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Page 1: Energy sources for the 21th century - unistra.fresc.u-strasbg.fr/docs/2009/talks/Tuesday/Round-Table-Energy/Sylvai… · Sodium technology →is safety compatible with 3000 reactors

1S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Energy sources for the 21th century

Sylvain DavidCNRS

Nuclear Physics Institut, Orsay, France

[email protected]

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2S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

• Provide to the world with the energy it needs

• Limit the emission of green-house gas

Two challenges for the 21st century

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3S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

A few words about the different ways to count energy

Different units used

- Physics : [Energy] = Joule (J) ; [Power] = Watt (W) = J/s elementary chemical process eV = 1.6 10-19Jelementary nuclear process MeV = 1 million d’eV

- individualElectricity [Energy] = kWh = 1000 * 3600 = 3.6 MJTransport [Energy] = liter of fuel / 100 km, km / gallon

[Power] = Horsepower = 735 W- Industry

Electricity [Energy] = TWh, TWh/an, …Oil [Energy] = « Barrel »

- Food[Energy] = calorie = 4.18 J ou 1 Calorie = 4180 J (!?)

- Economy[Energy] = toe Ton oil equivalent

- Explosive[Energie] = kilos, 1 ton of TNT = 4,18 109 J

- ……………

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4S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

The question of primary energy, final energy, and a new (and absurd) definition of the ton oil equivalent

turbin

33 Jélectrical

motor

30 Jmecanical

boiler

80 Jthermal

100 Jthermal

100 Jthermal

heatingOil, gas, wood

Transportoil

ElectricityNuclear, coal

100 Jthermal

Primaryelectricity

100/300 = 33%

Final « physics »electricity :

33/143 = 23%

Final « économist »electricity :

33/230 = 14%

buying buying

buying

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5S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Final electricity

nuclear : 80 %

Total primary energy

nuclear : 39%

Total final energy « physicist »

nuclear : 26 %

Total final energy « economist »

nuclear : 17%

Nuclear in France

Just choose the one which confirms what you want to prove…

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6S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

The official “ton oil equivalent”1 toe = 42 GJ

But for electricity…

Before 2002 : a logical definition : the mass of oil one should be use to produce 1 MWh of electricity Reference efficiency of the oil plant = 38,7%1 MWh = 3,6 109 Jelec = 3,6 109 / 0,387 Jth = 9,3 109 Jth = 0,22 toe

Since 2002 : an absurd definition1 MWh of electricity correspond to a certain quantity of primary energy, depending on the source (efficiency), and 1 MWh = Eprimary / 42GJThis leads to :Gas, coal 1 MWh = 0,17 – 0,29 toeNuclear 1 MWh = 0,26 toeSolar, wind 1 MWh = 0,086 toeGeothermal 1 MWh = 0,86 toe

The same quantity of electricity does not correspond anymore to the same quantity of oil, this is

not a “ton oil equivalent”

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7S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Contexte énergétique mondial

560

1300

1,6

1,1

905 120011000,66

0,5

0,6

7,8

330=

Population 2005 (Mhab)

Energy consumption toe/y/p toe/y/p

195=

600=280=

200=

3,53,4

4,5

2,6

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8S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Contexte énergétique mondial

toe2000

10

30

20

Total2050

≈ 20 GTePTotal2050

≈ 20 GTePtoe

2050

energy

20006,5 Gh

5

10

20509 Gh

population

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9S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Energy, environment and human health, an old story

today

-50 y

-5000 y

planet

Big cities(London big smog 1952)

caverna Biomass

Coal

CoalOilGas

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10S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Reduce the GHG emission from 6,5C/y to 3GtC/y in 40 years

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

India China France Germ. Denm. USA

Emission tC/y/p

GHG limit emission~300 kg/y/c

(2050)

GreenHouse Gas Emission

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11S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

0

5

10

15

20

25

30

2000 2050

Gto

e/y

GHG / 2

Nuclear

Energy sources for the future

Energy efficiencyand savings

Orders of magnitude

Coal + CO2 storage

Renew.

Baseline scenario

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12S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Réf: PR Bauquis – Total Prof. Associés

Uncertainties concerning oil and gas reserves in the coming decades

Peak before 2050 for oil and gas, more reserves for coal

Fossile fuel

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13S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

2COM

fuel (kg/toe)coal ~4 400oil 2 900gas 2 290

But

global warming potential 1 CH4 = 25 CO2

4% of CH4 leakage during extraction is sufficient to double the GHG emission of natural gas in “CO2 equivalent”

Emission of gas and coal are equivalent ~4000 kg.eq. CO2 / toe

Fossile fuels and greean-house gas emission

Combustion : gas produces twice less CO2 than coal, for the same energy production

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14S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Pour la science

Fossile fuel

CO2 storage : centralised use (electricity, heat?)

Large R&D needs, cost, acceptabilityOrder of magnitude to reach : 15 Gt CO2 / year !!A way to make us accept the present coal revival ?

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15S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

SunEnergy produced by fusion p+p

Nuclear binding energy

Other primary sources

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16S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Primary lighton earth 250 W/m2

Photovoltaïc 25 W/m2

Heating pannels 50 W/m2

Wind 10 W/m2

Biomass 1 W/m2

Hydropower 5-25 W/m2

Diluted = large surface needed

intermittent

Biomass : very low efficiency, but stored energy !Hydropower and PV ~ same surface needed, but costs are ≠, PV intermittentWind : intermittent, large surface needed, but small surface « on ground »

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17S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Parc Eolien Watenfall ; Année 2008 Puissance Journalière Moyenne

0,0

1000,0

2000,0

3000,0

4000,0

5000,0

6000,0

7000,0

8000,0

9000,0

10000,0

1 16 31 46 61 76 91 106

121

136

151

166

181

196

211

226

241

256

271

286

301

316

331

346

361

N° du Jour

Puis

sanc

e (M

W)

P Moyenne P Installée

Wind and Photovoltaic : how to manage intermittence ?• New network : small and intermittent production units• Coupled with flexible unit : gas&coal (non satisfactory)• hydropower (limited)

• Really efficient if large electricity storage capacities are available• Chemical storage : limited (100 Wh/kg) but efficient for transport

• Car consumption 10-20 kWh/100km, 200 kg battery, auton. 250 km• Double hydroelectric plants : very effective• Hydrogen H2O → H2 + ½ O2 + 120 MJ storage (hydrolyse, HT cracking)

• re-use of energy : H2 + ½ O2 → H2O • But : efficiency of the complete chain very low• But : economic way to use H2 : Coal-to-Liquid process !

Solarwind electricity H2

Conditionningtransport electricity motor

100 15 8 6 3 2,5

Fuel cell orcombustion

2,5% to be compared to 10% for electric car, or 0,2% for biofuels

daily production of windmills in

germaby (2007)

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18S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Fission nuclear energy16% of the world electricity production

If nuclear power must play a role in the future• ≈ 50% of electricity• ≈ 3000 reactors in the world• Major challenge : change scale

• Uranium reserve• Optimize the waste management• World safety culture• others application : heat, H2

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19S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Uranium reservesGeneration 2&3 reactors use essentially 235U as fissile material

235U = 0,7% of uranium ore onlyIf nuclear power increases significantly (≈x10), the uranium peak could bereach in 50 years

Generation 4 systems

Use 100% of uranium ore : 238U non fissileBreed their own fissile material : 238U+n → 239Pu ; 232Th+n → 233UReserves for 50000 years at least !Minimisation of long-term waste (transmutation)ButNew technologies, more complex, expensive (fast neutrons)Sodium technology → is safety compatible with 3000 reactors ?

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20S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

geothermal

- Heat from radioactivity of 238U, 232Th, 40K

- Total geothermal power = 22 TW Same order of magnitude of the world energy consumptionGeothermal flux = 0.06 W/m2 (<< solar)

-But : heated rocks = thermal energy storedNot renewable, but significant capacities possible in some region

Europe : 10% of heating possible

Specific case : IcelandSurface 103 000 km²Population 320 000Density 3 / km2

(France ~120)

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21S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

Fusion nuclear energy

+

Tritium does not exist in nature :6Li + n → t + 4HeFuel : deuterium and lithium : reserves for thousands of years

Long-term reserachReserves of deuterium and lithium for 50000 years too

But, will we be ready for 2050?

+ + ++ + + 17 MeV

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22S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

0

5

10

15

20

25

World

Gto

e/y

Fossile + CO2

Renew. non electrical

Fossile without CO2

Renew. electrical

Nuclear

2 constraints for 2050 20 Gtoe/yGHG emission reduced by a factor 2

Energy mix based on optimistic evaluation of renewable

sources, nuclear and CO2storage capacities

A large use of electricity for heating is needed (this leads to

a energy production greater than 20 Gtep)

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23S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009

As a conclusion

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24S. David, Energy sources for the 21th century, Strasbourg, June 2009