CAPTIONINGSEPTEMBER 3, 2013

METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION

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>>MARK SHARPE: GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO YOUR

HILLSBOROUGH MPO MEETING.

TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3rd, AND WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN

WITH THE PLEDGE AND PRAYER BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.

[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

>>LES MILLER, JR.: OUR GRACIOUS AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE'RE

SO THANKFUL THAT YOU TOUCHED US WITH YOUR LOVING HANDS TO

ALLOW US TO COME OUT TODAY TO SEE -- SEE ONE MORE DAY AND TO

ALLOW US TO COME OUT TODAY TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT WILL

MAKE THIS COUNTY A BETTER PLACE FOR ALL OF US TO LIVE, WORK,

AND PLAY.

WE ASK THAT YOU HUMBLE OUR HEARTS AND REGULATE OUR MINDS AS

WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

WE MAY NOT ALL BE ON ONE ACCORD, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE

HERE TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS IN

THIS COUNTY.

WE ASK THAT WHEN WE LEAVE THIS PLACE YOU TAKE US BACK TO OUR

HOMES TO FIND EVERYTHING SAFE AND SOUND.

THESE AND ALL BLESSINGS WE ASK IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MILLER.

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I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT, BUT IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE AN

OPPORTUNITY NOW.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS

WITH MS. ALDEN.

WELCOME, MA'AM.

>>BETH ALDEN: THANK YOU.

VERY BRIEFLY.

BETH ALDEN WITH THE MPO STAFF.

ALL OF THE COMMITTEES SUPPORTED TODAY'S TRANSPORTATION

IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PRIORITIES, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL

COMMENTS ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED.

ONE OF THOSE IS FROM THE BICYCLE/PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY

COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS ASKING HOW THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC

MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS WILL ACCOMMODATE CYCLISTS AND WALKERS AT

INTERSECTIONS, AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY STAFF HAS REPORTED

THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT.

ALL OF THE COMMITTEES ALSO SUPPORTED THE

COLLINS STREET/REDMAN PARKWAY COMPLETE STREET CONCEPT PLAN

IN PLANT CITY, ALSO WITH A QUESTION FROM THE TECHNICAL

ADVISORY COMMITTEE ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE ALEXANDER STREET

EXTENSION IN PLANT CITY, WHICH WILL BECOME THE NEW STATE

ROUTE 39, AND SO WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF

TRANSPORTATION ABOUT WHAT COMPLETE STREET ENHANCEMENTS WILL

BE INCLUDED IN THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND THOSE ARE REALLY THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM OUR COMMITTEES ON

TODAY'S ACTION ITEMS.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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WONDERFUL.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE

TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

WE'LL FIRST HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF, MR. BLAIN, ON

THE PRIORITIES, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT.

IF ANYONE WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT, YOU HAVE THAT

OPPORTUNITY, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO BOARD DISCUSSION.

NOW, WE WILL BE TAKING A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ITEM.

MR. BLAIN, WELCOME, SIR.

>>WALLY BLAIN: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, AND HOPE EVERYONE

HAD A RESTFUL AND WONDERFUL LABOR DAY WEEKEND.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PRIORITIES FOR THE TRANSPORTATION

IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THIS MORNING, AND REAL BRIEFLY, WE'VE

TALKED A LOT ABOUT PRIORITIES, SO WHAT ARE PRIORITIES, AND

PRIORITIES REALLY PROVIDE THE FRAMEWORK FOR EFFICIENT AND

EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

IT'S OUR WAY OF COMMUNICATING TO THOSE THAT IMPLEMENT

PROJECTS SINCE THE MPO IS A PLANNING AND PRIORITIZING POLICY

AGENCY, THOSE THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING PROJECTS LIKE THE

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT

AGENCIES, WHAT PROJECTS ARE PRIORITIES FOR US AS A

METROPOLITAN REGION AND A COUNTY AS WE MOVE PROJECTS FROM

PLANNING INTO IMPLEMENTATION.

SO HOW ARE PRIORITIES DEVELOPED?

A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIES.

WE TALKED MOST RECENTLY AT THE REGIONAL CONTEXT WITH THE

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CHAIRS COORDINATING COMMITTEE IN MARCH ADOPTING A SET OF TEN

HIGH-PRIORITY MAJOR TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES AS YOUR BIG

CORE OF PROJECTS THROUGHOUT OUR REGION.

WE HAD MUCH DISCUSSION HERE IN THE CHAIRS COORDINATING

COMMITTEE AFTER ENDORSEMENT BY ALL OF THE REGIONS' MPOs AND

COUNTIES, MOVED THOSE PRIORITIES ON FOR IMPLEMENTATION.

BACK IN 2009 THIS BODY ADOPTED THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION

PLAN, AND INCLUDED IN THAT WAS A PRIORITIZED OR RANKED LIST

OF PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY FOR THE

NEXT 20 OR 30 YEARS, AND THAT PRIORITIZATION REALLY LOOKS AT

WHAT DO WE NEED AND HOW DO THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS MEET OUR

GOALS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THAT PLAN BASED ON REVENUE AND

FUNDING EXPECTATIONS WHAT CAN BE COMPLETED, AND THEN

ANNUALLY WE LOOK AT THIS LIST OF PRIORITIES FOR THE

TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THAT FIVE-YEAR FUNDING

WINDOW OF THE PROJECTS THAT CAN BE BUDGETED IN THIS CURRENT

YEAR AND THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR BEING COMPLETED, AND WE'RE

PULLING THOSE PROJECTS OFF OF THAT LONG-RANGE PLAN LIST AND

COORDINATING WITH THE REGIONS' PRIORITIES.

SO REAL BRIEFLY, THE TEN FACTORS OF THE LONG-RANGE PLAN THAT

WE LOOKED AT FOR PRIORITIZING THOSE NEEDS AND IDENTIFYING

WHICH ONES COULD BE COST-AFFORDABLE ARE LISTED HERE, WE

START WITH THINGS LIKE HIGH CRASH AREAS, WE'RE LOOKING AT

PROJECTS THAT ADDRESS SAFETY ISSUES AND CONCERNS, ADDRESSING

THE NEEDS FOR FUTURE CONGESTION LEVELS, AS WELL AS

SUPPORTING PROJECTS THAT SHIFT US FROM A SINGLE-OCCUPANT

VEHICLE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM; ACTIVITY CENTERS, THOSE ARE

PROJECTS THAT PROVIDE ACCESS TO OUR MAJOR ACTIVITY CENTERS;

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REGIONAL PLANS, PROJECTS THAT ARE IN OUR REGIONAL PLANNING

EFFORTS AND HOW WE'RE SUPPORTING THAT.

IF WE HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT FROM A COMMUNITY AREA OR A

NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE WANT TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROJECTS

AS A HIGHER PRIORITY FOR MEETING THE PRIORITIES AND DESIRES

OF THE CITIZENS.

PROJECTS THAT ARE ON OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT

CREATING NEW PROJECTS AND NEW RIGHTS-OF-WAY FOR MAINTENANCE

REQUIREMENTS BUT WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS WE CAN DO ON OUR

EXISTING TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

THOSE PROJECTS THAT SUPPORT TRUCK ROUTES AND GOODS MOVEMENT,

THE STATE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF IDENTIFYING THE REGIONAL

GOODS MOVEMENTS AND IDENTIFYING HOT SPOTS, SO THOSE PROJECTS

THAT ADDRESS THOSE -- THE CONCERNS FOR THE GOODS MOVEMENT.

THE ETDM SCREENING IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCREENING PROCESS

THAT LOOKS AT NOT ONLY THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT BUT ALSO THE

BUILT AND HUMAN ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT IMPACTS DO THOSE

PROJECTS HAVE ON NOT ONLY CURRENT HUMAN ENVIRONMENT BUT ALSO

THE HISTORY.

AND THEN PROJECTS THAT SERVE ON -- AS EVACUATION ROUTES OR

ARE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE GIVING BONUS POINTS TO AS

WELL.

SO IF OUR PURPOSE OF PRIORITIES IS TO MOVE PROJECTS FROM

PLANNING INTO PROGRAMMING -- LOTS OF Ps THERE -- HOW ARE WE

DOING.

SO PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED IN THE LAST YEAR, THE

WIDENING OF BRUCE B. DOWNS, KIND OF IN THAT MIDDLE SEGMENT

UP IN NEW TAMPA, HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

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ALSO, THE WIDENING OF I-275 NORTH UP TO THE APEX HAS NOW

BEEN COMPLETED.

THERE ARE SEVERAL SIDEWALK PROJECTS AS WELL THROUGHOUT OUR

COUNTY THAT WERE COMPLETED AT THE FEDERAL -- THROUGH THE

FEDERAL PROGRAM.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS GETTING

PRIORITIES OFF OF THE LIST AND PROGRAMMED FOR CONSTRUCTION,

AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT WERE

MOVED ON TO OUR LIST FOR CONSTRUCTION, AND SO THOSE INCLUDE

U.S. 301 DOWN IN SOUTH COUNTY, THE NORTHERN SEGMENT OF

BRUCE B. DOWNS WAS MOVED ONTO THAT LIST AS BEING FUNDED IN

THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THE WIDENING OF SAM ALLEN ROAD OVER IN

PLANT CITY -- THIS KIND OF PARALLELS I-4 ON THE NORTH

SIDE -- STATE ROAD 574 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF I-4 THROUGH THE

MANGO AREA, AND THEN STATE ROAD 60 FROM 301 TO FALKENBURG

OVER JUST WEST OF BRANDON HAVE ALL BEEN NOW MOVED INTO

CONSTRUCTION FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

WE ALSO HAVE THE BICYCLE LANES COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT IS

FUNDED IN THE FIVE YEARS.

THIS WOULD TAKE THE BIKE LANES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BAY TO

BAY BOULEVARD.

THAT'S FUNDED.

AND THEN SEVERAL PROJECTS OUT OF CITY OF TAMPA'S WALK-BIKE

STUDY FOR SAFETY PROJECTS ON BOUGAINVILLEA, PALM, AND WILLOW

AVENUE, THESE ALL THREE HAVE BEEN FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION AS

WELL.

AND THEN THERE ARE SOME ONGOING PROJECTS THAT WE CONTINUE TO

SUPPORT.

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ONE OF THOSE IS THE BUS PROGRAM UNDER HART, THEIR FLEET

REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, SO THERE WAS FUNDING ADDED FOR THAT AT

LAST YEAR'S -- FROM LAST YEAR'S PRIORITIES, ALSO MAINTAINING

THE VANPOOL PROGRAM THAT'S OPERATED BY TBARTA WAS FUNDED,

AND THEN THE PLANNING STUDIES, OF WHICH YOU'LL HEAR THE

STATE ROAD 39 STUDY LATER, ONE OF THOSE STUDIES THAT THE MPO

ASKS FOR FUNDING FOR AS PRIORITIES, THOSE WERE ALL FUNDED IN

THE LAST CYCLE AS WELL.

SO NOW THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHERE ARE WE AT

NOW, WHAT IS ON THE PRIORITY LIST, AND HOW DO WE MOVE THIS

FORWARD?

THE FIRST THING THAT WE LIST ON THERE IS PROJECTS THAT ARE

CURRENTLY FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION AND UNDERWAY.

WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THOSE AS OUR TOP PRIORITY.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING STOPPED AND ADD A NEW PROJECT

IN ON THE WAY, SO THERE ARE 34 PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED ON

THE FIRST TWO PAGES OF THAT PRIORITY LIST OF PROJECTS THAT

ARE ALREADY PROGRAMMED OR UNDERWAY FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THEN WE HAVE A PLANNING SET-ASIDE, AGAIN, THAT'S THE MPO

STUDIES, FOR $400,000 EVERY YEAR.

A COUPLE OF PEDESTRIAN/BICYCLE SAFETY PROJECTS, THE FIRST

ONE IS THE CYPRESS CORRIDOR TRAIL.

THIS WOULD RUN FROM THE CYPRESS CREEK PARK OVER ON THE BAY

OVER TOWARDS WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.

THIS IS THE FINAL PROJECT THAT WAS OUT OF THAT TAMPA WALK-

BIKE STUDY THAT IS PRIORITIZING THAT FOR CONSTRUCTION.

LAST YEAR THE COUNTY SUBMITTED 20 -- 20 APPLICATIONS FOR THE

SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS PROGRAM TO THE STATE, THE FLORIDA

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DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS PROGRAM WENT THROUGH A CHANGE AS

A FEDERAL PROGRAM UNDER THE NEW MOVING AHEAD PROGRESS FOR

THE 21st CENTURY FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION BILL.

THAT -- THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROGRAM NOW IS PART OF THE

MPO'S PLANNING PROCESS AND COMES THROUGH OUR PRIORITIZATION,

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS IDENTIFIED THOSE APPLICATIONS

THAT WERE SUBMITTED IN COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY PUBLIC

WORKS AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS

AS PRIORITIES FOR THIS WITHOUT TAKING NEW APPLICATIONS AND

GETTING MORE PROJECTS INTO THE LIST.

WE WANT TO GET THOSE OFF THE LIST FIRST.

THE NEXT CATEGORY, THEN, IS OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM PRESERVATION.

AGAIN, THIS IS MAINTAINING THE BUS PROGRAM FOR HART, THEIR

CAPITAL REPLACEMENT OF VEHICLES, MAINTAINING THE VANPOOL

PROGRAM THAT TBARTA OPERATES, THEN WE'VE ALSO HAD A REQUEST

THIS YEAR THROUGH HART FOR CAPITAL MAINTENANCE ON THE

STREETCAR, AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY CONSTRUCTION AS IT'S

LISTED ON THE PRIORITIES FOR NEW EXTENSIONS OF THE STREETCAR

BUT THAT'S CONSTRUCTION OF CAPITAL MAINTENANCE ON THE

EXISTING SYSTEM.

THE INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM PROGRAM, BOTH THE

COUNTY AND THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE UNDERWAY WITH AN ADVANCED

TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

YOU CAN SEE FOR THE CITY IT'S A CITYWIDE APPLICATION.

THE CITY'S CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF

TRANSPORTATION ON IDENTIFYING PRIORITY CORRIDORS AND WHERE

TO IMPLEMENT.

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THEY'RE DOING A STUDY ON THAT NOW, SO WE'VE LISTED THAT

THERE WITH A $10-MILLION PRICE TAG, AND AS PRIORITY

CORRIDORS ARE IDENTIFIED, INDIVIDUAL CORRIDORS WILL BE

PROGRAMMED IN FOR CONSTRUCTION AND IMPLEMENTATION.

AND THEN ONE CORRIDOR FOR THE COUNTY WOULD BE DALE MABRY

HIGHWAY FROM SLIGH UP TO VAN DYKE ROAD.

WE'VE CREATED THIS CATEGORY OF MAJOR REGIONAL PROJECTS,

THEN, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REGIONAL PROJECTS THAT

WERE -- PRIORITIES THAT WERE ADOPTED BY THE CCC BACK IN

MARCH OF THIS YEAR, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE BIG PROJECTS ON

THERE THAT ARE I-75 MANAGED LANES FROM I-4 TO FOWLER,

MANAGED LANES ON I-4 FROM 50th STREET OUT TO POLK COUNTY AND

THE POLK PARKWAY, I-275/HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE REPLACEMENT,

FIXED GUIDEWAY FROM WESTSHORE TO TIA.

THIS IS A PART OF A MAJOR PROJECT THAT'S IN THE LONG-RANGE

PLAN THAT HAD RAIL INCLUDED THAT WOULD GO OUT THROUGH THERE.

THE AVIATION AUTHORITY NOW IS MOVING FORWARD ON THEIR

AUTOMATED PEOPLE MOVER, WHICH WOULD BE A COMPONENT OF THIS,

THAT WOULD GO FROM THE TERMINAL BUILDING DOWN TO A

CONSOLIDATED RENTAL CAR ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE AIRPORT.

IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, THEN, STUDY AND FEASIBILITY OF

EXTENDING THAT DOWN TO THE WESTSHORE INTERMODAL CENTER DOWN

TO WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT.

AND THEN THE STATE ROAD 60/I-275 INTERCHANGE MODIFICATION IS

OUR OTHER MAJOR REGIONAL PROJECT.

OTHER MAJOR PROJECTS WE'VE GOT ON THE LIST, THEN, WOULD

INCLUDE COMPLETION OF THE UPPER TAMPA BAY TRAIL.

THIS IS FILLING IN THE GAP THAT'S FROM PETERSON ROAD PARK

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THEN UP TO VAN DYKE ROAD.

WE'VE ALSO GOT A PROJECT FOR THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION

DEMAND MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AS WELL AS A PROJECT FOR THE SOUTH

COAST GREENWAY.

THE COUNTY'S ACTIVELY MOVING FORWARD ON LOCALLY FUNDING

PARTS OF THAT, AND THEY'VE ASKED US TO INCLUDE THAT AS A

PRIORITY, THEN, FOR FUTURE FUNDING OUT OF THE FEDERAL

SYSTEM.

THE EXTENSION OF SAM ALLEN ROAD FROM PARK TO POLK COUNTY,

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT PLANT CITY HAS REQUESTED THAT'S

CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTHEAST PLANT CITY MASTER PLAN.

IT WOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT PARALLEL CORRIDOR RELIEF

FOR THE INTERSTATE.

THE TAMPA RIVERWALK, THE REQUEST HERE IS THAT THE KENNEDY

PLAZA AREA THEY BE PROVIDED STAIRS OR ELEVATOR ACCESS.

THE INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, WE HAVE A PROJECT ON

THE COURTNEY CAMPBELL THAT THE D.O.T. WILL BE IMPLEMENTING

AS THE STATE ROAD 60 CROSSES THE BAY OVER TO PINELLAS.

THE STATE ROAD 39 COMPLETE STREET PROJECT, THIS IS A STUDY

THAT THE MPO'S INVOLVED IN NOW, AND YOU'LL HEAR LATER ON THE

AGENDA KIND OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF

THAT STUDY, SO WHAT THIS IS IS A PLACEHOLDER ON THE PRIORITY

LIST THAT THOSE -- THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING FROM THAT

STUDY, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE AND GET THOSE INTO

IMPLEMENTATION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN WE HAVE CAUSEWAY BOULEVARD FROM MARITIME TO 41.

THIS IS A REQUEST THAT SPECIFICALLY CAME THROUGH FROM THE

PORT AUTHORITY, AS IT WOULD HELP WITH THEIR GOODS MOVEMENTS.

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WRAPPING UP THE LIST, THEN, OF MAJOR PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT

SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE FROM HART AS BUS RAPID

TRANSIT PROJECTS.

PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD AT THE POLICY COMMITTEE WAS DO

WE LIST THESE AS SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS OR DO WE LIST

THEM AS A GROUP.

SINCE HART WOULD BE THE ONE IMPLEMENTING THOSE, HOW DO WE

RECOGNIZE HART'S PRIORITY AND PREFERENCE FOR IMPLEMENTATION?

WHAT YOU'LL NOTE ON THE LIST THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE

PRIORITY LIST, WE HAVE NOW GROUPED THOSE ALL TOGETHER AS ONE

LINE ITEM, BUT -- AND FOR FUNDING BUT UNDER THAT IDENTIFIED

THE INDIVIDUAL BRT CORRIDORS AS PART OF THAT GROUP PROJECT,

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LISTING THE GROUPING OF BUS RAPID

TRANSIT PROJECTS, AND THIS WOULD EXPAND THE METRORAPID

SYSTEM THAT HART HAS NOW IN PLACE FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE

UNIVERSITY AREA AND THEN OVER TO HIDDEN RIVER BUSINESS PARK,

BUT THE WAY THAT'S LISTED NOW AS A PRIORITY ALLOWS HART,

THEN, THE FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR PROGRAMMING TO PICK THE

CORRIDOR, AND WE'RE NOT PRESCRIBING OR TRYING TO INFLUENCE

THE ORDER OF THOSE CORRIDORS AS THEY'RE STUDIED MOVING

FORWARD.

SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THIS MAJOR PROJECTS LIST

WOULD BE THE GREEN SPINE THAT CAME OUT OF THE CITY OF --

TAMPA'S INVISION CENTRAL CITY STUDY, AND SO THIS WOULD BE A

BIKE -- A SEPARATED BIKEWAY AND ENHANCED CORRIDOR ON TYLER

AND CASS THAT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY FROM THE RIVER AND

CONNECT OVER ONTO NUCCIO PARKWAY.

WE ALSO HAVE THE SOUTH TAMPA GREENWAY THAT WOULD EXTEND THE

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GREENWAY OVER FROM ITS CURRENT TERMINUS OVER TO THE PICNIC

ISLAND PARK AND THEN AN EXTENSION OF SLIGH AVENUE OVER TO

THE TAMPA EXECUTIVE AIRPORT, AS THE AVIATION AUTHORITY LOOKS

TO EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS AND CAPABILITIES OF THAT AIRPORT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS, THEN, LISTED ON THAT LAST

PAGE THAT ARE PROJECTS FOR FUTURE LRTP CONSIDERATION, AND

THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY LIST IN THE

LONG-RANGE PLAN BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT ARE PRIORITIES AND

IMPORTANT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS FOR US, AND SO ONE OF

KNOWS IS THE WEST RIVER GREENWAY.

THIS WOULD BE AN EXTENSION FROM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD UP TO MLK

ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER, AGAIN, A PROJECT THAT CAME

OUT OF THE INVISION STUDY -- THE INVISION TAMPA STUDY THAT

WOULD MIRROR THE RIVERWALK ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER.

ENHANCEMENTS ON CHARLIE TAYLOR ROAD, AND, AGAIN, THIS IS A

REQUEST FROM THE CITY OF PLANT CITY THAT WOULD RUN FROM

U.S. 92 TO KNIGHTS GRIFFIN ROAD.

THIS IS A NORTH-SOUTH ROAD ALMOST TO THE EASTERN EDGE OF OUR

COUNTY AND IS CONSISTENT, AGAIN, WITH THE NORTHEAST PLANT

CITY MASTER PLAN THAT WAS DONE FOR A LAND USE STUDY.

THE NEXT FOUR PROJECTS, THEN, ARE OPERATIONAL AND GRADE

SEPARATOR PROJECTS THAT CAME SPECIFICALLY AS REQUESTS FROM

THE PORT AUTHORITY.

WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF OPERATIONAL -- OF

PROJECTS THAT CAN BE DONE EITHER AT GRADE-SEPARATED

INTERCHANGES OR OVERPASSES WITH OUR RAIL CORRIDORS THAT

WOULD HELP NOT ONLY WITH OUR AUTO CONGESTION BUT ALSO HELP

WITH THE MOVEMENT OF GOODS.

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SINCE WE MET WITH ALL THE COMMITTEES AND HAVE COME FORWARD,

WE DID HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COORDINATION WITH D.O.T. THAT WE

WANTED TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU AND RECOGNIZE HOW WE

INCORPORATE THIS INTO OUR PRIORITIES.

SO FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AS YOU'RE WELL

AWARE, THEY'RE DOING THE MANAGED LANES STUDY CONCEPT

THROUGHOUT THE REGION ON ALL OF OUR INTERSTATE CORRIDORS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED AND THIS HAS HAPPENED

QUICKLY SINCE THE LONG-RANGE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, SO WE DON'T

HAVE ALL OF THESE MANAGED LANES CORRIDORS LISTED IN OUR

LONG-RANGE PLAN TO BE PUT ON THE PRIORITY LIST, SO THE

PROJECT HERE WOULD BE THE I-275 MANAGED LANES THAT WOULD GO

FROM THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE THROUGH THE MEMORIAL

INTERCHANGE ALL THE WAY OVER THROUGH TO DOWNTOWN.

WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTED OR COORDINATED WITH D.O.T. TO PUT

THIS ON THE PRIORITY LIST, AND SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT SHOWS

SUPPORT FROM THE MPO THAT, YES, WE DO THINK THIS IS A HIGH

PRIORITY AND WOULD ALLOW, THEN, THE STATE TO WORK AT A

STATEWIDE LEVEL FOR SOME OF THE COMPETITIVE MONEY THAT'S

ALLOCATED AT THE STATEWIDE LEVEL FOR MAJOR PROJECTS.

AGAIN, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REGIONAL PRIORITIES.

WE DID GO THROUGH PRESENTATIONS OF THIS WITH THE COMMITTEES

IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, AND A NOTICE WAS IN THE TRIBUNE

ABOUT TODAY'S MEETING.

IT HAS ALSO BEEN POSTED ON THE MPO'S WEB SITE SINCE THE

FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S AWARENESS.

SO HERE'S THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU.

THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU WOULD ADOPT THE

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PRIORITIES FOR THE -- THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT

PROGRAM, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO AS PART OF

THAT ACTION IS CONSIDER THIS REQUEST FROM D.O.T. ON THE

MANAGED LANE STUDY FROM I-275 FROM THE HOWARD FRANKLAND

BRIDGE TO DOWNTOWN.

I THINK WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS IS THE WAY WE'VE STRUCTURED THE

PRIORITY LIST.

ONE CAN BE THAT THIS BE INCLUDED IN THAT LISTING OF MAJOR

REGIONAL PROJECTS, AND SO RIGHT NOW THOSE ARE PRIORITIES 9

THROUGH 13 ON THE LIST, OR IT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THIS

LISTING THAT WE HAVE AT THE INSTANCE.

IT'S NOT A PROJECT ON THE LONG-RANGE PLAN.

WE COULD INCLUDE THIS AS PART OF A PROJECT TO BE -- FOR

FUTURE LRTP CONSIDERATION, AND THOSE WOULD BE

PRIORITIES 26-31.

BECAUSE THIS IS AN AMEND -- THIS IS PRIORITIES FOR THE

TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WE DO NEED A ROLL CALL

VOTE AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL TURN IT OVER FOR ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC?

IF NOT, COMMISSIONER MURMAN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND THANK YOU,

WALLY, FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

IT CERTAINLY SHOWS WE'RE BEING VERY STRATEGIC.

I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE FDOT REQUEST FOR THE MANAGED LANES.

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THAT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS HELP GETTING FROM DOWNTOWN TO

HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE.

I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU ONE QUESTION IN YOUR PRESENTATION

BECAUSE YOU HAD THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR BIKES AND TRAILS, YOU

HAD DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR BUSES, BUT YOU REALLY DIDN'T LIST THE

DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSTRUCTION, AND I

DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT FIGURE RIGHT NOW OR IF YOU COULD

GET BACK TO ME WITH THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING PROPORTIONAL AND

THAT WE'RE DEVOTING THE MAJORITY OF OUR RESOURCES TO ROADS

BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT, AT LEAST IN MY OFFICE, I HEAR THE MOST

COMPLAINTS ABOUT.

I THINK THE AMENITIES OF TRAILS IS GREAT, BUT BUSES AND

ROADS HAVE GOTTA BE OUR PRIORITY, NUMBER ONE, AND I WOULD

LIKE TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT IS?

>>WALLY BLAIN: I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON MANY OF

THOSE PROJECTS, AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S COORDINATED WITH

D.O.T. AND THE IMPLEMENTING AGENCY AS THEY WORK THROUGH TO

MAKE SURE THAT THE WHOLE PROJECT IS FUNDED.

WE DON'T WANT TO LIST, LET'S SAY, A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A

PROJECT THAT ENDS UP COSTING $5 MILLION AND THEY WOULD NEED

TO COME BACK THROUGH US FOR THAT.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THE TOTAL AMOUNT I THINK WOULD BE --

>>WALLY BLAIN: YES.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: -- YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

>>WALLY BLAIN: SO I THINK WE MAY HAVE SOME OF THAT ON SOME

OF THOSE PROJECTS.

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I DON'T HAVE ANY OF IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

>>WALLY BLAIN: -- BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT TO YOU.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: BUT -- BUT IN YOUR OPINION, IT'S MORE THAN

WHAT THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS ARE COMBINED?

>>WALLY BLAIN: CERTAINLY, YES.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

I WILL -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE T.I.P. PRIORITIES.

>>RICK LOTT: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL FOR THE T.I.P. PRIORITIES,

SECOND -- BY COMMISSIONER MURMAN, SECONDED BY DIRECTOR LOTT.

YES, MR. BLAIN.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP THE ISSUE OF THE MANAGED LANE,

YES.

>>WALLY BLAIN: YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO --

>>MARK SHARPE: WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND -- DO YOU HAVE A --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MARK SHARPE: PLEASE.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: YES.

I'LL ADD IT TO MY MOTION TO APPROVE FDOT TO REQUEST -- ARE

YOU -- THEY'RE REQUESTING STATE FUNDING, THAT'S CORRECT, FOR

THE MANAGED LANES FROM 270 -- ON HOWARD FRANKLAND?

>>MARK SHARPE: WE JUST HAVE THE MAKE THE DETERMINATION

WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON OUR PRIORITY LIST OR WE'RE

GOING TO PUT IT IN THE LONG RANGE --

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>> YES, THE REQUEST IS FULL COMBINATION OF FEDERAL/STATE

FUNDING.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THAT IT WILL GO ON THE T.I.P. PRIORITY

LIST?

>> YES.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

SO I WILL INCLUDE THE FDOT MANAGED LANE PROJECT FROM

DOWNTOWN TO HOWARD FRANKLAND IN THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE

T.I.P. LIST.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

AND ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, COMMISSIONER LOTT?

>>RICK LOTT: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MARK SHARPE: AND IS FDOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH HOW WE LIST

THIS.

>> YES.

RECOGNIZING THIS PROJECT CURRENTLY IS NOT IN THE COST-

FEASIBLE PLAN, I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE THE

AMENDMENT TO THE LRTP.

I KNOW THAT IT'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, NOT

MENTIONED HERE, BUT WE WILL COME FORWARD WITH ANOTHER

REQUEST, WHICH IS FOR THE 275 SEGMENT NORTH OF MLK, WHICH IS

ALSO OUR -- IN OUR MANAGEMENT -- MANAGED LANE PLAN, SO WE

NEED TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO GET IT DONE.

>>MARK SHARPE: ALL RIGHT.

AND THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED UNDER ACTION ITEM 6-B.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER MURMAN,

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SECONDED BY DIRECTOR LOTT, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A ROLL

CALL VOTE.

>>THE CLERK: MILLER.

>>LES MILLER, JR.: YES.

>>THE CLERK: LOPANO.

>>JOE LOPANO: YES.

>>THE CLERK: LOTT.

>>RICK LOTT: YES.

>>THE CLERK: CHILLURA.

>>FRANK CHILLURA: YES.

>>THE CLERK: SHARPE.

>>MARK SHARPE: YES.

>>THE CLERK: SUAREZ.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: YES.

>>THE CLERK: COHEN.

>>HARRY COHEN: YES.

>>THE CLERK: POLZIN.

>>STEVE POLZIN: YES.

>>THE CLERK: MURMAN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: YES.

>>THE CLERK: WAGGONER.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: YES.

>>THE CLERK: MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: YES.

>>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.

MOTION CARRIES.

>>MARK SHARPE: AND, MR. BLAIN, EXCELLENT JOB, AS USUAL.

>>WALLY BLAIN: THANK YOU.

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>>MARK SHARPE: I WOULD LIKE, THOUGH, AS COMMISSIONER MURMAN

REQUESTED, IF WE COULD GET INFORMATION REGARDING THE -- THE

TOTALS FOR THOSE ROAD PROJECTS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY

HELPFUL AND VERY ENLIGHTENING --

>>WALLY BLAIN: OKAY.

>>MARK SHARPE: -- BECAUSE WE SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF

MONEY ON ROADS, AND I THINK WE -- TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE OUR

CONSTITUENTS AS TO WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN OUR ROADS WOULD BE

HELPFUL.

>>WALLY BLAIN: YES, SIR.

BE HAPPY TO GET THAT TO YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

NOW WE NEED TO GO MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: SO MOVE.

>>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION OF APPROVAL BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ, SECONDED

BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

LET'S MOVE TO THE ACTION ITEMS.

WE HAVE MS. OGILVIE HERE TO BEGIN WITH ACTION ITEM 6-A, WITH

WHICH IS THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED SERVICE PLAN.

WELCOME, MA'AM.

>>MICHELE OGILVIE: GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.

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AND WE HAVE HERE OUR ANNUAL UPDATE OF THE TRANSPORTATION

DISADVANTAGED SERVICE PLAN, WHICH IS A WORK PRODUCT FROM

YOUR TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED COORDINATING BOARD, WHICH

WAS ESTABLISHED BY STATE LAW TO PROVIDE ADVICE AND DIRECTION

ON THE COORDINATION OF SERVICES TO THE TRANSPORTATION

DISADVANTAGED POPULATION IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

WE ADVISE THE MPO, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS,

PARTICULARLY THE SUNSHINE LINE, THE COMMISSION FOR

TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED IN TALLAHASSEE, HART, AS WELL

AS ALL ELECTED BODIES.

THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED, WHO ARE THEY?

THEY ARE LOW-INCOME PERSONS, THEY ARE PERSONS WITH

DISABILITIES, THE ELDERLY, AS WELL AS CHILDREN AT RISK.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAN IS TO FULFILL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN

THE COMMISSION FOR TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED.

IT ALLOWS US TO BRING $1.8 MILLION INTO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

EACH YEAR.

THE MPO IS THE DESIGNATED PLANNING AGENCY, AND THE

COORDINATING BOARD OVERSEES THE DEVELOPMENT AND

IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SERVICE PLAN.

THE PURPOSE, AS I SAID BEFORE, IS TO IDENTIFY THE NEEDS OF

THE ELDERLY, PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, AND THE ECONOMICALLY

DISADVANTAGED IN OUR COMMUNITY; UPDATE DATA, IN PARTICULAR,

WHICH IS WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR, OUR TRAVEL PATTERNS, AND

AVAILABLE OR ANTICIPATED FUNDING; OUTLINE A FIVE-YEAR

IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR THE SUNSHINE LINE; AND CONSISTENCY

BETWEEN ANNUAL EVALUATION, WHICH WE'LL BE BRINGING TO YOU IN

JANUARY, AND THE SERVICE PLAN.

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WHAT WE HEARD THROUGH THE YEAR OF DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PLAN

IS THAT RIDES, RIDES, RIDES ARE AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PART

OF THIS POPULATION'S NEEDS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ACCESS TO JOBS AND TRAINING, ACCESS TO

HEALTH CARE, ACCESS TO SHOPPING, AND ACCESS TO RECREATION,

WHICH IS A NEW ONE FOR THIS GROUP.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY SAID, WE WANT TO GET OUT THERE.

THE UNMET NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY

THIS BOARD, AND THEY FIND THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE

TRICOUNTY ACCESS BETWEEN PINELLAS, PASCO, AND HILLSBOROUGH,

ALL THE WAY AROUND; MORE FIXED ROUTES.

WE KNOW THAT HART IS REALLY STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND

DOING A WONDERFUL JOB, BUT WE'D LIKE TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN

TO SUPPORT THAT AND GET MORE OF IT, ESPECIALLY AT LATE-NIGHT

RUNS THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO ACCESS JOBS.

WE'D LIKE MORE FLEX ZONES FOR THE SAME PURPOSE.

THE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE PLAN, WHAT WE DID THIS

YEAR IS THAT WE GOT RID OF THE FIVE GOAL AREAS, WE ONLY HAVE

ONE GOAL, AND WE ALSO -- HAVING HEARD FROM PARTICULARLY THE

FDOT ON MAP-21 AND BEEN UPDATED, WE HAVE NOW ONE GOAL, AND

THAT GOAL IS TO MEET THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED

COMMUNITY'S NEEDS FOR ACCESS TO THE -- TO THE HIGHEST-

QUALITY TRANSPORTATION SERVICE, BEING EFFECTIVE, RELIABLE,

AND SAFE, WHICH IS STRAIGHT OUT OF MAP-21, SO WE HOPE WE'LL

GET SOME MONEY.

UNDER THE EFFICIENCIES, WE'D LIKE TO ASSIST THE CTC IN

SEEKING INCREASED COOPERATION BETWEEN ENTITIES SO THAT WE

CAN HAVE MORE COORDINATION.

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WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE -- THE COORDINATING EFFORTS ARE OUT

THERE THAT WE NEED TO BUMP UP A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT WE

CAN SQUEEZE OUT FOR BETTER EFFICIENCIES, AND PERHAPS WE NEED

TO GET A TD SUMMIT GOING.

FOR RELIABILITY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS SUCH AS

REPRESENTATION.

HART HAS A COMMUNITY GROUP THAT THEY HAVE INSTITUTED AND

REVAMPED FOR ADA, AND WE -- THREE OF OUR MEMBERS ARE NOW ON

THAT BOARD -- ON THAT RECOMMENDING GROUP, EXCUSE ME, AND

WE'D LIKE TO SUPPORT ANY SERVICES THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED.

FOR SAFETY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN

FACILITIES IN THE COMMUNITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, A NUMBER OF PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES COME

OUT OF THE HIGH CRASHES OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY DON'T DIE, BUT THEY LIVE AND HAVE -- END UP WITH

DISABILITIES, SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE MORE, WHATEVER CAN BE

DONE.

WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT.

AND EARLIER THIS YEAR THE TD BOARD SENT A LETTER TO THE BOCC

ASKING -- THANKING THEM FIRST FOR THEIR WONDERFUL WORK IN

SUPPORTING TEN TOP SAFETY AREAS BUT ALSO IF THEY CAN DO

MORE, PLEASE DO THAT, THE TD BOARD WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO

HELP IN ANY WAY TO IMPLEMENT MORE.

WE'VE ALSO UPDATED THE REQUIRED ELEMENTS SUCH AS TRIP

PRIORITIES, QUALITY INSURANCE STANDARDS, SERVICE POLICIES,

GRIEVANCE PROCESSES, AND FARE STRUCTURE FOR THE SUNSHINE

LINE.

AND AS I SAID BEFORE, LAST YEAR WE GOT 1.6.

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WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE THIS YEAR FOR THE TD PROGRAM, WHICH

HAS ALLOWED US -- THE SUNSHINE LINE TO PROVIDE 600,000 TRIPS

WITH A CLIENT SATISFACTION OF 99%, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO

ANNOUNCE, JUST IN CASE YOU HADN'T HEARD, THAT THE SUNSHINE

LINE WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE TOP CTC IN THE STATE IN AUGUST,

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW HILLSBOROUGH REALLY IS UP THERE.

AND OUR RECOMMENDED ACTION TO YOU THIS MORNING IS IF YOU

WOULD PLEASE APPROVE THE 2013 TRANSPORTATION DISAD -- CAN'T

SPEAK -- TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED SERVICE PLAN, AND WE

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR ASSISTANCE.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

ANY BOARD COMMENT?

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MURMAN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

AND MICHELE, AS ALWAYS, GREAT REPORT, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR

DEDICATION TO THE DISADVANTAGED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY -- A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BENEFITING FROM ALL THE WORK

THAT YOU DO.

AND I HAD TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK FROM THE BOARD, AND I

NOTICED THAT YOU HAD A VACANT CHAIR POSITION ON THIS.

>>MICHELE OGILVIE: NOT ANYMORE.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

>>MICHELE OGILVIE: WE CHANGED OUR MEETING DATE TO

FRIDAYS --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

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>>MICHELE OGILVIE: -- SO THAT WE NOW HAVE COUNCILMAN COHEN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE.

I WAS GOING TO OFFER UP --

>>HARRY COHEN: I CHAIRED THE MEETING.

IT WAS AUGUST 26th, I THINK, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN

OCTOBER.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

>>MARK SHARPE: DID YOU MAKE A MOTION?

>>SANDRA MURMAN: I'LL MOVE TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

>>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MURMAN AND SECONDED BY

COUNCILMAN COHEN.

>>HARRY COHEN: YES.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

WONDERFUL JOB.

>>MICHELE OGILVIE: THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

>>MARK SHARPE: BATING 100.

OKAY.

WE'RE UP NEXT TO THE LETTER REGARDING MANAGED LANES STUDY,

AND THAT'S MS. ALDEN.

>>BETH ALDEN: GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.

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AGAIN, BETH ALDEN, MPO STAFF.

AND THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT 7 OFFICE HAS

BEEN EVALUATING THE CONCEPT OF ADDING NEW EXPRESS TOLL LANES

IN SOME OF THE INTERSTATE CORRIDORS.

THERE'S A MAP FROM LAST YEAR, WHICH IS AN OLDER MAP, SHOWING

SOME OF THE CORRIDORS THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.

THERE IS NEW INFORMATION FROM D.O.T. ON SOME OF THE

CORRIDORS THAT THEY'VE NARROWED IN ON, BUT THEY'VE GOTTEN TO

THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE STARTING TO ASK FOR FEEDBACK FROM

THE MPOs AND THE TRANSIT AGENCIES ABOUT WHAT ACCOMMODATIONS

SHOULD BE MADE FOR TRANSIT, IF ANY, IN THESE EXPRESS TOLL

LANES.

IT'S KIND OF AN AWKWARD TIME FOR US TO RESPOND TO THEM

BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR LONG-RANGE

TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE LOOKING AT

FIXED GUIDEWAY TRANSIT AND HOW TO -- HOW TO BEST PROCEED

FORWARD WITH THAT SINCE 2009 WHEN WE LAST UPDATED OUR LONG-

RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES IN OUR

TRANSIT PLANNING, WE JUST DON'T HAVE AN ADOPTED POSITION AT

THIS POINT ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT OVER THE PAST

FEW YEARS ARE, OF COURSE, THE POST-REFERENDUM STUDY, WHICH

LOOKED AT SOME LOWER-COST FIXED GUIDEWAY STRATEGIES IN A

MORE LIMITED NUMBER OF CORRIDORS SUCH AS DIESEL MULTIPLE

UNIT VEHICLES ON A FREIGHT RAIL TRACK FROM DOWNTOWN TO USF

AND NORTH OR A BUS RAPID TRANSIT ON EXPRESS LANES FROM THE

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DOWNTOWN-TO-WESTSHORE AIRPORT CORRIDOR.

OF COURSE, THERE'S ALSO BEEN THE BUS TOLL LANE CONCEPT STUDY

DONE BY THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY WORKING WITH HART TO LOOK

AT A FUNDING STRATEGY WHERE YOU WOULD LOOK AT UP-FRONT

CAPITALIZATION USING POSSIBLY A NEW STARTS OR SMALL STARTS

GRANT AND THEN BE ABLE TO USE POTENTIALLY SOME TOLL REVENUES

TO SUPPORT TRANSIT OPERATIONS.

THE HART ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS WAS ALSO DONE AFTER OUR LONG-

RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS LAST ADOPTED.

IT DID FOCUS ON THE DOWNTOWN-TO-WESTSHORE CORRIDOR BUT DID

NOT ADOPT A PREFERRED TECHNOLOGY, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT

COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED AS ALSO A STARTING POINT FOR

DISCUSSION.

BUS RAPID TRANSIT WAS ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, FINALIST

CONCEPTS IN THAT ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT A WESTSHORE

INTERMODAL CENTER CONCEPT STUDY FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, JUST

ONE SPOT FOR A TRANSIT STATION IN ONE OF THE HIGHEST

BOARDING AND ALIGHTING LOCATIONS IN THAT DOWNTOWN-TO-

WESTSHORE CORRIDOR RIGHT NEAR WESTSHORE AND CYPRESS.

THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR THAT CALLED FOR A PLATFORM IN THE

CENTER OF 275 AND THEN A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER TO A

MULTIMODAL STATION WITH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY JOINT

DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT -- WE TOOK A QUICK LOOK FOR THE

PURPOSE OF THIS LETTER AT, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY OTHER

SPOTS ALONG THE DOWNTOWN-TO-WESTSHORE CORRIDOR WHERE

SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE BASED ON THE BOARDING

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AND ALIGHTING FORECASTS.

IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT ANY OTHER SPOTS, IT MIGHT BE IN THAT

DALE MABRY/HIMES AREA.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: BETH.

>>BETH ALDEN: SO I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF --

>>MARK SHARPE: MS. ALDEN, JUST ONE SECOND.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU, CHAIR.

>>MARK SHARPE: COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: QUICK QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY SOMETHING IN THE

MIDDLE OF THE INTERSTATE LIKE THAT, WHAT'S THE DISTANCE

BETWEEN 275 AT WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO THE AIRPORT PROPERTY,

LET'S SAY THE SOUTHERNMOST PART OF THE AIRPORT PROPERTY?

DO YOU KNOW THE DISTANCE?

>>BETH ALDEN: I DON'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WHAT

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE IS HAVING, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF

TRANSIT CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT WESTSHORE INTERMODAL CENTER

AND THE AIRPORT STATION ITSELF, SO IN THE SHORT-TERM, THAT

MIGHT BE A CIRCULATOR, IN THE LONGER-TERM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S

DISCUSSION OF EXTENDING THE -- A PEOPLE MOVER.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: NO.

WELL, LET ME -- THE QUESTION IS IS THE DISTANCE, DOES IT

MAKE MORE SENSE TO -- AND, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING FOR

DEEPER -- DEEPER DISCUSSION LATER ON, BUT TO ME THE DISTANCE

BETWEEN 275 AND THE AIRPORT IS MINIMAL.

WHY WOULD WE NOT JUST ALLOW THE BUS TO GET OFF OF THE

INTERSTATE, GO OVER TO THE AIRPORT PROPERTY, AND THEN GET

BACK ONTO THE INTERSTATE?

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I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T SEE THE -- THE VALUE OF THAT WHEN

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING OFF THERE TO GET ON TO

ANOTHER BUS IN ORDER TO GET INTO THE AIRPORT.

IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME, DOESN'T -- DOESN'T

ACTUALLY UNDERLINE THAT RAPID PART OF IT.

>>BETH ALDEN: SURE.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN ASKING

WHAT IS KIND OF THE RAPID CONNECTION FROM THAT SPOT TO THE

AIRPORT.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: NO, ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING.

I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT THE RAPID FROM THERE TO THE AIRPORT,

I'M ASKING ABOUT RAPID IF I'M IN BRANDON AND I WANT TO GO TO

THE AIRPORT, IT MAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE TO GO DIRECTLY

TO THE AIRPORT AS OPPOSED TO STOPPING ON 275, GETTING OUT,

CROSSING FOUR LANES OF HIGHWAY ABOVE IT, THEN GETTING BACK

DOWN, GETTING ON TO A COMMUTER, AND THEN GETTING TO THE

AIRPORT, OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH A PEOPLE MOVER, IF THAT'S

BEEN DISCUSSED, IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME,

YOU KNOW, IF I'M TRYING TO GO ON AN AIRPLANE.

>>BETH ALDEN: RIGHT.

YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, AND SO FOR THAT REASON, IT MAY BE THAT

THAT BUS WOULD CONTINUE THROUGH THE INTERCHANGE AND GO ON UP

TO THE AIRPORT, FOR EXAMPLE.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.

>>BETH ALDEN: SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THERE IS

WHAT'S THE ACCESS TO THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: SURE.

AND, AGAIN, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THIS IS A DISCUSSION.

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YOU KNOW, JUST WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS PICTURE ABOUT

MINNEAPOLIS, OUTSIDE MINNEAPOLIS, THAT REALLY DOESN'T LOOK

VERY INVITING TO ME AS A TRAVELER THAT I WOULD THINK THAT I

WOULD HAVE TO BE WALKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME WHEN I CAN

ALMOST WALK TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE AIRPORT FROM 275.

IT'S PROBABLY LESS THAN A HALF A MILE WOULD BE MY GUESS.

IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO A QUARTER MILE.

AND, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS AND

WE TALK ABOUT THE CENTER LANE, THERE'S A LOT OF PARTS OF IT

THAT MEAN RAPID, BUT THAT PART OF IT TO ME NEVER MAKES ANY

SENSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT

BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THIS, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MANAGED

LANES, I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT -- EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE PART

WHICH IS BUILDING ON 275, SO THANK YOU, CHAIR.

>>MARK SHARPE: DIRECTOR LOPANO, DID YOU WANT TO --

>>JOE LOPANO: YES.

YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU

I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MIGHT ILLUMINATE THE

DISCUSSION.

THE DISTANCE FROM 275 TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE

AIRPORT'S ABOUT 1.3 MILES, AND I THINK THE IDEA, AT LEAST

INITIALLY, IS THAT THE CONSOLIDATED RENTAL CAR FACILITY THAT

WE BUILD AT THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE AIRPORT, WHICH WILL

BE CONNECTED TO THE AIRPORT BY A PEOPLE MOVER, WILL HAVE THE

ABILITY TO TAKE BUS RAPID TRANSIT, SO IF A BUS COMES FROM

BRANDON OR DOWNTOWN OR FROM ST. PETE, WANTS TO GO TO THE

CONSOLIDATED RENTAL CAR CENTER, THEY CAN DISCHARGE THEIR

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PASSENGERS, GO UP THE ESCALATOR AND GET RIGHT ON THE TRAIN

AND GO TO THE TERMINAL, SO THAT WOULD BE THE INTERIM

SOLUTION.

THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION -- BECAUSE WE STUDIED WHETHER WE

COULD DO A INTERMODAL CENTER -- A TRUE, NO KIDDING,

INTERMODAL CENTER AT THE AIRPORT.

WE DON'T HAVE THE ROOM TO DO THAT, SO IN THE SHORT-TERM WE

CAN TAKE BRT RIGHT THERE AT THE CON RACK, BUT IN THE LONG-

TERM THE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO HAVE A REAL NO KIDDING

MULTIMODAL CENTER RIGHT AT 275 AND CONNECT IT.

ULTIMATELY, THE BEST SOLUTION WOULD BE TO CONNECT IT WITH AN

EXTENSION OF THE PEOPLE MOVER RIGHT DOWN TO 275 WHERE YOU

COULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE A BUS -- BRT FROM BRANDON, GET OFF

THERE, GET YOUR BOARDING PASS, GET A STARBUCKS, AND GET ON

THE TRAIN AND GO TO THE TERMINAL.

THAT WOULD BE THE -- IN MY OPINION, THAT'S THE LONGER-TERM

SOLUTION, IS THAT CORRECT, MS. ALDEN?

>>BETH ALDEN: YES, SIR.

>>JOE LOPANO: OKAY.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: WELL -- AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DISTANCE, I WAS TALKING

ABOUT THE DISTANCE FROM WHERE YOUR NEW CONCEPT WILL BE, NOT

FROM WHERE THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE TERMINAL IS NOW, SO I

THINK IT'S CLOSER THAN A MILE.

I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THAT, BUT IT SEEMS CLOSER THAN THE

MILE.

THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, BEST LAID PLANS

FOR ALL OF US WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, I DON'T

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WANT TO END UP AGREEING OR HELPING TO, YOU KNOW, FOMENT

SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INTERSTATE

THAT IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY STILL DO EXACTLY WHAT IT IS NOW,

WHICH IS YOU'D STOP, YOU'D LET PEOPLE OFF, AND THEN THEY'D

HAVE TO TAKE A COMMUTER FROM THERE.

AGAIN, IF WE'RE GOING TO PLAN IT THAT WAY, THAT'S ONE THING;

IF WE'RE PLANNING FOR SOMETHING FUTURE -- AND I THINK THAT

YOUR IDEA OF THE PEOPLE MOVER'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA, AND IF

THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE

TERRIFIC, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE

UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE PLANS ARE GOING TO MEAN.

I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT WHEN YOU HAVE AN INTERMODAL CENTER

IN THE MIDDLE OF AN INTERSTATE, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S

THE BEST USE OF OUR MONEY.

NOW, THAT'S JUST MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION IN TERMS OF LOTS OF

DIFFERENT REASONS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, LET'S GET OFF THE INTERSTATE AND

FIND ANOTHER AREA THAT'S MORE OF AN INTERMODAL AS OPPOSED TO

BEING ON THE INTERSTATE, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OWN PERSONAL

OPINION.

>>MARK SHARPE: MR. CHIARAMONTE AND THEN DIRECTOR POLZIN.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: YEAH.

I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING ABOUT THE LETTER THAT WE'RE

GOING TO ASK THE BOARD IF THEY WOULD AUTHORIZE OUR CHAIR TO

DO.

I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH SECRETARY STEINMAN ON FRIDAY ABOUT

THIS, AND ACTUALLY, I THINK PROBABLY WE'RE BEING TOO

SPECIFIC AT THIS STAGE IN THIS LETTER.

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WE NEED TO MAKE IT MORE GENERAL.

I MEAN, THE IDEA, I THINK, FOR FDOT -- AND THEY CAN SPEAK TO

THIS IF THEY WANT -- IS TO BE IN LINE TO GET FUNDING FROM

THE STATE TO HELP WITH THIS MANAGED LANES STUDY.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO DESIGN THE WHOLE THING RIGHT

NOW, WE CAN DISCUSS THESE THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU AUTHORIZE STAFF, WORKING WITH FDOT

AND THE CHAIR, TO MAKE IT A MORE GENERAL LETTER JUST

SUPPORTING THE CONCEPT OF MANAGED LANES WITHOUT BEING

SPECIFIC AS TO THE PROJECTS, WHICH WE REALLY DON'T KNOW YET.

>>MARK SHARPE: I WAS APPARENTLY DRINKING AN AWFUL LOT OF

COFFEE WHEN I WROTE THIS LETTER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF

DETAIL.

[LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>>MARK SHARPE: DIRECTOR POLZIN.

>>STEVE POLZIN: LET ME CONCUR WITH WHAT RAY SAID.

THE MANAGED LANE CONCEPT AND THE VIRTUE IT HAS FOR TRANSIT

IS REAL IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, IT ALLOWS TRANSIT TO HAVE A CONGESTION-FREE TRIP,

WHICH, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHERE MANAGED LANES ARE

BUILT, IT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TRANSIT SERVICE, SO

THAT'S CERTAINLY IMPORTANT.

ONE OF THE VIRTUES OF THOSE MANAGED LANES IS IF YOU DO HAVE

A BUS SERVICE, YOU CAN THEN TAKE IT OFF THAT MANAGED LANE

AND TAKE IT RIGHT TO THE POINT OF DEMAND, BE IT, YOU KNOW,

CHANNELSIDE, CONVENTION CENTER, HOTELS, AIRPORT, ET CETERA.

SO AS IT MOVES ALONG INTO DESIGN, THE ISSUE OF HOW WE

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INTERFACE WITH IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT, BUT IT -- IT IS

IS A DETAIL FOR LATER, BUT I THINK AT BOTH ENDS OF 275 TO

WESTSHORE OR A DOWNTOWN-TO-WESTSHORE MANAGED LANE, THERE

NEEDS TO BE SOME REAL SERIOUS THOUGHT ABOUT HOW THAT

INTERFACE AND COST AND FLEXIBILITY AND TRANSFERS, ET

CETERA -- I MEAN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A MARKET HERE WITH

PEOPLE AND LUGGAGE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, SO WE DO NEED

TO THINK THAT THROUGH.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE US PRECLUDE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE

PERHAPS A SPECIAL RAMP THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, GIVE EXPEDITED

ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT, EVEN IF IT'S AN INTERIM SOLUTION

BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS SUBSEQUENTLY.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MURMAN, AND THEN DIRECTOR WAGGONER.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: YEAH.

YOU GO FIRST.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: OKAY.

ON THE LETTER ITSELF, THE SECOND PAGE, BOTTOM PARAGRAPH,

LAST SENTENCE, THERE'S A STATEMENT THERE THAT I'D LIKE TO

HAVE MODIFIED OR EVEN REMOVED.

IT SAYS, UNFORTUNATELY, THE SMALL STARTS PROGRAM IS

UNDERFUNDED AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL IN COMPARISON TO THE

NUMBER OF APPLICANTS AND, THEREFORE, IS EXTREMELY

COMPETITIVE.

I -- I WOULD STATE THAT EVERY TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM IS

UNDERFUNDED AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL --

[LAUGHTER]

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-- SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT SENTENCE.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE BUS TOLLING CONCEPT INCREASES YOUR

ABILITY TO BE COMPETITIVE FOR THAT FUNDING SOURCE AT THE

NATIONAL LEVEL.

IT'S A BASIC PART OF THE CONCEPT.

SO I WOULD LIKE THAT SENTENCE STRUCK AND RATHER THAN START

THE NEXT SENTENCE WITH, HOWEVER, WE WOULD BE INTERESTED,

JUST STRIKE THE WORD "HOWEVER" AND START WITH, WE WOULD BE

INTERESTED.

THE OTHER CHANGE I'D LIKE TO SEE IS ON THE CCs.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TAMPA-HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY

ADDED TO THE DISCUSSION AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE -- ONE OF THE

AGENCIES PARTICIPATING IN IT.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS, SIR, AND WE'LL ALSO STRIKE

THAT SENTENCE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER MURMAN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE A NEW LETTER?

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: WELL, PROBABLY USE THIS LETTER AS A

BASIS AND TAKE OUT A LOT OF THE SPECIFICS.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: I JUST THINK IT HAS SO MUCH DETAIL IN IT,

LIKE --

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: RIGHT.

[INDISCERNIBLE CROSS TALK]

>>SANDRA MURMAN: -- THE USING RUBBER TIRE TECHNOLOGY, I

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MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVEN QUITE THERE YET.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: RIGHT.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: AND THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER AREAS.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: YEAH.

I THINK THERE --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: IT'S A GOOD LETTER.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: YEAH.

WELL, I THINK THERE WAS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING THAT FDOT

MAYBE WAS ASKING FOR DETAILED GUIDANCE ON THE ACTUAL

PROJECTS.

REALLY, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS JUST SUPPORT OF THE

CONCEPT OF MANAGED LANES, SO WE PROBABLY WERE OVERZEALOUS IN

TRYING TO PROVIDE THEM WITH DETAIL THAT WE DON'T NEED.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THEN COMMISSIONER SHARPE WAS EATING PIE

WITH HIS COFFEE BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF PIE IN THE SKY.

>>MARK SHARPE: YEAH.

[LAUGHTER]

>>SANDRA MURMAN: BUT, NO, IT'S GOOD, IT'S VERY VISIONARY,

BUT I JUST THINK WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET --

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: RIGHT.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: -- IN SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: AND WE WILL --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>MARK SHARPE: I SPOKE WITH THE SECRETARY AS WELL.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADJUST IT.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY POSITIVE COMMENTS TO MAKE ABOUT THIS

LETTER?

[LAUGHTER]

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OKAY.

SO, THEN, BETH, ARE YOU THROUGH?

>>BETH ALDEN: MM-HMM.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND FORWARD

A MORE GENERAL LETTER WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN

RECOMMENDED BY MR. WAGGONER AS WELL AS THE CONVERSATION THAT

WE'VE HAD, AND WE NEED A MOTION.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: I'LL MOVE.

>>MARK SHARPE: COMMISSIONER MURMAN.

SECONDED BY --

>>MIKE SUAREZ: SECOND.

>>MARK SHARPE: -- COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

GREAT JOB.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE NOW ON TO THE COLLINS STREET AND REDMAN PARKWAY

COMPLETE STREET STUDY, MS. BOWERS.

>>LISA SILVA: LISA SILVA --

>>MARK SHARPE: OH.

>>LISA SILVA: -- MPO STAFF.

I'M JUST HERE TO INTRODUCE OUR CONSULTANT, WIATT BOWERS WITH

ATKINS, AND HE'LL BE PRESENTING THE PROJECT, AND THE ACTION

WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO ENDORSE THE DRAFT.

THIS HASN'T BEEN BEFORE PLANT CITY'S COMMISSION YET, SO

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WE'RE ASKING FOR ENDORSEMENT OF THE DRAFT AS THE ACTION.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. -- WELCOME, MR. BOWERS.

>> GOOD MORNING.

SEE IF I CAN FIGURE THIS OUT.

OKAY.

LET'S GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT.

STARTING BACK AROUND 2000, FDOT AGREED TO RELOCATE STATE

ROAD 39, WHICH IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS WHAT YOU SEE IN RED,

TO DIVERT TRAFFIC AROUND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, SO AT THE

BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, IT WOULD COME UP AND THEN TAKE

ALEXANDER STREET AND BYPASS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND

THERE'S AN EXTENSION UP TO I-4.

THAT BYPASS -- AND BEYOND.

THAT BYPASS IS SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION EARLY NEXT YEAR, I

BELIEVE, AND THEN D.O.T. WILL BE TRANSFERRING THE PORTION OF

STATE ROAD 39 SHOWN IN RED, ALSO KNOWN AS COLLINS STREET, TO

THE CITY, AND THE CITY ASKED THE MPO TO HELP DEVELOP A

COMPLETE STREET PLAN FOR THAT CORRIDOR.

SO WE BEGAN WITH THE MPO, THE STUDY, IN FEBRUARY OF 2013.

IT'S ROUGHLY A TWO-MILE SEGMENT FROM THE DOWNTOWN PART OF

PLANT CITY DOWN TO ALEXANDER STREET.

CURRENTLY THE ROADWAY IS TWO LANES FOR ABOUT THE FIRST

COUPLE OF BLOCKS, AND THEN IT BECOMES FOUR LANES, BUT

TRAFFIC COUNTS NORTH OF GRANT STREET, SO FOR THE NORTHERN

HALF OF THE STUDY, ARE RELATIVELY LOW, AND WITH AN EXPECTED

DIVERSION TO THE NEW BYPASS, A ROAD DIET BRINGING IT DOWN

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FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO IS POSSIBLE.

SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO SHOW A LITTLE QUICK VIDEO ON WHAT IS

A COMPLETE STREET.

[VIDEO SHOWN]

>>THE NARRATOR: WHAT ARE COMPLETE STREETS?

THIS IS COMMUNITY PLANNING 101.

COMPLETE STREETS ARE STREETS DESIGNED TO BE SAFE,

COMFORTABLE, AND EFFICIENT FOR PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS,

TRANSIT RIDERS, AND MOTORISTS, AND THEY'RE DESIGNED TO BE

CONNECTED TO THE PLACES PEOPLE LIVE, WORK, LEARN, AND PLAY.

DESIGNS FEATURES OF COMPLETE STREETS MAY INCLUDE SIDEWALKS,

MULTIUSE TRAILS, BIKE OR BUS LANES, ACCESSIBLE TRANSIT

STOPS, MEDIAN ISLANDS, AND MANY OTHERS, AND EACH OF THESE

HELPS ONE OR MORE TRANSPORTATION METHOD FUNCTION BETTER

WITHOUT MAKING THE OTHERS LESS EFFICIENT OR UNCOMFORTABLE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT BALANCING THE USE OF CARS AGAINST ALL OTHER

TRANSPORTATION OR JUST ADDING LANES FOR BIKES, BUSES, AND

PEDESTRIANS, IT'S ABOUT TRAVEL BEING MORE ACCESSIBLE AND

PROVIDING TRAVEL OPTIONS FOR COMMUNITIES, MAKING THEM BETTER

AND HEALTHIER PLACES TO LIVE.

ALSO, THE IMPROVED SOCIAL INTERACTION OF COMPLETE STREETS IS

GOOD FOR BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY VALUES.

EVEN WHERE DESTINATIONS ARE CLOSE TO HOME, INCOMPLETE

STREETS OFTEN MAKE THEM INACCESSIBLE BY FOOT, BIKE, OR

TRANSIT.

FOR EXAMPLE, SCHOOLS WITHOUT SIDEWALKS TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS

MAKE WALKING LESS SAFE FOR STUDENTS, AND CUL-DE-SACS CREATE

DEAD-ENDS, CUTTING PLACES OFF FROM PEOPLE'S HOMES.

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ROUTES ALONG HIGH-SPEED ROADS WITHOUT BAKE LANES, SIDEWALKS,

OR COMFORTABLE TRANSIT STOPS FEEL UNSAFE AND ARE USED LESS.

MULTI-LANE ROADS WITHOUT ADEQUATE CROSSINGS ACT AS BARRIERS,

LIMITING ACCESS TO RETAIL AREAS AND SERVICES.

BY DESIGNING COMPLETE STREETS, THESE NEGATIVE IMPACTS CAN BE

AVOIDED OR REVERSED.

COMPLETE STREETS ARE ALSO NOT JUST CITY OR SUBURBAN

APPROACHES.

THEY CAN WORK IN RURAL AREAS TOO, BUT THE DESIGN SOLUTIONS

WILL LOOK DIFFERENT.

FOR EXAMPLE, ROADS IN RURAL AREAS MAY BE MADE COMPLETE BY

PROVIDING WIDE SHOULDERS FOR CYCLING AND WALKING WITH

CONNECTIONS TO TRAILS AND TRANSIT STOPS.

IN A VILLAGE CENTER A COMPLETE STREET STRATEGY COULD INCLUDE

MARKED CROSSINGS, SIDEWALKS, CURB EXTENSIONS, AND STREET

TREES, ALL DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE

SMALL TOWN.

SO NOW YOU KNOW THE BASICS OF WHAT COMPLETE STREETS ARE,

THEIR BENEFITS, AND THE KINDS OF WAYS THEY CAN BE DESIGNED.

I'M ROBERT VOIGT, AND THIS IS BEEN COMMUNITY PLANNING 101,

BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE ONTARIO PLANNERS PROFESSIONAL

INSTITUTE.

[END OF VIDEO]

>> SO WHEN WE GET BACK TO OUR CORRIDOR, THE FIRST THING THAT

WE DID WAS LOOK FOR -- WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF OPPORTUNITIES

AND CONSTRAINTS, OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS CONNECTING TO PARKS,

SCHOOLS, LOOKING FOR A THEMATIC IDENTITY; CONSTRAINTS SUCH

AS, YOU KNOW, EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY LIMITS, WHERE THERE MAY

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BE DRAINAGE ISSUES, SO ON.

SO THE THEME THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IS BASICALLY MANIFESTED

AROUND THE IDEA OF MATERIALS AND SIGNAGE, GATEWAYS, AND THEN

THE STREETSCAPE ITSELF.

MATERIALS AND SIGNAGE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS VERY CONSISTENT

WITH PLANT CITY'S HISTORIC CHARACTER, BRICK, THE CONCRETE,

AS WELL AS SOME OF THE METALS.

IN TERMS OF GATEWAYS, THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES IN OTHER

PLACES, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE SIGNAGE.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE BUMP-

OUTS, WHICH I'LL SHOW IN A MINUTE, AND I'LL -- AT THE END

WILL SHOW YOU A GATEWAY IMAGE THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED.

IN THEN TERMS OF THE STREETSCAPE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE THERE, FOR

EXAMPLE, IS SHADE TREES, YOU DO SEE THE BUMP-OUTS THERE WITH

THE ON-STREET PARKING, AWNINGS, AGAIN SIGNAGE, POSSIBLY FLAG

BANNERS ON LIGHT POSTS, SO ON.

NOW, AS WE WALK DOWN THE CORRIDOR, THE FIRST ZONE IS REALLY

THE DOWNTOWN PORTION.

THIS PORTION IS TODAY -- IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO ALABAMA

STREET.

TODAY IT'S A TWO-LANE FACILITY WITH ON-STREET PARKING.

WE'RE PROPOSING NOT TO CHANGE THAT.

THE ON-STREET PARKING WOULD STAY.

WE WOULD ADD BUMP-OUTS WHERE WE CAN TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES

FOR SHADE TREES, LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE, SO ON, AND THEN ADD A

SHARROW OR A SHARED USE DESIGNATION ON THE STREET FOR

BICYCLES.

NOW, AS WE MOVE DOWN, ZONE "B" IS REALLY WHERE THE MAJOR

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CHANGE OCCURS.

THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE MIDTOWN AREA THAT PLANT CITY'S

LOOKING TO REDEVELOP, AND SO TODAY WHAT YOU HAVE IS A FOUR-

LANE UNDIVIDED FACILITY, MEANING THERE'S NO TURN LANE, NO

CENTER TURN LANE, NO RAISED MEDIAN.

WE ARE PROPOSING THAT IN THE FIRST HALF OF THAT THAT IT

WOULD, IN FACT, BECOME A TWO-LANE FACILITY WITHOUT A CENTER

TURN LANE, WHICH ALLOWS TO YOU HAVE BIKE LANES THAT ARE

ACTUALLY BUFFERED FROM THE ROADWAY AS WELL AS ONE SIDE OF

PARALLEL PARKING, WHICH IS AT THE CITY'S SUGGESTION, AND

THEN AS WE MOVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN ON SEGMENT B-2,

WHICH IS SOUTH OF ALSOBROOK, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THERE IS WE

WOULD GO TO A TWO-LANE WITH A RAISED MEDIAN, THE PARALLEL

PARKING GOES AWAY, AND YOU HAVE A BIKE LANE.

AND THIS IS AT THE ALSOBROOK INTERSECTION.

IT WILL GIVE YOU KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING

ABOUT.

YOU CAN SEE AT THE NORTH END A TWO-LANE WITH A DOUBLE YELLOW

LINE AND THEN AT THE SOUTH PART AFTER THE TURN LANE, THERE

WOULD BE A RAISED MEDIAN.

AS WE MOVE DOWN INTO ZONE "C," THIS IS THE MORE SUBURBAN

CHARACTER SEGMENT OF THE CORRIDOR TODAY, A LOT OF BIG BOX

RETAIL AND SUCH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT

HERE IS THAT THIS AREA PROBABLY NEEDS TO MAINTAIN THE FOUR-

LANE FACILITY, AND THE TRANSITION FROM THE TWO BACK TO THE

FOUR WILL OCCUR HERE AT GRANT STREET, AND THIS IMAGE WILL

SHOW YOU HOW THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.

THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL COME OVER

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FROM GRANT, WHICH IS THE CONNECTOR BETWEEN COLLINS AND

ALEXANDER.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THIS SECTION BASICALLY IS,

AGAIN, KEEPING THE FOUR-LANE BUT WE'LL NARROW THE TRAVEL

LANES FROM 12 FOOT TO 11, AND IN SO DOING, WE'RE ABLE TO GET

A BIKE LANE ON BOTH SIDES IN THAT CASE AND A SMALL RAISED

MEDIAN IN THIS FIRST PART, AND THEN LATER, FURTHER DOWN IN

THE CORRIDOR, THE MEDIAN, IN FACT, WIDENS, AND, AGAIN, WE'LL

NARROW THE TRAVEL LANES IN ORDER TO GET A BIKE LANE IN, BUT

WE'LL HAVE THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND STREETSCAPING,

WIDER SIDEWALKS WHERE WE CAN TO CREATE A GOOD PEDESTRIAN

ZONE.

IN PLAN VIEW, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE SOUTH OF PARK OF WHAT WOULD

HAPPEN.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT ALSO ARE

OPPORTUNITIES TO CONSOLIDATE MEDIAN OPENINGS WHERE POSSIBLE,

WORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES WHEN THE STUDY TAKES ITS NEXT

STEP SO THAT YOU CAN GET A NICE UNIFORM LANDSCAPE MEDIAN IN

THERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN AT THE END -- KEEPING IN MIND, IF WE'RE WORKING

FROM DOWNTOWN SOUTH IS ONE VIEW, BUT THIS IS THE OTHER WAY,

WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING THE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMING NORTH.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A GATEWAY OPPORTUNITY HERE,

AND SO THIS IS SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE'VE COME UP

WITH WITH BRICK CROSSWALKS, A BRICK WALL ON EACH SIDE, AND

YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING THAT THEY MIGHT CALL IT THE COLLINS

STREET DISTRICT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IN THE CONCEPT PLAN, AND

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AS LISA SAID, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS ENDORSING OF THE

DRAFT CONCEPT FOR THE MOMENT, AND THAT'S IT.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

DIRECTOR LOTT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT?

I'VE GOT TO GO TO YOU FIRST.

>>RICK LOTT: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK -- PUT

THE BUTTON ON HERE.

I WANT TO THANK THE MPO AND THE BOARD FOR SUPPORTING THIS

STUDY.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON MIDTOWN FOR SOME TIME.

IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO RFP HERE LATER ON THIS YEAR, SO

SOMETIME IN THE NEXT PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS WE'RE

GOING TO SEE BIDS COME BACK ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO REDEVELOP

THE OLD LUMBER INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT MARRIES UP TO DOWNTOWN

PLANT CITY, SO THIS IS GOING TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF

GROWTH FOR DOWNTOWN PLANT CITY AND THE MIDTOWN AREA, AND

THIS CORRIDOR'S BEEN THE TRUCK ROUTE THAT'S GONE THROUGH THE

HEART OF THE CITY SINCE THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING, SO IT'S

BEEN A LONG PROJECT, AND THANKS TO FDOT AND THE MPO AND

EVERYONE THAT'S HELPED OUT, THIS NOW, YOU KNOW, PUTS THE

TRUCK ROUTE WHERE IT SHOULD BE AT AND ALLOWS US TO BUILD --

TO ENHANCE THE DOWNTOWN AND MIDTOWN AREA OF PLANT CITY, SO I

WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MPO FOR SUPPORTING THIS STUDY AND

FDOT FOR ALL THE HARD WORK TO MAKE IT A REALITY, AND IF YOU

DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD TO MOVE TO ACCEPT THIS

STUDY.

>>MARK SHARPE: FANTASTIC.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY DIRECTOR LOTT TO ACCEPT.

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>>LES MILLER, JR.: SECOND.

>>MARK SHARPE: AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MILLER.

WOULD YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OR ANY OTHER COMMENT

FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS?

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

EXCELLENT JOB, AND THANK YOU, MS. SILVA.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO GO TO THE STATUS REPORTS.

THE FIRST REPORT WE'VE GOT IS FROM THE SPECTACULAR JEFF

SEWARD OF HART.

HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE REGIONAL FAREBOX PROJECT.

WELCOME, MR. SEWARD.

GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING, SIR.

HOW ARE YOU?

JEFF SEWARD, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR HART.

THIS MORNING I GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON A PROJECT THAT WE ARE

VERY EXCITED ABOUT, NOT ONLY AT HART BUT THE OTHER TRANSIT

AGENCIES WITHIN FDOT DISTRICT 7.

THE REGIONAL WORKING GROUP FOR FARE COLLECTION IS SOMETHING

THAT HART INITIATED IN NOVEMBER OF 2012.

IT CONTAINS THE MEMBER AGENCIES OF FDOT DISTRICT 7 AS WELL

AS AGENCIES FROM FDOT DISTRICT 1, WHICH INCLUDE MANATEE AND

POLK COUNTY.

WE ALSO HAVE EXTENSIVE MEMBERSHIP AND ACTIVE PARTICIPATION

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FROM FDOT DISTRICT 7 MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

SO WHAT IS IT AND WHY ARE WE DOING IT?

FIRST, WHY A REGIONAL APPROACH?

THE QUESTION ITSELF SOUNDS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO THE

DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND

THROUGH THE REGION NOW.

TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE A NO-BRAINER TO LOOK AT REGIONAL

PROJECTS, BUT SOMETHING THAT -- THAT WE HAVE FOUND PRIMARILY

IN THE TRANSIT-RELATED WORLD IS THAT MANY OF THESE TYPES OF

PROJECTS ARE AGENCY CENTRIC, MEANING THE FUNDING IS SOUGHT

FOR THE AGENCY ITSELF FOR THEIR RETROGRADE, THE UPGRADE, OR

THE REPLACEMENT OF SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES PURSUANT TO THAT

AGENCY'S NEEDS.

WELL, AS YOU'RE ALL VERY AWARE OF, THE PARADIGM HAS SHIFTED

DRASTICALLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE AGENCIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT

ARE LOOKING FOR FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING, IT NEEDS TO HAVE

A REGIONAL FLAVOR TO IT AND NOT JUST A SLIGHT FLAVOR BUT A

TRUE TANGIBLE REGIONAL COMPONENT TO THE PROJECT TO BE

ELIGIBLE FOR BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING.

ANOTHER CATALYST IS THE NEED FOR INTEROPERABILITY OF FARE

MEDIA ACROSS CURRENT JURISDICTIONAL ROUTES.

RIGHT NOW WHEN OUR PASSENGERS TRANSFER FROM A HART BUS TO A

PSTA BUS OR A PSTA TO PASCO OR A HART TO PASCO, OUR

PASSENGERS ARE REQUIRED TO EXCHANGE FARE CARDS, BUY NEW FARE

CARDS.

THERE ISN'T A TRANSITIONAL FARE CARD TO GO BETWEEN THE

AGENCIES CURRENTLY.

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ALSO, JUST AS WE ARE DOING WITH OUR DIESEL FUEL PROCUREMENT

ACROSS THE REGION, THERE'S A POWER IN A JOINT PROCUREMENT.

WE CAN GET A BIGGER BANG FOR OUR -- ALL OF OUR AGENCIES'

BUCKS AS WELL AS THE STATE FUNDING AND FEDERAL FUNDING IF WE

GO IN IT TOGETHER.

AND THEN THE CATALYST THAT REALLY STARTED THE CONVERSATION

WAS THE FACT THAT ALMOST ALL THE AGENCIES HAVE

INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS DECADES OLD.

HART FOR AN EXAMPLE, OUR FAREBOX INFRASTRUCTURE IS 26 YEARS

OLD.

SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE

METRORAPID NORTH-SOUTH WAS -- I WAS VERY PLEASED TO SEE THE

NEW FAREBOXES ON THE BUSES BUT THEN TOTALLY UNPLEASED TO

FIND OUT THAT THEY WERE SIMPLY REGURGITATIONS OF PREVIOUS

FAREBOXES REPAINTED AND MADE TO LOOK REALLY NICE, SOMETHING

I WAS NOT AWARE OF UNTIL THIS PROJECT.

THE WORKING GROUP ITSELF, WHICH IS ALL FDOT DISTRICT 7

AGENCIES, OVER 20 YEARS OLD, THE TECHNOLOGY.

SO WHY ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT THAT TECHNOLOGY?

RIGHT NOW IT'S CASH, COIN, OR MAGNETIC STRIP RESPECTIVE ONLY

TO THAT AGENCY.

WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO UPGRADE, WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO ACCEPT

ANY NEW SORT OF PAYMENT OPTIONS EITHER, A SMART PHONE, A

DEBIT CARD, A SMART CARD.

WE HAVE NO ABILITY RIGHT NOW AS A REGION TO BE ABLE TO

UPGRADE OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEN WE HAVE BOARD AND COMMUNITY INTEREST.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WITHIN THE REGION THAT TRAVEL.

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THEY GO TO ATLANTA, THEY GO TO CHICAGO, THEY GO TO SAN

FRANCISCO, THEY GO TO NEW YORK AND ARE EXPOSED TO THIS NEW

TECHNOLOGY, COME BACK, WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT HERE?

HISTORIC RIDERSHIP ACROSS THE TAMPA BAY REGION, WE KNOW THAT

WE HAVE SEEN AN 18% INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP OVER THE LAST FEW

YEARS.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING ANOTHER HALF MILLION RIDERS FOR FISCAL

YEAR '14.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR PATRONS ON AND OFF OUR BUSES

AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, AND THIS WILL HELP FACILITATE THAT.

AND THEN AS ALL GOOD PROJECTS, THEY'RE DISCUSSED AND THEY'RE

DISCUSSED AND THEY'RE DISCUSSED, AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.

THIS WAS DISCUSSED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, NOT ONLY WITHIN

HART BUT THROUGHOUT THE REGION OF NEEDING SOMETHING LIKE

THIS, AND WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO PULL IT TOGETHER AND GET

IT MOVING.

SO, AGAIN, A WORKING GROUP WAS FORMED IN NOVEMBER 2012.

WE DEVELOPED A PROJECT CHARTER.

THE AGENCIES FORMULATED A CURRENT BASELINE OF THEIR

FUNCTIONALITY, AND INITIALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT A MULTI-YEAR

APPROACH TO THIS.

WE WERE GOING TO WORK OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS OF

REFINING OUR REQUIREMENTS, GETTING USED TO WORKING TOGETHER

AS A REGION.

WE HELD AN INDUSTRY DAY TO SEE WHAT WAS OUT THERE, BUT

FUNDING WAS IDENTIFIED MUCH SOONER THAN WE EVER ANTICIPATED

BY THE FDOT, SO WE WENT FROM THE 30,000-FOOT APPROACH TO THE

1,000-FOOT APPROACH ALMOST OVERNIGHT.

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THE WORKING GROUP ITSELF HAD TO PUT TOGETHER A FUNDING

APPLICATION BY MAY OF THIS YEAR.

WE DEVELOPED A MULTI-PHASED -- MULTI-FISCAL YEAR PHASED

APPROACH TO IMPLEMENTATION AND REVENUE COLLECTION.

THE PROJECT PROPOSAL TO FDOT WAS DRAFTED AND SUBMITTED, AND

THIS -- ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE MAJOR PARTS OF THE PROJECT THAT

I'M THE PROUDEST OF AND I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT WAS THE

ABILITY FOR US TO GET AN MOU BETWEEN HART, PSTA, AND POLK

ALL APPROVED IN A 30-DAY TIME PERIOD.

NOW, THAT AT TIMES SEEMS INSURMOUNTABLE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO

DO THAT, AND WHAT WE ESSENTIALLY DID WAS SET UP AN MOU.

ALL OF US ARE COMMITTED, ALL OF US ARE INVOLVED IN IT.

THE MOU IS THE INITIAL COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE

AGENCIES, OUTLINES A FOUR-YEAR FISCAL YEAR APPROACH, WHICH I

MENTIONED, ESTABLISHES HART AS THE DESIGNATED FUNDING

RECIPIENT -- WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THOSE PROCESS STEPS

NOW -- FORMALIZES THE WORKING GROUP INTO A TRUE REGIONAL

PROJECT, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT REALLY BEEN ABLE TO SAY

IN THE PAST, AND THEN WE HAVE SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT BY, OF

COURSE, THIS BODY AND TBARTA.

THE PROJECT APPROACH, WE HAVE A JPA BETWEEN HART AND FDOT.

SO WHERE ARE WE NOW?

WE -- LOOKING AT A TRUE REGIONAL PROJECT AND REGIONAL

APPROACH WITH MULTIPLE MEMBERS, THE WORKING GROUP,

PARTICULARLY PSTA MEMBERSHIP, APPROACHED TBARTA AND ASKED

FOR FUNDING IN A SMALL AMOUNT TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THE

WRITING OF THE SOLICITATION, THE STATEMENT OF WORK, AND THE

TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH AN RFP.

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THAT WORK IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

WE MET WITH THE CONSULTANT LAST WEEK ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE

REGIONAL WORKING GROUP TO START FINALIZING THAT STATEMENT OF

WORK.

OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A CONTRACT IN FRONT OF THE HART BOARD BY

DECEMBER, WHICH WOULD BE THE DECEMBER THE 4th BOARD MEETING,

TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE A VENDOR FOR THIS WORKING GROUP.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT WHERE ALL OF THE FDOT

DISTRICT 7 AGENCIES AS WELL AS THE TWO DISTRICT 1 AGENCIES

WILL BE BUYING THEIR RESPECTIVE FARE EQUIPMENT OFF OF OVER

THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

ALSO DURING THIS PROCESS OF THE SOLICITATION, WE ARE ALSO

LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT OF A REGIONAL FARE POLICY, WHICH WE

WILL NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE ONCE WE START TO MOVE FORWARD

WITH THE ACTUAL TECHNOLOGY.

THIS IS -- SOMETIMES WE GO BACK AND FORTH, THE CART BEFORE

THE HORSE.

TYPICALLY AGENCIES THAT DO THIS REGIONAL APPROACH WANT TO

HAVE THIS PIECE DONE AND SOLIDIFIED.

WE'RE ALL AT THE MERCY OF HOW THE FUNDING IS BEING LAID OUT,

AS WE ALWAYS ARE, SO WE'RE GETTING THE TECHNOLOGY FIRST AND

THEN COMING BACK AROUND AND WORKING ON THE RESPECTIVE

POLICIES.

SO THIS PHASED APPROACH, THE PHASE 1 PILOT OVERVIEW THAT

I'LL PROVIDE, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED -- OR FDOT HAS IDENTIFIED

$1.4 MILLION OF STATE FUNDING.

SINCE IT'S A REGIONAL PROJECT, THERE IS NO RESPECTIVE MATCH

REQUIRED OF THE LOCAL AGENCIES.

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PSTA -- PSTA'S PHASE 1 IMPLEMENTATION IS TO GET SMART CARD

TECHNOLOGY IMPLEMENTED ON ITS ENTIRE FLEET BY THE SUMMER --

OR BY NEXT SUMMER, BY THE SUMMER OF 2014.

THIS ISN'T THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FAREBOXES, IT WILL BE

EQUIPMENT THAT YOU PUT EITHER ON TOP OF THE FAREBOX OR

ATTACH IT TO THE DASHBOARD OR SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE ENTRY OF

THE VEHICLE WHERE A SMART CARD CAN BE SWIPED.

HART'S IMPLEMENTATION FOR PHASE 1 WILL BE ON ITS METRORAPID

NORTH-SOUTH SYSTEM.

WE WILL EXCHANGE OUT ALL OF OUR FAREBOXES AND THEY WILL BE

SMART CARD FUNCTIONAL.

AND THEN POLK COUNTY, THEY'RE GOING TO BUY A COUPLE OF

FAREBOXES AND SOME SOFTWARE JUST TO TEST IT.

THEY WILL BE COMING DOWN AND WATCHING OUR IMPLEMENTATION AT

HART TO SEE HOW THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD AS FUNDING BECOMES

AVAILABLE.

PHASE 2 FOR HART WILL BE THE EXPANSION TO HART'S ENTIRE

FLEET, PASCO WILL BE EXPANDING TO ITS FLEET, AND WE ARE ALSO

IN DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW -- CITRUS COUNTY HAD BEEN INVOLVED,

BUT THEY WERE SORT OF IN THE PERIPHERAL.

NOW THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ABLE TO BE FITTED INTO ONE OF THE

EARLY PHASES, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM RIGHT NOW TO SEE

WHAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE.

PHASE 3 WILL CONTINUE WITH HART IMPLEMENTATION, ADDITIONAL

TECHNOLOGY WILL BE ADDED TO PSTA, AND THE SUBSEQUENT PHASES

WILL INCLUDE MANATEE AND HERNANDO, BUT EARLIER PHASES CAN BE

ALTERED TO ACCOMMODATE AGENCY NEEDS.

SO AS FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE, AGENCIES THAT ARE FURTHER

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DOWN THE ROAD MAY DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT SOONER.

THE TOTAL PROJECT COST ESTIMATE IS 8.6.

OF THAT 8.6, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 1.4 MILLION IDENTIFIED, BUT,

AGAIN, IT'S A PHASED APPROACH.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS VERY METHODICALLY AS WE MOVE

FORWARD.

SO OUR NEXT STEPS, AGAIN, WE'RE STILL REFINING REQUIREMENTS

FOR OUR STATEMENT OF WORK WE HOPE TO HAVE ISSUED WITHIN THE

NEXT 60 DAYS.

WE'LL RELEASE A JOINT REGIONAL PROCUREMENT.

WE WILL WORK WITH THE AGENCIES FOR THE FARE STRUCTURE,

REGIONAL FARE COLLECTION PROCESSES.

WE HAVE THE QUESTIONS OF 30-DAY PASSES, MULTIPLE PASSES, HOW

ARE WE GOING TO SPLIT THE MONEY BETWEEN AGENCIES.

THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WORK OUT.

EVENTUALLY WE ENVISION SOMEONE FROM BRADENTON -- ENVISION

SOMEONE FROM BRADENTON WITH ONE FARE CARD BEING ABLE TO GET

ALL THE WAY TO PASCO OR TO LAKELAND WITH ONE FARE CARD.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE THE ROUTES THERE YET, BUT WE'RE

GETTING AT LEAST A FOUNDATION THERE.

ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH ARE

OTHER AGENCIES, PARTICULARLY WITH THE FDOT.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS, AND THE STATE ITSELF IS

LOOKING AT MOVING TO A ONE-CARD SYSTEM FOR ITS EXPRESSWAYS,

FOR ITS TOLL BOOTHS, FOR ITS SUNRAIL, FOR PARKING,

EXPRESSWAYS, AND SO ON, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS STAYING IN

LINE WITH THOSE CONVERSATIONS, SO AS THOSE CONVERSATIONS

MATURE, WHICH WILL BE YEARS FROM NOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE

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THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADOPT TO THAT NEED AS

WELL.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, SIR.

CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE GO TO GENERAL QUESTIONS

BECAUSE I --

>> YES, SIR.

>>MARK SHARPE: IS THERE A STATUTE SOMEWHERE THAT REQUIRES

US TO HAVE FAREBOXES IN BUSES?

I MEAN, ARE WE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THESE THINGS AND KEEP

THEM THERE FOR THE PURPOSES OF REMINDING PEOPLE THAT WE'RE,

LIKE, 50 YEARS BEHIND THE TIMES?

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE --

>>MARK SHARPE: I PERSONALLY -- IN FACT, I CHALLENGE -- I

LOVED RAY MILLER, AND WE USED TO TALK, AND I WOULD SAY, RAY,

EVERY SATURDAY, LET'S TAKE OUR SCREWDRIVERS, ME AND YOU,

WE'LL DO THE SIX-FOOT-TWO APPROACH AND WE'LL JUST GO PULL

THOSE SUCKERS OUT AND THEN IT'LL FORCE US TO COME UP WITH A

BETTER WAY TO PAY BECAUSE IT'S SLOW, IT LOOKS OLD AND DATED,

THEY LOOK LIKE STRAIGHT OUT OF SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SEE

RALPH KRAMDEN USING WHEN HE DROVE THE LITTLE BUSES.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS.

I MEAN --

>> WELL, WE DO HAVE -- WE DO HAVE THE REQUIREMENT TO BE ABLE

TO ACCEPT CASH FROM OUR PATRONS WHO HAVE NO OTHER FORM OF

PAYMENT.

WHAT WE WILL DO, HOWEVER, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS

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PROCESS, IS TO MAKE THAT SMART CARD TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE.

I SEE THE TIME WHEN OUR COUNT ROOM, OUR ROOM THAT WE COUNT

ALL OF OUR CASH IN ON A DAILY BASIS -- ITS REQUIREMENTS WILL

START TO SHRINK AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE MOVE OVER TO AN

ALTERNATE METHOD OF PAYMENT.

>>MARK SHARPE: BUT ARE THERE OTHER -- OTHER WAYS FOR US TO

EVEN COLLECT CASH RATHER THAN THAT FAREBOX?

IT'S -- EVEN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF JUST THE DELAY IN

GETTING PEOPLE ON THE BUS WHEN THEY'RE FUMBLING FOR CHANGE

AND DOLLARS AND RUNNING IT THROUGH THE MACHINE.

I KNOW IT'S A -- THE NEW FAREBOXES DO MOVE RAPIDLY, BUT

THERE HAVE GOT TO BE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES, I MEAN, EVEN A

BUCKET IN THE BACK OF THE BUS YOU COULD DROP THE MONEY IN.

I MEAN --

[LAUGHTER]

>> THERE ARE -- THERE ARE FAREBOXES THERE CALLED DIAMOND

FAREBOXES THAT HAVE NO TECHNOLOGY WHATSOEVER.

IT'S SIMPLY A BOX, A VISIBLE -- SEE-THROUGH BOX THAT SITS,

AND PEOPLE JUST -- IT'S ALMOST THE -- WELL, IT IS THE HONOR

SYSTEM, YOU JUST GO AND DROP THE MONEY IN, WHERE THE SMART

CARD TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY THE DRIVER.

SO WE'RE EXAMINING ALL FACETS OF THIS PROCESS, NOT JUST FOR

HART BUT THROUGH THE REGION, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME

QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP FROM THE COUNTIES FROM THE NORTH

WONDERING DO WE REALLY WANT NEW FAREBOXES OR DO WE JUST WANT

THE TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO SWIPE, GET ON AND OFF, AND DEAL

WITH THE CASH IN SOME OTHER FACET, SO THAT -- WE ARE GOING

TO LOOK AT THAT.

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>>MARK SHARPE: IN HONG KONG THEY HAVE THE OCTOPUS CARD, THE

SMART CARD WHICH IS PHENOMENALLY SUCCESSFUL.

I'M CURIOUS -- I DON'T KNOW, BUT DO THEY ALSO HAVE A

FAREBOX?

I KNOW THEY USED -- YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT MASSIVE RIDERSHIP,

EVERYONE USE -- EVERYONE RIDES THEIR SYSTEM, AND THE -- IF

YOU LOOK UP -- GOOGLE OCTOPUS CARD, IT'S AMAZING WHAT IT CAN

DO, BUT I'M CURIOUS, DO THEY ALSO USE A FAREBOX AND CAN WE

FIND OUT?

>> WE CAN FIND OUT.

>>MARK SHARPE: WONDERFUL.

DIRECTOR WAGGONER, AND THEN WE'LL JUST KIND OF MOVE FROM

LEFT TO RIGHT.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: JEFF, THIS IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT.

CONGRATULATIONS.

A QUESTION ON THIS PROCUREMENT YOU-ALL ARE DOING.

IS IT FOR THE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE?

DOES IT INCLUDE THE ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT COMPONENT?

>> IT DOES.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: IT DOES INCLUDE THAT.

WITH THAT IN MIND, I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU TAKE TOO BIG

OF A BITE AT THE APPLE.

YOU ALLUDED TO OTHER TRANSPORTATION-RELATED REVENUE

TRANSACTION SYSTEMS, AND WE IN THE TOLLING BUSINESS ARE

ENGAGING IN A CENTRALIZED CUSTOMER SERVICE SYSTEM, WHICH IS

BASICALLY AN ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE

STATEWIDE FOR ALL ELECTRONIC TOLLING.

IS THERE OPPORTUNITY TO INSERT INTO THE RFP THAT YOU PUT ON

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THE STREET THAT THE VENDOR PROVIDE AT LEAST SOME FUTURE LOOK

AT THE POTENTIAL OF INTEGRATING OR DOING TRANSACTIONS IN

PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CENTRALIZED CUSTOMER SERVICE SYSTEM?

>> YES, THERE ABSOLUTELY IS.

AND I SMILE.

AT THE LAST WORKING GROUP MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THE NEED

WITH FDOT THAT THE RFP NEEDS TO BE -- SINCE IT'S A FIVE-YEAR

IMPLEMENTATION AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER DISTRICTS PROBABLY

GETTING ONBOARD IN THAT TIME PERIOD, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO

HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT IS ADAPTABLE TO

ANYTHING COMING OUT IN THE FUTURE OF A CONSTRUCT THAT THE

STATE WOULD BE USING, BUT IF I COULD GET -- IF WE ALREADY

HAVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS ALREADY IDENTIFIED, AT LEAST AT A

CONCEPTUAL LEVEL, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PUT THOSE INTO THE

RFP.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.

JEFF, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT -- HERE'S A 20th CENTURY

INNOVATION, YOU KNOW.

THEY'VE BEEN USING THESE SWIPE CARDS OR MAGNETIC STRIPS FOR

YEARS IN CHICAGO, LET'S SAY.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO CASH

MANAGEMENT IS THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL PUTTING MONEY INTO THE

FAREBOX.

WE ARE NOT THE ONLY CITY IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS PEOPLE THAT

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ARE -- WHO ARE POOR WHO ARE RIDING THE BUSES.

WHY IS IT THAT WE'VE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF HAVING WHAT THEY

DO IN CHICAGO, WHICH IS ACCESS TO THESE CARDS ACROSS THE

CITY?

I MEAN, YOU CAN GO TO ANY DRUGSTORE IN THAT AREA AND BE ABLE

TO BUY A FARE CARD, AND, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT TO

ELIMINATE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GET THEIR ACCESS TO

BUSES, BUT HOW DO WE MAKE IT INTO A DIFFERENT -- A DIFFERENT

ENTRY POINT, BECAUSE I THINK FOR US ON THE BUS SIDE, WE WANT

TO RUN A BUS SYSTEM, WE'RE NOT THE BEST AT TAKING IN

PEOPLE'S CASH, AND, I MEAN, TO MAKE A GUY WHO IS TRAINED TO

DRIVE A BUS, MAKE IT SAFE, GET THERE ON TIME, AND TO TAKE

CASH MAKES NO SENSE TO ME, AND I THINK THAT -- I REITERATE

WHAT COMMISSIONER SHARPE HAS ALWAYS SAID WHICH IS THERE'S

GOTTA BE A BETTER WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT

AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO.

IS -- IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF THE WORKING GROUP STUDY,

LOOKING AT ALL THESE ASPECTS, BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE

SEAMLESS ACROSS JURISDICTIONAL LINES BUT ANOTHER THING TO BE

SEAMLESS ACROSS SOCIOECONOMIC LINES, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M

TALKING ABOUT.

HOW -- ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT TO MAKE IT AS EASY

AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET ONTO A BUS REGARDLESS OF WHAT

THEIR SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUND IS OR WHERE OR WHAT PART OF

THE CITY THEY'RE FROM?

>> YES.

WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT -- ONCE -- ONCE IT'S A REGIONAL

COMPONENT AND THE SOLICITATION MOVES FORWARD, WE CAN THEN

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SIT BACK AND START LOOKING AT, ALL RIGHT, HOW DO WE WANT TO

IMPLEMENT THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY?

WE'LL HAVE THE CROSS-JURISDICTIONAL ABILITY, BUT WE DO WANT

TO LOOK AT AND DO SOME PROCESS IMPROVEMENT ON HOW THIS COULD

AFFECT FOLKS GETTING ON AND OFF.

WHAT WE HAVE SEEN WITH PARTICULARLY THE VENDORS THAT HAVE

COME FORWARD TO DISCUSS THOSE THUS FAR WITH US, THIS TYPE OF

IMPLEMENTATION IN OTHER CITIES, IS THAT ACCESSIBILITY TO THE

CARD, WHERE THEY'RE AT WALGREENS, WHERE THEY'RE AT CVSs,

THEY'RE AT 7-ELEVENs, THEY'RE AT AMSCOTS, AND WE WOULD LOOK

AT SORT OF DILUTING THE AREA WITH THAT ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO

GET THAT CARD, ALSO THE ABILITY TO GO ON-LINE TO BE ABLE TO

DO IT, BUT, AGAIN, THAT'S A DEMOGRAPHIC ISSUE AS WELL.

BUT WE FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY THAT -- RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SOME

OUTLETS THAT SELL PASSES, BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS

SORT OF TAKE THESE -- GET TO THE MAINSTREAM, BE ABLE TO GET

THEM WHERE THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A CASH REGISTER AND IT

SAYS, HART SMART CARD, SWIPE IT, I WANT TO PUT TEN BUCKS ON

IT, DONE, AND THEY WALK RIGHT OUT OF THE STORE.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THANK YOU.

ACTUALLY, THE COUPLE OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ARE

THE SAME ONES I WAS GOING TO MAKE, BUT -- BUT I'M CURIOUS

ABOUT SOMETHING THAT -- THAT THE CHAIRMAN ASKED BEFORE ABOUT

THE REGULATION.

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WHERE DOES THAT REGULATION EXIST THAT WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE

FOLKS WHO ARE USING CASH?

>> IT WOULD BE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

OKAY.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> AND I'LL GET THE EXACT --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING.

WELL, BECAUSE -- AND THE OTHER --

>>MARK SHARPE: IT'S THE INTERP -- ARE WE TALKING TITLE VI?

BECAUSE I HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH THE WAY WE INTERPRET --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: WITH THE INTERPRETATION.

>>MARK SHARPE: -- THE WAY WE INTERPRET FEDERAL RULES.

OFTENTIMES -- AND I'M NOT -- AND MR. SEWARD, IT'S

PHENOMENAL, I THINK HART'S DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT I FIND

THAT WHAT WE WILL DO IN OUR INTERPRETATION OF THOSE RULES IS

FIGURE OUT A WAY NOT TO DO SOMETHING.

WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A LINE FROM POINT "A" TO POINT "B," AND

WE'LL COME UP AND SAY, WE'RE NOT SURE IF WE CAN DO THAT

BECAUSE BY DOING THAT SOMEHOW IN A WAY WE'RE TAKING AWAY OR

DIMINISHING OUR PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE

AT THE LOWEST SOCIOECONOMIC RUNG, AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID

ANYTIME YOU EXPAND A LINE, YOU'RE PROVIDING THE LOWEST

SOCIOECONOMIC RUNG AN OPPORTUNITY TO RIDE, AND WE DO THE

EXACT SAME THING WITH FARE CARDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WE ASSUME THAT THOSE AT THE LOWEST LEVEL OF SOCIOECONOMIC

RUNG DON'T HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO SWIPE -- TO USE THE

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TECHNOLOGIES THAT EVERYONE ELSE CAN USE, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY

EXPAND OUR ABILITY TO MOVE AND RIDE AND ALSO MOVE QUICKLY,

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING EXPANDS

OPPORTUNITY BUT ALSO SPEEDS IT UP AND RESPECTS THOSE WHO ARE

RIDING THE BUS AND WANT TO GET THERE -- TO A SPOT ON TIME

AND NOT BE DELAYED.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: RIGHT.

AND --

>>MARK SHARPE: I KNOW COMMISSIONER MILLER'S GOING TO MAKE A

POINT, BUT DID YOU WANT TO --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: YEAH.

I --

>>MARK SHARPE: GO AHEAD.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: BECAUSE I'M WONDERING -- YOU KNOW, WE

STILL HAVE, AS YOU NOTED, INDIVIDUALS WHO PAY CASH, BUT

THAT'S LIKE JUDGING HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE USING A

PARTICULAR TYPE OF PAYMENT FORM WHEN THAT'S THE ONLY PAYMENT

FORM WE ACCEPT, SO --

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>>LISA MONTELIONE: -- SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN

EXTRAPOLATE THAT WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE USING CASH AS THEIR

PREFERRED METHOD OF PAYMENT.

IT'S THE ONLY METHOD OF PAYMENT IN SOME -- IN SOME

INSTANCES.

AND I REITERATE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID, IF YOU MAKE THAT

CARD AVAILABLE OR SAY AS OF, YOU KNOW, SUCH-AND-SUCH A DATE

SWAP YOUR CASH FOR A CARD, WE CAN MOVE BEYOND THAT, AND AS

WELL I CAUTION ABOUT MAKING THIS SO LARGE AND THEN WE GET

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STUCK WITH ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY AND TECHNOLOGY MOVES SO FAST

THAT WE'VE MADE A $10-MILLION -- YOU'VE HAD AN $8.6-MILLION

INVESTMENT, AND BY THE TIME WE GET IT IMPLEMENTED ACROSS ALL

THESE COUNTIES, IT'S ALREADY ANTIQUATED.

I MEAN, FOLKS ARE USING SQUARE AND OTHER -- AND INTUIT, YOU

KNOW, WITH THEIR CELL PHONES, AND THE TECHNOLOGY IS

PORTABLE, IT'S EASILY CHANGED OUT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT

YOU'RE MARRIED TO FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, SO THOSE ARE THE

ONLY COMMENTS I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: COMMISSIONER MILLER.

>>LES MILLER, JR.: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

LET ME SAY THAT -- THAT EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE

LOWER -- THE LOWER PART OF THE SOCIOECONOMIC SCALE STILL CAN

SWIPE CARDS.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE MECHANISM TO DO THAT.

IN FACT, IN MANY INSTANCES, EVEN WITH THE GOVERNMENT

SUBSIDIES, THEY USE A LOT OF SWIPE CARDS, I UNDERSTAND THAT,

BUT THE POINT ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND HAVING THAT

AS PART OF THEIR REGULATIONS, HAVING TO DEAL WITH THEM FOR

MANY, MANY YEARS IN THE LEGISLATURE AS WE DID, ONE OF THE

FIRST THINGS THEY WILL TELL YOU WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT DOING

SOMETHING IS THAT YOU'RE JEOPARDIZING YOUR FUNDING,

CONSTANTLY YOU'RE JEOPARDIZING YOUR FUNDING.

EVEN WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH PRISONS, WHEN WE WERE DEALING

WITH CARDS, WITH EPT CARDS, THE WHOLE WORKS, AND CERTAIN

THINGS WE WANT TO DO IN THE LEGISLATURE, THEY WOULD ALWAYS

COME BACK AND SAY, YOU'RE JEOPARDIZING YOUR FUNDING, SO I

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CAN UNDERSTAND THAT POINT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYING,

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO THIS BECAUSE YOU MIGHT JEOPARDIZE

YOUR FUNDING.

SO IF YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE, THEY CAN'T EVEN

BALANCE A BUDGET IN WASHINGTON.

IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I

CAN UNDERSTAND THE POINT THAT WE MIGHT WANT DO IT AND WE

MIGHT WANT TO INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT WHEN YOU START

DOING THAT, THE FEDS WILL COME DOWN AND SAY, YOU KNOW,

YOU'RE VIOLATING WHAT WE PUT FORTH AND YOU'RE JEOPARDIZING

FUNDING, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY

CAREFUL ABOUT.

>>MARK SHARPE: AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.

I THINK THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION, ESPECIALLY SECRETARY FOXX

AND OTHERS, I THINK ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH US.

I'M REALLY CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL TRY TO FIND A WAY TO

POSITIVELY WORK WITH THEM AND THEN, AGAIN, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY

RIGHT, COMMISSIONER MILLER, IF WE FIND THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING

IS GOING TO JEOPARDIZE OUR FUNDING, WE DON'T WANT DO THAT,

BUT MY FRUSTRATION HAS BEEN OFTENTIMES, NOT JUST WITH THIS

AGENCY BUT OTHERS, THERE'S A TENDENCY WHEN WE DON'T WANT TO

DO SOMETHING, TO SIMPLY STATE, WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE

ABLE TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, OUR READING OF THE FEDERAL REGS

WON'T ALLOW US, AND THERE ARE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN READ

THOSE REGS AND BE AS INNOVATIVE AS POSSIBLE TO COME UP WITH

SOME QUICK WAYS TO BRING MORE PEOPLE TO THE BUS SYSTEM AND

MAKE IT FASTER.

DR. POLZIN?

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NO?

NO, SIR.

FANTASTIC.

>> THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AT THE HART

MEETING.

>> THANKS.

>>MARK SHARPE: OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS FROM DIRECTOR

WAGGONER, AND IT'S THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.

SPEAKING OF REGULATION, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF

REGULATION THERE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THIS

PRESENTATION.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: THAT DISCUSSION ON REGULATIONS AND WHO

INTERPRETS THEM, IF YOU WORK WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,

THEY DO TEND TO TAKE THE MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

>>MARK SHARPE: YES, SIR.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: JUST A COMMENT, HAVING WORKED WITH THEM.

AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, NOW FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT OUR

FUTURE.

AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES IS A TRANSPORTATION TOPIC THAT COULD

HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF IMPACT TO OUR SOCIETY AS THE

DEVELOPMENT OF RAILROADS AND AUTOMOBILES.

THE INTRODUCTION OF AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES COULD SIGNIFICANTLY

REDUCE THE 35,000 -- 36,000 ANNUAL TRAFFIC FATALITIES WE

HAVE A YEAR, SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE $450 BILLION IN

ECONOMIC LOSSES ANNUALLY FROM ACCIDENTS, AND THE $200

BILLION IN ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE EVERY YEAR FROM TRAFFIC

CONGESTION.

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AT THE SAME TIME, IT COULD DRAMATICALLY INCREASE CAPACITY ON

EXISTING AND FUTURE TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES.

THIS WILL SIMULTANEOUSLY CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

INNOVATIVE FIRMS TO INTRODUCE A RANGE OF CREATIVE NEW

BUSINESS MODELS.

THESE ARE A FEW QUOTES FROM A KPMG WHITE PAPER THAT WE SENT

TO YOU.

IT SHOULD BE THIS DOCUMENT HERE FOR YOUR READING AT A LATER

TIME.

THESE -- JUST A LIST OF THESE QUOTES, I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE

LAST QUOTE, FOR THOSE WHO EMBRACE INNOVATION AND OPT TO LEAD

RATHER THAN FOLLOW, A NEW FRONTIER IS OPENING IN THE REALM

OF MOBILITY SERVICES.

THE IDEA OF AUTOMATED VEHICLES HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.

PROGRESS IN THE LAST FIVE TO TEN YEARS, HOWEVER, HAS

EXCEEDED THAT IN THE PRIOR 30 YEARS.

THIS IS A LIST OF SOME OF THAT TECHNOLOGY THAT IS IN YOUR

CARS TODAY.

TODAY'S VEHICLES INCLUDE SYSTEMS LIKE REAR AUTOMATIC

BRAKING, FULL-SPEED ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL, BRAKE ASSIST,

COLLISION ALERT AND PREPARATION, LANE DEPARTURE WARNING,

BLIND ZONE ALERTS, AND REAR VISION AND HEADS-UP DISPLAY.

THESE STATES -- THREE STATES HAVE RESPONDED WITH LEGISLATION

TO ALLOW OPERATION OF AUTOMATED VEHICLES IN THEIR STATES,

AND FLORIDA IS ONE OF THOSE.

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION.

MANY PREDICT THE VEHICLE FLEET 20 TO 30 YEARS FROM TODAY

WILL BE CAPABLE OF AUTOMATED DRIVING.

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PLANNERS NEED TO CONSIDER THIS TODAY.

THIS TECHNOLOGY IS NOT JUST FOR EXPRESSWAYS, IT COULD

DRAMATICALLY REDUCE VEHICLE-RELATED PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE

ACCIDENTS.

A VEHICLE THAT SEES DOES NOT NEED TO BE SEEN.

THIS TECHNOLOGY IS IN TODAY'S CARS.

THERE IS A MERCEDES COMMERCIAL SHOWING A CHILD STEPPING IN

FRONT OF A CAR, THE CAR STOPPING BEFORE THE DRIVER TAKES ANY

ACTION AT ALL.

THERE'S ANOTHER THAT SHOWS A CAR BACKING OUT OF A DRIVEWAY,

AND, AGAIN, THE CAR STOPS BEFORE THE DRIVER IS AWARE OF THE

PROBLEM.

IS THIS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US?

THE QUESTION I ASK IS COULD TAMPA BAY GO FROM WORST TO FIRST

IN PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE SAFETY WITH THIS KIND OF

INNOVATION?

OPPORTUNITIES: THEA ASSETS COULD BENEFIT FROM SUCH

TECHNOLOGY.

THAT BENEFIT WOULD REQUIRE INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION

SYSTEMS TO ENABLE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN VEHICLES AND

INFRASTRUCTURE.

IN THEORY, IT COULD DOUBLE THE CAPACITY OF OUR FACILITY IN A

SAFER MANNER AND AT A MUCH LOWER COST THAN BUILDING NEW

LANES.

OUR PROPOSED BUS TOLL LANE SOLUTION WOULD BENEFIT AS WELL.

THE MANAGED LANE TARGET PER LANE OF 1500 VEHICLES PER HOUR

COULD GROW BY AS MUCH AS 3,000 VEHICLES PER LANE PER HOUR

WITH NO IMPACT TO SPEED OR RELIABILITY.

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THE READING I'VE DONE ON THIS TOPIC SAYS THE FIRST --

SUGGESTS THAT THE FIRST PLACE LIKELY TO IMPLEMENT SUCH

TECHNOLOGY IS MANAGED LANES LIKE BUS TOLL LANES OR OTHER

MANAGED LANE CONCEPTS THAT ARE BEING PUT ON THE STREET

TODAY.

THE QUESTION THEA IS POSING IS CAN THEA, THE FLORIDA

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AND TAMPA BAY BE PART OF

MAKING THIS HAPPEN SOONER?

THE TECHNOLOGY IS HERE.

IT CAN GET BETTER, BUT THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THE BIGGEST

CHALLENGE.

HURDLES THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED AND WHERE INSTITUTIONS LIKE

THE CENTER FOR URBAN TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH MAY HELP ARE

QUESTIONS OF POLICY, LEGISLATION, LIABILITY INSURANCE

QUESTIONS, AND REGULATION.

THESE STRATEGIES ARE NEEDED TO BRING ABOUT A THOUGHTFUL,

SPEEDY INTRODUCTION OF THE TECHNOLOGIES.

LEADERSHIP IS NEEDED TO HELP MAKE THIS HAPPEN, AND THAT

LEADERSHIP NEEDS GOOD INFORMATION TO ACT UPON.

THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

TAMPA BAY AND CUTR CAN AGAIN BECOME LEADERS IN DEVELOPMENT

OF POLICY LEGISLATION REGULATION NECESSARY TO MAKE THIS

REVOLUTION HAPPEN SOONER.

ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, TECHNOLOGY FEEDS TECHNOLOGY, THE

ADVANCEMENT OF AUTOMATED VEHICLES FED FROM MANY SOURCES.

IT IS NOT THE ENGINE OR FUEL SOURCE THAT WILL MAKE THIS

DRAMATIC SHIFT, IT IS THE ADVANCEMENT OF COMPUTERS AND

COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE, THAT IS MAKING

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THIS POSSIBLE, THE SAME TYPE OF ADVANCEMENTS THAT ALLOWED

THE CREATION OF THE CENTER FOR ADVANCED MEDICAL LEARNING AND

SIMULATION, CAMLS.

CAMLS COMBINES CUTTING-EDGE SIMULATION WITH RESEARCH AND

INNOVATION TO MOVE THE LATEST ADVANCES IN HEALTH CARE INTO

PRACTICE.

THE MAYOR OF TAMPA SAID, TAMPA IS THE CATALYST -- CAMLS IS

THE CATALYST FOR AN ECONOMIC REVIVAL REVOLVING AROUND USF

AND ITS HEALTH FACILITIES.

DO AUTOMATED VEHICLES' TECHNOLOGIES OFFER ANOTHER SUCH

OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY?

OPPORTUNITY FOR TAMPA BAY: WE HAVE GOOD TOOLS FOR

IMPLEMENTATION AND TESTING, FORWARD-THINKING TRANSPORTATION

AGENCIES LIKE THEA AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF

TRANSPORTATION.

FOR POLICY DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED

RESEARCH INSTITUTES LIKE CUTR.

FOR BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE A STRONG ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND SUPPORTIVE

EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.

WITH THESE THOUGHTS IN MIND, THEA'S BOARD AUTHORIZED A

CUTR -- A STUDY WITH CUTR TO ASSIST POTENTIALS OF TESTING

AND IMPLEMENTATION, POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND REGULATION, AND

BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES.

THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WHEN THEY HEARD

ABOUT THIS ACTION BY OUR BOARD, CALLED TO ASK IF WE WOULD BE

INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH THEM ON A SUMMIT TO BE HELD

THIS FALL IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.

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WE, OF COURSE, SAID ABSOLUTELY.

SO OUR EFFORTS ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, AND WE'VE TENTATIVELY

SET A DATE FOR NOVEMBER 14th AND 15th.

PLEASE CONSIDER THIS PRESENTATION AN INVITATION TO THE

TOPIC, AND I HOPE YOU WILL RESERVE SOME TIME ON YOUR

CALENDARS FOR THE SUMMIT THAT WE ARE PLANNING.

TO ME THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY KNOCKING FOR THOSE WHO EMBRACE

INNOVATION AND OPT TO LEAD RATHER THAN FOLLOW.

I BELIEVE A NEW FRONTIER IS OPENING IN THE REALM OF MOBILITY

SERVICES, AND THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: FANTASTIC.

COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?

>>SANDRA MURMAN: [INAUDIBLE] ONE.

>>MARK SHARPE: YES, MA'AM, COMMISSIONER MURMAN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. WAGGONER, FOR THIS VERY INSIGHTFUL

PRESENTATION.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I PERSONALLY THANK YOU FOR OPENING UP THE

EXTRA LANE ON THE CROSSTOWN GOING EAST --

>>LES MILLER, JR.: YOU'RE WELCOME.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: -- THROUGH DOWNTOWN.

I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH THAT HAS CHANGED PEOPLE'S LIVES,

SO I APPRECIATE IT.

YOUR CREWS ARE WORKING OVERTIME.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

THE EASTBOUND LANES ON THE LEE ROY SELMON EXPRESSWAY, THOSE

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TWO LANES ARE OPEN.

THE OTHER LANE WILL BECOME OPEN LATER IN SEPTEMBER FOR THE

BRIDGE DECK WIDENING REPLACEMENT, AND D.O.T. IS WORKING HARD

ON THE I-4/SELMON EXPRESSWAY CONNECTOR TO HAVE THAT OPEN TO

TRAFFIC BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, SO --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: AWESOME.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: -- A LITTLE MORE PATIENCE AND WE WILL

HAVE SOME WONDERFUL NEW SERVICES IN PLACE.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: I HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND I ASKED SECRETARY

STEINMAN ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

GOOGLE HAD EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN COMPETING FOR THE HIGH-

SPEED RAIL CONNECTION IN CALIFORNIA AND HAD SUGGESTED THEY

COULD COME UP WITH A SIGNIFICANTLY LESS EXPENSIVE CONNECTION

USING GOOGLE TECHNOLOGY FOR -- I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS

GOOGLE RAIL, I DON'T KNOW, BUT SMART TECHNOLOGY.

I WOULDN'T -- I'M SURE THEY'RE -- SINCE THEY'VE GOT IMPLANTS

OR ARE PUTTING IT IN THEIR HEAD, I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO

HAVE A RAIL SYSTEM, BUT I DO WONDER, THOUGH, WHEN YOU HAVE

SMART CAR TECHNOLOGY, IS IT FEASIBLE THAT WE COULD HAVE

SMART BUS, SMART RAIL TYPE -- A TECHNOLOGY WHERE WE EVEN USE

DEDICATED LANES BUT WE TAKE THAT NEXT STEP BEYOND THE LIGHT

RAIL, THE FIXED RAIL WHERE WE'RE USING -- WE'RE MOVING

PEOPLE BY BUS OR BY A -- SOMETHING LONGER, POTENTIALLY,

RAIL-LIKE, BUT USING TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS THIS INSTEAD OF

RELYING ON THE RAIL SYSTEM, WHICH FOR SOME PEOPLE SEEMS TO

BE CONSIDERED AN OLDER TECHNOLOGY?

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>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: WITHOUT ANY IDEA WHAT GOOGLE'S TALKING

ABOUT WITH REGARD TO RAIL SERVICE -- I WON'T GO THERE AT

ALL --

>>MARK SHARPE: ARE WE GOING TO INVITE THEM TO OUR NOVEMBER

SUMMIT?

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: THEY WILL BE TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR

TECHNOLOGY WITH REGARD TO VEHICLES.

>>MARK SHARPE: AND WHAT ABOUT MR. MUSK AND HIS HYPERLOOP,

ARE WE GOING TO ASK HIM TO COME TOO?

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE SAME TOPIC.

THAT MIGHT BE A RAIL DISCUSSION MORE SO THAN WHAT YOU HAVE

OUT THERE AS EXISTING HIGHWAY FACILITIES AND WHAT YOUR

FUTURE VEHICLE AND RUBBER TIRE AND CONCRETE TYPE SOLUTIONS

MIGHT BE.

TO ADDRESS THE -- THE QUESTION OF TRANSIT IN THIS CONCEPT,

IF -- THE BUS TOLL LANE CONCEPT IS ALL ABOUT PROVIDING

ENHANCED TRANSIT SERVICE IN TERMS OF RELIABILITY AND SPEED,

GIVING IT AN ADVANTAGE TO A PERSONAL VEHICLE AS A CHOICE,

MAKE IT A COMPETITIVE CHOICE.

WHAT THIS TECHNOLOGY OFFERS IN THAT MANAGED LANE, YOU

COULD -- INSTEAD OF HAVING TO ONLY ALLOW 1500 VEHICLES PER

LANE IN THERE, YOU COULD DOUBLE THAT.

WELL, THAT ALSO SAYS YOU COULD DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF BUSES

THAT SERVICE COULD PROVIDE AND EASILY PROVIDE A SAFER,

FASTER TRIP.

SO IT'S ALL ABOUT LOOKING AT YOUR POTENTIALS AND RECOGNIZING

WHAT MIGHT BE THE FUTURE SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS OUR NEEDS

TODAY.

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I THINK WE'LL STILL NEED EVERY TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX.

THERE IS NOT ONE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION I WOULD THROW AWAY

OR DISREGARD IN THIS MATTER, AND A LARGE PART OF THIS STUDY

IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW REAL AND WHEN BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE A

SIGNIFICANT PENETRATION OF THE MARKET AND THE FLEET TO MAKE

THIS KIND OF APPLICATION POSSIBLE, AND THE REASON THE

TECH -- THE DISCUSSIONS TALK ABOUT MANAGED LANES FIRST IS

BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IN TIME, MAYBE IT'S TEN YEARS, MAYBE

IT'S 15 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'LL HAVE ENOUGH FLEET PENETRATION

WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU CAN OFFER A RESTRICTED LANE

FOR USE OF THIS AND INCREASE THE CAPACITY IN THAT LANE, AND

IT WOULD TAKE ANOTHER TEN TO 15 YEARS TO GET FULL FLEET

PENETRATION TO WHERE YOU MIGHT SEE THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT OF

THIS.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTS, THOUGH, THAT FROM PLANNING

TO IMPLEMENTATION TYPICALLY TAKE TEN YEARS FROM THE TIME YOU

THINK ABOUT IT TO THE TIME IT OPENS UP, THIS IS WHERE, IN MY

OPINION, IF THIS TECHNOLOGY'S TEN TO 20 TO 30 YEARS AWAY, WE

OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS TODAY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT

OUR SOLUTIONS WITHIN THAT PLANNING HORIZON.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU.

DR. POLZIN.

>>STEVE POLZIN: YEAH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS.

YOU'RE CORRECT, AND WE ARE LOOKING, IN FACT, AT HOW THIS

INTERFACES WITH TRANSIT, AND THERE'S BOTH COMPETITIVE AND

COMPLEMENTARY ASPECTS.

OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF THE SAME TECHNOLOGIES CAN BE DEPLOYED TO

INCREASE SAFETY AND PERFORMANCE OF TRANSIT.

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ON THE OTHER HAND, A COUPLE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS OF

PARTICULARLY RAIL IS YOU'RE SUBSTITUTING CAPITAL TO SAVE

LABOR AT THE ULTIMATE -- THE TECHNOLOGY REPLACES LABOR, SO

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SAME BENEFIT.

THE OTHER THING YOU DO IN PUBLIC TRANSIT IS YOU CLUSTER AND

GROUP PEOPLE TOGETHER.

AGAIN, THE TECHNOLOGY ENABLES SMALLER VEHICLES TO BE GROUPED

TIGHTER TOGETHER, SO YOU'D GET SOME OF THAT PHYSICAL SPACE

SAVING AND INFRASTRUCTURE SAVINGS THROUGH THE TECHNOLOGY,

BUT THOSE WILL BE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IN

THE NOVEMBER FORUM THAT HE REFERENCED AND BEYOND.

>>MARK SHARPE: FANTASTIC.

ANYONE ELSE?

COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: I JUST THINK THIS IS TREMENDOUSLY

EXCITING, AND THE MORE I READ ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE

AVAILABLE TO US IN THE FUTURE, THE MORE EXCITING IT BECOMES,

AND -- AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY ONE -- ONE STATEMENT IN HERE

THAT REALLY CAUGHT MY EYE, PAGE 7.

IT SAYS -- THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE, AND THEY LIVE

PERPETUALLY CONNECTED LIVES, AND WHILE THEY MAY HAVE THE

SAME DESIRE FOR MOBILITY ON DEMAND, SOME SEE THE ACT OF

DRIVING AS A DISTRACTION FROM TEXTING AND NOT THE OTHER WAY

AROUND.

[LAUGHTER]

AND -- AND IN THIS TIME, AS WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE

JUST TODDLING AROUND OUR LIVING ROOMS AS GRANDCHILDREN NOW

AND THEY ENTER THE DRIVING WORLD, IT'S GOING TO BE

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COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, AND I THINK THAT SOME OF US WERE --

AVAILED OURSELVES OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE

PRESENTATION FROM THE STANFORD CHANGELABS FOLKS, AND THEY --

YOU KNOW, THEY -- TALK ABOUT CUTTING EDGE, THE RESEARCH THAT

THEY DO OUT THERE IS JUST -- IT MAKES MY HEAD SPIN, BUT --

BUT WHAT THEY TALK ABOUT TOO IS -- IS NOT EVERY PERSON IS

GOING TO BE SATISFIED BY ONE TYPE OF SYSTEM, SO, YOU KNOW,

ANY -- ANY BUS OR RAIL OR GROUP TYPE OF MOBILITY IS NOT

PERSONALIZED ENOUGH WHEN YOU CAN GET YOUR CELL PHONE IN A

DIFFERENT COLOR AND YOU CAN CHANGE THE APPS TO SUIT

YOURSELF, AND ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE HIGHLY PERSONALIZED,

SO I THINK THAT WE ARE MOVING FROM TRYING TO HAVE ONE THING

THAT -- THAT SPEAKS TO ALL PEOPLE, THAT WE'LL HAVE MULTIPLE

TECHNOLOGIES AND MULTIPLE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION AND WE

WON'T BE LOCKED INTO ONE, SO DESIGNING A SYSTEM LIKE A

MANAGED LANE TO ACCOMMODATE -- I MEAN, WE'RE TAKING BABY

STEPS BECAUSE A MANAGED LANE CAN ACCOMMODATE A CAR WITH ONE

PERSON IN IT, IT COULD ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, A CARPOOL, IT

COULD ACCOMMODATE A BUS, IT COULD ACCOMMODATE -- YOU KNOW,

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIXED RAIL OR WHATEVER ALL THE DIFFERENT

TECHNOLOGIES ARE, SO YOU'RE DESIGNING ONE SPACE THAT CAN

ACCOMMODATE MULTIPLE TYPES OF TECHNOLOGY AND OPEN UP CHOICES

TO PEOPLE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS THE SUCCESS IS WHEN

PEOPLE HAVE PERSONAL CHOICE AND THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT

SPEAKS TO THEM.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, SIR.

>>JOSEPH WAGGONER: THANK YOU.

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>>MARK SHARPE: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: OKAY.

I JUST HAVE TO ADD ONE COMMENT.

I LOVE ALL THIS STUFF, BUT I'M NOT GIVING UP MY '65 IMPALA,

SO MAKE SURE IT ACCOMMODATES CLASSIC -- CLASSIC CARS.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT MEETING COMING UP ON

SEPTEMBER 13th.

THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING OF OUR JOINT TMA OF PASCO,

PINELLAS, AND HILLSBOROUGH.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER MURMAN AND COMMISSIONER SEEL FROM

PINELLAS COUNTY HAVE BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL OF GETTING THIS

GOING, SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THAT

ORGANIZATION GOING TO DO AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, HOW

WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER, SO I ENCOURAGE ANY OF THE

BOARD MEMBERS THAT CAN POSSIBLY ATTEND THAT MEETING TO COME,

THAT'S AN IMPORTANT MEETING, TO SHOW HILLSBOROUGH IN A

LEADERSHIP ROLE ON THIS THREE-COUNTY GROUP.

I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT ANOTHER IMPORTANT MEETING COMING

UP WILL BE OCTOBER 10th.

OUR CHAIR HAS BEEN IN THE LEAD ON CREATING A REGIONAL SUMMIT

WHERE WE LEARN ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS GOING ON IN CENTRAL

FLORIDA SUCH AS SUNRAIL, ALL ABOARD FLORIDA, SOME OF THE

THINGS GOING ON IN OUR OWN AREA AND THE OTHER COUNTIES AND

HAVE SOME IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS ON ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS

OCCURRING.

THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE GET INTO OUR LONG-RANGE

TRANSPORTATION PLANNING EFFORT.

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OUR NEXT MPO MEETING IS COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 24th AT

9:00 A.M., AND THEN -- I'M SORRY, THAT'S OUR POLICY

COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THE MPO MEETING WILL BE OCTOBER 1st.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE 20 -- IMAGINE

2040.

PLEASE ENCOURAGE YOUR FRIENDS, WHOEVER, TO PARTICIPATE IN

THAT.

WE'RE GETTING GOOD RESPONSE.

I FOUND BY ACTUALLY SENDING OUT FACEBOOK THINGS TO MY

FRIENDS, PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OKAY, I'M GOING DO IT, SO

HOWEVER YOU CAN DO THAT, THIS IS KIND OF A HIGH-TECH WAY OF

PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY

TOOK TEN MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE THE

FUTURE BE LIKE, AND THAT WOULD FAR SURPASS ANY EFFORT WE'VE

BEEN EVER ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST, SO IT'S AN IMPORTANT

EFFORT.

IT GOES ON UNTIL OCTOBER 20th, SO IF YOU WOULD ENCOURAGE

PEOPLE YOU KNOW OR CONSTITUENTS TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE

VERY -- VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: ANY OLD BUSINESS OR NEW BUSINESS?

WE STAND ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

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