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Page 1: Forensic Medicine -Crime Scene-€¦ · Inès Lxxx DCEM1 Toulouse Purpan medical school March 21 st 2012 Forensic Medicine-Crime Scene-

Inès LxxxDCEM1

Toulouse Purpan medical schoolMarch 21st 2012

Forensic Medicine-Crime Scene-

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Overview

� Scene of a crime

� Us, doctors

� Medical examiner

� Pathologists

� Biologists

� Perfect crime /

http://forensicmed.webnode.com/science

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Scene of a crime� Attack of a person

� Wounds

� Dead bodies

http://forensicmed.webnode.com/science/

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Us, doctors� Call authorities

� Death certificate

� Death time

� Legal responsibility

� Identifying the type of wounds http://forensicmed.webnode.com/science/

� Identifying the most common causes of death

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Crime specialists� France/ China

�“Forensic physician”

� Anatomo-pathologist specialized in forensic medicine

� UK/USA

� Medical examiner

�Forensic pathologist

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Medical examiner� Medical examiner, coroner (UK/USA)

� USA: different jurisdictions and requirements

� Autopsy

� Identification Same duties

� Precise death time

morbidanatomy.blogspot.com

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Medical examiner (“forensic physician”)

� France: �Medical background & degree

� Independent from justice

� Judicial requisitioning: autopsy

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�Work on the living

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Forensic pathologists

France USA/UK

� Laboratory only� Autopsy (20%)� +/- Cause of death

(toxicology) � Legal context� Work on the living

� Crime scenes� Autopsy +++� Cause of death� Identification� Legal context� No living

Anglo-Saxons: network+++ with forensic science & police

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Biologists� Serology

� Bacteriology

� Parasitologytoxicology.uk.com

� Toxicology

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Others� Odontology

� Psychiatry

� Researchers

Burned body

zahnaerzte.ch/doc/doc.cfm.com

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Forensic science� Linked with forensic medicine

� Genetics, dermatoglyphics

� Anthropology, biology

� Criminology, ballisticsreconstruction.eserver.org

� Careful: misused danger!

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Perfect crime� Perfect weapon?

� No DNA

� No finger/foot prints

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� Decomposition of the body +++

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Take home message� Our usefulness on crime scenes

� Difference between French & Anglo-Saxons

� Forensic science: is there a perfect crime?

� Reality is quite different from TV shows

Thank you for your attention!!!

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Bibliography� http://forensicmed.webnode.com/pathology/mechanisms-

of-death/

� http://www.ethique.inserm.fr/inserm/ethique.nsf/0f4d0071608efcebc125709d00532b6f/aa8d83971b56592dc12570a500515362/$FILE/r%C3%A9sum%C3%A9%20par%20D.Coic.pdf

� http://www.zahnaerzte.ch/doc/doc_download.cfm?uuid=8823C827D9D9424C492DA60EAD371C9D

� http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broadband/tx/perfectmurder/highlights/

� http://www.forensicpathologist.com/