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IRTF&ISOCWorkshopon

ResearchandApplicationsofInternetMeasurements(RAIM)

inCooperationwithACMSIGCOMM

Yokohama,JapanOctober31,2015

LarsEggert (lars@netapp.com)

Genesis

• EClookingforopportunitiestobringSIGclosertoindustry• DesirebytheIETF/IRTFtoincreaseresearcherparticipation• CollocatedTokyo/Yokohamameetingsprovideduniqueopportunity• Decidedtopickafew“hot”topicsbasedoncommunityinterest• Asexpressedbypapersubmissions

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Organizers

• MarkAllman,ICIR• Kenjiro Cho,IIJ• LarsEggert,NetApp• MatFord,InternetSociety• Ratul Mahajan,MicrosoftResearch• Renata Teixeira,INRIA• BrianTrammell,ETHZ• DarrylVeitch,UTS

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Desiredoutcomes

• Exchangeinformation• Introducecommunities• Fostercollaboration

• Provideinteractivediscussiontime

Internetmeasurements

SystemsengineeringStandardsIncreasethisoverlap!

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Whystandards?Andnotcode?

http://ietfmemes.tumblr.com/

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Whyshouldyou careaboutstandards?

• Ifyou’reresearchingInternet-relatedtopics,wheredoyoulearnwhatthereal currentissuesare?• Hint:wirelessATMisnotoneofthem

• Youneedtotalktooperators,vendors,registrars,policymakers,regulators…• Assumingyouareinterestedinresearchthatcouldhaveanactualimpact

• Whereisiteasy tomeetthesefolks?• Standardsbodies,operatormeetings,industryforums

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Butdon’tforgettothink

• Youwilltalktomanyfolkswhoaren’tresearchers• Theirmotivationsaredifferent• Oftenveryshort-termagendas• Fewcanabstractouttoprinciples• Worriedaboutsymptoms,notcauses• Ifallyouhaveisahammer,everythingstartstolooklikeanail• Manyaretheretomakemoney(orkeepothersfromtakingtheirs)

• Thinkhardaboutthe“problems”youlearnabout

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Still…gomingle!

• Ifyou’reinterestedinlearningaboutsomeoftherealproblems• Ifyou’reinterestedinfixingsomeofthem,you’llneedtoparticipatemoreregularly• ForInternetand“future”Internetstuff:participateintheIETF• Papersdon’tgetdeployed• Unlessyou’reahyperscalar publishingyouroldstuffforpublicity

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Code isnot(always)theanswer

• Codecomesunderalicense• Licenseincompatibilities:Imaynotbeabletouseyourcode• Readinglicensedcodetointeroperateisbad:maystilltaintmycode

• (Some)IETFstandardscomewithIPRdisclosures• Diseasewithdifferentsymptoms,butindustryisusedtothis

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Participationtakestime

• Standardizationisverydifferentfrom“fire&forget”academicvenues• Thetimecommitmentissubstantial,bothintermsofemaildiscussionandmeetingtravel• Thereareprocesses,andtheyare“interesting”• Youwillneedtoconvince adiversesetofstakeholders• Theoreticallyoptimal≠practicallyoptimal• Businessaspects&deploymentincentivesarecritical

• Don’tforgetaboutresearcharms(e.g.,theIRTF)

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Needadditional motivation?

• Ifyou’reonanacademiccareerpath,standardizationisunlikelytogetyoutenure• Butitdoesn’toftenhurtyoueither

• Youwillmeetlikemindedpeopletocollaboratewith• Andsomeofthemhavesubstantialbudgets…

• Ifyou’regoingforanindustrycareerpath,gettingpositivelynoticedintheseforumscanbegood

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Yourreceptionmayvary

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Logistics

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Workshopstructure

• Keynoteson(subjective)state-of-the-artandhighlighthardissues• Lightningtalks tointroduceparticipants,theirwork&viewpoints• Lotsofdiscussiontime

• Collaborativeminuting (tobeturnedintoaworkshopreport)http://tid.isoc.org:9001/p/raim-2015

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Agenda

Time Len Session9:00 15 Welcome&logistics

Measurementplatforms&tools9:15 45 Sessionkeynote10:00 120 Lightningtalks12:00 90 Lunchbreak

Measurementoffixed&mobilebroadbandaccessnetworks13:30 45 Sessionkeynote14:15 90 Lightningtalks15:45 30 Break

Internetcharacterizationthroughmeasurements16:15 45 Sessionkeynote17:00 90 Lightningtalks18:30 End

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Keynoteetiquette

• Makethisinteractive• Usethemicrophones(wearebeinglive-streamed&recorded)• Bepreparedtopostponelongerdiscussionsuntilendofkeynote

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Lightningtalketiquette

• Everyonegetsthreeminutesmax,noexceptions• Noquestions,holduntilend(takenotes)

• Everyonestartsclappingafterexactlythreeminutes• Speakerstopspromptly• Speakerfast-forwardstofirstslideofnextspeaker• Nextspeakercontinues

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Logistics

• Wearebeinglivestreamed&recorded(thankyou,Meetecho)• http://www.meetecho.com/ietf94/raim/

• Therefore,pleaseusethemicrophones

• Lunchwillbeoutside• Letthevegetariansgetfirstdibsatvegetariandishes

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Questions?

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