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It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @ICTmagic. Topic:Strategies & tips to improve low-level behaviourissues?
20:00:41 @ICTmagicTonight we are discussing low-level behaviour issues &
tips to deal with them. #ukedchat20:00:59 @ICTmagic
What low-level behaviour issue is the bane of your life?#ukedchat
20:01:06 @UKBlogAwards
Hello #ukedchat we hope you do not mind us joining inthis evening? We are looking to link with educationindustry bloggers!
20:01:10 @ICTmagic
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20:01:11 @Mishwood1
@ukedchat @ICTmagic Has to be whole schoolbehaviour management policy based on positivereinforcement consistently applied #ukedchat
20:01:15 @mrpeel#ukedchat low level twattage - the constant trying towhisper or text - not even witty.
20:01:49 @mistercollardLow level talking which is just enough to put you off#ukedchat
20:02:34 @mrpeel#ukedchat not too stressful tho. Always follow through
on threatened sanctions.20:02:35 @ICTmagic
@BehaviourTeach I don't remember seeing your handup! :) #ukedchat
20:03:05 @Jivespin
NEW RESOURCE - Talking chips - a useful tool to helpdirect chatty students #ukedchat A strategy that helpsdeal with low level behaviour.
20:03:09 @ICTmagic@mrpeel Is the texting to pupils in the same room?#ukedchat
20:03:31 @ICTmagic@BehaviourTeach What sort of interruptions arecommon? (remember to use the hashtag) #ukedchat
20:03:38 @Jivespin
Another little trick ......Magpie cards - promotingcollaboration in your lessons. http://wp.me/p3pzMr-7F#ukedchat
20:03:50 @mrpeel
#ukedchat non idea - just take the phone... happy to getlaugh with jokes about boys with hands in pocketsunder the tables - more an issue
20:03:59 @magicalmaths
Maths Lesson Algebra Starter Resource EncodingDecoding Messages - #edchat #ukedchat...http://tinyurl.com/8gcu5g2
20:04:04 @magicalmaths Maths Lesson Starter Extension Problem - What are
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Congruent Shapes? - #edchat #ukedchat...http://tinyurl.com/d9dg7q5
20:04:12 @ICTmagic
@Mishwood1 Can you outline some of the features ofyour whole school behaviour manage system?
#ukedchat
20:04:15 @UKBlogAwards
@mrpeel you may be interested in our awards which golive for entry this week! Please feel free to share yourposts with us! #ukedchat
20:04:44 @mrpeel
@mrpeel #ukedchat with trainees who get stuck withgroups and allow a sense of lack of awareness todevelop - make this a key to training
20:05:06 @Sablonette #ukedchat constantly turning round
20:05:20 @ICTmagic@mrpeel I work is primary, so that hasn't been an issue
for me. Is it very common? #ukedchat20:05:23 @UKBlogAwards
@Jivespin > this sounds like an effective tool! Does itwork? #ukedchat
20:05:36 @ukedchatTonight's #ukedchat topic: Strategies & tips to improvelow-level behaviour issues? Hosted by @ICTmagic
20:05:46 @ICTmagicWhat are the differences between low-level behaviourissues in Primary and Secondary? #ukedchat
20:05:50 @Mishwood1
@ICTmagic All staff trained, clarity of expectations,focus on de-escalation and positive rewards,
involvement of parent/carers..#ukedchat20:06:15 @Jivespin
@UKBlogAwards Yes - really hits the mark. Even betterwhen you get your TA involved #ukedchat
20:06:16 @UKBlogAwards@magicalmaths we would love for you share your postswith us! #ukedchat
20:06:17 @CazpUK Year 6 boys general silliness #ukedchat
20:06:39 @mrpeel
@ICTmagic not in my current school... #ukedchat or mycurrent classes. Being 6'4 helps - I see a great deal andam quite intimidating
20:06:45 @mrandmrsteach
Repair and rebuild conversations with students after abehaviour incident. Every lesson is a fresh start.#ukedchat
20:06:48 @OuthwaiteTtInspired by 3 y/o today. A great day!#lovebeingateacher #ukedchat #earlyed #nurseryideas
20:06:52 @eylanezekiel
#ukedchat 1st tool to manage low level behaviour is'The Look' the one that says "This is all I should need,shall we get on with learning?"
20:07:27 @CazpUKPassive learners and poor learning behaviour#ukedchat
20:07:40 @Sablonette #ukedchat @ICTmagic @mrpeel Or are phones used
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as learning tools? Aren't they creating more behaviourissues?
20:07:42 @ICTmagic @mrpeel Yes sir, you are sir! :) #ukedchat
20:07:58 @ukedchat
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20:07:59 @mrpeel#ukedchat I forgive a lot if it is witty and inventive. It'scrass silliness that narks.
20:08:09 @oldandrewuk #ukedchat I find punishing students helps.
20:08:15 @eylanezekiel
#ukedchat 2nd tool is empathy - if you cannotunderstand the child and their behaviour - your
sanctions will not fix anything
20:08:29 @StuartLock
To deal with low level behaviour, absolutely no chancesor warnings before action. Certainty of action.#ukedchat
20:08:34 @cherrylkd
All staff being consistent in their treatment of low levelbehaviour issues is key. Child should always know whatto expect #ukedchat
20:08:38 @UKBlogAwards
@Jivespin Yes we bet! Great way to learn sharingapproach also, as well as talking about the topicpromotes learning! #ukedchat
20:08:55 @ICTmagic
Do we think that benefits of using mobiles in classoutweighs potencial behaviour problems with them?#ukedchat
20:08:58 @TeachingTopTips
MAKE behaviour management easier by putting one ofthese signs on your classroom door. #ukedchatpic.twitter.com/tUTHOA6XRj
20:09:02 @SparkyTeachingIt's awe or nothing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN3l5TkRzBY #ukedchat #ulearn13
20:09:09 @designthinkingMake sure your students know what u expect from them#ukedchat pic.twitter.com/me8jQfZ6Cb
20:09:15 @UKBlogAwards@OuthwaiteTt feel free to share with us! Do you Blog atall? #ukedchat
20:09:21 @philallman1 @cherrylkd oh totally agree! #ukedchat
20:09:45 @ICTmagic
Any schools found a good balance between usingmobiles in lessons & behaviour management of them?Any schools banned them? #ukedchat
20:09:47 @Jivespin
@UKBlogAwards Also gives freedom to collaborate andencourages the weaker students to 'get out there' and
ask #ukedchat
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20:10:04 @mrpeel
@oldandrewuk yearning for the birch? The vital thing idto follow through on any threatened sanction, howeverslight it seems.#ukedchat
20:10:07 @eylanezekiel
#ukedchat 3rd tool is 'righteous indignation' - you
manage the safety and respect of that space. Believe inthose rules - or they won't
20:10:14 @caroljallenOften a link between low level behaviour issues andhunger, tiredness #ukedchat
20:10:19 @Sablonette
#ukedchat @ICTmagic cause more issues I'd say - noleast protection of privacy and ensuing argumentsbetween students.
20:10:42 @LottefranFor teaching & techno-shy teachers: iPad, Nexus orHuddl? #ukedchat #engchat
20:10:51 @mrpeel can i just ask? Anyone else here old enough toremember the threat of the cane? #ukedchat it neverworked, but I remember it hurt.
20:10:52 @ICTmagic@oldandrewuk What form does this punishment take?#ukedchat
20:10:56 @TeachingTopTipsGET pupils to behave by reminding them that you'vealready got your GCSEs. #ukedchat
20:10:58 @eylanezekiel
#ukedchat - Unlike @oldandrewuk I find carrot worksbetter than stick - but ... not afraid 2 use the latter either(figuratively of course)
20:11:13 @mrandmrsteach@cherrylkd Definitely you need absolute consistency.#ukedchat
20:11:15 @UKBlogAwards @oldandrewuk Your Blog looks fab! #ukedchat #edchat
20:11:21 @School_LN
@ICTmagic yes indeed, as long as students understandusage expectations and outcomes are made clear#ukedchat
20:11:36 @StuartLockGiving warnings indicates that you're happy to spendtime warning them. #ukedchat #nowarnings
20:11:40 @ExploreEd@mrpeel I totally agree with following through on action- it clearly defines boundaries #ukedchat
20:11:43 @rgreen_ITT
adapted @dylanwiliam secret student, it made chnresponsible for own learning and made it a class effort.Very effective! #ukedchat
20:11:53 @UKBlogAwards @cherrylkd whatever their age! #ukedchat
20:12:01 @ICTmagicWhere does parental support/engagement fit in todealing with low-level behaviour issues? #ukedchat
20:12:09 @TeachingTopTips
SHOW others that you've perfected managing difficultpupils by ordering them to do whatever they happen tobe doing already. #ukedchat
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20:12:12 @developingTandL
@dandesignthink: Make sure your students know whatu expect from them #ukedchatpic.twitter.com/jk6OMFics4 We had them - highlyrecommended
20:13:02 @dawson_serena@ICTmagic Banned in ours from Sept. Less troublewhen told to have on desks, but it was bad manners totext etc during lessons.#ukedchat
20:13:16 @annamkerrFollow up everything, don't tolerate one persondisrupting others learning. #ukedchat
20:13:39 @UKBlogAwards
@dandesignthink looks fab Dan! Do you make yourown Infrographics? Picture paints a thousand words!#ukedchat
20:13:52 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel You bribe children to behave?
#ukedchat20:13:54 @oldandrewuk
@ICTmagic #ukedchat Whatever the school policyallows.
20:14:02 @mrpeel
#ukedchat I always try to be consistent and only letmyself down when they make me laugh due to genuinewit or cleverness.
20:14:17 @annamkerr
Often low level behaviour issues are boredom, I chatwith kid and ask what can I do to help them focus-usually throws them! #ukedchat
20:14:30 @oldandrewuk @mrpeel #ukedchat You just contradicted yourself.
20:14:41 @UKBlogAwards@Jivespin yes great indirect learning techniques!#ukedchat #edchat
20:14:45 @Jivespin
Getting parents involved is important too. Their supportin dealing with silly behaviour is vital. If not then it isimpossible #ukedchat
20:14:57 @School_LNLessons that engage student interest are the best wayto reduce low level behaviour issues #ukedchat
20:15:06 @UKBlogAwards @mrpeel thanks for the follow! #ukedchat #edchat
20:15:06 @eylanezekiel
@oldandrewuk and you punish them to behave?#ukedchat How is that working out 4 you? I said I use arange of approaches. Do you use just 1?
20:15:06 @ICTmagic
@dawson_serena Was there much debate about thedecision amongst the staff? Widely supported?#ukedchat
20:15:20 @mrpeel
@oldandrewuk #ukedchat nothing new there then... Icherish the truly inventive spirit of twattage - even if itneeds sanction
20:15:27 @Sablonette
@Jivespin #ukedchat depends very much on the kind of
parents you have...
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20:15:39 @oldandrewuk@StuartLock #ukedchat Unfortunately it's very oftenpolicy.
20:15:55 @Jivespin @Sablonette Absolutely #ukedchat
20:15:55 @UKBlogAwards
@TeachingTopTips Is this effective? Are all children
aware of the impact that their GCSE's make to theiradult lives? #ukedchat
20:16:10 @Sablonette@Jivespin #ukedchat but I do agree, in principleinvolving parents makes things much easier!
20:16:13 @ukedchat
Become a member of the #ukedchat.com forum andadd your comments to an array of past discussions.http://ukedchat.com/forum-2/ukedchat-topics/
20:16:24 @oldandrewuk
@eylanezekiel #ukedchat I didn't say anything aboutquantity, just wanted to check that you were endorsing
bribery as better than punishment
20:16:31 @eylanezekiel
#ukedchat warnings are not just a threat - they are aguide to children who are developing their social skillsabout where the boundaries R
20:16:33 @ICTmagic
Which do you find more useful? The carrot or the stick?(Hopefully not literately!) Can you give examples fromyour own teaching? #ukedchat
20:16:37 @ukedchat
Tonight's #ukedchat topic again: Strategies & tips toimprove low-level behaviour issues? Hosted by@ICTmagic
20:16:45 @eylanezekiel@oldandrewuk define bribery - then define punishment- in this context - please #ukedchat
20:16:54 @dawson_serena
@ICTmagic Debate? You're kidding! Decision made,end of. I liked to use for Socrative (sshh, don't tell, I stilldo sometimes) #ukedchat
20:17:07 @Mat6453Innovating a (PE) Department http://shar.es/E2OZW#ukedchat #pegeeks @pegeeks #edtech
20:17:22 @CaptainGoveIs it behaviour tonight? Simple: Cane the buggers.#ukedchat @ukedchat
20:17:31 @Sablonette@ICTmagic #ukedchat both work - it depends on therelationship you have with the class.
20:17:35 @UKBlogAwards
@mrpeel we feel it is key for Teachers to showcasepersonality instead of portraying themselves as robots?#ukedchat
20:17:36 @mrpeel
@CaptainGove @ukedchat #ukedchat only thebuggers? Seems a bit homophobic. Surely one size fitsall.
20:17:56 @oldandrewuk @eylanezekiel #ukedchat Bribery is something given to
induce particular behaviour. Punishment is something
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deserved for bad behaviour.
20:18:01 @eylanezekiel
@oldandrewuk by 'carrot' I meant, mainly, - housepoints to those who are behaving to point to what I wantor whole class rewards #ukedchat
20:18:37 @nightzookeeper@ICTmagic I found this very important. Useful to tryand find time at the end of each day to speak w/parents, obvious, but helps #ukedchat
20:18:49 @hgreggors Insistent consistency! #ukedchat
20:19 @Sablonette
@ICTmagic #ukedchat 3 green squares and 2 red oneson board - everytime you say shh.. a box gets filled.When they get in the red = sanction
20:19:03 @mrpeel@UKBlogAwards #ukedchat not our job to showcaseanything surely, but simply to be ourselves.
20:19:07 @ICTmagic @Sablonette Is it not important to foster a relationshipwhere the carrot works best? Students working with Urather than against? #ukedchat
20:19:36 @mrpeel
@ICTmagic @Sablonette #ukedchat ideally all workingin same direction. Set boundaries, encourage to remainwithin and sanction when don't
20:19:38 @JohnWoottonUK
#UKedchat ... Always refer to learning rather thanbehaviours exhibited whenever possible ... Dependswhat time of year and what group
20:19:58 @MrGsBrain Had a big chat, this morning, about the death of levelsand the birth of deciles #ukedchat making primarypupils "secondary-ready"
20:20:03 @ukedchat
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20:20:24 @Sablonette
#ukedchat @ICTmagic tell the kids @ start that you'regoing to watch a student throughout the lesson.if they'regood= star student @ end
20:20:27 @eylanezekiel
@oldandrewuk but your standards are dropping. Nobehaviour - good or bad - equals a particular result.#ukedchat
20:20:32 @ICTmagicWhat behaviour stategies do you employ in your ownclassroom? #ukedchat
20:20:41 @Sablonette @mrpeel @ICTmagic #ukedchat totally
20:20:43 @WhiteDebs#ukedchat : low level behaviour issues? Answer has tobe engagement of all pupils
20:20:50 @englishlulu There are only 30 seats left at #TMLiteracy - get in their
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quick my friends #literacychat #ukedchathttp://teachmeet.pbworks.com/w/page/68322846/TeachMeet%20Literacy
20:20:58 @ICTmagic@RichardFiona Can you expand on why parental
support is important? #ukedchat20:21:07 @oldandrewuk
@eylanezekiel Are you seriously rejecting the entireconcept of desert AND calling it sloppy? #ukedchat
20:21:30 @web20education
@iversity #startup #mooc #elearning platform tojoin/organize free ecourses http://goo.gl/dwqQW8#ukedchat #elemchat #lrnchat #ntchat
20:21:42 @JohnWoottonUK
#UKedchat ... Give direct command statements quicklyand refer back to learning ... Don't drone on about theinappropriate behaviours
20:21:47 @UKBlogAwards @mrpeel this is true! Do you think some children forgetTeachers have a real personality and are 'real' humans:themselves!? #ukedchat
20:22:13 @catalinelechat
@caroljallen: Often a link between low level behaviourissues and hunger, tiredness #ukedchat Have seenthis recently-frustrating for all!
20:22:14 @Sablonette
@ICTmagic #ukedchat Yes, I agree - but it alsocultivates the idea that expected behaviour deservesprizes etc. A balances is needed.
20:22:28 @designthinking#ukedchat do praise points, stickers work?pic.twitter.com/u3dvO4JDhg
20:22:29 @TeachingTopTips
ENSURE that pupils with iPhones can't be distracted byit for an entire lesson by making them start the iOS7update. #ukedchat
20:22:30 @mrpeel
@UKBlogAwards #ukedchat I think some teachersforge tthat they were children- see low level behaviourin whole staff inset!
20:22:58 @ICTmagicAnybody using home/school agreements or pupilcontacts? Useful? #ukedchat
20:23:06 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat So behaving is consideredpraiseworthy rather than normal and expected?
20:23:10 @mrandmrsteach
A bit obvious but develop a seating plan & change it ifnecessary to keep students focused. Also focus onpositive behaviours. #ukedchat
20:23:10 @MrWaldram#ukedchat @ukedchat see my positive behaviour card -simple and useful. http://ow.ly/pHo4L
20:23:18 @Sablonette@mrpeel @UKBlogAwards #ukedchat indeed.Teachers can be the worst audience.
20:23:19 @MrGsBrain #ukedchat tend to use 'sound checks' to bring over-the-
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top noise to their attention. I try to praise constantly foron-task learning chat
20:23:48 @outdooradventu1#ukedchat Rewards and Sanctions in the short term.Model, Teach and instil mutual respect in the long term.
20:23:49 @UKBlogAwards@englishlulu your Blog looks extremely inspiring! Ourawards may be of interest we go live Monday!#ukedchat #edchat
20:23:58 @batttukFocus on the behaviour - seems easy but... 'love thesinner, hate the sin.' #ukedchat
20:24:01 @MrWaldramFocus on the behaviour - seems easy but... 'love thesinner, hate the sin.' #ukedchat
20:24:02 @mrpeel
@oldandrewuk @eylanezekiel #ukedchat this isexacerbated by interim reports allowing a 1 for extra
special good behaviour20:24:35 @oldandrewuk
@eylanezekiel #ukedchat Not at all. Desert is anabsolutely vital moral concept.
20:24:35 @JohnWoottonUK
#UKedchat ... Ask the teachers who have no troublewhat they say or do ... Expertise is in our own schoolsusually
20:24:41 @urban_teacher
Teachers are only one factor amongst all of the manyfactors that make for academically successful students#ukedchat
20:25:29 @WhiteDebs @ICTmagic can be, but generally for a short period oftime - quickly become ineffective! #ukedchat
20:25:30 @CaptainGove
"@CaptainGove @ukedchat #ukedchat only thebuggers? Seems a bit homophobic. Surely one size fitsall." Reminds me of my Eton days. #marrow
20:25:35 @ICTmagicWhat role can classmates play to keep pupils exhibitinglow-level behaviour issues in check? #ukedchat
20:25:35 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel But simply for refraining frommisbehaving? #ukedchat
20:25:55 @eylanezekiel
@oldandrewuk #ukedchat - likewise - everyone getshousepoints as often as possible - but they are heldback from those who need reminder.
20:26:03 @UKBlogAwards@magicalmaths thanks for the follow #ukedchat#education
20:26:14 @outdooradventu1@ICTmagic #ukedchat Whole class rewards and peerpressure.
20:26:20 @BehaviourTeach@ICTmagic calling out, random noises, fiddling#ukedchat
20:26:27 @MrDJamieson
I've seen people use this as a fun way to rewardpositive behaviour @ClassDojo #ukedchat
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20:26:52 @web20education
Top 20 #startup tools 4 #connectededucators toorganize awesome web conferencing on #ce13http://bitly.com/ce13webconferencing #edchat#ukedchat #byodchat
20:26:52 @Sablonette@JohnWoottonUK @ICTmagic #ukedchat that's mypoint.But there's room for discretion (hyperactive kidmanaging to keep still) you get my point
20:26:53 @ICTmagic@BehaviourTeach Do you have tips to prevent this?#ukedchat
20:26:55 @eylanezekiel
@oldandrewuk #ukedchat - it is like the old classmarble jar argument... Put them in for good behaviour -but do you take them out for bad?
20:27:01 @Mad_teach@ICTmagic I find it so hard to get them to ignore the
attention seeking. #ukedchat
20:27:01 @UKBlogAwards
@MrWaldram @ukedchat > please feel free to shareyour Blog posts with us and will happily share!#ukedchat #blogger
20:27:02 @dhulston
@ukedchat inclusive relevant creative curriculumdelivered with empathy and understanding bycompassionate facilitators.#ukedchat #behaviour
20:27:19 @mrpeel #ukedchat good topic pre #educatingyorkshire
20:27:20 @UKBlogAwards
@Sablonette @mrpeel we particularly remember thishappening! So if adults aren't controlled, how are thechildren? #ukedchat
20:27:29 @ICTmagicHow do you deal with children who 'seek attention'?#ukedchat
20:27:32 @outdooradventu1
@eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk #ukedchat Put theirnames in for bad. x3 you miss marble time. If you get amarble take your name out.
20:27:41 @JohnAHobson
@mrpeel I was caned regularly for not knowing theanswer in maths. Not surprisingly I avoided maths forrest of life #ukedchat
20:27:53 @philallman1@ICTmagic: How do you deal with children who seekattention? #ukedchat Everyone! Ignore this tweet
20:28:02 @mrpeel
#ukedchat - know your class and adjust delivery andcontent for each one and for time of day but stick toparameters of tolerance
20:28:03 @RichardFiona
@ICTmagic had low level behaviour issue and asked afriend to observe as I'd tried things and they onlyseemed to work temp. #ukedchat
20:28:08 @eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk To make desert specific and targeted -
AND moral - it cannot be in the hands of one person
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#ukedchat "I am the law"20:28:13 @ICTmagic @philallman1 LOL! #ukedchat
20:28:43 @urban_teacherTeacher Tip: Be more than just a teacher. Bring yourpersonality. Be a person they can believe in. #ukedchat
20:28:43 @UKBlogAwards@MrWaldram perhaps you need to feel rewarded foryour blogging content? Awards create awareness!#ukedchat #edchat
20:28:43 @Mad_teach
@HairSV I just quietly say "1 min off playtime... 2mins..." Those closest to me soon shush the others!#ukedchat
20:28:51 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel Two teachers in every classroom?#ukedchat
20:29:19 @ukedchat
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20:29:24 @Sablonette @JohnWoottonUK #ukedchat absolutely
20:29:29 @tmeeky
@TeachingTopTips: SHOW others that you'veperfected managing difficult pupils.... #ukedchat >> I like that. Would that work for PDA?
20:29:32 @ICTmagic
Is the humble sticker the best behaviour managementtool ever made? Secondary colleagues thoughts?
#ukedchat
20:29:44 @JohnWoottonUK
#UKedchat ... What's best? Concentrating on learningor spending time writing names on a board,concentrating on behaviour? Only one answer
20:29:53 @mrpeel#ukedchat and dont be afraid to use silence to stop thegentle twattage - much more effective than shouting.
20:30:01 @WhiteDebs#ukedchat : we tried privilege time for awhile, butremoved it as didn't feel it was making any difference.
20:30:01 @eylanezekiel
@oldandrewuk Not what I am saying. a variety ofapproaches (not just threat of punishment) means P ismore likely to be fair #ukedchat
20:30:02 @TeachingTopTipsREWARD well-behaved pupils by not punishing them.#ukedchat
20:30:07 @tmeeky
RT @TeachingTopTips: ENSURE that pupils withiPhones can't be distracted by it for an entire lesson...#ukedchat>> Brill!
20:30:07 @HolbyL
#ukedchat - engaging students by getting them to lead,even in the simplest sense of pausing and unpausing avideo they may be watching!
20:30:11 @UKBlogAwards @RichardFiona Hi Fiona, great book! Please feel free to
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share your posts. We are also creating a free bloggingebook! #ukedchat
20:30:22 @mrpeel#ukedchat I remember having to thank my HM after hecaned me. Quite bizarre. I think we even shook hands.
20:30:41 @eylanezekiel@outdooradventu1 @oldandrewuk #ukedchat I thinkonce marbles are in - none come out. Class treat.Unless kid is excluded - they join in.
20:31:12 @ICTmagic@WhiteDebs How long did you use privilege time forbefore it was stopped? #ukedchat
20:31:19 @outdooradventu1@mrpeel #Ukedchat Silence doesn't work for everyclass hough. Some will keep you waiting forever.
20:31:20 @Sablonette
@mrpeel #ukedchat indeed, can be very powerful. Or'ignore' a student. Teach them, but don't raise to their
baits. Very hard but effective.
20:31:28 @digitalpedpet
Are they engaged? Are activities too long? Quick fireactivities and accountability to stop loafing. It's ateacher issue first #ukedchat
20:31:28 @tmeeky
RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat and dont be afraid to usesilence to stop the gentle twattage >> I agree but itmight take some time though, no?
20:31:38 @MrGsBrain
@mrpeel: #ukedchat and dont be afraid to use silenceto stop the gentle twattage-much more effective thanshouting. Tomorrow's lunch quote
20:31:47 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat So you are assumingteachers are too incompetent to punish fairly?
20:31:49 @FarNorthEd
#ukedchat Does anyone still use the class pointssystem where they get rewards for good participation &behavior? Lose pts for bad.
20:32 @mrpeel@outdooradventu1 #ukedchat - hence know your class,but it can be worht waiting in the long run
20:32:17 @joanne_rich
@philallman1: @ICTmagic: How do you deal withchildren who seek attention? #ukedchat Everyone!Ignore this tweet *giggles*
20:32:43 @RichardFiona@ICTmagic she saw things I'd missed and was reallyhelpful. #ukedchat
20:33 @tmeeky
RT @outdooradventu1: @mrpeel #Ukedchat Silencedoesn't work for every class hough. Some will keep youwaiting forever.>> yes, I agree
20:33:04 @caroljallen
@ICTmagic Look for ways to make them feel special,the need is real and once satisfied removes thebehaviour #ukedchat
20:33:04 @FarNorthEd @HolbyL #ukedchat Letting students drive the
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technology in the room gives them ownership over theactivity. Good choice
20:33:08 @mrpeel
@tmeeky @outdooradventu1 #ukedchat me too, butwe're talking low level - the sudden silence which
makes them realise they#'re audible...
20:33:33 @ICTmagic
@dawson_serena I love @ClassDojohttp://ictmagic.wikispaces.com/Classroom+Management+%26+Rewards#classdojo #ukedchat
20:33:42 @MrGsBrain
As usual, no definite answer, anecdotal results that relyon a good TEACHER. Fairplay to all of you; you knowyour pupils #ukedchat
20:33:56 @ChrisChivers2
#ukedchat Worth considering the term consequences?Offer your possible choices to child. Avoids instant
reactions.20:34:08 @outdooradventu1
@mrpeel True its another tool in the bag. I like to run astopwatch for extra dramatic effect. #Ukedchat
20:34:14 @MrOCallaghanEdu@urban_teacher I'd echo that with 'be remarkable!'#ukedchat
20:34:16 @caroljallen
@catalinelechat It is so frequently forgotten but the linkbetween physical readiness to learn and behaviour isclear #ukedchat
20:34:22 @tmeeky
RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat ..Offer your possiblechoices to child. Avoids instant reactions.>> yes, Iagree. Pose choice, step back...wait
20:34:37 @UKEMIE
Please read our EMIE October Newsletter -http://eepurl.com/GCAIT #diversity #education #bme#teachers #ukedchat #TWWordOfMouthWorldTour
20:34:59 @WhiteDebs
@ICTmagic about two years - problems: losing minutesdidn't have an effect - system unmanageable - rewardtime not special enough #ukedchat
20:35:01 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat You appear to be assumingincompetence as the norm for teachers.
20:35:03 @MrACalvert
#UKedchat Always find out who is the biggest troublemaker in each class and make a point of finding out asmuch positive stuff as possible.
20:35:20 @tmeekyRT @oldandrewuk: @eylanezekiel #ukedchat >> youtwo are going to on all night if you are not careful :)
20:35:34 @UKEMIE
Please read our EMIE October Newsletter -http://eepurl.com/GCAIT #diversity #education #bme#teachers #ukedchat @OpBlackVote
20:35:35 @ICTmagic
@WhiteDebs Did it ever work or was they a slow
decline in effectiveness? #ukedchat
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20:35:38 @eylanezekiel
@oldandrewuk #ukedchat - behaviour policies need toconsider wellbeing in the broader sense - moral, ethical,psych, not just for then
20:35:43 @UKEMIE
Please read our EMIE October Newsletter -
http://eepurl.com/GCAIT #diversity #education #bme#teachers #ukedchat @BMETeachers
20:35:53 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat Nobody's arguing againstsystems, just for ones based on desert.
20:35:57 @outdooradventu1#ukedchat When all else fails. Stop everything and singa song. It keeps me sane and lightens the mood.
20:36:36 @RichardFiona
We use @ClassDojo with class winner taking GusGorilla home for weekend. Yr2. Wkly School pointswinners get cert in assembly #ukedchat
20:36:48 @eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk #ukedchat - but because every momentof unfairness in a 'naughty' kid's life reinforces thechances of a criminal adult
20:36:52 @MrGsBrain@MrACalvert #ukedchat do they deserve your time,though??
20:37:17 @WhiteDebs@ICTmagic #ukedchat worked well for the first term,maybe two - but not after that.
20:37:18 @ICTmagic @WhiteDebs Became the new norm? #ukedchat
20:37:29 @tmeeky
@outdooradventu1: #ukedchat When all else fails.Stop
everything and sing a song. It keeps me sane andlightens the mood.>> or start crying
20:37:50 @eylanezekiel@oldandrewuk I like anything based on dessert! (sic)#ukedchat
20:37:52 @oldandrewuk @eylanezekiel #ukedchat No it doesn't.
20:38:16 @gillski22Class Dojo is good for awarding behaviour points#ukedchat
20:38:36 @ChrisChivers2
@tmeeky It can be easy to react and misinterpret. Assoon as "It's not fair" mindset develops, greaterdisruption can occur. #ukedchat
20:39 @UKBlogAwards
@eylanezekiel your tweets are v innovative & inspiring!We would love for you to be apart of our free bloggingebook (all welcome) #ukedchat
20:39:03 @ICTmagic
@eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk Desert vs Dessert - Thenew carrot and stick. Sounds like a blog post to me.#ukedchat
20:39:23 @ukedchat Comment on the forum after tonight's #ukedchatStrategies & tips to improve low-level behaviourissues? Forum http://ukedchat.com/forum-2/ukedchat-
topics/strategies-and-tips-to-improve-low-level-
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behaviour-issues/
20:39:40 @eylanezekiel@oldandrewuk Yes it does.... (no it doesn't... yes itdoes - etc) #Ukedchat meme
20:39:49 @UKBlogAwards@eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk please email
[email protected] #ukedchat
20:39:59 @tmeeky
@ChrisChivers2: It can be easy to react andmisinterpret. As soon as "It's not fair" ...> Yes, then it'sdamage limitation. #ukedchat
20:40:10 @DackBlog
If u have to follow a school warning policy, cover yourarse by giving warnings annually to all classes at thestart of September #ukedchat
20:40:29 @ukedchat
Sign up to a bulletin from #UKedchat to keep up to datewith the UK's largest teacher discussion on Twitter.
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20:40:38 @HairSV
#ukedchat If you're always trying to get rid of badbehaviour, you can't really understand it; you're caughtup in reacting to it.
20:40:49 @UKBlogAwards
We must call it time for tonight! Thanks for allowing usto be apart of #ukedchat Please look out our site formore info! Also run #BlogHour
20:40:59 @dukkhaboy
#ukedchat don't reward poorly behaved with extraholiday revision sessions so as to catch up for notlistening 1st time round
20:41:08 @tmeeky
RT @HairSV: #ukedchat If you're always trying to getrid of bad behaviour, you can't really understand it...>>good point
20:41:32 @oldandrewuk
@eylanezekiel #ukedchat I mean what you are sayingis obviously wrong. People don't murder, rape, steal etcbecause their teacher was unfair
20:41:55 @ukedchat
Next week, #UKEdchat is hosting a SCIENCE subjectspecial. See http://ukedchat.com/subjectspecials/ pic.twitter.com/6lD13vvGwc
20:42:22 @WhiteDebs @ICTmagic pretty much. #ukedchat
20:42:39 @mrpeel@ICTmagic #ukedchat my instinct is that it is appalling.What happens in real life?
20:42:50 @tmeeky
@ICTmagic: How do you feel about some schools usingcash rewards...? #ukedchat>> do you respond toprospects of a pay rise?
20:42:51 @dkillick79 Respond rather than react #ukedchat
20:43:08 @ICTmagic
Do detentions/losing breaktime (or threat of it) stop
behaviour issues? #ukedchat
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20:43:12 @oldandrewuk@Sdfahey @eylanezekiel Could it be we have free will?#ukedchat
20:43:57 @tmeeky
@ICTmagic:Do detentions/losing breaktime (or threat ofit) stop behaviour issues? #ukedchat>> Nah, not in my
ex. Just makes me miss my break
20:44:10 @ICTmagic
Does out and out bribery work? How do you feel aboutsome schools using cash rewards to 'movitate'students? #ukedchat
20:44:44 @eylanezekiel
@Sdfahey I totally agree with you It is not that I believein a relativist universe. I believe in absolutes but reallifedoesn't! #ukedchat
20:46:03 @Primary_Ed
Raffle tickets are good. Children get raffle tickets forpositive behaviour. Raffle draw at the end of week to
win prizes. #ukedchat #edchat
20:46:24 @mrpeel
#ukedchat some will only adjust to detention if it meansthey miss something they do enjoy. have chatted to PEdept to work out a good time
20:46:40 @natashakardos@ICTmagic From my experience, no. I think there areother strategies that could be more effective. #ukedchat
20:46:43 @tmeekyRT @ICTmagic: Does out and out bribery work?>> wedon't use cash bribes, but sure it would work #ukedchat
20:46:45 @LangdalePrimary
@eylanezekiel @ICTmagic Didn't Paul Pennyfatheroffer half a crown in Waugh's Decline and Fall 4 longestessay to 'shut them up' #ukedchat
20:46:56 @mrpeel
#ukedchat what constitutes positive behaviour? Wehave a right to expect good behaviour as a courtesy -aswe show respect. better than good
20:47:13 @ICTmagic@its_alastair Good tweet. Can you tweet again with the#ukedchat hashtag?
20:47:21 @ukedchatInterested in hosting a Thursday night #ukedchatsession? Contact @ukedchat for more details.
20:47:25 @SRTeaching
@ICTmagic classmates in a lot of cases are other peersrole models. Powerful teaching strategy. Useclassmates to empower others. #ukedchat
20:47:37 @SparkyTeaching
What do awe and wonder look like in your classroom?Here's our take: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN3l5TkRzBY #ukedchat #ulearn13 Inspired by@mrjkwilson
20:47:44 @ICTmagic@LorraineAbbott7 Interesting ideas. Thanks. @tmeeky#ukedchat
20:47:50 @mattpearson Plenty of low level disruption on twitter most nights,
guess we should sort that before we worry about the
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kids:-) #ukedchat
20:48:21 @Primary_EdSet the bar high. Show your class you care. #ukedchat#edchat
20:48:29 @mrpeel#ukedchat surely bribery is tantamount to admitting
defeat?20:48:38 @ICTmagic
Just over 5 minutes left. Time to tell us what did you gettold off for when you were at school? #ukedchat
20:48:45 @digitalpedpet
@ICTmagic as part of a wider recognition of goodcontribution in class then yes. It's the recognition that isimportant #ukedchat
20:48:46 @Hanna_English
@ICTmagic Intrinsic motivation is a key goal to ensurelearners can sustain focus and determination beyondschool. A real ideal :) #ukedchat
20:49:04 @SRTeaching @ICTmagic extrinsic motivation can only be a short-time fix. To truly develop learners, motivation mustcome from within #ukedchat
20:50:15 @digitalpedpet
@ICTmagic great teachers will capture imaginationwithout rewards initially though. That is 100% correct inmy mind #ukedchat
20:50:57 @ukedchat
Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts?Sign up to the bulletin at http://ukedchat.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39
20:51:02 @mrpeel
@ICTmagic #ukedchat in only 140? cheek, poor mathsand shutting a boy in a cupboard in biology, sneakingout of detention, ...
20:51:24 @tmeeky
@JohnWoottonUK @ICTmagic ...but my gut is thatINTRINSIC motivation is really what we wld all hope toinstil- not always poss tho #ukedchat
20:51:28 @eylanezekiel
@oldandrewuk still trying? it ain't going to happen!working .... and reading other comments in #ukedchat -challenging my own thinking
20:51:31 @passionateaboot
@ICTmagic @ukedchat What if all behaviour is a formof communication - what would behaviour issues becommunicating? #ukedchat
20:51:36 @JohnWoottonUK
@eylanezekiel @ICTmagic #ukedchat ... Briberysystems are a disgraceful way to solve issues ...Instigators should resign!
20:51:58 @ASTsupportAAli@ICTmagic Got told off for fighting! got suspended!Twice!! #ukedchat
20:52:06 @mrpeel
@JohnWoottonUK @eylanezekiel @ICTmagic
#ukedchat here, here
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20:52:42 @JamesTheo
"What does NOT work is to motivate people with thepromise of a reward." #ukedchathttp://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jmv2boghHzoC&pg=PT3&lpg=PT3&dq#v=onepage&
q&f=false 20:53:16 @LorraineAbbott7
#ukedchat seek to change students Mindsets, plan thisinto lesson. E.g. Dweck
20:53:32 @tmeeky
@passionateaboot: @ICTmagic What if all behaviour isa form of com>so agree. Can't sumtimes immaginewhat some kids av 2 live with #ukedchat
20:54:11 @WholeChildEd
National education success is consistently shown ascorrelated with culture & society's view on education asa priority. #edchat #ukedchat
20:54:23 @JohnWoottonUK #ukedchat ... Read PINK ... Autonomy, mastery andpurpose ... No need for bribery ...20:54:44 @digitalpedpet @ICTmagic For breaking bunsen burners! #ukedchat
20:54:53 @cherrylkd@ICTmagic Stealing the detention book as my namefeatured too heavily in it. Naughty Cherryl. #ukedchat
20:55:01 @jodieworld@ICTmagic correcting the teacher's spelling #ukedchat#geek
20:55:03 @tmeeky
@LorraineAbbott7: #ukedchat seek to change studentsMindsets, plan this into lesson. E.g. Dweck>> TheDweck approach is so simple but pwrful
20:55:12 @JamesTheo @ICTmagic Why? #ukedchat
20:55:21 @tmeeky
RT @JohnWoottonUK: #ukedchat ... Read PINK ...Autonomy, mastery and purpose ... No need forbribery ...>> But in reality for some kids??
20:55:50 @tmeeky
RT @cherrylkd: @ICTmagic Stealing the detentionbook as my name featured too heavily in it. NaughtyCherryl. #ukedchat>> tut tut :)
20:57:04 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat Right. You flounced out of anargument to "challenge your thinking". That follows.
20:57:10 @SuzanneCulshaw
@FarNorthEd @ICTmagic #ukedchat don't like losingpoints, keep separate. Possible to get behaviour point &postcard home in same lesson.
20:57:37 @ICTmagic
@JamesTheo Because #ukedchat is discussingbehaviour and after all these years I don't think yourteacher will punish you.
20:57:53 @ukedchat
Thanks to @ICTMagic for hosting this #UKEdchatsession. Do you teach SCIENCE? Next week, we focuson the subject pic.twitter.com/RxHGll5G5h
20:58:29 @rjnicolson Respect is gained by being respectful to everyone -
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colleagues, pupils and parents. Maintaining highexpectations is paramount. #ukedchat
20:59:01 @KasiaFKemp@ICTmagic they all want to copy the SC works a treatall year long from ks1 up to year 6! #ukedchat
20:59:48 @SRTeaching Kasia Fowle Kemp @KasiaFKemp 18m
21:00:28 @ukedchat
It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @ICTmagic for hostingtonights #ukedchat. The archive will be athttp://ukedchat.com/2013/10/10/session-172-strategies-and-tips-to-improve-low-level-behaviour-issues/ .