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You’ve seen it all over the drawings REF. SCHED.

Now create that Schedule

Steve Voorhees

KPFF Consulting Engineers

Who am I

• Steve Voorhees • steve.voorhees@kpff.com• Revit 2.0• 130+ Revit Projects• I am not an Engineer• I used to be an ATC• I started in this line of work designing Garbage Dumpsters• Then Contracted to Intel• Then KPFF for the past 17 years • For those on the Green side out there I am a organic practices

farmer too.

Stupid House Keeping Stuff

• Put your towels in the bathtub so room cleaners can realize they need to be picked up and washed

• Set your phone to blah blah blah

• Those asking questions and partaking in this class will possibly get some swag (while supplies last)

Quick Survey

• Who are you?• Where you from

– East coast– West coast– Midwest– A long ways away (includes Canada eh)

Objectives

• When is the best time to use a schedule and how much information you can have in it.

• Create and use Shared Parameters and custom Tags and apply them to your schedule

• Presenting your Scheduled information• What is TMDI?

When to use a schedule?

• Repetitive information• Like information with different sizes• Save room on plan views or details• Ease of editing multiple items

• Samples of these include but are not limited to• Drawing index• Footing Schedule• Graphical Column Schedule• And many more

Lets look at the Drawing Index

• Can be used as just names of sheets and sheet numbers• Can be used as a Drawing index and Issue Log

Issue Log

• Drawing index is easy and so is the Issue Log

• Create your grid log as a group• Have tried doing it as an auto family but

I'm just not able to.• Items included are

– Dates– Descriptions– Legend Key– Schedule Titles– Drafting lines

Now lets modify the Drawing Index

• Add a Parameter for each issuance you have of your drawings

• Once your Index is set up you can drag it onto your sheet and adjust the schedule and the group to each other.

Isolated Footing Schedule

• I have seen a lot of comments about the "T" on the web.– Default Thickness is not a scheduled parameter– One thought was to use area or volume to calc thickness– Problem arises when you merge footings– The best way to do this for us was to modify the family and make

the Thickness a Shared Parameter so it can be scheduled.

Modify Isolated Footing• Select an Isolated Footing and Edit

Family• Save as different Name not to

overwrite the original. – We use Company name –Family

name

• Once opened and saved choose Family Types

• Pick the Thickness Parameter and modify– Notice this is Family Parameter

not a Shared Parameter– Remove the Parameter Thickness

and create our own– Click Add– Choose Shared parameter– Select your shared parameter– If you don’t have a shared

parameter company file you can create one

– Notice there is not Thickness value because we have to assign it

• In the front view choose your thickness dimension and assign the label Thickness to it

• Check your Family Types and see the new Thickness value is added

• Now load it into your project• Lets now Create your footing

schedule

Creating the Footing Schedule• From View – Schedules –

Schedule / Quantities• Choose Structural Foundations• Add in all your fields you need

– Add Parameter for Reinforcing• Click OK and see what you get• Now you can set your schedule

to meet your needs and looks• From your Schedule Properties

– Setting no filters– Sort by Type Mark– Do not Itemize – Set your Formatting

• Heading names• Alignment

– Appearance • Remove Blank Row

• Now Group your cells and and make your schedule appearance look like you want and then drag it on the sheet

Graphical Column Schedule

• From the View Ribbon choose – Schedules– Graphical Column Schedule

• This will create a generic schedule from the default template looking something like this

• To adjust it and modify it to meet your needs go into properties of the Graphical Column Schedule and pick Edit for the Grid Appearance

• Grid Appearance will be set to the following:– Horizontal Widths

For Column Locations: 2”For Level Names: 1½”

– Vertical HeightsAbove Top Level: 1”Below Bottom Level: 3”Between Segments: 4”

• The Text Appearance tab in the same dialog box will be set with the following settings– Title Text: Arial 13/128” = (.1)

Level Text: Arial 13/128” = (.1)Column Location: Arial 13/128 = (.1)

• Pick ok to return to the Properties Dialog for more settings– View Scale = 1/8” = 1’-0”– Detail Level = Coarse– Visibility / Graphics Overrides = used for setting

filters or override graphics. Leave set to default unless needed to change for specific standards.

– Column Locations per Segment = number of columns to fit on your page sheet per schedule segment.

– Group Similar Locations = checked (this will group all like columns reducing the size of the schedule on large projects

– Grid Appearance was set prior to this step but can be modified to meet needs here.

– Include Off-Grid Columns = checked (this will provide dimensions to the nearest grids)

– Off-Grid Units Format = Default (this goes to project settings

– Text Appearance was set prior to this step but can be modified to meet needs here.

• Pick ok to return to the Properties Dialog for more settings– View Name = CONCRETE COLUMN SCHEDULE– Title on Sheet = what you are going to call it on

the drawing sheet– Default View Template = None– Phase = New Construction– Hidden Levels = ability to hide levels you do not

want to show in your schedule.– Top Level = The top level you want your schedule

to report to– Column Locations Start = Blank– Column Locations End = Blank– Material Types = Defaults

Defaults are set up

• Now lets add text and tags

• Standard text• Concrete Column Sched

Tag• Vert Rebar Tag1• Vert Rebar Tag2• Vert Rebar Splice Tag

Custom Tags

• Pick an existing structural tag and edit family

• Save the family as • Create the Labels you will need in your

family• Once all your Tags are created you can tag

your columns and place the tag where needed.

Tag info not showing up?

• We need the tag info to be a shared parameter and we need to associate it to an object.

• To do this we create a Shared Parameter. – I created its own group under our

company shared parameter file.• Now lets associate it to the column

– Manage Tab– Project Parameters– Pick the Add button

• In the Parameter Properties dialog – Choose Shared parameter– Select your Parameter

• Back in the Parameter Properties dialog – Set Group to text– Choose the category of

Structural Columns– OK– Then OK in Project Parameters

• Now we see it and it is editable and able to be scheduled

• Do this for your the remaining parameters

Column Schedule

• Now that the graphical schedule is completed you need to create a column schedule for fast editing of the schedule

• Choose the option for Structural Column Schedule• Add the following fields in the order shown:

– Type– Mark– Ties Region 1– Ties Region 2– f’c psi– Column Location Mark– Top Level– Vert Reinf 1– Vert Reinf 2

• Under the tab Sorting/Grouping make sure the Itemize every instance option is checked. This will allow each column to be listed for editing.

The Column Schedule• Now you have a column schedule that can be edited in

groupings of likes, sizes, or grid locations.

After editing the Graphical Column Schedules information, make sure to double check the schedule to make sure the graphics are all in the right place and it all looks good.

Using Material Takeoffs to your advantage• We have used material takeoffs to help verify steel orders and

on GMP sets• These are very easy to use and calculate weights and even

separate out by floor if needed• For a simple example lets look at a steel beam schedule

• The Wt and Wt2 fields are done with Calculated Value formulas based on the Scheduled fields we have chosen

• The normal Steel Take off is seen here. We group our likes to reduce the amount of items shown. Again we use a calculated value to determine the Weight in tons.

Questions?

Steve Voorhees KPFF Consulting Engineers

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