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Attain Capital’s Interview of Andrew Abraham Attain capital interviewed me regarding my trend following story. Attain Capital called the piece “Taking the path Untraveled”. You can see the original article by clicking here Taking a Path Untraveled OCTOBER 5, 2011 BY JOHN CUMMINGS, INVESTMENT RESEARCH MANAGER - ATTAINCAPITAL.COM LEAVE A COMMENT Most of the managers we work with are also managed futures investors- that’s not all that uncommon. But how often do you hear of an investor becoming a CTA? Such is the story of one Andrew Abraham, the manager of Abraham Investment Management (no- not the one you’re thinking of – that’s Abraham Trading Company). We were intrigued by the path that led him here, and asked him if he’d be willing to share his story. Turns out- it’s sort of a good one. The following is a personal account of an individual experience in managed futures. Everyone will have a unique experience, so this story may not represent what your own experience will be. While reading, please remember that futures trading presents a substantial risk of losses, and that past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. I sold discount clothing to put myself through college. The business was outlet stores before the times of Ross and Marshalls, and I did well with it. I sold the business in 1994. Suddenly, I had a large amount of capital at my disposal. I didn’t know what to do with that much money, so I addressed my accountantand lawyer. Two stories stuck out for me. The first person was described as “the most successful investor I’ve ever seen” by my accountant (a local dentist- imagine that). He had no idea how he did it, but he always seemed to be brining in steady returns, regardless of how stocks were doing. The second person was actually an IB (Introducing Broker) who was in my fraternity in college, and he suggested an alternative to stocks and bonds. Ironically, he’s still the broker I work with today. The strategy used by the dentist and ultimately advised by my broker was one called “trend following.” It wasn’t fancy or exceedingly complex- quite the contrary. The principles involved (even if not the actual mathematics) were very simple. Identify the trend. Capitalize on the breakout. Cut losses quickly. Just because the ideas were simple didn’t mean it was easy. I bumbled and stumbled with own trading, and was very lucky to have mentors along the way (a perk of working in this industry). I shied away from fundamental trading and complicated approaches, embracing the KISS (Keep

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Page 1: Attain Capital Interview of Andrew Abraham Trend Following

Attain Capital’s Interview of Andrew AbrahamAttain capital interviewed me regarding my trend following story. Attain Capital called the piece “Taking the path Untraveled”. You can see the original article by clicking here

Taking a Path Untraveled

OCTOBER 5, 2011 BY JOHN CUMMINGS, INVESTMENT RESEARCH MANAGER - ATTAINCAPITAL.COM LEAVE A COMMENTMost of the managers we work with are also managed futures investors- that’s not all that uncommon. But how often do you hear of an investor becoming a CTA?Such is the story of one Andrew Abraham, the manager of Abraham Investment Management (no- not the one you’re thinking of – that’s Abraham Trading Company). We were intrigued by the path that led him here, and asked him if he’d be willing to share his story. Turns out- it’s sort of a good one.The following is a personal account of an individual experience in managed futures. Everyone will have a unique experience, so this story may not represent what your own experience will be. While reading, please remember that futures trading presents a substantial risk of losses, and that past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.I sold discount clothing to put myself through college. The business was outlet stores before the times of Ross and Marshalls, and I did well with it. I sold the business in 1994. Suddenly, I had a large amount of capital at my disposal. I didn’t know what to do with that much money, so I addressed my accountantand lawyer. Two stories stuck out for me.The first person was described as “the most successful investor I’ve ever seen” by my accountant (a local dentist- imagine that). He had no idea how he did it, but he always seemed to be brining in steady returns, regardless of how stocks were doing.The second person was actually an IB (Introducing Broker) who was in my fraternity in college, and he suggested an alternative to stocks and bonds. Ironically, he’s still the broker I work with today.The strategy used by the dentist and ultimately advised by my broker was one called “trend following.” It wasn’t fancy or exceedingly complex- quite the contrary. The principles involved (even if not the actual mathematics) were very simple. Identify the trend. Capitalize on the breakout. Cut losses quickly.Just because the ideas were simple didn’t mean it was easy. I bumbled and stumbled with own trading, and was very lucky to have mentors along the way (a perk of working in this industry). I shied away from fundamental trading and complicated approaches, embracing the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) perspective. Though I made mistakes, each one was a learning experience that enabled me to add filters that would (theoretically) mitigate the severity of the drawdown.And there was certainly a lot to learn. Ideas like risk per trade were foreign to me. Sector diversification wasn’t even a consideration. Margin to equity- why did that matter? These were all things I learned the hard way. Sometimes you wake up and you get your head handed to you. It’s not pretty, but you can either learn from it or burn out.I’m proud of the programs I’ve developed. The strategies are basic robust trend following concepts with various levels of risk filters. I focus on maintaining very conservative margin to equity ratios, risking small dollar amounts per trade (instead of just focusing on percent risk per trade), and I still use many of the basic trend following concepts I was exposed to so long ago.

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Like many in the space, though, I am still an investor, and I’m not sure I’ll ever not invest in managed futures. I buy into drawdowns and I look for hungrymanagers- I want to be reminded of my own passion.Look, don’t get me wrong- there is no magic system, and drawdowns are going to happen. They are going to be painful and scary and worse than you thought. That’s the risk involved in futures trading. Most investors want to ask something like, how was your August? I had a nice August, but it doesn’t mean anything. I could have a bad September. That’s not the way to look at it. Trend following is a long-term perspective, and is liquid, transparent, and provides the possibility of compounding money over time. I’m a believer.Interested in distributing or reprinting this content? Check out our reprint policy here.DISCLAIMERForex trading, commodity trading, managed futures, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors.The entries on this blog are intended to further subscribers understanding, education, and – at times- enjoyment of the world of alternative investments through managed futures, trading systems, and managed forex. Unless distinctly noted otherwise, the data and graphs included herein are intended to be mere examples and exhibits of the topic discussed, are for educational and illustrative purposes only, and do not represent trading in actual accounts. Opinions expressed are that of the author.The mention of specific asset class performance (i.e. +3.2%, -4.6%) is based on the noted source index (i.e. Newedge CTA Index, S&P 500 Index, etc.), and investors should take care to understand that any index performance is for the constituents of that index only, and does not represent the entire universe of possible investments within that asset class. And further, that there can be limitations and biases to indices such as survivorship and self reporting biases, and instant history.The mention of general asset class performance (i.e. managed futures did well, stocks were down, bonds were up) is based on Attain’s direct experience in those asset classes, estimates of performance of dozens of CTAs followed by Attain, and averaging of various indices designed to track said asset classes.Managed Futures Disclaimer:Past Performance is Not Necessarily Indicative of Future Results. The regulations of the CFTC require that prospective clients of a managed futures program (CTA) receive a disclosure document when they are solicited to enter into an agreement whereby the CTA will direct or guide the client’s commodity interest trading and that certain risk factors be highlighted. The disclosure document contains a complete description of the principal risk factors and each fee to be charged to your account by the CTA.Copyright © 2011 Attain Capital Management, LLC. All rights reserved.ATTAIN CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, LLC.1 E. Wacker Dr., 30th Floor, Chicago, IL 60601            800.311.1145       (toll free) |             312.604.0926       (d) | 312.604.0927 (f)

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Trading futures and options involves substantial risk of loss no matter who is managing your money and is not suitable for all investors. Past performance is not indicative of future results