in an annex but instead be incorporated throughout the standard as relevant.

4 IT02 ge/te In the proposed document the BS standards are mentioned but this is not allowed in the IEC scheme. It is better to use the text of such BS standard and change it with the equivalent text to be added in this proposal.

Accepted to remove the reference to the BS standard or include its content into the proposal itself.

5 US01 ge It would be very helpful if the proposal included a picture or drawing of the appliance and some rationale for the choice in the requirements.

Provide more detailed rationale to help in reviewing the proposal

Noted. Further rationale was provided by the AU NC delegate during the meeting.

6 NO01 Title of the standard

ed Reflect this change in the title of the standard

Change the title to:“Particular requirements for foot warmers and, heating mats and hot water bottles”

See 2

7 US05 3.1.9 te What is normal operation for a hot water bottle? 3.1.9 is not included in the annex and the content of 3.1.9 in the body of the standard does not cover normal operation of this type of appliance.

These heaters are likely to be used under bedding materials, clothing, or similar coverings, so normal operation should take this into account similar to electrically heated bedding of IEC 60335-2-17 where the appliance is covered with test felt to trap heat.

Add 3.1.9 for hot water bottles

Electric hot water bottles are placed between sheets of thermal insulation as specified in Annex XX.

[Annex XX should be copied over from Annex AA of -2-17]

Accepted with the following wording

3.1.9 Addition:electric hot water bottles are operated with the bladder connected to the cradle and placed on the floor of the test corner during heating.





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Note to entry: The product is removed from the cradle for functional use.

It was also agreed that in the 2DC the word “charging” will be replaced by “during heating.”

In addition, it was agreed to modify the definition of cradle as follows:

AZ.3.104Cradledevice that incorporates the appliance inlet for attaching the electric hot water bottle to the supply during heatingNote to entry: The hot water bottle is removed from the cradle for functional use.

8 NL01 1-136 te Part 2-81 deals with 2 specific appliances only, that are only used for warming the feet: foot warmers and heating mats for warming the feet. Part 2-17 deals with flexible heating appliances that heat the human body in general. Furthermore part 2-17 already

Delete proposal.(with the recommendation to draft new proposal as a modification / addition to part 2-17)

Not accepted





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covers heating pads which are rather similar to electric hot water bottles.Therefore NLNC is of the opinion that this proposal should be part of part 2-17 instead of 2-81.

9 NL02 1-136 te If NL01 is not accepted:It does not make sense to put the requirements in an separate annex. For readability the requirements should be an integral part of the main text of part 2-81.

Delete proposal (with the recommendation to draft new proposal as a modification / addition to the main body of part 2-81)

Not accepted to delete the proposal, but the 2DC is to include the requirements in the main body of the standard.

10 NL03 1 ge If NL01 is not accepted:The title of part 2-81 should be changed to reflect the new scope of the standard.

Modify the title of part 2-81 as follows:Part 2-81: Particular requirements for electric foot warmers, heating mats and hot water bottles

See 2

11 NO02 6-136 ed In line with previous discussions regarding introduction of specific types of appliances in annexes, we propose to follow the same policy also for this proposal and instead introduce the requirements at the relevant places in the main body of the standard.

See 9

12 US02 Annex AZ te An annex is not necessary for adding a new product to the standard. These requirements should be incorporated into the body of the standard.

Relocate these requirements to the body of the standard

See 9

13 US03 Annex AZ te If US1 is not accepted -

Based on AZ.25.1, it appears that this Annex was written to cover a battery operated appliance. According to 6.1, 3.104 and 7.1, it may be rechargeable. Use of this Annex in combination with Annex B may be rather difficult, especially since no revisions to Annex B are suggested within this annex.

A revision to 5.17 is recommended to

1) Modify 5.17 to clarify how Annex AZ and Annex B are applied to this appliance.

Modify Annex AZ to align with the Part 1, 6th edition structure, where charging and operation when connected to the supply are covered by the main body and operation from the batteries is covered by Annex B.

Not accepted. Products covered by the proposal are not battery supplied.





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clarify how this Annex is to be applied with Annex B.

Additional revisions may also be necessary for this annex to clarify the applicable requirements from Annex B.

14 US04 ed The AZ prefix should not be included when the Annex is referring to an existing requirement in the main body of the standard. Similar to Annex B, the AZ prefix should only be used for new subclauses in the annex.

Remove AZ prefix from subclauses referring to existing requirements in the standard and add the following at after line 11:

The clause numbers in this Annex refer to the clause numbers in the main part of this standard that are modified or not applicable. Clauses that are additional to the clauses in the main part of this standard are identified by adding the Annex letter with the numbering starting at 1.

See 9

15 NO03 17 te We do not agree to make reference to a national standard.

Delete the reference. See 4

16 IT03 39 AZ.6.1 te The class I should not be allowed for these appliances because can be very dangerous in case a lack of insulation occurs.In general, the safety of the appliances should not be related to a Residual Current Device (RCD).

Delate class I. Not accepted

17 US06 41-46 AZ.7.1 te These items would be suitable as instructions instead of markings.

In addition, editorially, move 2nd and 3rd dash to the 2nd paragraph as these are all text of a marking/instruction and should be together with “the substance of the following”

AZ.7.12 The instructions for the appliance shall include the details of the composition of the contained liquid.

The instructions for the appliance shall include the substance of the following:

- Do not use while charging.- This appliance cannot be

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refilled.WARNING: Use a Residual Current Device (RCD) while charging.

18 CN01 52-53 AZ.11.8 te If the ambient temperature is 15 ℃, the maximum temperature is 45 + 15 = 60 ℃. If the ambient temperature is 25 ℃, the maximum temperature is 25 + 45 = 70 ℃.

It is suggested that the ambient temperature of the test should be 23 ± 2 ℃ or other suitable range in clause 5.7.

19 NO04 52-53 AZ.11.8 ed We assume all surfaces should be measured.

Change the text to:“The temperature rise of the bladder surface in contact with the floor of the test corner and the temperature rise of the upper any other surface of the bladder shall not exceed 45 K”

20 US07 54-56 AZ.11.8 te The time for the 10 inversions should be specified for consistency in testing. In addition, it should be stated that each inversion includes flipping the bottle 180° and returning it to its initial position.

After heating but before measurement of the temperature, the internal fluid shall be mixed by inverting the bladder 10 times within 20 s and then allowing one minute to settle before determining temperatures of the bladder. Each inversion shall consist of turning the bladder 180° from its operating position during the test and then returning it to is original operating position.

21 US08 57-65 AZ.16.3 te It is not understood why this modification is necessary. What if there is only one layer consisting of reinforced insulation or multiple layers that are considered to be reinforced insulation? There is currently nothing in the Annex that would prohibit reinforced insulation for Class II constructions of hot water bottles.

Because 16.3 is used as compliance criteria after other tests throughout the standard, it would be better if this were renumbered as 16.101 if it is not deleted as suggested.

Delete lines 57-65





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22 NO05 67 AZ.19.4 ed This sentence can be deleted, as it is already covered by part 1.

Delete line 67.

23 US09 70 AZ.19.13 te This should be 10°C below its boiling point.

Replace “K” with “°C”

24 NO06 72-76 AZ.22.7 te The actual text must be included, to make it possible for NCs to comment.

This also raises a general question: When a NC proposes a reference to “whatever standard”, are all the members of a committee supposed to purchase this standard to be able to comment on a proposal? We are of the opinion that this information shall be provided by the proposer.

25 US10 72-76 AZ.22.7 ge Not having access to this referenced standard, there is no way to comment on this test. Reference to an IEC or ISO standard is preferred or inclusion of the test within the standard.

Incorporate the test method within Annex AZ or refer to an IEC or ISO test method

26 NO07 84-86 AZ.22.102 te The actual text must be included, to make it possible for NCs to comment.

27 US11 85-86 AZ.22.102 ge Not having access to this referenced standard, there is no way to comment on this test. Reference to an IEC or ISO standard is preferred or inclusion of the test within the standard.

Incorporate the test method within Annex AZ or refer to an IEC or ISO test method

28 NO08 87-91 AZ.22.103 The text of the referenced procedure should be made available, so that NCs may be able to comment.

29 US12 92-93 AZ.22.104 te This annex assumes the product comes prefilled with a liquid and is not refillable by the user per AZ.22.104. Why is a refillable appliance excluded?

Delete lines 92-93

30 NO09 94-98 AZ.22.105 ge To understand this requirement, we Include a figure.





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propose a figure to be included.

31 US13 103-106 AZ23.101 te These statements are not necessary. The first sentence adds nothing to the test. The second sentence is common lab practice to test the worst case condition. The only normative text of this paragraph is the requirement to conduct the test on 2 samples at right angles to each other. This is covered by lines114-115


32 US14 111-112 AZ23.101 te It’s possible to twist an empty water bottle but more difficult to twist a filled bottle. The construction of the appliance may not allow for 360° of rotation.

Add the following to the end of this paragraph:

If the appliance construction does not allow for rotation through 360°, the rotation shall be the maximum rotation allowed by the construction of the appliance.

33 US15 116 AZ23.101 te If the construction is understood, the appliance is only energized when placed in its cradle, so this test cannot be performed with the appliance supplied at rated voltage

Delete line 116

34 US16 127-129 AZ.25.1 te The electric hot water bottle may be a Class I or II appliance according to AZ.6.1, which will have a supply cord or pins for insertion into socket outlets for connection of the appliance to the supply. It seems like this requirement is intended to require the functional part of the hot water bottle to be a battery operated appliance or to operate only when connected to the cradle.


Add

AZ.22.X Electric hot water bottles shall be battery-operated appliances or shall only be operable when connected to the cradle.

35 IT04 129 AZ.25.1 te The supply cord should not be longer than 60 cm in order to make sure that the hot water bottle can be used while charging.

Addition:The supply cord shall not be longer than 60 cm.

36 CA02 130-136 AZ.30 - ge This appears to be an abnormal test and would be better suited in clause 19.

Move the content of lines 131 to 134 to a new subclause “AZ.19.xxx”.





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Criteria in 19.13 would then apply, but lines 135 and 136 would need to be added as supplemental criteria.

Move the content of lines 135 and 136 into AZ.19.13 as follows:

During the test of 19.xxx, the bladder and cover shall not ignite or deform to such an extent that live parts become accessible to test probe B of IEC 61032 applied with a force of 10 N.

37 NO10 130-136 AZ.30.101 ed This seems to be more likely a clause 19-test.

Move the test to clause 19.

DECISION: To be determined; discussion of 61/6276A/INF to resume on comment 17 during the web meeting session on Monday 14 June 2021.

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43. IEC 603335-2-99: Particular requirements for appliances for commercial electric hoods 61/6174/CDV – Report of Voting 61/6291/RVC New EditionAlso taking into consideration 61(2021WebSeries-I/MT32)66The results of discussions will be recorded in 61/6291A/RVC




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Noted

2 AU01 Forward ed In the forward, It is not clear what edition to use if the latest edition of part 1 precludes use of older part twos.







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review.








or alternatively:





4 CH02 136 1 ed Wrong punctuation. Replace the semicolon at the end of the second dashed item with a full stop.

Accepted





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5 US01 Various(167, 173, 197, 203, 208, 210, 223, 225, 230, 233…

Various ed It is not clear why ‘hood’ was replaced by ‘appliance’ throughout the standard. It leads to some confusion, especially for a product that is intended for use over an appliance. It then becomes difficult to determine if the appliance is the hood or the appliance under the hood. See line 203-204 and 225 for example.

Change ‘appliance’ back to ‘hood’ Not accepted. It was confirmed the term “appliance” is needed as some of the products covered might not be hoods.

It was agreed to modify the NOTE in lines 203-204 as follows:

...the appliance is used at the same time with appliances burning gas or other fuels;

6 US02 203, 230, 231

ed Remove semicolon after appliance Replace ‘appliance;’ with ‘appliance’ Accepted

7 CH03 233 7.12.1 ed Wrong punctuation. Replace the semicolon at the end of the sixth dashed item with a full stop.

Accepted




9 CH04 271 11.2 ed Wrong punctuation. Insert a full stop between “appliance” and “Vessels”.

Accepted

10 DE01 271 11.2 ed The full stop behind appliance is missing. Add a in line 271 a full stop after “appliance”.

See 9

11 DE02 326 19.13 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020 but it was

Modify line 326 as follows: Accepted





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forgotten in the CDV. “shown in tTable 8 of 19.7.“

12 DK03 364-366 22.102 te The existing Note has been converted to normative text. However, the note is purely informative in nature and does not contain any requirements and is intended to explain the meaning of "trip free type".

Since this is explanatory and does not contain any requirements, it should not be part of the normative requirement but remain as a note.

Alternatively, a reference to the defined term in IEC 60730 may be given instead.

Delete the sentence starting in line 364-366 and reinstate the NOTE.

or





13 DE03 395-408 25.3 ed The proposal of the DC was accepted in the web-meetings 2020. In the CDV it was completely rewritten by the editorial group. That was done also for other commercial catering parts 2.Text of 61/6088/DC:“Remove the last sentence ‘Compliance is checked by inspection’.“

Text of the CDV:“Fixed hoods shall be constructed so that the supply cord can be connected after the hood has been installed in accordance with the instructions for installation.Appliances intended to be permanently connected to fixed wiring that are provided with cord anchorage and a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, shall allow the connection of the flexible cord after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the instructions.

To align part 2-99 with 2-37, 2-36 and the other commercial catering equipment modify lines 395 - 408 to read as follows:“Appliances with a mass greater than 40 kg, intended for permanent connection to fixed wiring and not provided with rollers, castors or similar means shall be constructed so that the connection can be done after the appliance has been installed in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions.

The connection to the fixed wiring of built-in appliances may be made before the appliance is installed.Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance.

Accepted





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Terminals for permanent connection of cables to fixed wiring may also be suitable for the type X attachment of a supply cord. In this case, a cord anchorage complying with 25.16 shall be fitted to the appliance. If the appliance is provided with a set of terminals allowing the connection of a flexible cord, they shall be suitable for the type X attachment of the cord. In both cases, the instructions shall give full particulars of the supply cord. If the appliance uses a type X attachment the instructions shall state the size and type of the supply cord to be used.”



14 CH05 425, 427

27.2 ed It is not clear whether the text in line 424 - 425 and the text in line 426 - 427 are related as “and” or “or”.


Accepted to add “and” at the end of line 427, and to remove in line 425 the full stop.

15 DK04 487-490 32.101 te This content has not been part of the previous proposal (61/6088/DC) or otherwise the related discussion (61/6108A/INF) and therefore cannot be added without a separate proposal and associated technical discussions.

Delete line 487-490 of the proposal Not accepted. The origin comes from line 32 in 61/6088/DC (the origin of the CDV). EG1 considered that this text (in line 32) would cause confusion about the application of test probe 18. To avoid this it was





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considered that the only clause in part 2-65 that was needed to be specifically referenced was 32.101. The reference was dated because part 2-65 was still to be aligned with Part 1 Ed.6. For that reason, it was introduced at the CDV stage as it was considered to be useful and necessary. At the plenary meeting, all NCs agreed with the reasons for the introduction of the requirement in clause 32.



Not accepted

DECISION: Proceed to FDIS for second edition. In addition, with regard to the reference to 60335-2-65 in clause 32, the origin comes from line 32 in 61/6088/DC (the origin of the CDV). EG1 considered that this text (in line 32) would cause confusion about the application of test probe 18. To avoid this, it was considered that the only clause in part 2-65 that was needed to be specifically referenced was 32.101. The reference was dated because part 2-65 was still to be aligned with Part 1 Ed.6. For that reason, it was introduced at the CDV stage as it was considered to be useful and necessary. At the plenary meeting, all NCs agreed with the reasons for the introduction of the requirement in clause 32.

For all FDIS where there was no confirmation at the CDV stage regarding the In Some Countries notes, a Note of the Secretary will be included to draw NCs to identify any In Some Countries notes needing to be retained in the next edition.


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