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Cannon & Kayfaber = the Same

you decide!! and still won't refund my money

http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=103786

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=422442

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I guess welcome to the Fourm...now what happened? Why do you want a refund?

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I am sorry for your situation but this matter does not involve me and I do not want to get

involved with this thread I am on this site to enjoy my hobby and I will be backing away

from this thread. I wish you the best of luck with your dilemma.

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New to me SMP Chrono arrived

Here are some quick pics, this just arrived today...

Nice condition for a pre-owned, I did a little clean-up on the clasp and it looks great now.

Thanks to CharlieB, he convinced me to give the SS bezel a chance and I love it.

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Well done Pete its outstanding. Gorgeous Omega

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Loooove the look of that Pete! Congrats on a BEAUTY of an Omega!

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Awesome watch! There's not a bad Seamaster, no convincing on any color necessary for me

Looks great for being pre-owned, not sure anyone could tell.

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Beautiful Omega timepiece, Congrats!!!

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Congratulations looks beautiful and the SS white bezel outstanding.Wear and enjoy!

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Very nice - I want it! What's the case size on that one?

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Very nice - I want it!

What's the case size on that one?

Officially it is listed as 41mm, looks more like a 42, but wears a tad larger.

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Pete...welcome to the club!!! the more you wear it, the more you will love it. when i wear mine to work, my performance dips dramatically...too busy looking at my wrist to

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very nice,congrats

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Congratulations on your new Omega. You will absolutely love wearing that watch. I am

wearing my blue dial blue bezel now.

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Yey Pete!!! Congrats brutha, you now sport on your wrist what I humbly consider

to be the most immpecibly perfect designed watch in the history of the world!

If you love yours half as much as I love mine, you're gonna be a very happy man.

Take good care of it and enjoy it for a lifetime.

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That's the final straw!

I'm looking into a bone reduction on my wrist! If Omega would make a Seamaster in a 44mm I'd be all over that! I honestly don't think I could remove that watch. That would be

it. DONE.

that is such a gorgeous watch,......wear it in good health my friend.

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Nice Omega congrats!!!

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Just doesn't get much better than that! Charlie was right in guiding you in that direction.

Enjoy!

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Wow! Beautiful. I love that watch. That's big time right there. Congrats and enjoy

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suitekids July 10th, 2010 14:31

Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Just letting you all know this chap is as dishonest as it gets, read the thread and see the

part that says "I want to disclose everything"

Unfortunately for me, he lied. ALL THE SERIAL NUMBERS WERE GROUND OFF THE WATCH

CASE AND THE CASE WAS OPENED AND THE SERIAL NUMBERS WERE GROUND OFF THE MOVEMENT TOO. ITS A STOLEN WATCH FROM SOME POOR CHAP OR A BOGUS GRAY

MARKET AND THE PAPER WORK HE MENTIONS WERE SOME COPY MACHINE PAPERS

SAYING JOE BLOW WATCH REPAIR, NO NUMBERS NO DATES NO ADDRESS, NOTTA

NOTHING. He will not respond to pm's/e-mails. His name is Pete Conlon from Sanford, FL CAVEAT EMPTOR

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthr...=Omega+2598.80

Jeje3325 July 10th, 2010 15:35

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

bump

Man sorry to hear that ! Thanks for letting us know The post was looking good and clean. Maybe post pics of the damage?

newmedia July 10th, 2010 16:39

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

WOW, very shady and hope you can get your money back.<|

suitekids July 10th, 2010 18:09

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Here are the pics showing the ground off serial number on the inside of the lug, and the grinding of the matching movement number gone, rendering this watch as useless as the

seller.

notice the brassy color thats was where the serial number was

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/r...ndmarks004.jpg

Underside of lug where you can see the grind marks polished out http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/r...ndmarks002.jpg

Jeje3325 July 11th, 2010 00:31

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Did you pay with PP credit card?? If so I would contact Visa ASAP and try to cancel the

transaxtion. After all this looks like pure stolen goods! Much easier than dealing with paypal

watchking1 July 11th, 2010 05:23

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

How far is Sanford from Palm Springs, FL?

Take a drive up there and see what's what?

suitekids July 12th, 2010 12:58

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchking1 (Post 3158043)

How far is Sanford from Palm Springs, FL?

Take a drive up there and see what's what?

;-)

JayVeeez July 12th, 2010 17:33

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Makes you kind of wonder what some people might do for less than $2k. That is nuts, and I

hope it all gets worked out some how.

Jeep99dad July 12th, 2010 18:42

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Wow I almost bought a great white from him<| and actually the guy who bought it I think

posted he waas a great seller yesterday or the day before.:-s That is VERY disappinting to see this among our enthusiast community and looking at your

pics, there is no way he did not notice. I am curious about his side of the story now.

I am sorry you're having to deal with this! Make sure to report it with yuor credit card

company or Paypal.... I would probably be tempted to pay him a visit in person knowing myself if I Was in the

same state... though it is probably not the best/wisest course of action of course:-|

J.D.B. July 13th, 2010 01:52

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

I feel bad for you, man. Guy's a real piece-o-work, eh?

Maybe report this to law enforcement and the Postal inspector? (Selling stolen goods

through the mail?) Sucks.

Josh

voodootomato July 13th, 2010 01:53

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

1st let me say that im very sorry that you had those issues with your watch and hopefully

Kayfaber will step-up. Please keep us posted.

I felt compiled to comment on this tread since i was the one who left POS feedback on the

Omega Great White from Kayfaber. All of my serial numbers are intact and match all of

omega cards.

J'ean

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeep99dad (Post 3161668)

Wow I almost bought a great white from him<| and actually the guy who bought it I think

posted he waas a great seller yesterday or the day before.:-s

That is VERY disappinting to see this among our enthusiast community and looking at your

pics, there is no way he did not notice. I am curious about his side of the story now. I am sorry you're having to deal with this! Make sure to report it with yuor credit card

company or Paypal....

I would probably be tempted to pay him a visit in person knowing myself if I Was in the

same state... though it is probably not the best/wisest course of action of course:-|

OH Redhawk July 13th, 2010 01:55

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Chances are he didn't even know the S/N's were removed. Unlikely, but possible. I can't say that I pull bracelets and casebacks off within a couple weeks of receiving a used watch.

suitekids July 13th, 2010 14:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OH Redhawk (Post 3162625) Chances are he didn't even know the S/N's were removed. Unlikely, but possible. I can't

say that I pull bracelets and casebacks off within a couple weeks of receiving a used

watch.

Yes, that is a remote possibility, but I did contact him regarding this and said "do the right

thing and refund my money and I'll send the watch back and keep my mouth shut" He will

not respond!!! and he could have been vinticated by doing the right thing and chose not to. So here I am stating my case to the public, nothing more, and nothing less, He had to have

known by the bogus paper work, no cards, actual printed papers from Bogus watch works,

and no serial number on the lug, you don't have to pull the bracelet to see it, it's very very

small, but its there in plain view, when I looked after I recieved it and it wasn't there it promped me to open the case for further inspection, and it wasn't there either, hence the

pics.

Kayfaber July 15th, 2010 02:59

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

I've been out of town for several days, so I will respond now. This watch came in

on a trade from another WUS member about two months ago. My watch guy (a

second generation Omega dealer) took a look at the watch after I received it, the

watch was ok by his standards. I'm not aware of any numbers being removed from the watch. I included all the paperwork I got with the watch. This was an honest

deal with a remorseful buyer airing his sour grapes. I resent the statements that I

lied, for all I know this watch was "damaged" after it was received by the buyer or

these pics are of another watch entirely. I have never scammed a buyer at this forum or any other. I suggest the buyer seriously rethink any ideas about

appearing at my home or around my family as he will be met with unfavorable

results including handcuffs and a trip to the local jail. Due to the threatening tone

of the buyers PM I was advised not to respond.

Sorry you are unhappy, but everyone else with whom I have dealt has been

satisfied. Your defamation and threats prevent me from contacting you via PM.

I will post no more information regarding this matter.

Pete

suitekids July 15th, 2010 09:28

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Your reply, as pitiful as it is, has just confirmed you are a LIAR too, the three usually go

together. LIAR, CHEAT, THIEF. I saved all of our correspondence, I would be glad to post

them aswell, Sour grapes? You bet I do, you took almost 1300 of my money for a useless watch, under false pretenses. You know it. and I know it, and everyone I know will know it

too. I send you PM's regarding this and you refused to answer, I gave you the chance to

vinticate yourself and you refused, you kept the money and sold your integrity along with it.

All you need to do is return the money and get your watch back and call it a day.

2BATTRANGER July 16th, 2010 06:44

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

This is just plain WRONG!!! Dude, you sold the man a STOLEN watch!!! Man up and give him his money back!!! And it woundn't hurt to give the watch back to the rightful owner

too!!!:rodekaart <| :think:

suitekids July 18th, 2010 16:17

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BATTRANGER (Post 3171976)

This is just plain WRONG!!! Dude, you sold the man a STOLEN watch!!! Man up and give

him his money back!!! And it woundn't hurt to give the watch back to the rightful owner

too!!!:rodekaart <| :think:

Sums it up!!

Broker July 19th, 2010 17:07

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayfaber (Post 3168475)

I've been out of town for several days, so I will respond now. This watch came in on a

trade from another WUS member about two months ago. My watch guy (a second generation Omega dealer) took a look at the watch after I received it, the watch was ok by

his standards. I'm not aware of any numbers being removed from the watch. I included all

the paperwork I got with the watch. This was an honest deal with a remorseful buyer

airing his sour grapes. I resent the statements that I lied, for all I know this watch was

"damaged" after it was received by the buyer or these pics are of another watch entirely. I have never scammed a buyer at this forum or any other. I suggest the buyer seriously

rethink any ideas about appearing at my home or around my family as he will be met with

unfavorable results including handcuffs and a trip to the local jail. Due to the threatening

tone of the buyers PM I was advised not to respond.

Sorry you are unhappy, but everyone else with whom I have dealt has been satisfied. Your

defamation and threats prevent me from contacting you via PM.

I will post no more information regarding this matter.

Pete

I wouldn't post no more information regarding this matter either after I've screwed a guy

out of $1300 and blamed him for it. Stay classy my friend. And this is the funniest part yet:

Quote:

Your defamation and threats prevent me from contacting you via PM.

Not really. All you have to do is hit the button to send a message.

suitekids July 19th, 2010 22:37

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Due to the threatening tone of the buyers PM I was advised not to respond.

Well I guess he asked for it again: this is the threatening PM I sent him. seems rather

professional to me after getting screwed for 1300

quote to Kayfaber on July 6 2010 at 18:10

I'm a little dissapointed you didn't disclose every serial number there is on this watch has been ground off, the only way to authenticate is by the dial

and rotor everything else has been removed and repolished, why didn't

you mention this??? Nice looking watch but it's basicly worthless without

any verification numbers. What do we do now?? I think you can do the

right thing and refund my cash and I'll return the watch and I will keep my

mouth shut about this unfortunate transaction. You could have let me know this upfront. A very dissapointed buyer.

here it is 2 weeks after I wrote that "threatening PM" as he calls it, he still has not replied or

resolved this matter, classy guy huh?

Uber July 20th, 2010 15:52

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Funny how all the Photobucket pics of the watch have totally disappeared from the original

post eh? Especially considering that his Photobucket pics posted in way earlier threads are

still available... Suitekids....did you save all those pics on your HD? I have learned to take actual

screenprints of the thread when I buy now....

Psychedelic Ranger July 20th, 2010 20:43

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

kayfaber doesn't get it. o| His reputation is shot and he keeps opening his mouth. The only

thing to do is give a full refund and take his bogus watch back.

suitekids July 22nd, 2010 03:42

Re: Kayfaber Scammer & Dishonest

Here is an Update, this fellow is a moderator on another forum, and never posted the watch

forsale on his own forum, that's curious. All of the pics he deleted here are posted there,

bragging about this watch, except the pic that shows the serial numbers and thats out of

focus he is also here under another name aswell, It's Cannon from watchgeeks and he is a moderator there, Kayfaber & Cannon = same dude, beware peeps!!!