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David Wilcock on Coast to Coast AM: October 6, 2009

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George Noory (GN): Well, I call him The Thinker: David Wilcock,

professional author, lecturer, film-maker, musician, researcher of ancient

civilizations, consciousness science and new paradigms of matter and

energy.

He is the subject and co-author of the international best-seller, TheReincarnation of Edgar Cayce. Some believe he may BE the reincarnated

Edgar Cayce.

He is also the executive producer of 2012 Enigma; Convergence: The Movie;

and the lead vocalist on Wanderer Awakening, a metaphysical musical.

Ive got to get you to sing on Coast to Coast one night, David. [David laughs]

Were going to do this. Im going to do this. How are you? [laughs]

David Wilcock (DW): I thought you said I was The Thinker.

GN: You are The Thinker.

DW: Youre going to get me to wear more than one hat here.

GN: Youve got that right. Last time I saw you, we had a great conference. I

had a wonderful time. The audience loved you, as they always do. How have

you been?


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DW: Its been quite an interesting ride, George. Its a very dynamic year. I

think everybody has been going through a lot of changes, and this seems to

be a consciousness-field-related effect.

MOVING INTO A ZONE OF HIGHER ENERGY IN THE GALAXY --

INTERPLANETARY CLIMATE CHANGE

DW: You know, my contention has always been that were moving into a zone

of energy in the galaxy that has a much higher energetic charge.

I noticed just now you were mentioning on your opening notes something

about the Spitzer Telescope, or satellite, that has now seen new rings around

Saturn.

GN: Mm-hm. Unbelievable.

DW: They might not have been there before. Were seeing changes in climate

all throughout the solar system. All kinds of new stuff showing up. You cantick off every single planet.

In fact, recently, it was announced that magnetic tornadoes are appearing on

Mercury -- and theyve never seen that before.

You just tick down every single planet. Venus is getting much brighter. Mars

is experiencing global warming theyre actually calling it that youre

seeing cloud formations, ice caps melting.

You go to Jupiter and youre seeing massive changes -- theres a new red spot

forming and things are appearing and disappearing. Therere gigantic storms

showing up. The plasma around Jupiter is getting much more highly charged.


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On Saturn, now we have the new rings. Its also had a massive blast of X-rays

coming out from around the equator.

Then you go out to Uranus and Neptune, both of which are having substantial

increases in storm activity; their brightness is substantially increasing. And,

of course, Pluto is actually experiencing a 300 percent increase in its

atmospheric pressure due to what theyre calling global warming, even

though its moving away from the sun.

So thats kind of the thumbnail of whats happening on a physical level to the

solar system.

MIND IS THE BUILDER

DW: Then you have to remember that the energy thats causing this is totally

a consciousness-based energy. Thats the substrate of all matter in the

universe.

GN: Now, explain that, David. What do you mean by that -- that

consciousness could be creating this?

DW: Well, first of all, you have to dismiss with the idea that there is anything

other than Mind.

GN: All right.

DW: The biggest mystery in the universe is identity.


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The biggest mystery is: What happens when you look in the mirror, and who

are you seeing?

That really is the bottom line. Is there a difference between you and me?

I mean, obviously there is an illusion that were living in. It says that youre

sitting in a studio, and Im sitting in my house talking to you on the phone,

and everybody else out there is listening -- and were all different identities.

But, in truth, we have so much information now to suggest that the building-

blocks of physical matter as we know it are fundamentally conscious. As we

know, in the quantum realm it behaves based on what you expect it to do.

So when we extrapolate from that and then tie in a variety of ancient

prophecy sources, as well as some modern sources from alleged

extraterrestrial intelligence of which I have produced some of those myself

with some pretty astonishing results in terms of predicting the future what

we see is a unified model of cosmology in which the entire universe is built

from the energy of Mind... and that is the basis of all matter.

There is an extensive scientific case that I can make to establish that premise

as valid.

GN: All right. Lets back that up. And also, David, I want to ask you after this if

this strange feeling that so many people are feeling, if this is what youre

feeling as well. But go ahead.

DW: Well, okay. I think the strange feeling is obviously a hyper-dimensionalchange.

BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION SPEEDING UP -- DUE TO A GALACTIC ENERGY


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PROCESS

DW: There are very tangible markers we can look at to prove that, in fact,

evolution is occurring at a rapid speed in humanity. I recently did a Project

Camelot conference called Awake and Aware and we have that video on

my website for free to watch, divinecosmos.com.

People are really jazzed about this video, because I gave away a lot of stuff

that up until now I have only been giving in conferences that people had to

pay to see. But were so close now to where these things are going to start

really happening that Im starting to open up the records and let this stuff go

out, because its just too important not to talk about it.

One of the things I found that really fascinates me is this University of

Wisconsin anthropologist named John Hawks, who studied human evolution

by looking at the actual genetic DNA information available in various fossils

and so forth.

From those archives he was able to conclude that in the last 40,000 years,

the human species has been undergoing what he refers to as supercharged

evolutionary change. In particular, in the last 5,000 years we have beenspeeding up in our evolution so fast that a person from 3,000 BC is more

similar to the Neanderthal than they are to us.

In other words, our evolution has quickened so dramatically that there is a

substantial difference between people now and people 5,000 years ago and

thats genetic, measurable, DNA change.

So then you also look at The Flynn Effect, which Richard Hoagland has alsotalked about. It shows that for at least a century, if not longer, the average IQ

of a human being is increasing by three points per decade.

GN: Thats pretty dramatic, isnt it?


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DW: Its very dramatic, especially when you look at the fact that the IQ scores

that are raising the most are in the category of symbolic, abstract thinking,

not in terms of literacy. So you cant argue that this is the result of people

reading more newspapers, magazines and websites.

It has more to do with our ability to use intuition, which is really what

symbolic abstract thinking is. Its the intuitive connections that we make

spontaneously between disparate things.

[Hawks' evolution discovery, and Flynn's findings about human IQ steadily

increasing, are directly correlated with this movement into a higher zone of

energy in the galaxy. We can measure the energy; we know it's there. We

can meausre it's effects on the entire solar system.

As we've now released in the latest videos, available in the Videos section of

divinecosmos.com, we also see evidence in the fossil record that many other

waves like this have hit us before. Each time, they rapidly upgrade all life on

Earth. They arrive in even intervals of time -- 26 and 62 million years,

respectively.]

LIFE IS BEING SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATED FROM THE GALACTIC 'SOURCE

FIELD'

GN: You know, five years ago, David, I probably would have said, Ahh, I

dont know about all this. But now I think youre right on; absolutely right on.

DW: Well, you've got to realize that you are on the cutting edge. Thisaudience is part of what will become commonplace later on, but right now we

are at the leading edge of this before it becomes common knowledge.

We have been lied to. We have been partitioned from the truth. The people

who have tried to get the truth out in many cases have been paid off,

intimidated or even killed, and this includes many, many deliberate attempts


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to suppress science that starts to take us in the right direction.

As point of fact, you can even go back to the 1800s, to the time of Louis

Pasteur. If you look at a carton of milk and it says Pasteurized...

GN: Thats right. [laughs]

DW: ...thats because Louis Pasteur was the guy who said, Hey, theres

these little critters and you've got to kill them or else its going to make your

milk go bad.

So there was a big scientific conspiracy, of which Pasteur was one of the main

components, to suppress any evidence of what is called spontaneous

generation.

What is spontaneous generation? That means if you take some basic

enzymes that dont really have any biology in them, put them in a little bottle

and then seal it up, little critters start to grow -- in a completely hermetically-

sealed, sterile environment!

GN: Lets pick it up more when we come back.

[To finish this thought, life is being spontaneously generated from the Source

Field. That is provable based on a variety of hard scientific data points we

share in our lectures, to some degree in the free videos, and in our upcoming

book 2012 Enigma: Blueprints for a Golden Age.

First, we demonstrate solid, yet controversial evidence of 'spontaneous

generation.' Then we clearly show how DNA itself arises from a wave in the

Source Field. There is very solid laboratory evidence that existing creatures

can be transformed, in their embryonic state, from one species to another by

nothing more than "wave genetics" -- shining a laser into the embryo that has

the wave information from the DNA of another species.


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Thus, our contention is that this is what is now happening to us. The

interplanetary climate change demonstrates the raw energy from the Galaxy

that is charging up our entire Solar System, as well as ourselves. This new

energy has new wave information that is already reprogramming our DNA,causing us to increase in intelligence and genetic diversity, particularly in the

last 5000 years.]

[COMMERCIAL BREAK]

GN: Welcome back to Coast to Coast. Im George Noory. David Wilcock withus tonight.

David, tell me about these prophetic dreams, as well, that youve been

having.

DW: Well, this is one of the things that really has gotten me very excited.

Obviously we are aware that there are prophecies of 2012.

THE PYRAMID TIMELINE

Just as a segue into the dream thing, let me say that the Great Pyramids

timeline has recently come back into my focus. Most people dont even know

it has one. There is a timeline in the Great Pyramid, and it actually does

resolve to 2012 as being the most important date in the timeline!

This has been studied by Freemasons, and so forth, going back for well over a

century. It involves basically a mathematical code in which each inch -- in

terms of Egyptian inches, which is slightly different than regular English inch

-- corresponds to a year in time.


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The beginning of the timeline is fixed by an alignment between the Pleiades

and the Pole Star [Polaris] as it shines down the descending passage of the

pyramid. The Pleiades in that case is directly overhead while the Pole Star

shines down. That only happens once in the entire [25,920-year] cycle ofprecession.

GN: Mm-hm.

DW: The mathematical code tells you messages. A lot of things have come

through. It tags the exact birth and crucifixion of Jesus. Thats in there very

strongly.

It nails World War I, World War II and lots of things very specifically. It talks in

particular about the era were in as an era of Universal Reincarnation, where

every person whos been alive on Earth is alive now to see this event.

As you start to head into the Kings Chamber, you go through this little

passage where you have to squat down to go through. Theres a big slab of

stone up inside once you go through there. A little carving on that stone is

called The Boss or The Seal it kind of looks like a rising sun and it isactually the symbol of 2012. It appears exactly when 2012 hits in the

timeline.

If you read these books on pyramidology, [such as "Great Pyramid Decoded"

by Peter Lemesurier,] they basically tell you that 2012 is when there will be

the formation of what they call a separate and unique form of society based

totally on allegiance to the spiritual.

[Our upcoming '2012 Event Horizon' free YouTube movie will have all the

most important details.]


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THREE DIFFERENT PROPHECY SYSTEMS CONVERGE ON 2012

DW: So its very interesting to note that you have two different cultures on

opposite sides of the Atlantic -- the Mayan culture and the Egyptian culture.

Both of them have their own highly complex time prophecy systems. Both of

them focus on the exact same date in calendar time -- and this date is very

close by.

[Furthermore, Western astrology tags the shift from the Age of Pisces to the

Age of Aquarius as occurring in 2012 as well -- and even mainstream

astronomers will not dispute this point. So there are three different prophecy

systems that directly point to 2012. We also know 2012 is expected to be the

next solar cycle peak.]

Now, as all this relates to my dreams, we havent really gotten clear as to

what the 2012 date exactly means.

Is it some kind of dimensional shift in which reality as we know it pops into a

different thing entirely?

Is it more of a symbolic statement of a period in time in which rapid evolution

is occurring?

As I was talking about in the first part of the show, we can prove that [rapid

evolution is] happening. We can prove genetically thats it happening. We

can show that the solar system is undergoing very rapid change, which is not

normal.

But what does it really mean in terms of when things will happen... and what

will happen?


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A MASSIVE SHIFT IS IMMINENT -- ECONOMIC EVENT CORRELATED WITH

DISCLOSURE

DW: Ive been getting this increasingly intense series of dreams, for two

years now, which are pointing to the fact that sometime within the next two

or three months, most likely, were going to be seeing some very, very

substantial shifts of society that will be directly paving the way for the

fulfillment of these prophecies.

GN: Thats dramatic. Now, these visions that you saw, what speared it? I

mean, how did these come to you?

DW: Well, these are the kind of dreams that just leave you reeling, because

of the intensity and the importance of whats being said. Ill give you an

example that happened fairly recently.

I had a dream in which I was basically dealing with, for lack of a better term,

the Illuminati, and at first it, seemed like it wasnt that big of a deal. There

was a guy who was trying to steal my wallet and I said: Give me that back,

man. What are you doing? You know. [both laugh]

Then, all of a sudden, this woman showed up, and I dont want to name

names, but she did kind of look like the actress Judi Dench.

GN: All right.

DW: That doesnt mean that shes in the Illuminati or anything, Im just

saying thats who she looked like in the dream.

But she basically walks up to me and her eyes turn red and are like glowing

and beaming this red glow, and basically she was saying, You think youve


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defeated us, but you havent seen anything yet. Were now really going to

pull out the heavy guns. This is it. Youve pushed it too far. Weve had it and

were going to take you out.

GN: And you could be a representative of the United States.

DW: Oh, yeah -- or the world.

GN: Or the world.

DW: You know, humanity in general. [In certain prophetic dreams theindividual self's experiences can be reflective of the whole. However, many

interpret apocalyptic dreams as being predictive of real Earth Changes, when

in fact they are usually describing upheavals in one's own life.]

GN: Exactly.

DW: Its very difficult to say this in a way that makes sense, but the presence

of evil that came when this woman turned, when her eyes turned red, it was

absolutely something that just...

I mean, I was absolutely paralyzed with fear, couldnt breathe, and it seemed

as if time had just slowed to infinitely small amounts of time in one moment.

It was one of the scariest things thats ever happened to me in a dream.

So the intensity of this was huge. Then, immediately after that, myperspective shifted out to space and I saw this giant asteroid which they had

basically maneuvered into position and it was coming in to hit the Earth and

it was going to wipe out life on Earth as we know it.

Now, this does not mean that Im predicating that an asteroid is coming. Its a


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symbol. Its not a literal prediction that asteroids are coming.

GN: Its a symbol for something that is coming.

DW: Its a symbol for an attempt to, shall we say, lighten the load of

planetary population by a substantial amount.

GN: Good point.

DW: So what happened, which is just... I mean, it was so astonishing that it

actually brought tears to my eyes. And again, it sounds Christian, but this isjust one way of many to describe this, but heres what happened:

All of a sudden there was an apparition of Mother Mary that appeared and it

was so huge that her waist was at the cloud-line. This was much, much larger

than any skyscraper. It was so colossal in size that you could have been

hundreds of miles away and still have seen it.

GN: And lets preface this, David. Ive never known you to be outwardly

religious. Maybe Im wrong, maybe you are.

DW: No. I would say that Im spiritual.

GN: Right.

DW: And I would say that I embrace the underlying truth that religions hold,

which is service to others and the importance of one Creator.

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DW: But no, as far as religions go, I think when you start getting into all these

documents being translated and retranslated, and the fact that you have

different ET groups that are giving their philosophies to different people, and

then how those philosophies get interpreted...

There are some that are close to the truth, some that are farther from the

truth, but they all have a grain of familiarity with them once you start

understanding and experiencing what the Creator really is because it is

something you appreciate in the now.

So anyway, Mother Mary is there. What she does is she reaches out and her

hand I focus in on her hand and she literally stops the asteroid with herhand. She gets it halfway slowed down at first, and then she seems to let it

go for a while, then she brings her hand in again, and the asteroid looks like

just a few pieces of gravel in her hand.

Then it basically plops to the ground and its completely inert, doesnt hit the

Earth, doesnt cause any damage, it just kind of plunks down. And it was just

like everybody on Earth had this incredible feeling that the most amazing

miracle had happened.

Now, Ive had other dreams in which I was out on the ocean, Im on a raft

and Ive been on a raft away from a cruise ship, we were just kind of floating

out there and then I see this tsunami showing up. Its like two-, three

hundred feet tall or more.

And again, Im not saying this is a literal prophecy. Please dont misinterpret

this because I know people will misinterpret it if I dont say that.

This is a symbol, because inside a dream every part of the dream is some

aspect of your psyche and some aspect of the WORLD'S psyche. Thats why

so many people think there are going to be these terrible Earth changes,

which may or may not actually happen; they may just be misinterpreting

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But anyway, this was foretelling what appeared to be and what would seem

to be a very, very ominous and nasty event coming our way as a planet. And

Im basically saying, Oh, my gosh, Im going to die because here I am on

this little raft and this wave is coming.

And I basically just hit the deck. I put my face down on the raft and Im trying

to hold my breath in the hopes that maybe I can swim to the top of the water

if it washes over me without crashing on me. Then Im waiting and Im

waiting and I finally cant hold my breath any longer and I have to take

another breath, which I was terrified to do.

I grab another breath and Im waiting again; then I take yet another breath.And I kind of realized, Okay, wait a minute. Theres no way that I couldnt

have already had this wave hit me by now. What the heck happened? I open

up my eyes and now the water is gone and the whole world looks completely

different.

So what Im seeing is... and this is just two of many, many dreams.

Before 9/11, I was getting dreams so redundantly - I was getting dreams ofairplane crashes and economic collapse, and those two things paired

together, over and over again. But what I can say is that I have had 500

percent more dreams talking about this event thats coming up in our very

near future than I ever had about 9/11.

GN: All right, lets talk a little bit about this taking of your wallet in the dream.

DW: Right.

GN: How would you tie this in to the current economic calamity were in? And

also this talk now that is just RAPID; the Arab states are thinking about doing

away with the dollar for oil and now the UN wants to do away with the dollar

as the currency.


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DW: Oh, yeah!

GN: How does this equate with your dream?

DW: There is some astonishing synchronicity between the fact that we had

already booked this show last week and then it was today that the

announcement was made that the international community is basically

wanting to create a basket of currencies to replace the dollar as the global

reserve currency.

Now, in the wake of World War Two there was a financial agreement called

Bretton Woods, which Im sure most of your listeners know about. This was

where the American economy, given how robust it was and there was nothing

else like it, was seen to be that which everyone else would kind of line up

behind and use as their global focal-point.

As Catherine Austin Fitts said in your opening there, this has been something

that various countries have wanted to do away with for a long time. But we

also need to turn the clock back a little further and recognize that it is the

creation of the Federal Reserve System in 1913, which has led to what wenow have as a fiat currency, which means were printing money on hot air

and it doesnt have anything backing it anymore.

GN: Right -- nothing to back it at all, no gold, nothing.

DW: Right. Weve taken off of it being tagged to any actual value. This is a

big problem, because it creates an opportunity for massive inflation andmassive deflation sudden spasms of global commerce which can lead to

severe economic pain and that actually did happen last October.

One of the things that I found so astonishing is that all of the things that are

happening now, and all the things that are starting to happen, have been

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In other words, at this point I dont even really need dreams and intuition to

be making these prophecy statements anymore. All I need to do is some

trend analysis and blending that with the testimony of multiple people who

Im in contact with who are still working on the inside.

Some of them do work for the Illuminati; some of them do work for Majestic;

some of them do work for other black ops agencies.

I am speaking to these people. I dont agree with everything they think, and

Im certainly willing and able to tell them that, but I have been entrusted with

a lot of information.

Unfortunately, the more you get more told, the less you can talk about, but I

can say that what were... [searching for words] How do I say this? The

insiders are absolutely scared out of their wits right now. There is a state of

absolute panic.

GN: Is that why theyre going so fast now?

DW: Yes. Yes. This swine flu thing... And I will say this. Im putting myself at

risk by doing this I would definitely, definitely, definitely think twice before

taking any medication or vaccine associated with the swine flu. If you value

your life, think about it before you do it, please.

GN: Thats pretty strong words, David.

DW: If theres 3.5 billions doses of something thatve been made to be a

certain way, you might not want to be one of those 3.5 billion.

GN: The WHO said today, by the way, that are some complications, but not

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DW: Well, come on! We already have the testimony of Jane Burgermeister

with Baxter Pharmaceuticals putting the actual bird flu into the vaccine and

then saying, Oops, how did that happen?

GN: Yeah. I want to talk to you more about that when we come back. Give us

an overall in just the few minutes we have here before the break then. This

overall impression of this prophetic dream that you had is telling you what?

DW: There is a sequence of events that is about to unfold on this planet

which will at first appear to be the most horrific economic vomiting weve

ever seen. It is a sequence of events that is so terrifying that the insiders

believe that America is going to collapse into total anarchy, cannibalism, andviolence.

That is actually what they believe. I do not believe this, but Im telling you

what Im hearing.

They are absolutely in a massive panic. It is red alarm, full five-alarm fire, top

alert; and its not being talked about in the media at all.

But what is really going on is that their grip on control is about to be broken.

The Federal Reserve is in the process of being dismantled and thats why we

need to get the dollar out of the global reserve currency system, because

that is part and parcel of the breaking of the back of the Federal Reserve.

GN: Do you think because Ive got to tie this in, and I think you have too

the slighting of Chicago for the 2016 Olympics, with President Obamapushing for Chicago, do you think that was a message that they wanted to

send to him that basically said, Were in charge?

DW: Yeah. It basically says: Shut your effing mouth. Stop what youre

doing. Stop trying to mess with us. We will go to any extent possible.


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Its just like that woman in the dream: Oh, you think that youre in control?

Wait a minute. Let me show you what I can do. I can knock out 3.5 billion

people on your planet. I can do this. I can do that.

Well, first of all, I dont think thats going to work. I dont think that were

going to see a massive die-off of the planets population.

But these guys firmly believe and Ive talked to people thatve tried to

explain this to me and tried to make me buy into it they firmly believe that

they are saving the world by getting rid of a lot of people. They think that

without this happening, that if they were to release the free energy

technologies and if they were to tell us about UFOs and extraterrestrials,which they plan on doing, that it would be a disaster, because then youd

have the breeding go way up.

However, what we actually do know is that when a society is allowed to

develop, they in fact have a much reduced birth rate. In fact, if youre below

2.2, you dont have sustainable population growth.

GN: Thats true.

DW: You get negative population growth. And thats whats actually

happening in countries like the U.S. and Japan.

GN: Yes. Its happening primarily in those countries that have more of an

educated population, isnt it?

DW: Youre absolutely correct. The reason why people have so many kids is

because of grinding poverty, lawlessness, and despair. Its a security plan, so

that, as you get elderly, that youre going to have at least one of your kids

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If youre in a society where your basic needs are met and youre not having

to worry about getting your head blown off if you walk out to go to the

bathroom, then youre not going to be in such a need to have 15 children.

That's just a simple scientific fact.

I will point out something else, and that is, that when you talk to people who

are at the very, very highest level where theres no compartmentalization...

And these people are not speaking to guys like Dr. Greer, as far as Im aware.

They dont want to come forward and theyre not going to come forward with

me, either.

But there is a level at which you can find out that we have hundreds and

hundreds of interstellar spacecraft, we have many different bases on many

different satellites [i.e. planets and moons], and there is way more thanenough space to move everybody to somewhere else if conditions on the

Earth became overpopulated. Then it becomes a question of... racism.

GN: Who goes?

DW: Yeah. Who goes? The point of fact is that they have room for everybody,

but they see some of these races as filthy and they dont like these people.They think of themselves as gods and that these other people are not. Its

preposterous.

Again, there is a Management in place, thats what I call it, which is higher

intelligence; much, much higher than even most of the ETs visiting us.

Management, basically, is letting us play these games in the sandbox, but

they wont allow these guys to do any of the big stuff.

Thats what Mother Mary represented in my dream. There are forces that are

much more powerful that will stop these genocidal plans and that will ensure

that what we go through as a planet is a smooth transition.

The thing that excites me so much is how fast some of these changes are


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going to happen. I didnt think we would really see the big stuff until 2012,

but now Im being convinced that thats not the case.

GN: David, when we come back, well talk about the swine flu and also what

you believe will be UFO Disclosure. Thats all next with David Wilcock on

Coast to Coast am.

GN: And welcome back. Weve got David Wilcock and, of course, weve got

you as well. Well take phone calls with David next hour.

David, lets talk a little bit about Disclosure. You truly believe, like Steve

Bassett, it will happen?

DW: I think its inevitable. I think that you cant hold the truth down forever.

What happens is, as a certain critical mass of people become aware of whats

really going on, its a fait accompli, meaning it forces itself to happen just by

the course of events that will naturally unfold.

Now, what seems to be the case is that the Powers That Be at the highest

levels do plan on telling us and they do plan on revealing everything, but as I

said, they feel that, if they did it before there was a massive populationreduction, that it would be catastrophic for the Earth.

GN: Out of control.


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DW: Now, the thing I will tell you is that the Disclosure thing is not so

nebulous.

We have one source, in particular, who has now heard from three different

highly-placed sources in the intelligence community that hes in contact with

these are people who dont know each other and are not speaking to each

other, but they do speak to him and they all have independently told him

that a formal government Disclosure is being planned before the end of the

year.

They all had the exact same date for when this would happen, which I cannot

say what it is. They all had the basic sequence of events that would happen.

Theyre all saying that the television time has already been booked

internationally for a two-hour special.

GN: And now... when you say you cant say the date? Or you wont say the

date?

DW: If I said the date, I could potentially be hurt, [laughs] so Im not going to

say what the date is.

GN: All right. But you know the date.

DW: I know the date.

GN: All right.

DW: Its before Christmas but after where we are now and its definitely... As I

said, the television time has been booked.

If this does happen, its not just going to be something where we are told that


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this is true. Its going to be, Hey, this is true and let me introduce you to

several different members of these other human species who are out there

who, incidentally, look very similar to us with only minor differences.

GN: And here they are? [laughs]

DW: Yes. And here they are. They can speak telepathically but they can also

use the primitive-dialup-modem kind of speaking through their mouth.

GN: Let me preface this. Im going to say that its highly doubtful, but [David

laughs] what are the possibilities that you are a tool of the Illuminati? You

know too much, David.

DW: Its possible. Its always possible. Im not going to be so arrogant as to

expect that people would think that I couldnt have been manipulated.

What I will say, though, is that if you look at my website, and you look at the

consistency of the positive message that Ive been putting out there, and you

look at how Ive been recording my dreams for 17 years...

GN: Well thats why I said its highly doubtful, but it is a possibility.

DW: You know, I think the bottom line is this: Ive finally grabbed a lot of

attention.

As we know, youre going to be on this Syfy special. Richard Hoagland isgoing to be on it, Im going to be on it. Its called 2012: Startling New Secrets.

We now have an actual air time. Its going to be Sunday, November the 8th at

9pm Eastern time, a two-hour special on Syfy. Were all going to be involved

in it and its going to give a lot of this kind of information about 2012 that Ive


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been sharing on the show.

I apparently am one of the most present people in the documentary in terms

of how much time I get. So Im attracting attention.

I also have a major book contract with Penguin, one of the biggest

publishers...

GN: Theyre huge.

DW: Yeah, to write the book 2012 Enigma. The president of Dutton Books,who is also the editor and publisher of Eckhart Tolle, was the one who

contacted me; his name is Brian Tart.

He actually feels that my work is on par with Eckharts and that it deserves to

be as popular as Eckharts.

GN: Thats pretty dramatic, David.

DW: So yeah, the assets of that company are going to be going into this. I

also can now announce that the person Im doing my film Convergence with

is the same guy who wrote the movie Contact, whose name is Jim Hart.

So this is an A-plus Hollywood screenwriter and, Im telling you, if we can get

this film made and I think we will it is going to be the most mind-blowing

Disclosure film, on par with Close Encounters or Matrix or anything like that,that youve ever seen. Its going to be totally incredible.

GN: Youve been plugging away at this for a long, long time.


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DW: Absolutely. Ive definitely come up through the trenches. I spent years

and years in abject poverty.

Finally I have some financial stability now and I thank everybody out there

who goes to conferences and orders products because, you know, this is what

keeps us going.

And I just want to say that we are able to have very spontaneous change

happen. 9/11 DID HAPPEN, okay? It did happen.

Youre sitting there one day and its September 10th, then all of a sudden,

the whole world is upside-down. So, very major, very unusual, and veryoutrageous things can occur it doesnt always have to be negative.

It seems to be impossible to believe that a Disclosure could actually happen.

That the President of the United States would get on television for two hours,

sit you down and basically tell you: Okay. Look, human beings didnt just

evolve on Earth. We dont know if we were here first, or they were here first

or what, but heres several of my closest friends from other planets to

introduce themselves to you.

GN: [laughs] And they come rolling out. Its probably Cheney in costume.

[David laughs]

DW: He doesnt need a costume.

GN: You really think thats going to happen? Like that?

DW: Well, Im not going to stake my whole reputation on it, but look, it all

lines up. When the negative side is about to be defeated, they get really

stupid. Think about Napoleons Waterloo or think about Hitler and Stalingrad.


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What ends up happening is they make dumb moves; they do things too fast

without planning it through and this is what theyre doing with the swine flu

thing. You know, its like, Well, we ran out of time if this Disclosures going

to happen.

I mean, I just want you to grok [Ed. note: fictional word meaning

comprehend from Robert A. Heinleins Stranger in a Strange Land] the fact

that, if the truth comes out, it is bigger than the foundation of Islam; it is

bigger than the foundation of Christianity, because at the time, those events

only reached several hundred thousand people.

This would be the biggest event in human history; the most spontaneous shift

that humanity has ever seen. Everything thats being talked about on the

nightly news right now would pale to insignificance.

Guys like you and me are going to be having the phone ringing off the hook.

Theyre going to want us on every show. Thats not the focal point, but the

point is, everything is going to change in such a dramatic way.

Everybody listening to this has probably had that experience where they first

started to get over the tipping-point and realize, Hey, maybe this stuff istrue. Well, imagine what would happen if the planet is told, and imagine how

bad that would be for the controllers because what theyre seeing is the loss

of their ability to be seen basically by themselves as the gods of the Earth.

GN: All right, well lets go through a scenario here, David.

DW: Okay.

GN: That all the masses are still here. I want you to tell us, in your own mind

of course, if Disclosure occurs when were all on this planet still nothings

happened to the masses what happens to us? How do we react?


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Explain what happens to economies, to world governments, to religions. Just

go through it from the announcement stage.

DW: Its so vast and theres so many probability vortexes its hard to really

nail it down, but I will say that its going to rock the foundations of the world. I

would say that we will have some very dramatic economic changes which

probably are not negative.

There will probably be a fair number of people who will be so stunned that

they wont want to go to work for a while, but I dont think thats going to be

a long-term problem. I think thats one of the things the planetary elite is the

most concerned about is that the people would just stop working.

But I do think that its going to be such a massive change that any movie that

has been made before this happens, any television show that was written

before this happens, any magazine, any website that was written before this

happens will become irrelevant on some levels.

GN: All outdated.

DW: Because everything that we ever say, everything that we ever think, will

be completely based on this.

If we know that there are other humans out there and that were not the only

game in town, and we suddenly realize that aliens are not these scary

horrible insect-like creatures, but theyre people like us, it means our family

is a lot bigger than we think.

I think in many ways it would reaffirm faith and world religions because now

you realize that every ancient religion has reports of people who look like us,

who can do very amazing stuff, and come here and basically teach us how to

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GN: Well, David, what if they dont look like us? What if we look like them?

DW: Well, it becomes six-of-one, half-a-dozen of the other. Once you get into

the science that Im going to talk about on the television show on Syfy, and in

the movie, and in the book 2012 Enigma, youre going to see that the galaxy

itself is responsible for writing the code of DNA and the human design is a

galactic intelligent design.

GN: I think youre absolutely right. As a matter of fact I was telling Seth

Shostak from SETI many months ago, and then many years ago locally when I

was talking with him, that the primordial soup in the universe is the same all

over the place.

DW: Absolutely. Theres so much evidence that supports this and thats

going to become the dominant thing that everybodys going to look at.

GN: There are dogs, there are raccoons, there are people, there are similar

creatures on other planetary systems.

DW: I mean, think about it: everybodys going to have pants; everybodysgoing to have socks, underwear; everybodys going to have shirts, probably

button-down shirts. Theres going to be a lot of similarities.

Theyre going to have musical instruments brass, woodwinds, drums,

guitars. These things become obvious.

In fact, things like musical instruments and things like clothing may be part of

the Mind of the galaxy. Its like we naturally tap in, just like animalsinstinctively know what the predators are; even if theyve never seen one

before, they automatically crouch when the predator bird flies overhead.

They just know.

GN: If they disclose, one of the questions I would ask if they invited me


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there, lets say is: How did you get here? What form of propulsion system

did you use?

Because if they have now developed an incredible propulsion system and

we know they did, whether they bend space and time the point is that

theyve now created free energy. Theyve been able to tap into it.

And so my follow-up question will be: When do we start using it? When do we

get free electricity, free fuel to heat? When do we get this? What will they say

then?

DW: Its bursting out at the edges already. Theres a technology invented byPaul Pantone called GEET, [spells] G-E-E-T.

GN: Yes. We had Paul on the show.

DW: Oh, you did? Okay, I didnt know about that.

GN: When he got out of jail, yeah.

DW: Yeah. I mean, you can run an engine on 80 percent water, 20 percent

gas, with very, very little modification. The fact is that free energy

technologies have existed for a long time. There are actually other guys who

have invented 100 percent water/hydrogen engines that dont need any gas.

We have plenty of technologies. Im personally aware of free energyinventors who have devised systems that dont even have moving parts

they just sit there and they work.

The fact is the only reason why this stuff hasnt gotten out there is because

the faction thats on the American side, the so-called New World Order


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Rockefeller side, has been actively going around killing everybody who tries

to get this out there and/or buying them off and/or threatening them and

making them shut up.

GN: Did you hear that the head of part of the financial wing of the Rockefeller

group killed himself a few weeks ago?

DW: Yes. This is the kind of thing... Yes, its a very good point, George. Thank

you for mentioning that.

GN: It's a bizarre story and theres been no follow-up anywhere, David.

DW: Well look, again, all this stuff is happening because were right on the

verge of them having a major defeat. Im aware of three completely different

scenarios in which Disclosure could happen at a major, major level.

Even in your opening announcements, you were talking about the

Rendlesham Forest sighting and how the UK is now putting it right on the

front page of their magazines and stuff, that, Hey, Rendlesham might have

been a tourist from an extraterrestrial civilization just stopping by to pay us avisit.

So, theyre doing as much as they can to get people ready so that, when the

truth is revealed, society will basically hold together.

Now, I think if Obama were to make this announcement on national television

and it goes all over the world and if he introduces us to these other people...

GN: Well, why do you think itll be just him? Why not done on the level of the

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DW: It could be. Yeah, its a horse race. Its going to be somebody, and at this

point I think I think its really a question of who wins, who gets to break the

story first.

Ive heard of three completely separate ways in which Disclosure could

happen, and one of them I really cant say anything about at all because Id

be getting in major trouble. But lets say that...

GN: David... David, youre already in major trouble. [David laughs] Youve

said too much already.

DW: Its funny because I had one of these very high-ranking witnessesstaying in my house over the last two weeks and we were talking about this

stuff in the house and then my housekeeper was there and she flushed the

toilet in the upstairs guest bedroom, which hadnt been used in a while, and

water just started pouring out of the kitchen ceiling, just pouring out. And it

turns out that the entire... its an iron pipe about four inches wide that comes

out from the toilet.

GN: It broke. It cracked.

DW: It busted open like a banana. Now, iron doesnt do that.

GN: Welcome to home ownership, David.

DW: But... Well, if it was a message, somebody saying, Stop the leaks, you

know, Dont leak the crap, so to speak.

GN: Well, it could be a coincidence. Of course, you know I dont believe in

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DW: Well yeah... it was a funny coincidence. You know, the universe has a

sense of humor.

But, no. I will say without getting into any hot water here that one of the ways

this might happen would be from industry, a very large industry that would

realize that if they were able to build these things that they could have a

massive, massive, massive profit boom. They may be wanting to do a

Disclosure just for the sake of how it would benefit them financially.

You also have to consider the fact that Benjamin Fulford, the former East-

West editor for Forbes Magazine, came in contact with a group in Japan that

claims to be part of an opposition force. I have been in contact with Fulford

and Ive actually spoken now to at least one of the people that is responsible

for telling him the things that he heard.

GN: What do you mean opposition force? To the Illuminati?

DW: Opposition to the Illuminati / New World Order agenda.

GN: Well, thats pretty risky on their part, dont you think?

DW: Well, yes and no. I mean, they have a great deal of assets of their own.

They have a very substantial militia, so to speak, and the ability economically

and politically to effect great change.

GN: But I always thought, David, which people with unlimited resources -- all

of them end up the same way, that this becomes a game of power, of

manipulating the human race. So I would question what their motives arebecause I would think that theyd be in line with the Illuminati.

DW: Well, thats like saying that if a kid goes out trick-or-treating, that every

person who gives them Halloween candy, theres going to be needles or LSD

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GN: No, no, no-no-no-no-no. Im saying that theres an evolution of wealth

and when people get to the point where they earn so much money that they

dont become how should I say? loving of humanity. I think they become

evil.

DW: I would concur that in many cases that is the case, but I would also say

that there are exceptions to everything and any type of broad-stroke

generality like that is fraught with logical errors. I think that theres always

going to be exceptions.

You know, most of the rest of the world really doesnt want this genocidal,

crazed initiative to take place. A lot of the other countries... because theseIlluminati / New World Order countries, the old white European monopoly, has

stopped creating things of value. Its all based on just, Hey, lets run the

printing press.

So, whats happening is that countries like China, India and in South America,

theyre actually creating value, theyre creating commodities, and in so

doing, theyve now gained a dramatic economic advantage. They dont have

the same type of genocidal aspirations that people from these European

countries at the highest levels do. Its just a different mentality.

I think that especially if you look at the Asian mindset, there is a difference in

the Asian mindset which is much more collective in its focus. They look at

whats going to benefit the collective more than just the individual.

GN: Well now you know why we call David Wilcock The Thinker. Well be

back with more on Coast to Coast AM, including his thoughts on why he

believes this DNA is the same everywhere throughout the universe. ImGeorge Noory. Back in a moment on Coast to Coast AM.


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GN: David, give us your take, first of all, on DNA, before we take it out into

the universe.

DW: Well, DNA has been proven to be a conduit for a nonphysical energy.

This is a very important point.

If you look at the Einstein model of space and time, what we realize is that as

you move through space, you also move through time. Space is not just this

empty thing.

If you go really fast through space up to light speed, youre also going

through time in a way that changes your perception, so that you might only

think its a week, but on Earth its been a thousand years.

That shows on a fundamental level that space is not just this empty thing;

theres something in there.

Well it goes a lot further than that because, as Ive said before, the Russians,

specifically Dr. Peter Gariaev, did an experiment where he takes a piece of

DNA, sticks it in a little test-tube where it can absorb light and you can

measure the light that it absorbs.

In fact, DNA will take all the stray photons in the area and spiral them

through the molecule. Its like a light absorber. It actually has a vortex-type

of effect that pulls in all the surrounding light into itself.

Then the thing is that you can take the DNA out of the tube and the light will

continue to spiral as if the DNA were still there for up to 30 days. Even if you

blast it with liquid nitrogen, it comes back within about six to eight minutes

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So, what is this force thats holding the light in place when the DNA isnt even

there anymore?

If youre sitting there right now listening to the show and during the

commercial break you got up and went to the bathroom and then you came

back, this is saying that some part of your DNA is still there in the chair and it

will on a very subtle level be changing the way that the light is moving

through the room.

Its a very substantial discovery and what it ultimately shows us is that our

physical body has an energetic pair that is very similar to... it has the same

structures in place, and that is actually more of who we really are than thephysical body.

The physical body is like a projection of the spirit and the spirit is, in fact, a

holographic duplicate of the physical body, but that is actually where most of

your thought processes are taking place. Anything involving real thinking or

the higher intellect is happening in the energy body.

Thats why when the energy in the solar system is amping up, as we showedyou that it is, it simultaneously is amping up human intelligence. Human

intelligence is based on an energy pattern. When the frequency, when the

vibration of that energy increases, so will your thoughts move faster, so will

you appear to become more intelligent.

DNA, again, is a conduit for this energy of the soul, and there is an energetic

pair to it thats what we have as an astral body, as some call it.

GN: So, you believe that this DNA travels throughout the universe its

everywhere which then means that similarities may abound.

DW: Oh, yeah. I mean, one of the guys that founded the DNA molecule, Dr.

Francis Crick, took a look at all the dust in the galaxy and found that 99.9


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percent of all the dust he could find had the light signature of bacteria in

space; so its no different. That means that most of the stuff thats out there

is actually living stuff.

It also means that we now have an explanation for why bacteria have been

found growing inside nuclear reactors, inside volcanoes, miles below the

surface of the ocean. Everywhere you look, you find bacteria and thats

because life is just going to form wherever and however it can. Its an

intelligent pattern. Matter is built to make life.

The scientists that are finding this call it The Goldilocks Principle and they

explain that all over the universe, the conditions are just right for life to

occur, like the Earth and elsewhere.

GN: Lets talk a little bit about what you believe is happening in the universe

and the solar system as well. You believe that theres going to be some kind

of galactic wave or energy field coming in.

Is it going to blast us? Is it going to knock out communications, David? Whats

going to happen?

DW: Well, that may occur. But to make it a clearer point here, I would

propose that this is something that has been well underway for some time.

Its not like were waiting for something that isnt already happening.

You look at the massive, exponential progression of human civilization over

the course of the last several hundred years, and how Benjamin Franklin

basically was the guy who invented the closed stove, just to have burners

and not be cooking over an open fire.

So were only talking about a few hundred years ago that we were basically

cooking over open fire, and we didnt have electricity, and we didnt have

machines that made it easier to do all the basic things that we do, like

washing our clothes, and refrigerating our food, and having electric lights so


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we can read at night, and being able to talk over the Internet and over the

telephone. This is all brand new stuff, relatively speaking.

The threat is whether we have evolved to a level as a species where we can

handle these toys without destroying the planet.

The galactic wave, specifically, seems to be part of an intelligent design that

energetically pushes us to the next level and it really is a question for

everyone of whether youre harmonizing with the change or not.

Now, I can go into science and physics and tell you very specifically about

how we can measure these waves, where they are and what they are, so Illdo that just a bit because that was the essence of your question.

GN: Sure.

DW: If you look at other galaxies... There was a scientist, Dr. William Tifft,

who did whats called a red-shift study. And red-shift is really nothing more

than a frequency of microwave vibration.

What he found was that, even though red-shift is supposed to indicate

distance in conventional astrophysics, he saw that there were multiple layers

of red-shift within single galaxies, where the values of the microwave

frequency get much more intense at the center of the galaxy, and that in

even intervals, in layers that are concentric circles, they get less and less

intense by mathematically precise values as you go towards the outside.

He demonstrated that those galactic fields are out there; he proved that theyexist. And we have hundreds and hundreds of galaxies that have been

observed mostly by college students working on their PhD, because the

mainstream is just stuffing this down but it proves that these galaxies have

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Then I turn you to the work of Dr. Harold Aspden [spells name], who basically

has rewritten science and physics by using the original Maxwell electrical

equations that everybody believes is true; nobody disputes it. Now, the

Maxwell equations, he basically postulates a sort of an ether, this idea of a

non-seen energy field that underlies electromagnetism, but is not

electromagnetic.

What Aspden was able to do was to retool the Maxwell equations, shuffle

them around in ways that are plausible and he tells you exactly how he does

it, and he found that this ether has different levels of frequency and that they

would have certain microwave signatures that we would be able to measure.

Well, he was absolutely astonished because when he looked at Tiffts data, he

found that the galaxies are giving off exactly the same microwavefrequencies that he mathematically discovered by monkeying around with

Maxwells equations.

That is an astonishing discovery; putting those two things together. Its

something I found in the year 2000.

Its hard to explain, but it is the smoking gun that shows that there aregalactic energy fields, that they do refer to, for lack of a better term, planes

of existence, because these different frequencies of this ether basically

represent different levels of reality.

So as this energy comes into the solar system, what is it doing? We can see

what its doing. Its making the planets get hotter and brighter and more

magnetic. Theres a lot more dust coming into the solar system. The suns

magnetic field has shrunk by 25 percent from all the outside pressure.

One of these insiders has told me that theyre actually out there with some of

these spaceships that they have this is our guys, now, this is not ETs that

theyve gone out there and theyve looked at this wave coming in. They

basically are seeing a time window of 2012 to 2107 in which they believe

theres going to be some very dramatic changes on the Earth, which they

think are basically unavoidable and will be, for lack of a better term,


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cataclysmic.

Now, again, this is not what I have been shown. This is not what I think is

going to be happening. I think that these changes are more intended to break

the shell that weve built around our hearts.

The idea of Armageddon and Apocalypse is something that startles us into

attention, so that we get back on track with what being human is really

about. We are a projection of the Creator, we are spiritual beings having a

physical experience, and theres only one of us here, ultimately.

So, if you really get down to what the highest-level ETs are saying, the onesthat are right before the level where they basically start to reunify with the

universe and no longer deal with anything other than the One Infinite Mind,

theyre pretty unified in their perspective.

The source that I consistently draw on the most, of course, is The Law of One.

Ive talked about this before; I have extensive data on it on my website,

divinecosmos.com.

What I can tell you is that this data really rocked my socks off because I

found it in 1996. It was allegedly channeled. Usually I dont put any credence

on channeling. I think most of it out there is largely peoples conscious mind

with maybe a little bit of real stuff to just spice it up.

But this source is different than that. This source actually leaked a whole

bunch of stuff that we didnt know in 1981, but now with the benefit of time,

has been proven scientifically correct. So almost everything that I talk about

in terms of galactic energy fields, and the change of the Earth, and 2012, andall that stuff, was in these books in 1981.

And all these whistleblowers keep coming forward. They tell us, for example,

Sgt. Clifford Stone saying that of the ETs that are visiting us and crashing

their ships, that weve found 57 different varieties and they all basically look


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human.

Well, that also was in The Law of One back in 1981. They said theres 53

basic civilizations visiting us, and theres also six more that are negative, that

happen to be visiting us; and thats right around the same number.

So when you start combining all these things together, Im left with the

conclusion that we actually are being given accurate information. The Law of

One is one example where ETs actually did get a nice clear station and were

able to speak for a few years and tell us what they really think and whats

really going on.

What theyre saying is that our planet is being managed. They said there

was a quarantine around the planet, and we now know from whistleblowers

that that is true.

In fact, its a very difficult problem because the Van Allen Belts basically have

an impenetrable shield that prevents things from getting in and prevents

things from going out. You need very advanced exotic technology to be able

to get through this quarantine.

Apparently that quarantine was put in by high-level ETs to basically stop bad

guys from being able to get in here. The Law of One series basically says

that, on certain occasions, there are random windows where they can get in

temporarily, and those random windows are only allowed to occur because

we as a species, as human beings, have a certain degree of negativity in our

own minds, and that invites a certain degree of negativity to come in.

Also, they explain that the Earth changes are a projection of our owncollective psyche, that when we are sick in ourselves, the planet has to mirror

our sickness by showing us volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, tidal waves, etc.

GN: See, I always thought, David, that this was possibly the planets way of

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DW: Yeah. If theres too many people on the planet, I think the planet will

take care of it on its own. We certainly dont need people like the Illuminati or

the New World Order trying to do it for the planet.

GN: Thats true.

DW: But on the other hand, as Ive said before, I think that if there is going to

be cataclysmic activity, it may very well be that we will not be experiencing

the same frequency as where that cataclysm occurs. I think some people

might.

Now bear in mind, there are vast, vast facilities underground. Ever since the

U.S. government started to hear about this around World War Two, and other

governments as well, there has been a massive, massive subterranean

construction project in place.

Multiple bases with all sorts of what they call sub-shuttle systems that

connect them together. There are off-planet bases as well, on the Moon, on

Mars, and elsewhere. And they are preparing for this big thing to happen.

GN: According to Richard Sauder these are thousands of feet deep as well.

DW: Oh, yeah. Theyre so far down that, if youre on an elevator going top

speed, you can jump and youll actually hover in the air because of how fast

youre moving down. Theyre miles and miles down, in some cases, and

theyre absolutely enormous.

In fact, in many cases, they found old bases that other ETs had put here long

ago that they were able to break into and basically refurbish. Thats also

whats happened, apparently, with Mars and with the Moon and other places

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If you start getting into the idea that humans are pretty common in the

galaxy... In fact, The Law of One series tells us there are 67 million planets in

the galaxy with people on them like us, at various times right now, in our

current present time and thats a staggering number.

Of course, many of these planets are probably somewhat primitive; theyre at

various stages of evolution, but therere still going to be a relatively

substantial number that get past the crisis-point that were in now, are able

to achieve interstellar travel...

And beyond interstellar travel, theyre able to achieve wormhole travel,

meaning that they can use traversable wormholes and basically travel

through space without having to actually make any distance; theyd just go

from one place to another.

GN: Like the movie Contact.

DW: Exactly. So, what were seeing now is a convergence of all these

different threads of information that Ive been collecting for so long, and

finally some of these insiders are actually sitting down and talking to me,

sometimes in person, sometimes over other methods, and I have learned somuch. [laughs] So much more that I know now than Im allowed to talk about.

But everything you can imagine is out there. Every type of human you can

imagine is out there, good, bad, and indifferent. There are artifacts

everywhere. Its just staggering how stupid we are compared to what there

really is.

Our guys have found so many pieces of technology that theyve either justburned, or buried, or dumped into the ocean, or locked up in warehouses,

and any one of them could be the Rosetta Stone that would completely

change this planet if they were investigated. But theres so much redundancy

that they just cant even spend the time to look at this stuff.


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There are so many different compartments within the cover-up and each of

these compartments are working on technologies on their own, in many

cases without access to other programs working on the same stuff. Its really

quite laughable, but there is a level at which everybody has... and this is the

people on our planet, now.

GN: Right.

DW: Now bear in mind, it gets smaller and smaller. Were literally talking

about theres probably only about 90 people who know most of whats going

on, and then theres a subset within those people of maybe 15 to 25, and

theyre the ones who really know whats going on.

But theyre only the managers on Earth working with many other people who

have since moved off-planet and are involved in ships that are in space,

bases on other planets and bases under the ground.

Theres tons and tons of people that are working in these other programs,

many tens of thousands of people that are no longer in any type of

conventional society as we would think of it, but were born here and are

working in these other programs And theyre working with other humanbeings.

GN: When remote viewer Ingo Swann said he saw structures on the Moon,

what do you think he saw, David? Do you think he saw alien or do you think

he saw ours?

DW: Well, they could be ours from people of our future who were able to

time-travel and then went back in time and built things back then.

The funny thing is that when you get into this technology Im talking about,

some of the bases that our guys are working on are actually in the future.

They actually travel to the future to do their job and then they come back to

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Like, for example, Henry Deacon actually went and looked for where he was

working on Mars on the Mars map and found that the base wasnt there

where he knew that it would be; he knew what it should have looked like and

it wasnt there.

Well, other insiders Ive talked to have now validated everything that Henry

Deacon is saying as true, and theres even more than what he said is true.

Of course, the Henry Deacon testimony is something Ive written about

extensively. Ive had more contact with him than anybody else. Ive actually

spent some 80 hours in conversation with him now. Hes told me a lot of stuff

that I havent said, but a lot of his testimony has been put out there.

And again, theres hundreds of different human species that our guys are

interacting with out there. It only is 57 that happen to have crashed on Earth

and are showing enough interest in us to actually be zipping around.

GN: What do you think of the theories of Ed Grimsley?

DW: Please explain.

GN: Ed believes that there is a war going on and he claims to see them with

night-vision goggles.

DW: Thats absolutely true. Infrared and ultraviolet will allow you to see

things that are just outside the range of our physical senses and there isdefinitely a war going on.

In fact, one of the groups is the so-called Anunnaki which are basically... they

appear to be reptilian humanoids. And again, this is probably going to make a

lot of people laugh but, some of the species that evolve on some planets do


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appear to evolve through a reptilian lineage. It does seem that most of those

species tend to be more inclined to dominate and control rather than to be

cooperative and service-to-others oriented.

GN: Well, and as David Icke has always said, some of those probably are

here. Some of our families, our very elite families, have a lineage from the

reptilians.

DW: Well... [sighs] Boy, I dont know how much I can say here. I didnt believe

any of this stuff and I dont even like talking about this because I didnt want

to believe that reptilians existed.

Now, Henry was always saying that he did meet the Anunnaki and theyre

very tall, theyre like 14, 15 feet tall, but they wear masks.

GN: Lets pick that up... Why do they wear masks? Because theyre reptilian!

Lets talk about that and take phone calls next.

Okay, lets get some of your thoughts, David, on what people can do to

enhance their own intuitive abilities.

DW: Well, I think this is a very important question because as were going

through these changes as a planet, were also seeing that there is a need to

be prepared for potential disruptions to our continuity of life. Im not saying

theres going to be catastrophes. Thats one of the areas in which I differ with

probably a lot of people who study this.

But I do feel that there are going to be a lot of localized problems. I mean, ifyou were in Hurricane Katrina, for example, you very much had a local

problem. So I do think its good to have your stored food and to have some of

your money in a solid asset like gold or silver.

I think its important, though, to be able to have conscious contact with your


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intuitive ability, because thats how Ive been able to get to where I am; I use

that guidance consistently.

So, as point of fact, the most important thing to remember is that your mind

is the universal Mind. You do have access to this universal consciousness

within your conscious mind. Your conscious mind is not something separated

from the universal Mind.

But in order to allow the universal Mind to be the predominant force that is

thinking, you have to quiet down the mind that is created by your body and

thats best done by seeking for the quiet point in yourself through meditation.

So mediation is and always will be the central bottom line of how best to

approach this intuitive faculty.

Now, there are a lot of methods that you can use if youre getting started,

various forms of divination such as cards that you can use, you know, Tarot

cards.

You can basically read the cards by charging them up with energy. You hold

each card and you look at it and you study its meaning, and then that card

will carry your energy signature so that later on, when you ask yoursubconscious a question, you can pick the card that feels right to you and it

will be the one that you pick because it has the charge on it.

Another trick that you can use is bibliomancy, particularly if you have a book

that is loaded with inspirational material. You can hold the book between

your hands and ask a question and then, with your eyes closed, open up to a

particular page, and even put your finger on a particular spot, and then just

see whats there when you read it. You may have some very surprising things

happen when you do that.

My personal favorite of all the various forms of divination is dreams. I think

that we, as a general rule, are wasting a tremendous amount of useful

information.


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In fact, I propose that every dream you have is like a treasure chest filled

with wonder from your higher self. If you can go in and remember your

dreams, then the key is to write them down, document them, and study them

with the understanding that every symbol, every character, every situation,

every environment, is yourself.

So thats why I tell people when you have dreams where theres tidal waves

or volcanoes or earthquakes, dont believe that that means the Earth is going

to have those things happen. It means that you yourself are going to be

having a major disruption.

Now, all of the ancient mystery school teachings and all the ancient wisdom

teachings and religions all agree that in order to get to a greater point of

intuitive access, you basically end up transcending what you would call theego, or the personality-self. This means that a part of yourself is very

identified with the body; it wants to seek the comfort of the body, the

security of the body, and as a result it is predominantly materialistic in its

focus and thats okay. We all have to have some of that.

But as you can expand your perspective and take in a more universal vision

of what it really means to be yourself and what it really means to be alive,

youll see that ultimately all the things Im telling you are true, that there are

many, many, many intelligent species in the universe because the universe isbuilt of Mind, and consciousness is the underlying substrate for why anything

exists.

So thats the great mystery, and when you can resonate with that mystery by

approaching that still point within yourself, using things like cards or your

own dreams, or any of a variety of means...

Synchronicity is another one that you can pay attention to. People are

starting to notice more and more, like theyll see 3:33 on the clock or 11:11

and it will happen right when they were thinking about something important.

GN: Absolutely.


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DW: People ask me all the time: Well, what does this mean? The answer is

always the same.

Basically what you want to do when you see one of those is ask yourself,

What was I thinking right before this happened? and that will be the

answer. Its going to flag whatever you were thinking and tell you that that

was an important thought that youre on the right track with.

These are just a few of the things I do have in my weekend workshops that I

do... a whole dream-sharing circle that were now doing on Sunday. What I do

is I have people from the audience actually give me their dreams and then I

basically crack them down.

Actually, Id love to do a show like that on here at some point, George, where

we just have people call in with their dreams and Ill just crack them down

and analyze them.

GN: That would be interesting.

DW: Yeah. Its very useful.

GN: Okay, lets go to the calls now, David. Well go west of the Rockies,

Kingman, Arizona. Sage is there with us. Hey Sage, youre on with David

Wilcock.

SAGE: Hello George, hello David, how are you guys this morning?

DW: Very well, thank you.

SAGE: My question is: I had read a book by Barbara Hand Clow, and towards


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the end of the book, she was talking about what you had just said earlier,

about us being under quarantine, about our planet being under quarantine?

DW: Mm-hm.

SAGE: And she was talking to the effect that coming up to 2012, depending

on events that take place here on our planet, that the quarantine could

possibly be lifted.

DW: Yeah. You have to understand that there absolutely is going to be a shift,

at which time there will be much more galactic diplomacy than there is now.

I do think, though, that its also important to point out that, as the Earth

moves into what the Law of One and other sources refer to as Fourth

Density, there is going to be a prolonged period in which the planet is

positive in nature, exclusively, and it will not permit those of negative

orientation to be here.

Now, its my understanding that the reason why theyre kept out is because

there are going to be people who are basically fighting on the front lines tomake sure they dont get in.

Whether that means the quarantine will still be in place or not, I dont know. I

think its different than the quarantine, though, because the quarantine

basically keeps everybody out. So I think this is going to be more like a battle

thats going to be fought to basically stop these guys from getting in.

SAGE: Okay. And I also had another question and it kind of pertains to a ladythat was on recently about intent.

DW: Okay.


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SAGE: Ive been reading a lot of books by Sylvia Browne that we can create

with our minds and our thoughts.

DW: Yeah. Actually, Sylvia Browne is published by the same guy thats

publishing me, Brian Tart, Dutton Books. So youre saying create with our

intent. Now is there a particular question in regards to that? Would you like

me to just talk about that subject some?

SAGE: As far as like, you know, protecting ourselves from viruses and just

negative... negative, um... Sorry, Im a little nervous. [laughs]

GN: Thats okay. Go ahead, David.

DW: Thats quite all right. Yeah, its a very interesting point, actually, because

we fundamentally learn that viruses are frequency-based. Most of the viruses

have a geometric structure and that geometry can translate into a wave

function.

Theres a Russian scientist named Vlail Kaznacheyev say that three times

fast and he basically found that he could take hermetically-sealed cells thatwere healthy and then zap them with energy, just on a light-wave, from cells

that were diseased, and the healthy cells in the hermetically-sealed container

would acquire the disease.

Now there is something that stops that from happening to us because

otherwise, wed be getting every virus there was. The shield is basically the

energy body, and what keeps that shield working perfectly and fully intact is

when your mind is in harmony with the Universal Mind, which means that

youre in a state of uplifting gratitude for your life and for other people, andyoure in a state of peace and tranquility.

Its when we allow ourselves to get stuck in stress and anger that we lose

that protective shield and we become susceptible to illness and to dis-ease,

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So, intent is very important. Intent is the underlying essence of health and of

how we actually experience reality. The more that we focus on a particular

outcome, the more that is the outcome that we will meet with in our daily life.

GN: David, before the break we were talking about reptilians...

DW: Yeah. I didnt want to drop that thread. Thank you for bringing that back.

Its very important to point out that I do not believe that these world elites

are shape-shifting reptilian creatures. I didnt get to say that at the end of the

last break.

However, what I will say is that it has also been explained to me by some of

these insiders that all of us on Earth, everyone, has some of this reptilian

genetics in our DNA. Because basically the Anunnaki reverse-engineered the

existing humans on this planet and upgraded them with their own DNA to

some degree, and there are some problems that I cant go into details about

with the physical human body that are actually directly attributed to the

reptilian genetics that we have.

Now, what I can say on top of that is that these reptilians seem to think that,

because they tinkered with our DNA and then other ETs have come in and

given us various pieces of their DNA as well, they think that they have

somehow designed us and that they are, therefore, the gods of us. What they

dont realize is the galaxy designed the DNA; the galaxy is still evolving us.

One of the most interesting things I heard from these insiders in regards tothe Anunnaki is that these Anunnaki are actually extremely terrified of us

because we have the potential to be much more powerful than they are as

psychics, and this is something thats starting to happen.

They do appear to be the secret group that is basically manipulating the

Illuminati on Earth. Youve got to remember, no matter how high-ranking


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anybody is on Earth, they are under the boot of others who are

extraterrestrial in nature, basically. And those extraterrestrials, in turn, are

under the boot of even higher-level negative extraterrestrials.

Then, of course, all of those are just like children in the sandbox who can

totally be stopped by what I call Management; the higher positive forces

out there that are much more vast in their potential. These are the kind of

guys that can basically move an entire solar system around just like we would

roll a marble down the table.

GN: [laughs]

DW: [laughs] So you have to understand that the protective forces or what I

call Management Management will not allow the planet to be destroyed.

They will not allow the planet to fall into the negative. They are protecting us

as we go though this evolutionary process.

The game is this: They are here to ensure that the planet has an even

balance between whether you want to seek the positive or whether you want

to seek the negative, so that, at any point, wherever you choose to put your

focus is what you will see.

In order to keep that balance, they have to make sure that things never get

too awful on the planet and thats why they would stop a nuclear war. They

would stop any attempt for mass genocide. They would stop a worldwide

economic collapse.

None of these grandiose doom and gloom prognostications will happen

because we are here to have a spiritual experience and these higher-levelETs will ensure that that experience can proceed unmolested.

GN: All right, lets go to Aaron in Chesterfield, Indiana. Aaron, go ahead.


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AARON: Namast, everybody. How are you doing?

DW: Very well, Aaron, thank you.

AARON: Great. Okay. This is a dream I had about eight months ago. Its

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