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Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
100:00:15,740 --> 00:00:21,239[Music]
200:00:27,309 --> 00:00:35,269little brother has taken control
300:00:30,699 --> 00:00:44,479shoveling dirt every whore predators to
400:00:35,270 --> 00:00:48,080him your soul watching you misunderstood
500:00:44,479 --> 00:00:51,169and so frustrated a million armies of
600:00:48,079 --> 00:00:54,399one have invaded watching you and
700:00:51,170 --> 00:00:54,399watching me
800:01:01,100 --> 00:01:04,939we'll be long
900:01:05,930 --> 00:01:09,189[Music]
1000:01:16,439 --> 00:01:19,548[Music]
1100:01:24,900 --> 00:01:31,200little brother wants to make headlines
1200:01:27,189 --> 00:01:31,200be immortalized
1300:01:31,930 --> 00:01:37,590everyone's got an electric eye we're at
1400:01:34,510 --> 00:01:37,590the Digital spy's
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
1500:01:38,159 --> 00:01:45,840[Music]
1600:01:53,250 --> 00:01:56,379[Applause]
1700:02:00,469 --> 00:02:07,459[Applause]
1800:02:03,438 --> 00:02:10,939we the people have taken over we the
1900:02:07,459 --> 00:02:16,900people of the top brother standing by to
2000:02:10,939 --> 00:02:16,900throne each other watching you and watch
2100:02:19,900 --> 00:02:25,610desensitizing of us pretension
2200:02:22,689 --> 00:02:29,759democratize by a boy or obsessions
2300:02:25,610 --> 00:02:31,379watching you and watching me
2400:02:29,759 --> 00:02:34,378super
2500:02:31,378 --> 00:02:34,378don't
2600:02:36,180 --> 00:02:40,990[Music]
2700:02:37,509 --> 00:02:40,989every flaw
2800:02:41,889 --> 00:02:45,019[Music]
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00:02:47,050 --> 00:02:56,330[Music]
3000:02:58,949 --> 00:03:03,179[Music]
3100:03:01,259 --> 00:03:06,739little brother wants to make headlines
3200:03:03,180 --> 00:03:06,739fear martyr
3300:03:07,620 --> 00:03:12,370everyone's got an electric eye we're at
3400:03:10,530 --> 00:03:22,460the Digital Spy
3500:03:12,370 --> 00:03:22,460[Music]
3600:03:38,379 --> 00:03:41,568[Music]
3700:03:51,139 --> 00:03:58,568[Music]
3800:03:55,729 --> 00:03:58,568Wow
3900:03:59,990 --> 00:04:06,000totalitarian state a thousand eyes of
4000:04:03,240 --> 00:04:11,540waiting for you to break and stay in
4100:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,539line don't make a mistake we're watching
4200:04:25,189 --> 00:04:30,098[Music]
4300:04:36,930 --> 00:04:42,480
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
[Applause]
4400:04:39,379 --> 00:04:42,480[Music]
4500:04:52,329 --> 00:04:55,439[Music]
4600:05:00,860 --> 00:05:07,050[Music]
4700:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,570[Applause]
4800:05:07,050 --> 00:05:11,090[Music]
4900:05:10,569 --> 00:05:13,009[Applause]
5000:05:11,089 --> 00:05:17,359[Music]
5100:05:13,009 --> 00:05:20,539[Applause]
5200:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,540[Music]
5300:05:20,600 --> 00:05:32,260[Applause]
5400:05:28,180 --> 00:05:34,819but your experience begin right now
5500:05:32,259 --> 00:05:36,740from high atop the mountains of British
5600:05:34,819 --> 00:05:37,219Columbia to you listening around the
5700:05:36,740 --> 00:05:40,460world
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
5800:05:37,220 --> 00:05:42,790this is spaced-out radio you can follow
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6700:06:10,819 --> 00:06:14,800we break on commanders women
6800:06:14,930 --> 00:06:20,519buckle up space travelers it's time to
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7100:07:01,730 --> 00:07:04,819[Applause]
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
7200:07:14,870 --> 00:07:19,269you
7300:07:15,779 --> 00:07:19,269[Music]
7400:07:26,329 --> 00:07:28,389you
7500:07:43,790 --> 00:07:48,360good evening and welcome to spaced out
7600:07:46,259 --> 00:07:50,039radio tonight I am your host Dave Scott
7700:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,889and thank you for listening in at
7800:07:50,040 --> 00:07:55,560spaced-out radio calm on speaker and now
7900:07:52,889 --> 00:07:57,389on revolution radio we welcome you to
8000:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,980tonight's show as we broadcast out of
8100:07:57,389 --> 00:08:00,899Uncle Jim Beau's cabin in the great
8200:07:58,980 --> 00:08:02,790white north live on this Tuesday night
8300:08:00,899 --> 00:08:04,889early Wednesday morning if you're on the
8400:08:02,790 --> 00:08:06,360East Coast here at spaced out radio we
8500:08:04,889 --> 00:08:08,699are broadcasting three hours a night
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9000:08:14,610 --> 00:08:19,170conspiratorial and so much more
9100:08:17,910 --> 00:08:21,210here at spaced out radio we are
9200:08:19,170 --> 00:08:22,680broadcasting three hours a night seven
9300:08:21,209 --> 00:08:25,949days a week because we want to be your
9400:08:22,680 --> 00:08:28,199official one-stop shop as we continue on
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Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
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Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
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Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
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00:10:08,549 --> 00:10:12,679multitude of stories that have come from
14400:10:10,470 --> 00:10:14,970experiencers who have had run-ins with
14500:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,649extraterrestrials is literally in the
14600:10:14,970 --> 00:10:18,540hundreds of thousands annually and
14700:10:16,649 --> 00:10:20,490that's just from people who have
14800:10:18,539 --> 00:10:22,969mentioned their incredible encounter
14900:10:20,490 --> 00:10:25,589think about this statistic for a minute
15000:10:22,970 --> 00:10:27,360people in the field of ufology figure
15100:10:25,589 --> 00:10:29,579that only one out of every ten
15200:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,759encounters ever gets reported or told
15300:10:29,578 --> 00:10:35,458one out of every ten that's not a high
15400:10:32,759 --> 00:10:36,870number of reports and then when you go
15500:10:35,458 --> 00:10:38,458and throw in the knowledge that people
15600:10:36,870 --> 00:10:40,560have like our guest tonight raesha
15700:10:38,458 --> 00:10:43,319
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
Manske then it opens up a whole
15800:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,119different field for the experiencer ray
15900:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,550is a man with over 40 years of research
16000:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,379and work experience including working at
16100:10:47,549 --> 00:10:51,838the infamous wright-patterson Air Force
16200:10:49,379 --> 00:10:53,970Base in Ohio and how many times his
16300:10:51,839 --> 00:10:56,430wright-patt seem to come up on this show
16400:10:53,970 --> 00:11:00,000over the last year think about that his
16500:10:56,429 --> 00:11:02,069book is called 50 shades of Gray's as we
16600:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,679get into the et phenomenon pretty hard
16700:11:02,070 --> 00:11:06,449tonight we welcome in Rachel Manske
16800:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,099welcome to spaced out radio for the
16900:11:06,448 --> 00:11:11,189first time good to have you with us how
17000:11:08,100 --> 00:11:12,680are you I'm awesome Dave thanks for
17100:11:11,190 --> 00:11:15,420having me really appreciate it I
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
17200:11:12,679 --> 00:11:18,989appreciate you taking the time to be
17300:11:15,419 --> 00:11:23,159with us because I think your topic of
17400:11:18,990 --> 00:11:26,190study is so important and it is so well
17500:11:23,159 --> 00:11:29,639documented in your own personal notes
17600:11:26,190 --> 00:11:32,490and your own personal research that I'm
17700:11:29,639 --> 00:11:34,649really surprised ray that everybody
17800:11:32,490 --> 00:11:38,818hasn't run out there and grabbed your
17900:11:34,649 --> 00:11:41,159book now being a former employee of
18000:11:38,818 --> 00:11:43,349wright-patterson I do know this from a
18100:11:41,159 --> 00:11:46,289former guest of ours who was a fire
18200:11:43,350 --> 00:11:48,480fired firefighter pardon me in the
18300:11:46,289 --> 00:11:49,980vicinity about 50 miles away and he has
18400:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,750friends who've been fire fighters at
18500:11:49,980 --> 00:11:54,089wright-patt and one of the scariest
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
18600:11:51,750 --> 00:11:57,269stories he ever told me his name's Jim
18700:11:54,089 --> 00:11:59,699Patrick and one of the scariest stories
18800:11:57,269 --> 00:12:01,698he ever told me Ray was that his
18900:11:59,698 --> 00:12:05,879firefighter buddies at wright-patt
19000:12:01,698 --> 00:12:08,669basically told them that the military
19100:12:05,879 --> 00:12:09,389has so many rules there for instance
19200:12:08,669 --> 00:12:11,610there's
19300:12:09,389 --> 00:12:13,409certain buildings that if they start
19400:12:11,610 --> 00:12:15,899burning no matter if there's people
19500:12:13,409 --> 00:12:18,179screaming in it or whatever the
19600:12:15,899 --> 00:12:21,029firefighters are to make that building
19700:12:18,179 --> 00:12:23,429burn or let it burn do not put it out do
19800:12:21,029 --> 00:12:23,819not rescue anybody in there just let it
19900:12:23,429 --> 00:12:25,620burn
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00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:30,150that's an eerie place my friend right
20100:12:25,620 --> 00:12:34,710Pat I have never heard that before
20200:12:30,149 --> 00:12:38,579and quite frankly I would call that rule
20300:12:34,710 --> 00:12:40,860into question and and in fact now that
20400:12:38,580 --> 00:12:44,730you've brought up such a very strange
20500:12:40,860 --> 00:12:45,960and outrageous rule in my brain I'm
20600:12:44,730 --> 00:12:49,590probably going to have to research it
20700:12:45,960 --> 00:12:51,330with people that I know that work in the
20800:12:49,590 --> 00:12:53,790first responders area at
20900:12:51,330 --> 00:12:56,190wright-patterson that's just you know a
21000:12:53,789 --> 00:12:58,049claim that I have a lot of difficulty
21100:12:56,190 --> 00:13:00,420getting my head around you know right at
21200:12:58,049 --> 00:13:02,069this moment well that's part of the
21300:13:00,419 --> 00:13:04,379reason why we have you on here so that
21400:13:02,070 --> 00:13:06,629
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
way we can clean some of this up whether
21500:13:04,379 --> 00:13:09,029it's true whether it's not it's worth
21600:13:06,629 --> 00:13:11,370investigating because it does add to the
21700:13:09,029 --> 00:13:14,939mystery if there is a mystery there and
21800:13:11,370 --> 00:13:17,519wright-patterson is filled with a lot of
21900:13:14,940 --> 00:13:22,350mystery tell us about your history with
22000:13:17,519 --> 00:13:27,960wright-patterson well I arrived on a
22100:13:22,350 --> 00:13:30,060very dreary day in January of 1973 I was
22200:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,220a young cooperative education student
22300:13:30,059 --> 00:13:34,529from the University of Detroit and as a
22400:13:32,220 --> 00:13:35,970shout-out to them i wouldn't be where i
22500:13:34,529 --> 00:13:38,129was at today without their fine
22600:13:35,970 --> 00:13:40,170education so we were going to do this
22700:13:38,129 --> 00:13:41,939work study where we work on a base for
22800:13:40,169 --> 00:13:43,709three months come back to school for
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22900:13:41,940 --> 00:13:45,450three months we were alternate for two
23000:13:43,710 --> 00:13:47,790years and at the end of those two years
23100:13:45,450 --> 00:13:49,500there'd be a decision made did I still
23200:13:47,789 --> 00:13:50,449want to work there and or would they
23300:13:49,500 --> 00:13:54,600offer me a job
23400:13:50,450 --> 00:13:57,000so it's January of 1973 I'm assigned to
23500:13:54,600 --> 00:13:59,430the management operations office which
23600:13:57,000 --> 00:14:03,960is an area B and at the time it was
23700:13:59,429 --> 00:14:07,469building 22 and I was assigned to a
23800:14:03,960 --> 00:14:11,129gentlemen who I mentioned in my book
23900:14:07,470 --> 00:14:13,950because of his importance in my life and
24000:14:11,129 --> 00:14:15,720my interest in UFOs so the very first
24100:14:13,950 --> 00:14:18,420week he said come on we're going to go
24200:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,950across the hangar we were in a small
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24300:14:18,419 --> 00:14:22,569two-story building and there was a
24400:14:19,950 --> 00:14:24,759hangar in between us and the
24500:14:22,570 --> 00:14:26,950side which was also a two-story like a
24600:14:24,759 --> 00:14:30,009management building so we're cutting
24700:14:26,950 --> 00:14:34,090through the hangar and he says have you
24800:14:30,009 --> 00:14:35,919heard about her aliens and you know I'm
24900:14:34,090 --> 00:14:39,610away from home for the very first time
25000:14:35,919 --> 00:14:41,740I'm 19 years old and I'm thinking aliens
25100:14:39,610 --> 00:14:44,129I wasn't even sure what he was talking
25200:14:41,740 --> 00:14:46,779about and I said we have aliens and
25300:14:44,129 --> 00:14:49,149we're in the middle of this cavernous
25400:14:46,779 --> 00:14:51,639empty hangar which is a hundred and
25500:14:49,149 --> 00:14:53,379fifty feet at length and has got to be a
25600:14:51,639 --> 00:14:56,649hundred foot in width which is now the
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00:14:53,379 --> 00:14:57,789right-field fitness center so we're
25800:14:56,649 --> 00:15:00,129walking through and I go
25900:14:57,789 --> 00:15:02,769we have aliens and he said you know we
26000:15:00,129 --> 00:15:05,379have aliens in the tunnels you know he's
26100:15:02,769 --> 00:15:07,210like upping the ante and I go we have
26200:15:05,379 --> 00:15:11,259tunnels he said I've got aliens and the
26300:15:07,210 --> 00:15:14,230tunnels so I said well can we go see
26400:15:11,259 --> 00:15:17,080these aliens in the tunnels well no you
26500:15:14,230 --> 00:15:20,740know it's a secret well if the secret
26600:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,180how do you know about it well everybody
26700:15:20,740 --> 00:15:25,600on base knows about it
26800:15:22,179 --> 00:15:28,269and I thought hey what's his definition
26900:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,310of secret you know ten thousand people
27000:15:28,269 --> 00:15:31,899ten thousand civilians on the base plus
27100:15:30,309 --> 00:15:34,479
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probably at that time twelve thousand
27200:15:31,899 --> 00:15:36,699military you know what's he talking
27300:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,590about so you know he tells me a little
27400:15:36,700 --> 00:15:39,940bit about the history and I kept saying
27500:15:38,590 --> 00:15:42,190the word secret and I think the third
27600:15:39,940 --> 00:15:43,690time I said the word secret I must have
27700:15:42,190 --> 00:15:44,380scared him and he goes you know that's
27800:15:43,690 --> 00:15:46,000enough for now
27900:15:44,379 --> 00:15:49,960I think we need to go back to work let's
28000:15:46,000 --> 00:15:52,210grab our candy bar so back in 1973 is
28100:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,879when I got all excited about aliens and
28200:15:52,210 --> 00:15:56,590tunnels in wright-patterson and little
28300:15:54,879 --> 00:15:59,639by little I learned you know that this
28400:15:56,590 --> 00:16:02,649was basically embedded in the culture
28500:15:59,639 --> 00:16:06,879that's a mystery that has really been
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28600:16:02,649 --> 00:16:08,740there since the Roswell crash and I like
28700:16:06,879 --> 00:16:11,019to think of it as there was a secondary
28800:16:08,740 --> 00:16:13,350crash there at San Agustin and we're
28900:16:11,019 --> 00:16:16,840gonna get into that later on in the show
29000:16:13,350 --> 00:16:18,159but apparently the rumor has it that
29100:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,889when the crash happened
29200:16:18,159 --> 00:16:22,990at Corona and New Mexico they shipped
29300:16:20,889 --> 00:16:24,759the ship and the bodies to
29400:16:22,990 --> 00:16:27,340wright-patterson Air Force Base before
29500:16:24,759 --> 00:16:29,139sending them over to area 51 was that
29600:16:27,340 --> 00:16:31,590ever talked about around there or was
29700:16:29,139 --> 00:16:33,759the whole subject of Roswell UFOs
29800:16:31,590 --> 00:16:36,129extraterrestrials besides this one
29900:16:33,759 --> 00:16:41,500incident kept very quiet
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30000:16:36,129 --> 00:16:43,240no in fact even to this day the
30100:16:41,500 --> 00:16:46,409connection between wright-patterson Air
30200:16:43,240 --> 00:16:50,409Force Base and extraterrestrials and UFO
30300:16:46,409 --> 00:16:52,240permeates virtually every employee on
30400:16:50,409 --> 00:16:55,809the base and I'll tell you we'll get
30500:16:52,240 --> 00:16:58,240back to how I know that to be a fact but
30600:16:55,809 --> 00:16:59,500I think as most of the listeners were
30700:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,590know and we'll bring up some of the
30800:16:59,500 --> 00:17:05,769newbies up to speed in 1947 there was
30900:17:02,590 --> 00:17:08,980reputedly a crash at Corona New Mexico
31000:17:05,769 --> 00:17:13,230about 70 miles north of Roswell New
31100:17:08,980 --> 00:17:16,750Mexico where the only nuclear-armed
31200:17:13,230 --> 00:17:18,400bombing group in the world we're living
31300:17:16,750 --> 00:17:21,789and working at the time the five-o ninth
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00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:24,670Bomb Group so a rancher by the name of a
31500:17:21,789 --> 00:17:27,459Mac Brazel comes into town brings this
31600:17:24,670 --> 00:17:29,710crazy-looking silvery material into the
31700:17:27,459 --> 00:17:32,200sheriff's office the sheriff says you
31800:17:29,710 --> 00:17:35,319know let's contact the air force base so
31900:17:32,200 --> 00:17:37,630they do and Jesse Marcel and ceratin
32000:17:35,319 --> 00:17:39,069Cavett go with the rancher the next day
32100:17:37,630 --> 00:17:40,660they go out to this place
32200:17:39,069 --> 00:17:43,240you know 70 miles in the middle of
32300:17:40,660 --> 00:17:45,720nowhere north of Roswell collect the
32400:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,910stuff and in a car and drive it back and
32500:17:45,720 --> 00:17:51,579the Colonel Blanchard who was in charge
32600:17:48,910 --> 00:17:54,009of the Roswell Army Airfield at time
32700:17:51,579 --> 00:17:55,599said hey guys you know using my
32800:17:54,009 --> 00:17:57,549
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intelligence officers what do you think
32900:17:55,599 --> 00:17:59,319this is and I said we've never seen
33000:17:57,549 --> 00:18:00,129anything like this you know it could be
33100:17:59,319 --> 00:18:03,490a spacecraft
33200:18:00,130 --> 00:18:07,450so Colonel Blanchard in his inimitable
33300:18:03,490 --> 00:18:09,370wisdom had Walter Haut take the story
33400:18:07,450 --> 00:18:12,220and pass it out to the world and that
33500:18:09,369 --> 00:18:14,639said you know the the Army Air Force has
33600:18:12,220 --> 00:18:18,670got has captured a crashed disc
33700:18:14,640 --> 00:18:20,080well that literally shut down all the
33800:18:18,670 --> 00:18:22,930communication channel because now the
33900:18:20,079 --> 00:18:25,210world is dependent upon the 509 and
34000:18:22,930 --> 00:18:26,860Roswell and they want to know what's
34100:18:25,210 --> 00:18:29,950going on and they're calling Washington
34200:18:26,859 --> 00:18:31,809DC so immediately within 24 hours the
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34300:18:29,950 --> 00:18:33,610powers that be said you know we need to
34400:18:31,809 --> 00:18:35,740back off of the story because we're not
34500:18:33,609 --> 00:18:37,959going to get any real work done so they
34600:18:35,740 --> 00:18:39,940published a news story that said oh it
34700:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,009was just a weather balloon which is of
34800:18:39,940 --> 00:18:46,210course funny to those of us who've been
34900:18:42,009 --> 00:18:48,180reading about this topic for the last 40
35000:18:46,210 --> 00:18:49,929years because that's been their
35100:18:48,180 --> 00:18:52,269rationale for everything
35200:18:49,929 --> 00:18:54,429it was a weather balloon but the thing
35300:18:52,269 --> 00:18:57,329that everybody needs to understand is is
35400:18:54,429 --> 00:19:00,190in the middle of the story you have this
35500:18:57,329 --> 00:19:03,339unimpeachable source that was uncovered
35600:19:00,190 --> 00:19:07,149by Stanton Friedman and Devyn peaceable
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35700:19:03,339 --> 00:19:08,980source yes Jesse Marcel jesse was the
35800:19:07,148 --> 00:19:11,859intelligence officer for the five or
35900:19:08,980 --> 00:19:14,200ninth Bomb Group as far as I can tell
36000:19:11,859 --> 00:19:16,118and the rest of the UFO historians can
36100:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,249tell he was pretty much up on everything
36200:19:16,118 --> 00:19:19,928that was in the air at the time and he
36300:19:18,249 --> 00:19:22,629went on record saying I think there's a
36400:19:19,929 --> 00:19:24,51978 or 79 when he first came out with the
36500:19:22,628 --> 00:19:28,959proclamation and an interview with
36600:19:24,519 --> 00:19:31,388Stanton he said what we recovered was
36700:19:28,960 --> 00:19:35,860not a weather balloon it was not of this
36800:19:31,388 --> 00:19:37,689planet and by the way I was ordered to
36900:19:35,859 --> 00:19:40,329escort this stuff make sure it got to
37000:19:37,690 --> 00:19:42,548wright-patterson Air Force Base so if we
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00:19:40,329 --> 00:19:45,609believe Jesse Marcel there are two
37200:19:42,548 --> 00:19:49,118things that you can take to the bank one
37300:19:45,609 --> 00:19:50,949it was not a weather balloon and two the
37400:19:49,118 --> 00:19:53,709material went to wright-patterson Air
37500:19:50,950 --> 00:19:55,298Force Base that being said you got to
37600:19:53,710 --> 00:19:57,730ask himself the question why
37700:19:55,298 --> 00:19:59,980wright-patterson well in 1947
37800:19:57,730 --> 00:20:02,259wright-patterson Air Force Base was the
37900:19:59,980 --> 00:20:04,778center of the aeronautical engineering
38000:20:02,259 --> 00:20:06,519universe so if anything fell out of the
38100:20:04,778 --> 00:20:08,470sky and we want to know more about it
38200:20:06,519 --> 00:20:10,868you would take it to a place like
38300:20:08,470 --> 00:20:13,089wright-patterson because they had the
38400:20:10,868 --> 00:20:16,689scientists there they had money they had
38500:20:13,089 --> 00:20:19,178
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facilities they had secrecy oaths they
38600:20:16,690 --> 00:20:21,070had equipment they needed amps they had
38700:20:19,179 --> 00:20:23,740everything you absolutely needed to at
38800:20:21,069 --> 00:20:26,230least initially evaluate what you have
38900:20:23,740 --> 00:20:31,628and kind of sorted into a bin it's ours
39000:20:26,230 --> 00:20:36,579it's not ours well also there was from
39100:20:31,628 --> 00:20:38,4691947 on to 1969 were projects that the
39200:20:36,579 --> 00:20:41,349Air Force said were for the
39300:20:38,470 --> 00:20:43,079investigation of just these types of
39400:20:41,349 --> 00:20:46,048incidents and there was project sign
39500:20:43,079 --> 00:20:52,599project grudge and plot project Bluebook
39600:20:46,048 --> 00:20:53,769so they had from 1947 to 1969 the
39700:20:52,599 --> 00:20:55,569projects were housed there
39800:20:53,769 --> 00:20:58,839wright-patterson and this was widely
39900:20:55,569 --> 00:21:01,450dhawan everybody knew that the woowoo
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40000:20:58,839 --> 00:21:03,289stuff in UFOs and ETS were based at
40100:21:01,450 --> 00:21:08,210wright-patterson Air Force Base
40200:21:03,289 --> 00:21:11,269that permeated the entire population of
40300:21:08,210 --> 00:21:14,269the base so no matter who I asked about
40400:21:11,269 --> 00:21:17,059the initial week of my indoctrination we
40500:21:14,269 --> 00:21:18,889have aliens in the tunnels everyone to a
40600:21:17,059 --> 00:21:22,069person said yeah we all know about that
40700:21:18,890 --> 00:21:24,259stuff so long history unimpeachable
40800:21:22,069 --> 00:21:26,329sources no doubt in my mind that
40900:21:24,259 --> 00:21:30,619wright-patterson Air Force Base handled
41000:21:26,329 --> 00:21:31,970that recovered material early in the
41100:21:30,619 --> 00:21:34,250evaluation process
41200:21:31,970 --> 00:21:35,960great what is the security like at
41300:21:34,250 --> 00:21:37,849wright-patterson when it comes to topics
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41400:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,710like this and the reason why I bring
41500:21:37,849 --> 00:21:42,139that up is I have a very good friend of
41600:21:39,710 --> 00:21:43,819mine in Las Vegas who's lived there a
41700:21:42,140 --> 00:21:47,270long time he's part of the rock and roll
41800:21:43,819 --> 00:21:50,629scene there and in the rock and roll
41900:21:47,269 --> 00:21:53,359scene they talk about aliens they talked
42000:21:50,630 --> 00:21:56,420about the paranormal I never really knew
42100:21:53,359 --> 00:22:01,129that much until he filled me in and one
42200:21:56,420 --> 00:22:03,259day curiosity got to him and he waited
42300:22:01,130 --> 00:22:07,280for one of the Janet Jets at McCarran
42400:22:03,259 --> 00:22:10,609International Air Field to unload and he
42500:22:07,279 --> 00:22:12,829followed one of the people home and by
42600:22:10,609 --> 00:22:14,779the time he turned around to get back
42700:22:12,829 --> 00:22:17,649onto the street to get back towards his
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00:22:14,779 --> 00:22:19,879house he was surrounded by black SUVs
42900:22:17,650 --> 00:22:21,140basically telling them that if he didn't
43000:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,780want to go to jail for the rest of his
43100:22:21,140 --> 00:22:26,900life never do that again
43200:22:23,779 --> 00:22:30,399never feed that curiosity is it pretty
43300:22:26,900 --> 00:22:34,100much the same like that at wright-patt I
43400:22:30,400 --> 00:22:37,700never felt that but you know there were
43500:22:34,099 --> 00:22:41,109buildings on the base where I'm sure
43600:22:37,700 --> 00:22:44,080there were programs that probably had
43700:22:41,109 --> 00:22:46,609equal if not higher security
43800:22:44,079 --> 00:22:48,799requirements than the project I work and
43900:22:46,609 --> 00:22:50,509I can tell you that you know I worked in
44000:22:48,799 --> 00:22:53,059building 6 2000 wright-patterson Air
44100:22:50,509 --> 00:22:54,980Force Base and that is a highly secure
44200:22:53,059 --> 00:22:57,679
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building you know first you have to get
44300:22:54,980 --> 00:23:00,049on the base so it requires a pass and
44400:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,730you know they can use your chip reader
44500:23:00,049 --> 00:23:05,750and determine you know if it's a valid
44600:23:01,730 --> 00:23:08,690card then you need a other mm-hmm
44700:23:05,750 --> 00:23:11,029authorization to use a card either that
44800:23:08,690 --> 00:23:13,850one or a second card to get into a
44900:23:11,029 --> 00:23:16,309building and in fact building 620 is
45000:23:13,849 --> 00:23:16,869such a controlled building you had card
45100:23:16,309 --> 00:23:22,899readers
45200:23:16,869 --> 00:23:25,629then if you were on a project that
45300:23:22,900 --> 00:23:27,790required that you might work in a vault
45400:23:25,630 --> 00:23:30,190and of course know through the course of
45500:23:27,789 --> 00:23:34,389my career especially early on I actually
45600:23:30,190 --> 00:23:36,940worked in a vault so only certain
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45700:23:34,390 --> 00:23:41,020individuals were allowed interest into
45800:23:36,940 --> 00:23:45,850the vault and in in some cases only the
45900:23:41,019 --> 00:23:48,430boss had the code to get in so you know
46000:23:45,849 --> 00:23:50,049we'd all sit there waiting for the boss
46100:23:48,430 --> 00:23:52,058to show up and he'd open up the vault in
46200:23:50,049 --> 00:23:54,220the morning now you could get out and
46300:23:52,058 --> 00:23:56,470you know because they had you know the
46400:23:54,220 --> 00:23:58,539fire thing anyone could could leave the
46500:23:56,470 --> 00:24:00,308vault at any time but then there was a
46600:23:58,539 --> 00:24:01,928certain protocol for getting back in
46700:24:00,308 --> 00:24:03,460during the day during the working you
46800:24:01,929 --> 00:24:05,950had to go to the bathroom or you know
46900:24:03,460 --> 00:24:09,039make a phone call there are other
47000:24:05,950 --> 00:24:12,490facilities there that are even more
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47100:24:09,039 --> 00:24:15,220complex you know to get into the vault
47200:24:12,490 --> 00:24:17,890you would need a third card or you know
47300:24:15,220 --> 00:24:23,558a more access and then you know it could
47400:24:17,890 --> 00:24:25,780be nested from there so what I think
47500:24:23,558 --> 00:24:27,819your friend encountered was some
47600:24:25,779 --> 00:24:29,769counterintelligence people they want to
47700:24:27,819 --> 00:24:31,960make sure that certain individuals
47800:24:29,769 --> 00:24:33,308working at area 51 or wherever that
47900:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,650plane was coming bad form
48000:24:33,308 --> 00:24:36,910wouldn't be followed so you know they're
48100:24:35,650 --> 00:24:38,860being observed and their
48200:24:36,910 --> 00:24:40,630counterintelligence folks and they
48300:24:38,859 --> 00:24:42,219caught your friend snooping and doing
48400:24:40,630 --> 00:24:44,559something which he really shouldn't been
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00:24:42,220 --> 00:24:47,049doing does that happen in wright-patt
48600:24:44,558 --> 00:24:48,700never happened to me so I can't tell you
48700:24:47,049 --> 00:24:52,720but I can tell you that there are some
48800:24:48,700 --> 00:24:55,090very very secure places on that base how
48900:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,039much of it is underground how much is it
49000:24:55,089 --> 00:25:00,480that people can't see because that's
49100:24:57,039 --> 00:25:02,859probably where all the action is right
49200:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,799you know I couldn't answer that question
49300:25:02,859 --> 00:25:08,229there are tunnels and vaults vaults and
49400:25:05,799 --> 00:25:09,789tunnels every building pretty much has a
49500:25:08,230 --> 00:25:12,339basement you know unless it's sitting on
49600:25:09,789 --> 00:25:14,139the water table there are vaults on the
49700:25:12,339 --> 00:25:16,77914th floor there are vault in the
49800:25:14,140 --> 00:25:18,670basement you know I can't name a floor
49900:25:16,779 --> 00:25:22,149
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that I couldn't find a vault in in you
50000:25:18,670 --> 00:25:25,090know certain buildings just today I had
50100:25:22,150 --> 00:25:27,400a discussion with somebody from the
50200:25:25,089 --> 00:25:30,289National Park Service we have a place
50300:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,360called Huffman
50400:25:30,289 --> 00:25:36,200and it's where the Wright brothers
50500:25:32,359 --> 00:25:38,359perfected their flying in 1904 1905 and
50600:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,220it's run by the National Park Service
50700:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,109now and every once in a while they'll
50800:25:40,220 --> 00:25:43,970reel out a replica of the Wright Flyer
50900:25:42,109 --> 00:25:46,909like they're gonna do this Saturday they
51000:25:43,970 --> 00:25:47,420got a day long arrow Fair or something
51100:25:46,910 --> 00:25:49,340going on
51200:25:47,420 --> 00:25:50,960and so they were setting up for it and I
51300:25:49,339 --> 00:25:52,879was out there I'm running a marathon on
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51400:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,460the 17th of September the Air Force
51500:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,220marathon so I was doing one of my final
51600:25:55,460 --> 00:26:01,009weekend you know we weekday run gel just
51700:25:58,220 --> 00:26:03,860several miles and in Huffman Prairie and
51800:26:01,009 --> 00:26:07,039I run across this guy and he and I wound
51900:26:03,859 --> 00:26:09,439up in the conversation about what's
52000:26:07,039 --> 00:26:12,440underground and he told me some stories
52100:26:09,440 --> 00:26:16,340I had never heard before but again you
52200:26:12,440 --> 00:26:18,289know I'm hesitant to say 'verily
52300:26:16,339 --> 00:26:20,240you know we've got spaces underground
52400:26:18,289 --> 00:26:23,690that are as big as a city because I
52500:26:20,240 --> 00:26:26,359never been there and and until I get
52600:26:23,690 --> 00:26:30,769evidence of that you know it's just
52700:26:26,359 --> 00:26:33,979speculation now that said you know we
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52800:26:30,769 --> 00:26:35,509had b-52 bombers stationed at
52900:26:33,980 --> 00:26:37,970wright-patterson Air Force Base in fact
53000:26:35,509 --> 00:26:39,859in 1973 when I arrived they were always
53100:26:37,970 --> 00:26:42,620doing Hudson goes because we were still
53200:26:39,859 --> 00:26:44,509doing Vietnam things and you know the
53300:26:42,619 --> 00:26:45,889b-52s would literally Ravel the
53400:26:44,509 --> 00:26:47,599apartment that I love them
53500:26:45,890 --> 00:26:49,340and of course they had weapons there
53600:26:47,599 --> 00:26:52,308they had a welcome storage area and as
53700:26:49,339 --> 00:26:54,619far as I can tell it was underground now
53800:26:52,308 --> 00:26:57,470does that mean that there's a city under
53900:26:54,619 --> 00:26:59,299there I don't know do we have lots of
54000:26:57,470 --> 00:27:01,100storage space underground yeah because
54100:26:59,299 --> 00:27:02,419it available weapons storage area for
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00:27:01,099 --> 00:27:04,699the most part it's going to be
54300:27:02,420 --> 00:27:07,070underground so maybe a lot of those
54400:27:04,700 --> 00:27:10,009rumors and speculations come from the
54500:27:07,069 --> 00:27:12,139fact that those weapons storage areas
54600:27:10,009 --> 00:27:15,259pretty much today are empty you know the
54700:27:12,140 --> 00:27:17,480b-52s are gone and you know our nuclear
54800:27:15,259 --> 00:27:19,549armament that used to be there is gone
54900:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,860and who knows what they did with the
55000:27:19,549 --> 00:27:24,409facilities maybe turned him into a
55100:27:21,859 --> 00:27:26,750indoor soccer field I don't know do you
55200:27:24,410 --> 00:27:33,290think there are still a lien or an alien
55300:27:26,750 --> 00:27:35,720presidents at wright-patterson again I
55400:27:33,289 --> 00:27:39,649don't know but you know look at
55500:27:35,720 --> 00:27:43,069wright-patterson you have just about
55600:27:39,650 --> 00:27:43,730
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100% maybe one or two squadrons we don't
55700:27:43,069 --> 00:27:46,309have
55800:27:43,730 --> 00:27:48,620Air Force research labs that are
55900:27:46,309 --> 00:27:50,929resident unlike person in fact they did
56000:27:48,619 --> 00:27:53,209the consolidation and you know they they
56100:27:50,930 --> 00:27:55,190move the folks and a lot also some Eglin
56200:27:53,210 --> 00:27:57,500up here and from Hanscom up here and
56300:27:55,190 --> 00:27:59,150they closed down the place that was in
56400:27:57,500 --> 00:28:00,920mesa arizona and they brought them here
56500:27:59,150 --> 00:28:03,050and you know they brought people from
56600:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,830Brooks Air Force Base so they built you
56700:28:03,049 --> 00:28:10,009know several new buildings and you know
56800:28:06,829 --> 00:28:12,230it is even a larger consolidation of
56900:28:10,009 --> 00:28:14,930anything and everything that's aerospace
57000:28:12,230 --> 00:28:17,059including folks that might do human
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57100:28:14,930 --> 00:28:19,519research and you know it's not a far
57200:28:17,059 --> 00:28:24,019step from there to doing research on
57300:28:19,519 --> 00:28:26,930another biological entity so we still
57400:28:24,019 --> 00:28:28,849have the people with the clearances we
57500:28:26,930 --> 00:28:31,190still have the contracting agencies we
57600:28:28,849 --> 00:28:33,109still have machines and money and
57700:28:31,190 --> 00:28:34,549everything that would be necessary so
57800:28:33,109 --> 00:28:36,759why not like that
57900:28:34,549 --> 00:28:39,079and we still have the security there so
58000:28:36,759 --> 00:28:43,250it's certainly within the realm of my
58100:28:39,079 --> 00:28:46,639possibilities do you think a lot of that
58200:28:43,250 --> 00:28:49,130was shipped over to area 51 in Nevada or
58300:28:46,640 --> 00:28:55,130maybe what they're calling area area 52
58400:28:49,130 --> 00:28:57,470in Dugway would they have shipped up
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58500:28:55,130 --> 00:28:59,540there you know I think it depends you
58600:28:57,470 --> 00:29:04,809know they could have set up a place that
58700:28:59,539 --> 00:29:07,460has better machinery better access to
58800:29:04,809 --> 00:29:10,129individuals that could be hired to do
58900:29:07,460 --> 00:29:12,920the research so they would move it you
59000:29:10,130 --> 00:29:14,150know as a convenience and you know we're
59100:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,840all familiar with the bob was our
59200:29:14,150 --> 00:29:19,610stories of how they flew these recovered
59300:29:17,839 --> 00:29:21,379craft and we talked about the sport
59400:29:19,609 --> 00:29:23,779model and all these other things and
59500:29:21,380 --> 00:29:26,630then he brought John Lear out there and
59600:29:23,779 --> 00:29:28,599you know they filmed these objects going
59700:29:26,630 --> 00:29:31,760up an ear that looked very much like
59800:29:28,599 --> 00:29:33,889craft that made maneuvers that we can
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00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:38,180only do you know with a hyperactive
60000:29:33,890 --> 00:29:39,740helicopter so those type of things if we
60100:29:38,180 --> 00:29:41,420had them and they would have been here
60200:29:39,740 --> 00:29:43,279let's say you know for initial
60300:29:41,420 --> 00:29:45,289evaluation I don't think we would have
60400:29:43,279 --> 00:29:47,990kept in here because there's not a lot
60500:29:45,289 --> 00:29:49,220of hidden space where you can fly those
60600:29:47,990 --> 00:29:52,250things undetected
60700:29:49,220 --> 00:29:54,230where you know pre Bob Lazar nobody knew
60800:29:52,250 --> 00:29:56,029about it and they had space where they
60900:29:54,230 --> 00:29:58,009had this huge perimeter and
61000:29:56,029 --> 00:30:01,250and I guess you know peekaboo peek was
61100:29:58,009 --> 00:30:02,690probably as close as anyone got so you
61200:30:01,250 --> 00:30:04,069know they had the space out there to do
61300:30:02,690 --> 00:30:06,350
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those kinds of things
61400:30:04,069 --> 00:30:09,649but if you think about it you know if I
61500:30:06,349 --> 00:30:11,569got some spectrometry equipment here
61600:30:09,650 --> 00:30:13,850that I can analyze a piece of metal and
61700:30:11,569 --> 00:30:16,309I dip a guy you know a three inch square
61800:30:13,849 --> 00:30:18,079how much room do I need how much
61900:30:16,309 --> 00:30:21,049security donate I give it to a guy and
62000:30:18,079 --> 00:30:23,449say hey put this in your your your x-ray
62100:30:21,049 --> 00:30:26,299diffraction machine and tell me what you
62200:30:23,450 --> 00:30:28,700know about it and you know a week later
62300:30:26,299 --> 00:30:30,889you sworn to secrecy he has no idea what
62400:30:28,700 --> 00:30:33,799he evaluated and he only needed the
62500:30:30,890 --> 00:30:35,780space like a ten-by-ten lab so do we
62600:30:33,799 --> 00:30:38,089need the move stuff to area 51 or
62700:30:35,779 --> 00:30:40,940elsewhere no we don't really have a need
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62800:30:38,089 --> 00:30:44,389to do that I think white cat could still
62900:30:40,940 --> 00:30:47,090be doing some of that you mentioned that
63000:30:44,390 --> 00:30:50,270the workers at wright-patt are very
63100:30:47,089 --> 00:30:53,599familiar with the extraterrestrial
63200:30:50,269 --> 00:30:56,019involvement there does this mean that
63300:30:53,599 --> 00:30:58,219they are currently working on
63400:30:56,019 --> 00:31:01,819extraterrestrial activity or they just
63500:30:58,220 --> 00:31:04,420know the rumors I think they know the
63600:31:01,819 --> 00:31:06,889rumors but that doesn't rule out that
63700:31:04,420 --> 00:31:08,960they could be working on something and
63800:31:06,890 --> 00:31:11,480you know you think about it you have the
63900:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,740materials directorate of air force
64000:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,559research labs and they're loaded with
64100:31:12,740 --> 00:31:18,319equipment and expertise you have the
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64200:31:15,559 --> 00:31:19,849human factors people in AR ferrell at
64300:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,710with just air force research lab you
64400:31:19,849 --> 00:31:22,879have sensors director you know you have
64500:31:21,710 --> 00:31:25,069all would direct at the propulsion
64600:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,330directed flight dynamics you know
64700:31:25,069 --> 00:31:30,169anything and everything with
64800:31:26,329 --> 00:31:32,659aeronautical engineering and why not
64900:31:30,170 --> 00:31:35,360bring it there for evaluation again how
65000:31:32,660 --> 00:31:39,830long we keep it there I don't know but
65100:31:35,359 --> 00:31:42,439let's look at the culture recently you
65200:31:39,829 --> 00:31:44,629know I I still have friends who work at
65300:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,920wright-patterson because after my
65400:31:44,630 --> 00:31:52,180engineering days were kind of over I was
65500:31:47,920 --> 00:31:57,050picked by the base commander to run a
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00:31:52,180 --> 00:31:58,670base-wide civilian wellness program and
65700:31:57,049 --> 00:32:01,039now I know you're gone hey this guy's an
65800:31:58,670 --> 00:32:04,670engineer you know that's what he did for
65900:32:01,039 --> 00:32:06,82940 years how did this happen well I took
66000:32:04,670 --> 00:32:08,600a little side turn because I'm a
66100:32:06,829 --> 00:32:09,689certified personal trainer through the
66200:32:08,599 --> 00:32:13,139Cooper Institute
66300:32:09,690 --> 00:32:14,820and a four-star general his name was
66400:32:13,140 --> 00:32:17,880speedy Martin he was head of Air Force
66500:32:14,819 --> 00:32:19,529Materiel Command several years before I
66600:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,720retired he said you know what we have
66700:32:19,529 --> 00:32:25,460too many of our leading scientists and
66800:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,870and and other civilians on the base
66900:32:25,460 --> 00:32:29,910checking out on us early because of
67000:32:27,869 --> 00:32:33,089
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strokes and heart attacks and long
67100:32:29,910 --> 00:32:35,820illnesses we need to start monitoring
67200:32:33,089 --> 00:32:37,829our civilian workforce and getting them
67300:32:35,819 --> 00:32:39,359help that they should be getting on
67400:32:37,829 --> 00:32:41,039their own but don't because they're too
67500:32:39,359 --> 00:32:44,339busy because there's to dedicate it and
67600:32:41,039 --> 00:32:49,170we need a program to push civilian
67700:32:44,339 --> 00:32:50,759wellness so that basically didn't make
67800:32:49,170 --> 00:32:52,590it through and a lot of us to kiss and
67900:32:50,759 --> 00:32:54,990speedy Martin through the email don't
68000:32:52,589 --> 00:32:58,169give up you know because the the unions
68100:32:54,990 --> 00:33:00,779voted against it so we pushed them and
68200:32:58,170 --> 00:33:03,720he pushed back and wound up starting
68300:33:00,779 --> 00:33:07,799this program and I was selected based on
68400:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,720my email background in Fitness to do
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68500:33:07,799 --> 00:33:12,509that for Air Force research labs which I
68600:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,610did and then I became the director for
68700:33:12,509 --> 00:33:16,349the whole base so I had now 10,000
68800:33:14,609 --> 00:33:19,589people underneath me and where I'm going
68900:33:16,349 --> 00:33:23,069with the story is is everyone on that
69000:33:19,589 --> 00:33:25,859base knew who I was because I was one of
69100:33:23,069 --> 00:33:29,849only a handful of people who had the
69200:33:25,859 --> 00:33:33,299authority to send an email out to the
69300:33:29,849 --> 00:33:38,759entire base population without that
69400:33:33,299 --> 00:33:40,799email being reviewed by anybody so you
69500:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,450know you had the a FMC four-star general
69600:33:40,799 --> 00:33:44,639you had the base commander you know you
69700:33:42,450 --> 00:33:47,420had the emergency guys they could all
69800:33:44,640 --> 00:33:51,180send out an email to the entire base I
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69900:33:47,420 --> 00:33:52,920was given the holy water sprinkling to
70000:33:51,180 --> 00:33:54,600do that because I was running a
70100:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,890base-wide program and was working
70200:33:54,599 --> 00:34:02,609directly for the base commander so even
70300:33:58,890 --> 00:34:04,590today I can reach back and get
70400:34:02,609 --> 00:34:07,709information or you know people will talk
70500:34:04,589 --> 00:34:10,949to me and somebody that I know who works
70600:34:07,710 --> 00:34:12,949in FTD are you familiar with FTD no I'm
70700:34:10,949 --> 00:34:15,629not is there the flower company want it
70800:34:12,949 --> 00:34:17,250no it's the forum it's the foreign
70900:34:15,630 --> 00:34:21,000technology division and they're the ones
71000:34:17,250 --> 00:34:23,280who ran Project Blue Book so a friend of
71100:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,250mine who works in FTD and this is a long
71200:34:23,280 --> 00:34:29,340answer to your question I talked to him
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00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:31,019months ago and I asked him about the
71400:34:29,340 --> 00:34:33,960aliens because he works in the building
71500:34:31,019 --> 00:34:36,480that even Barry Goldwater thought the
71600:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,740aliens were in to be evaluated and
71700:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,659that's where the material would have
71800:34:37,739 --> 00:34:43,519come in initially that was their job to
71900:34:39,659 --> 00:34:46,200collect material from foreign entities
72000:34:43,519 --> 00:34:47,519well my son said that they were doing
72100:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,618some duct work and there were loud
72200:34:47,519 --> 00:34:51,599noises all through the building but it
72300:34:49,619 --> 00:34:53,250seemed to emanate from the walls because
72400:34:51,599 --> 00:34:55,530of the way the duct work ran through the
72500:34:53,250 --> 00:34:57,389building and he said the joke was
72600:34:55,530 --> 00:35:02,190everyone goes every time they've heard
72700:34:57,389 --> 00:35:05,608
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another bang it's the aliens well this
72800:35:02,190 --> 00:35:07,889is 2015 when this is happening and you
72900:35:05,608 --> 00:35:10,409know the Roswell crafts material came
73000:35:07,889 --> 00:35:13,980here in 1947 that's a lot of intervening
73100:35:10,409 --> 00:35:16,348years you know what's at 68 years and
73200:35:13,980 --> 00:35:18,179and so this is like the third generation
73300:35:16,349 --> 00:35:21,119of employees that are working there yet
73400:35:18,179 --> 00:35:24,659they're all familiar with the mythology
73500:35:21,119 --> 00:35:26,460effect ology of aliens FTD and
73600:35:24,659 --> 00:35:29,909wright-patterson Air Force Base and
73700:35:26,460 --> 00:35:32,369that's just one instance of it but I was
73800:35:29,909 --> 00:35:34,170surprised because you know this was a
73900:35:32,369 --> 00:35:37,650younger employee you know he's probably
74000:35:34,170 --> 00:35:39,358in his upper 20s early 30s and he and
74100:35:37,650 --> 00:35:42,030the rest of us his office are very
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74200:35:39,358 --> 00:35:46,348familiar with that connection
74300:35:42,030 --> 00:35:49,500so it's alive and well today do you
74400:35:46,349 --> 00:35:51,150consider yourself Rea to be a form of a
74500:35:49,500 --> 00:35:53,338whistleblower in coming out with all
74600:35:51,150 --> 00:35:56,579this information I realize a lot of it
74700:35:53,338 --> 00:35:58,949is public but you have first hand on the
74800:35:56,579 --> 00:36:00,900boots on the ground information about
74900:35:58,949 --> 00:36:02,460wright-patt and the one thing that the
75000:36:00,900 --> 00:36:04,320military doesn't like is their own
75100:36:02,460 --> 00:36:06,659secrets or their own people coming out
75200:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,109and talking about this sort of
75300:36:06,659 --> 00:36:09,108information
75400:36:09,739 --> 00:36:15,059well it's interesting I did a POC to the
75500:36:12,630 --> 00:36:18,420North Carolina MUFON organization and
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75600:36:15,059 --> 00:36:19,858you know it was an hour and fifteen
75700:36:18,420 --> 00:36:21,900minute talk then I usually like to give
75800:36:19,858 --> 00:36:24,539a half hour for Q&A because I think
75900:36:21,900 --> 00:36:26,579people need to grill the speaker you
76000:36:24,539 --> 00:36:29,429know cross-examine him to make sure
76100:36:26,579 --> 00:36:31,500there's no fabrication so I did and the
76200:36:29,429 --> 00:36:34,879first question out of the chute was have
76300:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,880they tried to kill you over this
76400:36:34,900 --> 00:36:41,240and I thought what's the crazy question
76500:36:37,818 --> 00:36:44,509you know if they wanted to stop me they
76600:36:41,239 --> 00:36:47,989should have when I called the literary
76700:36:44,510 --> 00:36:49,940office of the air force and said ladies
76800:36:47,989 --> 00:36:52,088and gentlemen you know I worked at the
76900:36:49,940 --> 00:36:54,528base for 39 years and eight months
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00:36:52,088 --> 00:36:57,558something like that I said you know I'm
77100:36:54,528 --> 00:36:59,659publishing this book and 25% of it's all
77200:36:57,559 --> 00:37:01,910about right path they said do you have a
77300:36:59,659 --> 00:37:03,679publisher of contract I said no and they
77400:37:01,909 --> 00:37:06,858said well we don't need to talk to you I
77500:37:03,679 --> 00:37:09,558said one and I tried to explain again
77600:37:06,858 --> 00:37:12,769what I had they said no unless if you're
77700:37:09,559 --> 00:37:14,480self-publishing we this literary office
77800:37:12,769 --> 00:37:15,980are not obligated to talk to you so I
77900:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,139said you don't want to get this in
78000:37:15,980 --> 00:37:20,150writing so I contacted ripe Edison's
78100:37:18,139 --> 00:37:22,489public affairs talked to a guy there and
78200:37:20,150 --> 00:37:24,019he said yep I'll get it for you and you
78300:37:22,489 --> 00:37:27,199know I got an email that says you
78400:37:24,019 --> 00:37:28,940
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contacted us you were absolved you know
78500:37:27,199 --> 00:37:31,578you don't have a publishing contract so
78600:37:28,940 --> 00:37:33,858we don't want to speak to you so that
78700:37:31,579 --> 00:37:36,500being said you know I have a secrecy
78800:37:33,858 --> 00:37:40,969oath and to the best of my knowledge I
78900:37:36,500 --> 00:37:45,920am still complying with those
79000:37:40,969 --> 00:37:50,629requirements and what I've done though
79100:37:45,920 --> 00:37:52,278is you know there are things out on the
79200:37:50,630 --> 00:37:55,490base that you can visually see for
79300:37:52,278 --> 00:37:59,028example FTD the foreign technology
79400:37:55,489 --> 00:38:00,739division has a MIG fighter on a little
79500:37:59,028 --> 00:38:05,510concrete platform right in front of
79600:38:00,739 --> 00:38:08,509their building and everybody sees it in
79700:38:05,510 --> 00:38:09,770fact 10,000 marathoners well I don't
79800:38:08,510 --> 00:38:11,869think we have that many 7,000
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79900:38:09,769 --> 00:38:13,579marathoners will run right past it on
80000:38:11,869 --> 00:38:16,039the 17th of September we'll go we'll all
80100:38:13,579 --> 00:38:20,960run right past the mid so it's not a
80200:38:16,039 --> 00:38:22,730secret so what I decided to do was hey
80300:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,039if you're gonna lay it out there and I
80400:38:22,730 --> 00:38:27,349got a pair of ice and still working I'm
80500:38:25,039 --> 00:38:29,089gonna go see what I can find and I found
80600:38:27,349 --> 00:38:31,460some very interesting things like
80700:38:29,088 --> 00:38:36,338ancient burial mounds and I found these
80800:38:31,460 --> 00:38:39,559slabs that seem to correlate to some
80900:38:36,338 --> 00:38:42,650archaeological sites that are known and
81000:38:39,559 --> 00:38:46,490unknown and these could be burial sites
81100:38:42,650 --> 00:38:47,269so I decided to take some of the stories
81200:38:46,489 --> 00:38:50,118that I can
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81300:38:47,268 --> 00:38:53,389verifying some of some of the narratives
81400:38:50,119 --> 00:38:55,489I've heard some of my own snooping which
81500:38:53,389 --> 00:38:57,528you know if you put a building out there
81600:38:55,489 --> 00:39:00,199and you know it's let's say it's
81700:38:57,528 --> 00:39:03,048building one and I tell people a story
81800:39:00,199 --> 00:39:05,599about building one how can I possibly be
81900:39:03,048 --> 00:39:07,699a violation of my security all you put
82000:39:05,599 --> 00:39:10,009the building out there it's visible on
82100:39:07,699 --> 00:39:12,229Google and but I take it a step further
82200:39:10,009 --> 00:39:15,619and yeah I might be on the hairy edge
82300:39:12,228 --> 00:39:19,398but you know in my estimation
82400:39:15,619 --> 00:39:23,959I've never violated that secrecy oath
82500:39:19,398 --> 00:39:29,748and in the best Clinton ease
82600:39:23,958 --> 00:39:36,558I have no intent on ever violating my
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00:39:29,748 --> 00:39:38,538security make sense it totally makes
82800:39:36,559 --> 00:39:40,880sense and it's just very interesting
82900:39:38,539 --> 00:39:42,380that with the topics even though you're
83000:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,199very close to the topics and you're
83100:39:42,380 --> 00:39:46,880pushing the edge you're Ray has anybody
83200:39:45,199 --> 00:39:48,168ever come up to you and just said you
83300:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,329know you might want to be careful with
83400:39:48,168 --> 00:39:53,208this or have you ever had any warnings
83500:39:50,329 --> 00:39:57,109or anybody contact you and just say hey
83600:39:53,208 --> 00:39:58,908what are you up to here no but I've had
83700:39:57,108 --> 00:40:00,978some really interesting computer and
83800:39:58,909 --> 00:40:03,979phone issues since my book was getting
83900:40:00,978 --> 00:40:07,188near publication and whether they're
84000:40:03,978 --> 00:40:09,548coincidence or not I don't know I you
84100:40:07,188 --> 00:40:15,108
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know as a computer guy I would put them
84200:40:09,548 --> 00:40:17,599in the category of denial of service so
84300:40:15,108 --> 00:40:19,338you know for the first time ever you
84400:40:17,599 --> 00:40:24,199know I was getting a blue screen for
84500:40:19,338 --> 00:40:25,578random reasons on my on my desktop which
84600:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,499I never had before and this all started
84700:40:25,579 --> 00:40:30,729around September of this year as I was
84800:40:27,498 --> 00:40:34,879getting close to publishing my my word
84900:40:30,728 --> 00:40:38,598you know word 2010 was doing belly flops
85000:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,789on me it never happened before I my
85100:40:38,599 --> 00:40:42,979internet service would cut in and out
85200:40:40,789 --> 00:40:45,019and I had a tea here there tech
85300:40:42,978 --> 00:40:46,998specialist three separate times with
85400:40:45,018 --> 00:40:50,088meters that were measuring the
85500:40:46,998 --> 00:40:54,228throughput but on my screen it said I
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85600:40:50,088 --> 00:40:57,139had no internet connection they were
85700:40:54,228 --> 00:40:58,158there three three individuals it's
85800:40:57,139 --> 00:41:00,439documented
85900:40:58,159 --> 00:41:01,220they're totally befuddled they still
86000:41:00,438 --> 00:41:04,549don't know
86100:41:01,219 --> 00:41:06,709what's going on is it coincidence I
86200:41:04,550 --> 00:41:09,440don't know I'm gonna let the public
86300:41:06,710 --> 00:41:14,599judge that I've had incidents with my
86400:41:09,440 --> 00:41:16,358phone internet computer files but no one
86500:41:14,599 --> 00:41:19,369has really come up to me and said
86600:41:16,358 --> 00:41:22,029seasons exist in fact some people think
86700:41:19,369 --> 00:41:27,200that I'm being used as a conduit for
86800:41:22,030 --> 00:41:31,430soft disclosure because of the fact that
86900:41:27,199 --> 00:41:34,159nobody's come up to me and said seasons
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87000:41:31,429 --> 00:41:37,460exist you know and in fact some of the
87100:41:34,159 --> 00:41:41,539material I've gotten you know it's been
87200:41:37,460 --> 00:41:43,909hard research but you know it's been
87300:41:41,539 --> 00:41:45,529hard come by but no one has said
87400:41:43,909 --> 00:41:47,449anything I mean my books out there and
87500:41:45,530 --> 00:41:49,250in fact I actually had one during the
87600:41:47,449 --> 00:41:54,589boot so come up to me and say I want to
87700:41:49,250 --> 00:41:56,659verify your men and black story which I
87800:41:54,590 --> 00:42:00,500found interesting because he's a former
87900:41:56,659 --> 00:42:03,348government employee but no I've not
88000:42:00,500 --> 00:42:06,230gotten anything so you know if they
88100:42:03,349 --> 00:42:08,690wanted to stop it they surely would have
88200:42:06,230 --> 00:42:10,880done it long before it reads publication
88300:42:08,690 --> 00:42:14,659let's talk about the men in black since
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00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,190you bring that up I have never seen the
88500:42:14,659 --> 00:42:19,519men in black I've never had any
88600:42:16,190 --> 00:42:22,338encounters I knock on wood every time
88700:42:19,519 --> 00:42:24,800that I bring up this topic but I know a
88800:42:22,338 --> 00:42:28,099lot of people who had had the encounters
88900:42:24,800 --> 00:42:31,099who have had you know the warning signs
89000:42:28,099 --> 00:42:33,470or men in black or the vehicles in black
89100:42:31,099 --> 00:42:35,960or the helicopters in black whatever you
89200:42:33,469 --> 00:42:38,809know even the ants in black walking by
89300:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,269their doors you know what's out like to
89400:42:38,809 --> 00:42:45,259have that feeling when men in black come
89500:42:41,269 --> 00:42:48,619up to you well it turns out that they're
89600:42:45,260 --> 00:42:52,160more I observed the men in black and I
89700:42:48,619 --> 00:42:54,190came up to one of them in fact I
89800:42:52,159 --> 00:42:57,799
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actually came up to both of them that I
89900:42:54,190 --> 00:43:00,260discovered one was standing across the
90000:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,330parking lot from FTD Florin technology
90100:43:00,260 --> 00:43:06,500division and I was on the golf course
90200:43:02,329 --> 00:43:07,848and it was May late May hot as all
90300:43:06,500 --> 00:43:10,338get-out of course because you know
90400:43:07,849 --> 00:43:11,960around the 15th of May we kind of hit a
90500:43:10,338 --> 00:43:13,639switch we get the humidity goes out the
90600:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,610temperatures start going up as I was
90700:43:13,639 --> 00:43:18,129dressing all dark
90800:43:15,610 --> 00:43:20,079and had to had on the classic the
90900:43:18,130 --> 00:43:22,450quintessential men in black hat me was
91000:43:20,079 --> 00:43:24,849looking at a smartphone and I was
91100:43:22,449 --> 00:43:26,259driving along the course and he was
91200:43:24,849 --> 00:43:31,599sitting between the parking lot and
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91300:43:26,260 --> 00:43:33,790there's a there's a graveyard that it's
91400:43:31,599 --> 00:43:35,319not on its original site and that is
91500:43:33,789 --> 00:43:37,179also one of the locations where I found
91600:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,570this stone slab that we'll get into
91700:43:37,179 --> 00:43:45,099later and I saw this gentleman dressed
91800:43:40,570 --> 00:43:48,070as and he been at a convention of men
91900:43:45,099 --> 00:43:49,569and black you couldn't spot him from the
92000:43:48,070 --> 00:43:53,530rest of the guys he would have just look
92100:43:49,570 --> 00:43:56,890perfect so I went up to him and said hey
92200:43:53,530 --> 00:43:58,480you know this is kind of crazy but you
92300:43:56,889 --> 00:44:00,969know seeing as how you're standing on
92400:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,400the campus of an intelligence agency and
92500:44:00,969 --> 00:44:06,309you're dressed like a man in black I
92600:44:03,400 --> 00:44:11,980just can't help but ask the question are
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92700:44:06,309 --> 00:44:17,199you one of these guys and after a small
92800:44:11,980 --> 00:44:20,019hesitation he said no and I said well I
92900:44:17,199 --> 00:44:22,000gotta tell you you know it's hot out
93000:44:20,019 --> 00:44:24,250here I know you're in a state of these
93100:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,500trees but you're wearing that hat too
93200:44:24,250 --> 00:44:30,940and to me it's like who dresses like
93300:44:26,500 --> 00:44:35,260that so he pauses long enough to take
93400:44:30,940 --> 00:44:42,130the hat off of his head and there I see
93500:44:35,260 --> 00:44:46,869he's totally bald not only that but he's
93600:44:42,130 --> 00:44:48,519got and olive tone to his skin and I'm
93700:44:46,869 --> 00:44:50,350kind of squinting there and I have great
93800:44:48,519 --> 00:44:53,199vision I don't wear any corrective
93900:44:50,349 --> 00:44:54,960lenses I don't wear contacts you know
94000:44:53,199 --> 00:44:59,679you go to the records go to my
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00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:01,300optometrist and he's he's amazed so I'm
94200:44:59,679 --> 00:45:03,429looking at this thing and I go this is
94300:45:01,300 --> 00:45:05,950really strange and you know he looked
94400:45:03,429 --> 00:45:07,269normal normal size normal head except
94500:45:05,949 --> 00:45:10,509his head was totally bald
94600:45:07,269 --> 00:45:14,050and his entire face and head was the
94700:45:10,510 --> 00:45:19,869same color so you know we have a small
94800:45:14,050 --> 00:45:21,940conversation and you know I I asked him
94900:45:19,869 --> 00:45:23,680about you know men in black and no he
95000:45:21,940 --> 00:45:24,940says he's not and you know I was trying
95100:45:23,679 --> 00:45:27,309to prove to me he's wearing this hat
95200:45:24,940 --> 00:45:28,539let's get up because you know he's got
95300:45:27,309 --> 00:45:34,029this strange
95400:45:28,539 --> 00:45:39,070skin color and this half so um fast
95500:45:34,030 --> 00:45:41,620
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forward a month and I talked to him
95600:45:39,070 --> 00:45:44,200about my book I see him again same spot
95700:45:41,619 --> 00:45:46,150you know same place on the edge of this
95800:45:44,199 --> 00:45:47,529parking lot and I go up to him I talking
95900:45:46,150 --> 00:45:52,690about my book and here's what he asked
96000:45:47,530 --> 00:45:54,100me he said do you know about area 51
96100:45:52,690 --> 00:45:55,240because he want to know if I was going
96200:45:54,099 --> 00:45:56,679to write about white cat I said yeah I
96300:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,750said well are you writing anything about
96400:45:56,679 --> 00:46:00,849area 51 I go well I've never been there
96500:45:58,750 --> 00:46:04,420so I can't write anything about the area
96600:46:00,849 --> 00:46:06,94051 have you been there he said well yeah
96700:46:04,420 --> 00:46:08,650I said you're handy so absolutely and
96800:46:06,940 --> 00:46:10,420then he says well you know if you know
96900:46:08,650 --> 00:46:14,289the right people you can actually get a
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97000:46:10,420 --> 00:46:16,059tour of area 51 well you know what do
97100:46:14,289 --> 00:46:17,650you know about area 51 and I know what I
97200:46:16,059 --> 00:46:19,809know about area 51 that sound like a
97300:46:17,650 --> 00:46:24,340really scary her to get into place right
97400:46:19,809 --> 00:46:26,380I just can't imagine what it would be
97500:46:24,340 --> 00:46:28,300like to go past the sign even though
97600:46:26,380 --> 00:46:32,309there's no gates I really don't want the
97700:46:28,300 --> 00:46:34,390camo dudes coming at me exactly so now
97800:46:32,309 --> 00:46:36,789you know this is one of those places
97900:46:34,389 --> 00:46:39,339where obviously it's the Holy Grail to
98000:46:36,789 --> 00:46:42,579UFO researchers I can do without a visit
98100:46:39,340 --> 00:46:46,240and he's basically telling me I can get
98200:46:42,579 --> 00:46:50,049you a tour of area 51 because I know the
98300:46:46,239 --> 00:46:52,000right people well there's a problem with
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98400:46:50,050 --> 00:46:54,760that because you know after so many
98500:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,380years your security clearance lapses and
98600:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,660I had been retired long enough that that
98700:46:56,380 --> 00:47:01,329have indeed incurred but he doesn't know
98800:46:58,659 --> 00:47:04,059that because I'm playing on the basis
98900:47:01,329 --> 00:47:05,829Golf Course which is usually restricted
99000:47:04,059 --> 00:47:08,110for people who can get on the base in
99100:47:05,829 --> 00:47:10,269fact it's very much restricted to people
99200:47:08,110 --> 00:47:13,180who can get on the base so he must have
99300:47:10,269 --> 00:47:14,710just assumed that I was you know a base
99400:47:13,179 --> 00:47:17,980employee at the time instead of a
99500:47:14,710 --> 00:47:20,349retiree well you know this is like
99600:47:17,980 --> 00:47:23,289mind-blowing because I'm getting an
99700:47:20,349 --> 00:47:25,630invitation to her area 51 and I'm
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00:47:23,289 --> 00:47:27,550thinking wow what an opportunity but at
99900:47:25,630 --> 00:47:29,440the same time I'm thinking I just told
100000:47:27,550 --> 00:47:31,870him I've written a book about UFOs in my
100100:47:29,440 --> 00:47:37,210passion and they may take me to area 51
100200:47:31,869 --> 00:47:39,339whereupon I would disappear forever so I
100300:47:37,210 --> 00:47:41,289decided that was a really good time to
100400:47:39,340 --> 00:47:41,890say hey thanks you know I can't do that
100500:47:41,289 --> 00:47:43,750because I don't have
100600:47:41,889 --> 00:47:46,029clearance anymore but you know nice
100700:47:43,750 --> 00:47:47,829meeting you and if you look at my book
100800:47:46,030 --> 00:47:50,160and I can't remember the page now but I
100900:47:47,829 --> 00:47:53,769want to say it's like 198 or something
101000:47:50,159 --> 00:47:57,460there's actually a picture of a man and
101100:47:53,769 --> 00:48:03,730black in there and it happens to be this
101200:47:57,460 --> 00:48:06,610
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guy did you feel like he was human yeah
101300:48:03,730 --> 00:48:08,500he was playing smartphone and they're
101400:48:06,610 --> 00:48:10,329not allowed I don't think to have their
101500:48:08,500 --> 00:48:12,130phones on I think when they go in you
101600:48:10,329 --> 00:48:13,929know there's a little bin there like a
101700:48:12,130 --> 00:48:15,460tiny little Locker and they check stuff
101800:48:13,929 --> 00:48:17,109that they can't carry into the building
101900:48:15,460 --> 00:48:18,460with them and they come out and get a
102000:48:17,110 --> 00:48:20,710breath of fresh air because there's no
102100:48:18,460 --> 00:48:22,960windows in the building and they sit and
102200:48:20,710 --> 00:48:24,579they do their texting or you know play
102300:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,250games or whatever yeah I thought it was
102400:48:24,579 --> 00:48:30,159very human there knows no you know men
102500:48:27,250 --> 00:48:33,489and black movie you know slanty double
102600:48:30,159 --> 00:48:36,569triple eyelid kind of thing going on he
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102700:48:33,489 --> 00:48:39,519seemed very genuine but the skin tone
102800:48:36,570 --> 00:48:44,519and the dress the fact that he was
102900:48:39,519 --> 00:48:47,320dressed this way was just overwhelmingly
103000:48:44,519 --> 00:48:50,349suggestive and if he wanted to convince
103100:48:47,320 --> 00:48:54,880me that he was a man in black he did it
103200:48:50,349 --> 00:48:56,889in stage well for him to all of a sudden
103300:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,890offer you a trip to area 51 he was
103400:48:56,889 --> 00:49:02,769either majorly pulling your leg or there
103500:48:59,889 --> 00:49:05,489was some reality to that especially with
103600:49:02,769 --> 00:49:07,989your right things in hand pretty much
103700:49:05,489 --> 00:49:12,039exactly and you know that's where this
103800:49:07,989 --> 00:49:15,849soft disclosure comes in you know I I
103900:49:12,039 --> 00:49:21,340know people who have been on programs
104000:49:15,849 --> 00:49:23,110where they used that terra firma to do
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104100:49:21,340 --> 00:49:24,550their tests because you know it's
104200:49:23,110 --> 00:49:27,309isolated and often there's the right
104300:49:24,550 --> 00:49:30,280support out there and you know they do
104400:49:27,309 --> 00:49:33,130tests out there and I had a chance to go
104500:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,380out there to be an observer for one of
104600:49:33,130 --> 00:49:36,640these programs but unfortunately you
104700:49:35,380 --> 00:49:38,740know when they riddled the list down
104800:49:36,639 --> 00:49:41,529only the brass was allowed to go and
104900:49:38,739 --> 00:49:44,349they were mostly GS 15s and SPSS and
105000:49:41,530 --> 00:49:45,850Generals so you know I was the next
105100:49:44,349 --> 00:49:47,440level down and was told you know I'm
105200:49:45,849 --> 00:49:50,170sorry but there's only so much room on
105300:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,730the bus I don't miss it you know I don't
105400:49:50,170 --> 00:49:53,180care one way or the other
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00:49:51,730 --> 00:49:55,219blood
105600:49:53,179 --> 00:49:57,259you know the fact is that I knew people
105700:49:55,219 --> 00:49:59,509who went out there and did testing so
105800:49:57,260 --> 00:50:01,430you know it's it's not out it's not like
105900:49:59,510 --> 00:50:03,170I can't get my head around it it's just
106000:50:01,429 --> 00:50:05,329I couldn't get my head around this
106100:50:03,170 --> 00:50:08,420person talking about it and basically
106200:50:05,329 --> 00:50:09,889you know in other terms telling me how I
106300:50:08,420 --> 00:50:14,690didn't get you at or out there that was
106400:50:09,889 --> 00:50:17,118kind of mind-blowing did you feel fear
106500:50:14,690 --> 00:50:20,780or was it just something not at all
106600:50:17,119 --> 00:50:22,640reality not at all no it was he was just
106700:50:20,780 --> 00:50:25,280like it was just like you know the guy
106800:50:22,639 --> 00:50:26,750we'd interested in fact he took my name
106900:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,990
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I gave him my first name and my email
107000:50:26,750 --> 00:50:32,389address because I said look if I took
107100:50:29,989 --> 00:50:34,129your picture a closer picture of a man
107200:50:32,389 --> 00:50:38,358in black dressed like you and I put it
107300:50:34,130 --> 00:50:39,769in a book the book will be famous you'll
107400:50:38,358 --> 00:50:40,639be absolutely famous he goes well what
107500:50:39,769 --> 00:50:42,739are you offering me I said well I'm
107600:50:40,639 --> 00:50:44,779often you'll cut of the proceeds because
107700:50:42,739 --> 00:50:46,579you mean like and you didn't use the
107800:50:44,780 --> 00:50:49,430word for damn yeah royalty I said yeah
107900:50:46,579 --> 00:50:52,130royalty he goes well you know I don't
108000:50:49,429 --> 00:50:53,838think and again I document this within
108100:50:52,130 --> 00:50:57,490the book because I meant both
108200:50:53,838 --> 00:51:00,650conversations I had with him and I say
108300:50:57,489 --> 00:51:02,689he said to me in this environment we
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108400:51:00,650 --> 00:51:05,088shouldn't have this kind of exposure and
108500:51:02,690 --> 00:51:07,460and I said what environment he nods
108600:51:05,088 --> 00:51:09,259towards the building which is FTD the
108700:51:07,460 --> 00:51:11,480former home of Blue Book and I will
108800:51:09,260 --> 00:51:14,030fully understand of course and he's he's
108900:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,849saying you know people in my you know
109000:51:14,030 --> 00:51:18,470whatever I do in there shouldn't
109100:51:16,849 --> 00:51:24,289shouldn't have this kind of exposure and
109200:51:18,469 --> 00:51:27,259I couldn't agree with him more so no
109300:51:24,289 --> 00:51:29,989there was no fear was just like hey I'm
109400:51:27,260 --> 00:51:32,210letting you know what it is and and you
109500:51:29,989 --> 00:51:34,338know I'm intrigued by the fact that
109600:51:32,210 --> 00:51:36,289you're writing a book which is probably
109700:51:34,338 --> 00:51:39,710going to include this conversation and
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109800:51:36,289 --> 00:51:41,659the building that I work in and maybe he
109900:51:39,710 --> 00:51:43,250was just doing it to see what my
110000:51:41,659 --> 00:51:45,969reaction was you know was I gonna be
110100:51:43,250 --> 00:51:49,099floored you know was gonna be impressed
110200:51:45,969 --> 00:51:50,299you know it was all of the above but you
110300:51:49,099 --> 00:51:52,609know it's kind of cool on the outside
110400:51:50,300 --> 00:51:54,890but on the inside I was going oh man gee
110500:51:52,608 --> 00:51:56,838is this really happening but it was cool
110600:51:54,889 --> 00:51:58,098I think was kind of neat and I think
110700:51:56,838 --> 00:52:00,529there was some respect that you know I
110800:51:58,099 --> 00:52:03,109was a retiree you know I let him know
110900:52:00,530 --> 00:52:05,060that and you know there was a high level
111000:52:03,108 --> 00:52:05,639you know an executive level person from
111100:52:05,059 --> 00:52:07,788the base
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00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:10,469and I think you have to respect that -
111300:52:07,789 --> 00:52:12,150well on that note you could see where he
111400:52:10,469 --> 00:52:13,768would maybe gain some trust because of
111500:52:12,150 --> 00:52:16,798your security clearance like you just
111600:52:13,768 --> 00:52:18,598said at any time did he contact you
111700:52:16,798 --> 00:52:20,400afterwards or was that the final
111800:52:18,599 --> 00:52:22,950conversation that you ever had with this
111900:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,858gentleman that was a second conversation
112000:52:22,949 --> 00:52:27,838I ever had with and I'm sure if I were
112100:52:25,858 --> 00:52:31,920to book the tea time and pass by that
112200:52:27,838 --> 00:52:33,538spot or drive past there you know the
112300:52:31,920 --> 00:52:38,278time of day you know I'll just use the
112400:52:33,539 --> 00:52:41,339photo stamp of the photo I took in which
112500:52:38,278 --> 00:52:43,440shows him in silhouette and a blinding
112600:52:41,338 --> 00:52:45,480
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light coming off of a windshield so
112700:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,460there's no way you can identify him but
112800:52:45,480 --> 00:52:51,599you can clearly see the clothes he's in
112900:52:47,460 --> 00:52:53,130and you know I could go back and find
113000:52:51,599 --> 00:52:55,619the time of day I'm sure I could
113100:52:53,130 --> 00:52:57,630probably engage him again the question
113200:52:55,619 --> 00:52:59,608is do I really want to and and I
113300:52:57,630 --> 00:53:03,568actually haven't even thought about that
113400:52:59,608 --> 00:53:06,568yet if I really wanted to do that so but
113500:53:03,568 --> 00:53:09,568I did have another men and black
113600:53:06,568 --> 00:53:13,108observation which happened at a local
113700:53:09,568 --> 00:53:16,349restaurant and I saw a man who I do have
113800:53:13,108 --> 00:53:18,509two very clear of photos of up close
113900:53:16,349 --> 00:53:22,588because he was at a table about 15 feet
114000:53:18,509 --> 00:53:25,679away and he was dressed in the full men
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114100:53:22,588 --> 00:53:27,989in black regalia and it looked to me
114200:53:25,679 --> 00:53:36,328like he was shooting pictures of me
114300:53:27,989 --> 00:53:38,818sitting at my table that's how I yeah
114400:53:36,329 --> 00:53:41,309and you know you know today you know the
114500:53:38,818 --> 00:53:44,489cellphone scan can take from both sides
114600:53:41,309 --> 00:53:49,980now yeah some of the cameras can't and
114700:53:44,489 --> 00:53:51,989and he was holding the phone he was
114800:53:49,980 --> 00:53:53,818holding it in such a position that it
114900:53:51,989 --> 00:53:56,278could have looked like he was reading it
115000:53:53,818 --> 00:53:58,829but why wouldn't he have had it above
115100:53:56,278 --> 00:54:00,690the desktop you is that one of these
115200:53:58,829 --> 00:54:03,450I'll call it a bar but it's a
115300:54:00,690 --> 00:54:05,190free-standing you know about four foot
115400:54:03,449 --> 00:54:07,139four and a half foot high in the middle
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115500:54:05,190 --> 00:54:09,568of this restaurant it's more of a beer
115600:54:07,139 --> 00:54:12,328place and he was holding it underneath
115700:54:09,568 --> 00:54:14,308the table top so you know maybe this
115800:54:12,329 --> 00:54:16,528shielded from other eyes he could have
115900:54:14,309 --> 00:54:18,720easily just held it up but it looked to
116000:54:16,528 --> 00:54:19,659me like unless he was trying to get some
116100:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,239glare
116200:54:19,659 --> 00:54:24,879it was pointed in my direction and I saw
116300:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,828the screen snap a couple times and then
116400:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,710you know he kind of turned it so I
116500:54:26,829 --> 00:54:31,539couldn't see it and of course he now got
116600:54:29,710 --> 00:54:33,750my curiosity up so I went up and talked
116700:54:31,539 --> 00:54:36,068to them and again I I basically
116800:54:33,750 --> 00:54:38,349generally asked him if he was one of the
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00:54:36,068 --> 00:54:40,269men in black and he laughed no and he
117000:54:38,349 --> 00:54:42,550told me he was a fundraiser and I won't
117100:54:40,269 --> 00:54:45,699tell you for who and so I still need to
117200:54:42,550 --> 00:54:49,059track that down but my question is who
117300:54:45,699 --> 00:54:52,000dresses like that and especially the
117400:54:49,059 --> 00:54:53,859time of year was you know again if
117500:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,409somebody wanted me to think they were
117600:54:53,858 --> 00:54:57,940men in black mission accomplished there
117700:54:56,409 --> 00:55:00,639was no doubt in my mind that this guy
117800:54:57,940 --> 00:55:03,159you know was either just early for
117900:55:00,639 --> 00:55:07,179Halloween or you know he was dressed in
118000:55:03,159 --> 00:55:08,500you know the the soup du jour what do
118100:55:07,179 --> 00:55:14,529you think the role of the men in black
118200:55:08,500 --> 00:55:18,730actually is ray well I read I think it
118300:55:14,530 --> 00:55:23,519
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was to keep really really good evidence
118400:55:18,730 --> 00:55:27,068out of the public's hands to obfuscate
118500:55:23,519 --> 00:55:29,650what was good facts that were out there
118600:55:27,068 --> 00:55:33,009that researchers could find probably
118700:55:29,650 --> 00:55:36,789some witness intimidation I mean if
118800:55:33,010 --> 00:55:40,839you're familiar with the Stevens film
118900:55:36,789 --> 00:55:43,048lights there was Ricky Searles
119000:55:40,838 --> 00:55:48,058I hope I'm pronouncing his name right
119100:55:43,048 --> 00:55:53,670you know these these crafts appeared
119200:55:48,059 --> 00:55:56,829over Stephenville and they were seen by
119300:55:53,670 --> 00:55:58,450constable Gaytan and Steve Smith and
119400:55:56,829 --> 00:56:01,809there was a pilot and all these guys
119500:55:58,449 --> 00:56:04,210have been on TV and Ricky Sorrels story
119600:56:01,809 --> 00:56:07,089was the most compelling you know he's a
119700:56:04,210 --> 00:56:08,798rancher he's going out to check on the
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119800:56:07,088 --> 00:56:10,358livestock you know mixture they're all
119900:56:08,798 --> 00:56:13,409behind the gate they're supposed to be
120000:56:10,358 --> 00:56:16,480and you know it's it's Twilight and and
120100:56:13,409 --> 00:56:20,199he's of course a rancher so you know
120200:56:16,480 --> 00:56:22,329he's got his varmint gun with him and he
120300:56:20,199 --> 00:56:26,259feels a sensation or hears a hum and he
120400:56:22,329 --> 00:56:32,240looks up and he testified on multiple
120500:56:26,260 --> 00:56:36,440occasions that he's looking at a craft
120600:56:32,239 --> 00:56:39,109that totally blocks out the rest of the
120700:56:36,440 --> 00:56:44,240sky he described it as being you know
120800:56:39,110 --> 00:56:46,940three miles long and 2 miles wide
120900:56:44,239 --> 00:56:52,609and the the bottom of his craft had
121000:56:46,940 --> 00:56:55,400dimples that were 50 feet across the
121100:56:52,610 --> 00:56:57,800dimples and through the scope of his gun
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121200:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,440which he had in his hand he looked up
121300:56:57,800 --> 00:57:03,050and couldn't see any seams so there are
121400:57:00,440 --> 00:57:05,26950 for the cross and 50 foot apart and
121500:57:03,050 --> 00:57:07,340the thing 3 miles wide and somewhere you
121600:57:05,269 --> 00:57:10,190know you can find a video paper or
121700:57:07,340 --> 00:57:11,870youtube pay for this thing and so in the
121800:57:10,190 --> 00:57:14,440ensuing days when after Ricky goes
121900:57:11,869 --> 00:57:17,029public he encounters men in black
122000:57:14,440 --> 00:57:20,150driving up his ranch road and standing
122100:57:17,030 --> 00:57:22,100out there daring him to engage them and
122200:57:20,150 --> 00:57:23,809of course he's got a family in there and
122300:57:22,099 --> 00:57:25,699he has no idea you know he's a really
122400:57:23,809 --> 00:57:29,719isn't he doesn't know men in black from
122500:57:25,699 --> 00:57:31,909you know Venus so he describes this
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00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:33,799fully the guys dress and how many visits
122700:57:31,909 --> 00:57:35,659he had and that kind of thing so you
122800:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,250know was somebody putting him on was
122900:57:35,659 --> 00:57:39,529somebody trying to you know extend a
123000:57:37,250 --> 00:57:41,090myth I don't know but I can tell you
123100:57:39,530 --> 00:57:44,420that you know as recently as the
123200:57:41,090 --> 00:57:46,850Stevensville lights ricky Sorel's had
123300:57:44,420 --> 00:57:48,920visitors who were dressed and he
123400:57:46,849 --> 00:57:52,099described with other people identified
123500:57:48,920 --> 00:57:53,990as men in black so it seems to me you
123600:57:52,099 --> 00:57:55,489know it's like well we're still here
123700:57:53,989 --> 00:57:57,409shut up and you know we're going to
123800:57:55,489 --> 00:58:01,639scare you just enough you know to buy
123900:57:57,409 --> 00:58:04,429your silence that's how I view them and
124000:58:01,639 --> 00:58:06,049
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hopefully I'll never meet one that
124100:58:04,429 --> 00:58:08,659actually comes up to me first I
124200:58:06,050 --> 00:58:13,580basically come up to them because I
124300:58:08,659 --> 00:58:16,819think it's hilarious I don't know how I
124400:58:13,579 --> 00:58:18,409would react if all of a sudden you know
124500:58:16,820 --> 00:58:21,380I talked about something on this show
124600:58:18,409 --> 00:58:23,420that got me a little bit of a visit or
124700:58:21,380 --> 00:58:26,079all of a sudden the black Cadillac or
124800:58:23,420 --> 00:58:28,970something parked outside my door and
124900:58:26,079 --> 00:58:31,549zoom lens is coming in or whatever it
125000:58:28,969 --> 00:58:33,919could be I I really don't know if I
125100:58:31,550 --> 00:58:37,160would be as calm as you I mean in one
125200:58:33,920 --> 00:58:38,780way and not to sound you know exuberant
125300:58:37,159 --> 00:58:41,029but I think I would be excited about it
125400:58:38,780 --> 00:58:43,940that I'm being followed by these guys
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125500:58:41,030 --> 00:58:45,740but on the I think when reality set in I
125600:58:43,940 --> 00:58:51,590would probably be
125700:58:45,739 --> 00:58:54,019Gared stiff yeah I I'm not sure what my
125800:58:51,590 --> 00:58:57,619reaction would be but you know my book
125900:58:54,019 --> 00:59:00,500is out there I'm hoping that if they
126000:58:57,619 --> 00:59:03,769exist they've read it and see that you
126100:59:00,500 --> 00:59:05,690know I've I've opened up a new theory
126200:59:03,769 --> 00:59:08,900some new theories there I found some new
126300:59:05,690 --> 00:59:12,019evidence I've put some pieces together
126400:59:08,900 --> 00:59:13,910that previously weren't put together and
126500:59:12,019 --> 00:59:17,079could have been put together because I
126600:59:13,909 --> 00:59:21,799was central to those stories and to
126700:59:17,079 --> 00:59:23,599identifying evidence and and and so
126800:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,490that's one of the things that makes my
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126900:59:23,599 --> 00:59:29,150book unique there's information in there
127000:59:25,489 --> 00:59:31,159that was never published in fact if we
127100:59:29,150 --> 00:59:33,230still have a time here in the first hour
127200:59:31,159 --> 00:59:36,859I'd like to tell you a Stanton Freeman's
127300:59:33,230 --> 00:59:38,750story about my book I would love a
127400:59:36,860 --> 00:59:42,650Stanton Friedman story and we have to
127500:59:38,750 --> 00:59:44,690get into him a little bit because when
127600:59:42,650 --> 00:59:47,210we talked about Roswell and the San
127700:59:44,690 --> 00:59:50,210Agustin crash earlier on in this program
127800:59:47,210 --> 00:59:51,858in the first half hour and I have had
127900:59:50,210 --> 00:59:54,829Gerald Anderson on this show who
128000:59:51,858 --> 00:59:57,259witnessed the crash as a five-year-old
128100:59:54,829 --> 00:59:58,819as well as reneik Arkin who is
128200:59:57,260 --> 01:00:01,550investigating that as well as art
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00:59:58,820 --> 01:00:04,430Campbell and Stanton Friedman has
128401:00:01,550 --> 01:00:06,710totally clashed with that entire story
128501:00:04,429 --> 01:00:08,480in that entire investigation clan in
128601:00:06,710 --> 01:00:10,340regards to what happened at San Agustin
128701:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,400so I think we need to get into that
128801:00:10,340 --> 01:00:15,019pretty heavy in the next half an hour
128901:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,180after the break what do you say about
129001:00:15,019 --> 01:00:19,670that
129101:00:16,179 --> 01:00:22,460great and the break will be coming up in
129201:00:19,670 --> 01:00:24,769about two minutes we just have okay
129301:00:22,460 --> 01:00:27,800great two minutes time my friend that's
129401:00:24,769 --> 01:00:30,289just the way and I can do that I can do
129501:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,930that and we'll just leave a cliffhanger
129601:00:30,289 --> 01:00:36,279at the International UFO Congress this
129701:00:32,929 --> 01:00:39,618
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year just weeks prior to that happening
129801:00:36,280 --> 01:00:41,570my book was published and friend of mine
129901:00:39,619 --> 01:00:43,760as a von Smith who's one of my endorsers
130001:00:41,570 --> 01:00:45,740and she said wonderful bring three dozen
130101:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,240copies with you and you can share my
130201:00:45,739 --> 01:00:49,009table and in return
130301:00:47,239 --> 01:00:51,858while I'm offering the experiencer
130401:00:49,010 --> 01:00:53,540sessions you can babysit my table and
130501:00:51,858 --> 01:00:56,750help sell my books which I was perfectly
130601:00:53,539 --> 01:00:59,068happy to do well guess whose table we
130701:00:56,750 --> 01:01:03,059were next to for the entire week
130801:00:59,068 --> 01:01:05,998Danton freemen wonderful man I had
130901:01:03,059 --> 01:01:08,009plenty of opportunity to talk to him and
131001:01:05,998 --> 01:01:11,098when we come back from the break I'll
131101:01:08,009 --> 01:01:13,409tell you about how he and I traded books
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131201:01:11,099 --> 01:01:15,479the circumstances that had happened and
131301:01:13,409 --> 01:01:18,449the conversation that we had regarding
131401:01:15,478 --> 01:01:21,509Gerald Anderson and the crash on the
131501:01:18,449 --> 01:01:24,269plains of san agustin well that's an
131601:01:21,509 --> 01:01:26,159interesting crash site because it is the
131701:01:24,268 --> 01:01:28,889Forgotten one of the Roswell incident
131801:01:26,159 --> 01:01:31,348that's the one that was pushed under the
131901:01:28,889 --> 01:01:33,328rug like dust muddies when company is
132001:01:31,349 --> 01:01:36,420quickly coming over unexpectedly it's
132101:01:33,329 --> 01:01:38,130amazing how that one was just swept
132201:01:36,420 --> 01:01:42,088right under I mean and yet they
132301:01:38,130 --> 01:01:45,869celebrate Roswell every year and there's
132401:01:42,088 --> 01:01:48,869no mention of it no mention I am I
132501:01:45,869 --> 01:01:52,289address it in my book in a chapter all
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132601:01:48,869 --> 01:01:54,690about the plains of San Agustin crash
132701:01:52,289 --> 01:01:56,849and what it means and the evidence and
132801:01:54,690 --> 01:01:59,599again we can get into that and I hate to
132901:01:56,849 --> 01:02:03,150you know give all of these unabashed
133001:01:59,599 --> 01:02:04,528sales pitches for the book but well I'm
133101:02:03,150 --> 01:02:06,028gonna get you to hold on the music's
133201:02:04,528 --> 01:02:07,708playing we're gonna step out you're
133301:02:06,028 --> 01:02:09,809listening to spaced out radio racial
133401:02:07,708 --> 01:02:12,958Manske is our guest 50 shades of grey
133501:02:09,809 --> 01:02:17,039get it on sale on Amazon right now we'll
133601:02:12,958 --> 01:02:19,348be back looking for news beyond the
133701:02:17,039 --> 01:02:22,140mainstream news headspace doubt
133801:02:19,349 --> 01:02:22,588radio.com and check out the SOR space
133901:02:22,139 --> 01:02:25,018water
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01:02:22,588 --> 01:02:27,268this is spaced out radios Eric Markham
134101:02:25,018 --> 01:02:29,728news director for the SOR space wire
134201:02:27,268 --> 01:02:31,679daily I will bring you the treating
134301:02:29,728 --> 01:02:34,129stories outlandish reports and what's
134401:02:31,679 --> 01:02:36,798going on around the world UFO sightings
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Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
out there people are seeing and
135501:02:59,278 --> 01:03:03,690experiencing things from et contact a
135601:03:01,498 --> 01:03:05,488Bigfoot and I want to hear about it your
135701:03:03,690 --> 01:03:07,048experiences or what we investigators
135801:03:05,489 --> 01:03:08,710need to help solve these unknown
135901:03:07,048 --> 01:03:17,050mysteries so to
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136101:03:17,050 --> 01:03:22,140salutations space travelers from The
136201:03:18,940 --> 01:03:22,139Chronicles of the unknown team
136301:03:22,318 --> 01:03:28,539what is corpuscle Bilbo
136401:03:24,608 --> 01:03:30,338I keep hearing about this thing it's a
136501:03:28,539 --> 01:03:32,050new paranormal reality TV show based
136601:03:30,338 --> 01:03:35,108right here in beautiful British Columbia
136701:03:32,050 --> 01:03:37,269Canada follow our team as we uncover
136801:03:35,108 --> 01:03:40,179claims of activity on the caribou Gold
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136901:03:37,269 --> 01:03:42,219Rush trail you can also follow us here
137001:03:40,179 --> 01:03:43,779every third Monday where two members of
137101:03:42,219 --> 01:03:45,549our team will be available to answer
137201:03:43,780 --> 01:03:47,019your questions have you ever wondered
137301:03:45,550 --> 01:03:48,400about those weird and strange creatures
137401:03:47,019 --> 01:03:50,889people have reported throughout history
137501:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,539you wonder if those stories are real me
137601:03:50,889 --> 01:03:53,558too and that's why I started cryptokey
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137801:03:53,559 --> 01:03:58,510hey this is Rob Murphy crypto historians
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138001:03:58,510 --> 01:04:02,140with Dave Scott where we will get into
138101:03:59,949 --> 01:04:03,818the odd and bizarre reports from the
138201:04:02,139 --> 01:04:05,618Dover demon to hairy hominids and
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140301:04:54,608 --> 01:04:59,440the forest awed happenings right out of
140401:04:57,159 --> 01:05:02,199a fictional world these are the reports
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140601:05:02,199 --> 01:05:06,089Murphy and I would love it if you joined
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from walkman to frogman everything in
141201:05:17,010 --> 01:05:22,380between hey they don't call me the cook
141301:05:19,079 --> 01:05:24,360though guru for nothing are you an
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142601:05:55,949 --> 01:06:00,750feature video that spaced-out radio.com
142701:05:57,659 --> 01:06:02,789where i vince and zooms ax and my super
142801:06:00,750 --> 01:06:04,500sleuth partner alexandra sullivan
142901:06:02,789 --> 01:06:06,000tracked down the weird and strange
143001:06:04,500 --> 01:06:09,030stories from around the Pacific
143101:06:06,000 --> 01:06:11,610Northwest from Bigfoot to Mel's hole and
143201:06:09,030 --> 01:06:14,250everything in between this is what makes
143301:06:11,610 --> 01:06:16,500life exciting the Y reports are normal
143401:06:14,250 --> 01:06:21,139can read the report the Pacific North
143501:06:16,500 --> 01:06:21,139weird right here at spaced out radio
143601:06:35,610 --> 01:06:39,329[Music]
143701:06:37,340 --> 01:06:42,019have you ever had an extraterrestrial
143801:06:39,329 --> 01:06:44,009experience one you just couldn't explain
143901:06:42,019 --> 01:06:47,460well maybe I can help
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144001:06:44,010 --> 01:06:49,290hello I am Samantha mullet on the second
144101:06:47,460 --> 01:06:51,449Tuesday of each month I will join Dave
144201:06:49,289 --> 01:06:54,150Scott on Spaceship radio to bring a
144301:06:51,449 --> 01:06:55,619human aspect to eg contact it's
144401:06:54,150 --> 01:06:57,690something I have lived with my entire
144501:06:55,619 --> 01:07:00,989life and I'd love to help you understand
144601:06:57,690 --> 01:07:02,789let's share our experiences the et
144701:07:00,989 --> 01:07:06,000experience the second Tuesday of each
144801:07:02,789 --> 01:07:08,369month only on spaced-out radio hi there
144901:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,769this is Joleen with rivulet reichian
145001:07:08,369 --> 01:07:12,329readings and I want you to relax let me
145101:07:10,769 --> 01:07:14,639help you chill out and get in touch with
145201:07:12,329 --> 01:07:16,769your body mind and soul in this busy
145301:07:14,639 --> 01:07:18,869world sometimes we need to let go and
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01:07:16,769 --> 01:07:20,130this is where I can help visit my
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145701:07:23,539 --> 01:07:30,900R&R every Saturday and Sunday night as
145801:07:27,780 --> 01:07:32,820Dave Scott wanders aimlessly in the
145901:07:30,900 --> 01:07:34,829wilderness you can come hang out with me
146001:07:32,820 --> 01:07:36,570James Tyson and spaced-out and weekend
146101:07:34,829 --> 01:07:39,299we're starting at 9 p.m. Pacific
146201:07:36,570 --> 01:07:41,220midnight Eastern I'll take you along as
146301:07:39,300 --> 01:07:44,400we talk with some of the best experts in
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supernatural intuitiveness and so much
146901:07:52,500 --> 01:07:57,780more hope to see you there hi there this
147001:07:55,380 --> 01:07:59,340is your psychic medium Joanna and I
147101:07:57,780 --> 01:08:02,700would love it if you would join us every
147201:07:59,340 --> 01:08:04,590other Sunday on space that weekend with
147301:08:02,699 --> 01:08:06,839host James Tyson will bring your
147401:08:04,590 --> 01:08:09,690personal psychic messages on two mediums
147501:08:06,840 --> 01:08:12,059in a large questions about love life
147601:08:09,690 --> 01:08:15,150career changes we would love it if you
147701:08:12,059 --> 01:08:16,920would come and join us live call-in and
147801:08:15,150 --> 01:08:19,408listen in for the experience
147901:08:16,920 --> 01:08:22,829allow us to open the doors to your other
148001:08:19,408 --> 01:08:25,108side two mediums in a large herd only on
148101:08:22,829 --> 01:08:27,838space that weekend at spaced-out
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149001:08:41,579 --> 01:08:44,000today
149101:08:46,930 --> 01:08:51,350[Music]
149201:08:48,859 --> 01:08:53,239do you have a topic or a guest that
149301:08:51,350 --> 01:08:55,489you'd like to hear on spaced-out radio
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149701:09:00,770 --> 01:09:04,819on twitter at space out radio and on our
149801:09:03,710 --> 01:09:07,880Facebook page
149901:09:04,819 --> 01:09:09,469spaced out radio show welcome back down
150001:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,199we're number 2 of space town radio
150101:09:09,469 --> 01:09:14,689tonight good to have you along for
150201:09:11,198 --> 01:09:16,519tonight's ride as we continue along the
150301:09:14,689 --> 01:09:18,618ET highway here
150401:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,989tonight's password in the sy our space
150501:09:18,618 --> 01:09:24,139travelers set by bill card well is
150601:09:20,988 --> 01:09:25,968enigmatic 'l enigmatical is your
150701:09:24,139 --> 01:09:28,009password for tonight he actually made
150801:09:25,969 --> 01:09:30,319one i could pronounce thank you bill for
150901:09:28,009 --> 01:09:32,509taking it easy on me after coming off
151001:09:30,319 --> 01:09:34,400that migraine last night I didn't want
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01:09:32,509 --> 01:09:36,319to apologize to all our listeners I know
151201:09:34,399 --> 01:09:38,358I don't have to you've already said that
151301:09:36,319 --> 01:09:40,489but I had to skip last night's show I
151401:09:38,359 --> 01:09:44,719came down with a migraine a couple hours
151501:09:40,488 --> 01:09:47,568before the show and luckily a good
151601:09:44,719 --> 01:09:49,100session of Reiki helped me out and a lot
151701:09:47,569 --> 01:09:52,310of sleep I ended up getting some sleep
151801:09:49,100 --> 01:09:54,639last night and I am all better today so
151901:09:52,310 --> 01:09:56,900thank you so much for your patience and
152001:09:54,639 --> 01:09:59,539unfortunately me having to cancel last
152101:09:56,899 --> 01:10:02,719night's show due to a migraine but we're
152201:09:59,539 --> 01:10:06,289off and running tonight tomorrow night
152301:10:02,719 --> 01:10:08,448on the show the paranormal Housewives of
152401:10:06,289 --> 01:10:10,189California are going to join us we're
152501:10:08,448 --> 01:10:13,428
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
going to talk about this all woman
152601:10:10,189 --> 01:10:16,219paranormal team and Kristen a thorn who
152701:10:13,429 --> 01:10:17,960has been a guest on this show her group
152801:10:16,219 --> 01:10:19,939the paranormal housewives will be with
152901:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,579us 9 p.m. Pacific midnight eastern time
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153401:10:29,118 --> 01:10:33,859donate today we want to say hello to
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153701:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,879appreciate you guys taking the time to
153801:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,800be with us as well you know who you are
153901:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,868thank you so much for being along for
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155401:11:12,260 --> 01:11:15,739the SOR space wire if you want the
155501:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,649latest weird news you can read my latest
155601:11:15,738 --> 01:11:20,479blog and the blogs of our teammates mine
155701:11:18,649 --> 01:11:22,699is on Bigfoot this week everything
155801:11:20,479 --> 01:11:24,409that's spaced out radio.com tonight we
155901:11:22,699 --> 01:11:27,109are talking with the author of fifty
156001:11:24,409 --> 01:11:30,079shades of Gray's yes
156101:11:27,109 --> 01:11:31,880aliens were talking Rachel Minsky is our
156201:11:30,079 --> 01:11:36,738guest ray thank you so much for being
156301:11:31,880 --> 01:11:38,270with us thanks Dave it's awesome right
156401:11:36,738 --> 01:11:40,250before the break we kind of teased the
156501:11:38,270 --> 01:11:44,210audience that you know for many who
156601:11:40,250 --> 01:11:46,850don't know there was two crashes in Roz
156701:11:44,210 --> 01:11:49,460or in New Mexico Roswell is the famous
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01:11:46,850 --> 01:11:52,039one the little known one is San Agustin
156901:11:49,460 --> 01:11:54,560and to be honest with you I had no clue
157001:11:52,039 --> 01:11:55,369this crash exists until I had about a
157101:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,950year and a half ago
157201:11:55,369 --> 01:12:00,260Arendt Campbell on the show which led to
157301:11:57,949 --> 01:12:03,500reneik Arkin which led to a gentleman
157401:12:00,260 --> 01:12:06,470named Gerald Anderson who at five years
157501:12:03,500 --> 01:12:09,500old him his father his cousin and his
157601:12:06,470 --> 01:12:11,449uncle and his brother actually walked up
157701:12:09,500 --> 01:12:13,819on this crash site while they were
157801:12:11,449 --> 01:12:17,389looking for agates in the mountains and
157901:12:13,819 --> 01:12:19,219it's an amazing crash site that has been
158001:12:17,390 --> 01:12:21,710swept under the rug they were there for
158101:12:19,220 --> 01:12:26,90030 minutes before the military arrived
158201:12:21,710 --> 01:12:29,060
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what do you know about San Agustin well
158301:12:26,899 --> 01:12:32,719I've had several conversations with
158401:12:29,060 --> 01:12:36,020Gerald Anderson and I've had many
158501:12:32,720 --> 01:12:39,110conversations and information exchanged
158601:12:36,020 --> 01:12:41,989with art Campbell reneik Arkin is a
158701:12:39,109 --> 01:12:43,399friend of mines he's overwhelms my email
158801:12:41,988 --> 01:12:47,629box with a lot of stuff is very
158901:12:43,399 --> 01:12:50,299productive and the story is that as you
159001:12:47,630 --> 01:12:50,779as you mentioned Gerald was five years
159101:12:50,300 --> 01:12:54,140old
159201:12:50,779 --> 01:12:56,420and he was on the plane to Santa Goosen
159301:12:54,140 --> 01:13:00,440which is a couple hundred miles outside
159401:12:56,420 --> 01:13:03,579of Roswell and they came across the the
159501:13:00,439 --> 01:13:07,189craft craft military came along shortly
159601:13:03,579 --> 01:13:08,960there were indications that a surveyor a
Spaced Out Radio - Sept. 7_16 - 50 Shades of GREYS with Ray Szymanski_ZdCcbAxK5ok - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 13:25:53]
159701:13:07,189 --> 01:13:12,019government surveyor by the name of
159801:13:08,960 --> 01:13:14,600Barney Barnett was out there there was
159901:13:12,020 --> 01:13:16,340not indications that there was an
160001:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,770archeological
160101:13:16,340 --> 01:13:21,890professor out there with a group and
160201:13:18,770 --> 01:13:24,080they saw the crafts they saw the craft
160301:13:21,890 --> 01:13:26,210come down the night before so they made
160401:13:24,079 --> 01:13:28,369a trek over you know when daylight
160501:13:26,210 --> 01:13:31,100happened and so there were supposedly
160601:13:28,369 --> 01:13:34,750several witnesses in addition to Gerald
160701:13:31,100 --> 01:13:41,030Anderson well
160801:13:34,750 --> 01:13:46,489the issue with Roswell is this so many
160901:13:41,029 --> 01:13:50,269people depend on Roswell as their cash
161001:13:46,489 --> 01:13:52,880cow and I'm sure I'm going to get a lot
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161101:13:50,270 --> 01:13:55,610of hate mail for this and it's not their
161201:13:52,880 --> 01:13:59,449fault you know they did a lot of very
161301:13:55,609 --> 01:14:01,549good research they brought this story
161401:13:59,449 --> 01:14:03,729out when it had been buried for thirty
161501:14:01,550 --> 01:14:06,829years by the government they wrote
161601:14:03,729 --> 01:14:10,219fantastic books you know they've got a
161701:14:06,829 --> 01:14:14,059museum but there's a lot of money tied
161801:14:10,220 --> 01:14:16,340up in Roswell and most of the people who
161901:14:14,060 --> 01:14:20,600are into UFOs cut their teeth on Roswell
162001:14:16,340 --> 01:14:24,440so it's basically a sacred cow well
162101:14:20,600 --> 01:14:26,750along comes the story of a second class
162201:14:24,439 --> 01:14:31,549class now how could that have happen you
162301:14:26,750 --> 01:14:34,279know imagine two spacecraft coming
162401:14:31,550 --> 01:14:36,829together you know the unstoppable object
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01:14:34,279 --> 01:14:39,710hits the unmovable object and they tear
162601:14:36,829 --> 01:14:43,100holes in each other one falls in Corona
162701:14:39,710 --> 01:14:46,399seventy miles north of of Roswell and
162801:14:43,100 --> 01:14:48,740the other one you know rebounds and
162901:14:46,399 --> 01:14:50,509catches some energy and it flies out of
163001:14:48,739 --> 01:14:56,239control and crashes on the plains of San
163101:14:50,510 --> 01:14:58,520Agustin so what you have in Roswell is
163201:14:56,239 --> 01:15:01,939you have a very handy work force you
163301:14:58,520 --> 01:15:03,770have all those Airmen doing their jobs
163401:15:01,939 --> 01:15:06,469and suddenly they've got to go pick up
163501:15:03,770 --> 01:15:10,790this silvery trash on the foster ranch
163601:15:06,470 --> 01:15:14,000in Corona New Mexico and there were
163701:15:10,789 --> 01:15:16,279witnesses to this happening and so they
163801:15:14,000 --> 01:15:19,310bring those guys out and they bring all
163901:15:16,279 --> 01:15:22,309
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the material back meanwhile on the same
164001:15:19,310 --> 01:15:25,670evening a second crash happens on the
164101:15:22,310 --> 01:15:27,920plains of san agustin well there is no
164201:15:25,670 --> 01:15:29,690handy work force nearby I'm not how many
164301:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,969hundreds of miles it wasn't
164401:15:29,689 --> 01:15:34,549space but the best that they could do
164501:15:31,969 --> 01:15:37,520was you know get a few troops of him
164601:15:34,550 --> 01:15:43,250trucks out there take what they could
164701:15:37,520 --> 01:15:45,800and bulldoze the rest into the plains of
164801:15:43,250 --> 01:15:49,520San Agustin where Roswell was picked
164901:15:45,800 --> 01:15:54,650clean that's not what they could do out
165001:15:49,520 --> 01:15:57,290on the second site so Jarrell tells a
165101:15:54,649 --> 01:16:00,799story and I quite honestly don't know
165201:15:57,289 --> 01:16:04,010how the whole Plains thing came to
165301:16:00,800 --> 01:16:08,449fruition I if I dig deep I think
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165401:16:04,010 --> 01:16:10,430somebody told the Roswell story and
165501:16:08,448 --> 01:16:13,759Gerald saw it in the newspaper and said
165601:16:10,430 --> 01:16:16,880hey maybe they're talking about my class
165701:16:13,760 --> 01:16:19,640and then he discovered no it's Roswell
165801:16:16,880 --> 01:16:21,680and he knew he wasn't in Roswell so
165901:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,960suddenly he contacted probably Stanton
166001:16:21,680 --> 01:16:28,430Friedman who then interviewed him and
166101:16:23,960 --> 01:16:29,840fully believed this story so what kind
166201:16:28,430 --> 01:16:32,449of up to speed there yes there was a
166301:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,279second crash and you mentioned our
166401:16:32,448 --> 01:16:38,119Campbell and he had apartment Chuck Wade
166501:16:34,279 --> 01:16:42,349and for a decade or so they went out to
166601:16:38,119 --> 01:16:45,590a site that Stanton Friedman had pointed
166701:16:42,350 --> 01:16:47,719out to him by Gerald Anderson and they
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166801:16:45,590 --> 01:16:50,449went and they did this archeological dig
166901:16:47,719 --> 01:16:52,760every summer and they discovered little
167001:16:50,448 --> 01:16:57,198pieces of metal which they eventually
167101:16:52,760 --> 01:16:59,900had tested I the proper laboratories
167201:16:57,198 --> 01:17:02,299with high-tech equipment in the bottom
167301:16:59,899 --> 01:17:04,670line I believe the book if a spiral
167401:17:02,300 --> 01:17:07,880bound book put up by art Campbell and it
167501:17:04,670 --> 01:17:14,569was called finding the UFO crash at San
167601:17:07,880 --> 01:17:18,020Agustin the results of the tests were
167701:17:14,569 --> 01:17:23,090conclusive and the conclusions became to
167801:17:18,020 --> 01:17:28,130is the isotopic ratios of the material
167901:17:23,090 --> 01:17:31,219as tested and and proven by independent
168001:17:28,130 --> 01:17:33,500laboratories is that this material was
168101:17:31,219 --> 01:17:39,560more than likely not made on planet
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01:17:33,500 --> 01:17:41,939earth so if you think about this you
168301:17:39,560 --> 01:17:45,000have
168401:17:41,939 --> 01:17:48,419a second class site that's not the cash
168501:17:45,000 --> 01:17:51,260cow that's not the Holy Grail that's not
168601:17:48,420 --> 01:17:54,060been in the public consciousness since
168701:17:51,260 --> 01:17:57,2391979 or whatever the crash at Corona
168801:17:54,060 --> 01:18:01,920came out suddenly you have a second
168901:17:57,239 --> 01:18:05,550class site that not only is reasonable
169001:18:01,920 --> 01:18:08,970and documents prove that there were
169101:18:05,550 --> 01:18:13,710other witnesses besides Gerald there you
169201:18:08,970 --> 01:18:17,159have more evidence available then has
169301:18:13,710 --> 01:18:21,060been dug up in Roswell since 1979 you
169401:18:17,159 --> 01:18:24,059have material from the crash site which
169501:18:21,060 --> 01:18:28,289was dug up in conclusively proven not to
169601:18:24,060 --> 01:18:31,200
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be of this earth I have the book in my
169701:18:28,289 --> 01:18:37,649hand right now that art Campbell
169801:18:31,199 --> 01:18:41,729actually signed for me and this crash do
169901:18:37,649 --> 01:18:43,909you believe the theory because that's
170001:18:41,729 --> 01:18:49,199all we can call it is that these two
170101:18:43,909 --> 01:18:51,659spacecraft collided over New Mexico as a
170201:18:49,199 --> 01:18:54,059result of not only the heavy radar
170301:18:51,659 --> 01:18:57,479during that time with all the nuclear
170401:18:54,060 --> 01:18:59,700testing going on but also maybe as a
170501:18:57,479 --> 01:19:02,329result of weather because that night
170601:18:59,699 --> 01:19:05,220there was supposedly a very large
170701:19:02,329 --> 01:19:07,109lightning storm going on and they think
170801:19:05,220 --> 01:19:09,420between the radar at least this is what
170901:19:07,109 --> 01:19:12,000Gerald Anderson told me he believes in
171001:19:09,420 --> 01:19:13,470his theory that between the radar that
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171101:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,420was going on combined with the
171201:19:13,470 --> 01:19:17,490thunderstorm and the lightning that was
171301:19:15,420 --> 01:19:20,250going that maybe lightning hit one of
171401:19:17,489 --> 01:19:22,199them they ended up colliding one crashes
171501:19:20,250 --> 01:19:23,760in san agustin the other one crashes in
171601:19:22,199 --> 01:19:27,079Corona which becomes the Roswell
171701:19:23,760 --> 01:19:30,539incident what is your theory on that
171801:19:27,079 --> 01:19:33,479both of those are plausible rather than
171901:19:30,539 --> 01:19:37,260you know lightning striking the craft I
172001:19:33,479 --> 01:19:39,949would think that maybe radar and/or the
172101:19:37,260 --> 01:19:42,720Lightning caused a glitch in the
172201:19:39,949 --> 01:19:45,899navigational capabilities and you know
172301:19:42,720 --> 01:19:49,530these things are moving at you know a
172401:19:45,899 --> 01:19:52,469hundred times the speed of light there's
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172501:19:49,529 --> 01:19:54,389you know how what kind of earth distance
172601:19:52,470 --> 01:19:55,708they could travel in just a couple of
172701:19:54,390 --> 01:19:59,429seconds right you know with
172801:19:55,708 --> 01:20:02,969and nanoseconds so if they if they just
172901:19:59,429 --> 01:20:04,769had a very small glitch in only one of
173001:20:02,969 --> 01:20:07,800the navigational systems for whatever
173101:20:04,769 --> 01:20:11,130reason a collision is certainly possible
173201:20:07,800 --> 01:20:14,369and and the conditions were right to
173301:20:11,130 --> 01:20:16,019give you more than one reason for that
173401:20:14,368 --> 01:20:18,389interference to have happened so you
173501:20:16,019 --> 01:20:20,280know Gerald series as good as any I
173601:20:18,389 --> 01:20:22,229certainly would buy that you know my
173701:20:20,279 --> 01:20:23,639bachelor's degree is in electrical
173801:20:22,229 --> 01:20:25,729engineering so I have a little bit of
1739
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01:20:23,639 --> 01:20:30,090background in those type of things
174001:20:25,729 --> 01:20:32,179certainly plausible so I I'm not sure
174101:20:30,090 --> 01:20:35,578that you're aware of this but you know
174201:20:32,179 --> 01:20:37,559and art had been out there for several
174301:20:35,578 --> 01:20:42,208years and they were finding small pieces
174401:20:37,559 --> 01:20:44,880of debris and finally Gerald said well
174501:20:42,208 --> 01:20:47,248guys I'd love to go out there and hunt
174601:20:44,880 --> 01:20:52,788with you have you ever used a metal
174701:20:47,248 --> 01:20:54,868detector and Ergun sucks it no and
174801:20:52,788 --> 01:20:56,219Gerald was like you gotta be kidding me
174901:20:54,868 --> 01:20:58,828so in 2011
175001:20:56,219 --> 01:21:01,170Gerald joins them and they show him
175101:20:58,828 --> 01:21:02,969where they've been prospecting for these
175201:21:01,170 --> 01:21:05,908pieces and where they dug stuff up and
175301:21:02,969 --> 01:21:08,849
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Gerald said and this is just crazy to
175401:21:05,908 --> 01:21:11,158think that all this time went by and
175501:21:08,849 --> 01:21:12,360Gerald didn't participate in the dig but
175601:21:11,158 --> 01:21:14,069there were some things that were going
175701:21:12,359 --> 01:21:15,569on in the background and we'll get to
175801:21:14,069 --> 01:21:18,238those because I want to get back to the
175901:21:15,569 --> 01:21:21,090story of how Stanton freedom and got a
176001:21:18,238 --> 01:21:24,718copy of my book and it involves Gerald
176101:21:21,090 --> 01:21:27,719in some way so he goes out there in 2011
176201:21:24,719 --> 01:21:29,429and he takes a metal detector with them
176301:21:27,719 --> 01:21:32,788finds out where they're digging and said
176401:21:29,429 --> 01:21:34,889boys you're close but no cigar and he
176501:21:32,788 --> 01:21:37,828goes over like you know a hundred yards
176601:21:34,889 --> 01:21:42,689away and suddenly the metal detector
176701:21:37,828 --> 01:21:46,349goes crazy and they dig up a surface new
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176801:21:42,689 --> 01:21:49,679material honeycomb material and just you
176901:21:46,349 --> 01:21:52,769know and and it was like aha moment for
177001:21:49,679 --> 01:21:54,689everybody because and and the end of the
177101:21:52,769 --> 01:21:56,789bunkers the skeptics the people who
177201:21:54,689 --> 01:21:59,789absolutely make no contribution
177301:21:56,788 --> 01:22:01,978whatsoever to not only do follow gee but
177401:21:59,788 --> 01:22:04,438they're just a waste of space and a
177501:22:01,979 --> 01:22:06,329waste of oxygen on this planet in my
177601:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,699estimate and here comes the hate mail
177701:22:06,328 --> 01:22:09,479I'm going to love it they say well
177801:22:08,698 --> 01:22:13,469Gerald plan
177901:22:09,479 --> 01:22:16,109the material impossible it was done
178001:22:13,470 --> 01:22:17,760under strict controls and this material
178101:22:16,109 --> 01:22:22,409was eventually tested to be not of this
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178201:22:17,760 --> 01:22:27,270planet so if Gerald planted the material
178301:22:22,409 --> 01:22:31,979it only strengthens his case because it
178401:22:27,270 --> 01:22:33,720means that Gerald had found material not
178501:22:31,979 --> 01:22:36,029made of this planet when he was five
178601:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,640years old stored it away for 60-some
178701:22:36,029 --> 01:22:40,670years and then brought it out of hiding
178801:22:37,640 --> 01:22:44,190when he decided to go on an expedition
178901:22:40,670 --> 01:22:47,609with these people so listen closely
179001:22:44,189 --> 01:22:50,129debunkers if Gerald Anderson planted
179101:22:47,609 --> 01:22:52,559their material it was not of his planet
179201:22:50,130 --> 01:22:53,100and he had kept it hidden for sixty
179301:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,160years
179401:22:53,100 --> 01:22:59,640so not a possibility not under the
179501:22:56,159 --> 01:23:03,029controls that were in vogue when they
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01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:07,590went out to do this hunt so it was a
179701:23:03,029 --> 01:23:09,630Tata moment an aha moment and you know
179801:23:07,590 --> 01:23:11,489Gerald had nothing to gain by this
179901:23:09,630 --> 01:23:15,480you know Gerald didn't write a book that
180001:23:11,488 --> 01:23:19,049I know of he wasn't doing a tour he was
180101:23:15,479 --> 01:23:21,899just trying to recollect some dignity
180201:23:19,050 --> 01:23:24,630because is this a good moment for you to
180301:23:21,899 --> 01:23:27,869get into the Gerald a understand some
180401:23:24,630 --> 01:23:29,489real controversy we can get into it and
180501:23:27,869 --> 01:23:31,890I think our audience needs to know a
180601:23:29,488 --> 01:23:34,229little bit more about Gerald because
180701:23:31,890 --> 01:23:36,930when he had this sighting he was only
180801:23:34,229 --> 01:23:40,349five years old and when he spoke on this
180901:23:36,930 --> 01:23:43,950show in January of 2015 this was the
181001:23:40,350 --> 01:23:47,370
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first show that he had done in over 22
181101:23:43,949 --> 01:23:50,429years because he felt like he was
181201:23:47,369 --> 01:23:52,859absolutely ostracized for coming out and
181301:23:50,430 --> 01:23:54,630saying what he saw and he had people
181401:23:52,859 --> 01:23:56,309coming through and he said this on the
181501:23:54,630 --> 01:23:58,859air he had people coming through to him
181601:23:56,310 --> 01:24:01,020and up to him saying there is no way you
181701:23:58,859 --> 01:24:03,389could remember any of that at five years
181801:24:01,020 --> 01:24:06,000old obviously your imagination is
181901:24:03,390 --> 01:24:10,050playing you've over stretched some of
182001:24:06,000 --> 01:24:11,130these stories but on the flip side he
182101:24:10,050 --> 01:24:13,619lived on a base
182201:24:11,130 --> 01:24:16,890his father was a technician on a
182301:24:13,619 --> 01:24:19,409military base and he would run around
182401:24:16,890 --> 01:24:20,969like all the rest of the kids going to
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182501:24:19,409 --> 01:24:23,250the military swimming pool because he
182601:24:20,969 --> 01:24:25,439had passes and he would be full
182701:24:23,250 --> 01:24:27,119everything so I would love for you to
182801:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,919tell a little bit more story if you
182901:24:27,119 --> 01:24:33,180don't mind about who Gerald Anderson is
183001:24:28,920 --> 01:24:34,920I wish I could share that with you you
183101:24:33,180 --> 01:24:37,440know I've had some some private
183201:24:34,920 --> 01:24:39,719conversations with Gerald and
183301:24:37,439 --> 01:24:43,529unfortunately I'm gonna keep them there
183401:24:39,719 --> 01:24:45,779but what I think I can share is that you
183501:24:43,529 --> 01:24:47,460know Gerald Anderson came out with these
183601:24:45,779 --> 01:24:50,309claims and he came out of nowhere
183701:24:47,460 --> 01:24:51,270because he'd seen a show on television I
183801:24:50,310 --> 01:24:53,580think that's what it was
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183901:24:51,270 --> 01:24:55,170he saw still on television and he
184001:24:53,579 --> 01:24:57,479thought they were talking about his
184101:24:55,170 --> 01:25:00,300craft and when he contacted those
184201:24:57,479 --> 01:25:02,159producers he did he discovered it was
184301:25:00,300 --> 01:25:05,489Roswell and not the plains of santoku
184401:25:02,159 --> 01:25:07,710Stan and I think the producers were
184501:25:05,488 --> 01:25:09,629connected to Stanton Friedman and then
184601:25:07,710 --> 01:25:14,189he talked to Stanton and told the story
184701:25:09,630 --> 01:25:17,930and and the reason that I think he was
184801:25:14,189 --> 01:25:20,729so reviled is because this would have
184901:25:17,930 --> 01:25:24,180directed attention away from the Roswell
185001:25:20,729 --> 01:25:27,059cast cow and there were people who took
185101:25:24,180 --> 01:25:31,190huge exception to him like Kevin Randle
185201:25:27,060 --> 01:25:33,840and others because they were making
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01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:35,250getting gobs of attention I'll say that
185401:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,989much I don't know how much money they
185501:25:35,250 --> 01:25:39,448were making but they were getting gobs
185601:25:36,988 --> 01:25:41,189of attention over their connection in
185701:25:39,448 --> 01:25:43,738the books they wrote about Roswell
185801:25:41,189 --> 01:25:47,339so here's a guy coming out going well
185901:25:43,738 --> 01:25:48,929you know there's enough story for us to
186001:25:47,340 --> 01:25:50,460share you know it's possible because I
186101:25:48,930 --> 01:25:52,890know when I was where I was
186201:25:50,460 --> 01:25:57,329unfortunately you know I don't have the
186301:25:52,890 --> 01:26:01,980evidence I need and they thought he was
186401:25:57,329 --> 01:26:04,229a poacher so here was the downfall and I
186501:26:01,979 --> 01:26:08,879I think this is a good time to segue
186601:26:04,229 --> 01:26:14,099into that Gerald got angry with Kevin
186701:26:08,880 --> 01:26:17,430
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Randle and he thought he could cast
186801:26:14,100 --> 01:26:19,410aspersions on Kevin by showing that
186901:26:17,430 --> 01:26:22,079Kevin was putting out false information
187001:26:19,409 --> 01:26:25,979so what Darryl did and this is a huge
187101:26:22,079 --> 01:26:26,550mistake he because Kevin wouldn't accept
187201:26:25,979 --> 01:26:28,619the story
187301:26:26,550 --> 01:26:30,810he wanted to prove to the world that
187401:26:28,619 --> 01:26:35,689Kevin had not interviewed him long
187501:26:30,810 --> 01:26:37,330enough to get all the facts so Gerald
187601:26:35,689 --> 01:26:41,409fabricated
187701:26:37,329 --> 01:26:43,930a phone bill that would show that he
187801:26:41,409 --> 01:26:45,460didn't talk to Kevin for an hour would
187901:26:43,930 --> 01:26:50,020show he only talked to him for like 30
188001:26:45,460 --> 01:26:54,939minutes and that was a terrible thing to
188101:26:50,020 --> 01:26:57,130do so eventually they contacted the
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188201:26:54,939 --> 01:27:00,309researchers I think Stanton among them
188301:26:57,130 --> 01:27:03,190and Kevin they went and had em and I got
188401:27:00,310 --> 01:27:04,870the actual bill and it proved that Kevin
188501:27:03,189 --> 01:27:11,169was collect that had been at least an
188601:27:04,869 --> 01:27:14,289hour of an interview well because Gerald
188701:27:11,170 --> 01:27:16,840had little evidence other four years
188801:27:14,289 --> 01:27:19,090other than going back in 2011 and
188901:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,619finding the mother lode of all of this
189001:27:19,090 --> 01:27:22,569material that tested to be
189101:27:20,619 --> 01:27:28,680extraterrestrial he had nothing at that
189201:27:22,569 --> 01:27:30,579point except memories and that's really
189301:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,950everyone trying to guess and in fact
189401:27:30,579 --> 01:27:35,289Stanton Friedman turned against him and
189501:27:32,949 --> 01:27:37,920Stanton was as Li wrote him up in the
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189601:27:35,289 --> 01:27:40,060book yeah you interviewed him had him
189701:27:37,920 --> 01:27:45,699polygraph which he passed with flying
189801:27:40,060 --> 01:27:47,200colors so fast forward now and and you
189901:27:45,699 --> 01:27:49,239know even in this book Stanton did
190001:27:47,199 --> 01:27:50,800revision saying you know I have to
190101:27:49,239 --> 01:27:55,029change my mind I have to back away from
190201:27:50,800 --> 01:27:58,720my support of Gerald Anderson fast
190301:27:55,029 --> 01:28:01,989forward to 2015 International UFO
190401:27:58,720 --> 01:28:04,990Congress Stanton Friedman is occupying
190501:28:01,989 --> 01:28:09,569the table at the expo immediately next
190601:28:04,989 --> 01:28:12,510to of on Smith's now my book has four
190701:28:09,569 --> 01:28:15,449wonderful people for world-class experts
190801:28:12,510 --> 01:28:17,619who are my endorsers and their
190901:28:15,449 --> 01:28:19,989endorsements are found on the back cover
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01:28:17,619 --> 01:28:21,760the book the first is Nick Pope
191101:28:19,989 --> 01:28:24,039everybody knows him and loves them
191201:28:21,760 --> 01:28:26,369Yvonne Smith the same thing with the
191301:28:24,039 --> 01:28:30,340Fonz has been one of the world's top
191401:28:26,369 --> 01:28:32,829regressed in this four years the person
191501:28:30,340 --> 01:28:37,840who put the Roswell movie together paul
191601:28:32,829 --> 01:28:41,470davids and the person who wrote the UFOs
191701:28:37,840 --> 01:28:45,340over Topanga Canyon UFOs over Arizona
191801:28:41,470 --> 01:28:47,710Preston Denham so Avon's table is up
191901:28:45,340 --> 01:28:50,470front sits right next to Stanton
192001:28:47,710 --> 01:28:51,960Friedman and he and I conversed every
192101:28:50,470 --> 01:28:55,570chance we get
192201:28:51,960 --> 01:28:58,090well there was a moment when lunch was
192301:28:55,569 --> 01:29:00,698over the crowd went back to the expo on
192401:28:58,090 --> 01:29:03,130
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his off his table partner Kathleen
192501:29:00,698 --> 01:29:04,659Mardon everyone knows her she goes off
192601:29:03,130 --> 01:29:07,480and takes a break maybe grabs a lunch
192701:29:04,659 --> 01:29:10,109and I get on the other side of Staunton
192801:29:07,479 --> 01:29:12,009and you know I want to have a low-key
192901:29:10,109 --> 01:29:14,229conversation because I want to ask him a
193001:29:12,010 --> 01:29:18,340key question about the plains of san
193101:29:14,229 --> 01:29:19,959agustin and and by that point Stanton
193201:29:18,340 --> 01:29:21,850had already grabbed a copy of my book
193301:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,170and we had exchanged those hymns a funny
193401:29:21,850 --> 01:29:25,840story that would be later
193501:29:23,170 --> 01:29:28,119I said Stanton here's something I got to
193601:29:25,840 --> 01:29:31,360know you know you first supported Gerald
193701:29:28,119 --> 01:29:33,729Anderson and you backed out in him and I
193801:29:31,359 --> 01:29:37,420wrote a little section in my book about
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193901:29:33,729 --> 01:29:39,698that incident and I got a no now you
194001:29:37,420 --> 01:29:43,060know it's too late for my book for this
194101:29:39,698 --> 01:29:46,929edition but what's your current stance
194201:29:43,060 --> 01:29:49,800on Gerald Anderson was he had a class
194301:29:46,930 --> 01:29:53,560site on the plains of Santa Cruz town
194401:29:49,800 --> 01:29:56,110and with the famous pause you know he
194501:29:53,560 --> 01:29:58,420strokes his beard like okay you've
194601:29:56,109 --> 01:30:01,238published a book you're one of us now
194701:29:58,420 --> 01:30:07,480I'm going to level with you
194801:30:01,238 --> 01:30:10,359and he says to me you know he really
194901:30:07,479 --> 01:30:13,409made me angry with all that telephone
195001:30:10,359 --> 01:30:17,109bill business it was totally unnecessary
195101:30:13,409 --> 01:30:20,800he didn't need to do it I understand why
195201:30:17,109 --> 01:30:25,089he did it but it was really stupid but
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195301:30:20,800 --> 01:30:27,909yes Gerald Anderson was there Gerald
195401:30:25,090 --> 01:30:33,010Anderson was at a crash site on the
195501:30:27,909 --> 01:30:38,198plains of Santa Gerstmann what do you
195601:30:33,010 --> 01:30:42,969think so for me happened to why all the
195701:30:38,198 --> 01:30:45,460crash because if I if I go back in time
195801:30:42,969 --> 01:30:48,640and I and I recall what Gerald told me
195901:30:45,460 --> 01:30:51,159he saw the beings he saw the ship he
196001:30:48,640 --> 01:30:53,140touched the ship and as hot as it was
196101:30:51,159 --> 01:30:56,109outside that ship was ice-cold
196201:30:53,140 --> 01:30:58,510he touched the gray one that was alive
196301:30:56,109 --> 01:31:01,630one that was wounded one that was dead
196401:30:58,510 --> 01:31:03,650and there were a couple dead and his
196501:31:01,630 --> 01:31:06,079father said no don't touch them
196601:31:03,649 --> 01:31:10,939what do you think happened to all of
1967
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01:31:06,079 --> 01:31:14,119those bodies and that ship they would
196801:31:10,939 --> 01:31:16,299have taken that material to whatever
196901:31:14,119 --> 01:31:19,670place was set up to do the evaluation
197001:31:16,300 --> 01:31:24,440would wright-patterson have been a good
197101:31:19,670 --> 01:31:25,819place of course because you know they're
197201:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,949still the center of aeronautical
197301:31:25,819 --> 01:31:29,659engineering at the time they had
197401:31:27,949 --> 01:31:31,399everything that we talked about before
197501:31:29,659 --> 01:31:33,649they had the personnel they had the
197601:31:31,399 --> 01:31:35,269secrecy oaths they had the classified
197701:31:33,649 --> 01:31:36,439places they could do it they had
197801:31:35,270 --> 01:31:38,180equipment they had money that
197901:31:36,439 --> 01:31:40,339contracting you know they could hire
198001:31:38,180 --> 01:31:42,530people that they needed if they didn't
198101:31:40,340 --> 01:31:43,880
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have the right expertise so the only
198201:31:42,529 --> 01:31:45,559issue they would have to grapple with
198301:31:43,880 --> 01:31:48,859would be the logistics how they would
198401:31:45,560 --> 01:31:51,140get it there and again you know they
198501:31:48,859 --> 01:31:53,769would keep it under wraps they've
198601:31:51,140 --> 01:31:55,730already had the Roswell experience and
198701:31:53,770 --> 01:31:58,190you know they've already been through it
198801:31:55,729 --> 01:32:00,739once so I think it would have been just
198901:31:58,189 --> 01:32:02,239pro forma they would have done what
199001:32:00,739 --> 01:32:04,159they've done before maybe brought in
199101:32:02,239 --> 01:32:05,899some of the same people who had helped
199201:32:04,159 --> 01:32:07,399get the first shipment to wright-patt
199301:32:05,899 --> 01:32:10,159and and and take him at the
199401:32:07,399 --> 01:32:12,429wright-patterson absolutely no reason to
199501:32:10,159 --> 01:32:12,430think otherwise
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199601:32:14,350 --> 01:32:21,470and yet Gerald's story really hasn't
199701:32:16,939 --> 01:32:24,529changed I'll tell you what the amazing
199801:32:21,470 --> 01:32:27,100thing is I interviewed jarrell and I
199901:32:24,529 --> 01:32:29,269would have to go I have an interview
200001:32:27,100 --> 01:32:32,510notebook here that I take copious notes
200101:32:29,270 --> 01:32:35,360and now I ask people if I can record
200201:32:32,510 --> 01:32:37,460them so I do that because you know I my
200301:32:35,359 --> 01:32:42,469note-taking is good but it it leaves a
200401:32:37,460 --> 01:32:45,829lot of holes and I took massive notes of
200501:32:42,470 --> 01:32:49,730Gerald and talking to him and I have to
200601:32:45,829 --> 01:32:51,710tell you that when I overlay that on the
200701:32:49,729 --> 01:32:53,509interview that I heard does it was
200801:32:51,710 --> 01:32:56,600posted on your website
200901:32:53,510 --> 01:33:02,510Rene pointed out to me when I overlaid
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201001:32:56,600 --> 01:33:07,340that on my notes it was eerily and
201101:33:02,510 --> 01:33:12,920extraordinarily close it is as if Gerald
201201:33:07,340 --> 01:33:17,559had memorized that narrative and has it
201301:33:12,920 --> 01:33:19,599totally stone-cold memorized I mean
201401:33:17,559 --> 01:33:22,779rude forward there were phrases in there
201501:33:19,599 --> 01:33:25,899that I wrote down that were exactly what
201601:33:22,779 --> 01:33:29,198he told you now does he ever memorize
201701:33:25,899 --> 01:33:31,149you know it is it part of of who he is
201801:33:29,198 --> 01:33:33,458you know he's a police officer
201901:33:31,149 --> 01:33:36,489he's got great memory he has great
202001:33:33,458 --> 01:33:39,788recall is it that he told his story so
202101:33:36,488 --> 01:33:42,279many times the you know I've done
202201:33:39,788 --> 01:33:44,228several interviews in a casket police if
202301:33:42,279 --> 01:33:46,029you overlay what I say there's going to
2024
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01:33:44,229 --> 01:33:47,439be a little bit of correlation but it
202501:33:46,029 --> 01:33:51,088depends upon who's asking me the
202601:33:47,439 --> 01:33:54,128questions I was amazed at how much of
202701:33:51,088 --> 01:33:58,029repetition it was between again my notes
202801:33:54,128 --> 01:33:59,918and and your your interview so I don't
202901:33:58,029 --> 01:34:03,128know what that tells me about Cyril
203001:33:59,918 --> 01:34:04,538Anderson but it's awfully spooky to me
203101:34:03,128 --> 01:34:06,878and you know maybe there's some
203201:34:04,538 --> 01:34:08,828psychiatrists or some psychologists who
203301:34:06,878 --> 01:34:10,559can cut through it and tell us all what
203401:34:08,828 --> 01:34:16,078it means but his story is
203501:34:10,559 --> 01:34:18,939extraordinarily consistent if anything
203601:34:16,078 --> 01:34:22,478and yet the credibility that Gerald has
203701:34:18,939 --> 01:34:24,609is far and few between I mean he felt so
203801:34:22,479 --> 01:34:27,550
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burnt by everybody in that that they
203901:34:24,609 --> 01:34:30,179were they were so nice to him to take
204001:34:27,550 --> 01:34:33,909them to the site to show you know
204101:34:30,179 --> 01:34:35,439evidence of where the ship was and where
204201:34:33,908 --> 01:34:37,748things had crashed where the military
204301:34:35,439 --> 01:34:40,510came in he did a play-by-play for many
204401:34:37,748 --> 01:34:42,639people in that area and then it was
204501:34:40,510 --> 01:34:45,069almost like in the way he felt in the
204601:34:42,639 --> 01:34:47,739way he described it here and maybe I'm
204701:34:45,069 --> 01:34:51,339taking it that way is that he was just
204801:34:47,738 --> 01:34:54,698dropped like an empty can into a bucket
204901:34:51,338 --> 01:34:56,439you know of recyclables and oK we've got
205001:34:54,698 --> 01:34:58,148everything we want from you your story
205101:34:56,439 --> 01:35:00,579of your sighting is really not of
205201:34:58,149 --> 01:35:04,119importance anymore now we've got to find
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205301:35:00,578 --> 01:35:06,128the evidence and lo and behold they
205401:35:04,118 --> 01:35:07,719actually found some metal material that
205501:35:06,128 --> 01:35:10,868the military had left behind that was
205601:35:07,719 --> 01:35:12,338still deep in the ground do you feel
205701:35:10,868 --> 01:35:14,078that that happened to him and do you
205801:35:12,338 --> 01:35:17,498think that's why he went silent for so
205901:35:14,078 --> 01:35:20,349long oh absolutely
206001:35:17,498 --> 01:35:22,538he had absolutely nothing to gain it was
206101:35:20,349 --> 01:35:25,479affecting his personal life it was
206201:35:22,538 --> 01:35:26,828affecting his professional life you know
206301:35:25,479 --> 01:35:30,039he was known as the kind we made these
206401:35:26,828 --> 01:35:31,420outlandish claims and you know as art
206501:35:30,038 --> 01:35:34,059Campbell said
206601:35:31,420 --> 01:35:37,300and I know what the old adage is but you
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206701:35:34,060 --> 01:35:39,430know he crossed swords with a guy who
206801:35:37,300 --> 01:35:42,279bought printing ink by the barrel and
206901:35:39,430 --> 01:35:44,020he's talking about Kevin Randall and not
207001:35:42,279 --> 01:35:45,340that Kevin doesn't write great books you
207101:35:44,020 --> 01:35:48,070know but the fact is he's a former
207201:35:45,340 --> 01:35:49,750intelligence agent okay so think about
207301:35:48,069 --> 01:35:52,389that for a while you know you know I
207401:35:49,750 --> 01:35:54,189always know your source and and he came
207501:35:52,390 --> 01:35:56,680down and he made money off flaws well
207601:35:54,189 --> 01:35:58,689and his buddies you know that he wrote
207701:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,880books but made money off Roswell they're
207801:35:58,689 --> 01:36:03,250still making money off of Roswell so
207901:36:00,880 --> 01:36:07,510Roswell this sacred you know cash cow
208001:36:03,250 --> 01:36:12,039and how dare you you know move focus
2081
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01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:13,449away from us well um I in my book took a
208201:36:12,039 --> 01:36:18,369little bit different approach and I said
208301:36:13,449 --> 01:36:20,829um ladies you know there is absolutely
208401:36:18,369 --> 01:36:23,619no evidence I mean there's no proof
208501:36:20,829 --> 01:36:26,470there's no proof of any extraterrestrial
208601:36:23,619 --> 01:36:30,309craft or recovery from as well other
208701:36:26,470 --> 01:36:32,829than Jesse Marcel's testimony zero zero
208801:36:30,310 --> 01:36:35,800zero proof yet you all have been riding
208901:36:32,829 --> 01:36:36,760that horse for years but on the plains
209001:36:35,800 --> 01:36:40,239of Santa goostin
209101:36:36,760 --> 01:36:43,150okay Roswell has evidence lots of spoken
209201:36:40,239 --> 01:36:46,090and and you know the ecwid smell of
209301:36:43,149 --> 01:36:48,519burning wood but the plains of Santa
209401:36:46,090 --> 01:36:52,630goostin in my estimation if you can
209501:36:48,520 --> 01:36:55,960
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believe the high tech evaluation of the
209601:36:52,630 --> 01:36:59,470materials has proof it's not evidence
209701:36:55,960 --> 01:37:02,739it's the proof that everybody has been
209801:36:59,470 --> 01:37:06,010looking for so if I'm making money from
209901:37:02,739 --> 01:37:09,699story a and story becomes out and it has
210001:37:06,010 --> 01:37:12,070proof and I don't have I'm nervous I'm
210101:37:09,699 --> 01:37:14,139very very nervous I might be invested in
210201:37:12,069 --> 01:37:17,229things that are all Roswell and I'm
210301:37:14,140 --> 01:37:19,960gonna squash that plus I've now got a
210401:37:17,229 --> 01:37:23,189big fat target with concentric circles
210501:37:19,960 --> 01:37:28,239on his back because he forges a
210601:37:23,189 --> 01:37:29,769telephone bell but now in my estimation
210701:37:28,239 --> 01:37:32,019he goes out there with a metal detector
210801:37:29,770 --> 01:37:33,880and takes guys to a site and then they
210901:37:32,020 --> 01:37:36,760test that metal and they find out that
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211001:37:33,880 --> 01:37:38,859it's not of this planet nobody found it
211101:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,780in ten years he goes out there and on
211201:37:38,859 --> 01:37:45,479the first day they load up a sack of
211301:37:40,779 --> 01:37:45,479this stuff to me he's exonerated
211401:37:46,079 --> 01:37:51,279so I'd like to story and in my book what
211501:37:49,060 --> 01:37:53,070I wrote is I kind of put the olive
211601:37:51,279 --> 01:37:55,689branch out there I should look at folks
211701:37:53,069 --> 01:37:58,689Roswell was still a great story there's
211801:37:55,689 --> 01:38:01,479still lots to investigate however if I
211901:37:58,689 --> 01:38:04,059look if I follow as a scientist of four
212001:38:01,479 --> 01:38:06,489decades if I follow the evidence and the
212101:38:04,060 --> 01:38:10,870proof it leads me to the plains of Santa
212201:38:06,489 --> 01:38:14,619goostin and if that's the case we now
212301:38:10,869 --> 01:38:16,809need to build a museum out there because
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212401:38:14,619 --> 01:38:18,970there's enough space out there to build
212501:38:16,810 --> 01:38:20,860it and there's enough glory to share
212601:38:18,970 --> 01:38:23,550between lászló and Santa Goosen and in
212701:38:20,859 --> 01:38:25,779fact I think it makes both stories
212801:38:23,550 --> 01:38:28,750stronger because they happen around the
212901:38:25,779 --> 01:38:31,269same time frame so why Roswell would
213001:38:28,750 --> 01:38:37,180fight at the Roswell ian's I don't know
213101:38:31,270 --> 01:38:39,880it makes the case even better unless
213201:38:37,180 --> 01:38:42,159it's just about profit because every
213301:38:39,880 --> 01:38:43,390year well that's what brings people in
213401:38:42,159 --> 01:38:46,689there much like the Mothman Prophecies
213501:38:43,390 --> 01:38:49,390in Point Pleasant in West Virginia they
213601:38:46,689 --> 01:38:51,939have a big week-long celebration of the
213701:38:49,390 --> 01:38:55,450Mothman and Roswell does the exact same
2138
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01:38:51,939 --> 01:38:59,109thing and I agree with you by the way it
213901:38:55,449 --> 01:39:02,529would bring so much more to address what
214001:38:59,109 --> 01:39:05,019happened at San Agustin yet they refused
214101:39:02,529 --> 01:39:06,909to do that and it makes me scratch my
214201:39:05,020 --> 01:39:09,040head wondering what is the whole
214301:39:06,909 --> 01:39:11,439cover-up of the San Agustin thing
214401:39:09,039 --> 01:39:14,470because obviously if the public won't
214501:39:11,439 --> 01:39:18,939even match it and the tourism won't even
214601:39:14,470 --> 01:39:20,980mat or admit its existence then there
214701:39:18,939 --> 01:39:25,779has to be lack of a better term some
214801:39:20,979 --> 01:39:27,879conspiracy at play here and you know
214901:39:25,779 --> 01:39:30,849what's what's the motivation my best
215001:39:27,880 --> 01:39:33,609friend says man does nothing unless
215101:39:30,850 --> 01:39:37,510there's sex and money involved or one of
215201:39:33,609 --> 01:39:39,699
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those well you know I'm not sure what's
215301:39:37,510 --> 01:39:43,360going on Roswell sexualized but there
215401:39:39,699 --> 01:39:45,159was a lot of money involved here lots of
215501:39:43,359 --> 01:39:48,130books many people have made their
215601:39:45,159 --> 01:39:50,319reputation by writing a roswell book and
215701:39:48,130 --> 01:39:52,470and again i don't know how much money
215801:39:50,319 --> 01:39:54,519they're making but there are always
215901:39:52,470 --> 01:39:56,710guest speakers at these big
216001:39:54,520 --> 01:39:58,959international conferences and being all
216101:39:56,710 --> 01:40:01,719flown around and getting free hotels and
216201:39:58,958 --> 01:40:03,819food stipends and you know opportunities
216301:40:01,719 --> 01:40:06,760to sell their books sounds to me like a
216401:40:03,819 --> 01:40:08,738gravy train and it's built upon zero
216501:40:06,760 --> 01:40:11,248proof and I write that in my book there
216601:40:08,738 --> 01:40:13,658was zero proof there's lots of evidence
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216701:40:11,248 --> 01:40:17,078you know now it's what makes me a
216801:40:13,658 --> 01:40:19,558believer there's zero proof except of
216901:40:17,078 --> 01:40:23,319course for you know Justin or sellsword
217001:40:19,559 --> 01:40:25,869and for me it's you know I'm thinking
217101:40:23,319 --> 01:40:28,029it's about the money unless of course
217201:40:25,868 --> 01:40:31,058there's a lot of sex going on as well
217301:40:28,029 --> 01:40:33,069that's neither do I know about yes
217401:40:31,059 --> 01:40:37,170that's for another show the Roswell
217501:40:33,069 --> 01:40:40,599alien orgy that happens every year
217601:40:37,170 --> 01:40:43,300doesn't happen in San Agustin that's for
217701:40:40,599 --> 01:40:46,389sure let's move on a second because I
217801:40:43,300 --> 01:40:50,079think we've beat this topic up pretty
217901:40:46,389 --> 01:40:53,319pretty hard here in regards to UFO
218001:40:50,078 --> 01:40:54,880researchers there's a lot of people out
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218101:40:53,319 --> 01:40:57,158there especially with the way social
218201:40:54,880 --> 01:41:01,059media has exploded over the last five to
218301:40:57,158 --> 01:41:05,498eight years that it's really brought a
218401:41:01,059 --> 01:41:08,949whole attention into UF ology paranormal
218501:41:05,498 --> 01:41:11,050all sorts of weird and strange if we
218601:41:08,948 --> 01:41:13,779include the cryptids like Bigfoot dog
218701:41:11,050 --> 01:41:16,420man but let's focus on the UF ology
218801:41:13,779 --> 01:41:18,819field here for a second we see things
218901:41:16,420 --> 01:41:21,479like YouTube and the CGI that people are
219001:41:18,819 --> 01:41:23,698putting on YouTube do you believe that a
219101:41:21,479 --> 01:41:27,280lot of this is being done as
219201:41:23,698 --> 01:41:29,198disinformation rather than people trying
219301:41:27,279 --> 01:41:32,849to get their 15 minutes of fame and
219401:41:29,198 --> 01:41:32,848saying oh look what I got on camera
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01:41:33,059 --> 01:41:38,199that's a tough question I think there's
219601:41:36,670 --> 01:41:39,639a lot of folks who want their 15 minutes
219701:41:38,198 --> 01:41:42,518of fame because they're gonna show how
219801:41:39,639 --> 01:41:45,400creative they are and you know they're
219901:41:42,519 --> 01:41:49,840making money too because they've got a
220001:41:45,399 --> 01:41:51,728website that their videos are driving
220101:41:49,840 --> 01:41:53,889the traffic to so every time someone
220201:41:51,729 --> 01:41:57,340clicks on their webpage you know the
220301:41:53,889 --> 01:41:59,949cash register goes ting ting and and so
220401:41:57,340 --> 01:42:01,150again the motivation is cast I've got
220501:41:59,948 --> 01:42:02,948this fabulous thing you know I get a
220601:42:01,149 --> 01:42:05,649million hits I don't know how much money
220701:42:02,948 --> 01:42:07,509that generates because I don't have a
220801:42:05,649 --> 01:42:08,920Facebook account at this point and I
220901:42:07,510 --> 01:42:12,439
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don't have a website at this point and
221001:42:08,920 --> 01:42:14,599and you know I won't get into why it but
221101:42:12,439 --> 01:42:16,389those kind of people are making money
221201:42:14,599 --> 01:42:19,699pure and simple
221301:42:16,389 --> 01:42:22,819now are there disinformation specialists
221401:42:19,698 --> 01:42:26,899out there I would think that you have to
221501:42:22,819 --> 01:42:31,399use some discretion when and apply it to
221601:42:26,899 --> 01:42:34,069a particular instance for example let's
221701:42:31,399 --> 01:42:36,228say the Stevensville lights soon as the
221801:42:34,069 --> 01:42:40,578Stevens field lights you know come on
221901:42:36,229 --> 01:42:43,429and you've got the constable saying he
222001:42:40,578 --> 01:42:45,529saw it and his deputy saw it and a
222101:42:43,429 --> 01:42:47,569reputable business guy who saw it and
222201:42:45,529 --> 01:42:49,728the ranch who said this thing said over
222301:42:47,569 --> 01:42:52,130my head and then you see stuff that
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222401:42:49,729 --> 01:42:54,199comes out in reference to it you get you
222501:42:52,130 --> 01:42:55,880know and I'm not going to mention their
222601:42:54,198 --> 01:42:57,948names because they're annoying and they
222701:42:55,880 --> 01:43:01,849don't deserve any airtime but there's a
222801:42:57,948 --> 01:43:04,578handful of of the bunkers that are
222901:43:01,849 --> 01:43:07,578always brought out on these TV shows and
223001:43:04,578 --> 01:43:09,799these pseudo documentaries and you know
223101:43:07,578 --> 01:43:12,168they come out and go well let's Venus
223201:43:09,800 --> 01:43:15,050expanded by a hot air balloon and it's
223301:43:12,168 --> 01:43:18,050it's spontaneously combusted beer
223401:43:15,050 --> 01:43:18,668flatulence and and you know it's bull
223501:43:18,050 --> 01:43:24,050crap
223601:43:18,668 --> 01:43:27,609when you see videos and and pictures and
223701:43:24,050 --> 01:43:32,150narrative that come out for a specific
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223801:43:27,609 --> 01:43:33,109incident you know it's easy to cut
223901:43:32,149 --> 01:43:35,899through it and you know it's
224001:43:33,109 --> 01:43:38,598disinformation and misinformation but
224101:43:35,899 --> 01:43:40,638somebody who's just throwing up a video
224201:43:38,599 --> 01:43:42,679saying you know there's a triangular
224301:43:40,639 --> 01:43:44,689craft you know it was happened in May at
224401:43:42,679 --> 01:43:46,939wright-patterson and there's this craft
224501:43:44,689 --> 01:43:49,519over the thing and it's this balloon and
224601:43:46,939 --> 01:43:53,539you'll find it on our website and you
224701:43:49,519 --> 01:43:56,360know people have accused us that that's
224801:43:53,538 --> 01:43:59,090just that's just people trying to drive
224901:43:56,359 --> 01:44:01,609traffic to the website so I think it's
225001:43:59,090 --> 01:44:04,038easy for the savvy consumer and the
225101:44:01,609 --> 01:44:06,198savvy researcher and and somebody who
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01:44:04,038 --> 01:44:08,569you know knows the history the easy cut
225301:44:06,198 --> 01:44:10,248to easily cut through the crap I have a
225401:44:08,569 --> 01:44:12,529couple questions from our audience here
225501:44:10,248 --> 01:44:16,639if you don't mind ray as we speak with
225601:44:12,529 --> 01:44:19,788Ray Szymanski author of 50 shades of
225701:44:16,639 --> 01:44:21,559Gray's can be found at any major book
225801:44:19,788 --> 01:44:24,408store or online in Amazon
225901:44:21,559 --> 01:44:25,760let's start with this question from gin
226001:44:24,408 --> 01:44:28,098in the revolution radio
226101:44:25,760 --> 01:44:30,710chat room have you ever done any Studies
226201:44:28,099 --> 01:44:35,019on the UFO crash outside Kingman Arizona
226301:44:30,710 --> 01:44:35,019I am not
226401:44:35,738 --> 01:44:40,759unfortunately is that something you
226501:44:37,670 --> 01:44:44,029would probably look into you know I'm
226601:44:40,760 --> 01:44:45,889
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gonna focus on a filed my follow-up book
226701:44:44,029 --> 01:44:49,219is gonna be more about wright-patterson
226801:44:45,889 --> 01:44:52,279because I'm being told things to sources
226901:44:49,219 --> 01:44:54,590that I trust and I can pretty much
227001:44:52,279 --> 01:44:56,988document it you know to make me a
227101:44:54,590 --> 01:45:02,210believer of it and I'm doing another
227201:44:56,988 --> 01:45:04,129book on contactees so I probably will
227301:45:02,210 --> 01:45:07,069not be researching that in the near
227401:45:04,130 --> 01:45:09,078future because my focus is on these
227501:45:07,069 --> 01:45:10,729other two areas right now and yeah
227601:45:09,078 --> 01:45:14,420there's only so much I can do I'm one
227701:45:10,729 --> 01:45:16,098person so my apologies next question
227801:45:14,420 --> 01:45:17,179comes from Joe in the sor space
227901:45:16,099 --> 01:45:19,519travelers club
228001:45:17,179 --> 01:45:26,710he is asking why are you a full
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228101:45:19,519 --> 01:45:29,630researchers their own worst enemies I I
228201:45:26,710 --> 01:45:31,908guess I need to know who he's talking
228301:45:29,630 --> 01:45:35,210about specifically if it's me then I'd
228401:45:31,908 --> 01:45:38,420like him to ask me you know where I've
228501:45:35,210 --> 01:45:40,550fallen on my sword no it isn't so much
228601:45:38,420 --> 01:45:42,649about you but it's more so along the
228701:45:40,550 --> 01:45:44,630lines that there doesn't seem to be a
228801:45:42,649 --> 01:45:47,658lot of credibility in the field of
228901:45:44,630 --> 01:45:49,429ufology you know like years ago the old
229001:45:47,658 --> 01:45:52,429crowd the Stanton Friedman and everybody
229101:45:49,429 --> 01:45:54,349like that they seemed to really own the
229201:45:52,429 --> 01:45:56,719circuit then there's this secondary
229301:45:54,349 --> 01:46:00,260younger group who's coming in and the
229401:45:56,719 --> 01:46:02,689ideas of those researchers seem very
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229501:46:00,260 --> 01:46:05,239far-fetched that people almost don't
229601:46:02,689 --> 01:46:07,250believe the stories I mean classic
229701:46:05,238 --> 01:46:12,078example the whole ancient aliens theory
229801:46:07,250 --> 01:46:16,158that's very popular now right I think a
229901:46:12,078 --> 01:46:19,670lot of the people who are in the field
230001:46:16,158 --> 01:46:21,589want to stay visible and they want you
230101:46:19,670 --> 01:46:24,230know this it's an ego trip they're
230201:46:21,590 --> 01:46:28,219making money in fact in my book I take
230301:46:24,229 --> 01:46:31,819two major researchers very well known
230401:46:28,219 --> 01:46:35,059people to task for fabricating a story
230501:46:31,819 --> 01:46:38,389and they close their book with the story
230601:46:35,059 --> 01:46:39,800saying you know mr. so-and-so is on the
230701:46:38,389 --> 01:46:42,859base commander and they're not coming on
230801:46:39,800 --> 01:46:45,409my days and all that and the way I know
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01:46:42,859 --> 01:46:49,078the story was fabricated is because at
231001:46:45,408 --> 01:46:51,478the time the story was taking place
231101:46:49,078 --> 01:46:55,139person they're quoting in the book was
231201:46:51,479 --> 01:46:57,418my boss because I was working for the
231301:46:55,139 --> 01:47:00,059base commander as a direct report at
231401:46:57,418 --> 01:47:02,788that time so I knew the story was
231501:47:00,059 --> 01:47:04,559completely ass and what I did is is he
231601:47:02,788 --> 01:47:06,179was a colonel at the time I contacted
231701:47:04,559 --> 01:47:08,699him he's now a general in Washington DC
231801:47:06,179 --> 01:47:10,859I sent him a copy of those pages and I
231901:47:08,698 --> 01:47:13,018said they're quoting you as you know
232001:47:10,859 --> 01:47:15,389ranting about these guys aren't coming
232101:47:13,019 --> 01:47:17,159on my base to do the filming I said what
232201:47:15,389 --> 01:47:19,139do you know about it he said never heard
232301:47:17,158 --> 01:47:21,029
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of these guys this didn't happen and the
232401:47:19,139 --> 01:47:22,550names that they mentioned in the book I
232501:47:21,029 --> 01:47:26,698don't know these people
232601:47:22,550 --> 01:47:30,659so I actually call out two very very
232701:47:26,698 --> 01:47:34,168well-known researchers in my book and I
232801:47:30,658 --> 01:47:36,898contacted them personally and I said you
232901:47:34,168 --> 01:47:39,148know the story and the first
233001:47:36,899 --> 01:47:41,519researcher said contact my buddy he's
233101:47:39,149 --> 01:47:43,889the one who wrote it so I did and he put
233201:47:41,519 --> 01:47:45,780me off for a handful of months and
233301:47:43,889 --> 01:47:47,639finally I had to catch up with him at a
233401:47:45,779 --> 01:47:50,099conference and I said hey we're
233501:47:47,639 --> 01:47:53,279face-to-face this is a phony story well
233601:47:50,099 --> 01:47:55,139you know I got it from my source and you
233701:47:53,279 --> 01:47:56,908know I believed him I said no no I'm not
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233801:47:55,139 --> 01:47:58,828buying it your name is on the cover of
233901:47:56,908 --> 01:48:01,498the book you should have checked out you
234001:47:58,828 --> 01:48:04,708should have checked your book and he
234101:48:01,498 --> 01:48:06,658blew me off so um I think you know in
234201:48:04,708 --> 01:48:09,719his case it's an ego thing you know he's
234301:48:06,658 --> 01:48:12,029a big name and he just wants to stay you
234401:48:09,719 --> 01:48:13,439know on the circuit and I'm not afraid
234501:48:12,029 --> 01:48:15,809to call him out and I wasn't afraid to
234601:48:13,439 --> 01:48:18,769tell him publicly that that story was
234701:48:15,809 --> 01:48:21,208 so you're right in many cases
234801:48:18,769 --> 01:48:22,949they're their own worst enemy but they
234901:48:21,208 --> 01:48:24,779are because they've got to do something
235001:48:22,948 --> 01:48:26,908new and exciting and they want to be the
235101:48:24,779 --> 01:48:28,858first to you know say something and
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235201:48:26,908 --> 01:48:30,448bring it out there and they don't check
235301:48:28,859 --> 01:48:32,459the facts and I have the problem with
235401:48:30,448 --> 01:48:35,458that and I don't mind publicly calling
235501:48:32,458 --> 01:48:39,358them out well there's someone on this
235601:48:35,458 --> 01:48:40,858side that I will not name and a few
235701:48:39,359 --> 01:48:44,159people I have shared that with in our
235801:48:40,859 --> 01:48:47,459audience privately in the chat rooms but
235901:48:44,158 --> 01:48:51,299I in emailed somebody in this top tier
236001:48:47,458 --> 01:48:53,908of investigators or researchers or
236101:48:51,300 --> 01:48:55,079whatever you want to call them and I
236201:48:53,908 --> 01:48:57,868asked them if they would like to come on
236301:48:55,078 --> 01:49:00,448for an interview I you know I I sent a
236401:48:57,868 --> 01:49:01,648letter similar that I sent to you seeing
236501:49:00,448 --> 01:49:02,759if you would like to come on the show
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01:49:01,649 --> 01:49:05,130and you know
236701:49:02,760 --> 01:49:06,960which describes what we are like what we
236801:49:05,130 --> 01:49:09,659are about and I think we provide a
236901:49:06,960 --> 01:49:12,118pretty attractive package I didn't get
237001:49:09,658 --> 01:49:15,598in in the response letter that I email
237101:49:12,118 --> 01:49:18,630that I got back I didn't get a hi how
237201:49:15,599 --> 01:49:23,069are you went time do you broadcast how
237301:49:18,630 --> 01:49:27,538long anything like that the note
237401:49:23,069 --> 01:49:30,268basically said mister so-and-so would
237501:49:27,538 --> 01:49:34,908like to know how many listeners you have
237601:49:30,269 --> 01:49:39,900per night before he commits to anything
237701:49:34,908 --> 01:49:45,658and I looked at that and I thought you
237801:49:39,899 --> 01:49:49,198jerk right honestly I thought you jerk
237901:49:45,658 --> 01:49:52,319that is not even worthy of my response
238001:49:49,198 --> 01:49:55,859
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now I know I don't have the audience of
238101:49:52,319 --> 01:49:57,538say coast-to-coast I know that okay I
238201:49:55,859 --> 01:50:00,710got about a thousand people a night
238301:49:57,538 --> 01:50:04,639listening to me they've got about Oh
238401:50:00,710 --> 01:50:07,679three four million it's a big difference
238501:50:04,639 --> 01:50:10,288but my theory on this is and my thoughts
238601:50:07,679 --> 01:50:13,469on this ray and I'm curious to get your
238701:50:10,288 --> 01:50:15,359thoughts on this the reason why I never
238801:50:13,469 --> 01:50:17,550responded to that email I was so
238901:50:15,359 --> 01:50:19,500insulted for each and every one of my
239001:50:17,550 --> 01:50:21,900listeners because they've made an
239101:50:19,500 --> 01:50:23,729emotional connection to this show they
239201:50:21,899 --> 01:50:27,689know we run a professional quality
239301:50:23,729 --> 01:50:30,689program and for this person to slap my
239401:50:27,689 --> 01:50:33,899audience in the face by asking that
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239501:50:30,689 --> 01:50:36,839question is it really about the message
239601:50:33,899 --> 01:50:41,729you were trying to get across or is it
239701:50:36,840 --> 01:50:43,349about your own personal being because if
239801:50:41,729 --> 01:50:44,908it's about the message you shouldn't
239901:50:43,349 --> 01:50:46,500care if it's ten listeners a hundred
240001:50:44,908 --> 01:50:49,439listeners a thousand listeners like we
240101:50:46,500 --> 01:50:51,090have or the three million listeners it
240201:50:49,439 --> 01:50:53,098should be about the message and getting
240301:50:51,090 --> 01:50:56,429as many people out there to talk about
240401:50:53,099 --> 01:50:58,500it as possible and that's why I will
240501:50:56,429 --> 01:51:04,380never have this person on the air even
240601:50:58,500 --> 01:51:06,328if I meet him face to face Stanton
240701:51:04,380 --> 01:51:09,359Friedman and I traded books at the
240801:51:06,328 --> 01:51:12,058International UFO Congress he was
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240901:51:09,359 --> 01:51:14,250sitting there and he was watching the
241001:51:12,059 --> 01:51:16,119book sales just the books were just
241101:51:14,250 --> 01:51:18,670flying off the table and the
241201:51:16,118 --> 01:51:22,359was one of my endorsers was the
241301:51:18,670 --> 01:51:26,349pre-lunch presenter it was paul davids
241401:51:22,359 --> 01:51:28,988and during his presentation he said hey
241501:51:26,349 --> 01:51:30,760I had lunch with Ray Szymanski his book
241601:51:28,988 --> 01:51:32,799is here he only brought three dozen
241701:51:30,760 --> 01:51:34,239copies you better do one after lunch and
241801:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,099the line was out the door
241901:51:34,238 --> 01:51:38,379so Friedman's walked in this go along
242001:51:36,099 --> 01:51:40,150and he grabs like the last saleable copy
242101:51:38,380 --> 01:51:43,539and he goes wow this is really
242201:51:40,149 --> 01:51:45,969interesting and he said I'll tell you
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01:51:43,539 --> 01:51:46,599what I'll trade your book for any one of
242401:51:45,969 --> 01:51:48,579mine
242501:51:46,599 --> 01:51:50,230so we trade books and I got a photograph
242601:51:48,579 --> 01:51:52,719it's really cool he's such a nice man
242701:51:50,229 --> 01:51:54,218and and he's holding my book I'm holding
242801:51:52,719 --> 01:51:55,448his book and you know of course we
242901:51:54,219 --> 01:51:58,630talked about that for the rest of the
243001:51:55,448 --> 01:52:00,158week so now a couple of weeks go by and
243101:51:58,630 --> 01:52:02,650he tells me he said I'm gonna beat your
243201:52:00,158 --> 01:52:04,899book on my flight back to New Brunswick
243301:52:02,649 --> 01:52:06,698wherever you live and so I sent him an
243401:52:04,899 --> 01:52:08,710email I said have you read my book and
243501:52:06,698 --> 01:52:11,198he said you know I'm halfway through it
243601:52:08,710 --> 01:52:13,510he goes and I'm really enjoying it he
243701:52:11,198 --> 01:52:15,339
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said this is very interesting and you've
243801:52:13,510 --> 01:52:17,230covered a lot of ground here he goes
243901:52:15,340 --> 01:52:19,750it's just amazing and I said well thank
244001:52:17,229 --> 01:52:22,448you very much you know and and um
244101:52:19,750 --> 01:52:23,920you know just let me know when you're
244201:52:22,448 --> 01:52:26,799gonna finish that and then he goes and
244301:52:23,920 --> 01:52:29,020he gives me a list a laundry list of all
244401:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,909the things he's got to do in the next
244501:52:29,020 --> 01:52:32,290couple weeks he's on this show he's on
244601:52:30,908 --> 01:52:34,569this so he's writing this he's doing
244701:52:32,289 --> 01:52:37,060this and he goes I really hope I can get
244801:52:34,569 --> 01:52:38,679back to your book sometime soon so the
244901:52:37,060 --> 01:52:41,230point of all this is other than telling
245001:52:38,679 --> 01:52:45,489the audience that Stanton Friedman loves
245101:52:41,229 --> 01:52:49,029my book is there are some people that
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245201:52:45,488 --> 01:52:51,428are so busy that they get to pick and
245301:52:49,029 --> 01:52:53,380choose and I know this isn't right they
245401:52:51,429 --> 01:52:55,389get to pick and choose who show they're
245501:52:53,380 --> 01:52:56,859gonna be on and and what documentary
245601:52:55,389 --> 01:52:59,469they're going to use and they're
245701:52:56,859 --> 01:53:02,259freaking just exhausted and I hope it's
245801:52:59,469 --> 01:53:05,739not him you know he's 84 years old or no
245901:53:02,260 --> 01:53:08,739he's in that stratosphere so some of
246001:53:05,738 --> 01:53:11,079these people have to be picky now if it
246101:53:08,738 --> 01:53:13,959wasn't somebody of his stature and his
246201:53:11,079 --> 01:53:16,960age then you know shame on them
246301:53:13,960 --> 01:53:19,569because it should be about the message
246401:53:16,960 --> 01:53:21,158and you know I don't care if I give a
246501:53:19,569 --> 01:53:25,090presentation in a library and there's
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246601:53:21,158 --> 01:53:27,158five people there it's terrific because
246701:53:25,090 --> 01:53:29,079I'm getting to get the message out
246801:53:27,158 --> 01:53:29,649hopefully somebody will buy a book or
246901:53:29,079 --> 01:53:31,659two
247001:53:29,649 --> 01:53:34,389and then there's always so many audience
247101:53:31,659 --> 01:53:36,519goes hey I know this great guy Dave
247201:53:34,390 --> 01:53:38,440Scott and this is what happened to you
247301:53:36,520 --> 01:53:40,780know you and I you got to get on this
247401:53:38,439 --> 01:53:42,519show and it happened and I only had two
247501:53:40,779 --> 01:53:46,179dozen people in the audience that day I
247601:53:42,520 --> 01:53:47,760don't care so shame on that person if
247701:53:46,180 --> 01:53:50,409they weren't Stanton Friedman
247801:53:47,760 --> 01:53:53,170it wasn't Stanton Friedman I can tell
247901:53:50,409 --> 01:53:55,840you that he has been on this show and it
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01:53:53,170 --> 01:53:58,449wonderful yay yes he's a great guy I
248101:53:55,840 --> 01:54:00,159love him to death and of all the
248201:53:58,449 --> 01:54:02,880researchers and there are many that I
248301:54:00,159 --> 01:54:04,949found that have great integrity
248401:54:02,880 --> 01:54:08,289dollar-for-dollar pound-for-pound
248501:54:04,949 --> 01:54:10,210Stanton is the guy who I think has the
248601:54:08,289 --> 01:54:14,829highest level and of integrity he's made
248701:54:10,210 --> 01:54:17,230mistakes but he does his homework he
248801:54:14,829 --> 01:54:23,710knows his history and I would take his
248901:54:17,229 --> 01:54:28,329word to the bank I'm curious in regards
249001:54:23,710 --> 01:54:31,300to your own research what makes a good
249101:54:28,329 --> 01:54:33,460UFO researcher and what doesn't and the
249201:54:31,300 --> 01:54:35,500reason why I asked that I've talked to a
249301:54:33,460 --> 01:54:39,489number of researchers in the one pattern
249401:54:35,500 --> 01:54:41,819
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that I am finding lately Rey is that a
249501:54:39,489 --> 01:54:46,599lot of researchers out there no longer
249601:54:41,819 --> 01:54:48,189care about the experience let me
249701:54:46,600 --> 01:54:50,650rephrase that I don't think it's that
249801:54:48,189 --> 01:54:52,089they don't care about the experience but
249901:54:50,649 --> 01:54:55,149I believe that they are no longer
250001:54:52,090 --> 01:54:57,539putting any trust or faith into the
250101:54:55,149 --> 01:55:00,759experience people are having because
250201:54:57,539 --> 01:55:03,630they just feel it's not as relevant as
250301:55:00,760 --> 01:55:06,880the popular topic of disclosure or
250401:55:03,630 --> 01:55:09,730government officials like Bob Lazar or
250501:55:06,880 --> 01:55:11,980an astronaut coming out saying that
250601:55:09,729 --> 01:55:14,469there's UFO activity around NASA
250701:55:11,979 --> 01:55:16,269something along those lines they seem to
250801:55:14,470 --> 01:55:22,409have pushed the experiencer to the
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250901:55:16,270 --> 01:55:24,880wayside do you find that as well I think
251001:55:22,409 --> 01:55:27,069if I understand what you're saying is if
251101:55:24,880 --> 01:55:29,319the experiences are telling their
251201:55:27,069 --> 01:55:32,739stories and they're being documented in
251301:55:29,319 --> 01:55:34,689books like you know they walk among us
251401:55:32,739 --> 01:55:37,630which is the new one that just came out
251501:55:34,689 --> 01:55:40,839or Yvonne Smith's book chosen a coronado
251601:55:37,630 --> 01:55:42,680people who have been abducted that's the
251701:55:40,840 --> 01:55:44,539group we're talking about right
251801:55:42,680 --> 01:55:46,760getting about for instance there's a lot
251901:55:44,539 --> 01:55:48,260of experiencers out there who have
252001:55:46,760 --> 01:55:49,730basically been told and I've talked to
252101:55:48,260 --> 01:55:50,989them and I'm not gonna mention names
252201:55:49,729 --> 01:55:53,419because I know a few of them are
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252301:55:50,989 --> 01:55:54,769listening right now okay where they've
252401:55:53,420 --> 01:55:56,480been told you know what your story is
252501:55:54,770 --> 01:55:58,750great I've heard that type a story
252601:55:56,479 --> 01:56:00,979before but really
252701:55:58,750 --> 01:56:05,390unfortunately it's irrelevant to our
252801:56:00,979 --> 01:56:08,779research oh absolutely not I think
252901:56:05,390 --> 01:56:12,410that's that's totally wrong who has been
253001:56:08,779 --> 01:56:14,210closest to the phenomena somebody whose
253101:56:12,409 --> 01:56:16,729uncle had a plumber who had an
253201:56:14,210 --> 01:56:18,529electrician that knows a fireman that
253301:56:16,729 --> 01:56:21,889said he worked the right path and was
253401:56:18,529 --> 01:56:24,380led into a vault and oh sure they just
253501:56:21,890 --> 01:56:26,180didn't cover the craft that day so you
253601:56:24,380 --> 01:56:28,579saw the craft in the aliens and they
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01:56:26,180 --> 01:56:31,730swore you to secrecy and then it gets
253801:56:28,579 --> 01:56:35,600published in a block or is it the person
253901:56:31,729 --> 01:56:37,849who knows you know I'm an abductee I
254001:56:35,600 --> 01:56:42,590have been implanted you know with some
254101:56:37,850 --> 01:56:45,230sperm and some alien DNA and I have seen
254201:56:42,590 --> 01:56:49,310my children on a spacecraft and I have
254301:56:45,229 --> 01:56:52,579regular children here and you know who's
254401:56:49,310 --> 01:56:54,830been closest to the phenomenon it it's
254501:56:52,579 --> 01:56:59,059it's the person who's the experiencer so
254601:56:54,829 --> 01:57:01,850you know if you give me an experiencer
254701:56:59,060 --> 01:57:03,350in one corner telling me the story and a
254801:57:01,850 --> 01:57:06,470guy who's telling me about the firemen
254901:57:03,350 --> 01:57:08,630electrician connection I'm gonna blow
255001:57:06,470 --> 01:57:11,720that guy off I'm all ears for the
255101:57:08,630 --> 01:57:15,199
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experience so I can't speak for the
255201:57:11,720 --> 01:57:17,900other people I don't know who they've
255301:57:15,199 --> 01:57:20,329talked to or what the problem is or
255401:57:17,899 --> 01:57:22,909maybe they can't make money off of it I
255501:57:20,329 --> 01:57:27,289don't know what the issue is but for me
255601:57:22,909 --> 01:57:30,710you know I am super interested in the
255701:57:27,289 --> 01:57:34,220experience or story and maybe that's why
255801:57:30,710 --> 01:57:37,069I've hit it off so well with a von Smith
255901:57:34,220 --> 01:57:39,260is because you know that's her work and
256001:57:37,069 --> 01:57:43,250you know I can listen to her talk for
256101:57:39,260 --> 01:57:46,159hours and I have so I don't understand
256201:57:43,250 --> 01:57:48,859the other problem and in fact one of my
256301:57:46,159 --> 01:57:52,039you know future books is going to be
256401:57:48,859 --> 01:57:54,619about experiences and I love talking to
256501:57:52,039 --> 01:57:56,600them and I love doing the research
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256601:57:54,619 --> 01:57:58,189in about an hour I'm gonna probably have
256701:57:56,600 --> 01:58:01,250a treat for you after the show if you
256801:57:58,189 --> 01:58:02,629want to stay up a little bit later sure
256901:58:01,250 --> 01:58:06,289absolutely
257001:58:02,630 --> 01:58:11,390we have a friend of this show his name
257101:58:06,289 --> 01:58:15,800is he goes by Audrey and Audrey is not
257201:58:11,390 --> 01:58:18,950from here and I have this person
257301:58:15,800 --> 01:58:21,920personally so I will see you don't tell
257401:58:18,949 --> 01:58:23,899them where I will I will see if Audrey
257501:58:21,920 --> 01:58:26,210wants to hook up with us on the phone
257601:58:23,899 --> 01:58:29,479afterwards for you to say hello because
257701:58:26,210 --> 01:58:33,430his back his story is very very
257801:58:29,479 --> 01:58:36,229incredible and I'd love to do that
257901:58:33,430 --> 01:58:39,740mm-hmm have you ever seen any team I'd
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258001:58:36,229 --> 01:58:44,059love to do that personally
258101:58:39,739 --> 01:58:46,189yes no I have not and you know what I'm
258201:58:44,060 --> 01:58:47,960good you know it's like I've run
258301:58:46,189 --> 01:58:50,210marathons and my friends 100 miler
258401:58:47,960 --> 01:58:52,069saying oh you gotta join us someday no
258501:58:50,210 --> 01:58:53,510just tell me your stories man you know
258601:58:52,069 --> 01:58:56,299I'm good like I can't get my head around
258701:58:53,510 --> 01:58:57,800that so I'm good without it you know but
258801:58:56,300 --> 01:59:01,670but I'm still intrigued enough with the
258901:58:57,800 --> 01:59:05,060phenomena I know it's weird but I've
259001:59:01,670 --> 01:59:10,100seen no I'm not ready you know I have
259101:59:05,060 --> 01:59:13,039and one of them during this show April
259201:59:10,100 --> 01:59:15,77015 2015 I was broadcasting about Buddha
259301:59:13,039 --> 01:59:17,720of all topics ten minutes into the
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01:59:15,770 --> 01:59:20,000interview I saw something move out my
259501:59:17,720 --> 01:59:22,430window put my microphone on mute I
259601:59:20,000 --> 01:59:24,350looked out my window and I damn near
259701:59:22,430 --> 01:59:27,220fell off my chair when I noticed that
259801:59:24,350 --> 01:59:28,850there was a gray staring back at me oh
259901:59:27,220 --> 01:59:32,900my god
260001:59:28,850 --> 01:59:35,000yeah yeah I oh my god well see you know
260101:59:32,899 --> 01:59:38,659they're real you know the closest I came
260201:59:35,000 --> 01:59:40,310as I thought I saw a spaceship 200 feet
260301:59:38,659 --> 01:59:42,289in front of me about 75 foot off the
260401:59:40,310 --> 01:59:44,570deck and let me count the entire story
260501:59:42,289 --> 01:59:46,310with photographs not of a ship and more
260601:59:44,569 --> 01:59:48,949of an artist rendition of that
260701:59:46,310 --> 01:59:51,289experience so people claim I'm an
260801:59:48,949 --> 01:59:54,319
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experiencer because I saw a craft at
260901:59:51,289 --> 01:59:56,899close range you know I don't volunteer
261001:59:54,319 --> 01:59:59,420under that definition I think it goes
261101:59:56,899 --> 02:00:01,549well beyond that but obviously you are
261201:59:59,420 --> 02:00:03,920an experiencer and that's just
261302:00:01,550 --> 02:00:06,130extraordinary I'm one of the rare ones
261402:00:03,920 --> 02:00:07,359out there and
261502:00:06,130 --> 02:00:09,460I don't mean this to brag or anything
261602:00:07,359 --> 02:00:12,369but I'm one of the rare ones out there
261702:00:09,460 --> 02:00:15,489that actually has a a background in
261802:00:12,369 --> 02:00:16,300broadcasting and as in is an experience
261902:00:15,489 --> 02:00:19,809or as well
262002:00:16,300 --> 02:00:23,650so I mean my last four and a half years
262102:00:19,810 --> 02:00:26,380has been pretty incredible and like I
262202:00:23,649 --> 02:00:28,649have said many times on this show it put
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262302:00:26,380 --> 02:00:32,890a quick end to my happily boring life
262402:00:28,649 --> 02:00:35,229that I was so much enjoying you know
262502:00:32,890 --> 02:00:37,119well you know Janet Canon thought the
262602:00:35,229 --> 02:00:38,679luffing right yes they've been on this
262702:00:37,119 --> 02:00:42,789show they were on this show back in June
262802:00:38,680 --> 02:00:44,079right and she she's an experiencer and a
262902:00:42,789 --> 02:00:45,939broadcaster and I don't know what her
263002:00:44,079 --> 02:00:48,729background as if she's been formally
263102:00:45,939 --> 02:00:51,069trained but she does a great job of
263202:00:48,729 --> 02:00:53,769having a guest on much like this off and
263302:00:51,069 --> 02:00:57,009letting them just you know what run with
263402:00:53,770 --> 02:01:00,340it well that's kind of what we try and
263502:00:57,010 --> 02:01:03,460do because the way I look at it is this
263602:01:00,340 --> 02:01:04,510show is not about me you know we're
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263702:01:03,460 --> 02:01:06,039trying to build something where it's
263802:01:04,510 --> 02:01:08,409about the listeners and they're not
263902:01:06,039 --> 02:01:10,119tuning in to hear me they're tuning in
264002:01:08,409 --> 02:01:12,130to hear people such as yourself and
264102:01:10,119 --> 02:01:14,140that's why we get people on such as
264202:01:12,130 --> 02:01:16,650yourself to come on and try and explain
264302:01:14,140 --> 02:01:20,020what the Sam hell is going on around
264402:01:16,649 --> 02:01:22,179this earth that isn't being talked about
264502:01:20,020 --> 02:01:24,070on the mainstream so it's a it's a very
264602:01:22,180 --> 02:01:26,800good balance and when you have a good
264702:01:24,069 --> 02:01:28,210audience like we do here ray I could
264802:01:26,800 --> 02:01:31,000tell you this they keep you on your toes
264902:01:28,210 --> 02:01:33,640with excellent questions they bring up
265002:01:31,000 --> 02:01:35,680excellent points and they bring up a lot
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02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:38,200of information that you just don't
265202:01:35,680 --> 02:01:39,880normally think about because you're in
265302:01:38,199 --> 02:01:40,960the heat of the moment like on this side
265402:01:39,880 --> 02:01:42,430of the microphone you're in the heat of
265502:01:40,960 --> 02:01:44,680the moment you're the heat of the show
265602:01:42,430 --> 02:01:46,420you got the guest on your monitoring
265702:01:44,680 --> 02:01:49,119chat rooms you're pretty you're doing
265802:01:46,420 --> 02:01:51,970everything that would take the job of at
265902:01:49,119 --> 02:01:54,430least another person as well behind the
266002:01:51,970 --> 02:01:56,920scenes that we just don't have so you
266102:01:54,430 --> 02:01:58,900know what I really really respect the
266202:01:56,920 --> 02:02:00,940people who listen into these I'm gonna
266302:01:58,899 --> 02:02:03,099get you to hold on ray ray Szymanski it
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tonight Fifty Shades of Grey's is his
266602:02:06,069 --> 02:02:10,149book we're going to talk more et's UFOs
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279402:07:13,430 --> 02:07:17,600creatures lurking in the night the
279502:07:15,529 --> 02:07:20,359sounds of wood knocking in the forest
279602:07:17,600 --> 02:07:23,210odd happenings right out of a fictional
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02:10:27,119 --> 02:10:33,960tonight we are talking with ray
288002:10:30,720 --> 02:10:36,600Szymanski his book 50 shades of Gray's
288102:10:33,960 --> 02:10:39,079playing off the name title they're of a
288202:10:36,600 --> 02:10:41,579very popular book way to go there ray
288302:10:39,079 --> 02:10:44,010thank you everyone thinks it's so clever
288402:10:41,579 --> 02:10:45,659I don't know where that thought came
288502:10:44,010 --> 02:10:48,539from but it turns out you can't
288602:10:45,659 --> 02:10:50,970copyright a title of a book in the
288702:10:48,539 --> 02:10:53,550United States and the United Kingdom so
288802:10:50,970 --> 02:10:57,690it worked out perfectly what made you
288902:10:53,550 --> 02:11:00,590write it you know I was always
289002:10:57,689 --> 02:11:03,960interested in the topic and I retired
289102:11:00,590 --> 02:11:06,779prematurely in 2011 kid ran a red light
289202:11:03,960 --> 02:11:09,359I hit his car then a truck hit me from
289302:11:06,779 --> 02:11:11,399
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behind so I had some nerve issues and a
289402:11:09,359 --> 02:11:12,960herniated disc and I was getting
289502:11:11,399 --> 02:11:15,809blackout headaches so I was assigned
289602:11:12,960 --> 02:11:17,730from God time to retire and I wanted to
289702:11:15,810 --> 02:11:19,920make a short list of three things I
289802:11:17,729 --> 02:11:22,889wanted to do one become a UFO
289902:11:19,920 --> 02:11:25,350investigator to learn how to play the
290002:11:22,890 --> 02:11:27,360guitar 3 write a book
290102:11:25,350 --> 02:11:30,329so we can take that last one you know
290202:11:27,359 --> 02:11:32,429off off the to-do list so it was
290302:11:30,329 --> 02:11:34,979something I wanted to do and if I put it
290402:11:32,430 --> 02:11:37,470up there you know I'm gonna do it I also
290502:11:34,979 --> 02:11:40,589wanted to get people interested in the
290602:11:37,470 --> 02:11:42,180topic that wouldn't ordinarily do so
290702:11:40,590 --> 02:11:44,520because they're always thinking aliens
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290802:11:42,180 --> 02:11:47,340and abductions and spaceships crashing
290902:11:44,520 --> 02:11:51,440down most of the people who read my book
291002:11:47,340 --> 02:11:55,920say that it is laugh-out-loud funny
291102:11:51,439 --> 02:12:00,259because I take you to famous UFO sites
291202:11:55,920 --> 02:12:02,880and I have a number of misadventures and
291302:12:00,260 --> 02:12:06,210you know it's embarrassing stuff in some
291402:12:02,880 --> 02:12:08,909cases but it's funny and I just put it
291502:12:06,210 --> 02:12:11,010in there because I think you know I want
291602:12:08,909 --> 02:12:13,680people to be entertained and educated at
291702:12:11,010 --> 02:12:17,909the same time and I think my book does
291802:12:13,680 --> 02:12:20,579that so educate entertain you know that
291902:12:17,909 --> 02:12:22,949was another goal and then I wanted to
292002:12:20,579 --> 02:12:26,329make a contribution to the field of
292102:12:22,949 --> 02:12:28,979ufology you know I view that as an
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292202:12:26,329 --> 02:12:31,289impressionist painting a great Renoir
292302:12:28,979 --> 02:12:33,779and you know there's a million little
292402:12:31,289 --> 02:12:35,519dots and I'm hoping that I can just put
292502:12:33,779 --> 02:12:37,559a couple little dots on that painting
292602:12:35,520 --> 02:12:41,430and eventually we're going to get a
292702:12:37,560 --> 02:12:44,250perfect masterpiece on what it is that
292802:12:41,430 --> 02:12:46,980is actually going on so that kind of
292902:12:44,250 --> 02:12:48,659tells you what my motivations were and
293002:12:46,979 --> 02:12:52,859and what my goals were for writing the
293102:12:48,659 --> 02:12:54,869book how has it been taken in the UFO
293202:12:52,859 --> 02:12:57,509field because people in this field are
293302:12:54,869 --> 02:12:59,760so finicky and so fickle with their
293402:12:57,510 --> 02:13:01,710ideas and their perceptions of what UF
293502:12:59,760 --> 02:13:04,739ology truly is what was the reaction
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02:13:01,710 --> 02:13:06,840from people in the know then we know you
293702:13:04,739 --> 02:13:09,599were Stanton Friedman loved it but
293802:13:06,840 --> 02:13:11,369anybody else that was really coming up
293902:13:09,600 --> 02:13:13,020to you and saying hey how did you get
294002:13:11,369 --> 02:13:18,329this or where did you get this idea this
294102:13:13,020 --> 02:13:21,840is pretty good you know so far I don't
294202:13:18,329 --> 02:13:25,050have any you know additional feedback
294302:13:21,840 --> 02:13:27,270except for the people who were my
294402:13:25,050 --> 02:13:29,520endorsers because in many cases they
294502:13:27,270 --> 02:13:32,250read the draft chapters and gave me
294602:13:29,520 --> 02:13:35,760feedback and gave me some guidance but I
294702:13:32,250 --> 02:13:37,680have found it very easy to trade books
294802:13:35,760 --> 02:13:38,920with people in the field who said oh
294902:13:37,680 --> 02:13:40,750I've heard about this
295002:13:38,920 --> 02:13:44,079
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I'm so glad you brought a copy like
295102:13:40,750 --> 02:13:46,149Richard Dolan for example unfortunately
295202:13:44,079 --> 02:13:48,130when I trade there's a copy with Richard
295302:13:46,149 --> 02:13:51,399I'd already had a handful of his books
295402:13:48,130 --> 02:13:55,300so I traded him for Bruce maccabees book
295502:13:51,399 --> 02:13:57,219who Richards company published but you
295602:13:55,300 --> 02:14:01,170know Richard was looking forward to
295702:13:57,219 --> 02:14:06,369reading it I hope he has people like
295802:14:01,170 --> 02:14:07,989rosemary guy Lee I've got a copy here of
295902:14:06,369 --> 02:14:15,909a book I want to make sure that I get
296002:14:07,988 --> 02:14:19,718her name right sherry Wilde dr. Jacobs
296102:14:15,909 --> 02:14:22,029who just wrote a book called they walk
296202:14:19,719 --> 02:14:25,289among us he and I traded books and and I
296302:14:22,029 --> 02:14:28,448actually had dinner with dr. Jacobs and
296402:14:25,289 --> 02:14:30,698Yvonne Smith at the International UFO
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296502:14:28,448 --> 02:14:32,229Congress back in February so when I
296602:14:30,698 --> 02:14:34,299showed up in June with my book is oh
296702:14:32,229 --> 02:14:36,250this is really great so I'm getting a
296802:14:34,300 --> 02:14:38,650good reaction I also traded books with
296902:14:36,250 --> 02:14:40,029Jim Marrs and so there's a handful of
297002:14:38,649 --> 02:14:41,920others who said oh yeah I've heard about
297102:14:40,029 --> 02:14:44,279this I'm really interested and you know
297202:14:41,920 --> 02:14:46,539we chat up about wright-patterson I
297302:14:44,279 --> 02:14:49,119discussed this with Whitley Strieber
297402:14:46,539 --> 02:14:51,219also discuss it with George Murray and
297502:14:49,119 --> 02:14:54,609both of it had said hey you got to be on
297602:14:51,219 --> 02:14:57,039my show so far I don't have a response
297702:14:54,609 --> 02:14:59,139yet so you know I'm probably planned out
297802:14:57,039 --> 02:15:00,850you know six months forward but I'm
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297902:14:59,140 --> 02:15:02,500getting the nice reaction like wow
298002:15:00,850 --> 02:15:04,810somebody from white pad who really
298102:15:02,500 --> 02:15:06,789worked there is actually wrote a book
298202:15:04,810 --> 02:15:08,800about it and this is so refreshing you
298302:15:06,789 --> 02:15:10,689know most people never set foot on the
298402:15:08,800 --> 02:15:12,340base and you know they they wrote books
298502:15:10,689 --> 02:15:15,089but you know how much of that can we
298602:15:12,340 --> 02:15:18,159really believe so it's really been a
298702:15:15,090 --> 02:15:19,090positive response that I've gotten for
298802:15:18,159 --> 02:15:20,889all the right reasons
298902:15:19,090 --> 02:15:24,520and I have a whole bunch of books that I
299002:15:20,890 --> 02:15:27,100need to catch up on and read oh for sure
299102:15:24,520 --> 02:15:29,770it's a great way to definitely get the
299202:15:27,100 --> 02:15:31,719product out there as well what about the
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02:15:29,770 --> 02:15:33,550UFO community though let's take the
299402:15:31,719 --> 02:15:35,710names aside we're talking the
299502:15:33,550 --> 02:15:38,320experiencers the people who may not have
299602:15:35,710 --> 02:15:41,020the popularity how is that gone for
299702:15:38,319 --> 02:15:43,659sales with you because like I said this
299802:15:41,020 --> 02:15:45,790is a very fickle field when it comes to
299902:15:43,659 --> 02:15:48,729people and what they read what they buy
300002:15:45,789 --> 02:15:51,310especially if you're new trying to get
300102:15:48,729 --> 02:15:51,919into the fold and take your research to
300202:15:51,310 --> 02:15:56,480that if
300302:15:51,920 --> 02:15:59,960level at the International UFO Congress
300402:15:56,479 --> 02:16:03,859I launched the book I sold out the three
300502:15:59,960 --> 02:16:08,719dozen copies that I brought with me in
300602:16:03,859 --> 02:16:10,15990 minutes and it it made Stanton
300702:16:08,719 --> 02:16:13,159
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Freeman's hair turn white because he
300802:16:10,159 --> 02:16:16,189couldn't believe why my lime was out the
300902:16:13,159 --> 02:16:18,800door and he didn't realize that Paul
301002:16:16,189 --> 02:16:22,399Davis had given me a boost at his
301102:16:18,800 --> 02:16:24,860presentation I also took four dozen
301202:16:22,399 --> 02:16:27,019orders where people prepaid me for the
301302:16:24,859 --> 02:16:28,670book and I want out shipping yet after I
301402:16:27,020 --> 02:16:31,520got back from the conference so I sold
301502:16:28,670 --> 02:16:32,989seven dozen books in a matter of a
301602:16:31,520 --> 02:16:36,170couple of days and could have done more
301702:16:32,989 --> 02:16:40,849but they couldn't resupply me in such a
301802:16:36,170 --> 02:16:43,460short notice every time I go to a talk I
301902:16:40,849 --> 02:16:46,969think there were 50 people at the North
302002:16:43,459 --> 02:16:50,359Carolina MUFON chapter meeting that I
302102:16:46,968 --> 02:16:52,819briefed and I sold 24 books
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302202:16:50,360 --> 02:16:55,670so half the people in the audience blood
302302:16:52,819 --> 02:16:58,099books and I know several more purchased
302402:16:55,670 --> 02:16:59,989them afterwards because you know they
302502:16:58,099 --> 02:17:01,849send me emails because my email address
302602:16:59,989 --> 02:17:03,558is in there and it's like oh I didn't
302702:17:01,849 --> 02:17:06,290bring cash or you know I wasn't really
302802:17:03,558 --> 02:17:08,420sure about this but after your talk you
302902:17:06,290 --> 02:17:12,170know I had to run and I couldn't wait in
303002:17:08,420 --> 02:17:14,659line to buy a book and it goes well I
303102:17:12,170 --> 02:17:18,319sell a lot of books that when I make a
303202:17:14,659 --> 02:17:24,010personal presentation or after I do a
303302:17:18,319 --> 02:17:26,539show like this I was the winner of the
303402:17:24,010 --> 02:17:29,809nonfiction bestseller award for the
303502:17:26,540 --> 02:17:31,880Dayton Book Expo in April so people show
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303602:17:29,808 --> 02:17:33,649up you know there's 100 authors there
303702:17:31,879 --> 02:17:34,789and they pick and choose whose books
303802:17:33,649 --> 02:17:36,138they want to buy in at the end of the
303902:17:34,790 --> 02:17:38,120night they tell you how many books you
304002:17:36,138 --> 02:17:40,188sell and then they give you you know a
304102:17:38,120 --> 02:17:42,410nice little it's piece of glass to
304202:17:40,189 --> 02:17:45,469commemorate you know who sold the most
304302:17:42,409 --> 02:17:48,468book so it was popular there I'm going
304402:17:45,468 --> 02:17:49,669to be now this is something your
304502:17:48,468 --> 02:17:53,268audience is probably going to take a
304602:17:49,670 --> 02:17:57,519deep breath on I am going to be selling
304702:17:53,269 --> 02:18:02,329my book at the United States Air Force
304802:17:57,519 --> 02:18:05,909Marathon expell on the 15th and 16th of
304902:18:02,329 --> 02:18:10,889this month so get your head wrapped
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02:18:05,909 --> 02:18:13,369roundest listeners the kryptonite of the
305102:18:10,889 --> 02:18:16,379US air force which is talk about UFOs
305202:18:13,370 --> 02:18:20,160I'm actually going to be selling my book
305302:18:16,379 --> 02:18:21,119at their Expo for two days it's going to
305402:18:20,159 --> 02:18:24,860be at the Wright State University
305502:18:21,120 --> 02:18:28,829another Center on Colonel Glenn and
305602:18:24,860 --> 02:18:30,600Northfield Road in Fairborn Ohio hours
305702:18:28,829 --> 02:18:32,879are 11 o'clock in the morning to 8
305802:18:30,600 --> 02:18:34,530o'clock at night I know a lot of people
305902:18:32,879 --> 02:18:36,179are going are you kidding me an Air
306002:18:34,530 --> 02:18:39,320Force function and they're gonna let you
306102:18:36,179 --> 02:18:42,299sell your book and the answer is yes so
306202:18:39,319 --> 02:18:46,020you know the response has been great I
306302:18:42,299 --> 02:18:47,789wish it was better I'm not trying to let
306402:18:46,020 --> 02:18:49,679
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this thing take over my life so I've
306502:18:47,790 --> 02:18:51,990been really picking and choosing what
306602:18:49,679 --> 02:18:55,829interviews I do and what presentations I
306702:18:51,989 --> 02:19:00,329make and I do want to put it out there
306802:18:55,829 --> 02:19:03,450that the first major conference like
306902:19:00,329 --> 02:19:06,030Roswell or International UFO Congress or
307002:19:03,450 --> 02:19:08,760contact in the desert that offers me a
307102:19:06,030 --> 02:19:11,190spot on your dais is going to get the
307202:19:08,760 --> 02:19:16,550real inside scoop in the benefit of my
307302:19:11,190 --> 02:19:16,550research and the real story on hangar 18
307402:19:16,819 --> 02:19:20,579so I just dropped the bombshell for you
307502:19:19,409 --> 02:19:23,789you can thank me later
307602:19:20,579 --> 02:19:25,379well I had to appreciate that I'm I'm a
307702:19:23,790 --> 02:19:28,679little jaw drop out of that thank you
307802:19:25,379 --> 02:19:30,209for doing that I got a couple of
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307902:19:28,679 --> 02:19:32,219questions here that I want to get in
308002:19:30,209 --> 02:19:35,699from Claudia and the SOR space travelers
308102:19:32,218 --> 02:19:38,879Club on Facebook if you don't mind she
308202:19:35,700 --> 02:19:41,100is asking what UFO story did you Ray
308302:19:38,879 --> 02:19:45,379hear from an experiencer that what you
308402:19:41,100 --> 02:19:45,380felt was so fascinating incredible I
308502:19:45,920 --> 02:19:52,560spent the day with Travis Walton at his
308602:19:48,899 --> 02:19:54,329abduction site and we went up there to
308702:19:52,560 --> 02:19:57,180do a little science experiment and a
308802:19:54,329 --> 02:20:00,601photo shoot and that's covered in its
308902:19:57,180 --> 02:20:04,260own chapter in my book so Travis met me
309002:20:00,601 --> 02:20:06,780up and Hebrew but he got into my 4x4
309102:20:04,260 --> 02:20:08,069which I had rented and we slip slide at
309202:20:06,780 --> 02:20:10,290our way all the way through the
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309302:20:08,069 --> 02:20:13,890apache-sitgreaves National Forest on
309402:20:10,290 --> 02:20:19,511three inches of mud we chased wild
309502:20:13,890 --> 02:20:21,789horses through the park there and there
309602:20:19,511 --> 02:20:24,610bloody pictures with Travis and I you
309702:20:21,790 --> 02:20:26,530know arm over shoulder taking
309802:20:24,610 --> 02:20:29,739photographs at the site where he was
309902:20:26,530 --> 02:20:31,811basically taken away for five days so
310002:20:29,739 --> 02:20:33,789having gotten to spend the entire day
310102:20:31,810 --> 02:20:37,390with him and actually taking photographs
310202:20:33,790 --> 02:20:40,570of residual evidence and that evidence
310302:20:37,390 --> 02:20:43,329is incorporated into a movie by Jen
310402:20:40,569 --> 02:20:46,479Stein called Travis and I think it's
310502:20:43,329 --> 02:20:48,341coming out this fall so spending day
310602:20:46,479 --> 02:20:50,739with him and actually seeing the human
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02:20:48,341 --> 02:20:53,620side of Travis and talking to him and
310802:20:50,739 --> 02:20:56,860getting like Travis is going we came up
310902:20:53,620 --> 02:20:59,860that road here's were the car stop
311002:20:56,860 --> 02:21:02,051here's where the craft was here's what I
311102:20:59,860 --> 02:21:07,271stopped here's where we walk and getting
311202:21:02,050 --> 02:21:09,250literally a first-person tour of the
311302:21:07,271 --> 02:21:12,700site which is still kind of you know
311402:21:09,250 --> 02:21:15,700unknown today and being able to cross
311502:21:12,700 --> 02:21:17,740examine him and you know there was no
311602:21:15,700 --> 02:21:21,190question he didn't answer
311702:21:17,739 --> 02:21:25,360you know I am it was a fabulous day he's
311802:21:21,190 --> 02:21:27,971a great guy and I am just I put my
311902:21:25,360 --> 02:21:30,159finger in the hole of doubt and came out
312002:21:27,970 --> 02:21:32,890with the truth and I'm just so convinced
312102:21:30,159 --> 02:21:36,159
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that that story is the truth the whole
312202:21:32,890 --> 02:21:38,710truth and nothing but the truth another
312302:21:36,159 --> 02:21:40,091question from Claudia here rate what
312402:21:38,710 --> 02:21:42,399made you get into the field of ufology
312502:21:40,091 --> 02:21:44,771did you have family or friends who had
312602:21:42,399 --> 02:21:51,300experiences or was it just a lifelong
312702:21:44,771 --> 02:21:53,141interest to you my very first week of
312802:21:51,300 --> 02:21:53,859employment at wright-patterson Air Force
312902:21:53,140 --> 02:21:56,380Base
313002:21:53,860 --> 02:21:58,301I had Corvette al tell me about the
313102:21:56,380 --> 02:22:02,220aliens and the tunnels and then when I
313202:21:58,300 --> 02:22:04,720would use that as sort of a party
313302:22:02,220 --> 02:22:06,279discussion with somebody and say hey
313402:22:04,720 --> 02:22:09,100know what do you know about this
313502:22:06,280 --> 02:22:11,381everyone was yeah yeah we sure we do and
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313602:22:09,101 --> 02:22:14,409you know we evaluated them here and just
313702:22:11,380 --> 02:22:18,609you know come read on Project Blue Book
313802:22:14,409 --> 02:22:19,569so there was this cultural immersion at
313902:22:18,610 --> 02:22:21,551wright-patterson Air Force Base
314002:22:19,569 --> 02:22:23,770everybody I asked through the years oh
314102:22:21,550 --> 02:22:27,010yeah of course you know we did this and
314202:22:23,771 --> 02:22:30,909you know this guy was here and so that
314302:22:27,011 --> 02:22:32,880just festered for years and in 2008 I
314402:22:30,909 --> 02:22:35,431found myself
314502:22:32,879 --> 02:22:37,529on a trip to Boston and I had some time
314602:22:35,431 --> 02:22:39,300in the afternoon and I went up to Exeter
314702:22:37,530 --> 02:22:42,570New Hampshire to do a photo shoot up
314802:22:39,299 --> 02:22:45,209there and to research it and I met guys
314902:22:42,569 --> 02:22:47,279whose fathers names were mentioned in in
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315002:22:45,209 --> 02:22:50,369the famous John fuller book incident at
315102:22:47,280 --> 02:22:53,730Exeter so in 2008 I got serious about
315202:22:50,370 --> 02:22:57,061doing field studies and just immerse
315302:22:53,729 --> 02:22:59,100myself finding new evidence talking to
315402:22:57,060 --> 02:23:02,420the experts meeting people that knew
315502:22:59,101 --> 02:23:05,271stuff that wasn't published before and
315602:23:02,420 --> 02:23:09,271kind of like if the seed was planted in
315702:23:05,271 --> 02:23:11,0701973 and it just hit me in 2008 so I
315802:23:09,271 --> 02:23:13,681don't know what the turtle was in 2008
315902:23:11,069 --> 02:23:15,539probably like you know I
316002:23:13,681 --> 02:23:17,489it might have been the sightings in
316102:23:15,540 --> 02:23:20,370Arizona but something tripped that
316202:23:17,489 --> 02:23:25,049switch and I just started to get into it
316302:23:20,370 --> 02:23:26,790really heavy Joe has a comment in the
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02:23:25,049 --> 02:23:29,549Esso our space travelers he's actually
316502:23:26,790 --> 02:23:31,440right now been posting some weird lights
316602:23:29,549 --> 02:23:33,689over top of his house on the Nevada
316702:23:31,440 --> 02:23:36,120California border he's asking have you
316802:23:33,690 --> 02:23:41,250ever taken a photo of an unknown aerial
316902:23:36,120 --> 02:23:45,090object no but in my next book I'm going
317002:23:41,250 --> 02:23:49,771to publish at least one of them a friend
317102:23:45,090 --> 02:23:53,310that I worked with has a son and he was
317202:23:49,771 --> 02:23:55,079out at Chaco Canyon and he was taking
317302:23:53,310 --> 02:23:57,840photographs with his granny and some
317402:23:55,079 --> 02:23:59,819other folks they got back to the
317502:23:57,840 --> 02:24:01,620grandmother's house they threw these
317602:23:59,819 --> 02:24:03,539things up on a computer screen they
317702:24:01,620 --> 02:24:06,420probably took this chip out or they you
317802:24:03,540 --> 02:24:08,311
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know can it was on a cell phone and the
317902:24:06,420 --> 02:24:09,870grandmother notices that what's that
318002:24:08,310 --> 02:24:10,860spot and it was one of these beauties
318102:24:09,870 --> 02:24:13,021you know like you see in all these
318202:24:10,860 --> 02:24:14,760western movies and if you ever been out
318302:24:13,021 --> 02:24:18,000to Chaco Canyon which i think is like
318402:24:14,760 --> 02:24:20,969the best and largest Preserve prey blows
318502:24:18,000 --> 02:24:22,560you know in the country they notice this
318602:24:20,969 --> 02:24:24,359time and they did blew it up and they
318702:24:22,560 --> 02:24:28,860realize that they had this oval shaped
318802:24:24,360 --> 02:24:31,470object so I threw a von Smith in fact
318902:24:28,860 --> 02:24:33,960she got me in touch with Rick Shaw he's
319002:24:31,469 --> 02:24:36,750out of California and he's a he can do
319102:24:33,959 --> 02:24:39,329photo analysis his work is video hoes
319202:24:36,750 --> 02:24:41,670and video analysis so he was a qualified
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319302:24:39,329 --> 02:24:43,379guy to do that and he said after he
319402:24:41,670 --> 02:24:45,090looked at and he gave me all the
319502:24:43,379 --> 02:24:46,409technical things and he actually took
319602:24:45,090 --> 02:24:48,870the photo and whoo
319702:24:46,409 --> 02:24:51,750arrows and paragraphs like alice's
319802:24:48,870 --> 02:24:55,079restaurant and he said the last thing i
319902:24:51,750 --> 02:24:57,239need to know is is what about the person
320002:24:55,079 --> 02:25:00,510who took this photo did you vet them and
320102:24:57,239 --> 02:25:02,369i had done a couple of hours of
320202:25:00,510 --> 02:25:04,889interview of the person and the mother
320302:25:02,370 --> 02:25:06,660and you know did the research and there
320402:25:04,889 --> 02:25:09,859was no doubt in my mind that this person
320502:25:06,659 --> 02:25:12,930took and gave me an authentic photograph
320602:25:09,860 --> 02:25:16,110that they didn't have time nor the
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320702:25:12,930 --> 02:25:18,510equipment to do any adjustment to it
320802:25:16,110 --> 02:25:21,060because the photo came out of their
320902:25:18,510 --> 02:25:24,689phone you know at the moment they got
321002:25:21,059 --> 02:25:27,809home so you know to me it's authentic
321102:25:24,689 --> 02:25:32,430what it is i don't know but i've never
321202:25:27,809 --> 02:25:35,039taken one that i know of but certainly
321302:25:32,430 --> 02:25:37,319my friend has and that was almost going
321402:25:35,040 --> 02:25:39,180to be the cover of my book but nick pope
321502:25:37,319 --> 02:25:41,340told me it's too subtle you don't want
321602:25:39,180 --> 02:25:44,069to be subtle on your book cover so that
321702:25:41,340 --> 02:25:47,159didn't happen but i love to publish it
321802:25:44,069 --> 02:25:48,840and in my next book another question
321902:25:47,159 --> 02:25:50,850from claudia here in the sor space
322002:25:48,840 --> 02:25:52,559travelers and when she gets going she
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02:25:50,850 --> 02:25:56,130gets going really well with some good
322202:25:52,559 --> 02:25:58,049questions goodbye man is asking right if
322302:25:56,129 --> 02:26:01,049someone were to have an experience with
322402:25:58,049 --> 02:26:03,119an alien or UFO what proof would you
322502:26:01,049 --> 02:26:05,369need as a researcher to make it credible
322602:26:03,120 --> 02:26:09,680can you give us a list of what you would
322702:26:05,370 --> 02:26:09,680need before we reported an experience
322802:26:12,139 --> 02:26:19,199well at this point i'm just happy that
322902:26:15,978 --> 02:26:21,059they believe enough in me to tell me
323002:26:19,200 --> 02:26:24,120their story and and i actually have
323102:26:21,059 --> 02:26:27,539people who claim to be experiencers who
323202:26:24,120 --> 02:26:31,229have offered to be the subjects of my
323302:26:27,540 --> 02:26:32,820upcoming book so at this point you know
323402:26:31,228 --> 02:26:36,629i'm taking it on faith
323502:26:32,819 --> 02:26:38,879
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but once i get their stories down and I
323602:26:36,629 --> 02:26:41,759get enough particular that I can
323702:26:38,879 --> 02:26:47,219research then I'll try to verify that on
323802:26:41,760 --> 02:26:50,100my own and in fact what I have suggested
323902:26:47,219 --> 02:26:52,709and just Dancer de bout and this is what
324002:26:50,100 --> 02:26:56,970maybe you know after hours we're going
324102:26:52,709 --> 02:27:00,000to talk about is I had floated the
324202:26:56,969 --> 02:27:02,639balloon about genetic testing
324302:27:00,000 --> 02:27:05,750and whether or not we could find certain
324402:27:02,639 --> 02:27:08,969blood markers that would differentiate
324502:27:05,750 --> 02:27:11,299people who claim to be hybrids or aliens
324602:27:08,969 --> 02:27:14,579or that from the rest of the population
324702:27:11,299 --> 02:27:16,648and I'm getting a mixed reaction on that
324802:27:14,579 --> 02:27:18,389right now you know the people who are
324902:27:16,648 --> 02:27:21,059the researchers tell me well it's
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325002:27:18,389 --> 02:27:23,639expensive and it's a great idea and I
325102:27:21,059 --> 02:27:26,579just the other day uncovered something
325202:27:23,639 --> 02:27:29,539from somebody who found blood markers
325302:27:26,579 --> 02:27:32,789and they're doing that on people and
325402:27:29,540 --> 02:27:35,399instantaneously I can't recall what the
325502:27:32,790 --> 02:27:38,090difference is but they oh they did they
325602:27:35,398 --> 02:27:40,528did find some markers that are unique i
325702:27:38,090 --> 02:27:42,659what they are now I just can't recall
325802:27:40,529 --> 02:27:45,479because I'd only seen the show once but
325902:27:42,659 --> 02:27:48,840I recommended or suggested to the people
326002:27:45,478 --> 02:27:51,358that I want to be part of my research
326102:27:48,840 --> 02:27:52,920about okay you know if we're going to do
326202:27:51,359 --> 02:27:55,229this then we're going to do some DNA
326302:27:52,920 --> 02:27:57,120testing and you know I need all hands to
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326402:27:55,228 --> 02:27:59,129class together and say you know break
326502:27:57,120 --> 02:28:02,579we're going to do this so I haven't
326602:27:59,129 --> 02:28:04,949convinced them yet but if I had that
326702:28:02,579 --> 02:28:07,559kind of evidence then it's more than
326802:28:04,950 --> 02:28:09,659evidence it's proof but just to talk to
326902:28:07,559 --> 02:28:12,000me in to have somebody tell me their
327002:28:09,659 --> 02:28:12,930story I don't really need any evidence
327102:28:12,000 --> 02:28:15,090at this point you know if it's
327202:28:12,930 --> 02:28:16,738interesting enough I'll ask more
327302:28:15,090 --> 02:28:20,520questions and I'll get more factoids and
327402:28:16,738 --> 02:28:21,898I'll eventually dig into it but no I you
327502:28:20,520 --> 02:28:25,710know you don't need a square in a Bible
327602:28:21,898 --> 02:28:27,389to tell me your story do you have them
327702:28:25,709 --> 02:28:31,589plans to write more books about these
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02:28:27,389 --> 02:28:34,439topics in regard well like do you even
327902:28:31,590 --> 02:28:36,420it are you gonna stay focused on on UFOs
328002:28:34,439 --> 02:28:40,939are you gonna get more into experiencers
328102:28:36,420 --> 02:28:43,859or maybe try to expand the whole genre I
328202:28:40,939 --> 02:28:45,479think right now my focus is a follow-up
328302:28:43,859 --> 02:28:47,068book to white pads that the one I'm
328402:28:45,478 --> 02:28:49,949gonna get enough people to read it and
328502:28:47,068 --> 02:28:51,090and plow some ground and hopefully
328602:28:49,950 --> 02:28:53,550someone's going to come out of the
328702:28:51,090 --> 02:28:56,299woodwork and say you know what I've got
328802:28:53,549 --> 02:28:58,648the story I want to get off my chest and
328902:28:56,299 --> 02:29:00,119hopefully I can publish it you know I
329002:28:58,648 --> 02:29:02,939had a guy come up to me in North
329102:29:00,120 --> 02:29:05,399Carolina and he said the story you told
329202:29:02,939 --> 02:29:08,220
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us about the man in black being an FTD
329302:29:05,398 --> 02:29:10,799and you know you talked to him on the
329402:29:08,219 --> 02:29:12,929campus of the intelligence agency and
329502:29:10,799 --> 02:29:13,479everything else he told us he said your
329602:29:12,930 --> 02:29:17,319story
329702:29:13,479 --> 02:29:20,921he is spot-on and I said how do you know
329802:29:17,319 --> 02:29:23,529and he said I was an OSI agent for 30
329902:29:20,921 --> 02:29:25,211years I was a senior agent and and
330002:29:23,530 --> 02:29:30,311you're you know if you know your history
330102:29:25,210 --> 02:29:33,010the OSI did UFO investigations so if
330202:29:30,310 --> 02:29:35,261there were men in black at some time in
330302:29:33,011 --> 02:29:38,290this man's career then he would probably
330402:29:35,261 --> 02:29:40,390cross paths with them but regardless he
330502:29:38,290 --> 02:29:42,671was telling me look at I'm a former OSI
330602:29:40,390 --> 02:29:44,979guy and you're still respond now
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330702:29:42,671 --> 02:29:47,050could it be lying to me that guess so
330802:29:44,979 --> 02:29:49,239he's the last guy in line and he's the
330902:29:47,050 --> 02:29:51,220last guy buying a book and so I'm
331002:29:49,239 --> 02:29:55,210thinking I'm gonna be slick and I go who
331102:29:51,220 --> 02:29:56,800do I autograph this book to you know
331202:29:55,210 --> 02:29:59,170hoping he's going to tell me his name
331302:29:56,800 --> 02:30:01,810but he did it he gave me a nickname and
331402:29:59,171 --> 02:30:04,630he just smiled and of course I autograph
331502:30:01,810 --> 02:30:09,909the book and you know reported as
331602:30:04,630 --> 02:30:12,939offense so there are people that are
331702:30:09,909 --> 02:30:14,560coming out and telling me things so
331802:30:12,940 --> 02:30:17,560that's why I think I'll have another
331902:30:14,560 --> 02:30:19,270good book that's more along the line of
332002:30:17,560 --> 02:30:22,329my first one and I'm really interested
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332102:30:19,271 --> 02:30:24,159in the experience or phenomena and I'd
332202:30:22,329 --> 02:30:28,931really like to do a book about that too
332302:30:24,159 --> 02:30:31,329but if I if I can't in my heart say I
332402:30:28,931 --> 02:30:33,461really really believe their stories or
332502:30:31,329 --> 02:30:35,620you know I can't get them to cooperate
332602:30:33,460 --> 02:30:37,840and I think there's something fishy then
332702:30:35,620 --> 02:30:40,750I just won't publish that it'll just be
332802:30:37,841 --> 02:30:43,300you know I think I'll keep them myself
332902:30:40,750 --> 02:30:43,690see what I think that's what I like yeah
333002:30:43,300 --> 02:30:45,699go ahead
333102:30:43,690 --> 02:30:49,690what I would love a writer to do such as
333202:30:45,700 --> 02:30:53,851yourself is I would love to see a writer
333302:30:49,690 --> 02:30:57,370take on the whole blanket of paranormal
333402:30:53,851 --> 02:30:59,860because I truly believe that it's a
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02:30:57,370 --> 02:31:02,110topic that really no one is talking
333602:30:59,860 --> 02:31:04,329about because everybody tries to to
333702:31:02,110 --> 02:31:06,551break off the branches okay we got UFOs
333802:31:04,329 --> 02:31:08,921here we got ETS an abduction here we
333902:31:06,550 --> 02:31:10,810have ghosts here and demons and over
334002:31:08,921 --> 02:31:12,729here we have the cryptids with Bigfoot
334102:31:10,810 --> 02:31:15,899and dog man and frog man and Mothman and
334202:31:12,729 --> 02:31:20,579whatever man you want to come up with
334302:31:15,899 --> 02:31:24,819but in my own personal experience ray
334402:31:20,579 --> 02:31:27,610mine went from in in the span of three
334502:31:24,819 --> 02:31:32,530and a half years it went from
334602:31:27,610 --> 02:31:36,610straight paranormal two cryptid two UFOs
334702:31:32,531 --> 02:31:37,990two alien encounters and I am a firm
334802:31:36,610 --> 02:31:40,990believer and I know a few of our
334902:31:37,990 --> 02:31:44,380
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listeners are as well that there is some
335002:31:40,990 --> 02:31:48,040sort of perennial tie-in between the
335102:31:44,380 --> 02:31:51,300whole gamut of paranormal and it seems
335202:31:48,040 --> 02:31:54,220like there are very few if any people
335302:31:51,300 --> 02:31:57,100especially writers who want to take on
335402:31:54,220 --> 02:32:00,100that topic to try and find what is the
335502:31:57,101 --> 02:32:01,810connection between all of these fields
335602:32:00,101 --> 02:32:06,641have you ever thought about something
335702:32:01,810 --> 02:32:09,690like that I have now I am and I'll use
335802:32:06,640 --> 02:32:13,720the word friend very loosely here but
335902:32:09,690 --> 02:32:16,060you know I've had extensive conversation
336002:32:13,720 --> 02:32:18,399with crop circle people like say paddy
336102:32:16,060 --> 02:32:19,831grill you know who's who's at the top of
336202:32:18,399 --> 02:32:24,931the field has done some wonderful work
336302:32:19,831 --> 02:32:27,190I've I've done the same thing with the
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336402:32:24,931 --> 02:32:29,261experience for people like Avon Smith I
336502:32:27,190 --> 02:32:31,511sit through the experience of sessions
336602:32:29,261 --> 02:32:33,610that she runs she actually with the
336702:32:31,511 --> 02:32:35,621permission of the client let me sit
336802:32:33,610 --> 02:32:39,069through one of her regressions so I
336902:32:35,620 --> 02:32:41,800actually got to see this in action I'm
337002:32:39,069 --> 02:32:45,520friends with somebody we just published
337102:32:41,800 --> 02:32:49,841a book in fact they just sent me a
337202:32:45,521 --> 02:32:54,011message they wrote a book this is sandy
337302:32:49,841 --> 02:32:58,331Harrington and she wrote a book which it
337402:32:54,011 --> 02:33:02,970addresses the walkins phenomena and so
337502:32:58,331 --> 02:33:06,190the point I'm trying to get at is that
337602:33:02,970 --> 02:33:08,439for some reason somehow these people
337702:33:06,190 --> 02:33:11,140have come into my life
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337802:33:08,440 --> 02:33:13,301some briefly summer staged you know many
337902:33:11,140 --> 02:33:15,729you know I can go back and you know we
338002:33:13,300 --> 02:33:18,130exchanged emails on a regular basis so
338102:33:15,729 --> 02:33:21,939I'm getting exposure to all these areas
338202:33:18,130 --> 02:33:25,600and I'm getting comfortable with areas
338302:33:21,940 --> 02:33:28,721that I I never even thought of before so
338402:33:25,601 --> 02:33:30,581I think if I would write a book it's
338502:33:28,720 --> 02:33:32,710just going to be by happenstance it's
338602:33:30,581 --> 02:33:34,931going to be a look at you really know a
338702:33:32,710 --> 02:33:36,399lot about this and you know a lot about
338802:33:34,931 --> 02:33:40,121that I mean a lot about that and then
338902:33:36,399 --> 02:33:41,318suddenly you know my my researcher
339002:33:40,120 --> 02:33:43,628background is going to kick in
339102:33:41,318 --> 02:33:45,908and and you know theories are going to
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02:33:43,629 --> 02:33:49,390abound that maybe I can bind all of
339302:33:45,908 --> 02:33:53,498these areas together but for me to try
339402:33:49,389 --> 02:33:54,818to eat the elephant in one bite and go
339502:33:53,498 --> 02:33:57,639I'm just going to write a book about
339602:33:54,818 --> 02:33:59,350this I just don't think it's practical I
339702:33:57,639 --> 02:34:02,498think it would just drive me totally out
339802:33:59,350 --> 02:34:06,338of my mind and you know I'm retired I
339902:34:02,498 --> 02:34:09,850don't need the book sales I don't have
340002:34:06,338 --> 02:34:12,818to concoct things to you know get
340102:34:09,850 --> 02:34:15,550speaking engagements at conferences you
340202:34:12,818 --> 02:34:18,158know I'm independent of what happens
340302:34:15,549 --> 02:34:19,868with these with these book sales so I
340402:34:18,158 --> 02:34:22,868can pick and choose what I want to do
340502:34:19,869 --> 02:34:26,140and keep it factual even if it's a bit
340602:34:22,869 --> 02:34:27,699
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boring and I think that's good for the
340702:34:26,139 --> 02:34:29,318consumer because they're gonna know that
340802:34:27,699 --> 02:34:32,260I've dug everything the ground and I've
340902:34:29,318 --> 02:34:34,238researched it but I just don't have the
341002:34:32,260 --> 02:34:36,338time at this point in the near future
341102:34:34,238 --> 02:34:39,338especially putting together two more
341202:34:36,338 --> 02:34:41,738poems here to go yeah I think I'd like
341302:34:39,338 --> 02:34:43,930to do that I think if it happens it's
341402:34:41,738 --> 02:34:49,389just gonna be like a natural progression
341502:34:43,930 --> 02:34:55,389from the previous work I've done I just
341602:34:49,389 --> 02:34:57,128think it's some unknown tie and it makes
341702:34:55,389 --> 02:34:59,049me scratch my head my friend Eric Cooper
341802:34:57,129 --> 02:35:01,449from forest moon paranormal him and I
341902:34:59,049 --> 02:35:05,259talked about it quite frequently about
342002:35:01,449 --> 02:35:08,739what the tie is and he has some theories
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342102:35:05,260 --> 02:35:12,639and they make sense but I'm just not
342202:35:08,738 --> 02:35:14,078sure if I'm fully 100% convinced and
342302:35:12,639 --> 02:35:15,338this is no offense to Eric because I
342402:35:14,078 --> 02:35:18,488know he's listening right now in the
342502:35:15,338 --> 02:35:21,578chat room but I'm just not fully
342602:35:18,488 --> 02:35:24,219convinced that it's something that's
342702:35:21,578 --> 02:35:25,779simple because when I replay everything
342802:35:24,219 --> 02:35:28,118that is happened to me personally over
342902:35:25,779 --> 02:35:32,109the last well we're going on five years
343002:35:28,119 --> 02:35:34,539now in December it absolutely baffles me
343102:35:32,109 --> 02:35:39,309how it can go from one extreme to
343202:35:34,539 --> 02:35:41,439another in such an even flow and that's
343302:35:39,309 --> 02:35:43,538the whole key issue and that's the
343402:35:41,439 --> 02:35:46,059reason why I asked you that question in
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343502:35:43,539 --> 02:35:48,189regards to the whole realm of the
343602:35:46,059 --> 02:35:52,658paranormal rather than just pieces and
343702:35:48,189 --> 02:35:55,119snippets of it I had a professor who
343802:35:52,658 --> 02:35:58,059would end every lecture by saying
343902:35:55,119 --> 02:36:01,449his name is dick Becky dr. Becky and he
344002:35:58,059 --> 02:36:03,998was control systems and he said every
344102:36:01,449 --> 02:36:06,759day there's so much we don't know and
344202:36:03,998 --> 02:36:09,189then he put the talk down and it's it's
344302:36:06,759 --> 02:36:12,039true there's some of these things that I
344402:36:09,189 --> 02:36:13,600had no clue about but it builds as I do
344502:36:12,039 --> 02:36:15,779a talk if someone comes up to me like
344602:36:13,600 --> 02:36:19,929I'm going to be briefing the
344702:36:15,779 --> 02:36:23,248ghost-hunting Society of Dayton in
344802:36:19,929 --> 02:36:26,439January and I never thought about that
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02:36:23,248 --> 02:36:30,998but it turns out that white cat has an
345002:36:26,439 --> 02:36:32,709extraterrestrial haunting you know in a
345102:36:30,998 --> 02:36:33,939hospital that I have access to and
345202:36:32,709 --> 02:36:36,009photographs out and that they're
345302:36:33,939 --> 02:36:37,359interested in hearing about and I'm
345402:36:36,009 --> 02:36:39,520going to find out more about what they
345502:36:37,359 --> 02:36:41,109do so it's just it's kind of like you
345602:36:39,520 --> 02:36:44,020know a snowball rolling down the hill
345702:36:41,109 --> 02:36:45,399here same thing with a Sandy Harrington
345802:36:44,020 --> 02:36:49,389I didn't know her from Adam but she
345902:36:45,398 --> 02:36:52,898showed up at a MUFON conference a MUFON
346002:36:49,388 --> 02:36:54,338chapter briefing that I gave and next
346102:36:52,898 --> 02:36:55,988thing I know you know we're exchanging
346202:36:54,338 --> 02:36:58,658emails about what she knows and her
346302:36:55,988 --> 02:37:00,850
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books and so you know it could come to
346402:36:58,658 --> 02:37:02,859that I just don't have that on my
346502:37:00,850 --> 02:37:06,459personal radio it's not that in my new
346602:37:02,859 --> 02:37:07,988top three list of things to do I've got
346702:37:06,459 --> 02:37:10,239another question from Claudia and the
346802:37:07,988 --> 02:37:12,908SOR space travelers Club she is asking
346902:37:10,238 --> 02:37:14,888an experiencer is usually in shock and
347002:37:12,908 --> 02:37:17,318will not respond in a logical way to
347102:37:14,888 --> 02:37:20,259collect evidence in the moment how many
347202:37:17,318 --> 02:37:22,148stories have you heard ray that you felt
347302:37:20,259 --> 02:37:24,968was an honest account of what happened
347402:37:22,148 --> 02:37:33,429to people but they just do not have the
347502:37:24,968 --> 02:37:35,918evidence and how do you believe them one
347602:37:33,429 --> 02:37:39,309of the persons that I'm looking at and
347702:37:35,918 --> 02:37:43,779interviewing early on to tell their
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347802:37:39,309 --> 02:37:46,718story in my book tells me that mmm every
347902:37:43,779 --> 02:37:48,039time they go back to the ship they go
348002:37:46,718 --> 02:37:51,818back with the thought that they're going
348102:37:48,039 --> 02:37:54,819to take something back with them and the
348202:37:51,818 --> 02:37:58,388experience is such that and the mind
348302:37:54,818 --> 02:38:00,398control is such that it never happens
348402:37:58,388 --> 02:38:02,318because you know the person is in
348502:38:00,398 --> 02:38:04,388somewhat of a vegetative state when
348602:38:02,318 --> 02:38:05,498they're released and when they're up
348702:38:04,388 --> 02:38:08,829there and they're you know being
348802:38:05,498 --> 02:38:11,859experimented on or being who knows what
348902:38:08,829 --> 02:38:13,750that thought just disappears they're
349002:38:11,859 --> 02:38:18,180like trying to survive or trying to deal
349102:38:13,750 --> 02:38:20,829with what's going on in in the ship so
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349202:38:18,180 --> 02:38:24,159they forget about so there's no evidence
349302:38:20,829 --> 02:38:27,639but if you read a book like Coronado by
349402:38:24,159 --> 02:38:29,350a von Smith you have several people who
349502:38:27,639 --> 02:38:32,619were at the conference at the Coronado
349602:38:29,350 --> 02:38:34,568Hotel on Coronado Island just days
349702:38:32,620 --> 02:38:36,130before President Clinton was to give a
349802:38:34,568 --> 02:38:39,489talk there so the place was crawling
349902:38:36,129 --> 02:38:41,349with Secret Service agents and a handful
350002:38:39,489 --> 02:38:42,699of the people that were known to Yvonne
350102:38:41,350 --> 02:38:43,899beforehand because they were in a
350202:38:42,700 --> 02:38:47,710support group of hers
350302:38:43,898 --> 02:38:49,930all claimed that they were abducted
350402:38:47,709 --> 02:38:51,639during the weekend that the UFO
350502:38:49,930 --> 02:38:54,340conference was being held in the hotel
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02:38:51,639 --> 02:38:56,318and not only did they see people of
350702:38:54,340 --> 02:38:59,500their support group but they saw other
350802:38:56,318 --> 02:39:01,959people in the abduction area waiting
350902:38:59,500 --> 02:39:04,148room whatever they call it that they
351002:39:01,959 --> 02:39:06,009recognized were attendees at that same
351102:39:04,148 --> 02:39:07,989conference so it's not like they were
351202:39:06,010 --> 02:39:10,210recalling faces that they saw every
351302:39:07,989 --> 02:39:12,159month in lavon's support group they
351402:39:10,209 --> 02:39:14,648actually saw other people on the ship
351502:39:12,159 --> 02:39:16,389with them who they passed in the
351602:39:14,648 --> 02:39:18,879hallways of the hotel during that
351702:39:16,389 --> 02:39:23,049weekend so here you have a corroboration
351802:39:18,879 --> 02:39:25,269of you know dozens of people who you
351902:39:23,049 --> 02:39:27,340know were interviewed in conscious and
352002:39:25,270 --> 02:39:28,300
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subconscious state sets and yes I recall
352102:39:27,340 --> 02:39:32,309seeing you there
352202:39:28,299 --> 02:39:34,898so are they all crazy I hardly think so
352302:39:32,309 --> 02:39:37,389you know if one person said well I saw
352402:39:34,898 --> 02:39:38,82920 of you and the other 20 said nah we
352502:39:37,389 --> 02:39:41,318didn't see you but they're all
352602:39:38,829 --> 02:39:44,228collaborating each other stories do you
352702:39:41,318 --> 02:39:46,750know that has a wait with me and and I
352802:39:44,228 --> 02:39:50,170tend to think okay we've got some smoke
352902:39:46,750 --> 02:39:54,280going on here so again you know I don't
353002:39:50,170 --> 02:39:56,139need a piece of the spaceship you know
353102:39:54,280 --> 02:39:58,689there are people who have pieces of a
353202:39:56,139 --> 02:40:01,959spaceship and that would be great but
353302:39:58,689 --> 02:40:03,970there's a tough evidence for me to go
353402:40:01,959 --> 02:40:05,889look at this is a worthwhile thing for
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353502:40:03,969 --> 02:40:08,349you to pursue there's enough evidence
353602:40:05,889 --> 02:40:10,090there it's interesting enough and you
353702:40:08,350 --> 02:40:12,010know please tell me your story because
353802:40:10,090 --> 02:40:13,600it's going to be a lot more interesting
353902:40:12,010 --> 02:40:16,750than hearing about you know taking your
354002:40:13,600 --> 02:40:20,979kids to soccer yeah we don't discuss
354102:40:16,750 --> 02:40:22,549soccer on this show if sport was the
354202:40:20,978 --> 02:40:25,010anti if sports was
354302:40:22,549 --> 02:40:29,659legend soccer would be the Antichrist in
354402:40:25,010 --> 02:40:34,728my opinion no we'll take some heat for
354502:40:29,659 --> 02:40:36,680that one but I had to ask you I'm gonna
354602:40:34,728 --> 02:40:39,920be doing my first conference here
354702:40:36,680 --> 02:40:41,780speaking in concrete Washington October
354802:40:39,920 --> 02:40:44,239at the forest moon paranormal Paracon
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354902:40:41,780 --> 02:40:48,859how much do you enjoy speaking at these
355002:40:44,239 --> 02:40:52,340conferences I'll never have I've never
355102:40:48,859 --> 02:40:56,180been invited and and I have I have
355202:40:52,340 --> 02:40:59,420talked to the well the guy who runs the
355302:40:56,180 --> 02:41:01,180International UFO Congress and I haven't
355402:40:59,420 --> 02:41:05,389gotten a response back from them I
355502:41:01,180 --> 02:41:07,250actually had a major person contact the
355602:41:05,389 --> 02:41:11,420Roswell people they haven't gotten back
355702:41:07,250 --> 02:41:13,068to me and I contact the contact in the
355802:41:11,420 --> 02:41:15,200desert and I know the person who runs it
355902:41:13,068 --> 02:41:17,959and apparently I'm not high-profile
356002:41:15,200 --> 02:41:21,079enough so no response yet but you know I
356102:41:17,959 --> 02:41:25,398still have hopes that maybe Roswell will
356202:41:21,079 --> 02:41:26,689invite because I am the foremost
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02:41:25,398 --> 02:41:29,090authority on wright-patterson Air Force
356402:41:26,689 --> 02:41:31,280Base in UFOs having worked it for 40
356502:41:29,090 --> 02:41:32,898years and from all my research and since
356602:41:31,280 --> 02:41:35,479Roswell is all about wright-patterson
356702:41:32,898 --> 02:41:37,459and UFOs I can't imagine why they
356802:41:35,478 --> 02:41:39,318wouldn't invite me and now I'm a
356902:41:37,459 --> 02:41:42,289published author so again I've got some
357002:41:39,318 --> 02:41:45,619credentials so what are you driving at
357102:41:42,290 --> 02:41:49,640here I'm just saying that it's time to
357202:41:45,620 --> 02:41:51,260start talking on this circuit man all
357302:41:49,639 --> 02:41:53,478right I'd love to do one I just I
357402:41:51,260 --> 02:41:55,159haven't been invited yet so and I don't
357502:41:53,478 --> 02:41:58,599go anywhere that I've not been invited
357602:41:55,159 --> 02:42:01,639that's that's a raised rule number one
357702:41:58,600 --> 02:42:03,470
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well Eric Cooper who runs force boom
357802:42:01,639 --> 02:42:05,119paranormals Paracon says if you can make
357902:42:03,469 --> 02:42:07,989it to Washington State in October you're
358002:42:05,120 --> 02:42:11,740more than welcome to come on out and
358102:42:07,989 --> 02:42:11,739make it happen okay
358202:42:12,079 --> 02:42:17,539well if someone would be so kind as to
358302:42:14,510 --> 02:42:19,489send me you know just a little link to
358402:42:17,540 --> 02:42:22,310those guys and I'd be happy to engage
358502:42:19,489 --> 02:42:24,680them you know I do have a couple of
358602:42:22,309 --> 02:42:26,090things locally going on in October but
358702:42:24,680 --> 02:42:27,680you know I'm not booked for any
358802:42:26,090 --> 02:42:30,049conferences at this point and that might
358902:42:27,680 --> 02:42:32,630be a great starting point well actually
359002:42:30,049 --> 02:42:34,429I think he's booked up for this year but
359102:42:32,629 --> 02:42:36,199he says next year for sure he would have
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359202:42:34,430 --> 02:42:40,100a spot open for you
359302:42:36,200 --> 02:42:43,760well next year just again if he would
359402:42:40,100 --> 02:42:47,689you know my email is it's a UFO I ts a
359502:42:43,760 --> 02:42:49,670UFO it's a UFO at yahoo.com and if you
359602:42:47,689 --> 02:42:53,989want to send me something I'd love to
359702:42:49,670 --> 02:42:55,728Entertainment now plan for it absolutely
359802:42:53,989 --> 02:42:59,629and thank you very much and thank you
359902:42:55,728 --> 02:43:01,519very much sir do you go to a lot of
360002:42:59,629 --> 02:43:04,459conferences though have you attended a
360102:43:01,520 --> 02:43:07,610lot or banquets because apparently from
360202:43:04,459 --> 02:43:11,989what I have read you have these fan
360302:43:07,610 --> 02:43:15,079t-shirts you like to wear yes I started
360402:43:11,989 --> 02:43:17,360going in 2012 I started off the
360502:43:15,079 --> 02:43:21,559International UFO Congress and I really
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360602:43:17,360 --> 02:43:23,270I've been at that one in 12 13 14 and 15
360702:43:21,559 --> 02:43:25,340and then I've been at the last three
360802:43:23,270 --> 02:43:28,729contact in the deserts and besides that
360902:43:25,340 --> 02:43:31,880I've not gone to any others and I've
361002:43:28,728 --> 02:43:34,010been able to make good friends you know
361102:43:31,879 --> 02:43:35,959like Nick Pope and I'd buy beers for
361202:43:34,010 --> 02:43:37,700each other and you know I have dinner
361302:43:35,959 --> 02:43:41,659with the faun Smith and her friends and
361402:43:37,700 --> 02:43:44,960you know other folks yeah I have a great
361502:43:41,659 --> 02:43:47,239picture of Nick Pope of on Smith and
361602:43:44,959 --> 02:43:50,659paul davids three of my endorsers
361702:43:47,239 --> 02:43:54,260holding my book at the international UFO
361802:43:50,659 --> 02:43:56,569congress and it was a photo op it was it
361902:43:54,260 --> 02:43:58,280for marketing purposes and we all sat
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02:43:56,569 --> 02:44:00,829together at the banquet so I've made
362102:43:58,280 --> 02:44:03,590wonderful friends these these people I
362202:44:00,829 --> 02:44:05,180can't even carry their their shoes you
362302:44:03,590 --> 02:44:08,389know they're they're so accomplished but
362402:44:05,180 --> 02:44:10,250they've befriended me and you know
362502:44:08,389 --> 02:44:12,379that's one of the big draws for me to go
362602:44:10,250 --> 02:44:14,930to a conference but it's been limited
362702:44:12,379 --> 02:44:16,250and I've you know these are the big
362802:44:14,930 --> 02:44:18,319conferences those are the probably two
362902:44:16,250 --> 02:44:20,030biggest in the world and so I've crossed
363002:44:18,319 --> 02:44:23,510paths with these people multiple times
363102:44:20,030 --> 02:44:26,329and we just we socialize and and we do
363202:44:23,510 --> 02:44:29,120professional things together and I would
363302:44:26,329 --> 02:44:31,069recommend it for anybody so right now
363402:44:29,120 --> 02:44:33,410
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it's been limited and you know I'm on my
363502:44:31,069 --> 02:44:36,319own nickel and you know I'm not selling
363602:44:33,409 --> 02:44:38,539thousands of books yet so you know I'm
363702:44:36,319 --> 02:44:40,340probably underwater for sure for all the
363802:44:38,540 --> 02:44:42,380research and the investment I've made
363902:44:40,340 --> 02:44:45,409but you know maybe eventually you know I
364002:44:42,379 --> 02:44:46,938go to more especially if I was a speaker
364102:44:45,409 --> 02:44:49,250and they go while we're painting airfare
364202:44:46,939 --> 02:44:51,229we're paying you know for you
364302:44:49,250 --> 02:44:52,790hotel room and you know if they took
364402:44:51,229 --> 02:44:54,379care of that I'd be delighted
364502:44:52,790 --> 02:44:56,120I'd be absolutely delighted because then
364602:44:54,379 --> 02:44:58,129I could afford to do it and I'm retired
364702:44:56,120 --> 02:45:00,310so I don't really have anything that
364802:44:58,129 --> 02:45:03,379would prevent me other than you know I
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364902:45:00,309 --> 02:45:06,829just can't afford to do more than two
365002:45:03,379 --> 02:45:09,199conferences a year Eric has a question
365102:45:06,829 --> 02:45:11,809for you in the speech no radio chat room
365202:45:09,200 --> 02:45:13,670on Spreaker he is asking what do you
365302:45:11,809 --> 02:45:16,039know ray about the United States Air
365402:45:13,670 --> 02:45:20,139Force having made some flying disk craft
365502:45:16,040 --> 02:45:20,140and no I'm not talking about the avrocar
365602:45:20,350 --> 02:45:25,909yeah the only thing I know about is the
365702:45:23,000 --> 02:45:27,799avrocar and there was supposed to be
365802:45:25,909 --> 02:45:30,649another one that the Navy did called the
365902:45:27,799 --> 02:45:33,349flapjack and the Air Force had a big
366002:45:30,649 --> 02:45:35,690hand in it but it was Navy driven and it
366102:45:33,350 --> 02:45:37,399looks like a gigantic disc and it's got
366202:45:35,690 --> 02:45:39,739a tail and and I've actually seen a
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366302:45:37,399 --> 02:45:41,629video of this thing flying and it was on
366402:45:39,739 --> 02:45:44,360a documentary so it's not a secret thing
366502:45:41,629 --> 02:45:47,359so uh you know I think they did others
366602:45:44,360 --> 02:45:49,040but but you know the avrocar was a
366702:45:47,360 --> 02:45:51,470different kind of propulsion system you
366802:45:49,040 --> 02:45:54,050know it was a vertical takeoff where you
366902:45:51,469 --> 02:45:56,389know the other one was more of a jet
367002:45:54,049 --> 02:45:58,219engine how they got it launched I don't
367102:45:56,389 --> 02:46:00,739know a lot of times they dropped these
367202:45:58,219 --> 02:46:02,479things from a carrier bird and then like
367302:46:00,739 --> 02:46:05,989you know missile testing or you know the
367402:46:02,479 --> 02:46:08,479the f-15 or the x-15 where you know they
367502:46:05,989 --> 02:46:10,729drop it from the underbelly but yeah
367602:46:08,479 --> 02:46:11,659there's I saw another documentary I know
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02:46:10,729 --> 02:46:17,479nothing about it
367802:46:11,659 --> 02:46:20,239other than the visual I'm not sure that
367902:46:17,479 --> 02:46:23,289what they're actually hiding or what
368002:46:20,239 --> 02:46:27,229they are doing I want to find out I
368102:46:23,290 --> 02:46:28,790definitely want to find out I can't
368202:46:27,229 --> 02:46:30,739imagine that we have a disc that
368302:46:28,790 --> 02:46:32,660operates like what we see in the sky and
368402:46:30,739 --> 02:46:35,360that we claim is extraterrestrial
368502:46:32,659 --> 02:46:37,430I was with Air Force Research Lab for
368602:46:35,360 --> 02:46:39,730nearly 40 years and yeah you don't get
368702:46:37,430 --> 02:46:42,380to see everything but you know what I
368802:46:39,729 --> 02:46:45,469can't imagine we've got a distant fly
368902:46:42,379 --> 02:46:48,049surround like one of arrows well there
369002:46:45,469 --> 02:46:52,609is rumor that the tr-3b the big black
369102:46:48,049 --> 02:46:59,149
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triangle is ours what do you think about
369202:46:52,610 --> 02:47:01,489that prove it to me I just I can't see
369302:46:59,149 --> 02:47:02,478it I just I just don't think we're there
369402:47:01,489 --> 02:47:04,520yet
369502:47:02,478 --> 02:47:10,099you know regardless of what been rich
369602:47:04,520 --> 02:47:11,748has been rich bouncing I got that's a
369702:47:10,100 --> 02:47:14,300potent name to bring up or especially
369802:47:11,748 --> 02:47:16,430around these parts considering that that
369902:47:14,299 --> 02:47:18,408you know some of the statements he made
370002:47:16,430 --> 02:47:20,658and you know whether or not people
370102:47:18,408 --> 02:47:22,340believe it's a hoax or not it's pretty
370202:47:20,658 --> 02:47:24,408incredible that someone of that stature
370302:47:22,340 --> 02:47:28,818would be able to say that unless he was
370402:47:24,408 --> 02:47:30,859playing the ultimate spy mind trick well
370502:47:28,818 --> 02:47:34,879there's actually a different dissection
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370602:47:30,859 --> 02:47:37,399of that event and one that I read makes
370702:47:34,879 --> 02:47:39,799it perfectly plausible that he was
370802:47:37,398 --> 02:47:41,988quoted out of context and when he said
370902:47:39,799 --> 02:47:44,988we know we have the technology to go to
371002:47:41,988 --> 02:47:47,988the Stars it didn't mean that we have an
371102:47:44,988 --> 02:47:51,680extraterrestrial like craft do it in and
371202:47:47,988 --> 02:47:55,670there's actually somebody found you know
371302:47:51,680 --> 02:47:58,039more information on that and at a speech
371402:47:55,670 --> 02:47:59,270she gave that helped correct that now
371502:47:58,039 --> 02:48:03,529maybe he was just covering his tracks
371602:47:59,270 --> 02:48:06,170but it leads one to believe that we've
371702:48:03,529 --> 02:48:08,539put more meaning into his statement than
371802:48:06,170 --> 02:48:11,270what was really meant at the time so you
371902:48:08,539 --> 02:48:14,329know again I haven't researched it that
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372002:48:11,270 --> 02:48:17,199deeply but the jury is still out on what
372102:48:14,328 --> 02:48:17,199he meant by that statement
372202:48:18,158 --> 02:48:23,748so the curiosity still roams around area
372302:48:21,228 --> 02:48:26,84051 for you then or wright-patt which
372402:48:23,748 --> 02:48:28,578would be much much absolutely absolutely
372502:48:26,840 --> 02:48:30,318and you know I can get on wright-patt
372602:48:28,578 --> 02:48:31,969pretty much any time until somebody
372702:48:30,318 --> 02:48:35,389listened to this show and they revoked
372802:48:31,969 --> 02:48:39,438my pass and they they squashed my they
372902:48:35,389 --> 02:48:41,478squashed my pension but but you know
373002:48:39,439 --> 02:48:42,828they bring birds out here every once in
373102:48:41,478 --> 02:48:44,778a while you know because the program
373202:48:42,828 --> 02:48:46,129offices are out here and they're not
373302:48:44,779 --> 02:48:47,960that you know they're no longer
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02:48:46,129 --> 02:48:49,998classified but you know we see our share
373502:48:47,959 --> 02:48:51,828of of birds that were formerly
373602:48:49,998 --> 02:48:54,199classified here so it wouldn't be
373702:48:51,828 --> 02:48:56,538surprising that you know someday soon
373802:48:54,199 --> 02:48:58,130you know this tr3 or whatever you
373902:48:56,539 --> 02:49:00,140mentioned you know if it makes its way
374002:48:58,129 --> 02:49:02,228to the runway you'll be the second
374102:49:00,139 --> 02:49:04,760person to know Dave I promise you that I
374202:49:02,228 --> 02:49:11,148hope so I'm gonna hold you up on that
374302:49:04,760 --> 02:49:14,059hey you're from Ohio and one thing that
374402:49:11,148 --> 02:49:16,010I have noticed in this last year ray is
374502:49:14,059 --> 02:49:21,319how many
374602:49:16,011 --> 02:49:24,881guests of mine actually are from Ohio
374702:49:21,319 --> 02:49:29,569and how much weird and strange
374802:49:24,880 --> 02:49:33,161
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happenings happen in Ohio what is it
374902:49:29,569 --> 02:49:36,110about that that Ohio West Virginia
375002:49:33,161 --> 02:49:38,630western Pennsylvania area it's almost
375102:49:36,110 --> 02:49:41,051like a triangle and I don't mean to use
375202:49:38,630 --> 02:49:44,779that in cliche but what is it about that
375302:49:41,050 --> 02:49:47,680area that just has a lot of strange
375402:49:44,780 --> 02:49:50,271occurrences happening
375502:49:47,681 --> 02:49:54,140well one maybe we're just better
375602:49:50,271 --> 02:49:55,521reporters so it's it's not is just we're
375702:49:54,140 --> 02:49:57,529better telling you know the story in
375802:49:55,521 --> 02:49:59,721capturing the facts but you know the
375902:49:57,530 --> 02:50:03,891Ohio Valley especially the southern part
376002:49:59,720 --> 02:50:07,011of the state was home for you know a
376102:50:03,890 --> 02:50:09,710couple thousand years apparently to a
376202:50:07,011 --> 02:50:11,569culture that was named the Edina culture
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376302:50:09,710 --> 02:50:14,090and they named it that way after you
376402:50:11,569 --> 02:50:16,880know they found a giant mountain Adina's
376502:50:14,091 --> 02:50:21,979were mound builders and in my book I
376602:50:16,880 --> 02:50:25,251actually expose an Edina mound that few
376702:50:21,979 --> 02:50:26,899people recognize what it was because it
376802:50:25,251 --> 02:50:28,640was hidden behind a building and now the
376902:50:26,899 --> 02:50:31,640building's torn down and there's a
377002:50:28,640 --> 02:50:33,979photograph of it in my book and it's
377102:50:31,640 --> 02:50:36,020attributed to the Edina culture but in
377202:50:33,979 --> 02:50:37,790Chillicothe Ohio which has one of the
377302:50:36,021 --> 02:50:40,221biggest mounds apparently there was a
377402:50:37,790 --> 02:50:43,161mansion built there and it was nicknamed
377502:50:40,220 --> 02:50:45,819Edina and so when they discovered the
377602:50:43,161 --> 02:50:49,880mounds there the name of the building
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377702:50:45,819 --> 02:50:51,591somehow got tagged onto it so Ohio had
377802:50:49,880 --> 02:50:54,501you know mound builders in a serpent
377902:50:51,591 --> 02:50:57,800mound is is in Ohio a lot of those kind
378002:50:54,501 --> 02:51:00,229of animal effigy mounds are here the the
378102:50:57,800 --> 02:51:03,740the miamisburg mound is here and it's
378202:51:00,229 --> 02:51:09,050huge so you know you had a st. in
378302:51:03,740 --> 02:51:11,740culture here and any place that had a
378402:51:09,050 --> 02:51:16,640high concentration of ancient cultures
378502:51:11,740 --> 02:51:19,130seems to be a focal point for these
378602:51:16,640 --> 02:51:20,300sightings for example you know that
378702:51:19,130 --> 02:51:22,189happened in there was only had the
378802:51:20,300 --> 02:51:26,149Phoenix lights and there was you know
378902:51:22,190 --> 02:51:30,319you cannot swing a cactus in the Phoenix
379002:51:26,149 --> 02:51:32,511area without hitting a documented
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02:51:30,319 --> 02:51:34,729undocumented archaeological site you
379202:51:32,511 --> 02:51:37,390know they have like Casa Grande there
379302:51:34,729 --> 02:51:41,180which is just a few miles outside of
379402:51:37,390 --> 02:51:43,340Phoenix area but everywhere in that area
379502:51:41,181 --> 02:51:45,500and where did the spaceship show up it
379602:51:43,340 --> 02:51:47,780showed up right over the Phoenix Airport
379702:51:45,500 --> 02:51:52,670the centroid of of these ancient
379802:51:47,780 --> 02:51:55,250cultures so it may have something to do
379902:51:52,670 --> 02:51:57,229with the fact where these cultures were
380002:51:55,250 --> 02:51:58,431upstate New York look where the culture
380102:51:57,229 --> 02:52:00,470is where they lived and where all the
380202:51:58,431 --> 02:52:02,420artifacts were and then and you looked
380302:52:00,470 --> 02:52:04,729about the Hudson Valley sightings damn
380402:52:02,420 --> 02:52:07,521right over this gigantic you know
380502:52:04,729 --> 02:52:08,479
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ancient culture so I think there's a
380602:52:07,521 --> 02:52:11,391tie-in there
380702:52:08,479 --> 02:52:14,329I haven't investigated it but it really
380802:52:11,390 --> 02:52:17,149looks solid to me in places where you
380902:52:14,329 --> 02:52:19,340know there weren't those kind of
381002:52:17,149 --> 02:52:21,850concentrations you don't get a lot of
381102:52:19,340 --> 02:52:24,110reports so maybe maybe it's the Ohio
381202:52:21,851 --> 02:52:28,310connection to the Edina culture that's
381302:52:24,110 --> 02:52:30,530that's responsible point we deal a lot
381402:52:28,310 --> 02:52:32,629with cryptids here and the amount of
381502:52:30,530 --> 02:52:35,120cryptids that have been weird strange
381602:52:32,629 --> 02:52:38,209creatures that have shown up in that
381702:52:35,120 --> 02:52:44,090Triangle area from Mothman to the
381802:52:38,209 --> 02:52:45,949frogmen to Bigfoot - aliens - absolutely
381902:52:44,090 --> 02:52:48,470anything it just makes me scratch my
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382002:52:45,950 --> 02:52:52,311hand Oh what is in the air or the water
382102:52:48,470 --> 02:52:55,399in that area because I I swear at least
382202:52:52,310 --> 02:52:57,500once - twice every two weeks I end up
382302:52:55,399 --> 02:53:01,670not even knowing where the people are
382402:52:57,500 --> 02:53:04,931from that I find out well of course your
382502:53:01,670 --> 02:53:04,931story is strange you're from Ohio
382602:53:06,590 --> 02:53:14,030it is absolutely insane how much weird
382702:53:11,450 --> 02:53:16,931and odd is happening in your state my
382802:53:14,030 --> 02:53:19,311friend you should get oh wow
382902:53:16,931 --> 02:53:21,890I'm originally from Detroit and I
383002:53:19,310 --> 02:53:24,800migrated here after I graduated in 75
383102:53:21,890 --> 02:53:27,020but you know keep in mind who where was
383202:53:24,800 --> 02:53:30,500the first person first human being to
383302:53:27,021 --> 02:53:32,989set foot on the moon you some Ohio of
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383402:53:30,500 --> 02:53:37,670course of course
383502:53:32,989 --> 02:53:42,640everybody's from a big hill it continues
383602:53:37,670 --> 02:53:45,010the the saga continues no kidding no
383702:53:42,640 --> 02:53:47,569kidding
383802:53:45,010 --> 02:53:49,399let's talk about the whole field of
383902:53:47,569 --> 02:53:52,039ufology here for a second and
384002:53:49,399 --> 02:53:54,619researchers where do you think this
384102:53:52,040 --> 02:53:57,980needs to go do you think it all lands on
384202:53:54,620 --> 02:54:01,460the heels of John Podesta and Hillary
384302:53:57,979 --> 02:54:03,799Clinton talking about disclosure or do
384402:54:01,459 --> 02:54:05,539you think that we need to do a heck of a
384502:54:03,799 --> 02:54:07,969lot more research before we start
384602:54:05,540 --> 02:54:10,520whistleblowing on what we actually know
384702:54:07,969 --> 02:54:15,379about the field of ufology here in North
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02:54:10,520 --> 02:54:17,000America presidents do not have the need
384902:54:15,379 --> 02:54:18,709to know so even though they hold the
385002:54:17,000 --> 02:54:20,540highest clearance as possible and and
385102:54:18,709 --> 02:54:23,899and in fact they do not hold the highest
385202:54:20,540 --> 02:54:26,450clearance as possible Hillary Clinton's
385302:54:23,899 --> 02:54:30,049husband tried to do this Reagan tried to
385402:54:26,450 --> 02:54:32,000get it Carter tried to do it Ford try to
385502:54:30,049 --> 02:54:34,670do it Ford President Ford is the only
385602:54:32,000 --> 02:54:37,100person who was able to get a
385702:54:34,670 --> 02:54:40,430congressional hearing on UFOs when he
385802:54:37,100 --> 02:54:42,950was the representative of Michigan so
385902:54:40,430 --> 02:54:46,489that's not going to happen it's a false
386002:54:42,950 --> 02:54:49,430promise so it's going to be up to the
386102:54:46,489 --> 02:54:51,649UFO investigators and hopefully somebody
386202:54:49,430 --> 02:54:53,600
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who wants to give a deathbed confession
386302:54:51,649 --> 02:54:55,699and we get so much information that way
386402:54:53,600 --> 02:54:58,059and I think it's valid they're gonna say
386502:54:55,700 --> 02:55:01,670you know I need to tell you this and
386602:54:58,059 --> 02:55:03,920look in the top drawer and and there
386702:55:01,670 --> 02:55:06,440will be a piece of proof you know rather
386802:55:03,920 --> 02:55:08,989than evidence the government is not
386902:55:06,440 --> 02:55:11,030going to tell us unless it suits their
387002:55:08,989 --> 02:55:12,289needs and I can't imagine what their
387102:55:11,030 --> 02:55:14,720need is because you know think about
387202:55:12,290 --> 02:55:16,520this you're the US Air Force and I love
387302:55:14,719 --> 02:55:18,139those guys to death I would do my entire
387402:55:16,520 --> 02:55:19,870career over again
387502:55:18,139 --> 02:55:22,459in a heartbeat I work with the best
387602:55:19,870 --> 02:55:24,740people on the planet the smartest the
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387702:55:22,459 --> 02:55:26,779sharpest but they had a job that they
387802:55:24,739 --> 02:55:29,899couldn't do and I was to keep the skies
387902:55:26,780 --> 02:55:32,030safe from everybody including the aliens
388002:55:29,899 --> 02:55:34,879and they did a good job for everybody
388102:55:32,030 --> 02:55:36,530else but this is a phenomena that came
388202:55:34,879 --> 02:55:39,229and went like lightning you know never
388302:55:36,530 --> 02:55:41,840gave you any hint that they were going
388402:55:39,229 --> 02:55:44,719to show up and there's no defense or
388502:55:41,840 --> 02:55:47,360offense against it they can disable all
388602:55:44,719 --> 02:55:50,659of our systems and they do it it will so
388702:55:47,360 --> 02:55:52,489now you've got a job and the public does
388802:55:50,659 --> 02:55:54,829nothing but snippets your heels all day
388902:55:52,489 --> 02:55:56,719that press hates you you know and you
389002:55:54,829 --> 02:55:57,529have this tough job what are you going
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389102:55:56,719 --> 02:55:58,760to do
389202:55:57,529 --> 02:55:59,930you're going to get rid of it you're
389302:55:58,760 --> 02:56:02,148going to deep-six it you're going to end
389402:55:59,930 --> 02:56:04,189your your research and you're going to
389502:56:02,148 --> 02:56:08,449just hope it never rears its ugly head
389602:56:04,189 --> 02:56:10,880again so there is absolutely no
389702:56:08,450 --> 02:56:14,630motivation whatsoever for any government
389802:56:10,879 --> 02:56:16,188agency to ever tell us anything they
389902:56:14,629 --> 02:56:18,079know about it that's going to send more
390002:56:16,189 --> 02:56:20,960light than the researchers have it's
390102:56:18,079 --> 02:56:22,969just not going to happen so it has to be
390202:56:20,959 --> 02:56:24,978through deathbed confessions or you know
390302:56:22,969 --> 02:56:27,738some disgruntled employee who got fired
390402:56:24,978 --> 02:56:30,289of who knows what or you know the the
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02:56:27,738 --> 02:56:32,988researchers like myself just stumbling
390602:56:30,290 --> 02:56:34,970upon something that goes oh my god look
390702:56:32,988 --> 02:56:37,609at this you know what do you think about
390802:56:34,969 --> 02:56:39,679this and then suddenly you know that
390902:56:37,609 --> 02:56:41,809evidence is pushing more towards proof
391002:56:39,680 --> 02:56:43,939like you know Gerald Anderson than those
391102:56:41,809 --> 02:56:46,850boys finding stuff on the plane to Santa
391202:56:43,939 --> 02:56:48,738Goosen getting a tested now maybe the
391302:56:46,850 --> 02:56:51,770people I interview are going to get
391402:56:48,738 --> 02:56:55,340their DNA tested and say wow look at
391502:56:51,770 --> 02:56:59,140this I think that's the way it's gonna
391602:56:55,340 --> 02:57:01,219have to go are you surprised
391702:56:59,139 --> 02:57:04,670sorry for cutting you off there but are
391802:57:01,219 --> 02:57:08,840you surprised that John Podesta has had
391902:57:04,670 --> 02:57:09,790
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as much play as he has in regards to
392002:57:08,840 --> 02:57:13,010this topic
392102:57:09,790 --> 02:57:15,020because the telling tale for me on this
392202:57:13,010 --> 02:57:19,219and I'm an outsider here in Canada right
392302:57:15,020 --> 02:57:21,738is how the media has really dropped the
392402:57:19,219 --> 02:57:23,420ball on that whole subject you're
392502:57:21,738 --> 02:57:25,398talking about and I've said this many
392602:57:23,420 --> 02:57:27,829times on this show you're talking about
392702:57:25,398 --> 02:57:31,849the next biggest story to the second
392802:57:27,829 --> 02:57:34,309coming of Jesus Christ and the media in
392902:57:31,850 --> 02:57:37,130the mainstream doesn't even seem
393002:57:34,309 --> 02:57:39,978concerned they don't Eve I mean yes they
393102:57:37,129 --> 02:57:43,549went on it on about it back in May for
393202:57:39,978 --> 02:57:45,619about a week or two but in reality this
393302:57:43,549 --> 02:57:48,858is a topic that should be hammered home
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393402:57:45,620 --> 02:57:54,050every night until there is answers and
393502:57:48,859 --> 02:57:56,120yet nothing well first of all I'm going
393602:57:54,049 --> 02:57:58,849to slam the mainstream media and the
393702:57:56,120 --> 02:58:01,010hate mail is kind of just flow they're
393802:57:58,850 --> 02:58:03,020ignorant and and I don't mean they're
393902:58:01,010 --> 02:58:04,909stupid I mean they're ignorant of the
394002:58:03,020 --> 02:58:07,790topic and I'll give you a great example
394102:58:04,909 --> 02:58:10,271that it's very relevant here and it's
394202:58:07,790 --> 02:58:12,431just symptomatic of what we see
394302:58:10,271 --> 02:58:13,811there was a video that came out that
394402:58:12,431 --> 02:58:16,569said oh there's this triangular shape
394502:58:13,810 --> 02:58:19,751thing over at an Air Force Base and was
394602:58:16,569 --> 02:58:21,610on this you know sketchy website and
394702:58:19,751 --> 02:58:22,989everyone said all they're just posting
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394802:58:21,610 --> 02:58:26,101that they made it up and because people
394902:58:22,989 --> 02:58:28,810are you know getting rich off of it and
395002:58:26,101 --> 02:58:31,961what happened immediately the Dayton
395102:58:28,810 --> 02:58:35,050Daily News wrote an article by one of
395202:58:31,960 --> 02:58:37,510their top guys Jim Otte he's a big deal
395302:58:35,050 --> 02:58:39,430here with some other guy that I don't
395402:58:37,511 --> 02:58:40,841know and what they did is they got some
395502:58:39,431 --> 02:58:43,421guy who spent his entire day in the
395602:58:40,841 --> 02:58:46,720museum and surprisingly enough the Ohio
395702:58:43,421 --> 02:58:49,181MUFON director to quote and say it's
395802:58:46,720 --> 02:58:51,369nothing it's nothing well the two people
395902:58:49,181 --> 02:58:53,171they quoted I discovered didn't do any
396002:58:51,370 --> 02:58:56,561investigation it was surprised to me for
396102:58:53,171 --> 02:58:57,790a MUFON guy to go on record and say well
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02:58:56,560 --> 02:59:00,369this is this is crap
396302:58:57,790 --> 02:59:04,301and I find out that they didn't
396402:59:00,370 --> 02:59:05,320investigate it so I tried contacting the
396502:59:04,300 --> 02:59:08,409authors of the article well of course
396602:59:05,319 --> 02:59:11,319they won't contact me I contacted John
396702:59:08,409 --> 02:59:13,989Harrison of MUFON who wants the place he
396802:59:11,319 --> 02:59:16,390got Mark Dantonio to give me an
396902:59:13,989 --> 02:59:18,159explanation of what the word was going
397002:59:16,390 --> 02:59:21,220around MUFON and said well you know
397102:59:18,159 --> 02:59:23,501maybe our Ohio guy just got a whole you
397202:59:21,220 --> 02:59:24,729know our early assessment and didn't
397302:59:23,501 --> 02:59:27,220want to be bothered with it because it
397402:59:24,729 --> 02:59:28,689appeared to him to be a hoax well what
397502:59:27,220 --> 02:59:30,341they didn't know and what I didn't
397602:59:28,690 --> 02:59:34,870
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reveal at the time that it was talking
397702:59:30,341 --> 02:59:38,381to MUFON is I saw this thing and I need
397802:59:34,870 --> 02:59:41,079a witness who saw this thing and I was
397902:59:38,380 --> 02:59:42,819at my son's condo and I said look at
398002:59:41,079 --> 02:59:44,079that and they went oh what is that night
398102:59:42,819 --> 02:59:46,270and it looked like a pair of oil but
398202:59:44,079 --> 02:59:48,069very heavy cloudy day but this thing was
398302:59:46,271 --> 02:59:49,391sitting right over wright-patterson I
398402:59:48,069 --> 02:59:51,431know because I was like a quarter-mile
398502:59:49,390 --> 02:59:53,710away and I've been working here for 40
398602:59:51,431 --> 02:59:55,870years and I was literally outside the
398702:59:53,710 --> 02:59:56,590gate at my son's condominium looking at
398802:59:55,870 --> 02:59:59,471this thing going
398902:59:56,591 --> 03:00:00,970oh well that's got to be an aerostat boy
399002:59:59,470 --> 03:00:03,279we launched things in a balloon and
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399103:00:00,970 --> 03:00:05,140we've got it tied to a string and you
399203:00:03,280 --> 03:00:08,921know we've got cameras and sensors up
399303:00:05,140 --> 03:00:10,569there so I saw this thing you know I'm
399403:00:08,921 --> 03:00:12,341not saying it's the exact same thing but
399503:00:10,569 --> 03:00:14,529I saw what could have been the same
399603:00:12,341 --> 03:00:16,300thing and thinking well it's a research
399703:00:14,530 --> 03:00:19,181thing and it's a balloon you know to me
399803:00:16,300 --> 03:00:21,039was no big deal I didn't even know the
399903:00:19,181 --> 03:00:23,110story existed then BAM I find out about
400003:00:21,040 --> 03:00:24,040the story I find about you know the
400103:00:23,110 --> 03:00:27,760video
400203:00:24,040 --> 03:00:30,700but the media the media here in Dayton
400303:00:27,760 --> 03:00:33,040who pooted they got these appeal to
400403:00:30,700 --> 03:00:34,960Authority Talking Heads who didn't do an
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400503:00:33,040 --> 03:00:38,440investigation and immediately try to
400603:00:34,959 --> 03:00:40,089close down so that is just symptomatic
400703:00:38,440 --> 03:00:42,040of what we find with all these other
400803:00:40,090 --> 03:00:43,540people because they don't know anything
400903:00:42,040 --> 03:00:45,700about the topic the boss says write a
401003:00:43,540 --> 03:00:48,070story they don't do any research they
401103:00:45,700 --> 03:00:51,521don't do any investigation and what are
401203:00:48,069 --> 03:00:53,649they told to do close it down and that's
401303:00:51,521 --> 03:00:55,390what you find and thank God for the
401403:00:53,649 --> 03:00:57,420Internet because we have everyone else
401503:00:55,389 --> 03:00:59,889out there like yourself doing these
401603:00:57,420 --> 03:01:02,290radio cast and you know who aren't
401703:00:59,889 --> 03:01:05,319really you know paid by CBS and NBC
401803:01:02,290 --> 03:01:09,040where we can get the real facts out and
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03:01:05,319 --> 03:01:10,840if you look at you know the local
402003:01:09,040 --> 03:01:13,090newspapers and national newspapers
402103:01:10,840 --> 03:01:16,960especially if you're somebody like me
402203:01:13,090 --> 03:01:20,860who saw the thing in the air you know
402303:01:16,959 --> 03:01:23,079that the stories are bullcrap so you
402403:01:20,860 --> 03:01:25,630know all I can say is it you know what I
402503:01:23,079 --> 03:01:28,000saw here locally is just symptomatic of
402603:01:25,629 --> 03:01:30,459what you see within the national news so
402703:01:28,000 --> 03:01:32,950we cannot depend upon them to tell us
402803:01:30,459 --> 03:01:36,639the truth throw down two Bs flag don't
402903:01:32,950 --> 03:01:39,790even read the stuff they publish that
403003:01:36,639 --> 03:01:42,340was powerful one quick comment and
403103:01:39,790 --> 03:01:44,110question here from Eric Markham in the
403203:01:42,340 --> 03:01:47,500spaced-out radio chat room on Spreaker
403303:01:44,110 --> 03:01:49,600
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he is asking I wonder if the reason the
403403:01:47,500 --> 03:01:52,030mainstream media started talking or
403503:01:49,600 --> 03:01:54,430taking UFO news lately was because of
403603:01:52,030 --> 03:01:57,760the way they had the rug pulled out from
403703:01:54,430 --> 03:02:02,050under them like Roswell and the 52 DC
403803:01:57,760 --> 03:02:03,250flap what is your opinion on that you
403903:02:02,049 --> 03:02:09,969mean they're doing this in retribution
404003:02:03,250 --> 03:02:13,450yes no no no I don't think so
404103:02:09,969 --> 03:02:15,279you need publicity well I think any
404203:02:13,450 --> 03:02:17,079recent publicity you know there's still
404303:02:15,280 --> 03:02:20,050the giggle factor and they always
404403:02:17,079 --> 03:02:22,510preface it with you know this guy isn't
404503:02:20,049 --> 03:02:25,920crazy but he might be and then you know
404603:02:22,510 --> 03:02:28,079they talk about the video and and I
404703:02:25,920 --> 03:02:30,460still don't think they do it justice
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404803:02:28,079 --> 03:02:32,379again I think they're ignorant of the
404903:02:30,459 --> 03:02:34,329topic I think they're still you know
405003:02:32,379 --> 03:02:36,329some forces at work here that want to
405103:02:34,329 --> 03:02:37,959squash it you know if you talk to
405203:02:36,329 --> 03:02:40,569Angelina Joyner
405303:02:37,959 --> 03:02:42,219who did all the Stevensville stuff they
405403:02:40,569 --> 03:02:44,260were selling newspapers they had the
405503:02:42,219 --> 03:02:46,090world descending on them and they get
405603:02:44,260 --> 03:02:47,590the publicity could have been better for
405703:02:46,090 --> 03:02:49,930her newspaper you know whatever editor
405803:02:47,590 --> 03:02:52,299told her after a visit from some guys in
405903:02:49,930 --> 03:02:53,440dark suits drop the story we're pushing
406003:02:52,299 --> 03:02:55,629you on to something else
406103:02:53,440 --> 03:02:57,940you know they got visitors from who
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406203:02:55,629 --> 03:03:00,069knows where and and Joyner tells the
406303:02:57,940 --> 03:03:01,420world yeah my boss was told that we're
406403:03:00,069 --> 03:03:04,059shutting this story down and I shut it
406503:03:01,420 --> 03:03:06,819down so you know who knows what else is
406603:03:04,059 --> 03:03:09,609going on behind that curtain I don't but
406703:03:06,819 --> 03:03:10,899you know I can make a guess we got about
406803:03:09,610 --> 03:03:11,409three minutes with you laughter your
406903:03:10,899 --> 03:03:15,969boss
407003:03:11,409 --> 03:03:17,860what's up next for Ray Szymanski I am
407103:03:15,969 --> 03:03:20,379going to be running the air force
407203:03:17,860 --> 03:03:23,430marathon on the 17th the two prior days
407303:03:20,379 --> 03:03:23,429I am going to be