archive session 172

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ukedchat Archive 10th October2013 Hosted by @ICTmagic

Strategies & tips to improve low-level behaviour issues?

20:00:06 @ukedchat

It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @ICTmagic. Topic:Strategies & tips to improve low-level behaviourissues?

20:00:41 @ICTmagicTonight we are discussing low-level behaviour issues &

tips to deal with them. #ukedchat20:00:59 @ICTmagic

What low-level behaviour issue is the bane of your life?#ukedchat

20:01:06 @UKBlogAwards

Hello #ukedchat we hope you do not mind us joining inthis evening? We are looking to link with educationindustry bloggers!

20:01:10 @ICTmagic

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20:01:11 @Mishwood1

@ukedchat @ICTmagic Has to be whole schoolbehaviour management policy based on positivereinforcement consistently applied #ukedchat

20:01:15 @mrpeel#ukedchat low level twattage - the constant trying towhisper or text - not even witty.

20:01:49 @mistercollardLow level talking which is just enough to put you off#ukedchat

20:02:34 @mrpeel#ukedchat not too stressful tho. Always follow through

on threatened sanctions.20:02:35 @ICTmagic

@BehaviourTeach I don't remember seeing your handup! :) #ukedchat

20:03:05 @Jivespin

NEW RESOURCE - Talking chips - a useful tool to helpdirect chatty students #ukedchat A strategy that helpsdeal with low level behaviour.

20:03:09 @ICTmagic@mrpeel Is the texting to pupils in the same room?#ukedchat

20:03:31 @ICTmagic@BehaviourTeach What sort of interruptions arecommon? (remember to use the hashtag) #ukedchat

20:03:38 @Jivespin

Another little trick ......Magpie cards - promotingcollaboration in your lessons. http://wp.me/p3pzMr-7F#ukedchat

20:03:50 @mrpeel

#ukedchat non idea - just take the phone... happy to getlaugh with jokes about boys with hands in pocketsunder the tables - more an issue

20:03:59 @magicalmaths

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20:04:12 @ICTmagic

@Mishwood1 Can you outline some of the features ofyour whole school behaviour manage system?

#ukedchat


@mrpeel you may be interested in our awards which golive for entry this week! Please feel free to share yourposts with us! #ukedchat

20:04:44 @mrpeel

@mrpeel #ukedchat with trainees who get stuck withgroups and allow a sense of lack of awareness todevelop - make this a key to training

20:05:06 @Sablonette #ukedchat constantly turning round

20:05:20 @ICTmagic@mrpeel I work is primary, so that hasn't been an issue

for me. Is it very common? #ukedchat20:05:23 @UKBlogAwards

@Jivespin > this sounds like an effective tool! Does itwork? #ukedchat

20:05:36 @ukedchatTonight's #ukedchat topic: Strategies & tips to improvelow-level behaviour issues? Hosted by @ICTmagic

20:05:46 @ICTmagicWhat are the differences between low-level behaviourissues in Primary and Secondary? #ukedchat

20:05:50 @Mishwood1

@ICTmagic All staff trained, clarity of expectations,focus on de-escalation and positive rewards,

involvement of parent/carers..#ukedchat20:06:15 @Jivespin

@UKBlogAwards Yes - really hits the mark. Even betterwhen you get your TA involved #ukedchat

20:06:16 @UKBlogAwards@magicalmaths we would love for you share your postswith us! #ukedchat

20:06:17 @CazpUK Year 6 boys general silliness #ukedchat

20:06:39 @mrpeel

@ICTmagic not in my current school... #ukedchat or mycurrent classes. Being 6'4 helps - I see a great deal andam quite intimidating

20:06:45 @mrandmrsteach

Repair and rebuild conversations with students after abehaviour incident. Every lesson is a fresh start.#ukedchat

20:06:48 @OuthwaiteTtInspired by 3 y/o today. A great day!#lovebeingateacher #ukedchat #earlyed #nurseryideas

20:06:52 @eylanezekiel

#ukedchat 1st tool to manage low level behaviour is'The Look' the one that says "This is all I should need,shall we get on with learning?"

20:07:27 @CazpUKPassive learners and poor learning behaviour#ukedchat

20:07:40 @Sablonette #ukedchat @ICTmagic @mrpeel Or are phones used

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as learning tools? Aren't they creating more behaviourissues?

20:07:42 @ICTmagic @mrpeel Yes sir, you are sir! :) #ukedchat

20:07:58 @ukedchat

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20:07:59 @mrpeel#ukedchat I forgive a lot if it is witty and inventive. It'scrass silliness that narks.

20:08:09 @oldandrewuk #ukedchat I find punishing students helps.


#ukedchat 2nd tool is empathy - if you cannotunderstand the child and their behaviour - your

sanctions will not fix anything

20:08:29 @StuartLock

To deal with low level behaviour, absolutely no chancesor warnings before action. Certainty of action.#ukedchat

20:08:34 @cherrylkd

All staff being consistent in their treatment of low levelbehaviour issues is key. Child should always know whatto expect #ukedchat


@Jivespin Yes we bet! Great way to learn sharingapproach also, as well as talking about the topicpromotes learning! #ukedchat

20:08:55 @ICTmagic

Do we think that benefits of using mobiles in classoutweighs potencial behaviour problems with them?#ukedchat

20:08:58 @TeachingTopTips

MAKE behaviour management easier by putting one ofthese signs on your classroom door. #ukedchatpic.twitter.com/tUTHOA6XRj

20:09:02 @SparkyTeachingIt's awe or nothing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN3l5TkRzBY #ukedchat #ulearn13

20:09:09 @designthinkingMake sure your students know what u expect from them#ukedchat pic.twitter.com/me8jQfZ6Cb

20:09:15 @UKBlogAwards@OuthwaiteTt feel free to share with us! Do you Blog atall? #ukedchat

20:09:21 @philallman1 @cherrylkd oh totally agree! #ukedchat

20:09:45 @ICTmagic

Any schools found a good balance between usingmobiles in lessons & behaviour management of them?Any schools banned them? #ukedchat

20:09:47 @Jivespin

@UKBlogAwards Also gives freedom to collaborate andencourages the weaker students to 'get out there' and

ask #ukedchat

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20:10:04 @mrpeel

@oldandrewuk yearning for the birch? The vital thing idto follow through on any threatened sanction, howeverslight it seems.#ukedchat


#ukedchat 3rd tool is 'righteous indignation' - you

manage the safety and respect of that space. Believe inthose rules - or they won't

20:10:14 @caroljallenOften a link between low level behaviour issues andhunger, tiredness #ukedchat

20:10:19 @Sablonette

#ukedchat @ICTmagic cause more issues I'd say - noleast protection of privacy and ensuing argumentsbetween students.

20:10:42 @LottefranFor teaching & techno-shy teachers: iPad, Nexus orHuddl? #ukedchat #engchat

20:10:51 @mrpeel can i just ask? Anyone else here old enough toremember the threat of the cane? #ukedchat it neverworked, but I remember it hurt.

20:10:52 @ICTmagic@oldandrewuk What form does this punishment take?#ukedchat

20:10:56 @TeachingTopTipsGET pupils to behave by reminding them that you'vealready got your GCSEs. #ukedchat


#ukedchat - Unlike @oldandrewuk I find carrot worksbetter than stick - but ... not afraid 2 use the latter either(figuratively of course)

20:11:13 @mrandmrsteach@cherrylkd Definitely you need absolute consistency.#ukedchat

20:11:15 @UKBlogAwards @oldandrewuk Your Blog looks fab! #ukedchat #edchat

20:11:21 @School_LN

@ICTmagic yes indeed, as long as students understandusage expectations and outcomes are made clear#ukedchat

20:11:36 @StuartLockGiving warnings indicates that you're happy to spendtime warning them. #ukedchat #nowarnings

20:11:40 @ExploreEd@mrpeel I totally agree with following through on action- it clearly defines boundaries #ukedchat

20:11:43 @rgreen_ITT

adapted @dylanwiliam secret student, it made chnresponsible for own learning and made it a class effort.Very effective! #ukedchat

20:11:53 @UKBlogAwards @cherrylkd whatever their age! #ukedchat

20:12:01 @ICTmagicWhere does parental support/engagement fit in todealing with low-level behaviour issues? #ukedchat


SHOW others that you've perfected managing difficultpupils by ordering them to do whatever they happen tobe doing already. #ukedchat

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20:12:12 @developingTandL

@dandesignthink: Make sure your students know whatu expect from them #ukedchatpic.twitter.com/jk6OMFics4 We had them - highlyrecommended

20:13:02 @dawson_serena@ICTmagic Banned in ours from Sept. Less troublewhen told to have on desks, but it was bad manners totext etc during lessons.#ukedchat

20:13:16 @annamkerrFollow up everything, don't tolerate one persondisrupting others learning. #ukedchat


@dandesignthink looks fab Dan! Do you make yourown Infrographics? Picture paints a thousand words!#ukedchat

20:13:52 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel You bribe children to behave?

#ukedchat20:13:54 @oldandrewuk

@ICTmagic #ukedchat Whatever the school policyallows.

20:14:02 @mrpeel

#ukedchat I always try to be consistent and only letmyself down when they make me laugh due to genuinewit or cleverness.

20:14:17 @annamkerr

Often low level behaviour issues are boredom, I chatwith kid and ask what can I do to help them focus-usually throws them! #ukedchat

20:14:30 @oldandrewuk @mrpeel #ukedchat You just contradicted yourself.

20:14:41 @UKBlogAwards@Jivespin yes great indirect learning techniques!#ukedchat #edchat

20:14:45 @Jivespin

Getting parents involved is important too. Their supportin dealing with silly behaviour is vital. If not then it isimpossible #ukedchat

20:14:57 @School_LNLessons that engage student interest are the best wayto reduce low level behaviour issues #ukedchat

20:15:06 @UKBlogAwards @mrpeel thanks for the follow! #ukedchat #edchat


@oldandrewuk and you punish them to behave?#ukedchat How is that working out 4 you? I said I use arange of approaches. Do you use just 1?

20:15:06 @ICTmagic

@dawson_serena Was there much debate about thedecision amongst the staff? Widely supported?#ukedchat

20:15:20 @mrpeel

@oldandrewuk #ukedchat nothing new there then... Icherish the truly inventive spirit of twattage - even if itneeds sanction


@Jivespin #ukedchat depends very much on the kind of

parents you have...

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20:15:39 @oldandrewuk@StuartLock #ukedchat Unfortunately it's very oftenpolicy.

20:15:55 @Jivespin @Sablonette Absolutely #ukedchat


@TeachingTopTips Is this effective? Are all children

aware of the impact that their GCSE's make to theiradult lives? #ukedchat

20:16:10 @Sablonette@Jivespin #ukedchat but I do agree, in principleinvolving parents makes things much easier!

20:16:13 @ukedchat

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20:16:24 @oldandrewuk

@eylanezekiel #ukedchat I didn't say anything aboutquantity, just wanted to check that you were endorsing

bribery as better than punishment


#ukedchat warnings are not just a threat - they are aguide to children who are developing their social skillsabout where the boundaries R

20:16:33 @ICTmagic

Which do you find more useful? The carrot or the stick?(Hopefully not literately!) Can you give examples fromyour own teaching? #ukedchat

20:16:37 @ukedchat

Tonight's #ukedchat topic again: Strategies & tips toimprove low-level behaviour issues? Hosted by@ICTmagic

20:16:45 @eylanezekiel@oldandrewuk define bribery - then define punishment- in this context - please #ukedchat

20:16:54 @dawson_serena

@ICTmagic Debate? You're kidding! Decision made,end of. I liked to use for Socrative (sshh, don't tell, I stilldo sometimes) #ukedchat

20:17:07 @Mat6453Innovating a (PE) Department http://shar.es/E2OZW#ukedchat #pegeeks @pegeeks #edtech

20:17:22 @CaptainGoveIs it behaviour tonight? Simple: Cane the buggers.#ukedchat @ukedchat

20:17:31 @Sablonette@ICTmagic #ukedchat both work - it depends on therelationship you have with the class.


@mrpeel we feel it is key for Teachers to showcasepersonality instead of portraying themselves as robots?#ukedchat

20:17:36 @mrpeel

@CaptainGove @ukedchat #ukedchat only thebuggers? Seems a bit homophobic. Surely one size fitsall.

20:17:56 @oldandrewuk @eylanezekiel #ukedchat Bribery is something given to

induce particular behaviour. Punishment is something

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deserved for bad behaviour.


@oldandrewuk by 'carrot' I meant, mainly, - housepoints to those who are behaving to point to what I wantor whole class rewards #ukedchat

20:18:37 @nightzookeeper@ICTmagic I found this very important. Useful to tryand find time at the end of each day to speak w/parents, obvious, but helps #ukedchat

20:18:49 @hgreggors Insistent consistency! #ukedchat

20:19 @Sablonette

@ICTmagic #ukedchat 3 green squares and 2 red oneson board - everytime you say shh.. a box gets filled.When they get in the red = sanction

20:19:03 @mrpeel@UKBlogAwards #ukedchat not our job to showcaseanything surely, but simply to be ourselves.

20:19:07 @ICTmagic @Sablonette Is it not important to foster a relationshipwhere the carrot works best? Students working with Urather than against? #ukedchat

20:19:36 @mrpeel

@ICTmagic @Sablonette #ukedchat ideally all workingin same direction. Set boundaries, encourage to remainwithin and sanction when don't

20:19:38 @JohnWoottonUK

#UKedchat ... Always refer to learning rather thanbehaviours exhibited whenever possible ... Dependswhat time of year and what group

20:19:58 @MrGsBrain Had a big chat, this morning, about the death of levelsand the birth of deciles #ukedchat making primarypupils "secondary-ready"

20:20:03 @ukedchat

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#ukedchat @ICTmagic tell the kids @ start that you'regoing to watch a student throughout the lesson.if they'regood= star student @ end


@oldandrewuk but your standards are dropping. Nobehaviour - good or bad - equals a particular result.#ukedchat

20:20:32 @ICTmagicWhat behaviour stategies do you employ in your ownclassroom? #ukedchat

20:20:41 @Sablonette @mrpeel @ICTmagic #ukedchat totally

20:20:43 @WhiteDebs#ukedchat : low level behaviour issues? Answer has tobe engagement of all pupils

20:20:50 @englishlulu There are only 30 seats left at #TMLiteracy - get in their

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quick my friends #literacychat #ukedchathttp://teachmeet.pbworks.com/w/page/68322846/TeachMeet%20Literacy

20:20:58 @ICTmagic@RichardFiona Can you expand on why parental

support is important? #ukedchat20:21:07 @oldandrewuk

@eylanezekiel Are you seriously rejecting the entireconcept of desert AND calling it sloppy? #ukedchat

20:21:30 @web20education

@iversity #startup #mooc #elearning platform tojoin/organize free ecourses http://goo.gl/dwqQW8#ukedchat #elemchat #lrnchat #ntchat


#UKedchat ... Give direct command statements quicklyand refer back to learning ... Don't drone on about theinappropriate behaviours

20:21:47 @UKBlogAwards @mrpeel this is true! Do you think some children forgetTeachers have a real personality and are 'real' humans:themselves!? #ukedchat

20:22:13 @catalinelechat

@caroljallen: Often a link between low level behaviourissues and hunger, tiredness #ukedchat Have seenthis recently-frustrating for all!


@ICTmagic #ukedchat Yes, I agree - but it alsocultivates the idea that expected behaviour deservesprizes etc. A balances is needed.

20:22:28 @designthinking#ukedchat do praise points, stickers work?pic.twitter.com/u3dvO4JDhg


ENSURE that pupils with iPhones can't be distracted byit for an entire lesson by making them start the iOS7update. #ukedchat

20:22:30 @mrpeel

@UKBlogAwards #ukedchat I think some teachersforge tthat they were children- see low level behaviourin whole staff inset!

20:22:58 @ICTmagicAnybody using home/school agreements or pupilcontacts? Useful? #ukedchat

20:23:06 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat So behaving is consideredpraiseworthy rather than normal and expected?

20:23:10 @mrandmrsteach

A bit obvious but develop a seating plan & change it ifnecessary to keep students focused. Also focus onpositive behaviours. #ukedchat

20:23:10 @MrWaldram#ukedchat @ukedchat see my positive behaviour card -simple and useful. http://ow.ly/pHo4L

20:23:18 @Sablonette@mrpeel @UKBlogAwards #ukedchat indeed.Teachers can be the worst audience.

20:23:19 @MrGsBrain #ukedchat tend to use 'sound checks' to bring over-the-

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top noise to their attention. I try to praise constantly foron-task learning chat

20:23:48 @outdooradventu1#ukedchat Rewards and Sanctions in the short term.Model, Teach and instil mutual respect in the long term.

20:23:49 @UKBlogAwards@englishlulu your Blog looks extremely inspiring! Ourawards may be of interest we go live Monday!#ukedchat #edchat

20:23:58 @batttukFocus on the behaviour - seems easy but... 'love thesinner, hate the sin.' #ukedchat

20:24:01 @MrWaldramFocus on the behaviour - seems easy but... 'love thesinner, hate the sin.' #ukedchat

20:24:02 @mrpeel

@oldandrewuk @eylanezekiel #ukedchat this isexacerbated by interim reports allowing a 1 for extra

special good behaviour20:24:35 @oldandrewuk

@eylanezekiel #ukedchat Not at all. Desert is anabsolutely vital moral concept.


#UKedchat ... Ask the teachers who have no troublewhat they say or do ... Expertise is in our own schoolsusually

20:24:41 @urban_teacher

Teachers are only one factor amongst all of the manyfactors that make for academically successful students#ukedchat

20:25:29 @WhiteDebs @ICTmagic can be, but generally for a short period oftime - quickly become ineffective! #ukedchat

20:25:30 @CaptainGove

"@CaptainGove @ukedchat #ukedchat only thebuggers? Seems a bit homophobic. Surely one size fitsall." Reminds me of my Eton days. #marrow

20:25:35 @ICTmagicWhat role can classmates play to keep pupils exhibitinglow-level behaviour issues in check? #ukedchat

20:25:35 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel But simply for refraining frommisbehaving? #ukedchat


@oldandrewuk #ukedchat - likewise - everyone getshousepoints as often as possible - but they are heldback from those who need reminder.

20:26:03 @UKBlogAwards@magicalmaths thanks for the follow #ukedchat#education

20:26:14 @outdooradventu1@ICTmagic #ukedchat Whole class rewards and peerpressure.

20:26:20 @BehaviourTeach@ICTmagic calling out, random noises, fiddling#ukedchat

20:26:27 @MrDJamieson

I've seen people use this as a fun way to rewardpositive behaviour @ClassDojo #ukedchat

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20:26:52 @web20education

Top 20 #startup tools 4 #connectededucators toorganize awesome web conferencing on #ce13http://bitly.com/ce13webconferencing #edchat#ukedchat #byodchat

20:26:52 @Sablonette@JohnWoottonUK @ICTmagic #ukedchat that's mypoint.But there's room for discretion (hyperactive kidmanaging to keep still) you get my point

20:26:53 @ICTmagic@BehaviourTeach Do you have tips to prevent this?#ukedchat


@oldandrewuk #ukedchat - it is like the old classmarble jar argument... Put them in for good behaviour -but do you take them out for bad?

20:27:01 @Mad_teach@ICTmagic I find it so hard to get them to ignore the

attention seeking. #ukedchat


@MrWaldram @ukedchat > please feel free to shareyour Blog posts with us and will happily share!#ukedchat #blogger

20:27:02 @dhulston

@ukedchat inclusive relevant creative curriculumdelivered with empathy and understanding bycompassionate facilitators.#ukedchat #behaviour

20:27:19 @mrpeel #ukedchat good topic pre #educatingyorkshire


@Sablonette @mrpeel we particularly remember thishappening! So if adults aren't controlled, how are thechildren? #ukedchat

20:27:29 @ICTmagicHow do you deal with children who 'seek attention'?#ukedchat

20:27:32 @outdooradventu1

@eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk #ukedchat Put theirnames in for bad. x3 you miss marble time. If you get amarble take your name out.

20:27:41 @JohnAHobson

@mrpeel I was caned regularly for not knowing theanswer in maths. Not surprisingly I avoided maths forrest of life #ukedchat

20:27:53 @philallman1@ICTmagic: How do you deal with children who seekattention? #ukedchat Everyone! Ignore this tweet

20:28:02 @mrpeel

#ukedchat - know your class and adjust delivery andcontent for each one and for time of day but stick toparameters of tolerance

20:28:03 @RichardFiona

@ICTmagic had low level behaviour issue and asked afriend to observe as I'd tried things and they onlyseemed to work temp. #ukedchat

20:28:08 @eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk To make desert specific and targeted -

AND moral - it cannot be in the hands of one person

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#ukedchat "I am the law"20:28:13 @ICTmagic @philallman1 LOL! #ukedchat

20:28:43 @urban_teacherTeacher Tip: Be more than just a teacher. Bring yourpersonality. Be a person they can believe in. #ukedchat

20:28:43 @UKBlogAwards@MrWaldram perhaps you need to feel rewarded foryour blogging content? Awards create awareness!#ukedchat #edchat

20:28:43 @Mad_teach

@HairSV I just quietly say "1 min off playtime... 2mins..." Those closest to me soon shush the others!#ukedchat

20:28:51 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel Two teachers in every classroom?#ukedchat

20:29:19 @ukedchat

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20:29:24 @Sablonette @JohnWoottonUK #ukedchat absolutely

20:29:29 @tmeeky

@TeachingTopTips: SHOW others that you'veperfected managing difficult pupils.... #ukedchat >> I like that. Would that work for PDA?

20:29:32 @ICTmagic

Is the humble sticker the best behaviour managementtool ever made? Secondary colleagues thoughts?

#ukedchat


#UKedchat ... What's best? Concentrating on learningor spending time writing names on a board,concentrating on behaviour? Only one answer

20:29:53 @mrpeel#ukedchat and dont be afraid to use silence to stop thegentle twattage - much more effective than shouting.

20:30:01 @WhiteDebs#ukedchat : we tried privilege time for awhile, butremoved it as didn't feel it was making any difference.


@oldandrewuk Not what I am saying. a variety ofapproaches (not just threat of punishment) means P ismore likely to be fair #ukedchat

20:30:02 @TeachingTopTipsREWARD well-behaved pupils by not punishing them.#ukedchat

20:30:07 @tmeeky

RT @TeachingTopTips: ENSURE that pupils withiPhones can't be distracted by it for an entire lesson...#ukedchat>> Brill!

20:30:07 @HolbyL

#ukedchat - engaging students by getting them to lead,even in the simplest sense of pausing and unpausing avideo they may be watching!

20:30:11 @UKBlogAwards @RichardFiona Hi Fiona, great book! Please feel free to

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share your posts. We are also creating a free bloggingebook! #ukedchat

20:30:22 @mrpeel#ukedchat I remember having to thank my HM after hecaned me. Quite bizarre. I think we even shook hands.

20:30:41 @eylanezekiel@outdooradventu1 @oldandrewuk #ukedchat I thinkonce marbles are in - none come out. Class treat.Unless kid is excluded - they join in.

20:31:12 @ICTmagic@WhiteDebs How long did you use privilege time forbefore it was stopped? #ukedchat

20:31:19 @outdooradventu1@mrpeel #Ukedchat Silence doesn't work for everyclass hough. Some will keep you waiting forever.


@mrpeel #ukedchat indeed, can be very powerful. Or'ignore' a student. Teach them, but don't raise to their

baits. Very hard but effective.

20:31:28 @digitalpedpet

Are they engaged? Are activities too long? Quick fireactivities and accountability to stop loafing. It's ateacher issue first #ukedchat

20:31:28 @tmeeky

RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat and dont be afraid to usesilence to stop the gentle twattage >> I agree but itmight take some time though, no?

20:31:38 @MrGsBrain

@mrpeel: #ukedchat and dont be afraid to use silenceto stop the gentle twattage-much more effective thanshouting. Tomorrow's lunch quote

20:31:47 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat So you are assumingteachers are too incompetent to punish fairly?

20:31:49 @FarNorthEd

#ukedchat Does anyone still use the class pointssystem where they get rewards for good participation &behavior? Lose pts for bad.

20:32 @mrpeel@outdooradventu1 #ukedchat - hence know your class,but it can be worht waiting in the long run

20:32:17 @joanne_rich

@philallman1: @ICTmagic: How do you deal withchildren who seek attention? #ukedchat Everyone!Ignore this tweet *giggles*

20:32:43 @RichardFiona@ICTmagic she saw things I'd missed and was reallyhelpful. #ukedchat

20:33 @tmeeky

RT @outdooradventu1: @mrpeel #Ukedchat Silencedoesn't work for every class hough. Some will keep youwaiting forever.>> yes, I agree

20:33:04 @caroljallen

@ICTmagic Look for ways to make them feel special,the need is real and once satisfied removes thebehaviour #ukedchat

20:33:04 @FarNorthEd @HolbyL #ukedchat Letting students drive the

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technology in the room gives them ownership over theactivity. Good choice

20:33:08 @mrpeel

@tmeeky @outdooradventu1 #ukedchat me too, butwe're talking low level - the sudden silence which

makes them realise they#'re audible...

20:33:33 @ICTmagic

@dawson_serena I love @ClassDojohttp://ictmagic.wikispaces.com/Classroom+Management+%26+Rewards#classdojo #ukedchat

20:33:42 @MrGsBrain

As usual, no definite answer, anecdotal results that relyon a good TEACHER. Fairplay to all of you; you knowyour pupils #ukedchat

20:33:56 @ChrisChivers2

#ukedchat Worth considering the term consequences?Offer your possible choices to child. Avoids instant

reactions.20:34:08 @outdooradventu1

@mrpeel True its another tool in the bag. I like to run astopwatch for extra dramatic effect. #Ukedchat

20:34:14 @MrOCallaghanEdu@urban_teacher I'd echo that with 'be remarkable!'#ukedchat

20:34:16 @caroljallen

@catalinelechat It is so frequently forgotten but the linkbetween physical readiness to learn and behaviour isclear #ukedchat

20:34:22 @tmeeky

RT @ChrisChivers2: #ukedchat ..Offer your possiblechoices to child. Avoids instant reactions.>> yes, Iagree. Pose choice, step back...wait

20:34:37 @UKEMIE

Please read our EMIE October Newsletter -http://eepurl.com/GCAIT #diversity #education #bme#teachers #ukedchat #TWWordOfMouthWorldTour

20:34:59 @WhiteDebs

@ICTmagic about two years - problems: losing minutesdidn't have an effect - system unmanageable - rewardtime not special enough #ukedchat

20:35:01 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat You appear to be assumingincompetence as the norm for teachers.

20:35:03 @MrACalvert

#UKedchat Always find out who is the biggest troublemaker in each class and make a point of finding out asmuch positive stuff as possible.

20:35:20 @tmeekyRT @oldandrewuk: @eylanezekiel #ukedchat >> youtwo are going to on all night if you are not careful :)

20:35:34 @UKEMIE

Please read our EMIE October Newsletter -http://eepurl.com/GCAIT #diversity #education #bme#teachers #ukedchat @OpBlackVote

20:35:35 @ICTmagic

@WhiteDebs Did it ever work or was they a slow

decline in effectiveness? #ukedchat

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@oldandrewuk #ukedchat - behaviour policies need toconsider wellbeing in the broader sense - moral, ethical,psych, not just for then

20:35:43 @UKEMIE

Please read our EMIE October Newsletter -

http://eepurl.com/GCAIT #diversity #education #bme#teachers #ukedchat @BMETeachers

20:35:53 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat Nobody's arguing againstsystems, just for ones based on desert.

20:35:57 @outdooradventu1#ukedchat When all else fails. Stop everything and singa song. It keeps me sane and lightens the mood.

20:36:36 @RichardFiona

We use @ClassDojo with class winner taking GusGorilla home for weekend. Yr2. Wkly School pointswinners get cert in assembly #ukedchat

20:36:48 @eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk #ukedchat - but because every momentof unfairness in a 'naughty' kid's life reinforces thechances of a criminal adult

20:36:52 @MrGsBrain@MrACalvert #ukedchat do they deserve your time,though??

20:37:17 @WhiteDebs@ICTmagic #ukedchat worked well for the first term,maybe two - but not after that.

20:37:18 @ICTmagic @WhiteDebs Became the new norm? #ukedchat

20:37:29 @tmeeky

@outdooradventu1: #ukedchat When all else fails.Stop

everything and sing a song. It keeps me sane andlightens the mood.>> or start crying

20:37:50 @eylanezekiel@oldandrewuk I like anything based on dessert! (sic)#ukedchat

20:37:52 @oldandrewuk @eylanezekiel #ukedchat No it doesn't.

20:38:16 @gillski22Class Dojo is good for awarding behaviour points#ukedchat

20:38:36 @ChrisChivers2

@tmeeky It can be easy to react and misinterpret. Assoon as "It's not fair" mindset develops, greaterdisruption can occur. #ukedchat

20:39 @UKBlogAwards

@eylanezekiel your tweets are v innovative & inspiring!We would love for you to be apart of our free bloggingebook (all welcome) #ukedchat

20:39:03 @ICTmagic

@eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk Desert vs Dessert - Thenew carrot and stick. Sounds like a blog post to me.#ukedchat

20:39:23 @ukedchat Comment on the forum after tonight's #ukedchatStrategies & tips to improve low-level behaviourissues? Forum http://ukedchat.com/forum-2/ukedchat-

topics/strategies-and-tips-to-improve-low-level-

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behaviour-issues/

20:39:40 @eylanezekiel@oldandrewuk Yes it does.... (no it doesn't... yes itdoes - etc) #Ukedchat meme

20:39:49 @UKBlogAwards@eylanezekiel @oldandrewuk please email

[email protected] #ukedchat

20:39:59 @tmeeky

@ChrisChivers2: It can be easy to react andmisinterpret. As soon as "It's not fair" ...> Yes, then it'sdamage limitation. #ukedchat

20:40:10 @DackBlog

If u have to follow a school warning policy, cover yourarse by giving warnings annually to all classes at thestart of September #ukedchat

20:40:29 @ukedchat

Sign up to a bulletin from #UKedchat to keep up to datewith the UK's largest teacher discussion on Twitter.

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20:40:38 @HairSV

#ukedchat If you're always trying to get rid of badbehaviour, you can't really understand it; you're caughtup in reacting to it.


We must call it time for tonight! Thanks for allowing usto be apart of #ukedchat Please look out our site formore info! Also run #BlogHour

20:40:59 @dukkhaboy

#ukedchat don't reward poorly behaved with extraholiday revision sessions so as to catch up for notlistening 1st time round

20:41:08 @tmeeky

RT @HairSV: #ukedchat If you're always trying to getrid of bad behaviour, you can't really understand it...>>good point

20:41:32 @oldandrewuk

@eylanezekiel #ukedchat I mean what you are sayingis obviously wrong. People don't murder, rape, steal etcbecause their teacher was unfair

20:41:55 @ukedchat

Next week, #UKEdchat is hosting a SCIENCE subjectspecial. See http://ukedchat.com/subjectspecials/ pic.twitter.com/6lD13vvGwc

20:42:22 @WhiteDebs @ICTmagic pretty much. #ukedchat

20:42:39 @mrpeel@ICTmagic #ukedchat my instinct is that it is appalling.What happens in real life?

20:42:50 @tmeeky

@ICTmagic: How do you feel about some schools usingcash rewards...? #ukedchat>> do you respond toprospects of a pay rise?

20:42:51 @dkillick79 Respond rather than react #ukedchat

20:43:08 @ICTmagic

Do detentions/losing breaktime (or threat of it) stop

behaviour issues? #ukedchat

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20:43:12 @oldandrewuk@Sdfahey @eylanezekiel Could it be we have free will?#ukedchat

20:43:57 @tmeeky

@ICTmagic:Do detentions/losing breaktime (or threat ofit) stop behaviour issues? #ukedchat>> Nah, not in my

ex. Just makes me miss my break

20:44:10 @ICTmagic

Does out and out bribery work? How do you feel aboutsome schools using cash rewards to 'movitate'students? #ukedchat


@Sdfahey I totally agree with you It is not that I believein a relativist universe. I believe in absolutes but reallifedoesn't! #ukedchat

20:46:03 @Primary_Ed

Raffle tickets are good. Children get raffle tickets forpositive behaviour. Raffle draw at the end of week to

win prizes. #ukedchat #edchat

20:46:24 @mrpeel

#ukedchat some will only adjust to detention if it meansthey miss something they do enjoy. have chatted to PEdept to work out a good time

20:46:40 @natashakardos@ICTmagic From my experience, no. I think there areother strategies that could be more effective. #ukedchat

20:46:43 @tmeekyRT @ICTmagic: Does out and out bribery work?>> wedon't use cash bribes, but sure it would work #ukedchat

20:46:45 @LangdalePrimary

@eylanezekiel @ICTmagic Didn't Paul Pennyfatheroffer half a crown in Waugh's Decline and Fall 4 longestessay to 'shut them up' #ukedchat

20:46:56 @mrpeel

#ukedchat what constitutes positive behaviour? Wehave a right to expect good behaviour as a courtesy -aswe show respect. better than good

20:47:13 @ICTmagic@its_alastair Good tweet. Can you tweet again with the#ukedchat hashtag?

20:47:21 @ukedchatInterested in hosting a Thursday night #ukedchatsession? Contact @ukedchat for more details.

20:47:25 @SRTeaching

@ICTmagic classmates in a lot of cases are other peersrole models. Powerful teaching strategy. Useclassmates to empower others. #ukedchat

20:47:37 @SparkyTeaching

What do awe and wonder look like in your classroom?Here's our take: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN3l5TkRzBY #ukedchat #ulearn13 Inspired by@mrjkwilson

20:47:44 @ICTmagic@LorraineAbbott7 Interesting ideas. Thanks. @tmeeky#ukedchat

20:47:50 @mattpearson Plenty of low level disruption on twitter most nights,

guess we should sort that before we worry about the

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kids:-) #ukedchat

20:48:21 @Primary_EdSet the bar high. Show your class you care. #ukedchat#edchat

20:48:29 @mrpeel#ukedchat surely bribery is tantamount to admitting

defeat?20:48:38 @ICTmagic

Just over 5 minutes left. Time to tell us what did you gettold off for when you were at school? #ukedchat


@ICTmagic as part of a wider recognition of goodcontribution in class then yes. It's the recognition that isimportant #ukedchat

20:48:46 @Hanna_English

@ICTmagic Intrinsic motivation is a key goal to ensurelearners can sustain focus and determination beyondschool. A real ideal :) #ukedchat

20:49:04 @SRTeaching @ICTmagic extrinsic motivation can only be a short-time fix. To truly develop learners, motivation mustcome from within #ukedchat


@ICTmagic great teachers will capture imaginationwithout rewards initially though. That is 100% correct inmy mind #ukedchat

20:50:57 @ukedchat

Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts?Sign up to the bulletin at http://ukedchat.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=e97344da33f46a7dbb6f16fe4&id=ec47899e39

20:51:02 @mrpeel

@ICTmagic #ukedchat in only 140? cheek, poor mathsand shutting a boy in a cupboard in biology, sneakingout of detention, ...

20:51:24 @tmeeky

@JohnWoottonUK @ICTmagic ...but my gut is thatINTRINSIC motivation is really what we wld all hope toinstil- not always poss tho #ukedchat


@oldandrewuk still trying? it ain't going to happen!working .... and reading other comments in #ukedchat -challenging my own thinking

20:51:31 @passionateaboot

@ICTmagic @ukedchat What if all behaviour is a formof communication - what would behaviour issues becommunicating? #ukedchat


@eylanezekiel @ICTmagic #ukedchat ... Briberysystems are a disgraceful way to solve issues ...Instigators should resign!

20:51:58 @ASTsupportAAli@ICTmagic Got told off for fighting! got suspended!Twice!! #ukedchat

20:52:06 @mrpeel

@JohnWoottonUK @eylanezekiel @ICTmagic

#ukedchat here, here

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20:52:42 @JamesTheo

"What does NOT work is to motivate people with thepromise of a reward." #ukedchathttp://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jmv2boghHzoC&pg=PT3&lpg=PT3&dq#v=onepage&

q&f=false 20:53:16 @LorraineAbbott7

#ukedchat seek to change students Mindsets, plan thisinto lesson. E.g. Dweck

20:53:32 @tmeeky

@passionateaboot: @ICTmagic What if all behaviour isa form of com>so agree. Can't sumtimes immaginewhat some kids av 2 live with #ukedchat

20:54:11 @WholeChildEd

National education success is consistently shown ascorrelated with culture & society's view on education asa priority. #edchat #ukedchat

20:54:23 @JohnWoottonUK #ukedchat ... Read PINK ... Autonomy, mastery andpurpose ... No need for bribery ...20:54:44 @digitalpedpet @ICTmagic For breaking bunsen burners! #ukedchat

20:54:53 @cherrylkd@ICTmagic Stealing the detention book as my namefeatured too heavily in it. Naughty Cherryl. #ukedchat

20:55:01 @jodieworld@ICTmagic correcting the teacher's spelling #ukedchat#geek

20:55:03 @tmeeky

@LorraineAbbott7: #ukedchat seek to change studentsMindsets, plan this into lesson. E.g. Dweck>> TheDweck approach is so simple but pwrful

20:55:12 @JamesTheo @ICTmagic Why? #ukedchat

20:55:21 @tmeeky

RT @JohnWoottonUK: #ukedchat ... Read PINK ...Autonomy, mastery and purpose ... No need forbribery ...>> But in reality for some kids??

20:55:50 @tmeeky

RT @cherrylkd: @ICTmagic Stealing the detentionbook as my name featured too heavily in it. NaughtyCherryl. #ukedchat>> tut tut :)

20:57:04 @oldandrewuk@eylanezekiel #ukedchat Right. You flounced out of anargument to "challenge your thinking". That follows.

20:57:10 @SuzanneCulshaw

@FarNorthEd @ICTmagic #ukedchat don't like losingpoints, keep separate. Possible to get behaviour point &postcard home in same lesson.

20:57:37 @ICTmagic

@JamesTheo Because #ukedchat is discussingbehaviour and after all these years I don't think yourteacher will punish you.

20:57:53 @ukedchat

Thanks to @ICTMagic for hosting this #UKEdchatsession. Do you teach SCIENCE? Next week, we focuson the subject pic.twitter.com/RxHGll5G5h

20:58:29 @rjnicolson Respect is gained by being respectful to everyone -

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colleagues, pupils and parents. Maintaining highexpectations is paramount. #ukedchat

20:59:01 @KasiaFKemp@ICTmagic they all want to copy the SC works a treatall year long from ks1 up to year 6! #ukedchat

20:59:48 @SRTeaching Kasia Fowle Kemp @KasiaFKemp 18m

21:00:28 @ukedchat

It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @ICTmagic for hostingtonights #ukedchat. The archive will be athttp://ukedchat.com/2013/10/10/session-172-strategies-and-tips-to-improve-low-level-behaviour-issues/ .

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