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Page 1: A last kilometer issue in Madrid Serenate Workshop 17-18 September 2002, La Hulpe

A last kilometer issue in Madrid

Serenate Workshop17-18 September 2002, La Hulpe

Jesús Marco([email protected])

Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas

IFCA (Santander) SPAIN

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The Issue Points• CIEMAT is a large spanish scientific installation in

Madrid (Spain), with national & international projects…• with a low bandwidth (2 Mbps) and saturated

connection to the NREN

• RedIRIS central site (Geant node) is also in Madrid, at a couple of kilometers

• How to improve the link?– Organizational questions– Solving the problem

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CIEMATResearch Public Institution attached to the Ministry of

Science and Technology (MCyT)Fields of Activity Fossil FuelsNuclear Fission EnergyNuclear FusionHEP PhysicsRenewable EnergiesEnvironmental Quality

>1000 people (>500 scientists)

Central site in Madrid city: 20 Ha. , 71000 m2 in 27 buildings

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CIEMAT (campus level)>20 departamental servers >650 desktops

Supercomputing infrastructure

Network: 4km optical fiber + cable

23 people in IT department

2Mbps

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RedIRIS Site(NREN)

CIEMAT 3 km

MADRIDRegional/Metropolitan

European Interconnect

National

Three Level Model

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Organizational questions• NREN in Spain:

– RedIRIS takes care of the National Backbone• In process of upgrade to 2.5Gbps, 622,155 Mbps

redundant topology– 17 autonomies, each one with a RedIRIS

connection node, should take care “inside” its domain of the “campus” connection

– CIEMAT in Madrid, but ... central organization• was a Ministry of Industry institution• Now a MCyT institution

– The 2 Mbps link paid by CIEMAT (20keuros/year)– So, new link cost on CIEMAT...

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Solving the problem• CIEMAT solution:

– Discussion and collaboration with NREN: • Antonio Mollinedo(CIEMAT) met Esther Robles(RedIRIS) last year

(in annual RedIRIS meeting)– CIEMAT has opted for a direct fast-ethernet link (now

being contracted, ready by end of the year)• Good possibility in a metropolitan range• Administrative/Legal solution: via a genomic project• Reasonable Cost: 36Keuros

– Other possibilities discussed:• New optical ring (paid by Madrid Community) joining all

academical institutions, and through RedIRIS site• New fast links for Universities, CIEMAT close to the Universidad

Complutense de Madrid campus• UAM (was also at 2Mbps, at 30 km): now radio-link

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ConclusionsDisclaimer: This is only my “experienced” user point of view

(in particular regarding Administrative issues)

• Short Distance makes this problem Outstanding• In fact, the short distance factor (inside metropolitan

area) gives more possibilities for connection…• Organizational issues do weight!

– Legal/Administrative(/Political?) issues• Quite difficult to solve some times (even if cost is not high)

– Collaboration/Support between • Final Users (Feedback and Project Support)• Campus Level Network Responsible & Institution • NREN

Many thanks to Esther Robles and Antonio Mollinedo for the information


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