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The Galloping Gazette The Official Newsletter Of The
Central Virginia Mustang Club November 2017 / Issue 371
CVMC News
CvmC ElECtions
Our club is recognized throughout Central Virginia as a club who supports community activities through cruise-ins, parades, hospital visits, veterans organizations, churches, senior citizen organizations, etc., etc., etc. For the last ten years we have received the coveted Presidents Award from the Mustang Club of America which recognizes clubs for outstanding achievement and devotion to the Mustang hobby and service to the community. This just doesn’t happen- it takes hard work and commitment.
We will be electing a President, Vice President, Treasurer, Secretary, National Director, Membership Director and six Board of Directors. These positions are two year appointments. For a complete description of the duties of each position, please refer to the CVMC website and look up our By - laws.
Please find a ballot attached at the end of this Newsletter. If you have any questions, please call me at 804-730-1450 or email me at [email protected].
Thank you for your time and participation!
Article by: Judith A Dickey
mEmbErship Remember – membership runs the calendar year: January 1 to Dec 31st. If you join September through the end of the year, your membership is valid for the following calendar year as well. Car season is here and we need your help to find new members - If you need more recruitment cards, please see Nickie! THANK YOU! to Mike Peyton and Sharon Hazelgrove for assisting with Membership! If you would like to help recruit new members, please see Nickie Armstrong for details. For membership questions, please contact Nickie at [email protected] Lanyard Vouchers: New members and renewing members will be receiving a lanyard and name badge voucher with their member packet. To redeem the voucher, please see Nickie Armstrong at the next club meeting/function. NOTE: New & Renewing Members – Please allow 2-4 weeks for delivery of your membership packet. Thank you!
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BIRTHDAYS: CVMC would like to wish the following members a very big HAPPY Birthday: 11/1: Huraiz AlFalasi 11/7: Amy Blumenthal 11/10: Andrew Peachy Lawrence McMurty 11/13: Tommy Wilson 11/16: Dwight Vivas Joseph Vivas 11/17: Ted Reisner 11/20: Jimmy Brazell Louise McDowell 11/22: Jordan Chaulklin 11/24: Franklin Graham 11/25: Gordon Martin 11/27: Curtis Robb 11/28: Robin Reese
-Recruitment: Do your part and help spread the CVMC word. Invite friends and fellow mustang enthusiasts to visit our website, like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter! Share our club’s events with your social network – we love to see new faces!
Article byish: Nickie Armstrong
CvmC monthly mEEting minutEs
October 4, 2017
The meeting was called to order at
7:30 pm by Kathy McWilliams, President, with 46 in attendance.
I. New Members: Ben with a 99
Cobra, Elliott with an 09 GT, and Robert with a 65.
II. Old Member News: Ray Louth bought a new 2016 GT, Dave Lythgoe added a 2017 California Special to his collection, Dwight Vivas bought a 1942 military Jeep, and Brian Armstrong added a 99 Cobra race car to his collection.
III. Treasurer’s Report: Ron Martin presented the
September financial information.
IV. Membership Report: 144 active members including 10 from last month, 8 of which came from the Fall show. Time to renew for 2018.
V. MCA Report: Please see Dave Dickey’s report in the monthly newsletter for details on MCA. The 2019 MCA shows have been announced. NCRMC will look to CVMC to partner on their National show.
VI. Elections: Judi Dickey is heading the Election Committee. Half of the board and all of the office positions are up for reelection. The club needs help from volunteers. Positions of Treasurer and Membership Director have been vacated. Please call or email Judi if you are interested in a position.
VII. Past Events: Glen Allen parade, 11 cars. Powhatan parade, 10 cars. Mission BBQ saw about 25 cars. Had a large crowd for the goodie bag stuffing night at Ron’s. McGuire VA show, 4 cars. Tanglewood Ordinary Restaurant cruise, 20 cars.
VIII. Upcoming Events: Please check the newsletter, website and Facebook for the most up to date list of events as we have a very full calendar.
IX. Parades: Ashland 11/19, Mechanicsville 12/3.
X. Website/Facebook: no updates.
XI. Fall Show: 155 registered, 7 no shows. Show was sold out, but we were able to find spots for everyone on the waiting list. Presented 4 best of show, 81 firsts, 18 seconds, 8 thirds, and 3 PV. Thanks to the HUGE number of volunteers that came out
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to support the club and the show.
XII. Merchandise: Jim Marr has taken over the merchandise. Please provide him with feedback on what types of items you would like to see.
XIII. Open agenda: April 17th, 2018, is National Mustang day. Team Shelby will host a 5-day trip to the museum in Concord, NC. Details to follow.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 pm. Article by: Michelle Jordan
CvmC board of dirECtors mEEting
minutEs
October 17, 2017
The meeting was called to order at 6:59 pm by Kathy McWilliams, President. In attendance: Kathy McWilliams, Graham Marstellar, Michelle Jordan, Dave Lythgoe, Nickie Armstrong, Llew Stakes, Ron Martin, Nannette Stanley, Rusty Wiseman, Johnny McGrath, Laurie Deusebio, Mike Peyton, Tony Hall. Guests: Gren Stanley, David Deusebio, Marsha Stakes, Brian Armstrong.
I. Club Enthusiasm: Need to get membership enthused about events and increase participation. All BOD members should encourage participation and recruitment of new members.
II. Membership: Suggested possible auto-response when membership forms are submitted on line.
III. Holiday Party: same venue/menu as last year. $25 pp. Chinese gift exchange, $15 limit.
IV. Fall Show Update: Trophy plates will start going out to winners in the next few weeks. Voted on distribution of show proceeds: $1,000 to (spring) VCU Massey Cancer Center, $1,000 to (fall) Feed-More Inc. Ron Martin pricing new tents to replace existing…easier storage, easier up and down. Will move number of PV awards to 5 due to increase in new models attending. Need new location for Spring show.
V. Parades: Ashland 11/19, Mechanicsville 12/3.
VI. Cruise Ins: See the revised 2017 events list. Leaf cruise 10/21, 10/28 Horsepower on Main. Looking for ideas for next year. Capital Region MCA show…looking for volunteers.
VII. Elections: Judi Dickey will have ballots sent out for November meeting. Membership and Treasurer positions are open.
VIII. Open Agenda: Seeking suggestions for guest speakers to attend winter meetings. Ideas go to Johnny McGrath. Next meeting – January 24, 2018, 7pm, Grapevine.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:39 pm.
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CVMC Merchandise Jim Marr is working on new shirts
and hats for us to go along with all of his regular swag. He is also taking
orders for winter coats and can have your name embroidered onto them.
Let him know if there is anything you are looking for!
Jim Marr E-mail: [email protected]
A New CVMC Member Benefit: Get 15% off your Croftgate purchases
through Venemous Works. Robert Jahn is Central Virginia's Croftgate dealer. Use code "CVMC" at check out. Check out Venemous Works is on Facebook.
upComing paradEs
The Mechanicsville Christmas Parade is December 3rd, at 2:00 PM
The Ashland Holiday Parade is November 19th, at 2:00 PM
More info will to come.
Article by: Llew Stakes
For a 10% discount on Labor Charges be sure to
present your Current CVMC Membership Card
upComing ashton CrEEk winEry trip
We are CONFIRMED for a cruise
in at Ashton Creek winery on Jeff Davis in Chester for Sunday, Nov 4th from 11 am till they close. Tastings are either $5.00 (mini tasting) or $7.00 for a regular tasting. They are hosting us in conjunction with their one-year anniversary. Come out and join us! Article by: Amy Blumenthal
Richmond Ford Phone: 804-358-5521 4600 West Broad St. Richmond, Va. 23230
www.richmondford.com Be sure to present your CVMC Membership Card for a Club Discount on parts in their
Parts Department Ron Kody President Richmond Ford Lincoln
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2017 full throttlE fall fEst
Sign up today for our FTFF car show and track event at Virginia International Raceway on November 11-12, 2017. Click here if you want to attend the car show. Click here to sign up for the car show today: https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/car-show-parade-laps-at-f... See More
CVMC will be Cruising to the
Full Throttle Fall Fest 2017 on Saturday, November 11th. We will meet at the WAWA located at 12001 Southshore Point Dr. Midlothian, VA 23112, just off Route 360 Hull Street Road at 7:00am, we will leave at 7:15am. The Car Show is $20.00, the Parade Laps are $20.00. This event is a lot of fun, you will not regret going just ask those who have been. For more information click the link above. You DO NOT have to be a member of SCMC or TCUSA to participate in the Car Show or Parade Laps.
Article by: Tony Hall
mason’s toy box – box
wrapping party
Sunday November 5th 2017 Time: 1PM – 4PM
Calling all Elves! We will be meeting at the home of Ron Martin who has
volunteered space to wrap boxes for Mason’s Toy Box, which will be
delivered to local Richmond businesses for toy collection. Pizza and soda will be provided as well as all materials. Please come out, and have a great
time for this worthy cause.
mason’s toy box – CruisE in
Saturday November 18 2017 Time:
10AM – 1PM Please join us At Mission BBQ located
at: 5450 Glenside Dr. for a toy drive/cruise in with great people for a
great cause. Have some BBQ and enjoy fellowship.
mason’s story:
Not all children will be at home with their family for the holiday season. Some will be in a hospital fighting for their lives, or recovering from an illness, and their parents will be right by their side. Please consider donating an unwrapped gift for a child, a care
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package for parents. A donation through pay pal (email: [email protected]) consider a monetary donation to purchase a gift for their parents to remember they are something special - remember this is a time when parents can hardly focus on themselves. Parent gifts can also be gift certificates from hair/nail salons, massages, pamper packages, etc. Mason Clark Thomas fought a rare childhood cancer (stage IV Neuroblastoma), from age 5 to 11, and lost his battle June 20, 2011. Mason and his mom spent many holidays in the hospital while he was sick. We collect toys in his honor to brighten the faces of all who are fighting to survive the holiday season. Donate new, unwrapped toys, parent care packages, gift certificates or make financial contributions through PayPal under email [email protected]
Article by: ‘Wild’ Bill Evans
tEam shElby toys for tots
SATURDAY DECEMBER 9TH 2017
7:30AM TOYS “R” US 3101 PLANK RD.
FREDERICKSBURG, VA.
Team Shelby South Atlantic Virginia Chapter has once again been invited to participate with Stangs &
Fangs in the annual Toys For Tots event. We will meet & depart at 7:30 AM. Location: McDonalds 9145 Chamberlayne Rd, Mechanicsville, Virginia 23116 and cruise to Fredericksburg. Meet up at the Toys "R" Us, and depart for Quantico Marine Corps Base under police escort. This is a great event - Don't miss!
Article by: ‘Wild’ Bill Evans
mCa rEport
Mustang Club of America news: • I have received confirmation CVMC
again qualified for the 11th straight year MCA’s Presidents Award which will be mailed to me after the October 13 to 15 Regional Directors Summit and Board of Directors weekend meetings in Irving Texas.
• For long range planning purposes the dates and locations for the 2019 MCA National and Grand National shows have been awarded to the following clubs:
• March 29 to 31 in Houston, Texas • June 28-30 in Minneapolis,
Minnesota • August 29 to September 1 in
Fredericksburg, Virginia, host will be National Capital Region Mustang Club (NCRMC), which I am a 40
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year member. As of this date the MCA approved location, as seen from I 95, West and is just South of the small Airport will be in the new conference/shopping center. The present plans call for it to be an indoor show. Since this will be Mustangs 55th year of continuous production MCA, at this point in time, does not know what Ford Motor Company is going to do. If Ford decides to have a big anniversary celebration then the show will be a National show, if not then it will becomes an MCA Grand National show. The show chairman, Dana Valec, contacted Kathy to discuss the show and indicated CVMC would like to partner with NCRMC for this show. I have known Dana for more than 20 years and may have introduced Dana to NCRMC. Dana sent the following email:
Hi Dave, Just want to fill you in on the latest news regarding our 2019 MCA show over the Labor Day weekend. We're in the midst of setting up the show committee leads and also looking for volunteers to work on the committee's. I posted a request for volunteers on our website which I hope you can still access and read. If not, let me know and I'll provide you with details so you can add them to your November newsletter. We have not yet set up any official show meetings yet since 31 Oct is the deadline for our club members to respond to volunteer for a committee. I'll contact Kathy McWilliams the first week of November in order to discuss CVMC partnering with us for this show. As you know there will be a ton of work and planning over the next 22 months to put on this show and our club looks forward to partnering with
CVMC as we move forward to putting on this show. Talk to you later Dana Malec All MCA show registrations for
2018 will be through Motosho and they are now taking registrations for both the March 16 to 18 and May 25 to 27 National shows. Their website: www.motosho.com.
For our new members you can join MCA, on line, at 3 different tier levels which are discussed at MCA’s website www.mustang.org. When you join please let me or Nickie Armstrong know. I will need your MCA number because your membership counts toward CVMC’s Presidents award which is awarded each year to any MCA club that qualifies. As a member you receive “Mustang Times” magazine included with your membership and NOT available on newsstands or anywhere else.
In the September issue is a fine article about some the required functions that I perform as your Regional Director on page 11. For you Steve Saleen fans a great “Anniversary Tribute” editorial of Steve’s 1987 race teams SCCA championships and an introduction of a pair of limited edition Saleen Mustangs, pages 42 to 49. Also are some very useful information on the advantages and disadvantages on buying a two or four post lift, page 62. There is an advertising section that lists many Mustangs for sale or wanted, and parts listing. As a member of MCA you can advertise your Mustang or Mustang parts at no charge on pages 76 to 79.
There is another online Mustang club on face book with over 1200 members in 18 countries around the world. This club is devoted to just 6 cylinder Mustangs of all years. The club has no dues and the newsletter is online at M6A.
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As always check our newsletter and face book websites for upcoming Christmas parades and parties in our area. Article By Dave Dickey MCA Regional Director Phone: 804-730-1450 E-mail: [email protected] CVMC - MCA Gold Card Judges 1964½-1966: Dave Dickey 1967-1968: Dave Dickey 1965-1970 Shelby’s: Rick Noctha CVMC – MCA Certified Judges 1964-66: Rick Nochta 5th Generation: Dave Dickey, Tony Hall, Michelle Jordon, David Lythgoe, & Dave Thomas
davE & Judy diCkEy’s trip
We’re back from a long planned vacation to the Great Smokey
mountains, leaf viewing & visiting with Gene & Diane who volunteered to take
1 & 1/2 months out of their lives to take care of me after my Heart
attack. The drive up the mountain to the top of the Tennessee/N. Caroline
boarder park (Newfound Gap @ 5,000 + feet), then back down was similar to
the Dragon Trail with 1 turn a 360 degree & another figure 8 turn. The drive straight back was around 10 +
hours or so driving time from Knoxville, Tennessee via I 40, I 81, I 77, US 19 across the New River Gorge (WOW is that beautiful & deep), I 79,
all thru the mountains viewing the leaves (color was not that great),
then I 68 to Uniontown, Pa. I drove Judi's 2015 Toyota Mobility van,
getting better @ driving that thing. Next day taking I 68, I 70, I 81, I 66 to US 17 to Fredericksburg (the leaf color was better on this route then
from Tennessee up, then I 95 home & very tired.
Article By: Dave Dickey
tanglEwood ordinary CruisE & lunChEon
On Sunday, October 1, 2017,
there were 15 awesome Mustangs ready to depart from the McDonalds meeting place at 11280 Patterson Avenue for our destination in Maidens, Virginia. The day was perfect with plenty of sunshine and seasonably warm temperatures.
The origins of the land that eventually became the site of the restaurant known as Tanglewood Ordinary dates back to 1858. As the land passed through the family generations, the original home site on the property was sold in 1908. The two-room log cabin structure was then built on an adjacent parcel in 1928 at a cost of $80.00, serving both as a filling station and sandwich shop.
Throughout the years,
Tanglewood has maintained its character, one that only a building made of hand stripped logs with little written plans can have. It is unique in Goochland County and Virginia, and is believed to be one of the largest commercially used log structures in America, being recognized on the National Register of Historic Places.
There were several other CVMC members, who drove directly from home, meeting us there for a total of 31 very hungry people! We dined “family style” on delicious country
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cooking, just having a relaxing time of being together.
This day was also very special for me since it was the first time I drove my 1970 Mach1 with the group!
Article By Sharon Hazelgrove
CvmC holiday party
Please don’t forget to sign up for the Holiday party with Nannette this week at the meeting. If you can’t make the
meeting, you can let her know at:
Nanette Stanley [email protected]
Also, if you have signed up, please plan on paying her for your seat this
week at the meeting as well.
The party is at 6 PM on Saturday December 2nd and will be held at the
Grapevine Restaurant located at 11055 Three Chopt Rd, Richmond, VA
23233.
novEmbEr 2017 Car
hobbyist nEws from thE CounCil
Late last November the EPA
decided to continue to allow people to purchase ethanol-free gasoline. Gasoline blends are determined on a yearly basis and we will keep checking to see if the EPA does anything different this year. With a new administration and a new head of the EPA I believe most car hobbyists are hopeful that ethanol-free gasoline remains for sale (you've just got to find it). We can also hope that winter and summer blends of gasoline may change and that could mean better gas mileage for our vehicles. I had someone contact me who was in the process of getting a title using the abandoned vehicle process. The problem this person was having was that DMV had decided to set a value on the vehicle and collect the Motor Vehicle Sales and Use Tax. Let's review this. If someone abandons a vehicle on your property - such as a renter leaves a non-running car when the renter leaves for parts unknown - you can't just take the vehicle and sell it because it is against Virginia law to sell a vehicle unless you have title to that vehicle. State law is clear that in order to sell a vehicle in Virginia you must have a title. Virginia is a title state. If someone wants to sell you a vehicle and it doesn't have a title my advice is to tell the seller to get a title before you buy. If the person cannot get a title or refuses to get one then
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don't buy the vehicle. You will avoid a lot of trouble. I'm sure there are some people who have vehicles without titles who decided to go with the abandoned vehicle process in order to get a title. Well DMV has added a twist. If you do use the abandoned vehicle process then DMV will determine the value of the vehicle and charge you the Motor Vehicle Sales and Use Tax (SUT tax). DMV can use an approved guide to set the vehicle value and then charge you the 4.15% tax on the "purchase". Apparently DMV doesn't want you to have the good fortune of finding an abandoned vehicle on your property and then get to own it cheap - they are going to assign a value and tax you on that value. From the DMV website: Calculating the SUT Tax For a transaction between private individuals, the minimum Motor Vehicle Sales and Use Tax is calculated based on the trade-in value given in the NADA Official Used Car Guide. You must present either an Affidavit for Procurement of Title (SUT-1A) if the vehicle is 5 years old or newer (based on the model year) or a Bill of Sale if the vehicle is more than 5 years old. (The sale price placed on a title certificate by the seller is the equivalent of a bill of sale.) A bill of sale must be signed by both the seller and the buyer to include the full vehicle description, vehicle identification number and date of sale. Here is the state law: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/58.1-2402 You need to keep this in mind if you use the abandoned vehicle process to obtain a title. DMV will tax you on the NADA trade-in value. Although there is no state law that says you must have a bill of sale in addition to a signed by seller title of a vehicle - you need to get a bill of sale if you buy from a private person. A dealership will take care of the paperwork and
obtain a title for you. I know of several people who have been stung by the SUT tax. This is because some DMV customer service centers will look up the value of a vehicle in the NADA and then assign that value instead of the value written as the sale price on the title. Again, apparently DMV is trying to stop people from dodging payment of the full tax. If a person buys a vehicle for $30,000 the SUT tax would be $1245. Now if that person writes on the title that the purchase price was $20,000 then the SUT tax drops to $830 and they've just saved over $400. This is enough incentive for some people to break the law and put in a lower sales price. You can see how easy this would be with older vehicles because the price varies by condition - and that allows DMV to catch some people it shouldn't. This really happened to someone I know. This guy spots a car on the side of the road with a for sale sign. He stops, looks over the car and talks to the woman who owns it. The car hasn't run for some time and it is clearly apparent the car needs a lot of work. The guy buys it for a parts car because he owns a driver that is the same make and model. He follows the law exactly and takes the title to DMV to be transferred into his name. He writes the exact amount he paid for the car on the title. DMV calls him a liar and ups the price to the NADA trade-in value. He has no bill of sale so he ends up paying more tax then he legally should have paid. So how to you prevent this from happening to you? Every time you buy a vehicle from a private person get a signed bill of sale along with the title. Make sure everything from VIN to price to make, model, year match on both documents. Take both to DMV to obtain the title in your name. You will now have proof that you actually paid the price stated and you will be charged the correct amount of tax.
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Here is the section from the code mentioned above if you are considering putting a low sale price on the title and bill of sale: "Any person who with intent to evade or to aid another person to evade the tax provided for herein, falsely states the selling price of a vehicle on a bill of sale, assignment of title, application for title, or any other document or paper submitted to the Commissioner pursuant to any provisions of this title or Title 46.2, shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor." You can download a bill of sale at this link: http://carclubcouncil.com/bill_of_sale_notary.pdf. Article by CCCCV President Fred Fann
1988 Ford Mustang LX For Sale
Amy Blumenthal's 1988 mustang convertible LX.....2.3 engine, 5 speed. Fox body, red with a cream white top
and cream white seats. It has the black rubber trim. Many of you know the work that has been done over the
years....the car just refuses to run....serious inquiries only to
Rick Nochta has been restoring Mustangs since 1985. To better serve the Mustang
hobbyist, Rick became a MCA certified and gold card judge for 65-70 Shelbys and
Shelby American Automobile Club (SAAC) 1965 Shelby Head Judge. SAAC asked Rick to rewrite the 65-66 Shelby judging rules
which are used today. For all your Mustang needs, call Rick today at 804-321-5383.
Professional Appraiser of Antique, Classic and Special Interest Vehicles. The price is $75 a car
when in a group of 4 cars. 757-421-902
For all of your Hardwood Flooring needs give Don Lane a call at!
1-800-379-5353 or 804-748-0723
Be sure to present you CVMC Membership Card for a $0.05 per Sq. Ft. discount!
Officers
President: Kathy McWilliams
804-512-7403 [email protected]
Vice President: Graham Marsteller
804-722-3888 - H 757-286-3452 - C
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Secretary: Michelle Jordan 804-397-0026
Treasurer: Ron Martin 804-798-1780
MCA Regional Director: Dave Dickey 804-730-1450
Membership Director: Nickie Hannigan 804-588-8272
Past President: Tony Hall 804-337-4807
Directors
Llew Stakes 804-262-5789
Tommy Wilson 804-672-6159
Sharon Hazelgrove 804-272-4007
David Thomas 804-364-3381
Jim Marr [email protected]
George Godsey 804-385-0788
David Lythgoe 804-909-0869
Rusty Wiseman 804-357-6196
Laurie Deusebio [email protected]
Johnny McGrath 804-769-1238
Nanette Stanley
Mike Peyton 804-672-0726
Volunteers
Newsletter Editor: Graham Marsteller 804-722-3888 - H 757-286-3452 - C
Web Site/Facebook Rusty Wiseman 804-357-6196
Kathy McWilliams 804-512-7403
Club Merchandise: Jim Marr
Club Promotions: Tommy Wilson 804-672-6159
Membership: Nickie Hannigan 804-588-8272
Parades: Llew Stakes
804-262-5789 [email protected]
Cruises In’s: Tommy Wilson 804-672-6159
Llew Stakes 804-262-5789
Track Events: George Bobrovsky
804-794-0350 [email protected]
Spring Show Chairman:
David Thomas 804-364-3381
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Fall Show Chairman:
Ben Bruno [email protected]
& Mike Peyton
804-672-0726 [email protected]
Judging:
Dave Dickey 804-730-1450
[email protected] David Thomas 804-364-3381
Monthly Door Prizes: Betty Wiseman 804-357-6209
And Militza Wiseman
Social Events: Nanette Stanley
Welcoming Committee: Johnny McGrath 804-769-1238
[email protected] Bill Evans, Janet Chase, Gren Stanley.
2018-2019 CVMC CANDIDATES
OFFICER CANDIDATES (Vote with a checkmark by their name)
President – Kathy McWilliams ----------------------------------------------------------
Vice President – Graham Marsteller ----------------------------------------------------
Secretary – Michelle Jordan ------------------------------------------ ---------------
Treasurer - Gwen Stanley ------------------OR David Thomas ------------------
National Director - David Dickey --------------------------------------------------------
Membership Director – Nanette Stanley ------------------------------------------------
BOARD CANDIDATES ( Vote for six with a checkmark by their names)
Llew Stakes -------------------------------
Curley O’Dell ----------------------------
Sharon Hazelgrove -----------------------
Robert Doswell ---------------------------
Robert Lyles ------------------------------
Sandy Robins -----------------------------
Jim Marr -----------------------------------
Ray Louth ---------------------------------
Tommy Wilson ---------------------------
David Deusbio ----------------------------