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Two Questions for TodayDoes God Doubly Elect?

Is there such thing as a Carnal Christian?

So, there you go . . . Have a good weekend!

Does God Doubly ElectThe Question is: does God predestine some

to salvation and Heaven AND predestine the others to condemnation and Hell?

This is first a philosophical issueIt seems the logical end of election

The Scriptural approach would indicate a clear: NO

The ground of discrimination that exists

among men is the sovereign will of God and that alone; but the ground of damnation to which the reprobate are consigned is

sin and sin alone.

John Calvin

Some termsPredestination and election are relegated

to the savedThis is the nature of the term elect, that it is

biblically referring to those God has savedThe nature of the term in language is that it

is a choosing out of and a leaving of the rest

Reprobation is relegated to the lostReprobates is what men areThey are not elected so, they are left so

Moreover, Holy Scripture most especially highlights this eternal and undeserved grace of our election and brings it out more clearly for us, in that it further bears witness that not all people have been chosen but that some have

not been chosen or have been passed by in God's eternal election - those, that is, concerning whom God,

on the basis of his entirely free, most just, irreproachable, and unchangeable good pleasure, made

the following decision: to leave them in the common misery into which, by their own fault, they have plunged themselves; not to grant them saving faith and the grace

of conversion; but finally to condemn and eternally punish them (having been left in their own ways and

under his just judgment), not only for their unbelief but also for all their other sins, in order to display his justice. And this is the decision of reprobation, which does not at all make God the author of sin (a blasphemous thought!)

but rather its fearful, irreproachable, just judge and avenger.

Canons of Dort

24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their

hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored

among them. 25 For they exchanged the

truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the

creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Romans 1:18-25

Is there such a thing as a Carnal Christian?Definition to followThis is an issue that involves the Lordship

Salvation/Free Grace DebateLS – One must recognize that Christ is not only

Savior, but Lord to be saved. This is an articulated response the the “carnal Christian” teachings that one need only “believe”

FG – One must only believe that Jesus saved them to be saved. To add anything else on (e.g. repentence, lordship, devotion, etc.) is to add to the Gospel and is heresy

The discussion had a birthThe History matters

The “carnal” Christian

A person who claims to know Christ as Savior, yet whose life is sharply marked by sin and a stark lack of devotion to Christ – either for a short period of time, or a long period of time.

The HistoryDebate began when Dallas Theological Seminary

(DTS) President, Lewis Sperry Chafer proposed the doctrine of the “carnal Christian” in his book, He that is Spiritual, based on 1 Corinthians 2-3.

Dr. B.B. Warfield responded in the Princeton Theological Journal “there are not two kinds of Christians”

1959 Eternity magazine had a debate of sorts“Must Christ be Lord to be Savior?”John Stott – YesEverett Harrison – NoAfter this, Macarthur and Hodges (The Gospel According

to Jesus & The Gospel Under Siege - respectively

Some Quotes“The Lordship view expressly states the

necessity of acknowledging Christ as Lord and Master of one’s life in the act of receiving Him as Savior, these are not two different sequential acts (or successive steps), but rather one act of pure trusting faith,”

“To impose a need to surrender the life to God as an added condition of salvation is most unreasonable.”

The GospelsMatthew

5:207:21

Mark10:15

Luke9:62

Big Deal

1 John1:6

2:11

No

Carnal Christian

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